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"OKPW: 2022, we comin for you, *****!"
Sun Jan-02-22 07:37 PM by jimaveli

  

          

Reigns has the rona but hopefully he’s fine.

Brock is enjoying himself and is now the Raw champ. Lashley vs Lesnar is gonna happen and it’s gonna be GREAT as long as Brock plays ball.

Toni Storm flew home and quit WWE and the internet doesn’t know why yet. We shall see/I hope she’s okay. She’s 26.

Charlotte and Becky are holding belts still. So is Britt Baker.

I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept that he can’t help himself with certain things and people. I know to take his anger over that stuff/those people with a grain of salt so I can enjoy the rest of his stuff.

We still have Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and others back from retirement mostly doing good stuff.

Random indy stuff is going down. ROH is gone-ish.

Wrestle Kingdom is coming too. Shibata and Will are back!? Nice.

NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out their kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids come out of it better off eventually. The tv exposure is a double-edged sword methinks in the complain festival environment.

Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re too self-aware to not have a plan of some kind with this. We shall see. And what are they going to do with all of these doggone still free agents!?

Last thing for now before we head towards BD vs Hangman this week, good tag team rasslin is happening on both AEW and WWE.

  

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thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?
Jan 02nd 2022
1
TK is weird on shit like this
Jan 02nd 2022
2
yeah he doesnt seem to understand the media game of it all
Jan 03rd 2022
9
RE: thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?
Jan 03rd 2022
3
RE: Lyons
Jan 03rd 2022
4
It's a weird situation
Jan 03rd 2022
5
RE: OKPW: 2022, we comin for you, *****!
Jan 03rd 2022
6
Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:
Jan 03rd 2022
7
      RE: Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:
Jan 03rd 2022
8
           I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?
Jan 04th 2022
12
                RE: I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?
Jan 04th 2022
13
                     I think a lot of that was cemented with the deathmatch
Jan 04th 2022
14
Not a good sign that I keep forgetting about Wrestle Kingdom
Jan 04th 2022
10
I agree with everything you said
Jan 04th 2022
11
      SPOILERS
Jan 05th 2022
17
Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG
Jan 05th 2022
15
I’m calling another draw
Jan 05th 2022
16
RE: Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG
Jan 05th 2022
18
Hangman by judges decision
Jan 05th 2022
19
well nvm they were straight up brawling
Jan 05th 2022
20
As soon as I saw the judges, I knew Hangman was going to win…
Jan 05th 2022
21
Brutal, a blast. They should do it every month.
Jan 05th 2022
23
Not like this Jericho, not like this
Jan 05th 2022
22
you mean to tell me he doesn't have jet black hair???
Jan 05th 2022
26
man they cussing a lot on TBS lmao
Jan 05th 2022
24
Mo’ WWE releases
Jan 05th 2022
25
fuck them for getting rid of Regal
Jan 05th 2022
27
      There was zero point in firing Regal
Jan 05th 2022
30
           RE: There was zero point in firing Regal
Jan 06th 2022
37
           telling that the power struggle starts AFTER a "cardiac event"
Jan 07th 2022
55
           You spoke too soon haha
Jan 06th 2022
46
                Wouldn’t be surprised if SDR is outta there next
Jan 06th 2022
47
                Ha. Of course he was canned.
Jan 06th 2022
48
                     If Joe is cleared, I want him wrestling
Jan 06th 2022
49
                          IF Joe is cleared, there's a whole host of dream matches to be had
Jan 06th 2022
51
                               the last time i tried to watch RAW was like 2017
Jan 07th 2022
56
                                    The way they just nerfed him to Brock, man…
Jan 07th 2022
57
                                         he seemed like a throwback in all the best ways
Jan 08th 2022
60
                                              What makes him even greater is that he doesn't need a Gary Hart
Jan 09th 2022
61
                                                   Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns
Jan 09th 2022
63
                                                        RE: Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns
Jan 09th 2022
64
Aaaaaand Fenix just broke his arm on live TV
Jan 05th 2022
28
Nah, that seemed like the planned finished
Jan 05th 2022
29
Good point
Jan 06th 2022
32
The table spot and the title change were planned...
