De’Marvelous , as in Derozan, is on absolute fire right now, and would get my vote
as MVP if the voting were to take place today. Curry and Durant have cooled off
a bit, due to their teams being hit with Covid. And Harden is carrying the
Nets as of late. Plus the Bulls were the first team to really get hit hard with Covid,
but they still continued to perform at a high level.

Derozan is the best 4th quarter player in the league ( stats don’t lie), and he hit two last second game winning shots on consecutive days, and is the only player player in NBA history to achieve such a feat. Plus the Bulls are in first place in the Eastern Conference.

The Bulls are built for the present and the future, but our interior defense is still
horrid, and we are given up too many points. Winning games with last second shots
will not get us far in the POs. That’s my only gripe. We have to fix our interior defense
or it will bite us in the ass in the post season. We are getting killed on the glass,
and we are giving up way too many points in the paint.

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and you’re focused on Lavine. Go hang out with Vex with all that
fan of a player type stuff.

You sure you’re a true bulls fan?

If the Bulls don’t offer him a max, I’m not sure what you’re going to do.

Your approach is becoming corny.

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Your post reads like he's talking about an opposing player from a hated rival.

But nope, you, being you, threw a tantrum because he had the audacity to praise a player on your own team.

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Our interior defense is too weak. We are exactly like like Billy’s Chris Paul
OKC team. That team was a beast in the 4 quarter, and had a hand full
of closers. The starting lineup was focking ranked top 5 in clutch points.
It was a guard heavy system, but soft in the interior, and it hurt them in the POs.
Galinari makes Vuecvic look like Alonzo Mourning.


This team is almost exactly like that, and the interior needs to be upgraded
in order to truly compete for a championship.

This is why I’m against maxing Lavine. I don’t put him on that Giannis
level, and it would hurt our payroll tremendously where they wouldn’t be
able to make any big moves in the near future.

Patrick William is going to be a stud for us, and Coby White is turning into
a prolific player before our very eyes. We are not going to have room for everyone,
and I would rather have a true prolific all around big.

The Christian Wood situation is going to be very interesting. He seems to be on the
out with Houston. I would rather have both Wood and Levert over giving Lavine
a super max....or something similar.

Now if Lavine comes and is willing to take something lesser, than I’m all for it.
But we all know he wants top 5-10 money.

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On a lot of the Bulls podcasts I listen to, before Coby White started playing well these last few games,
the talk was around using both him and Patrick Williams to land another wing before the trade deadline (Harrison Barnes was a popular name).
I'm not sure where I stand on that as of yet.

I really want to see the Bulls force teams to choose between LaVine and DeRozan.
I still think the offense revolves around your turn, my turn iso ball.
Or maybe I'm missing the minutiae of what Donovan is doing.

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NBA Trade Buzz: Should Bulls go for Harrison Barnes or Jerami Grant?

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The Grant rumor doesn’t make sense, because he left Denver, a contender at the
time, to be the main option in Detroit. I doubt he would be interested in going
to Chicago to become the fourth option. Plus he has zero upside compared
to Williams and White, pieces we would have to give up to get him.

I don’t like Barnes either because he is 29, and isn’t known for his defense,
and he isn’t a player that we need. He is known for his offense, and we have
plenty of offense.

We simply need a big. That’s all. Williams and White are way more valuable with
all star upside, and possibly superstar upside with Williams. They are present and future
pieces.

Let’s not be the White Sox here, who went all in last season by trading Nick Madrigal
for pitching that they didn’t need, and to chase a World Series that they weren’t ready for. Nick Madrigal is a young stud, with the ability to hit every pitch, and was a main
cog in the offense. He tore his hamstring, putting him out for the season. Instead of
the White Sox being patient, they made a desperate move and messed up the second
half of their season. They sucked in the second half and were bounced early in POs
Now they have a hole at second base, and don’t look destined to get to the World Series in the future.

Don’t do the same thing with Patrick Williams...Hopefully, Jerry learned from his white
Sox mistake. We saw what happened when they they got desperate last year
around the trade deadline. We immediately sucked after the trades were made.

We are in an excellent position right now, and we have the pieces for the present and the future. We simply need a solid big, and that can be done by moving draft picks
and a few fringe players.

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>We simply need a big. That’s all. Williams and White are way
>more valuable with
>all star upside, and possibly superstar upside with Williams.
>They are present and future
>pieces.

Pulled this from @mkhoops:

"Are you expecting Patrick Williams to ultimately develop
into a player who is better, similarly tiered, or worse than
guys like Jerami Grant or Harrison Barnes?

I ask for obvious reasons, but to me, I think he’ll end up
being a similarly tiered role guy like Barnes and Grant,
which is why I’m all for trading him now if you can get the
finished version of him now."

