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"2022 NFL Coach/GM Carousel "


          

It begins. Fangs prolly sealed his fate, yesterday.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1480197302295973891?s=20

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i like what I've seen out of the Broncos this year
Jan 09th 2022
1
didn't yall cape for this guy? yikes
Jan 09th 2022
2
I wonder where he'll pop up
Jan 09th 2022
7
It was high time they turned the play calling over...
Jan 09th 2022
9
Itll be interesting 2 see who they get, does Elway still call the shots?
Jan 09th 2022
3
Steelers GM stepping down after 2022 draft
Jan 09th 2022
4
The Denver firing makes no sense.. Teddy Bridgewater?
Jan 09th 2022
5
Elway gave up GM duties in 2020
Jan 09th 2022
6
That just makes the firing worse
Jan 09th 2022
10
      haven’t watched them much this year but yesterday they looked well coa...
Jan 09th 2022
12
Bridgewater was good when he was healthy
Jan 09th 2022
14
      he's a stop gap and his arm is shot
Jan 10th 2022
22
Rumor is David Culley is going to be out
Jan 09th 2022
8
what a terrible organization
Jan 09th 2022
11
I feel like he was a placeholder anyway
Jan 09th 2022
13
right, once Houston knew they couldn’t play freaky Jason…
Jan 09th 2022
15
Placeholder for what though?
Jan 09th 2022
16
      The org was already in flux then the Deshaun thing really threw them…
Jan 09th 2022
18
      Did they think hiring a Black QB would make DeShaun happy?
Jan 09th 2022
19
It was a strange hire but I think he has done fairly well
Jan 09th 2022
17
Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals
Jan 10th 2022
21
      RE: Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals
Jan 10th 2022
79
Wrong post
Jan 09th 2022
20
Schefty reporting Nagy gone
Jan 10th 2022
23
…and Ryan Pace
Jan 10th 2022
26
Schefty reporting Zimmer and Spielman out
Jan 10th 2022
24
Thank God!
Jan 10th 2022
31
Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores
Jan 10th 2022
25
WTF!! Can the chargers fire Staley and hire Flores?
Jan 10th 2022
27
This is dumb
Jan 10th 2022
28
What??? WHY???
Jan 10th 2022
29
Zimmer gone
Jan 10th 2022
32
      yeah, saw that above after I saw the Flores post
Jan 10th 2022
39
...and the Iggles are getting their 1st round pick...
Jan 10th 2022
30
Eagles got the 15 and 16 picks plus their TBD pick
Jan 10th 2022
33
      The Wentz trade was the biggest cap hit in NFL history
Jan 10th 2022
35
           Huge gamble but it worked out to perfection
Jan 10th 2022
36
                there was a bunch of pick swaps in the last draft
Jan 10th 2022
45
WHAT.......THE..........FUCK
Jan 10th 2022
34
RE: Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores
Jan 10th 2022
41
I could see him end up as the DC for a middling squad
Jan 10th 2022
42
you all can stop being fake shocked about how this shit works lol
Jan 10th 2022
44
there's a post right today nitpicking Tomlin's career
Jan 10th 2022
63
I would fire Carroll and Hire Flores so fast if Russ were staying
Jan 10th 2022
46
All season they have expected playoffs
Jan 10th 2022
61
      that's an imaginary excuse
Jan 10th 2022
81
5 confirmed opening now
Jan 10th 2022
37
RE: Las Vegas
Jan 10th 2022
47
Left off Denver
Jan 10th 2022
49
      Thanks, I knew I was forgetting someone
Jan 10th 2022
55
smh.. these teams never learn. They lack patience with these Black coach...
Jan 10th 2022
38
It seems Miami picked Grier and Tua over Flores
Jan 10th 2022
43
      yeah Flores was never a Tua guy...
Jan 10th 2022
53
      Tua ain't good enough to save any franchise
Jan 10th 2022
82
           I know that, Flores knows that but Grier and Ross may not know that
Jan 10th 2022
90
reading *speculation* about Miami…
Jan 10th 2022
40
According to Ross today, he's not going after Harbaugh...
Jan 10th 2022
58
      That “I’m not going to be the one…
Jan 10th 2022
60
           He's the biggest donor the Michigan athletic department has...
Jan 10th 2022
62
                Yeah, I read that line as Harbaugh might leave Michigan but
Jan 10th 2022
69
                     Exactly...here's the full quote for context...
Jan 10th 2022
70
                          What if he went after Ryan Day in the ultimate villain move lol
Jan 11th 2022
98
Flores would fit nice with the Chicago Bears
Jan 10th 2022
48
is Frank Reich still living off Nick Foles' hot run 3 or 4 years ago?
Jan 10th 2022
50
He made the mistake of thinking Wentz could be good.
Jan 10th 2022
52
Yeah, the colts would have been better off if Rivers came back
Jan 10th 2022
54
      they called Rivers when Wentz had covid
Jan 10th 2022
64
           Lmao. The first heir in line for the Rivers throne.
Jan 10th 2022
74
he will start on a warm seat in 2022
Jan 10th 2022
59
IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking
Jan 10th 2022
77
      RE: IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking
Jan 10th 2022
78
      Wentz choked...you disagree?
Jan 10th 2022
85
      Reich clearly put his coaching career on the line for Wentz
Jan 10th 2022
80
           He did course correct from last year
Jan 10th 2022
86
Dolphins statement
Jan 10th 2022
51
They tried to call him incompetent in a fancy way
Jan 10th 2022
56
      You see it. The fucking Dolphins’ standards…smh
Jan 10th 2022
57
Gettleman retires…
Jan 10th 2022
65
retire? lmao.
Jan 10th 2022
71
one of the worst GM runs in history
Jan 10th 2022
83
Early rumor Lane Kiffin to Vikings...WTF???
Jan 10th 2022
66
Lol…just heard that same thing
Jan 10th 2022
67
oh please no
Jan 10th 2022
68
Bears hire Bill Polian to help with the coaching search
Jan 10th 2022
72
truly amazing.
Jan 10th 2022
73
to be old and white.. lmao
Jan 10th 2022
76
Hilarious
Jan 10th 2022
89
Wow
Jan 11th 2022
95
the guy best known for going to 4 straight superbowls & losing them all
Jan 11th 2022
100
Firing Ryan Pace was stupid.
Jan 10th 2022
75
what a squad. only a half dozen All-Pros away from going to the playoffs
Jan 10th 2022
84
Did he draft Trubisky?
Jan 10th 2022
88
Pace needed to go too.....
Jan 11th 2022
92
Trubisky was the number 1 QB prospect on the board
Jan 11th 2022
93
      Everyone worth a damn at the time knew it was doomed and a bad pick.....
Jan 11th 2022
94
      Revisionism.
Jan 11th 2022
97
           Once you bring in the Jets as your defense.....
Jan 11th 2022
101
           Teams above the jets did not need a QB, and everyone after
Jan 11th 2022
105
           lmao.. gotdamn
Jan 11th 2022
106
           nah.. that was the ole big white QB with all the measurables list
Jan 11th 2022
102
                ^^ This is revisionism bullshit.
Jan 11th 2022
108
                     You keep bringing up one year like its his whole career
Jan 11th 2022
109
                     Who was shocked?
Jan 11th 2022
111
                          You just signed Glennon for 3/45
Jan 11th 2022
118
                               ^^^^LIES
Jan 12th 2022
127
                                    Those teams were drafting in the 20's when they traded up.....
Jan 12th 2022
133
                                    They moved up to 10 and 12
Jan 12th 2022
135
                     Nagy runs the same system as Andy!!!
Jan 11th 2022
110
                          You putting Nagy on the same level as Andy Reid?
Jan 11th 2022
113
                               lmao at claiming a few bad teams were lining up to draft Trubisky
Jan 11th 2022
116
                               I believe the Jets would have done that shit.....
Jan 11th 2022
117
                                    RE: I believe the Jets would have done that shit.....
Jan 11th 2022
119
                                         Jets probably would’ve because they suck at drafting QB’s too
Jan 11th 2022
122
                                              Those comps are all good players....
Jan 11th 2022
125
                                                   ^^^This is all cow shit and after the fact.
Jan 12th 2022
126
                                                   Personally, it was racism when it came to Watson’s assessment
Jan 12th 2022
129
                                                   49ers finessed the hell out of the Chicago GM
Jan 12th 2022
128
      the internet disagrees with you
Jan 11th 2022
96
           Sports illustrated writers’ opinion? SMH
Jan 11th 2022
99
           No GM should be looking at an online scouting list for guidance
Jan 11th 2022
104
RE: Firing Ryan Pace was stupid.
Jan 14th 2022
157
Chargers need to fire Tom Telesco
Jan 10th 2022
87
Flores meeting with the Bears about head coaching job (swipe)
Jan 11th 2022
91
I don’t want this guy.
Jan 11th 2022
115
      He was given an often injured undersized QB he didn't even want.
Jan 11th 2022
120
still waiting for the Joe Judge is fired headline
Jan 11th 2022
103
would think NY would want a crack at Flores
Jan 11th 2022
107
He gone
Jan 11th 2022
112
Joe Judge got a dozen emails, today, telling him he was fired
Jan 11th 2022
114
Owners were saying just how much they'd enjoy it
Jan 11th 2022
121
      Did I miss something? Is this real?
Jan 11th 2022
123
           Lol, nah, we were clowning his dumb ass rant…
Jan 11th 2022
124
Jay Gruden and Bill O'Brien, WTF??!! LANK
Jan 12th 2022
130
the Panthers have been doing some head scratching shit for a while now
Jan 12th 2022
131
      Panthers are a shit show in the making
Jan 12th 2022
132
      its like they're being reactionary trying to overcorrect their previous....
Jan 12th 2022
136
      lemme chill, that was a rumor
Jan 12th 2022
134
           Jimmy Haslam was a minority owner for the Steelers too....
Jan 12th 2022
137
           yup.. one would think they would learn but I think its just a way
Jan 12th 2022
139
           Panthers GM Scott Fitterer came up in the Seattle organization...
Jan 12th 2022
138
                Fitterer didn't hire Rhule...Hurney did
Jan 16th 2022
158
My picks
Jan 13th 2022
140
I can't see Jay Gruden getting a HC job right now...
Jan 13th 2022
141
I could see Nagy being the KC OC if Bieniemy gets a HC job
Jan 13th 2022
142
Man, don't do the Vikings like that
Jan 13th 2022
143
Houston Texans fire head coach David Culley after one season(link)
Jan 13th 2022
144
David Culley out, in Houston. Man never had a chance.
Jan 13th 2022
145
This one might be more fucked up than Flores
Jan 13th 2022
147
Nah. He was obviously a stop-gap coach for the Watson situation
Jan 13th 2022
154
      I get he was a stop gap but the Watson situation hasn’t been resolved
Jan 14th 2022
155
It was a fall guy gig to begin with
Jan 13th 2022
148
right I don't know why people are pretending to be shocked lol
Jan 13th 2022
149
No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much better
Jan 13th 2022
150
      RE: No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much bet...
Jan 13th 2022
152
Culley was hired in January…
Jan 13th 2022
151
I think he knew the deal and was good with it
Jan 14th 2022
156
David Culley fired.....
Jan 13th 2022
146
RE: David Culley fired.....
Jan 13th 2022
153
I'm I the only one not impressed by Kellen Moore?
Jan 17th 2022
159
McCarthy gets blamed for all the bad play calls
Jan 17th 2022
160
He’s going to fail and it will be glorious
Jan 17th 2022
161
I’m way more anxious about Quinn possibly leaving than I am Moore
Jan 17th 2022
162
He is Jason Garrett 2.0, just younger
Jan 17th 2022
163
And a punchable face!
Jan 17th 2022
164
I'm still trying to figure out how he became a thing.
Jan 17th 2022
166
Mike Mayock out, per Ian Rappaport
Jan 17th 2022
165
i wanted to give him another year. looks like they're cleaning house tho...
Jan 17th 2022
167
      wasn’t he basically a Gruden shill?
Jan 17th 2022
168
           wouldn't go that far but he admitted Gruden had final say
Jan 17th 2022
169
Sauces: Flores and Watson want to be a package deal
Jan 23rd 2022
170
I can't see that being true, neither of them have that kind of leverage....
Jan 25th 2022
173
Breaking: Sean Peyton retiring
Jan 25th 2022
171
Tayson Hill wept
Jan 25th 2022
172
will Jerrah try to cut a deal?
Jan 25th 2022
174
      Not this season…
Jan 26th 2022
182
Leftwich to jags
Jan 25th 2022
175
I think that may be partly why Brady is thinking about hanging it up...
Jan 25th 2022
176
Possibly. Bigger reason is he's obviously got nothing left to prove
Jan 25th 2022
177
well that too...
Jan 25th 2022
178
Yeah. This and delaying the final epsiode of Man In The Arena
Jan 26th 2022
179
Congrats Lefty!!!
Jan 26th 2022
180
Bucs should have found a way to keep Leftwich and hand it off to him
Jan 26th 2022
181
I'm sure conversations were had, apparently BA isn't ready to walk away....
Jan 26th 2022
183
Been saying that all year.
Jan 27th 2022
189
Jags really found a way to fuck this up.
Jan 27th 2022
188
Bears hire former Chiefs personnel exec, Ryan Poles as GM…
Jan 27th 2022
184
Vikings hire former Browns analytics man Kwesi Adofo-Mensah…
Jan 27th 2022
185
I like this
Jan 27th 2022
191
Broncos to hire Packers offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett
Jan 27th 2022
186
Broncos hire Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett as new head coach…
Jan 27th 2022
187
does AR follow?
Jan 27th 2022
194
      Denver - Home of the *I Couldn't Be Brady* Farewell Tour QBs
Jan 27th 2022
196
           damn
Jan 27th 2022
199
Leftwich wants the disaster GM gone. Jags doing Jags shit.
Jan 27th 2022
190
typical
Jan 27th 2022
192
What has Sean Payton done that Mike McCarthy hasn't?
Jan 27th 2022
193
been suspended.
Jan 27th 2022
195
RE: What has Sean Payton done that Mike McCarthy hasn't?
Jan 27th 2022
197
      Yeah. He still somehow almost got that team into the playoffs.
Jan 27th 2022
198
      Louis Riddick just said this morning…
Jan 27th 2022
204
      McCarthy-1 SB in 12 yrs w/ HOF QB, Payton-1 SB in 15yrs w/ HOF QB
Jan 27th 2022
202
Bears hiring Colts DC Matt Eberflus as Head Coach
Jan 27th 2022
200
I really thought they'd go with Flores.
Jan 27th 2022
201
y'all think the NFL is the NBA?maybe 1 of these jobs goes to a blk coach
Jan 27th 2022
203
      didn’t they fire Lovie for a Canadian Football coach?
Jan 27th 2022
205
           Marc Trestman.....
Jan 27th 2022
206
Colts: QB mess ... Eberflus: Defensive guy... Fields: wait, what?
Jan 27th 2022
207
I liked Matt from his time at Mizzou…
Jan 27th 2022
208
Lets see who his OC is.....
Jan 27th 2022
211
yeah
Jan 27th 2022
218
Spare me the QB guru stuff
Jan 28th 2022
221
Hiring Green Bay QB coach, Luke Getsy as OC….
Jan 30th 2022
234
Jags really about to blow this: Saints request Leftwich interview (swipe...
Jan 27th 2022
209
LMAO
Jan 27th 2022
210
The ENTIRE city hates Baalke. I cannot believe this.
Jan 27th 2022
212
Jaggin off
Jan 27th 2022
213
Wilson in......Baalke OUT! Leftwich incoming....
Jan 27th 2022
214
damn!
Jan 27th 2022
215
Excellent. I really didn't want to see Leftwich on Saints.
Jan 27th 2022
216
I'm hearing now that its not a done deal
Jan 27th 2022
217
It's been three days now since Leftwich was reported
Jan 28th 2022
219
Giants set to hire Brian Daboll…per Jay Glazer
Jan 28th 2022
220
These dudes really hate Eric Bieniemy
Jan 28th 2022
222
Unfortunately I feel like they have moved on from for whatever reason
Jan 28th 2022
224
Ken Dorsey being either Giants or Bills new o coordinator is interesting
Jan 28th 2022
223
kellen moore will prolly get an hc job before eric bieniemy.
Jan 29th 2022
225
RE: kellen moore will prolly get an hc job before eric bieniemy.
Jan 29th 2022
232
Can someone more intelligent than myself, explain Kellen Moore to me?
Jan 29th 2022
226
WHITE?
Jan 29th 2022
227
Survey says: Correct
Jan 29th 2022
228
He checks all the WHITE boxes
Jan 29th 2022
233
Wow...Boise State Kellen Moore? Lol that was *fast*
Jan 29th 2022