Jan 05th 2022
31
Malachi is not hitting for me and it’s bumming me out.
Jan 06th 2022
33
      I like Black, but the lights out stuff only works in the ring entrance
Jan 06th 2022
34
           It’s bad and the crowd doesn’t know what to do with it either
Jan 06th 2022
36
                Lol.
Jan 06th 2022
39
                     The entrance is the thing that really works for me
Jan 06th 2022
41
Watched it again. Dude landed **right** on his elbow.
Jan 06th 2022
35
      Why did they replay it like 4-5 times?
Jan 06th 2022
40
           Apparently his arm isn't broken, just badly dislocated. Whew.
Jan 06th 2022
42
                id rather break my arm than dislocate my elbow 100 times out of 100
Jan 06th 2022
43
                Just saw that. How fortunate!
Jan 06th 2022
44
Dynamite 1/5 : TBS Debut
Jan 06th 2022
38
you are damn right about that last line
Jan 06th 2022
45
2.0 isnt bad
Jan 06th 2022
50
WALTER makes everything better
Jan 06th 2022
52
      Steiner is good enough to actually make someone on his way out imo
Jan 07th 2022
54
great pacing and format to go along with blah content
Jan 07th 2022
53
So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match
Jan 07th 2022
58
RE: So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match
Jan 08th 2022
59
Battle of the Belts wasn't exactly Clash of the Champions...
Jan 09th 2022
62
Adam Cole is #1 ranked?
Jan 09th 2022
65
well this couldnt have started any worse
Jan 12th 2022
66
so of course the rest has been great lol
Jan 12th 2022
67
      lost a little steam with Matt Hardy
Jan 12th 2022
68
           and I dont believe Sammy could beat up Daniel Garcia
Jan 12th 2022
69
                i was right. hes just not for me.
Jan 12th 2022
70
                     If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW
Jan 13th 2022
71
                          Punk is giving a masteclass in how to do a PROGRAM
Jan 14th 2022
72
                          RE: If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW
Jan 15th 2022
75
                               its been done for a minute.
Jan 16th 2022
77
was Adam Cole always this flabby?
Jan 15th 2022
73
RE: was Adam Cole always this flabby?
Jan 15th 2022
74
he looks terrible physically imo.
Jan 16th 2022
76
NXT name generator at it again: WALTER is now Gunther Shark
Jan 19th 2022
78
Oh, and is the NXT name generator broken or if not if gives WALTER...
Jan 19th 2022
79
      Incredible
Jan 19th 2022
80
I’m headed to Dynamite tonight boys!!!
Jan 19th 2022
81
NICE!!!
Jan 19th 2022
82
Cardona and Effy have been having an epic feud.
Jan 19th 2022
83
damn. i wanted to go and couldnt find a road dog :(
Jan 19th 2022
85
      He was at Harpos too
Jan 19th 2022
86
mask up! AEW doing big rona numbers
Jan 19th 2022
84
Dope! Have fun.
Jan 19th 2022
87
Dark and Dynamite, Rampage is live Friday but I’m out of town
Jan 19th 2022
88
ok we getting F bombs on TV
Jan 19th 2022
89
I was there ringside
Jan 20th 2022
92
      What did the asshole yell at Moxley? Couldn’t make it out on TV
Jan 20th 2022
93
           i saw somewhere: "get that drunk out of the ring"
Jan 22nd 2022
95
                and by "somewhere" i see i that i mean Tiger Woods' recap smhlol
Jan 22nd 2022
96
thank god for the Booker of the Year
Jan 19th 2022
90
So I’d say it’s almost guaranteed Gargano shows in AEW next week
Jan 20th 2022
91
Dynamite was, easily, the most fun I've had at a wrestling show
Jan 20th 2022
94
ive been saying it for like a year
Jan 22nd 2022
97
Nice!
Jan 25th 2022
99
they having a spelling bee on Raw right now lol
Jan 24th 2022
98

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1. "thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?"
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the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have black friends" energy.

one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to hotshot some up to that level.

on the women's side idk how much a bone she has to pick. its real diverse on that side and Jade is getting a super push.

i also read her comments to mean she doesnt think Brandi looks out for any of us at all.

random aside from that
- idk where the WWE found Nikkita Lyons at but my god. talk about thick. they need to get her in some better ring gear though it looks like she's in bubble wrap. she could be legit though. looks athletic af on her IG.
- Big E got hosed his entire run.
- i think its lame Brock has the belt again but he seems a little more into it than usual
- they missed a trick not getting Beth Phoenix into some hot brood vampire outfit.
- Sheamus beating Ricochet/Cesaro 1v2 after his partner got injured was actually dope, even though they should've adjusted the finish. I rarely enjoy Sheamus.

