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"2022 NFL Coach/GM Carousel "


          

It begins. Fangs prolly sealed his fate, yesterday.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1480197302295973891?s=20

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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i like what I've seen out of the Broncos this year
Jan 09th 2022
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didn't yall cape for this guy? yikes
Jan 09th 2022
2
I wonder where he'll pop up
Jan 09th 2022
7
It was high time they turned the play calling over...
Jan 09th 2022
9
Itll be interesting 2 see who they get, does Elway still call the shots?
Jan 09th 2022
3
Steelers GM stepping down after 2022 draft
Jan 09th 2022
4
The Denver firing makes no sense.. Teddy Bridgewater?
Jan 09th 2022
5
Elway gave up GM duties in 2020
Jan 09th 2022
6
That just makes the firing worse
Jan 09th 2022
10
      haven’t watched them much this year but yesterday they looked well coa...
Jan 09th 2022
12
Bridgewater was good when he was healthy
Jan 09th 2022
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      he's a stop gap and his arm is shot
Jan 10th 2022
22
Rumor is David Culley is going to be out
Jan 09th 2022
8
what a terrible organization
Jan 09th 2022
11
I feel like he was a placeholder anyway
Jan 09th 2022
13
right, once Houston knew they couldn’t play freaky Jason…
Jan 09th 2022
15
Placeholder for what though?
Jan 09th 2022
16
      The org was already in flux then the Deshaun thing really threw them…
Jan 09th 2022
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      Did they think hiring a Black QB would make DeShaun happy?
Jan 09th 2022
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It was a strange hire but I think he has done fairly well
Jan 09th 2022
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Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals
Jan 10th 2022
21
      RE: Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals
Jan 10th 2022
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Wrong post
Jan 09th 2022
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Schefty reporting Nagy gone
Jan 10th 2022
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…and Ryan Pace
Jan 10th 2022
26
Schefty reporting Zimmer and Spielman out
Jan 10th 2022
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Thank God!
Jan 10th 2022
31
Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores
Jan 10th 2022
25
WTF!! Can the chargers fire Staley and hire Flores?
Jan 10th 2022
27
This is dumb
Jan 10th 2022
28
What??? WHY???
Jan 10th 2022
29
Zimmer gone
Jan 10th 2022
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      yeah, saw that above after I saw the Flores post
Jan 10th 2022
39
...and the Iggles are getting their 1st round pick...
Jan 10th 2022
30
Eagles got the 15 and 16 picks plus their TBD pick
Jan 10th 2022
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      The Wentz trade was the biggest cap hit in NFL history
Jan 10th 2022
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           Huge gamble but it worked out to perfection
Jan 10th 2022
36
                there was a bunch of pick swaps in the last draft
Jan 10th 2022
45
WHAT.......THE..........FUCK
Jan 10th 2022
34
RE: Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores
Jan 10th 2022
41
I could see him end up as the DC for a middling squad
Jan 10th 2022
42
you all can stop being fake shocked about how this shit works lol
Jan 10th 2022
44
there's a post right today nitpicking Tomlin's career
Jan 10th 2022
63
I would fire Carroll and Hire Flores so fast if Russ were staying
Jan 10th 2022
46
All season they have expected playoffs
Jan 10th 2022
61
      that's an imaginary excuse
Jan 10th 2022
81
5 confirmed opening now
Jan 10th 2022
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RE: Las Vegas
Jan 10th 2022
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Left off Denver
Jan 10th 2022
49
      Thanks, I knew I was forgetting someone
Jan 10th 2022
55
smh.. these teams never learn. They lack patience with these Black coach...
Jan 10th 2022
38
It seems Miami picked Grier and Tua over Flores
Jan 10th 2022
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      yeah Flores was never a Tua guy...
Jan 10th 2022
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      Tua ain't good enough to save any franchise
Jan 10th 2022
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           I know that, Flores knows that but Grier and Ross may not know that
Jan 10th 2022
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reading *speculation* about Miami…
Jan 10th 2022
40
According to Ross today, he's not going after Harbaugh...
Jan 10th 2022
58
      That “I’m not going to be the one…
Jan 10th 2022
60
           He's the biggest donor the Michigan athletic department has...
Jan 10th 2022
62
                Yeah, I read that line as Harbaugh might leave Michigan but
Jan 10th 2022
69
                     Exactly...here's the full quote for context...
Jan 10th 2022
70
                          What if he went after Ryan Day in the ultimate villain move lol
Jan 11th 2022
98
Flores would fit nice with the Chicago Bears
Jan 10th 2022
48
is Frank Reich still living off Nick Foles' hot run 3 or 4 years ago?
Jan 10th 2022
50
He made the mistake of thinking Wentz could be good.
Jan 10th 2022
52
Yeah, the colts would have been better off if Rivers came back
Jan 10th 2022
54
      they called Rivers when Wentz had covid
Jan 10th 2022
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           Lmao. The first heir in line for the Rivers throne.
Jan 10th 2022
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he will start on a warm seat in 2022
Jan 10th 2022
59
IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking
Jan 10th 2022
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      RE: IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking
Jan 10th 2022
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      Wentz choked...you disagree?
Jan 10th 2022
85
      Reich clearly put his coaching career on the line for Wentz
Jan 10th 2022
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           He did course correct from last year
Jan 10th 2022
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Dolphins statement
Jan 10th 2022
51
They tried to call him incompetent in a fancy way
Jan 10th 2022
56
      You see it. The fucking Dolphins’ standards…smh
Jan 10th 2022
57
Gettleman retires…
Jan 10th 2022
65
retire? lmao.
Jan 10th 2022
71
one of the worst GM runs in history
Jan 10th 2022
83
Early rumor Lane Kiffin to Vikings...WTF???
Jan 10th 2022
66
Lol…just heard that same thing
Jan 10th 2022
67
oh please no
Jan 10th 2022
68
Bears hire Bill Polian to help with the coaching search
Jan 10th 2022
72
truly amazing.
Jan 10th 2022
73
to be old and white.. lmao
Jan 10th 2022
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Hilarious
Jan 10th 2022
89
Wow
Jan 11th 2022
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the guy best known for going to 4 straight superbowls & losing them all
Jan 11th 2022
100
Firing Ryan Pace was stupid.
Jan 10th 2022
75
what a squad. only a half dozen All-Pros away from going to the playoffs
Jan 10th 2022
84
Did he draft Trubisky?
Jan 10th 2022
88
Pace needed to go too.....
Jan 11th 2022
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Trubisky was the number 1 QB prospect on the board
Jan 11th 2022
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      Everyone worth a damn at the time knew it was doomed and a bad pick.....
Jan 11th 2022
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      Revisionism.
Jan 11th 2022