229
      And Harbaugh actually had success as an NFL player.
Jan 29th 2022
230
           Jerry is having Moore follow the Jason Garrett plan
Jan 29th 2022
231
                Garrett played ok on Thanksgiving once!!
Feb 03rd 2022
283
Raiders hitting Patriots for their Personnel guy and OC…
Jan 30th 2022
235
Wow didn’t necessarily see that coming
Jan 30th 2022
236
Awful hire.
Jan 31st 2022
237
this brian flores lawsuit against the nfl and ny giants...
Feb 01st 2022
238
Fucking crazy. This cant end well for them
Feb 01st 2022
239
This is a terrible look for the league but not enough to prove racism......
Feb 01st 2022
240
Bill said new phone, who dis?
Feb 01st 2022
241
absolutely hilarious on Belichick's part
Feb 01st 2022
242
harbaugh to become vikings hc.
Feb 01st 2022
243
vikings tweeted this after the harbaugh news announced lol.
Feb 01st 2022
244
he's staying put, I wonder if the Bears and Raiders offered
Feb 02nd 2022
245
Told Michigan he’s coming back…
Feb 02nd 2022
246
Another young unproven white man gets HC position.
Feb 02nd 2022
248
      you know zac taylor was a young unproven white man right
Feb 02nd 2022
251
           Taylor struck gold with Joe Burrow. 2-14 the year before that.
Feb 02nd 2022
252
                TALK ABOUT IT….
Feb 02nd 2022
254
                and this is part of the problem. Once they get the new QB up to speed
Feb 03rd 2022
278
                     That shit is INFURIATING
Feb 03rd 2022
284
Vikings set to hire Rams OC, Kevin O’Connell
Feb 02nd 2022
247
Byron Leftwich and Eric Bieniemy deserve better.
Feb 02nd 2022
249
What is going on with Leftwich and the Jags?
Feb 02nd 2022
253
Not a fan of this move
Feb 03rd 2022
287
      just curious...
Feb 03rd 2022
290
           RE: just curious...
Feb 04th 2022
318
A college coach turns down an NFL team? LOL noted nm
Feb 02nd 2022
250
Because Harbaugh’s situation was clearly the same as Tomlin’s
Feb 03rd 2022
255
      hit dogs will holler.
Feb 03rd 2022
257
           did he choose to return or did the vikings pass?
Feb 03rd 2022
258
           Minnesota would have taken him ,
Feb 03rd 2022
259
           yes, and unknown
Feb 03rd 2022
260
           reporting today is Harbaugh flew to Minny…
Feb 03rd 2022
267
                letting facts get in the way of an agenda..
Feb 03rd 2022
269
                that would seem more likely
Feb 03rd 2022
289
           It’s sad that you won’t let this silly point die when everyone else...
Feb 03rd 2022
264
                Reports said they never offered him the gig
Feb 03rd 2022
268
                Minnesota just saving face, you don’t know Harbaughs real plans
Feb 03rd 2022
270
                     I don’t actually have a position in this argument…
Feb 03rd 2022
271
                     Lol…nice edit
Feb 03rd 2022
272
                     LOL
Feb 03rd 2022
273
                     RE: LOL
Feb 03rd 2022
302
                          For fucks sakes can y’all quit it with this?
Feb 04th 2022
307
                     what did he say? lol
Feb 03rd 2022
274
                          Can’t possibly be worse than his latest reply
Feb 03rd 2022
300
                     RE: Minnesota just saving face, you don’t know Harbaughs real plans
Feb 03rd 2022
275
                     YOU DONT KNOW HARBAUGH’S REAL PLANS!!!!
Feb 03rd 2022
277
                          lol
Feb 03rd 2022
280
                          LMAO
Feb 03rd 2022
304
                     Hey Siri, play It Takes 2 by Rob Base
Feb 03rd 2022
276
They are talking about Josh “the traveling QB salesman” McCown as
Feb 03rd 2022
256
I thought every team that started him was throwing games
Feb 03rd 2022
262
But if they do cool that means they can give Deion a HC job
Feb 03rd 2022
263
This will be the second year in a row they Houston…
Feb 03rd 2022
265
      Culley better get in on Brian Flores’ class action suit
Feb 03rd 2022
281
           It's going to be older coaches
Feb 03rd 2022
282
                Ray Rhodes?
Feb 03rd 2022
285
                     Wow, that’s a name I haven’t heard or thought I about in a while
Feb 03rd 2022
293
Courtney Cronin saying Harbaugh came through, yesterday…
Feb 03rd 2022
261
Broncos hire Packers QB coach as OC….it’s all coming together
Feb 03rd 2022
266
Think Elway was sober for this meeting?
Feb 03rd 2022
279
NFL Network reporting JAX close to bringing in former Vikes GM...
Feb 03rd 2022
286
Jags gonna Jag......lmfao
Feb 03rd 2022
291
prevailing thought was that Larry Foote would go to Jax w Leftwich
Feb 03rd 2022
294
damn Vrabel got some comp in our division as a coach now
Feb 03rd 2022
292
Pedersen done
Feb 03rd 2022
298
Rams OC Kevin O'Connell in line for the Vikes job, young white bols...
Feb 03rd 2022
288
These owners talking reckless like there's not a lawsuit
Feb 03rd 2022
295
Still can’t believe a buncha billionaires allowed a Pak mf into their ...
Feb 03rd 2022
296
Has this ever played well here lmao
Feb 03rd 2022
303
HEY CYREN, LOOK AMRITSAR WANTS YOUR ATTENTION
Feb 04th 2022
305
      Nothing about this interaction was cool...
Feb 04th 2022
316
a Pak mf??
Feb 04th 2022
306
      Pak is not a slur , there was even a Pak airlines
Feb 04th 2022
308
           Pak mf def sounds like a slur when discussing racism
Feb 04th 2022
310
                To someone unfamiliar with South Asian terminology, yea probably.
Feb 04th 2022
313
                     gotcha
Feb 04th 2022
314
                     now, imagine how this reads when you try to tell Black men
Feb 04th 2022
317
                          You right , that’s fair nm
Feb 04th 2022
319
                               daps
Feb 04th 2022
320
                                    I appreciate this exchange.
Feb 04th 2022
321
Doug Pedersen to the Jags
Feb 03rd 2022
297
We get that Reich Vs Pederson matchup no one asked for lol
Feb 03rd 2022
299
NFL is really about to only have one black head coach. *smh*
Feb 03rd 2022
301
      RE: NFL is really about to only have one black head coach. *smh*
Feb 04th 2022
309
           its racism and just terrible ownership by some of these franchises
Feb 04th 2022
311
           RE: its racism and just terrible ownership by some of these franchises
Feb 05th 2022
322
           yeah a backroom mandate is the only way it'll work
Feb 04th 2022
312
           players have way more power in the NBA
Feb 04th 2022
315
                thats why non-guaranteed contracts will never change
Feb 05th 2022
323
           all. of. this. nm
Feb 13th 2022
404
Saints to interview Bienemy
Feb 06th 2022
324
Dolphins hiring Niners OC Mike McDaniel as HC
Feb 06th 2022
325
So the *doesnt call plays* excuse has to be dead, right??
Feb 06th 2022
326
these young white dudes eating lol, I guess everybody is trying to get.....
Feb 06th 2022
328
Apparently, dude refers to himself as multiracial…
Feb 06th 2022
329
so they hired Logic
Feb 06th 2022
333
he's claiming 1 drop rule?
Feb 07th 2022
337
I have to see a family photo
Feb 07th 2022
343
what would the police think he was if they pulled him over?
Feb 07th 2022
345
      RE: what would the police think he was if they pulled him over?
Feb 07th 2022
348
He's considered a "running game guru"
Feb 07th 2022
344
      he's another branch off the Mike Shanahan tree
Feb 07th 2022
346
           yeah, Shanahans have been making low-round RBs productive for decades
Feb 07th 2022
347
49ers now have 9 draft picks ..so far
Feb 07th 2022
338
Colts hire Gus Bradley as DC
Feb 06th 2022
327
Texans in talks with Lovie Smith for HC position…
Feb 06th 2022
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I didn’t even realize he was DC there last year
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Bro, I fuck with Lovie…
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      did *they* know he was there? why is he just getting considered now?
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           This reeks of *hire the black guy for one season*
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           RE: did *they* know he was there? why is he just getting considered now...
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           My humble opinion is…
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                is McCown actually a thing?
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                     For Houston, yes…
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                          cool if he gets a job it paves the way for Deion
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Hiring Lovie…only the Saints remain
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      Hopefully they give Bienemy a shot even though things are up in the…
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                I don't disagree with anything you said...
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Saints going with DC Dennis Allen
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I had forgotten he was HC of the Raiders 8-28 record
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      He was a terrible head coach
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           a black coach with that record would never get another HC job
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           Kiffin's NFL record is 5 -15
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           thisety this. nm
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           He was absolute dogshit as the Raiders HC
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                Must be nice to be a white coach in the NFL and know records don’t mat...
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Kyler Murray unfollows and deletes all Cardinals content (swipe)
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seems like contract posturing
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players are so weird these days in this social media era lol
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I forget some of these players are still basically kids. Ha
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social media really is the weapon of choice for most of these dudes
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Probably a marketing rollout. I wouldn’t put much into it for now
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radio was wondering what the Lamb photo meant
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Kyler mad at the team, feels like he's been made into...
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      suspect
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who are the young black offensive gurus? I know we have former players.....
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Feels like an okey doke
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well you have to see how people end up in those jobs
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Daboll, Sirriani, Stefanski & Arthur Smith weren't QBs, Hackett was...
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There will always be excuses
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Brian Johnson, Eagles QB Coach (34 years old)
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      Thanks I didn’t know about Johnson or Curry, good for him
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Incognegro!! Incognegro!!
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i cant see him leading grown men.
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Didn’t he almost get kicked out of the league as a player?
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anyone who doesn’t see color is on that bullshit
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I noticed they switched from saying black coaches to “minority”…
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It’s like those morons who complain “whites are now the minority!”...
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nothing worse than a white man acting like a victim of racism
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also a lot of hispanics are white.
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They did this at one of my former employers before
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they'll switch back when the numbers are looking better
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damn i feel bad for this dude.
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dude is 38 years old and head coach of the Miami Dolphins….
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This dude never claimed being black
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Hella awkward....
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RE: Hella awkward....
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he tired of being reminded he got some black in him
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Lmao
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the way he said his Dad was Black sounded so disappointing
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      he made "Black" sound like the comedic missed trombone note
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Same guy that said he saw no red flags about the Dolphins. Lol
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sounds like a man who was passing and got outed
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I wonder if any of the players that he coached as an assistant knew he.....
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I bet no one knew until we all knew
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He's a human being but his dad is black
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      totally missed it.. lol. Good catch
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For the franchise that fired Brain Flores
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Someone must have gotten in his ear for damage control. (swipe)
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I don't feel bad for anyone that hasn't experienced racism...
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Have they said Kevin O’Connell’s name once during this game?
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And it’s obvious that McVay is calling the plays for the Rams…
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McVay absolutely handles play calling.
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      100%
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who?? lol
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      THE 36y/o "offensive guru" that is going to coach the Vikings
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           yeah. that was sarcasm
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                I know but Jay got us Snoop and Dr Dre at halftime so it’s all good…
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                     But why 50? It should have been Ice Cube or Game over 50
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                     No idea I guess he made a deal with Illuminati for the messages…
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                     leave Jay alone!
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                     Lmao!
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                          I so HATED when folks said that dumb shit...
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1. "i like what I've seen out of the Broncos this year"
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they get the right QB in there that's 3-4 more wins this year.