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2. "TK is weird on shit like this"
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I don’t know why he feels the need to tweet. He always ends up saying some ill-advised, petty shit. Also, merely naming all the black wrestlers on the roster is not going to address the concerns. She’s not the first person to say this stuff either. Tons of people have.

He needs media training as it is. There was this bit of weirdness a few months back…

https://www.cagesideseats.com/platform/amp/aew/2021/11/11/22777201/tony-khan-all-women-wrestling-shows-very-bad-answer-aew-money-nwa-empowerrr


>it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.

Keith Lee will solve a lot of their problems if they sign him and book him right.

  

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9. "yeah he doesnt seem to understand the media game of it all"
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3. "RE: thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?"
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Mon Jan-03-22 12:11 AM by jimaveli

  

          

>the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity
>issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have
>black friends" energy.
>
>one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens
>personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs
>some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.
>
>on the women's side idk how much a bone she has to pick. its
>real diverse on that side and Jade is getting a super push.
>
>i also read her comments to mean she doesnt think Brandi looks
>out for any of us at all.
>
>random aside from that
>- idk where the WWE found Nikkita Lyons at but my god. talk
>about thick. they need to get her in some better ring gear
>though it looks like she's in bubble wrap. she could be legit
>though. looks athletic af on her IG.
>- Big E got hosed his entire run.
>- i think its lame Brock has the belt again but he seems a
>little more into it than usual
>- they missed a trick not getting Beth Phoenix into some hot
>brood vampire outfit.
>- Sheamus beating Ricochet/Cesaro 1v2 after his partner got
>injured was actually dope, even though they should've adjusted
>the finish. I rarely enjoy Sheamus.

I hope Swoll gets a shot to end up being great and she kills it somewhere. Impact keeps on showing reasonable wrestling. Maybe she can do that up.

Brandy? Man, I don’t know that lady but she’s never come off as amazingly likable. Still, it sucks that she’s going to get looks and/or comments whenever black folks have an issue in AEW. What is she actually for real in charge of?

I don’t know what to think of the Tony part of this stuff. Tony is a rich kid more than he’s any race in my mind. I could see him having all sorts of blind spots even when he means well. If he keeps his ears open and tries to make things right, cool. Zoomed out, this mfer came out of nowhere, unassed mountains of money and created a whole ass wrestling company and now LOTS of people have somewhere big to work in the US other than WWE. And besides Jericho, the group they started with was a parade of dudes that most of the average US rasslin watchers had never seen. Okay, they got Moxley pretty early too but c’mon now..you get what I’m saying here. AEW is basically an expensive as hell indy. For that, I’m probably going to lean on ‘give this dude a chance’..at least for now. And the way my mind works, he’d have to completely step in it with a tweet for me to even consider turning on him cuz fuck Twitter in general. Too many people are on there parsing words and dying to make up something to ‘care about’ negatively.

I just hope race stuff doesn’t derail all of the good they’ve done so far. And really, we all know it’s kinda shitty if it turns into ‘grab a random black person and push them down people’s throat cuz…yeah, black peoples are kewl with us over here! Yessir they are!’. I would like to see some more Jay Lethal tho! He’s close to his last days in-ring and deserves his flowers for turning into a really good wrestler.

Man, the first reply you got from pretend is IT..KEEF LEE in AEW could and should be a damn party if dude is healthy and pretty much even kinda sorta in-shape. And maybe it would keep the pitchfork folks at bay at bit. Since we’re here, what about this? If people who are claiming to be ‘done’ with TK right now still watched WWE after the Booker T/HHH shit, they aren’t serious anyway. Booker T heavily experienced and obviously ready to roll and they hosed the shit out of him after HHH basically called him a jailbird jiggaboo for months going into that Mania. Lee could give them a shot to redo that angle and then have the semi-racist dude show up AND GET HIS ASS COMPLETELY KICKED. Ala what should’ve happened to Haitch.

Big E man? Yeah, he got jobbed. He might be screwed if they’re desperate to ‘create a spark’ or whatever. And all of the ‘everything sucks and I’m sad’ propaganda online plus Rona/live attendance stuff didn’t help. I don’t see how he gets the title back anytime soon. He’d be a damn good time in AEW too. Premature typing! I’ll stop here.

  

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4. "RE: Lyons"
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Holy moly! WWE is taking it all the way with all of these good looking human beings they keep finding. She’s another one. That’s for sure. Toni Storm is a party of positive bigness too. This lady is more of that if that’s even possible.