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           Once you bring in the Jets as your defense.....
Jan 11th 2022
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           Teams above the jets did not need a QB, and everyone after
Jan 11th 2022
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           lmao.. gotdamn
Jan 11th 2022
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           nah.. that was the ole big white QB with all the measurables list
Jan 11th 2022
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                ^^ This is revisionism bullshit.
Jan 11th 2022
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                     You keep bringing up one year like its his whole career
Jan 11th 2022
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                     Who was shocked?
Jan 11th 2022
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                          You just signed Glennon for 3/45
Jan 11th 2022
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                               ^^^^LIES
Jan 12th 2022
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                                    Those teams were drafting in the 20's when they traded up.....
Jan 12th 2022
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                                    They moved up to 10 and 12
Jan 12th 2022
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                     Nagy runs the same system as Andy!!!
Jan 11th 2022
110
                          You putting Nagy on the same level as Andy Reid?
Jan 11th 2022
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                               lmao at claiming a few bad teams were lining up to draft Trubisky
Jan 11th 2022
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                               I believe the Jets would have done that shit.....
Jan 11th 2022
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                                    RE: I believe the Jets would have done that shit.....
Jan 11th 2022
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                                         Jets probably would’ve because they suck at drafting QB’s too
Jan 11th 2022
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                                              Those comps are all good players....
Jan 11th 2022
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                                                   ^^^This is all cow shit and after the fact.
Jan 12th 2022
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                                                   Personally, it was racism when it came to Watson’s assessment
Jan 12th 2022
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                                                   49ers finessed the hell out of the Chicago GM
Jan 12th 2022
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      the internet disagrees with you
Jan 11th 2022
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           Sports illustrated writers’ opinion? SMH
Jan 11th 2022
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           No GM should be looking at an online scouting list for guidance
Jan 11th 2022
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RE: Firing Ryan Pace was stupid.
Jan 14th 2022
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Chargers need to fire Tom Telesco
Jan 10th 2022
87
Flores meeting with the Bears about head coaching job (swipe)
Jan 11th 2022
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I don’t want this guy.
Jan 11th 2022
115
      He was given an often injured undersized QB he didn't even want.
Jan 11th 2022
120
still waiting for the Joe Judge is fired headline
Jan 11th 2022
103
would think NY would want a crack at Flores
Jan 11th 2022
107
He gone
Jan 11th 2022
112
Joe Judge got a dozen emails, today, telling him he was fired
Jan 11th 2022
114
Owners were saying just how much they'd enjoy it
Jan 11th 2022
121
      Did I miss something? Is this real?
Jan 11th 2022
123
           Lol, nah, we were clowning his dumb ass rant…
Jan 11th 2022
124
Jay Gruden and Bill O'Brien, WTF??!! LANK
Jan 12th 2022
130
the Panthers have been doing some head scratching shit for a while now
Jan 12th 2022
131
      Panthers are a shit show in the making
Jan 12th 2022
132
      its like they're being reactionary trying to overcorrect their previous....
Jan 12th 2022
136
      lemme chill, that was a rumor
Jan 12th 2022
134
           Jimmy Haslam was a minority owner for the Steelers too....
Jan 12th 2022
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           yup.. one would think they would learn but I think its just a way
Jan 12th 2022
139
           Panthers GM Scott Fitterer came up in the Seattle organization...
Jan 12th 2022
138
                Fitterer didn't hire Rhule...Hurney did
Jan 16th 2022
158
My picks
Jan 13th 2022
140
I can't see Jay Gruden getting a HC job right now...
Jan 13th 2022
141
I could see Nagy being the KC OC if Bieniemy gets a HC job
Jan 13th 2022
142
Man, don't do the Vikings like that
Jan 13th 2022
143
Houston Texans fire head coach David Culley after one season(link)
Jan 13th 2022
144
David Culley out, in Houston. Man never had a chance.
Jan 13th 2022
145
This one might be more fucked up than Flores
Jan 13th 2022
147
Nah. He was obviously a stop-gap coach for the Watson situation
Jan 13th 2022
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      I get he was a stop gap but the Watson situation hasn’t been resolved
Jan 14th 2022
155
It was a fall guy gig to begin with
Jan 13th 2022
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right I don't know why people are pretending to be shocked lol
Jan 13th 2022
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No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much better
Jan 13th 2022
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      RE: No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much bet...
Jan 13th 2022
152
Culley was hired in January…
Jan 13th 2022
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I think he knew the deal and was good with it
Jan 14th 2022
156
David Culley fired.....
Jan 13th 2022
146
RE: David Culley fired.....
Jan 13th 2022
153
I'm I the only one not impressed by Kellen Moore?
Jan 17th 2022
159
McCarthy gets blamed for all the bad play calls
Jan 17th 2022
160
He’s going to fail and it will be glorious
Jan 17th 2022
161
I’m way more anxious about Quinn possibly leaving than I am Moore
Jan 17th 2022
162
He is Jason Garrett 2.0, just younger
Jan 17th 2022
163
And a punchable face!
Jan 17th 2022
164
I'm still trying to figure out how he became a thing.
Jan 17th 2022
166
Mike Mayock out, per Ian Rappaport
Jan 17th 2022
165
i wanted to give him another year. looks like they're cleaning house tho...
Jan 17th 2022
167
      wasn’t he basically a Gruden shill?
Jan 17th 2022
168
           wouldn't go that far but he admitted Gruden had final say
Jan 17th 2022
169
Sauces: Flores and Watson want to be a package deal
Jan 23rd 2022
170
I can't see that being true, neither of them have that kind of leverage....
Jan 25th 2022
173
Breaking: Sean Peyton retiring
Jan 25th 2022
171
Tayson Hill wept
Jan 25th 2022
172
will Jerrah try to cut a deal?
Jan 25th 2022
174
Leftwich to jags
Jan 25th 2022
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I think that may be partly why Brady is thinking about hanging it up...
Jan 25th 2022
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Possibly. Bigger reason is he's obviously got nothing left to prove
Jan 25th 2022
177
well that too...
Jan 25th 2022
178
Yeah. This and delaying the final epsiode of Man In The Arena
Jan 26th 2022
179
Congrats Lefty!!!
Jan 26th 2022
180