We simply need a solid
>big, and that can be done by moving draft picks
>and a few fringe players.

Ha. What draft picks?

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... is if you think Grant or Barnes makes the Bulls a true title contender. If you think one of those guys gives the Bulls a real shot against the Warriors, the Suns, the healthy Bucks, the complete Nets? Then yeah, you pull the trigger and deal Williams. I'm just skeptical that either does that... in which case, keeping the Williams lottery ticket-- or saving that ticket for a more enticing trade-- makes sense.

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The future picks we got from Cleveland if I’m not mistaken for Lauri.

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I wouldn't want Grant. He'd just crowd DeRozan's space. He's also just too goddamn expensive. I'd rather keep Patrick Williams-- or, if I'm trading him, go for someone who's a better fit than Grant.

In disbelief that I'm going to praise Harrison Barnes here, but he'd be a pretty good offensive win now piece in that he'd stretch the floor for DeRozan, for LaVine dribble drive, for Vucevic. The offense would absolutely improve. And while Barnes isn't doing much defending in Sacramento right now (who can blame him?), he's big and physical. Might struggle in iso on a switch against an elite playmaker, sure. But as he showed in Golden State, if he's the fifth best guy on the floor, he can serve a purpose.

My concern would be more about his price-- you couldn't just deal Derrick Jones, Troy Brown, and a first for him. The contracts wouldn't match. You'd like to throw in Coby, ideally, but the Kings have a gajillion guards already. Again, they'd probably ask for Williams. And I don't think Barnes makes enough of a difference to come off Williams already imo. If it was 25-year-old Barnes, maybe. But the relative lack of switchability in the playoffs might render him only playable in spurts.

Someone I *would* come off Williams for is Myles Turner. That'd be an absolute slam dunk. Williams, Jones, McKinnie, and a first for Turner? Shit, I'd throw in a pick swap or something too. I'm a big believer in Turner. He'd space the floor on offense, and he'd be a monster defensively. I don't know if I'd go *this* far, because offensive chemistry is good, but there's a world in which you can deal Vuc in a three team deal, get Turner to replace him, and have an extra 5-6 mil available for an additional piece. Not saying I'd necessarily do that... but I'd stroooongly consider it. Turner would be such a great fit with Zo, LaVine, DeRozan, and Williams next year too.

Other than that, I think there are smaller pieces that would cost less that would make the front court improve, both defensively and in terms of versatility. Guys like Kelly Olynyk or Larry Nance almost certainly wouldn't cost too much but would help shore up the roster. Maybe a guy like Josh Richardson, who could work out but wouldn't cost much if he didn't.

But I wouldn't want Grant. I think Barnes would be fine but probably not for the price. If you're gonna have to give up Williams in a trade, may as well aim for Christian Wood or Myles Turner. And if those don't work, look for low-cost assets.

(But, of course, I'm not a GM. The fuck do I know? lol)

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That would position us well for the future and the present. His ability is insane,
and he has the same age trajectory as the other young players on the team.

I’m all for operation Christian Wood, or Bagley, Plumlee, and Zubak.
I don’t care too much for Myles.

I even like the Jones dude on the Kings, and the rookie center for Miami who
has been killing. There are some nice bigs out there who could give us
10/10 and rim protection.

I just hope the bulls don’t do something desperate that would muck up
the present and the future.

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at the beginning of the season i didnt think so. i hoped for a deep playoff run. figured they would need another piece but man all they do is win. im not saying i expect them to win it but to paraphrase rose "why cant these bulls win a championship?"

Vucevic play something focking defense, man. Can’t just let a player
walk into the paint like that.

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That kid’s offensive game is unlimited.

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said he wants to make his debut at "home" bc the fans deserve it

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and drops to being in the top ten for three pointers for the season, he'll still have value, especially if Klay comes back with a good deal of impact.

What a scary team.

I suppose I could answer my own question by watching some Warriors games, but does Wiggins play good wing/perimeter defense? That'll be key when the playoffs come around I would imagine.

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He definitely has shown the propensity in the big moments and the big assignments to take on tasks defensively and do what needs to be done…

… but he still somehow has negative win shares on the season! Only -.1, which is his best to date, and his defensive analytics are positive for the first time in his career in other metrics… but he’s got the lowest defensive plus-minus of any major contributor on the roster. Which is weird!

I know plus-minus in general can be a noisy stat, but he’s never once had a positive defensive plus-minus season, even with the Warriors, so it’s hard to believe it’s *all* noise. It may just be that his lapses, which are far less frequent, happen earlier in games— or perhaps happen in less important games. Or maybe he just really turns it off once the Warriors have built a huge lead or when Draymond is off the court. The last sentence there would be my guess, to be honest, but it’s hard to say without really deep diving.