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2. "didn't yall cape for this guy? yikes"
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The Lions and OC Anthony Lynn are expected to part ways following today’s game, sources say. One of the more respected leaders as a HC, it was never a good fit as OC for Lynn in Detroit. He had play-calling duties stripped earlier, and now both sides appear set to walk away.

  

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7. "I wonder where he'll pop up"
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9. "It was high time they turned the play calling over..."
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to the offensive genius, Dan Campbell.

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3. "Itll be interesting 2 see who they get, does Elway still call the shots?"
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Friday the rumors were the Jags were looking at Leftwich. I think TL will be a good building block but he needs a good GM to build out the team.

Lewis Riddick was supposedly a hot GM name early last year to the point where the rest of the MNF crew basically said farewell early. I feel like they may have jinxed him.

I wonder if Bienemy will get a shot or has his time passed.

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4. "Steelers GM stepping down after 2022 draft"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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5. "The Denver firing makes no sense.. Teddy Bridgewater? "
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Is that really a QB who sets a HC up for success?

John Elway is the one who needs to go.

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6. "Elway gave up GM duties in 2020"
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and will probably be completely out this offseason, especially if the team sells

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10. "That just makes the firing worse "
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I get it
Old yt dude
But turnstile at QB
turnover at GM
Covid
Von missed 2020 and got traded
What were they expecting?
The team I saw yesterday…Drew Lock at QB with a chance to beat the AFC champs…looked well coached
They don’t have the talent to be better than their record.

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12. "haven’t watched them much this year but yesterday they looked well coa..."
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did they expect playoffs or a SB run?

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14. "Bridgewater was good when he was healthy"
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22. "he's a stop gap and his arm is shot"
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8. "Rumor is David Culley is going to be out"
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How could any coach be successful with that dumpster fire?


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11. "what a terrible organization"
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13. "I feel like he was a placeholder anyway "
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15. "right, once Houston knew they couldn’t play freaky Jason…"
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they just offered Cullen the gig. They knew they weren’t going anywhere.

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16. "Placeholder for what though?"
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There seems to be zero planning here.


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18. "The org was already in flux then the Deshaun thing really threw them…"
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>There seems to be zero planning here.

for a loop, they’ll definitely be starting over from scratch, unless Culley did something miraculous he was never going the have that job for more than a year

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19. "Did they think hiring a Black QB would make DeShaun happy? "
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just weird to hire dude for 1 year and fire him when they actually looked okay all things considered

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17. "It was a strange hire but I think he has done fairly well"
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He mostly played a rookie QB and it is a full on rebuild in Houston and I felt Houston played hard for the most part this season.

  

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21. "Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals"
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<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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CHASE SwAyZe
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79. "RE: Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals"
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Not sure this has ever happened in world history, but this is pretty interesting...........

Houston NFL Coach: Black Man
Houston NBA Coach: Black Man
Houston MLB Coach: Black Man
Houston Police Chief: Black Man
Houston Mayor: Black Man

BTW: Lifelong Houstonian here -- Google "Jack Easterby" and you'll see why the Texans are beyond repair......

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/10/ex-chaplain-jack-easterby-houston-texans-chaos-after-power-struggle-daily-cover

Not to mention this.......

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-obrien-was-trying-to-get-fired-by-texans-to-take-over-for-bill-belichick-in-new-england-book-reveals/

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20. "Wrong post"
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23. "Schefty reporting Nagy gone"
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26. "…and Ryan Pace"
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24. "Schefty reporting Zimmer and Spielman out"
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31. "Thank God!"
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and now that Flores is on the market, go get him Ziggy

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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25. "Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores"
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27. "WTF!! Can the chargers fire Staley and hire Flores?"
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Or at least try to get him as the DC?

This is shocking. I thought Grier would have been fired before Flores or both would be fired together.

  

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28. "This is dumb"
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They were actually ahead of schedule in the rebuilding process.


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29. "What??? WHY???"
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Ziggy....fire Zimmer right now and get Flores on the phone ASAP

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32. "Zimmer gone"
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39. "yeah, saw that above after I saw the Flores post"
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glad Zimmer and Spielman are out. Don't understand the Dolphins firing Flores. He's an excellent coach.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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30. "...and the Iggles are getting their 1st round pick..."
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That should work out great.

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33. "Eagles got the 15 and 16 picks plus their TBD pick "
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Not bad at all.

  

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35. "The Wentz trade was the biggest cap hit in NFL history"
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Iggles paid him +30M to go to Indy
Yuge gamble...looking like it paid it off
Only risk now is Howie is terrible at drafting.

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36. "Huge gamble but it worked out to perfection "
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Hitting on the 16th pick would just be icing on the cake at this point.

How did you get the Miami pick? Was that a trade back in the draft with Miami?

  

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45. "there was a bunch of pick swaps in the last draft"
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I think we moved up and then moved back...not exactly sure of the transactions

...but basically, one of those moves, MIA gave up the 2022 pick to move up to 6 in 2021...

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34. "WHAT.......THE..........FUCK"
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How in the what in the fuck??

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41. "RE: Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores"
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>.

Several teams could/should dump their coach and get Flores. I’m down with that.

I wonder what Zimmer is gonna do..chill? DC for revenge? Get another middle of the road gig and hope his qb isn’t Kirky?

  

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42. "I could see him end up as the DC for a middling squad"
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44. "you all can stop being fake shocked about how this shit works lol"
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63. "there's a post right today nitpicking Tomlin's career"
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so I don't think the "NFL owners = racists" thing has gotten through to everyone on OKS yet

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46. "I would fire Carroll and Hire Flores so fast if Russ were staying"
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61. "All season they have expected playoffs"
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Now if you ask me that was very unrealistic but I am not surprised they pulled the trigger here

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81. "that's an imaginary excuse"
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if he had made the playoffs he would've been fired for not going further

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37. "5 confirmed opening now"
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Miami
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Jacksonville
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Las Vegas

  

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47. "RE: Las Vegas"
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The interim is a COTY candidate IMO
Gruden
Ruggs
...and just Raiders doing Raiders things...
Still made the playoffs
They should retain him permanently.

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49. "Left off Denver"
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55. "Thanks, I knew I was forgetting someone "
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38. "smh.. these teams never learn. They lack patience with these Black coach..."
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you can’t hire and fire your way to success.

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43. "It seems Miami picked Grier and Tua over Flores"
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I would expect Miami to go with an offensive minded coach in an effort to help Tua.

It never seemed like Flores wanted Tua or trusted him.

  

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53. "yeah Flores was never a Tua guy..."
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>I would expect Miami to go with an offensive minded coach in
>an effort to help Tua.
>
>It never seemed like Flores wanted Tua or trusted him.

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82. "Tua ain't good enough to save any franchise"
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90. "I know that, Flores knows that but Grier and Ross may not know that "
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Or Grier is too stubborn to admit it.

  

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40. "reading *speculation* about Miami…"
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apparently, the owner has a huge hard on for Harbaugh…wanted to hire him last time he was on the move.

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58. "According to Ross today, he's not going after Harbaugh..."
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/01/10/jim-harbaugh-rumors-dolphins-stephen-ross-brian-flores-comments

Dolphins Owner Stephen Ross Addresses If Team Plans to Target Jim Harbaugh

Dolphins owner Stephen Ross made clear on Monday that the team does not plan on trying to hire Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh back to the NFL, and to have Harbaugh succeed Brian Flores as Miami's coach.

“I'm not going to be the one who takes Jim Harbaugh away from the University of Michigan,” Ross told reporters.

Ross, a Michigan alumnus and booster of the football program, addressed possible Harbaugh buzz in the same press conference in which he elaborated on the team's firing of Flores.

Flores was let go on Monday after only three seasons, and despite winning 19 games over the past two years.

Harbaugh, the current Wolverines coach, has not coached in the NFL since 2014, when he was with the 49ers. However, in recent weeks, reports of Harbaugh's possible return to the NFL have intensified.

The former 49ers coach is once again on the NFL radar, The MMQB has reported. Bruce Feldman of The Athletic reported that Harbaugh could be tempted to make his return to the NFL, citing both Michigan and league sources.

Ross's comments confirmed a report from both ESPN and The MMQB, in which both outlets said Flores's firing was unrelated to Harbaugh.

According to ESPN, Flores's firing was related to deteriorating relationships with general manager Chris Grier and quarterback Tua Tagovailoa.

Harbaugh went 44-19-1 in four seasons during his time with 49ers, which spanned 2011–2014, making a Super Bowl appearance in his second season.

  

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60. "That “I’m not going to be the one…"
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to take Harbaugh from Michigan” line sounds bogus as hell, lol. All he did was leave the door open should Harbaugh “decide” to leave.

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62. "He's the biggest donor the Michigan athletic department has..."
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So I really doubt he'd be screwing us over, especially considering the above statement.

  

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69. "Yeah, I read that line as Harbaugh might leave Michigan but "
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I won’t be the one to hire him from Michigan.

  

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70. "Exactly...here's the full quote for context..."
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“I love Jim Harbaugh,” Ross said. “He had the opportunity once before to come to the Miami Dolphins.”

But, Ross added, “He’s at the University of Michigan as everybody really knows. That is the school that I graduated from and I’m very involved in it, and I’m not going to be the person that takes Jim Harbaugh from the University of Michigan. I hope he stays there. He is a great coach.”

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/01/10/dolphins-stephen-ross-fires-brian-flores-rejects-jim-harbaugh-talk/9158311002/

  

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98. "What if he went after Ryan Day in the ultimate villain move lol"
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(I have a feeling he leaves TOSU for the NFL in the next few years anyway.. esp if he wins a chip. Dude from New Hampshire isnt staying in Columbus Ohio for life. Just like Chip Kelly wasnt staying in Eugene Oregon for the rest of his.)

>“I love Jim Harbaugh,” Ross said. “He had the
>opportunity once before to come to the Miami Dolphins.”
>
>But, Ross added, “He’s at the University of Michigan as
>everybody really knows. That is the school that I graduated
>from and I’m very involved in it, and I’m not going to be
>the person that takes Jim Harbaugh from the University of
>Michigan. I hope he stays there. He is a great coach.”
>
>https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/01/10/dolphins-stephen-ross-fires-brian-flores-rejects-jim-harbaugh-talk/9158311002/

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48. "Flores would fit nice with the Chicago Bears"
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Defensive minded, young coach and young future QB. Hired a talented offensive coordinator

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50. "is Frank Reich still living off Nick Foles' hot run 3 or 4 years ago?"
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52. "He made the mistake of thinking Wentz could be good. "
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Colts and Reich did a good job with Phillip Rivers last year.
Carson Wentz has become a career destroying QB if people ride with him.

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54. "Yeah, the colts would have been better off if Rivers came back "
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64. "they called Rivers when Wentz had covid"
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I bet one of Rivers kids hung up on them

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74. "Lmao. The first heir in line for the Rivers throne. "
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59. "he will start on a warm seat in 2022"
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the slow starts to the season and his refusal to give up playcalling duties (as the offense tanked down the stretch) are going to be heavily judged after this collapse.

GM Chris Ballard as well. he cannot draft a defensive end to save his job, and yet he keeps trying.

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77. "IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking"
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They've been middling for a minute now
Obviously, Luck retired and they didn't have an heir apparent in the wings
Had a losing season following
Then rebounded with Rivers
...but just to be aight...
I would have preferred to keep Reich in Philly in hindsight with how Pederson worked out
I think he's a great coach
and IRT Wentz, that was the motivation for him going to Indy
They thought they could recapture his MVP 17' form
Wentz has mental issues
He's got all of the physical tools...but just can't be who he was 5 years ago
They would have been better off tanking given where they are today and the QB class of last year
Now they're stuck with Wentz, I don't see how that's on Reich...?

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78. "RE: IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking"
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>They've been middling for a minute now
>Obviously, Luck retired and they didn't have an heir apparent
>in the wings
>Had a losing season following
>Then rebounded with Rivers
>...but just to be aight...
>I would have preferred to keep Reich in Philly in hindsight
>with how Pederson worked out
>I think he's a great coach
>and IRT Wentz, that was the motivation for him going to Indy
>They thought they could recapture his MVP 17' form
>Wentz has mental issues
>He's got all of the physical tools...but just can't be who he
>was 5 years ago
>They would have been better off tanking given where they are
>today and the QB class of last year
>Now they're stuck with Wentz, I don't see how that's on
>Reich...?

so with a white coach its the player's fault? gotcha

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85. "Wentz choked...you disagree?"
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Reich went 11-5 with noodle arm Rivers
Had the reclamation project Wentz a W away from the playoffs
Everything isn't a social justice moment
Wentz choked.

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80. "Reich clearly put his coaching career on the line for Wentz"
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no way Indy makes that trade without Reich promising that he can fix Wentz. Reich is a good coach and the Luck retirement was unlucky, but ultimately he has never won the division and in 2 of his 4 seasons, he hasn't prepared the team to start the season (1-5 in 2018 and 1-4 in 2021).

also, Wentz's 2017 season was the anomaly. to be in your sixth year in the league and still making hero ball, game-losing decisions every-fucking-week is who is he is.

he's not broken and he doesn't have a mental block. he just wasn't that good to begin with.

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86. "He did course correct from last year"
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He actually did improve from dog$hit, to middle of the pack
Didn't happen in one season, but he did improve
<shrug>
Maybe mental issue wasn't the right term, more of a block
He looks terrified of getting hit
When he was on 17 and 18 he was way more confident
He's got the natural arm talent
Reich corrected the TO machine he was last year
IDK about writing him off just yet
Didn't work this year
GM needs to decide if they try again or move on...and that was the point of my post
Rivers wasn't a long-term solution
If they weren't committed to Wentz long-term
They should have just tanked in 2020
Rivers wasn't going to win a SB
and now you've got a long shot bet that didn't pan out in year one
As fun as it is to party on Wentz...they were real close to their goal this year

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51. "Dolphins statement "
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https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1480548522550300677?s=20

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56. "They tried to call him incompetent in a fancy way"
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Could have easily cited a difference in "team philosophy" but nah they had to make sure to say he didn't meet their standards.