BrooklynWHAT
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1. "i like what I've seen out of the Broncos this year"
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they get the right QB in there that's 3-4 more wins this year.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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2. "didn't yall cape for this guy? yikes"
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The Lions and OC Anthony Lynn are expected to part ways following today’s game, sources say. One of the more respected leaders as a HC, it was never a good fit as OC for Lynn in Detroit. He had play-calling duties stripped earlier, and now both sides appear set to walk away.

  

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7. "I wonder where he'll pop up"
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Dstl1
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9. "It was high time they turned the play calling over..."
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to the offensive genius, Dan Campbell.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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3. "Itll be interesting 2 see who they get, does Elway still call the shots?"
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Friday the rumors were the Jags were looking at Leftwich. I think TL will be a good building block but he needs a good GM to build out the team.

Lewis Riddick was supposedly a hot GM name early last year to the point where the rest of the MNF crew basically said farewell early. I feel like they may have jinxed him.

I wonder if Bienemy will get a shot or has his time passed.

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4. "Steelers GM stepping down after 2022 draft"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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legsdiamond
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5. "The Denver firing makes no sense.. Teddy Bridgewater? "
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Is that really a QB who sets a HC up for success?

John Elway is the one who needs to go.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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6. "Elway gave up GM duties in 2020"
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and will probably be completely out this offseason, especially if the team sells

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10. "That just makes the firing worse "
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I get it
Old yt dude
But turnstile at QB
turnover at GM
Covid
Von missed 2020 and got traded
What were they expecting?
The team I saw yesterday…Drew Lock at QB with a chance to beat the AFC champs…looked well coached
They don’t have the talent to be better than their record.

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legsdiamond
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12. "haven’t watched them much this year but yesterday they looked well coa..."
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did they expect playoffs or a SB run?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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14. "Bridgewater was good when he was healthy"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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22. "he's a stop gap and his arm is shot"
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8. "Rumor is David Culley is going to be out"
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How could any coach be successful with that dumpster fire?


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legsdiamond
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11. "what a terrible organization"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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13. "I feel like he was a placeholder anyway "
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15. "right, once Houston knew they couldn’t play freaky Jason…"
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they just offered Cullen the gig. They knew they weren’t going anywhere.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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16. "Placeholder for what though?"
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There seems to be zero planning here.


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18. "The org was already in flux then the Deshaun thing really threw them…"
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>There seems to be zero planning here.

for a loop, they’ll definitely be starting over from scratch, unless Culley did something miraculous he was never going the have that job for more than a year

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19. "Did they think hiring a Black QB would make DeShaun happy? "
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just weird to hire dude for 1 year and fire him when they actually looked okay all things considered

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17. "It was a strange hire but I think he has done fairly well"
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He mostly played a rookie QB and it is a full on rebuild in Houston and I felt Houston played hard for the most part this season.

  

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21. "Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals"
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<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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CHASE SwAyZe
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79. "RE: Both of the Black coaches of pro sports teams in HOU got raw deals"
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Not sure this has ever happened in world history, but this is pretty interesting...........

Houston NFL Coach: Black Man
Houston NBA Coach: Black Man
Houston MLB Coach: Black Man
Houston Police Chief: Black Man
Houston Mayor: Black Man

BTW: Lifelong Houstonian here -- Google "Jack Easterby" and you'll see why the Texans are beyond repair......

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/10/ex-chaplain-jack-easterby-houston-texans-chaos-after-power-struggle-daily-cover

Not to mention this.......

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-obrien-was-trying-to-get-fired-by-texans-to-take-over-for-bill-belichick-in-new-england-book-reveals/

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20. "Wrong post"
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when I threw the rifle in the river,
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23. "Schefty reporting Nagy gone"
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26. "…and Ryan Pace"
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24. "Schefty reporting Zimmer and Spielman out"
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31. "Thank God!"
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and now that Flores is on the market, go get him Ziggy

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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25. "Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores"
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27. "WTF!! Can the chargers fire Staley and hire Flores?"
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Or at least try to get him as the DC?

This is shocking. I thought Grier would have been fired before Flores or both would be fired together.

  

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28. "This is dumb"
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They were actually ahead of schedule in the rebuilding process.


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29. "What??? WHY???"
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Ziggy....fire Zimmer right now and get Flores on the phone ASAP

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32. "Zimmer gone"
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39. "yeah, saw that above after I saw the Flores post"
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glad Zimmer and Spielman are out. Don't understand the Dolphins firing Flores. He's an excellent coach.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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30. "...and the Iggles are getting their 1st round pick..."
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That should work out great.

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33. "Eagles got the 15 and 16 picks plus their TBD pick "
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Not bad at all.

  

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35. "The Wentz trade was the biggest cap hit in NFL history"
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Iggles paid him +30M to go to Indy
Yuge gamble...looking like it paid it off
Only risk now is Howie is terrible at drafting.

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36. "Huge gamble but it worked out to perfection "
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Hitting on the 16th pick would just be icing on the cake at this point.

How did you get the Miami pick? Was that a trade back in the draft with Miami?

  

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45. "there was a bunch of pick swaps in the last draft"
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I think we moved up and then moved back...not exactly sure of the transactions

...but basically, one of those moves, MIA gave up the 2022 pick to move up to 6 in 2021...

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34. "WHAT.......THE..........FUCK"
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How in the what in the fuck??

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41. "RE: Cotdamn!!! Dolphins fire Brian Flores"
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>.

Several teams could/should dump their coach and get Flores. I’m down with that.

I wonder what Zimmer is gonna do..chill? DC for revenge? Get another middle of the road gig and hope his qb isn’t Kirky?

  

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42. "I could see him end up as the DC for a middling squad"
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44. "you all can stop being fake shocked about how this shit works lol"
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63. "there's a post right today nitpicking Tomlin's career"
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so I don't think the "NFL owners = racists" thing has gotten through to everyone on OKS yet

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46. "I would fire Carroll and Hire Flores so fast if Russ were staying"
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61. "All season they have expected playoffs"
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Now if you ask me that was very unrealistic but I am not surprised they pulled the trigger here

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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81. "that's an imaginary excuse"
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if he had made the playoffs he would've been fired for not going further

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37. "5 confirmed opening now"
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Miami
Chicago
Jacksonville
Minnesota
Las Vegas

  

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47. "RE: Las Vegas"
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The interim is a COTY candidate IMO
Gruden
Ruggs
...and just Raiders doing Raiders things...
Still made the playoffs
They should retain him permanently.

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49. "Left off Denver"
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55. "Thanks, I knew I was forgetting someone "
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38. "smh.. these teams never learn. They lack patience with these Black coach..."
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you can’t hire and fire your way to success.

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43. "It seems Miami picked Grier and Tua over Flores"
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I would expect Miami to go with an offensive minded coach in an effort to help Tua.

It never seemed like Flores wanted Tua or trusted him.

  

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53. "yeah Flores was never a Tua guy..."
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>I would expect Miami to go with an offensive minded coach in
>an effort to help Tua.
>
>It never seemed like Flores wanted Tua or trusted him.