But it’s genuinely strange that he’s played nearly the same number of minutes as Dray this season, only played 103 minutes of basketball this year without Dray, and has such a lower box plus minus than Dray. lol. (If anything, this underscores the incredible impact of Dray, my easy choice for DPOY this season.)

Still, despite all that, yes, in the big moments and on the big assignments, when the eyes are on and the team needs him defensively, Wiggins is delivering. Which is definitely more than could be said early in his career (or even two years ago), and has been crucial to the success of the Warriors without Klay.

But I’m still pretty blown by his defensive metrics being, while a career best for him, still fairly mediocre. Obviously some noise there, but it’s weird enough that I figured it wa s worth pointing out. Maybe a Warriors fan on here has some insight.

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in terms of consistency.

steph has lowkey been pretty erratic for a good stretch now (and the team is deep enough to overcome it). wigs has been steady eddie night in and night out.

I hate to see him end up in his 30s with no jumper and still relying on his athleticism (which is absurd )

His vertical and motor is insane

Here’s a slo mo video I took



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and Steve nash has now blown 3 games in a row with his asinine management. the entire arena was wondering wtf he was doing. they need to get this bimbo out of here and hire a real coach.



>De’Marvelous , as in Derozan, is on absolute fire right
>now, and would get my vote
>as MVP if the voting were to take place today. Curry and
>Durant have cooled off
>a bit, due to their teams being hit with Covid. And Harden is
>carrying the
>Nets as of late. Plus the Bulls were the first team to really
>get hit hard with Covid,
>but they still continued to perform at a high level.
>
>Derozan is the best 4th quarter player in the league ( stats
>don’t lie), and he hit two last second game winning shots on
>consecutive days, and is the only player player in NBA history
>to achieve such a feat. Plus the Bulls are in first place in
>the Eastern Conference.
>
>The Bulls are built for the present and the future, but our
>interior defense is still
>horrid, and we are given up too many points. Winning games
>with last second shots
>will not get us far in the POs. That’s my only gripe. We
>have to fix our interior defense
>or it will bite us in the ass in the post season. We are
>getting killed on the glass,
>and we are giving up way too many points in the paint.
>
>

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be nasty as a 6th man. glad to see it. he's put in the work. and he's a legit starter-level talent in the league now, in his 3rd year. he's added elements of steph's game (the off ball movement, the step backs, the footwork to get to those catch and shoot 3s off handoffs and split action screens), general warriors ish (cutting without the ball, passing, screening), and improved his own shit (tempering his tendency to over-dribble, being decisive in attacking the rim, utilizing that stupidly quick first step).

2 years ago, even last year, folks were calling for the dubs to chalk him up as a failed pick. he is now a suitable stand-in for either of the warriors HoF guards. so they can load manage, absorb a few minor injuries, etc.




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still think that's gonna be a L, since I don't even think Ja was there the first time around. Still... good.

Cavs win and I'm going to put a new agenda on the board.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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I don't think he'll be an all star (maybe especially as a replacement), but still...dude went from traded for KLove to being with a horrid franchise to basically a max-paid role player who had LOOOOOW expectations on a team with Steph & co.

It's cool to see.

I hope nobody is hating on it anywhere. I'd feel the same about anyone who clawed their way out of being considered a bust.

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from the field but the rest of his number are right around his career averages.

He came on with so much hype but just ended up being a very good player instead of an all-timer. I think it will still be tough for him to be an all-star this year.

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So hitting his career averages while also playing alongside Steph, Dray, etc is a huge win.

I doubt he’ll be an all star but it’s certainly possible given his team has the best record. Given the weird year…absolutely possible there’s a good amount of replacements this season.

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it.

3 game winning streak:

- Trailblazers
- Timberwolves ( no Russell or KAT)
- Kings

It’s amazing at age 37 Lebron is killing these bum ass teams

FOCK OUTTA HERE.

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Talk shit about the 20-19 Lakers all you want I guess but uhhhh…yeah. It’s impressive. Like, beyond impressive. Never been done before, historic, ridiculous, etc.

He’s 37. And still doing this.

Hating on excellence is some 2008 OKP shit, I swear.

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LeGM is, but I think that topic has been covered enough here. Because the Lakers are the Lakers, they will find a way.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, still no AD in the lineup.

They really shouldn't have fucked around with what they had other than figuring out how to get Buddy on the team.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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>LeGM is, but I think that topic has been covered enough here.

Is it the problem though? I mean, when you look at results: LeGM's moves in Cleveland led to a championship; LeGM's moves in L.A. led to a championship.

Not exactly the worst results.


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at age 38 Michael dropped 50 points.

This is a rerun to me.

And who was Lebron facing at center? a third string back up in Jones, because
Holmes, Thompson and Metu were out.

Brown had a 50 point game the other day, and it was barely talked about....but
let’s talk about Lebron and the Lakers beating up on bottom dwellers.