  

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57. "You see it. The fucking Dolphins’ standards…smh"
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65. "Gettleman retires…"
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1480595389065699330?s=20

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71. "retire? lmao. "
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83. "one of the worst GM runs in history"
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66. "Early rumor Lane Kiffin to Vikings...WTF???"
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I know extensions don't mean anything but seriously.

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67. "Lol…just heard that same thing"
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68. "oh please no"
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being a life long Vikings fan is hard enough...don't make it worse on us Vikings fans by bringing in this clown. Ugh.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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72. "Bears hire Bill Polian to help with the coaching search"
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Good luck Bears fans.


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73. "truly amazing."
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these dumb rich white men don't deserve fandom

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76. "to be old and white.. lmao"
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89. "Hilarious"
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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95. "Wow "
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100. "the guy best known for going to 4 straight superbowls & losing them all"
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>Good luck Bears fans.
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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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75. "Firing Ryan Pace was stupid."
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Drafted :

Cohen
Jaylen Johnson
Roquan Smith ( possibly defensive player of the year)
Cmet
Fields
Montgomery
Mooney
Herbert..


He also brought in Mack, Robinson, and Graham.

Just like when they fired John Fox prior to firing Nagy, we are going to
be right back here in 4 years.

Pace wasn’t the problem....Chicago Bears culture is the problem....zero patience and
and the radio personalities are toxic as shit.

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84. "what a squad. only a half dozen All-Pros away from going to the playoffs"
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>Cohen
>Jaylen Johnson
>Roquan Smith ( possibly defensive player of the year)
>Cmet
>Fields
>Montgomery
>Mooney
>Herbert

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88. "Did he draft Trubisky?"
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92. "Pace needed to go too....."
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You should get fired for passing on Mahomes and Watson for Trubisky. Not only that he TRADED UP FOR TRUBISKY.

It's not like any of his other drafts were all that great either.

  

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93. "Trubisky was the number 1 QB prospect on the board "
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BY ALL SCOUTS. He was ahead of Mahomes and Watson. Trubisky was
going top 5/10 regardless of who drafted him.

So stop it.

Pace drafted the number 1 QB on the board is what a gm is supposed to do.
No one knew anything about mahomes or perceived him to be good. It’s the
same thing with Herbert.

Pace is not at fault if a top prospect doesn’t pan out.

And he made some outstanding draft picks. Smith is a major stud, and so are
Montgomery and Mooney..

Bears’ Qb issues did’t/don’t start with Pace. That has been an on going issue throughout
the history of the bears.

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94. "Everyone worth a damn at the time knew it was doomed and a bad pick....."
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PFF and Walter Football and analytics garbage outlets like that had Trubisky rated one but Sean Payton, Andy Reid, and a BUNCH of NFL scouts were looking hard at Mahomes and thought he had the most raw talent. They knew he had elite arm talent and could cook in their system. Watson was the real dividing player. Some had Kizer ahead of him.

You're talking about Trubisky like he was an Andrew Luck prospect. GTFOH.

  

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97. "Revisionism."
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Trubisky was hands down the number one prospect on all boards, and was
going to be taken number 3 by the Jets.

https://www.pff.com/news/ranking-the-top-10-qb-draft-prospects

Here is the official prospect list from that year. Trubisky is number 1, some
even had Kizer over mahomes and Watson.

So Pace moved up and took the number one guy, who people wanted at the time.
In fact, the following season the bears went 12-4, and Trubisky was giving high
ratings. The wheels feel off after that season.

So again your perception is bullshit, and pace did a good job drafting, because
the bears have a roster of talented players.

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101. "Once you bring in the Jets as your defense....."
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This is a wrap. The Jets. That makes your argument look even worse. Pace had to trade ahead of the other franchise in the league that sucks at evaluating and drafting QB's because they were going to take Trubisky?

I'm done.

  

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105. "Teams above the jets did not need a QB, and everyone after "
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the jets who needed a QB had Trubisky high on their list, which is why
Pace moved up. We can sit here and say how terrible Trubisky is all we want to,
which is true. However, in 2017, Trubisky was the number 1 QB prospect on all NFL
scouts’ list, and after the 12-4 season, he was highly rated as a great choice by the bears.

So yeah it’s easy to say that Trubisky is trash after the fact.....and to blame
Ryan Pace for all of it. But that’s not how things actually went down.

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106. "lmao.. gotdamn"
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102. "nah.. that was the ole big white QB with all the measurables list"
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Now I know white folks love a big white QB but he was not the best pick at the time

Scouting boards love to prop up guys like Trubisky. you have to be a fucking idiot to buy into that shit. Not you.. I mean these GM’s who love white QB’s for obvious reasons.

and Kizer? Where is he now? That is typical ND hype and its the reasons
teams like Chicago struggled for years drafting a QB. They slobber over measurable’s and damn near frown on actual game tape.

I didn’t trust Mahommes but Watson? Not sure how anyone could watch him vs Bama 2 years straight and not see franchise.

As someone who had to watch more Trubisky than I wanted since I live in NC, I was cracking up when the GM said every time Trubisky got in good things happened. What tapes did he watch? He was big and average at UNC.

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108. "^^ This is revisionism bullshit."
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Both Mahomes and Trubisky went to the pro ball in their second season and led
their teams to 12-4 records, and both teams went to the POs

Mithc threw for 3200 yards, 24 TDs, with a 94pct passer rating that season.

But the following season the wheels fell off. . That’s how that shit went down.

So was it truly a bad draft choice or simply bad coaching that lead to Trubisky’s
downfall. I’m not saying that Trubisky is on the same level as Mahomes, but
Mahomes plays for a great system under an elite QB coach. Mitch played under Nagy.

Ryan Pace should not be blamed for that.

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109. "You keep bringing up one year like its his whole career"
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Mark Sanchez also had a good season once or twice.

Point is.. people were shocked when Trubisky was picked and he wasn’t worthy of that pick.

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111. "Who was shocked?"
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Nobody in Chicago was terribly shocked, and the mock drafts were already out there
with Trubisky being the first QB taking off the board. It was just a matter of who
was going to take him.

Stop making stuff up. Hell, it wasn’t even a big QB draft class that year.
3 QBs taken in the first round. 1 taken in the 2nd, and 1 taken in the third.

And not only that, the Chiefs were interested in taking him as well.
People forget that they were trying to move up to number 5 in the draft by
trying to trade with the Titans. They took Mahomes at number 10. They even passed
on Watson.



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118. "You just signed Glennon for 3/45"
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here is the draft coverage. No one is discussing this pick like it was likely or
made sense.

Dude started 13 games.. went 8-5 and you gave up a ton for him.

It was shocking… and idiotic.

and did KC and Texans jump up to 3 and 4 to get QB’s?

Nah… they were smart and waited. You guys got gamed by the Jets and Browns 2 teams that would’ve SAVED you from making a terrible selection and giving up 4 picks

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127. "^^^^LIES"
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Both the Chiefs and Texans gave up assets to move up in the draft.

They didn’t wait.

Dude, please stop.

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133. "Those teams were drafting in the 20's when they traded up....."
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So they did wait. His point is they didn't panic and trade into the top 5.

For whatever reason the Bears traded up ONE pick because the 49ers spooked them and they thought the Jets might trade ahead of them.

Let that team make that dumbass trade. Don't be that team. They turned out to be that team.

The Jets turned around and did it for Darnold the very next year. LOL.

  

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135. "They moved up to 10 and 12"
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and didn’t give up 4 picks to get their guys

I said they didnt move up to the 3rd and 4th picks to get their QB’s

gotta read the words

no lies told

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110. "Nagy runs the same system as Andy!!!"
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Lmao....wtf man. What is it going to take for you to admit trading up for Trubisky was a shitty move.

I've never seen someone try this hard to defend an average ass GM.

Pace drafted Kevin White #7 in his first draft. That's a fire-able offense on it's own.


  

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113. "You putting Nagy on the same level as Andy Reid?"
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Now who is being illogical here? Matt Nagy is not Andy Reid, and doesn’t
know how to run a system, which is why he had to give up play calling duties.
I think he is better as just being a coach, not a developer of QBs

You can’t be serious.

What I’m telling you is that Mitch Trubisky was going to be the first QB taken
regardless Of the Bears taking him. More teams were interested in him over Mahomes
and Watson, and like I stated above even the Chiefs passed on Watson.

Several teams were interested in trading up to get Trubisky, even the Chiefs,
which is why Pace moved up to number 2 to get him.

This is what you fail to comprehend.

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116. "lmao at claiming a few bad teams were lining up to draft Trubisky"
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don’t believe the hype. Chicago got suckered into drafting a bum.

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117. "I believe the Jets would have done that shit....."
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But Andy Reid?!?!? Naw man. You're not about to convince me or anyone else that Andy was trading up for Trubisky with Mahomes and Watson out there.

If Mahomes would have went to the Bears and Trubisky had fell instead then who knows.....but I think Andy wanted Mahomes all along.

John Dorsey was pretty adamant about their scouting on Mahomes before and after that draft.

  

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119. "RE: I believe the Jets would have done that shit....."
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Both players were on their board. That is a fact. Watson was never
an interest for them. So had the Bears drafted Mahomes, the Chiefs
would have selected Trubisky or some other team before them.

Everybody wants to bullshit with how coveted Trubisky was that year.

Look, we know Trubisky isn’t good now. But during that draft year, and up to his
second season, that wasn’t the case. He was highly rated.


Everyone can point fingers AFTER THE FACT.




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122. "Jets probably would’ve because they suck at drafting QB’s too"
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check out the bleacher report and all the skeptics right after the pick

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2698963-bears-shock-the-world-draft-mitchell-trubisky-after-trading-up-to-no-2

Why couldn’t he beat out Williams at UNC?

Only started 13 games?

and yes, there is also some serious for Trubisky but we hear that shit every draft. Better athlete than Brett Favre.. whatever that means.

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125. "Those comps are all good players...."
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But not players you draft as the second pick in the draft. The Alex Smith pick proves that even more.

I look at Trubisky in the same way I look at Ryan Tannehill. You can win with him. But that guys isn't taking over a game. He's not a top 10 QB. Same with Derek Carr.

The fact that this dude is still defending this pick is insane. The idea that anyone else could get one over on Pace and actually think Mahomes was better is like unheard of to him. (But that's basically what happened).

Trubisky wasn't so much better than Mahomes and Watson that it required moving up to 2. I could see if he was THAT MUCH BETTER even in the scouting but he was a one year starter on top of that.

  

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126. "^^^This is all cow shit and after the fact."
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No one knew shit from shit on how those QBs would turn out. It was such
a weak QB draft, that ESPN wrote an article on how all three teams were taking
a huge risk on moving up to take Tru, Mahomes and Watson. All three teams gave up
a lot of assets to move up.

Im not trying to justify a damn thing. I’m telling the truth on what went on with that
QB draft class, and Trubisky was the top draft prospect of that class. You can
armchair QB all you want to.

Also, when both Trubisky and Mahomes went to the pro bowl, both of the bears
and Chiefs were predicted to go to the super bowl the following year. Those
are facts.

When the Bears went 12-4, everyone was saying positive things about Trubisky and
bears. That’s a fact.

So miss me with your revisionism bullcrap, and meaningless criticism AFTER THE FACT.

Ryan Pace moved up to take a number 1 QB prospect. That QB went to the pro bowl,
and the Bears made 2 PO appearances with him, and he has a winning record
as a QB. Unfortunately, he didn’t continue to evolve as a QB, so it didn’t work out.

THE END.

Half the teams in the NFL can’t say that about their QB.






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129. "Personally, it was racism when it came to Watson’s assessment"
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how does anyone watch this dude shit all over Bama to the tune of 800+ yards, 7 TD’s and 1 INT in 2 national title games and have questions about him as a pro?

Yet a guy with 13 starts has all the intangibles? FOH.

and bruh, every 2 years the Browns are the favorites to make the SB in offseason predictions. No one gives a shit about SB predictions fam.

and I provided a link where multiple people predicted Trubisky was a bust. It wasn’t revisionist. Some were high on him and some weren’t and yall fools fell for the hype.


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128. "49ers finessed the hell out of the Chicago GM"
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what really makes it crazy is Chicago had 4 QB’s on their roster already.

and while I still would clown them if they stood firm and picked Trubisky over Watson and Mahommes…

giving up 4 picks to move up to get him was insane.

You make that move for Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck. You don’t make that move for a kid that had 13 starts, went 8-5 and broke no passing records. They got hype off the hype

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96. "the internet disagrees with you"
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/24/2017-nfl-draft-quarterback-rankings

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99. "Sports illustrated writers’ opinion? SMH"
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Officials scouting list

https://www.pff.com/news/ranking-the-top-10-qb-draft-prospects

NFL SCOUTS LIST, Trubisky number 1:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2017/04/24/nfl-draft-quarterback-qb-rankings-scouts-deshaun-watson-mitchell-trubisky-deshone-kizer/100817778/

I see why you know nothing about football.

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104. "No GM should be looking at an online scouting list for guidance"
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this simply comes down to scouting and film

No one should ever draft a QB from Duke or UNC in the top 10 unless that dude has 2 Heismans, a National Championship and broke every NCAA passing record.



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157. "RE: Firing Ryan Pace was stupid."
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Pace was bad

Nagy was bad

The results are bad.


Your "analysis" of his transactionsleaves out how he would inevitably dig one hole while filling another.

I can demonstrate, if you like

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

http://coolehmag.com/frontEnd/

  

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87. "Chargers need to fire Tom Telesco "
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His drafts have largely been duds, especially after the 1st round. His FA pickups have been ineffective as they are often injured and don’t contribute.