>the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity
>issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have
>black friends" energy.
>
>one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens
>personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs
>some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.
>
>on the women's side idk how much a bone she has to pick. its
>real diverse on that side and Jade is getting a super push.
>
>i also read her comments to mean she doesnt think Brandi looks
>out for any of us at all.
>
>random aside from that
>- idk where the WWE found Nikkita Lyons at but my god. talk
>about thick. they need to get her in some better ring gear
>though it looks like she's in bubble wrap. she could be legit
>though. looks athletic af on her IG.
>- Big E got hosed his entire run.
>- i think its lame Brock has the belt again but he seems a
>little more into it than usual
>- they missed a trick not getting Beth Phoenix into some hot
>brood vampire outfit.
>- Sheamus beating Ricochet/Cesaro 1v2 after his partner got
>injured was actually dope, even though they should've adjusted
>the finish. I rarely enjoy Sheamus.

  

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5. "It's a weird situation"
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Honestly, I understand it. At the beginning of the COVID Daly's Place shows, the women's division was essentially her, Britt Baker, Nyla Rose, and Shida. Now it's big enough to require two titles, and she can't even get into the tournament for the second. Jade Cargill's taken her spot, and there's likely to even more talent coming in once all the other NXT/WWE no compete clauses expire (Mercedes Martinez is just the first). However, as others have said, the Women's Division is actually pretty diverse, so it did come off sounding like sour grapes.

>the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity
>issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have
>black friends" energy.

Yeah, TK completely bungled the response. You'd think being the scion of Shad would give some saviness, but apparently not.

>one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens
>personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs
>some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.
>
There are clearly issues. Like you said, Hobbs isn't quite there yet, and needs more time to be on the World title level. They obviously see ton of potential in Dante Martin, but the kid is only 20 and still looks like he's 12, and needs more to time to develop. The Acclaimed could be something fairly soon. Lee Moriarty clearly has a shit ton of potential as well. I like Lio Rush, but it's not clear how committed he was to AEW even before this (and he was the one who immediately called on TK to apologizie) or to pro wrestling in general, given his many retirements. And, you, he's **is** really tiny. Smaller than Darby, even.

I think the best short-term solution is Jay Lethal. He's obviously super-talented and can be super over. But I think he's only been on TV twice since they announced his signing.

I do find it weird that she tried to say that WWE has been demonstrably better at inclusivity . Especially since literally the day after she made the comments, they killed the completely bungled Big E run. WWE, like every other major federation, doesn't have a very good history when it comes to Black champions.

The comment that got lost in this is her saying that the company doesn't have enough structure. Which is usually the Jim Cornette POV. While I think the lack of structure does occasionally have drawbacks (see: Cody and the Young Bucks in the last year), it's also the reason that generally most of the people on the roster seem pretty happy while they're there. You might not get the pay-offs of WWE, but you get forced into doing REALLY dumb shit either.

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6. "RE: OKPW: 2022, we comin for you, *****!"
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>I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept that he
>can’t help himself with certain things and people. I know to take his
>anger over that stuff/those people with a grain of salt so I can enjoy
>the rest of his stuff.

I'll say it again: he sticks to older stuff and he's an amazing fount of knowledge. He's just insufferable when it comes to commenting on most modern product. As with most cases, his nick-names aren't nearly as clever as he thinks they are, and hearing him whine that FTR don't win enough matches gets really old.

>NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out their
>kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids come out of it
>better off eventually. The tv exposure is a double-edged sword methinks
>in the complain festival environment.

They really should put NXT back onto the Network/Peacock only. Trotting out most of these not-ready-for prime time players is embarrassing. The WWE can probably make better use of the two-hour slot on a cable network. Right now, it's losing rating battle to L&O reruns.

>Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re too self-aware
>to not have a plan of some kind with this. We shall see. And what are
>they going to do with all of these doggone still free agents!?

They've certainly been spending the last few weeks establishing Wardlow laying waste to everyone. So they could do the Brodie Lee thing and have Wardlow completely annihilate Cody and to turn him the biggest face in the company. They finally split up him and MJF, making MJF an even bigger mega-heel in the process.

Or they could go the other direction, and finally have Cody use the Pedigree against someone super-popular on the rise (like Hook), and cause the whole arena to riot.