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82. "Tua ain't good enough to save any franchise"
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90. "I know that, Flores knows that but Grier and Ross may not know that "
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Or Grier is too stubborn to admit it.

  

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40. "reading *speculation* about Miami…"
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apparently, the owner has a huge hard on for Harbaugh…wanted to hire him last time he was on the move.

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58. "According to Ross today, he's not going after Harbaugh..."
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/01/10/jim-harbaugh-rumors-dolphins-stephen-ross-brian-flores-comments

Dolphins Owner Stephen Ross Addresses If Team Plans to Target Jim Harbaugh

Dolphins owner Stephen Ross made clear on Monday that the team does not plan on trying to hire Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh back to the NFL, and to have Harbaugh succeed Brian Flores as Miami's coach.

“I'm not going to be the one who takes Jim Harbaugh away from the University of Michigan,” Ross told reporters.

Ross, a Michigan alumnus and booster of the football program, addressed possible Harbaugh buzz in the same press conference in which he elaborated on the team's firing of Flores.

Flores was let go on Monday after only three seasons, and despite winning 19 games over the past two years.

Harbaugh, the current Wolverines coach, has not coached in the NFL since 2014, when he was with the 49ers. However, in recent weeks, reports of Harbaugh's possible return to the NFL have intensified.

The former 49ers coach is once again on the NFL radar, The MMQB has reported. Bruce Feldman of The Athletic reported that Harbaugh could be tempted to make his return to the NFL, citing both Michigan and league sources.

Ross's comments confirmed a report from both ESPN and The MMQB, in which both outlets said Flores's firing was unrelated to Harbaugh.

According to ESPN, Flores's firing was related to deteriorating relationships with general manager Chris Grier and quarterback Tua Tagovailoa.

Harbaugh went 44-19-1 in four seasons during his time with 49ers, which spanned 2011–2014, making a Super Bowl appearance in his second season.

  

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60. "That “I’m not going to be the one…"
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to take Harbaugh from Michigan” line sounds bogus as hell, lol. All he did was leave the door open should Harbaugh “decide” to leave.

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62. "He's the biggest donor the Michigan athletic department has..."
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So I really doubt he'd be screwing us over, especially considering the above statement.

  

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69. "Yeah, I read that line as Harbaugh might leave Michigan but "
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I won’t be the one to hire him from Michigan.

  

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70. "Exactly...here's the full quote for context..."
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“I love Jim Harbaugh,” Ross said. “He had the opportunity once before to come to the Miami Dolphins.”

But, Ross added, “He’s at the University of Michigan as everybody really knows. That is the school that I graduated from and I’m very involved in it, and I’m not going to be the person that takes Jim Harbaugh from the University of Michigan. I hope he stays there. He is a great coach.”

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/01/10/dolphins-stephen-ross-fires-brian-flores-rejects-jim-harbaugh-talk/9158311002/

  

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98. "What if he went after Ryan Day in the ultimate villain move lol"
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(I have a feeling he leaves TOSU for the NFL in the next few years anyway.. esp if he wins a chip. Dude from New Hampshire isnt staying in Columbus Ohio for life. Just like Chip Kelly wasnt staying in Eugene Oregon for the rest of his.)

>“I love Jim Harbaugh,” Ross said. “He had the
>opportunity once before to come to the Miami Dolphins.”
>
>But, Ross added, “He’s at the University of Michigan as
>everybody really knows. That is the school that I graduated
>from and I’m very involved in it, and I’m not going to be
>the person that takes Jim Harbaugh from the University of
>Michigan. I hope he stays there. He is a great coach.”
>
>https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/01/10/dolphins-stephen-ross-fires-brian-flores-rejects-jim-harbaugh-talk/9158311002/

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48. "Flores would fit nice with the Chicago Bears"
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Defensive minded, young coach and young future QB. Hired a talented offensive coordinator

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50. "is Frank Reich still living off Nick Foles' hot run 3 or 4 years ago?"
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52. "He made the mistake of thinking Wentz could be good. "
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Colts and Reich did a good job with Phillip Rivers last year.
Carson Wentz has become a career destroying QB if people ride with him.

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54. "Yeah, the colts would have been better off if Rivers came back "
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64. "they called Rivers when Wentz had covid"
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I bet one of Rivers kids hung up on them

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74. "Lmao. The first heir in line for the Rivers throne. "
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59. "he will start on a warm seat in 2022"
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the slow starts to the season and his refusal to give up playcalling duties (as the offense tanked down the stretch) are going to be heavily judged after this collapse.

GM Chris Ballard as well. he cannot draft a defensive end to save his job, and yet he keeps trying.

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77. "IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking"
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They've been middling for a minute now
Obviously, Luck retired and they didn't have an heir apparent in the wings
Had a losing season following
Then rebounded with Rivers
...but just to be aight...
I would have preferred to keep Reich in Philly in hindsight with how Pederson worked out
I think he's a great coach
and IRT Wentz, that was the motivation for him going to Indy
They thought they could recapture his MVP 17' form
Wentz has mental issues
He's got all of the physical tools...but just can't be who he was 5 years ago
They would have been better off tanking given where they are today and the QB class of last year
Now they're stuck with Wentz, I don't see how that's on Reich...?

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78. "RE: IMO, INDY is a case study for tanking"
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>They've been middling for a minute now
>Obviously, Luck retired and they didn't have an heir apparent
>in the wings
>Had a losing season following
>Then rebounded with Rivers
>...but just to be aight...
>I would have preferred to keep Reich in Philly in hindsight
>with how Pederson worked out
>I think he's a great coach
>and IRT Wentz, that was the motivation for him going to Indy
>They thought they could recapture his MVP 17' form
>Wentz has mental issues
>He's got all of the physical tools...but just can't be who he
>was 5 years ago
>They would have been better off tanking given where they are
>today and the QB class of last year
>Now they're stuck with Wentz, I don't see how that's on
>Reich...?

so with a white coach its the player's fault? gotcha

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85. "Wentz choked...you disagree?"
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Reich went 11-5 with noodle arm Rivers
Had the reclamation project Wentz a W away from the playoffs
Everything isn't a social justice moment
Wentz choked.

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80. "Reich clearly put his coaching career on the line for Wentz"
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no way Indy makes that trade without Reich promising that he can fix Wentz. Reich is a good coach and the Luck retirement was unlucky, but ultimately he has never won the division and in 2 of his 4 seasons, he hasn't prepared the team to start the season (1-5 in 2018 and 1-4 in 2021).

also, Wentz's 2017 season was the anomaly. to be in your sixth year in the league and still making hero ball, game-losing decisions every-fucking-week is who is he is.

he's not broken and he doesn't have a mental block. he just wasn't that good to begin with.