He lucked into Herbert due to the dolphins taking Tua. Trading back into the first round in 2020 to draft LB Kenneth Murray was questionable on draft day and it looks terrible now.

  

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91. "Flores meeting with the Bears about head coaching job (swipe)"
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https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1480933321190301698

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115. "I don’t want this guy."
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He is a defensive specialist at best, and doesn’t know
how to develop QBs


I want Leftwich, or the OC for the Ravens.

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120. "He was given an often injured undersized QB he didn't even want. "
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Saying he doesn't know how to develop Qbs is weird considering Tua was injured 50% of the time and is obviously not a franchise Quarterback. And he still pulled off two back to back winning seasons for a garbage franchise. Bears would be lucky to get Brian Flores. He can hire an OC for the develop a QB aspect. Bears are a defense first franchise.

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103. "still waiting for the Joe Judge is fired headline"
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what more can you do to be fired but literally QB sneak on 3rd and 11

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107. "would think NY would want a crack at Flores"
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but I think they have something weird going on in NYC when it comes to management and drafting QB’s.

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112. "He gone"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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114. "Joe Judge got a dozen emails, today, telling him he was fired"
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121. "Owners were saying just how much they'd enjoy it"
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if he never coached for them again.

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123. "Did I miss something? Is this real?"
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124. "Lol, nah, we were clowning his dumb ass rant…"
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from a couple weeks ago. So stupid.

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130. "Jay Gruden and Bill O'Brien, WTF??!! LANK"
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These two dudes are going to eff around and get gigs:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/09/report-panthers-target-bill-obrien-jay-gruden-as-next-offensive-coordinator/

I guess Gruden's recent racism "I would never change the name from Redskins" sounded the alarms and got him back on the coaching prospects list.


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131. "the Panthers have been doing some head scratching shit for a while now"
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132. "Panthers are a shit show in the making"
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One knee jerk reaction after another. Why in the world would they want these retread coaches is beyond sensical but they seem to be pretty rudderless.

  

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136. "its like they're being reactionary trying to overcorrect their previous...."
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decisions by going too hard on inexperienced college guys and now trying to bring in some "name" retreads and missing badly, the Gruden name is toxic and O'Brien was all but run out of Houston and left that place in shambles

>One knee jerk reaction after another. Why in the world would
>they want these retread coaches is beyond sensical but they
>seem to be pretty rudderless.

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134. "lemme chill, that was a rumor"
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but Tepper was a minority owner in Pittsburgh, I would’ve expected him to be a bit smarter at this ownership thing

I predicted firing Rivera would bite him in the azz..

and Charlotte sports fans are pissed.

This FO doesn’t have a clue

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137. "Jimmy Haslam was a minority owner for the Steelers too...."
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The Browns have been largely dysfunctional during Haslam's entire run so far as owner. Being around a well run organization doesn't necessarily mean you know what to do on your own.

So much about ownership and front office culture is based on instincts but also on real experience and vision. You have to be able to recognize the right traits in people to surround yourself with and it has to trickle down. The next person has to be able to do the same and so and so forth.

  

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139. "yup.. one would think they would learn but I think its just a way"
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to get into the inner ring so you can eventually own a team and show them how it should be done.

It really is like the sitcoms where the person downplays their SO or family members responsibilities and they trade places for a day and the dishwasher overflows with bubbles or the burger machine makes too many hamburgers.

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138. "Panthers GM Scott Fitterer came up in the Seattle organization..."
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and thought he was going to find the next Pete Carroll and it basically blew up in his face

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158. "Fitterer didn't hire Rhule...Hurney did"
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Fitterer inherited Rhule...

and I said this on my podcast weeks ago...

The longer Rhule stays, the higher chance that Fitterer will be fired with him...

  

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140. "My picks"
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Jay Gruden to the Vikings
Leftwich to the Jags
Flores to the Bears or Broncos
Zimmer or Nagy to the Dolphins

Could see Zimmer going to the Bears if they dont want Flores.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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141. "I can't see Jay Gruden getting a HC job right now..."
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>Jay Gruden to the Vikings
>Leftwich to the Jags
>Flores to the Bears or Broncos
>Zimmer or Nagy to the Dolphins
>
>Could see Zimmer going to the Bears if they dont want Flores.

Leslie Frazier may get the Bears job

Harbaugh may go to the Raiders

I could see Leftwich to the Jags but he needs a strong GM, maybe they give Louis Riddick another look, he was supposedly in the running for the last year

Flores may go to the Vikes, I think Nagy is done as a HC in the NFL

Miami might do Josh McDaniels

The Giants came out of left field with Joe Judge, they will probably try to go the established route with somebody like Doug Pederson

Broncos could do Bienemy or some young unknown offensive guru

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142. "I could see Nagy being the KC OC if Bieniemy gets a HC job"
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I am sure if Nagy goes to KC he will do well and then get another HC job.

  

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143. "Man, don't do the Vikings like that"
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Jay Gruden? I sure hope not. Was hoping for Flores but all the junk coming out of Miami makes him sound like the same thing the Vikings players didn't like about Zimmer so now hoping for Bieniemy.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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144. "Houston Texans fire head coach David Culley after one season(link)"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/houston-texans-fire-head-coach-david-culley-after-one-season-201322833.html

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145. "David Culley out, in Houston. Man never had a chance."
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147. "This one might be more fucked up than Flores"
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What expectations did Houston have for this season? Houston played hard and wasn’t an easy win, their rookie QB played well and has potential. The last 4 games of the season and you could see the team going in the right direction, they just needed more talent.

  

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154. "Nah. He was obviously a stop-gap coach for the Watson situation "
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This isn't shocking, even if he did do a decent job.

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155. "I get he was a stop gap but the Watson situation hasn’t been resolved"
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It would be one thing if he was recently traded and Houston had a lot of upcoming picks but they don’t. Perhaps he gets dealt before or on the draft but Houston is still going to have to hire a coach who is willing to step into an unresolved situation.

  

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148. "It was a fall guy gig to begin with"
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The Watson stuff came up before he got the job right? If not then nvm

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149. "right I don't know why people are pretending to be shocked lol"
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150. "No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much better "
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for Houston so I thought they would give him two years since the Watson stuff still isn’t resolved.

  

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152. "RE: No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much bet..."
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>for Houston so I thought they would give him two years since
>the Watson stuff still isn’t resolved.

whomever gets that job will be starting from the ground up anyway. Most people had never heard of Culley before he got that job.

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151. "Culley was hired in January…"
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after Watson made the trade request, which was just after they hired the new GM. The allegations came out well after Culley got hired, but once they knew Watson couldn’t be put on the field, Culley was donezo.

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156. "I think he knew the deal and was good with it"
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After 25 years as an assistant coach, he knows how these front-offices move.

People are talking about his firing in the context of the lack of black coaches in the NFL but he's probably at home, waiting on the remaining $17M like https://youtu.be/eLl7dONoUT8

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146. "David Culley fired....."
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These owners aint shit man. There are MAYBE 5 consistently well run organizations in the league at this point.

Pittsburgh
New England
Green Bay
Baltimore
Kansas City

You could make an argument for:
Seattle
Denver
New Orleans
Dallas
Philly
Buffalo

  

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153. "RE: David Culley fired....."
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top 5 are fine, don't think I'd argue the others except New Orleans and Buffalo, maybe Seattle. I'd add Tampa Bay for now with Brady anyways, will see if they turn back to Sucaneers after he retires but solid team and coach at the moment. Also LA Rams are well run, again maybe spending everything to win now may burn them in a couple years tho.

  

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159. "I'm I the only one not impressed by Kellen Moore?"
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Because he's going to get one of these opening.

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160. "McCarthy gets blamed for all the bad play calls"
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but when they work, it's all Moore :/

Moore called that last QB draw, which should be a disqualifying event for at least one HC cycle

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161. "He’s going to fail and it will be glorious"
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Let’s just sit back and watch the show

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162. "I’m way more anxious about Quinn possibly leaving than I am Moore"
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163. "He is Jason Garrett 2.0, just younger "
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I wouldn’t hire him over Leftwich, Bieniemy or Daboll.

  

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164. "And a punchable face! "
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166. "I'm still trying to figure out how he became a thing. "
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Dude had ZERO coaching experience. The Cowboys offense is actually fucking LOADED with talent. I dont think its product of him being some secret offensive genius. For the life of me i cannot figure out how he became a "big deal" so fast.

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165. "Mike Mayock out, per Ian Rappaport"
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167. "i wanted to give him another year. looks like they're cleaning house tho..."
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I'm pretty sure Bisaccia is out, even though i think he deserves another shot. Carr possibly out too.

Mayock's whole deal is he was brought on has this draft genius but his choices have been shakey. Crosby, Jacobs, and Renfrow were all W's.
Cle Ferrel (his very first pick as GM) is a disappointment. Arnette didn't work out.. even before his off field stuff, Trayvon Mullen never came around and he's always hurt. Then there's Ruggs which you can't put on Mayock. he was coming into his own before the tragedy.

Looking at 2021 picks, some are at least respectable but no one stands out. Our first rounder Leatherwood is having a horrible rookie season. his strength seems to be committing penalties at the worst possible times

then of course the whole AB disaster

But i wanted to see Mayock operate without Gruden, since he had such a heavy say overall, it's hard to know what was on who

plus the other fucked up thing is if the Gruden stuff didn't happen and we *didn't* make the playoffs, Gruden would still be HC

  

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168. "wasn’t he basically a Gruden shill?"
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169. "wouldn't go that far but he admitted Gruden had final say"
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on personnel decisions

the official talking point is the power dynamic was 51/49 gruden. while it surely wasn't that... i'm pretty sure Mayock had a decent amount autonomy over draft decisions with Gruden needing to sign off

Gruden prolly would have just drafted a bunch of quarterbacks or traded for Drew Lock

  

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170. "Sauces: Flores and Watson want to be a package deal"
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Developing story: Deshaun Watson and Brian Flores have been in constant communication trying to navigate a scenario where they go to the same team,” stated veteran NFL reporter Jordan Schultz. “Watson ‘trusts and likes’ Flores and has been adamant internally that he’d like to play for him next season.”

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173. "I can't see that being true, neither of them have that kind of leverage...."
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>Developing story: Deshaun Watson and Brian Flores have been
>in constant communication trying to navigate a scenario where
>they go to the same team,” stated veteran NFL reporter
>Jordan Schultz. “Watson ‘trusts and likes’ Flores and
>has been adamant internally that he’d like to play for him
>next season.”

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171. "Breaking: Sean Peyton retiring "
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172. "Tayson Hill wept "
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174. "will Jerrah try to cut a deal?"
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182. "Not this season…"
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McCarthy will be the coach, this upcoming season…coaching with the shadow of Sean Pepayton hanging over him.

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175. "Leftwich to jags "
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3403451/jaguars-hire-former-jaguars-1st-round-pick-byron-leftwich-as-their-new-head-coac

I think he’ll work well with Lawrence.

  

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176. "I think that may be partly why Brady is thinking about hanging it up..."
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he probably doesn't want to start over with a new coaching staff

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177. "Possibly. Bigger reason is he's obviously got nothing left to prove"
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>he probably doesn't want to start over with a new coaching
>staff

  

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178. "well that too..."
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>>he probably doesn't want to start over with a new coaching
>>staff

he would probably rather go out with a little left in the tank instead of after a complete fall off

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179. "Yeah. This and delaying the final epsiode of Man In The Arena"
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...all point to Brady retiring. I thought he would come back for one more year but its looking more and more likely the GOAT actually hangs up the cleats. 70+ year old Bruce Arians calling the offense doesnt sound too enticing.

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180. "Congrats Lefty!!! "
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181. "Bucs should have found a way to keep Leftwich and hand it off to him"
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BA should walk away at this point. But we all know how this is going to go.

  

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183. "I'm sure conversations were had, apparently BA isn't ready to walk away...."
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>BA should walk away at this point. But we all know how this
>is going to go.

he probably wants to face the challenge of doing it without Tom, you know how big these coach's egos are. He will probably pull a Payton and retire next year

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189. "Been saying that all year. "
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Arians nearly ruined his reputation as "the cool laid back coach with Kangol hats" this year. He looked old and behaved like he wasnt himself. Makes perfect sense to retire with his ring and let Leftwich take over a team that loves him. Brady would stick around one more year for the transition.

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188. "Jags really found a way to fuck this up."
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"Source tells me that Byron Leftwich is the #jaguars pick but the hold up is over who will have control of the roster. Leftwich wants Trent Baalke out and the #Jaguars to hire Adrian Wilson who is the Vice President of pro scouting with Cardinals." - Chris Porter, Jax News

Khan is really trying to keep that DISASTER of a General Manager. I give up.

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184. "Bears hire former Chiefs personnel exec, Ryan Poles as GM…"
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https://twitter.com/TheTruthTrend/status/1486474697021837312?s=20

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185. "Vikings hire former Browns analytics man Kwesi Adofo-Mensah…"
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as next GM
https://twitter.com/LaCrosseTribune/status/1486669084737605635?s=20

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191. "I like this"
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I mean, the Browns is the Browns but they built a pretty solidly talented roster so seems like he knows what he's doing. Will be interesting to see who they decide to go with for HC and what they decide to do with Cousins.

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186. "Broncos to hire Packers offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett"
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187. "Broncos hire Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett as new head coach…"
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let the Rodgers to Denver talk intensify.
https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1486686454248087555?s=20

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194. "does AR follow?"
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196. "Denver - Home of the *I Couldn't Be Brady* Farewell Tour QBs"
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199. "damn"
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190. "Leftwich wants the disaster GM gone. Jags doing Jags shit. "
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192. "typical"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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193. "What has Sean Payton done that Mike McCarthy hasn't?"
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195. "been suspended."
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197. "RE: What has Sean Payton done that Mike McCarthy hasn't?"
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Kept a job until he wanted out?

I get the zoomed out comparison but he’s a better coach and OC even with the ugly Taysom stuff here at the end.