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7. "Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:"
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>
>Or they could go the other direction, and finally have Cody
>use the Pedigree against someone super-popular on the rise
>(like Hook), and cause the whole arena to riot.

  

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8. "RE: Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:"
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>
>>
>>Or they could go the other direction, and finally have Cody
>>use the Pedigree against someone super-popular on the rise
>>(like Hook), and cause the whole arena to riot.
>

Wow. That would be good. The ‘I don’t get that I’m a heel (wink)’ heel CAN be big fun. And if done right, you take advantage of how marks get mad about things now. I think about 97/98 self-righteous Bret Hart as a prime example.

It’s dangerous tho. And when a show like AEW gets to this point, it could work so far counter to how they started out: a company that was made to have good matches and ‘serve the fans’. Now they have to trust the ‘fans’ to get that having a BIG ASS HEEL is one of the best ways to serve the fans. Because then, some babyface somewhere gets the rub of taking out that heel at some point.

But do the Twittery folks who think AEW is the white knight saving American wrestling from the ultra evil big money corporation that is WWE get this? Or no? Maybe we will see!

  

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12. "I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?"
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>It’s dangerous tho. And when a show like AEW gets to this
>point, it could work so far counter to how they started out: a
>company that was made to have good matches and ‘serve the
>fans’. Now they have to trust the ‘fans’ to get that
>having a BIG ASS HEEL is one of the best ways to serve the
>fans. Because then, some babyface somewhere gets the rub of
>taking out that heel at some point.

Because Hangman being the guy to come back and take him out seems like that.

>But do the Twittery folks who think AEW is the white knight
>saving American wrestling from the ultra evil big money
>corporation that is WWE get this? Or no? Maybe we will see!

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13. "RE: I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?"
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>>It’s dangerous tho. And when a show like AEW gets to this
>>point, it could work so far counter to how they started out:
>a
>>company that was made to have good matches and ‘serve the
>>fans’. Now they have to trust the ‘fans’ to get that
>>having a BIG ASS HEEL is one of the best ways to serve the
>>fans. Because then, some babyface somewhere gets the rub of
>>taking out that heel at some point.
>
>Because Hangman being the guy to come back and take him out
>seems like that.
>

Yep. But look at how that went. Corny (who has hated Omega for a good while) and lots of the internet couldn’t take it. All of a sudden there was lots of Omega hate flying around when, at least to me, it was obvious that he was going out of his way to be an unlikable, terrible, and/or cowardly heel. He gave Hangman a big heel target to take out. And even the Bucks had to ‘stand by’ and let it happen when the time came. But entirely too many people acted like that story was somehow ridiculous for a wrestling show. I didn’t get the confusion at all.

To make it even more clean, he got beat then went the fuck away!

We hear a lot about how wrestlers now focus too much on ‘having good matches’ as opposed to telling stories and playing their roles. But, based on what I saw, Kenny played the shit out of his role. He earned the ass-kicking he got and now he’s somewhere licking his wounds.

So now we come back to Cody. And it’s not obvious what he’s doing right now? But he has to get that people fucking hate him (and his fine ass wife). He’s winning matches that people don’t want him to win. He’s acting like a conquering hero while people boo and the announcers acknowledge the boos. Sounds like HHH reign of terror heel stuff to me!? So now we just need a little bit of cheating and we’re there, but will people get it and appreciate it? And of course, he’s going to be built up so that some babyface person gets to take him out. But can people wait for it? It doesn’t seem like they can.

>>But do the Twittery folks who think AEW is the white knight
>>saving American wrestling from the ultra evil big money
>>corporation that is WWE get this? Or no? Maybe we will see!
>

  

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14. "I think a lot of that was cemented with the deathmatch"
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Whoever fucked up the fireworks, they had an opportunity to go with it and have Omega come out on the stage right after laughing. But just like Cody getting busted open by Spears, they tried to have it both ways and let most of the week go talking about "how disappointed they were" until Callis "could neither confirm or deny" in a promo. If they just had Kenny playing Mox and Eddie for marks from the beginning, he comes off like a better, more complete heel. And the promo they followed up with would have still worked.

I think honestly a lot of people lost trust in him after that, and he barely got it back from the epic with Danielson.

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10. "Not a good sign that I keep forgetting about Wrestle Kingdom"
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And it’s happening like right now. I pretty much checked out after G1 and I think a lot of other folks did too. I heard the Super Junior tourney was pretty good, but just couldn’t make the time for it.