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86. "He did course correct from last year"
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He actually did improve from dog$hit, to middle of the pack
Didn't happen in one season, but he did improve
<shrug>
Maybe mental issue wasn't the right term, more of a block
He looks terrified of getting hit
When he was on 17 and 18 he was way more confident
He's got the natural arm talent
Reich corrected the TO machine he was last year
IDK about writing him off just yet
Didn't work this year
GM needs to decide if they try again or move on...and that was the point of my post
Rivers wasn't a long-term solution
If they weren't committed to Wentz long-term
They should have just tanked in 2020
Rivers wasn't going to win a SB
and now you've got a long shot bet that didn't pan out in year one
As fun as it is to party on Wentz...they were real close to their goal this year

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51. "Dolphins statement "
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https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1480548522550300677?s=20

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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56. "They tried to call him incompetent in a fancy way"
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Could have easily cited a difference in "team philosophy" but nah they had to make sure to say he didn't meet their standards.

  

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57. "You see it. The fucking Dolphins’ standards…smh"
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when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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65. "Gettleman retires…"
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1480595389065699330?s=20

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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71. "retire? lmao. "
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83. "one of the worst GM runs in history"
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66. "Early rumor Lane Kiffin to Vikings...WTF???"
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I know extensions don't mean anything but seriously.

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67. "Lol…just heard that same thing"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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68. "oh please no"
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being a life long Vikings fan is hard enough...don't make it worse on us Vikings fans by bringing in this clown. Ugh.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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72. "Bears hire Bill Polian to help with the coaching search"
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Good luck Bears fans.


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73. "truly amazing."
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these dumb rich white men don't deserve fandom

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76. "to be old and white.. lmao"
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89. "Hilarious"
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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95. "Wow "
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"Mindless populism embodied by Trump and Sanders are like a malignant wart on our body politic"

  

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100. "the guy best known for going to 4 straight superbowls & losing them all"
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>Good luck Bears fans.
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75. "Firing Ryan Pace was stupid."
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Drafted :

Cohen
Jaylen Johnson
Roquan Smith ( possibly defensive player of the year)
Cmet
Fields
Montgomery
Mooney
Herbert..


He also brought in Mack, Robinson, and Graham.

Just like when they fired John Fox prior to firing Nagy, we are going to
be right back here in 4 years.

Pace wasn’t the problem....Chicago Bears culture is the problem....zero patience and
and the radio personalities are toxic as shit.

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84. "what a squad. only a half dozen All-Pros away from going to the playoffs"
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>Cohen
>Jaylen Johnson
>Roquan Smith ( possibly defensive player of the year)
>Cmet
>Fields
>Montgomery
>Mooney
>Herbert

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88. "Did he draft Trubisky?"
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92. "Pace needed to go too....."
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You should get fired for passing on Mahomes and Watson for Trubisky. Not only that he TRADED UP FOR TRUBISKY.

It's not like any of his other drafts were all that great either.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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93. "Trubisky was the number 1 QB prospect on the board "
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BY ALL SCOUTS. He was ahead of Mahomes and Watson. Trubisky was
going top 5/10 regardless of who drafted him.

So stop it.

Pace drafted the number 1 QB on the board is what a gm is supposed to do.
No one knew anything about mahomes or perceived him to be good. It’s the
same thing with Herbert.

Pace is not at fault if a top prospect doesn’t pan out.

And he made some outstanding draft picks. Smith is a major stud, and so are
Montgomery and Mooney..

Bears’ Qb issues did’t/don’t start with Pace. That has been an on going issue throughout
the history of the bears.

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94. "Everyone worth a damn at the time knew it was doomed and a bad pick....."
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PFF and Walter Football and analytics garbage outlets like that had Trubisky rated one but Sean Payton, Andy Reid, and a BUNCH of NFL scouts were looking hard at Mahomes and thought he had the most raw talent. They knew he had elite arm talent and could cook in their system. Watson was the real dividing player. Some had Kizer ahead of him.

You're talking about Trubisky like he was an Andrew Luck prospect. GTFOH.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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97. "Revisionism."
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Trubisky was hands down the number one prospect on all boards, and was
going to be taken number 3 by the Jets.

https://www.pff.com/news/ranking-the-top-10-qb-draft-prospects

Here is the official prospect list from that year. Trubisky is number 1, some
even had Kizer over mahomes and Watson.

So Pace moved up and took the number one guy, who people wanted at the time.
In fact, the following season the bears went 12-4, and Trubisky was giving high
ratings. The wheels feel off after that season.

So again your perception is bullshit, and pace did a good job drafting, because
the bears have a roster of talented players.

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101. "Once you bring in the Jets as your defense....."
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This is a wrap. The Jets. That makes your argument look even worse. Pace had to trade ahead of the other franchise in the league that sucks at evaluating and drafting QB's because they were going to take Trubisky?

I'm done.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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105. "Teams above the jets did not need a QB, and everyone after "
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the jets who needed a QB had Trubisky high on their list, which is why
Pace moved up. We can sit here and say how terrible Trubisky is all we want to,
which is true. However, in 2017, Trubisky was the number 1 QB prospect on all NFL
scouts’ list, and after the 12-4 season, he was highly rated as a great choice by the bears.

So yeah it’s easy to say that Trubisky is trash after the fact.....and to blame
Ryan Pace for all of it. But that’s not how things actually went down.

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106. "lmao.. gotdamn"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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102. "nah.. that was the ole big white QB with all the measurables list"
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Now I know white folks love a big white QB but he was not the best pick at the time

Scouting boards love to prop up guys like Trubisky. you have to be a fucking idiot to buy into that shit. Not you.. I mean these GM’s who love white QB’s for obvious reasons.

and Kizer? Where is he now? That is typical ND hype and its the reasons
teams like Chicago struggled for years drafting a QB. They slobber over measurable’s and damn near frown on actual game tape.

I didn’t trust Mahommes but Watson? Not sure how anyone could watch him vs Bama 2 years straight and not see franchise.

As someone who had to watch more Trubisky than I wanted since I live in NC, I was cracking up when the GM said every time Trubisky got in good things happened. What tapes did he watch? He was big and average at UNC.

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108. "^^ This is revisionism bullshit."
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Both Mahomes and Trubisky went to the pro ball in their second season and led
their teams to 12-4 records, and both teams went to the POs

Mithc threw for 3200 yards, 24 TDs, with a 94pct passer rating that season.

But the following season the wheels fell off. . That’s how that shit went down.

So was it truly a bad draft choice or simply bad coaching that lead to Trubisky’s
downfall. I’m not saying that Trubisky is on the same level as Mahomes, but
Mahomes plays for a great system under an elite QB coach. Mitch played under Nagy.