  

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198. "Yeah. He still somehow almost got that team into the playoffs. "
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Similar to the Mike Tomlin year with Big Ben injured. Mike Mccarthy could never pull that off. Not to mention the weird playoff circumstances (Diggs miracle TD, no call interference).

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204. "Louis Riddick just said this morning…"
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in his time doing MNF and speaking to all types of different football people for production meetings…the two most impressive people he’s spoken to…where they’re just different from everyone else, are Mike Tomlin and Sean Payton. I mean, I dunno what that’s worth, but it’s not nothing.

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202. "McCarthy-1 SB in 12 yrs w/ HOF QB, Payton-1 SB in 15yrs w/ HOF QB"
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200. "Bears hiring Colts DC Matt Eberflus as Head Coach"
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201. "I really thought they'd go with Flores. "
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Interesting

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203. "y'all think the NFL is the NBA?maybe 1 of these jobs goes to a blk coach"
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205. "didn’t they fire Lovie for a Canadian Football coach? "
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that franchise is hilarious when it comes to head coaching hires.

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206. "Marc Trestman....."
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That hire was absolutely ridiculous.

  

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207. "Colts: QB mess ... Eberflus: Defensive guy... Fields: wait, what?"
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208. "I liked Matt from his time at Mizzou…"
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he did great things for that defense and was good at recruiting, but, yeah….this is a weird hire for a team with a young QB you have a lot invested in. Maybe they know something we don’t.

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211. "Lets see who his OC is....."
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Gonna be interesting....

  

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218. "yeah"
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McDermott and Vrabel are defensive coaches, so it depends

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221. "Spare me the QB guru stuff"
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Hire the best coach, if he is a defensive guy he should get a great OC

Chasing "offensive geniuses" is how the Bears ended up here to begin with

They should never have fired Lovie but Marc Trestman's offense actually worked unlike Andy Reid's protege, so there is that.

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234. "Hiring Green Bay QB coach, Luke Getsy as OC…."
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I guess if you even exchanged texts with Aaron Rodgers, this is your time to come up. Cotdamn, Green Bay might lose their OC, QB Coach, QB and all world WR in the same offseason. Good luck Lafleur and Love.

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209. "Jags really about to blow this: Saints request Leftwich interview (swipe..."
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https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-request-interview-leftwich-glenn

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210. "LMAO"
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They really bout to do this to hold on to Trent Balke. LMAOOOOOOOO. I love Leftwich flexing his power at this interview too. He knows the Jags are in no position to try to keep anyone in that front office after this fiasco. Kyle Shanahan got to bring his guy. I applaud Lefty for trying to do the same.

  

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212. "The ENTIRE city hates Baalke. I cannot believe this."
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How do you fuck this up this bad?!?! How Sway??!?!!? I actually feel bad for Trevor Lawrence now. They can't even hire a coach, to wash out the taste of Urban Meyer, without setting a dumpster fire.

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213. "Jaggin off"
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214. "Wilson in......Baalke OUT! Leftwich incoming...."
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Looks like the Jags wised up at the last minute....reports are MUMEROUS candidates wouldn't even take the interview because Baalke was still there.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/27/report-adrian-wilson-in-trent-baalke-out-as-jaguars-g-m/

  

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215. "damn!"
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216. "Excellent. I really didn't want to see Leftwich on Saints."
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217. "I'm hearing now that its not a done deal"
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219. "It's been three days now since Leftwich was reported"
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...and still no movement. I wouldn't say its a done deal at all. Even the local news here is confused as to what is going on. They're going to lose Leftwich if they don't pull the trigger today.

All because of some stupid shitty General Manager that never should have had a job to begin with.

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220. "Giants set to hire Brian Daboll…per Jay Glazer"
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222. "These dudes really hate Eric Bieniemy "
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224. "Unfortunately I feel like they have moved on from for whatever reason"
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223. "Ken Dorsey being either Giants or Bills new o coordinator is interesting"
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I won't lie, I had no idea he was coaching

  

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225. "kellen moore will prolly get an hc job before eric bieniemy."
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232. "RE: kellen moore will prolly get an hc job before eric bieniemy."
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People prolly looking at Matt Nagy and realizing Andy is running the offense over there.

Bienemy surely can't be as useless as Matt Nagy but I also was not trying to see the Bears go back to that well.

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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226. "Can someone more intelligent than myself, explain Kellen Moore to me?"
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Looking at his resume. I don't understand how this dude that flopped in the NFL as a player, got a job immediately because of relationships, spends a couple years as the OC with a stacked underachieving offense, etc is somehow about to get a job before Eric Bieniemy, Leftwich, etc.

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227. "WHITE?"
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228. "Survey says: Correct"
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233. "He checks all the WHITE boxes "
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Played at Boise State, can get much whiter than that.

Career backup despite not doing anything. White QB employment plan.

Retired after doing nothing and immediately his coaching career is immediately fast tracked and given a real coaching job in the NFL.

Has basically failed up and benefitted from those ahead of him being fired but he is always kept on staff.

He is like the white triple crown winner.

  

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229. "Wow...Boise State Kellen Moore? Lol that was *fast*"
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It took Jim Harbaugh years to get an NFL job in comparison and he played a lot longer than Moore and came from a coaching background

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230. "And Harbaugh actually had success as an NFL player. "
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I have no idea what Moore has done to deserve this ascension. His offense isn't exactly mind blowing. He has stacked players. Bieniemy gets knocked for being under Reid, but that Cowboys offense was Jason Garrett. The players were Jason Garrett's.

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231. "Jerry is having Moore follow the Jason Garrett plan"
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>Cowboys offense was Jason Garrett. The players were Jason
>Garrett's.

Garrett was also a career back-up, basically a player-coach behind Aikman, hired as a QB coach immediately after he retired, became offensive coordinator a couple years after that, then finally head coach

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283. "Garrett played ok on Thanksgiving once!!"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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235. "Raiders hitting Patriots for their Personnel guy and OC…"
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Dave Ziegler as new GM and Josh McDaniels as new HC.

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236. "Wow didn’t necessarily see that coming "
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237. "Awful hire. "
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Damn Mark Davis wtf lmao

  

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238. "this brian flores lawsuit against the nfl and ny giants..."
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read this thread:
https://twitter.com/alexweprin/status/1488613314200494080

belichick texts:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKie5iVXsAghE9k?format=jpg&name=large

belichick fucked up and thought he was brian daboll lol.

  

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239. "Fucking crazy. This cant end well for them"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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240. "This is a terrible look for the league but not enough to prove racism......"
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We all know Stephen Ross is a piece of shit. This will only further expose that scumbag. I feel bad for Dolphins fans or any fans with ownership that dipshit and awful.

Between that shit and the Sarver shit in Phoenix you know there are so many more stories like this.

But the Giants situation legally isn't much of one at all since the texts didn't come from someone in that organization. Belichick mistakenly texting Flores thinking he was Daboll is pure comedy and makes him and the Giants look ridiculous but it's not a smoking gun.

Clearly Flores is fed up and who can blame him. You have that shit happen in Miami, get fired.....and the only job offers you have are probably for situations just as awful. He burned any chance he has to be a head coach though so hopefully it's worth it.

  

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241. "Bill said new phone, who dis?"
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242. "absolutely hilarious on Belichick's part"
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243. "harbaugh to become vikings hc."
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https://twitter.com/Balas_Wolverine/status/1488663346115227650

  

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244. "vikings tweeted this after the harbaugh news announced lol."
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Vikings/status/1488680917182861312

  

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245. "he's staying put, I wonder if the Bears and Raiders offered"
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246. "Told Michigan he’s coming back…"
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wonder if something happened
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1489031932558069772?s=20&t=O5gM7xrQntKPNGkrVakvzQ

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248. "Another young unproven white man gets HC position. "
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF/status/1489042753493385218

It's wild that Eric Bieniemy gets knocked for being an OC under Andy Reid but its stated knowledge that Sean Mcvay calls his own plays for the Rams. Somehow THREE of his Offensive Coaches are now Head Coaches.

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251. "you know zac taylor was a young unproven white man right"
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not saying bienemy shouldn't be a HC somewhere but these teams are pruning the mcvay coaching tree for good reason
staley should've been in the playoffs but that team is headed in the right direction with all their cap space

  

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252. "Taylor struck gold with Joe Burrow. 2-14 the year before that. "
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4-11 the year after that while almost getting Burrow killed with an almost career threatening injury due to his play calling.

Matt Lefleur inherited Aaaron Rodgers
And Staley inherited Justin Herbert

Their success doesn't change the fact that black coaches that have put in more time aren't even getting the opportunity to be successful. Or are given a VERY short leash. Anthony Lynn didn't even get a second year with Justin Herbert. Taylor was allowed to have two losing seasons without being fired.

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254. "TALK ABOUT IT…."
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>4-11 the year after that while almost getting Burrow killed
>with an almost career threatening injury due to his play
>calling.
>
>Matt Lefleur inherited Aaaron Rodgers
>And Staley inherited Justin Herbert
>
>Their success doesn't change the fact that black coaches that
>have put in more time aren't even getting the opportunity to
>be successful. Or are given a VERY short leash. Anthony Lynn
>didn't even get a second year with Justin Herbert. Taylor was
>allowed to have two losing seasons without being fired.

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278. "and this is part of the problem. Once they get the new QB up to speed"
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they tend to remove the Black coach and insert a white face to get the glory.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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284. "That shit is INFURIATING "
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Black coaches are the "tank for this player" so we can then fire you and install a new coach with a franchise QB. Flores is exposing all of that.

Steve Wilks got one year with Josh Rosen and was fired. Kliff gets the job after having losing seasons in college and is gifted Kyler Murray and Hopkins.

David Culley helps right the ship during a horrendous season for the Texans, while finding a solid young QB in Davis Mills. Now whatever new coach they hire will get the credit.

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247. "Vikings set to hire Rams OC, Kevin O’Connell"
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249. "Byron Leftwich and Eric Bieniemy deserve better. "
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253. "What is going on with Leftwich and the Jags?"
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Is that officially dead? The Jags have had the strangest consecutive coaching searches in recent memory.

  

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287. "Not a fan of this move"
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I was hoping for Bieniemy. Hopefully it works out.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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290. "just curious..."
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how were you feeling, when it looked like it might be Harbaugh? Were you hyped, not hyped or indifferent?

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318. "RE: just curious..."
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Harbaugh would have been fine. He's had success at the NFL level so he had that going for him. Still would have preferred Bieniemy (or Leftwich or Ryans or Morris) over him but I think the Vikings would have done better initially with Harbaugh at the helm than O'Connell. Who knows? Maybe O'Connell is the next boy genius head coach and the Vikings will have long term success. One can only hope.

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250. "A college coach turns down an NFL team? LOL noted nm"
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255. "Because Harbaugh’s situation was clearly the same as Tomlin’s"
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257. "hit dogs will holler. "
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I just wanted to point out an instance of a college coach, choosing to return to college rather than jump to the pros.

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258. "did he choose to return or did the vikings pass?"
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ive been out of the loop and dont really know what went down

weird situation but i expect nothing less from that weirdo

  

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259. "Minnesota would have taken him , "
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..compared to the bozo they did hire. I think he did it let mIchigan know that pay cuts will not be happening again

interviewing on signing day is such an asshole move lol


>ive been out of the loop and dont really know what went down
>
>weird situation but i expect nothing less from that weirdo

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260. "yes, and unknown"
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sounds like he excused himself from the search rather than either side "passing"

so he chose, but it may not have gone his way had it played out

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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267. "reporting today is Harbaugh flew to Minny…"
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thinking the job was his and Minny was like, no, this is a basic interview.

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269. "letting facts get in the way of an agenda.. "
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how dare you

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289. "that would seem more likely"
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otherwise this is the weirdest head fake ever

  

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264. "It’s sad that you won’t let this silly point die when everyone else..."
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abandoned you lol

>I just wanted to point out an instance of a college coach,
>choosing to return to college rather than jump to the pros.

Everybody knows the jobs Harbaugh really wanted were the Raiders or the Bears, when they passed on him the Minnesota interview was a consolation prize just to save face.

After beating the Suckeyes he’ll have more job security in Ann Arbor than in Minnesota and that job was reportedly offering less money.

I still don’t see the similarity of an established successful 15-20yr pro coach entertaining stepping down to take a college at a school, in an area, he has no ties too. I could see the question if Tomlin was a USC alum or from the LA area but it would still be a silly move to make.

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268. "Reports said they never offered him the gig"
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and yes, dude is still holding on when the situations are night and day.

A guy who had his first head coaching job in college and now coaches at the same school he where he played QB removes himself from a coaching search when he finds out it wasn’t a done deal.. and the pay was likely less than UM.

yeah, great comparison

and dude said hit dogs when he had zero facts on this story.. lmao.

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270. "Minnesota just saving face, you don’t know Harbaughs real plans "
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The Tomlin debate is over . He’s perfectly safe in a job where he doesn’t have to produce. I don’t think he’s be successful in college anyway . But asking about the USC job wasn’t racism despite what 🦵 says


>abandoned you lol

Like the Rams abandoned you

You love the Buckeyes . Your favorite players are Ezekiel Elliott and Orlando Pace . Just stop. I’ll get you a jersey if you want

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271. "I don’t actually have a position in this argument…"
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the three of you are having, from the other post…but I do enjoy the discussion of coaching hires, in general. That said, it’s all over the place that the Vikings did not offer him the job. He went in there believing it was his, partly because he has ties to the new Minnesota GM…and that simply wasn’t the case. They just wanted to interview dude, like they did Patrick Graham, the day before. He then told Michigan that he was coming back and this wouldn’t happen again…he would be there for as long as Michigan wanted him. Lol…it reminds me of an episode of The Office when Michael had an interview at corporate, in New York. He thought because he had the most seniority of any of the branch managers, the job was his and the interview was a formality. He sold his condo and picked a replacement. Turns out, he was one of like 7 interviews. He didn’t get the job and had to go back to Scranton the same day.

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272. "Lol…nice edit"
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273. "LOL"
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Hey , I can admit when I'm wrong.

I think I made one or two mistakes last year too.