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>at age 38 Michael dropped 50 points.
>
>This is a rerun to me.

Yea - MJ had some breakout games as a Wizard, but he was never performing this consistently at a high-level; he was never playing MVP-level basketball (as LeBron is doing right now and did last year).

Nobody has played this elite this late into their career, including Jordan.

Not debatable.

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Mike had 8 40 point games at the age of 38+, and one was a 50
point game. 5 days after turning 40, he dropped a 40 point game.

At the age of 40 Jordan avg 20/5/5.

And Jordan did all that while playing with Popeye Jones and Kwame Brown.
There was no other top 75 greatest player on that team.

The level of difficulty was greater with Mike.

Go sit down somewhere, please

You are wrong.

Holler at me when Lebron turns 40 and drops 40 and avg 20/5/5
without other top 75 greats.

You lose again.

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He was playing at an allStar level at the age of 40

And didn’t have 2 75 greats playing with him.

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>He was playing at an allStar level at the age of 40

Was he at 38?

What Jordan did in Washington was impressive. He was so great that he could go for 20/5/5/ in his sleep. But he wasn't doing *this* - not even close.



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At 38 he avg 22/5/5

At 40, he avg 20/5/5

What are you talking about?

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And that's fine - because he was impressive. he just wasn't shattering precedents like LeBron is doing.

The thing that gets missed in the MJ/LeBron debate is the totality of work that LeBron carries. MJ had the ultimate specialist sidekick (Pippen) to do all the all-around duties so that Jordan could largely specialize as a volume scorer and GOAT-level two-way player.

But LeBron is just different in that he has it all - and does it all (even in year 19). Some have referred to Bron as the next gen blend of Michael & Magic - because you can't really compare anyone to him. Nobody has scored at this elite level while also being this elite of a passer/facilitator. Jordan didn't pass/rebound at this clip and was never asked to carry the multi-faceted burden to this degree (largely because he had the luxury of Pip as an elite swiss army knife to take care of that). Jordan also never shot the ball long-range this well - could never play all 5 positions (and dominate all 5 positions) like this. Nobody in the game's history has been able to lock down Kevin Garnett and D. Rose in the same playoffs with this kind of unprecedented versatility.

He's different.

It's just never been an apt comparison because Jordan is more in the Kobe/KD prototype of doing every well, but really having the DNA of an unstoppable volume scoring specialist. LeBron does that - but he just does so many other things.
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The year mike played PG he avg 32/8/8 . He won MVP
and DPoY that year. This was before Pippen and Jackson
offense change. Mike

Lebron never avg 32/8/8 as a PG running the offense.

Lebron went 30/7/7...but that ain’t 32/8/8 now is it?

Mike did.

So Mike was a GOAT scorer and GOAT distributor simultaneously.

Stop lying and learn your history.

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and no - MJ was never a GOAT-level distributor like LeBron.

MJ couldn't play and guard all 5 positions like LeBron has done.

There are clear differences.


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Mike is far superior than Lebron at being a scorer and a distributor at
the same time. 32/8/8

You said Lebron had to focus more on facilitating so he couldn’t
be a scorer.

Mike had 7 triple doubles in a row that season.

Mike could do both!

32/8/8.

And Lebron has zero DPOY....And Mike by far is the elite defender
with more all defense teams made.

Stop lying.

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>The year mike played PG he avg 32/8/8 . He won MVP
>and DPoY that year. This was before Pippen and Jackson
>offense change. Mike
>
>Lebron never avg 32/8/8 as a PG running the offense.
>
>Lebron went 30/7/7...but that ain’t 32/8/8 now is it?
>
>Mike did.
>
>So Mike was a GOAT scorer and GOAT distributor
>simultaneously.

DOES THAT MAKE FAT LEVER A GOAT DISTRIBUTOR????

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU????

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Lebron quit on his teams 3 times after losing.

A loser in Cleveland, left

Beaten by the Spurs, left

Beaten by Warriors, left

Michael retired after winning, and when Orlando beat
him he came back stronger....with the same team.

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But it's also not what I mean.

You said MJ was dropping 40 at 38 like that was similar...and it's not because he had years off in between. That's my point. All the rest of this is nonsense.

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>it.
>
>3 game winning streak:
>
>- Trailblazers
>- Timberwolves ( no Russell or KAT)
>- Kings
>
>It’s amazing at age 37 Lebron is killing these bum ass
>teams
>
>FOCK OUTTA HERE.

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tried to get too cute, you see guys not touching an inbounds pass to keep the the clock from starting at the end of the game but I'm not sure it works the same on a defensive rebound and they clock had been started and by the time the ref realized it had to stop the clock and figure out who had possession, Fox had never officially touched the ball even though no Laker was around so it became a jump ball situation

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