Ryan Pace should not be blamed for that.

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109. "You keep bringing up one year like its his whole career"
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Mark Sanchez also had a good season once or twice.

Point is.. people were shocked when Trubisky was picked and he wasn’t worthy of that pick.

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111. "Who was shocked?"
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Nobody in Chicago was terribly shocked, and the mock drafts were already out there
with Trubisky being the first QB taking off the board. It was just a matter of who
was going to take him.

Stop making stuff up. Hell, it wasn’t even a big QB draft class that year.
3 QBs taken in the first round. 1 taken in the 2nd, and 1 taken in the third.

And not only that, the Chiefs were interested in taking him as well.
People forget that they were trying to move up to number 5 in the draft by
trying to trade with the Titans. They took Mahomes at number 10. They even passed
on Watson.



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118. "You just signed Glennon for 3/45"
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here is the draft coverage. No one is discussing this pick like it was likely or
made sense.

Dude started 13 games.. went 8-5 and you gave up a ton for him.

It was shocking… and idiotic.

and did KC and Texans jump up to 3 and 4 to get QB’s?

Nah… they were smart and waited. You guys got gamed by the Jets and Browns 2 teams that would’ve SAVED you from making a terrible selection and giving up 4 picks

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127. "^^^^LIES"
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Both the Chiefs and Texans gave up assets to move up in the draft.

They didn’t wait.

Dude, please stop.

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133. "Those teams were drafting in the 20's when they traded up....."
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So they did wait. His point is they didn't panic and trade into the top 5.

For whatever reason the Bears traded up ONE pick because the 49ers spooked them and they thought the Jets might trade ahead of them.

Let that team make that dumbass trade. Don't be that team. They turned out to be that team.

The Jets turned around and did it for Darnold the very next year. LOL.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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135. "They moved up to 10 and 12"
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and didn’t give up 4 picks to get their guys

I said they didnt move up to the 3rd and 4th picks to get their QB’s

gotta read the words

no lies told

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110. "Nagy runs the same system as Andy!!!"
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Lmao....wtf man. What is it going to take for you to admit trading up for Trubisky was a shitty move.

I've never seen someone try this hard to defend an average ass GM.

Pace drafted Kevin White #7 in his first draft. That's a fire-able offense on it's own.


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113. "You putting Nagy on the same level as Andy Reid?"
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Now who is being illogical here? Matt Nagy is not Andy Reid, and doesn’t
know how to run a system, which is why he had to give up play calling duties.
I think he is better as just being a coach, not a developer of QBs

You can’t be serious.

What I’m telling you is that Mitch Trubisky was going to be the first QB taken
regardless Of the Bears taking him. More teams were interested in him over Mahomes
and Watson, and like I stated above even the Chiefs passed on Watson.

Several teams were interested in trading up to get Trubisky, even the Chiefs,
which is why Pace moved up to number 2 to get him.

This is what you fail to comprehend.

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116. "lmao at claiming a few bad teams were lining up to draft Trubisky"
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don’t believe the hype. Chicago got suckered into drafting a bum.

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117. "I believe the Jets would have done that shit....."
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But Andy Reid?!?!? Naw man. You're not about to convince me or anyone else that Andy was trading up for Trubisky with Mahomes and Watson out there.

If Mahomes would have went to the Bears and Trubisky had fell instead then who knows.....but I think Andy wanted Mahomes all along.

John Dorsey was pretty adamant about their scouting on Mahomes before and after that draft.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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119. "RE: I believe the Jets would have done that shit....."
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Both players were on their board. That is a fact. Watson was never
an interest for them. So had the Bears drafted Mahomes, the Chiefs
would have selected Trubisky or some other team before them.

Everybody wants to bullshit with how coveted Trubisky was that year.

Look, we know Trubisky isn’t good now. But during that draft year, and up to his
second season, that wasn’t the case. He was highly rated.


Everyone can point fingers AFTER THE FACT.




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122. "Jets probably would’ve because they suck at drafting QB’s too"
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check out the bleacher report and all the skeptics right after the pick

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2698963-bears-shock-the-world-draft-mitchell-trubisky-after-trading-up-to-no-2

Why couldn’t he beat out Williams at UNC?

Only started 13 games?

and yes, there is also some serious for Trubisky but we hear that shit every draft. Better athlete than Brett Favre.. whatever that means.

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125. "Those comps are all good players...."
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But not players you draft as the second pick in the draft. The Alex Smith pick proves that even more.

I look at Trubisky in the same way I look at Ryan Tannehill. You can win with him. But that guys isn't taking over a game. He's not a top 10 QB. Same with Derek Carr.

The fact that this dude is still defending this pick is insane. The idea that anyone else could get one over on Pace and actually think Mahomes was better is like unheard of to him. (But that's basically what happened).

Trubisky wasn't so much better than Mahomes and Watson that it required moving up to 2. I could see if he was THAT MUCH BETTER even in the scouting but he was a one year starter on top of that.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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126. "^^^This is all cow shit and after the fact."
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No one knew shit from shit on how those QBs would turn out. It was such
a weak QB draft, that ESPN wrote an article on how all three teams were taking
a huge risk on moving up to take Tru, Mahomes and Watson. All three teams gave up
a lot of assets to move up.

Im not trying to justify a damn thing. I’m telling the truth on what went on with that
QB draft class, and Trubisky was the top draft prospect of that class. You can
armchair QB all you want to.

Also, when both Trubisky and Mahomes went to the pro bowl, both of the bears
and Chiefs were predicted to go to the super bowl the following year. Those
are facts.

When the Bears went 12-4, everyone was saying positive things about Trubisky and
bears. That’s a fact.

So miss me with your revisionism bullcrap, and meaningless criticism AFTER THE FACT.

Ryan Pace moved up to take a number 1 QB prospect. That QB went to the pro bowl,
and the Bears made 2 PO appearances with him, and he has a winning record
as a QB. Unfortunately, he didn’t continue to evolve as a QB, so it didn’t work out.

THE END.

Half the teams in the NFL can’t say that about their QB.






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129. "Personally, it was racism when it came to Watson’s assessment"
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how does anyone watch this dude shit all over Bama to the tune of 800+ yards, 7 TD’s and 1 INT in 2 national title games and have questions about him as a pro?

Yet a guy with 13 starts has all the intangibles? FOH.

and bruh, every 2 years the Browns are the favorites to make the SB in offseason predictions. No one gives a shit about SB predictions fam.

and I provided a link where multiple people predicted Trubisky was a bust. It wasn’t revisionist. Some were high on him and some weren’t and yall fools fell for the hype.