I'm not perfect like Tha Ruth

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302. "RE: LOL"
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Re: your comment about Pakistanis below

It’s so clear now why you ended up the way you did.
I pity you

  

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307. "For fucks sakes can y’all quit it with this? "
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>It’s so clear now why you ended up the way you did.
>I pity you

  

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274. "what did he say? lol"
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300. "Can’t possibly be worse than his latest reply "
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How a league of overwhelmingly white owners “allowed” a Pakistani to buy the jags

  

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275. "RE: Minnesota just saving face, you don’t know Harbaughs real plans "
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>The Tomlin debate is over . He’s perfectly safe in a job
>where he doesn’t have to produce. I don’t think he’s be
>successful in college anyway . But asking about the USC job
>wasn’t racism despite what 🦵 says
>
>
>>abandoned you lol
>
>Like the Rams abandoned you
>
>You love the Buckeyes . Your favorite players are Ezekiel
>Elliott and Orlando Pace . Just stop. I’ll get you a jersey
>if you want

I'm ambivalent on Zeke, Pace is cool, he still lives in the area and I've met him a few time.

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277. "YOU DONT KNOW HARBAUGH’S REAL PLANS!!!!"
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280. "lol"
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304. "LMAO"
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276. "Hey Siri, play It Takes 2 by Rob Base "
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256. "They are talking about Josh “the traveling QB salesman” McCown as"
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The next HC for Houston? Is he even currently a coach in the NFL? I thought he was coaching HS football somewhere.

  

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262. " I thought every team that started him was throwing games"
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263. "But if they do cool that means they can give Deion a HC job"
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265. "This will be the second year in a row they Houston…"
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interviewed McCown. This is more of an indictment on Houston, though. They want to do something “different”, reportedly. They also interviewed Hines Ward, this past weekend. Imagine if you are David Culley, though, for a second…you spend 25 years waiting for a shot, you get one 4-12 season and you’re done…and you know you will not ever get a shot, again.

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281. "Culley better get in on Brian Flores’ class action suit"
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282. "It's going to be older coaches"
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If no older coaches get in on the lawsuit I'm not sure how far it will go. You know no white coaches are going to speak up and I'm not sure young black coaches want to spend that political capitol.

If anyone joins its going to be the likes of Sherman, Fraizer, or Caldwell.

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285. "Ray Rhodes?"
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293. "Wow, that’s a name I haven’t heard or thought I about in a while"
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He was a great DC with the Niners and did well with the Eagles. I totally forgot he was the Packers HC for one season in 99.

  

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261. "Courtney Cronin saying Harbaugh came through, yesterday…"
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thinking he was coming in to sign the deal and the Vikings were like…nah, this just an interview, like all the other ones.

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266. "Broncos hire Packers QB coach as OC….it’s all coming together "
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279. "Think Elway was sober for this meeting?"
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286. "NFL Network reporting JAX close to bringing in former Vikes GM..."
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Rick Spielman and that he could be coming as a package with Doug Pederson as the HC. Damn.

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291. "Jags gonna Jag......lmfao"
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Can't wait to watch this blow up. What a shit show down there. Nothing against Spielman or Pederson but come the fuck on man. This is utter bullshit and we wonder why there's a lawsuit jumping off. You have one incompetent hire after another and you would think after this Urban Meyer garbage and having a toxic GM in Baalke you would welcome a chance to embrace a franchise icon coming off of a Super Bowl win only a year ago.

  

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294. "prevailing thought was that Larry Foote would go to Jax w Leftwich"
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this may inch him closer to the UM def coordinator gig, which...yes please

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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292. "damn Vrabel got some comp in our division as a coach now"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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298. "Pedersen done"
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288. "Rams OC Kevin O'Connell in line for the Vikes job, young white bols..."
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coming up

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295. "These owners talking reckless like there's not a lawsuit"
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296. "Still can’t believe a buncha billionaires allowed a Pak mf into their ..."
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Imagine how racist Shad Khan must be to gain their approval lol



>It begins. Fangs prolly sealed his fate, yesterday.
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303. "Has this ever played well here lmao "
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By Pak, everyone, he means Pakistanis

By extension he also means all Muslims. He’s done this for years and it’s never been okay

  

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305. "HEY CYREN, LOOK AMRITSAR WANTS YOUR ATTENTION"
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lol, no one cares pendu kutta. I didnt type any slur. I just questioned how one minority owner got into the circle




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316. "Nothing about this interaction was cool..."
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..I don't know what/whom instigated the long-standing feud btwn Amritsar and Guru, but it ends today.

Its 2022 and y'all still haven't figured out that its ok to disagree or not like each other without the back & forth.

Your peers in this community have clearly asked y'all to chill out.

*Guru, I've read your response about the use of the term "Pak mf." No matter how you try to frame that, its not cool. Its indefensible.

*Amritsar, your concerns are clearly noted, but this ain't the way.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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306. "a Pak mf?? "
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interesting choice of words

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308. "Pak is not a slur , there was even a Pak airlines"
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>interesting choice of words

And it’s used commonly in …you know what lol I don’t even care .


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310. "Pak mf def sounds like a slur when discussing racism"
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but I’m sure you meant well when you said it.

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313. "To someone unfamiliar with South Asian terminology, yea probably."
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>but I’m sure you meant well when you said it.

but I was disparaging him and I’m still wondering how he got their approval . There are Black and Asian billionaires desperate for an NFL team too

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314. "gotcha"
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317. "now, imagine how this reads when you try to tell Black men"
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what they should and shouldn’t be offended by.

keep cooking tho.. lol.

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319. "You right , that’s fair nm"
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>what they should and shouldn’t be offended by.
>
>keep cooking tho.. lol.
>
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321. "I appreciate this exchange."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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297. "Doug Pedersen to the Jags"
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299. "We get that Reich Vs Pederson matchup no one asked for lol"
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301. "NFL is really about to only have one black head coach. *smh*"
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Rooney Rule really worked wonders

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309. "RE: NFL is really about to only have one black head coach. *smh*"
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>Rooney Rule really worked wonders

That’s a publicity stunt rule and they’re getting caught again not acting in good faith to do what the rule intended. They need a back room, unlisted rule. Like roll up on the owners with ‘look here, assholes. We aren’t having this convo anymore. In 3 years, we need to have at least 8 black ass head coaches and no less than 16 black coordinators’. As soon as someone says ‘but but but..qualifications’, reply with Urban Meyer and all of the McVay related mfers who have gotten gigs without having to even be coordinators first. Or people in Andy’s coaching tree.

Aka they can’t keep letting random dudes skip the line straight to head coaching gigs while still having almost no black head coaches. And even after that, we will have to deal with black coaches eating too much of the blame when their teams don’t win so it won’t be over. Anthony Lynn for instance. He’s gone from the Chargers and what do you know…they’re still jerks who lose close games in silly ways and occasionally get their asses completely kicked in weird situations. Or Todd Bowles with the Jets too. Like those mfers have won anything since Rex was there. They still can’t get qb right, offensive lines have been shaky, and their GMS in general haven’t been exactly amazing.

  

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311. "its racism and just terrible ownership by some of these franchises"
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people always say these guys want to win but most forget that all these teams are winning financially.

and we now see some actually didn’t want to win.

but the amount if young white dudes who skip the line is glaring. Just shows that most
of these owners are living up to their name.

People wonder why the slave comparison is always made in football. Its because most owners still operate like only a white man is capable of leading Black athletes.

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322. "RE: its racism and just terrible ownership by some of these franchises"
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>people always say these guys want to win but most forget that
>all these teams are winning financially.
>
>and we now see some actually didn’t want to win.
>
>but the amount if young white dudes who skip the line is
>glaring. Just shows that most
>of these owners are living up to their name.
>
>People wonder why the slave comparison is always made in
>football. Its because most owners still operate like only a
>white man is capable of leading Black athletes.

Yep.

It’s also jealousy. To them, it’s ‘bad enough’ that so many of these dudes ‘make so much money’ to play the game now. Having them backdoor that with rich coaching contracts too? Some of these folks can’t take it. So yeah, cut your nose to spite your face type shit going on.

If we’re going in on it, some of these mfers can barely stand there being ‘so many black qbs’.

Meanwhile, if you’re within 20 feet of some of these coaches, you’re getting coordinator and head coach gigs PDQ. Even a cat like Kellen Moore is already knocking on the door of a head gig. It’s wild. But Dak sux, right? Meanwhile, some other qbs have some rancid performances on their records with minimal sustained scrutiny.

I recently saw a graphic with all of the sb winners on it. There 12 of 32 teams right now who have not won ONE SB ever. There’s several more teams that haven’t won in at least 20 years. It’s a wild graphic that tells a lot of stories. Ie: Green Bay is considered a well-run franchise. 1 Super bowl win/appearance in the last 20 years!? I know we have a post here about it but still..really!?

https://www.reddit.com/r/NYGiants/comments/skbg8k/awesome_graphic_of_super_bowl_history/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf



  

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312. "yeah a backroom mandate is the only way it'll work"
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you can try try and try but you cant force the owners to hire anyone. they have to want to do it.

the NBA looked at the same problem and you can tell there's a concerted effort to hire black coaches now.

neither league *has* to do anything to improve this issue, but only one actually *wants* to.

but hey it's like Future said, you do what you want when you poppin. and the NFL is poppin harder than ever.

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315. "players have way more power in the NBA"
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You get 2 or 3 stars on an NBA team who say they coach is ass juice and the owner is going to make a move.

DeShaun and JJ Watt tried to flex in Houston and JJ was let go and Watson is facing a civil suit and hasn’t played a down since.

The last HC also shipped Hopkins out for a bag of dicks and lost his damn job instead of catering to the best WR in the NFL.

NFL ain’t changing unless Black players really use that voice and most aren’t going to risk their career for inclusion in upper management.

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323. "thats why non-guaranteed contracts will never change"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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404. "all. of. this. nm"
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324. "Saints to interview Bienemy "
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325. "Dolphins hiring Niners OC Mike McDaniel as HC"
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https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1490462596675391491?s=20&t=Yeaox9lnU91kEwgJdWjggg

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326. "So the *doesnt call plays* excuse has to be dead, right??"
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This gotta be the third or fourth offensive coordinator that's been hired and DOESNT CALL PLAYS for the offense. Eric Bieniemy must be losing his fucking mind at this point.

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328. "these young white dudes eating lol, I guess everybody is trying to get....."
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the next Sean McVay/Zac Taylor

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329. "Apparently, dude refers to himself as multiracial…"
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his pops is black. I’ve legit never heard of him, until today.

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333. "so they hired Logic"
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337. "he's claiming 1 drop rule?"
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343. "I have to see a family photo"
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345. "what would the police think he was if they pulled him over?"
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348. "RE: what would the police think he was if they pulled him over?"
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Oh, they most def are going to give him a warning and tell him to have a nice day.

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344. "He's considered a "running game guru""
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He's credited for putting together the offense that's made the Niner's running back look so good the past few years. Like helping transform Mostert, formerly a special teams guy and Chip Kelley holdover, into a really potent weapon when healthy (which has been a problem).

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346. "he's another branch off the Mike Shanahan tree"
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347. "yeah, Shanahans have been making low-round RBs productive for decades"
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Kyle and his dad have always gotten production out of whoever at that position

funny to think McDaniel pioneered something in that department

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338. "49ers now have 9 draft picks ..so far"
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This is before any pick from a Jimmy G trade that could take it to 10 draft picks in 2022.

  

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327. "Colts hire Gus Bradley as DC "
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hilarious lateral move (at best). not Eberflus fault that Ballard assembled one of the worst pass-rush units in the NFL, and Bradley is not going to do anything schematically to change their impact (he doesn't blitz either).

Colts' successes or failures will be all on Reich and Ballard next season:

- Reich vouched for Wentz and let the players decide their own minicamp schedule (they voted to cut corners in the offseason and Indy started 1-4, imagine that).

- Ballard has spent four years drafting/acquiring a shit pass rush that gives up late leads. imagine you have 4 second-round picks you can only use on defensive linemen, and you end up with this group: Ben Banogu, Kemoko Turay, Tyquan Lewis and Dayo Odeyingbo.

- Ballard is also responsible for having *one* receiver make any impact in the last six years. Wentz is an albatross over the offense, but JFC this group is bottom of the league.

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330. "Texans in talks with Lovie Smith for HC position…"
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1490512207188168707?s=20&t=z0zC5vdzmAf_VUEtBAa7-A

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331. "I didn’t even realize he was DC there last year"
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332. "Bro, I fuck with Lovie…"
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I watched more than a few Illini games because of him and I honest to God, did not know he was with Houston, last year.

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334. "did *they* know he was there? why is he just getting considered now?"
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you figure an internal dude woulda been part of the initial candidate speculation. dude just popped up outta nowhere with the white beard.

  

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335. "This reeks of *hire the black guy for one season*"
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and then fire him so we can bring in someone white after we learn Davis Mills is a legit QB. That and the blowback if they hired a high school assistant coach (Josh McCown) over black candidates.

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336. "RE: did *they* know he was there? why is he just getting considered now..."
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>you figure an internal dude woulda been part of the initial
>candidate speculation. dude just popped up outta nowhere with
>the white beard.

I’m guessing his name didn’t come up a lot nationally cuz the Texans are a joke with not a lot of name brand stars or even high end fantasy football people.

But yeah, being in Houston…I knew damn well Lovie was the DC. And they were bending and trying not to break all over the place.

We know damn well why he’s getting an interview all of a sudden. And, at least for now, it’s a bad job. But it would check that box. So we’d have Lovie, Tomlin, and the dude coaching Miami now is ‘multiracial’ so he’s gonna get counted fo sho too.

Eric B will still be in KC, Leftwich will wait another year and I guess hope BA takes it to the house so he can have the Tampa job? The NFC South is falling off so I could understand that move.

  

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339. "My humble opinion is…"
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they were dead seat on McCown. I mean, dude has already had two interviews. Why would you interview him twice, THEN interview Lovie for the first time? They were gonna go with McCown, then the Flores lawsuit happened and they knew they couldn’t go run him out there. Otherwise, was the plan really to fire Culley and hire Lovie? Fuck no.