WK is actually a good card, especially this first night, but the product is ice cold rn. The main event scene has been cursed during the COVID era, they introduced a new World Title belt that everyone hates, some of the gaijin either can’t or won’t travel to Japan, and even the clap crowds groan at the House of Torture booking.

Still, there are reasons for optimism. The 50th anniversary is this year, so they definitely want it to be memorable. It seems like everyone is getting relatively healthy at the same time. And the Shibata return could be huge.

I think/hope they make a big splash over the next few days and carry that momentum. They really need it. I’m guessing Okada makes it out of tonight/tomorrow with the championship and gets rid of the Divas title, but more than individual results, they just need these matches to create some buzz. I want to come back here and say “you guys HAVE to drop everything to watch _______ vs. _______.”

  

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11. "I agree with everything you said"
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I don't know who to cheer for in this main event. Shingo retaining would be huge for his title defenses. To say you beat Okada at the Tokyo Dome would be huge. I really want that old belt back though, and Okada winning would accomplish that. I'm conflicted.

I could see Okada winning night one and Will beating him on night 2. I don't know what to think, I just want some banger matches for both nights.

HoT has GOT to go. That is for sure.

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17. "SPOILERS"
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I really want
>that old belt back though, and Okada winning would accomplish
>that. I'm conflicted.

Fuck. Okada is keeping the new title. He looks so weird with it lol. Ah well… guess we gotta get used to it now.

>
>I could see Okada winning night one and Will beating him on
>night 2. I don't know what to think, I just want some banger
>matches for both nights.

I figured Okada was gonna win cause they want that popular babyface for the 50th anniversary/return of real crowds that can hopefully cheer and boo. Ospreay will get his big WO moment with the title soon enough (probably next year). Shingo is great, but there was no way his reign was gonna last past WK. Glad he got his run with the title. He is easily the MVP of the past year and carried them through an extraordinarily difficult time.

I liked Night 2 better than Night 1. I was a tad let down overall, but the last 3 matches all delivered and I really enjoyed the Stardom showcase. My favorite match was Kenta vs. Tanahashi. That was brutal.

I was surprised by some results. United Empire lost big here, which makes me think the story of the next WK will be them taking a bunch of gold.

I really gotta start watching Stardom. Been hearing great stuff, and I was impressed by the match, even if they didn’t get the chance to get their characters across. Saya Kamitani’s finisher was bananas.

  

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15. "Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG"
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Danielson by good screw job

  

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16. "I’m calling another draw"
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I don’t know who the other two judges will be, but I’m guessing #3 will be Omega. Who won’t call it for either. Setting up a third match.

I will say that Page will eventually win, because they can’t really do anything with him if he loses to his first challenger.

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18. "RE: Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG"
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>
>Danielson by good screw job

I got the same happening. Some sort of wacky split decision that goes Bryan’s favor even though Hangman was about to pin him again.

Idk, maybe that’s too WCW, but I think they want to shock/anger people on their first TBS show to get them to keep tuning in.

I think a lot of people are nervous about taking the title off of Hangman so soon, which I get, but they are clearly invested in the guy and in long-term storytelling. He’ll be fine if he loses. I think they’ve struck something special with this “I’m gonna kick your head in” Danielson and they should probably ride it.

  

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19. "Hangman by judges decision"
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Bryan's too hot rn he needs his bubble popped a bit to really go off the deep end w/ it. I think his own conceit failing him would do it.

But there's a lot of ways you can go w/ either person winning and w/ a variety of finishes (clean, dirty, judges decision, even an injury work) and press on w/ an interesting story.

Regardless I do think Hangman needs to win. He'd be fine w/ an L but I'm looking at really solidifying a star. Beating Omega is one thing but he aint Bryan. I'm also just really put off by how Big E's whole run was. They did him absolutely dirty.

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20. "well nvm they were straight up brawling"
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Hangman got some amazing bloody face images tonight

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21. "As soon as I saw the judges, I knew Hangman was going to win…"
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…by pintall. Three popular guys, no controversial picks. Then I noticed with all the matches/segments planned, it wasn’t going to an hour. Then considering that Cargill is almost certainly going to win the tittle in the main event, I knew that they weren’t going to have the heels win all the big matches. And certainly not after the heels basically all won last week.

Still good and completely different match than last time. More evenly matched. And Bryan had a serious crimson mask as well.

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23. "Brutal, a blast. They should do it every month. "
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I think they’re gonna come back to that sooner than later.