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128. "49ers finessed the hell out of the Chicago GM"
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what really makes it crazy is Chicago had 4 QB’s on their roster already.

and while I still would clown them if they stood firm and picked Trubisky over Watson and Mahommes…

giving up 4 picks to move up to get him was insane.

You make that move for Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck. You don’t make that move for a kid that had 13 starts, went 8-5 and broke no passing records. They got hype off the hype

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96. "the internet disagrees with you"
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/24/2017-nfl-draft-quarterback-rankings

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If you can't understand it without an explanation

you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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99. "Sports illustrated writers’ opinion? SMH"
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Officials scouting list

https://www.pff.com/news/ranking-the-top-10-qb-draft-prospects

NFL SCOUTS LIST, Trubisky number 1:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2017/04/24/nfl-draft-quarterback-qb-rankings-scouts-deshaun-watson-mitchell-trubisky-deshone-kizer/100817778/

I see why you know nothing about football.

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104. "No GM should be looking at an online scouting list for guidance"
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this simply comes down to scouting and film

No one should ever draft a QB from Duke or UNC in the top 10 unless that dude has 2 Heismans, a National Championship and broke every NCAA passing record.



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157. "RE: Firing Ryan Pace was stupid."
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Pace was bad

Nagy was bad

The results are bad.


Your "analysis" of his transactionsleaves out how he would inevitably dig one hole while filling another.

I can demonstrate, if you like

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87. "Chargers need to fire Tom Telesco "
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His drafts have largely been duds, especially after the 1st round. His FA pickups have been ineffective as they are often injured and don’t contribute.

He lucked into Herbert due to the dolphins taking Tua. Trading back into the first round in 2020 to draft LB Kenneth Murray was questionable on draft day and it looks terrible now.

  

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91. "Flores meeting with the Bears about head coaching job (swipe)"
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https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1480933321190301698

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115. "I don’t want this guy."
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He is a defensive specialist at best, and doesn’t know
how to develop QBs


I want Leftwich, or the OC for the Ravens.

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120. "He was given an often injured undersized QB he didn't even want. "
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Saying he doesn't know how to develop Qbs is weird considering Tua was injured 50% of the time and is obviously not a franchise Quarterback. And he still pulled off two back to back winning seasons for a garbage franchise. Bears would be lucky to get Brian Flores. He can hire an OC for the develop a QB aspect. Bears are a defense first franchise.

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103. "still waiting for the Joe Judge is fired headline"
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what more can you do to be fired but literally QB sneak on 3rd and 11

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107. "would think NY would want a crack at Flores"
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but I think they have something weird going on in NYC when it comes to management and drafting QB’s.

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112. "He gone"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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114. "Joe Judge got a dozen emails, today, telling him he was fired"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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121. "Owners were saying just how much they'd enjoy it"
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if he never coached for them again.

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123. "Did I miss something? Is this real?"
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124. "Lol, nah, we were clowning his dumb ass rant…"
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from a couple weeks ago. So stupid.

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130. "Jay Gruden and Bill O'Brien, WTF??!! LANK"
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These two dudes are going to eff around and get gigs:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/09/report-panthers-target-bill-obrien-jay-gruden-as-next-offensive-coordinator/

I guess Gruden's recent racism "I would never change the name from Redskins" sounded the alarms and got him back on the coaching prospects list.


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131. "the Panthers have been doing some head scratching shit for a while now"
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132. "Panthers are a shit show in the making"
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One knee jerk reaction after another. Why in the world would they want these retread coaches is beyond sensical but they seem to be pretty rudderless.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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136. "its like they're being reactionary trying to overcorrect their previous...."
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decisions by going too hard on inexperienced college guys and now trying to bring in some "name" retreads and missing badly, the Gruden name is toxic and O'Brien was all but run out of Houston and left that place in shambles

>One knee jerk reaction after another. Why in the world would
>they want these retread coaches is beyond sensical but they
>seem to be pretty rudderless.

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134. "lemme chill, that was a rumor"
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but Tepper was a minority owner in Pittsburgh, I would’ve expected him to be a bit smarter at this ownership thing

I predicted firing Rivera would bite him in the azz..

and Charlotte sports fans are pissed.

This FO doesn’t have a clue

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137. "Jimmy Haslam was a minority owner for the Steelers too...."
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The Browns have been largely dysfunctional during Haslam's entire run so far as owner. Being around a well run organization doesn't necessarily mean you know what to do on your own.

So much about ownership and front office culture is based on instincts but also on real experience and vision. You have to be able to recognize the right traits in people to surround yourself with and it has to trickle down. The next person has to be able to do the same and so and so forth.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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139. "yup.. one would think they would learn but I think its just a way"
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to get into the inner ring so you can eventually own a team and show them how it should be done.

It really is like the sitcoms where the person downplays their SO or family members responsibilities and they trade places for a day and the dishwasher overflows with bubbles or the burger machine makes too many hamburgers.

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138. "Panthers GM Scott Fitterer came up in the Seattle organization..."
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and thought he was going to find the next Pete Carroll and it basically blew up in his face

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158. "Fitterer didn't hire Rhule...Hurney did"
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Fitterer inherited Rhule...

and I said this on my podcast weeks ago...

The longer Rhule stays, the higher chance that Fitterer will be fired with him...

  

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140. "My picks"
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Jay Gruden to the Vikings
Leftwich to the Jags
Flores to the Bears or Broncos
Zimmer or Nagy to the Dolphins

Could see Zimmer going to the Bears if they dont want Flores.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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141. "I can't see Jay Gruden getting a HC job right now..."
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>Jay Gruden to the Vikings
>Leftwich to the Jags
>Flores to the Bears or Broncos
>Zimmer or Nagy to the Dolphins
>
>Could see Zimmer going to the Bears if they dont want Flores.

Leslie Frazier may get the Bears job

Harbaugh may go to the Raiders

I could see Leftwich to the Jags but he needs a strong GM, maybe they give Louis Riddick another look, he was supposedly in the running for the last year

Flores may go to the Vikes, I think Nagy is done as a HC in the NFL

Miami might do Josh McDaniels

The Giants came out of left field with Joe Judge, they will probably try to go the established route with somebody like Doug Pederson

Broncos could do Bienemy or some young unknown offensive guru

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142. "I could see Nagy being the KC OC if Bieniemy gets a HC job"
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I am sure if Nagy goes to KC he will do well and then get another HC job.