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340. "is McCown actually a thing?"
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341. "For Houston, yes…"
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he’s a Texas kid and they like him. He interviewed last offseason, before Culley got the job and twice, this cycle.

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342. "cool if he gets a job it paves the way for Deion"
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349. "Hiring Lovie…only the Saints remain"
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air offensive talent wise

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351. ""
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>air offensive talent wise

Right. And that's another piece of the puzzle to me. If the idea is that GOOD Black candidates need to get a fair shake, I want to get crazy and also expect that GOOD Black candidates aren't regularly having to take bad jobs just to get a job and help get the NFL out of hot water. And everyone here should know: showing up on Sundays with a bullshit QB is a great way to end up with a 'don't hire this dude no mo'-level bad record after 2-3 years.

It is one thing if you and the GM swing and miss on a QB (draft, free agency, whatever). It is another thing altogether to get handed a screwed up set of players with a shaky QB room and then you're asked to make some chicken salad..especially when you doing badly will get labeled by many of the excel meatheads as 'See? This is why you can't hire Black coaches! They don't win!'.

So hey..if Eric B doesn't see a path to a good QB, good offensive weapons AND a decent staff, I don't blame if he says 'I'm gonna stay over here with Andy and Pat and roll up hella stats'.

  

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352. "I don't disagree with anything you said..."
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>>air offensive talent wise
>
>Right. And that's another piece of the puzzle to me. If the
>idea is that GOOD Black candidates need to get a fair shake, I
>want to get crazy and also expect that GOOD Black candidates
>aren't regularly having to take bad jobs just to get a job and
>help get the NFL out of hot water. And everyone here should
>know: showing up on Sundays with a bullshit QB is a great way
>to end up with a 'don't hire this dude no mo'-level bad record
>after 2-3 years.
>
>It is one thing if you and the GM swing and miss on a QB
>(draft, free agency, whatever). It is another thing altogether
>to get handed a screwed up set of players with a shaky QB room
>and then you're asked to make some chicken salad..especially
>when you doing badly will get labeled by many of the excel
>meatheads as 'See? This is why you can't hire Black coaches!
>They don't win!'.
>
>So hey..if Eric B doesn't see a path to a good QB, good
>offensive weapons AND a decent staff, I don't blame if he says
>'I'm gonna stay over here with Andy and Pat and roll up hella
>stats'.

Leftwich basically had the same choice with a potentially great QB and an otherwise crap team and a crap GM in Jacksonville.

These guys have to weigh their options, take a chance with a HC job with a crap team that's doomed for failure and chill as an assistant but risk getting passed over and forgotten while these young white guys eat up all the jobs.

You look at a guy like Jim Caldwell who got a raw deal in Indy and a rawer deal in Detroit and at 67 will probably never get another shot. Then there are guys like Sherman Lewis and Jimmy Raye who were hot names as assistants for years but never got a HC shot.

Pep Hamilton was once a hot name that nobody talks about now.

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353. "Saints going with DC Dennis Allen"
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354. "I had forgotten he was HC of the Raiders 8-28 record"
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355. "He was a terrible head coach"
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But the Saints defense has been legit so i figured he'd atleast get the "transition from Sean Payton" job.

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358. "a black coach with that record would never get another HC job"
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>But the Saints defense has been legit so i figured he'd
>atleast get the "transition from Sean Payton" job.

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405. "thisety this. nm"
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366. "He was absolute dogshit as the Raiders HC"
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granted the rosters at the time weren't very talented, but he really seemed to do nothing but look confident on the sidelines.

He's a solid DC

  

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356. "Kyler Murray unfollows and deletes all Cardinals content (swipe) "
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Wasnt about to make a separate post but we can pretend this is Kliff Kingsbury/coach related. This cant be some sort of accident. He unfollowed the Cardinals and deleted any Cardinal related content from his page. Weird times man.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kyler-murray-unfollows-cardinals-on-social-media-deletes-all-franchise-related-pictures-on-instagram/

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357. "seems like contract posturing"
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Arizona has to decide on his fifth-year (2023) option this offseason; he probably wants that year picked up or an extension hammered out.

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359. "players are so weird these days in this social media era lol"
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360. "I forget some of these players are still basically kids. Ha"
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363. "social media really is the weapon of choice for most of these dudes"
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which is weird as fuck.

I want to like Murray but he seems a bit fragile mentally.

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362. "Probably a marketing rollout. I wouldn’t put much into it for now "
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364. "radio was wondering what the Lamb photo meant"
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but it all seems weird to me

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402. "Kyler mad at the team, feels like he's been made into..."
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the Escape Goat.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33282228/sources-relationship-qb-kyler-murray-arizona-cardinals-odd-place-amid-frustrations-sides

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403. "suspect"
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not sure who these sources are but Kyler played like absolute shit and he should just own that

seems immature when you look at his history of taking his ball and going home when things don't go his way (A&M, MLB)

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365. "who are the young black offensive gurus? I know we have former players....."
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Bienemy and Leftwitch and at 52 and 42 they are not necessarily "young" compared to some of these other coaches getting jobs.

It seems like most of the other top black candidates are on the defensive side.

Who are the young black non-players being groomed on the offensive side of the ball?

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367. "Feels like an okey doke"
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The path for black coaches for years has been on the defensive side of the ball just to get a job as a position coach or POSSIBLY as a coordinator.

When black head coaching hires became reality al the coaches had been brought up on that side of the ball.

Then the league swung to offensive heavy rules and now we have all these Shanahan and McVay coaches getting all the jobs. No black offensive coaches are being brought up in these coaching trees (unless you want to count McDaniel who just got the Dolphins job).

There are black offensive coaches out there though. But owners are reluctant to hand over the keys to coaching their quarterbacks to a black coach.

Jim Caldwell and Hue Jackson are the only coaches in recent memory who half ass got a chance and they both were done dirty.

  

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368. "well you have to see how people end up in those jobs"
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usually start as QC people
backup QBs
journeymen QBs
maybe they played at some rando liberal arts school (beli tree for example)
or they're coaches sons/other family

we just started getting a consistent amount of journeymen and backup black QBs

to benefit from nepotism were just now getting to the point where your Dungys/Lovies kids would be old enough to get into coaching. 20s/early 30s.

i heard Lovie today talking about black people dont really get the look for those QC jobs that get you started.

I'm sure there are some folks we dont know, but Leftwich felt very much like a beginning to me when he got the QB coach gig at Arizona a couple years ago.

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370. "Daboll, Sirriani, Stefanski & Arthur Smith weren't QBs, Hackett was..."
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nepotism...

Going back guys like Reid, McCarthy, and Harbaugh came up on the offensive side of the ball and were not QB's, Rhule wasn't a QB

there are quite a few black backup and journeymen QB's that have tried coaching you still need somebody to put you on

>usually start as QC people
>backup QBs
>journeymen QBs
>maybe they played at some rando liberal arts school (beli tree
>for example)
>or they're coaches sons/other family
>
>we just started getting a consistent amount of journeymen and
>backup black QBs
>
>to benefit from nepotism were just now getting to the point
>where your Dungys/Lovies kids would be old enough to get into
>coaching. 20s/early 30s.
>
>i heard Lovie today talking about black people dont really get
>the look for those QC jobs that get you started.
>
>I'm sure there are some folks we dont know, but Leftwich felt
>very much like a beginning to me when he got the QB coach gig
>at Arizona a couple years ago.


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369. "There will always be excuses"
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Sherman Lewis was the offensive coordinate for some potent offenses and never got a sniff.

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371. "Brian Johnson, Eagles QB Coach (34 years old)"
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I'm old enough to remember when he diced up Saban back at Utah

and early 40s is relatively young for a NFL HC (unfortunately minorities don't get that McVay fast-track, ever)

Marcus Brady, Colts OC (42) -- former CFL quarterback

Ronald Curry, Saints QB Coach (42) -- yep, UNC/Raiders Ron Curry

Pep Hamilton, Texans OC (47) -- closer to 50 but should get another shot, did good work with Mills and Herbert the last two years

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372. "Thanks I didn’t know about Johnson or Curry, good for him"
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373. "Incognegro!! Incognegro!! "
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Listen, I'm not here to discuss the levels of blackness but something doesn't smell right with this Mike McDaniel thing.

First he gives the "I don't see color" quote then the whole Pitbull, Will Smith thing. On top of that, the video of the call between Tua and him.

This is either some incognegro shit or his brother is Kit Ramsey.

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374. "i cant see him leading grown men."
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375. "Didn’t he almost get kicked out of the league as a player?"
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378. "anyone who doesn’t see color is on that bullshit"
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376. "I noticed they switched from saying black coaches to “minority”…"
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coaches to include Rivera and Saleh lol

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377. "It’s like those morons who complain “whites are now the minority!”..."
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In California and other places. When in reality they aren’t the minority. They’re just not the majority when comparing whites vs everyone else. It’s like they’re too arrogant to even recognize their own racism. They assume that all non-white people are some monolithic group, so when the total of Asians, Black, Hispanic, etc collectively may outnumber whites, they start to complain bc they’re now the “minority.” They act as if there’s some coalition of all non-white people. But then again, that’s par for course for white supremacists.

  

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379. "nothing worse than a white man acting like a victim of racism"
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when people are discussing racism

dude on a Steeler site in a Flores discussion said he experienced racism from some kids.. lol.

these dudes fragile as fuck

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382. "also a lot of hispanics are white."
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381. "They did this at one of my former employers before"
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We had to do our yearly diversity training and all of a sudden the definition switched up from cultural diversity to male/female diversity. Man, every single black person was giving the training the side-eye because we knew something was up.

Three weeks later they outsourced the department that had the most black folks working in it. Just like that company became super white and the ones that were left knew we better update the resume. Corporate America man.


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384. "they'll switch back when the numbers are looking better"
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383. "damn i feel bad for this dude."
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https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1491803557644812291

bro was just tryna get his racial ambiguity on and he had to get thrusted into this shit.

he still sounds like a kid.

  

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385. "dude is 38 years old and head coach of the Miami Dolphins…."
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I think he’ll be ok

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386. "This dude never claimed being black"
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387. "Hella awkward...."
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Yikes. Maybe should have just left that unsaid. He was basically saying he was passing and now he has to explain shit. To say out loud that he's never encountered racism personally is some shit too. But he says he can "relate" to it from his parents experiences.

  

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388. "RE: Hella awkward...."
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This dude hasn't considered himself black a day of his life. His answers also reflect he's never considered himself black. I would even go as far as to say he runs as far away from that side of his family as possible.

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389. "he tired of being reminded he got some black in him"
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391. "Lmao"
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393. "the way he said his Dad was Black sounded so disappointing "
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moms white

and my dads Black (shoulders slumps)

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400. "he made "Black" sound like the comedic missed trombone note"
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390. "Same guy that said he saw no red flags about the Dolphins. Lol"
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I wont attack his consideration of being black but that sounds like a man who is mad that he got outed as being part black....and has passed his whole life. Perfect guy for the job.

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392. "sounds like a man who was passing and got outed"
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the “a human being” is the whitest shit ever.

and those type of people also sound childish because they play dumb like race isn’t a thing in America.



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394. "I wonder if any of the players that he coached as an assistant knew he....."
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was biracial

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397. "I bet no one knew until we all knew"
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395. "He's a human being but his dad is black"
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Anybody catch that shit?

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398. "totally missed it.. lol. Good catch"
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396. "For the franchise that fired Brain Flores"
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that press conference seems just about right.

I don't watch football, but hopefully that dude knows his X's and O's on a high level because he doesn't look like someone that will command a locker room and be a leader of men. I'm going to assume he'll hire much older coordinators to serve as disciplinary figures.

Then again, perhaps race is just a sensitive subject for the man and that makes him uneasy, for whatever reasons.

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399. "Someone must have gotten in his ear for damage control. (swipe)"
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Prolly pointed out how bad it came off. Ha

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33269078/new-miami-dolphins-coach-mike-mcdaniel-extremely-proud-biracial

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401. "I don't feel bad for anyone that hasn't experienced racism..."
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..I don't believe him, either.

You can't tell me you have a job in the NFL and you haven't experienced racism. He may have the privilege of not being the subject of it, but that doesn't mean he hasn't seen it expressed towards others by his colleagues/peers.

This fool just allowed himself to be a billboard for the Shield. Its officially fuck Miami as an org, a team, and a motherfuckin' crew.


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406. "Have they said Kevin O’Connell’s name once during this game? "
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407. "And it’s obvious that McVay is calling the plays for the Rams…"
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but it doesn’t matter for some coaches

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409. "McVay absolutely handles play calling."
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Just like Kyle Shanahan and the guy that just got hired by Miami. But Eric Bieniemy gets knocked for "not calling plays" and Byron Leftwich gets knocked because he had the GOAT as his QB. Its bullshit.

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411. "100%"
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Flores' lawsuit is some thrown together mess of grievances but there is obvious bias and racism there. This example is blatantly obvious and the media plays right into it as well. It's not just the front offices. I'd be suing ESPN too.

  

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408. "who?? lol"
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what does he do????

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410. "THE 36y/o "offensive guru" that is going to coach the Vikings"
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412. "yeah. that was sarcasm"
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didn’t hear his name once or any oraise for his job as an offensive coordinator.

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413. "I know but Jay got us Snoop and Dr Dre at halftime so it’s all good…"
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I guess “we’re past kneeling”

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414. "But why 50? It should have been Ice Cube or Game over 50"
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415. "No idea I guess he made a deal with Illuminati for the messages…"
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he’s putting across on Power

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416. "leave Jay alone! "
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417. "Lmao!"
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Jay the next MLK! How dare you! He got us a seat at the table...i think....i guess!!

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418. "I so HATED when folks said that dumb shit..."
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>Jay the next MLK! How dare you! He got us a seat at the
>table...i think....i guess!!

he got us shucking and jiving to a Dre, Snoop & Mary halftime show meanwhile the NFL has 2.5 black coaches

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