  

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22. "Not like this Jericho, not like this "
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Bad dye job, worse promo, awful segment

  

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26. "you mean to tell me he doesn't have jet black hair???"
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>Bad dye job, worse promo, awful segment

  

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24. "man they cussing a lot on TBS lmao"
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really bringing back the feeling.

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25. "Mo’ WWE releases"
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This time it looks like the focus was backstage folks and trainers. Alrighty.

https://tjrwrestling.net/news/wwe-release-janaury-5-2022/

Man, they really are serious about transitioning from whatever they were doing before. Haitch is gonna show back up and it’s only gonna be HBK from his crew.

>Reigns has the rona but hopefully he’s fine.
>
>Brock is enjoying himself and is now the Raw champ. Lashley vs
>Lesnar is gonna happen and it’s gonna be GREAT as long as
>Brock plays ball.
>
>Toni Storm flew home and quit WWE and the internet doesn’t
>know why yet. We shall see/I hope she’s okay. She’s 26.
>
>Charlotte and Becky are holding belts still. So is Britt
>Baker.
>
>I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept
>that he can’t help himself with certain things and people. I
>know to take his anger over that stuff/those people with a
>grain of salt so I can enjoy the rest of his stuff.
>
>We still have Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and
>others back from retirement mostly doing good stuff.
>
>Random indy stuff is going down. ROH is gone-ish.
>
>Wrestle Kingdom is coming too. Shibata and Will are back!?
>Nice.
>
>NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out
>their kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids
>come out of it better off eventually. The tv exposure is a
>double-edged sword methinks in the complain festival
>environment.
>
>Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re
>too self-aware to not have a plan of some kind with this. We
>shall see. And what are they going to do with all of these
>doggone still free agents!?
>
>Last thing for now before we head towards BD vs Hangman this
>week, good tag team rasslin is happening on both AEW and WWE.
>

  

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27. "fuck them for getting rid of Regal"
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He was the perfect authority figure. I'm all the way checked out of NXT 2.0 and I think this guarantees I won't be returning. There's enough great wrestling out there to fill the time with.

  

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30. "There was zero point in firing Regal"
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Like, okay, you don’t want him on TV anymore as an authority figure. Fine. But why fire him as a trainer? You’ve completely reshaped the product as a breeding ground for young talent, and you fire a trainer with 30+ years of ring experience. Morons.

It looks like it’s down to HBK and Samoa Joe in the training roles. I’m a bit surprised that they didn’t fire Joe a second time.

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37. "RE: There was zero point in firing Regal"
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>Like, okay, you don’t want him on TV anymore as an
>authority figure. Fine. But why fire him as a trainer?
>You’ve completely reshaped the product as a breeding ground
>for young talent, and you fire a trainer with 30+ years of
>ring experience. Morons.
>
>It looks like it’s down to HBK and Samoa Joe in the training
>roles. I’m a bit surprised that they didn’t fire Joe a
>second time.

It all seems like a strong reaction to the nxt/AEW ratings stuff and shit..it seems like a heavy-handed punishment toward HHH himself. Like there’s some kind of power struggle and Haitch is losing right now.

  

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55. "telling that the power struggle starts AFTER a "cardiac event""
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seems like a heavy-handed punishment toward
>HHH himself. Like there’s some kind of power struggle and
>Haitch is losing right now.

for as much as people hated his wrestling run after a while, im starting to really admire the guy for laying it on the line for a vision of wrestling that was his own.

makes me wonder what he could do as just a traditional booker for AEW were not part of the McMahon family

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46. "You spoke too soon haha"
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>It looks like it’s down to HBK and Samoa Joe in the training
>roles. I’m a bit surprised that they didn’t fire Joe a
>second time.

  

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47. "Wouldn’t be surprised if SDR is outta there next"
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Would LOVE to see her make a return to performance in AEW and run a few against Rosa and Britt.

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48. "Ha. Of course he was canned."
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Maybe he can finally come and be a commentator on Rampage. I always figured they probably wanted Joe for the job that they gave Mark Henry. I like Henry, but he seemed lost in the limited time he was in the booth.

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49. "If Joe is cleared, I want him wrestling"
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dogg, gimme Punk/Joe on a PPV with a crowd of 16,000 people

  

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51. "IF Joe is cleared, there's a whole host of dream matches to be had"
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Punk, Danielson, MJF, Cole, Page, etc. Shoot, a Joe vs. Team Taz feud would be epic.