  

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143. "Man, don't do the Vikings like that"
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Jay Gruden? I sure hope not. Was hoping for Flores but all the junk coming out of Miami makes him sound like the same thing the Vikings players didn't like about Zimmer so now hoping for Bieniemy.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

  

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144. "Houston Texans fire head coach David Culley after one season(link)"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/houston-texans-fire-head-coach-david-culley-after-one-season-201322833.html

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145. "David Culley out, in Houston. Man never had a chance."
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147. "This one might be more fucked up than Flores"
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What expectations did Houston have for this season? Houston played hard and wasn’t an easy win, their rookie QB played well and has potential. The last 4 games of the season and you could see the team going in the right direction, they just needed more talent.

  

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154. "Nah. He was obviously a stop-gap coach for the Watson situation "
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This isn't shocking, even if he did do a decent job.

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155. "I get he was a stop gap but the Watson situation hasn’t been resolved"
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It would be one thing if he was recently traded and Houston had a lot of upcoming picks but they don’t. Perhaps he gets dealt before or on the draft but Houston is still going to have to hire a coach who is willing to step into an unresolved situation.

  

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148. "It was a fall guy gig to begin with"
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The Watson stuff came up before he got the job right? If not then nvm

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149. "right I don't know why people are pretending to be shocked lol"
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150. "No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much better "
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for Houston so I thought they would give him two years since the Watson stuff still isn’t resolved.

  

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152. "RE: No doubt he is the fall guy but next season isn’t looking much bet..."
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>for Houston so I thought they would give him two years since
>the Watson stuff still isn’t resolved.

whomever gets that job will be starting from the ground up anyway. Most people had never heard of Culley before he got that job.

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151. "Culley was hired in January…"
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after Watson made the trade request, which was just after they hired the new GM. The allegations came out well after Culley got hired, but once they knew Watson couldn’t be put on the field, Culley was donezo.

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156. "I think he knew the deal and was good with it"
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After 25 years as an assistant coach, he knows how these front-offices move.

People are talking about his firing in the context of the lack of black coaches in the NFL but he's probably at home, waiting on the remaining $17M like https://youtu.be/eLl7dONoUT8

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146. "David Culley fired....."
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These owners aint shit man. There are MAYBE 5 consistently well run organizations in the league at this point.

Pittsburgh
New England
Green Bay
Baltimore
Kansas City

You could make an argument for:
Seattle
Denver
New Orleans
Dallas
Philly
Buffalo

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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153. "RE: David Culley fired....."
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top 5 are fine, don't think I'd argue the others except New Orleans and Buffalo, maybe Seattle. I'd add Tampa Bay for now with Brady anyways, will see if they turn back to Sucaneers after he retires but solid team and coach at the moment. Also LA Rams are well run, again maybe spending everything to win now may burn them in a couple years tho.

  

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159. "I'm I the only one not impressed by Kellen Moore?"
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Because he's going to get one of these opening.

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160. "McCarthy gets blamed for all the bad play calls"
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but when they work, it's all Moore :/

Moore called that last QB draw, which should be a disqualifying event for at least one HC cycle

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161. "He’s going to fail and it will be glorious"
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Let’s just sit back and watch the show

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162. "I’m way more anxious about Quinn possibly leaving than I am Moore"
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when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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163. "He is Jason Garrett 2.0, just younger "
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I wouldn’t hire him over Leftwich, Bieniemy or Daboll.

  

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164. "And a punchable face! "
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166. "I'm still trying to figure out how he became a thing. "
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Dude had ZERO coaching experience. The Cowboys offense is actually fucking LOADED with talent. I dont think its product of him being some secret offensive genius. For the life of me i cannot figure out how he became a "big deal" so fast.

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165. "Mike Mayock out, per Ian Rappaport"
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167. "i wanted to give him another year. looks like they're cleaning house tho..."
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I'm pretty sure Bisaccia is out, even though i think he deserves another shot. Carr possibly out too.

Mayock's whole deal is he was brought on has this draft genius but his choices have been shakey. Crosby, Jacobs, and Renfrow were all W's.
Cle Ferrel (his very first pick as GM) is a disappointment. Arnette didn't work out.. even before his off field stuff, Trayvon Mullen never came around and he's always hurt. Then there's Ruggs which you can't put on Mayock. he was coming into his own before the tragedy.

Looking at 2021 picks, some are at least respectable but no one stands out. Our first rounder Leatherwood is having a horrible rookie season. his strength seems to be committing penalties at the worst possible times

then of course the whole AB disaster

But i wanted to see Mayock operate without Gruden, since he had such a heavy say overall, it's hard to know what was on who

plus the other fucked up thing is if the Gruden stuff didn't happen and we *didn't* make the playoffs, Gruden would still be HC

  

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168. "wasn’t he basically a Gruden shill?"
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169. "wouldn't go that far but he admitted Gruden had final say"
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on personnel decisions

the official talking point is the power dynamic was 51/49 gruden. while it surely wasn't that... i'm pretty sure Mayock had a decent amount autonomy over draft decisions with Gruden needing to sign off

Gruden prolly would have just drafted a bunch of quarterbacks or traded for Drew Lock

  

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170. "Sauces: Flores and Watson want to be a package deal"
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Developing story: Deshaun Watson and Brian Flores have been in constant communication trying to navigate a scenario where they go to the same team,” stated veteran NFL reporter Jordan Schultz. “Watson ‘trusts and likes’ Flores and has been adamant internally that he’d like to play for him next season.”

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173. "I can't see that being true, neither of them have that kind of leverage...."
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>Developing story: Deshaun Watson and Brian Flores have been
>in constant communication trying to navigate a scenario where
>they go to the same team,” stated veteran NFL reporter
>Jordan Schultz. “Watson ‘trusts and likes’ Flores and
>has been adamant internally that he’d like to play for him
>next season.”

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171. "Breaking: Sean Peyton retiring "
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172. "Tayson Hill wept "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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174. "will Jerrah try to cut a deal?"
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175. "Leftwich to jags "
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3403451/jaguars-hire-former-jaguars-1st-round-pick-byron-leftwich-as-their-new-head-coac

I think he’ll work well with Lawrence.

  

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176. "I think that may be partly why Brady is thinking about hanging it up..."
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he probably doesn't want to start over with a new coaching staff

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177. "Possibly. Bigger reason is he's obviously got nothing left to prove"
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>he probably doesn't want to start over with a new coaching
>staff

  

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178. "well that too..."
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>>he probably doesn't want to start over with a new coaching
>>staff

he would probably rather go out with a little left in the tank instead of after a complete fall off

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179. "Yeah. This and delaying the final epsiode of Man In The Arena"
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...all point to Brady retiring. I thought he would come back for one more year but its looking more and more likely the GOAT actually hangs up the cleats. 70+ year old Bruce Arians calling the offense doesnt sound too enticing.

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180. "Congrats Lefty!!! "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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