He's gonna need some time shake off the ring rust (he didn't look so good in that one match with Kross), but once he's ready, he's money.

I was operating under the assumption that he isn't wrestling anymore.

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56. "the last time i tried to watch RAW was like 2017"
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and Joe was so easily the best part of the whole show that he actually seemed out of place

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57. "The way they just nerfed him to Brock, man…"
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The build-up was white-hot, then they let Joe get in half a match of offense, and poof- one F5 and that was it and he didn’t get another shot.

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60. "he seemed like a throwback in all the best ways"
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i can close my eyes and picture Gary Hart talking about how Joe was gonna be the guy to shut Dusty Rhodes up FOR GOOD, and myself being worried that he might be right.

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61. "What makes him even greater is that he doesn't need a Gary Hart"
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Dude is monster in the ring who's phenomenal on the stick.

I find it absolutely bizarre that Vince/Nick Khan would fire this guy twice in a year. They might not even have 30 guys to put in the Royal Rumble this year, and he gets fired. Shoot, with Brock now on RAW, they could have slotted him in to feud with Roman until it's time for Wrestlemania.

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63. "Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns"
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>Dude is monster in the ring who's phenomenal on the stick.
>
>I find it absolutely bizarre that Vince/Nick Khan would fire
>this guy twice in a year. They might not even have 30 guys to
>put in the Royal Rumble this year, and he gets fired. Shoot,
>with Brock now on RAW, they could have slotted him in to feud
>with Roman until it's time for Wrestlemania.

I get that WWE isn’t going to make every indie darling the top champ, but there are so many cases where you just scratch your head and go “how did they mess this up?” Especially when it’s clear that WWE is struggling to come up with credible challengers.

My biggest example of this is Shinsuke back in 2018. He was SO over and they made him look like a huge deal for months. So why have him turn on AJ Styles AFTER losing his title shot, then have him lose 1,000 rematches in a row? If Shinsuke turned heel during the match to win, held the title for a few months, and then AJ won it back… who would that hurt? No one would think lesser of AJ, and then you have Shinsuke on a level where he can easily challenge for a title once every year or so and look like a credible threat. If you do that with guys like Shinsuke, Joe, or Keith Lee, then you don’t have to throw millions at Goldberg every few months when you’re in a tough spot. Instead, one of them is in the mid-card forever and Vince cut the other two cause they’re not as chiseled as Randy Orton.

That’s why I can’t fully complain about Kofi or Big E’s title runs. Obviously the way their title reigns ended was bullshit, especially Kofi’s, but at least they’ll be one of those guys for the rest of their career. They’ll likely never win the title again, but you can easily plug them into a fun title feud as a credible challenger at any point. WWE has like 12-14 ppvs a year, they NEED credible threats like that desperately, but they throw away most of their chances to make guys like that.

  

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64. "RE: Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns"
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>>Dude is monster in the ring who's phenomenal on the stick.
>>
>>I find it absolutely bizarre that Vince/Nick Khan would fire
>>this guy twice in a year. They might not even have 30 guys
>to
>>put in the Royal Rumble this year, and he gets fired. Shoot,
>>with Brock now on RAW, they could have slotted him in to
>feud
>>with Roman until it's time for Wrestlemania.
>
>I get that WWE isn’t going to make every indie darling the
>top champ, but there are so many cases where you just scratch
>your head and go “how did they mess this up?” Especially
>when it’s clear that WWE is struggling to come up with
>credible challengers.
>
>My biggest example of this is Shinsuke back in 2018. He was SO
>over and they made him look like a huge deal for months. So
>why have him turn on AJ Styles AFTER losing his title shot,
>then have him lose 1,000 rematches in a row? If Shinsuke
>turned heel during the match to win, held the title for a few
>months, and then AJ won it back… who would that hurt? No one
>would think lesser of AJ, and then you have Shinsuke on a
>level where he can easily challenge for a title once every
>year or so and look like a credible threat. If you do that
>with guys like Shinsuke, Joe, or Keith Lee, then you don’t
>have to throw millions at Goldberg every few months when
>you’re in a tough spot. Instead, one of them is in the
>mid-card forever and Vince cut the other two cause they’re
>not as chiseled as Randy Orton.
>
>That’s why I can’t fully complain about Kofi or Big E’s
>title runs. Obviously the way their title reigns ended was
>bullshit, especially Kofi’s, but at least they’ll be one
>of those guys for the rest of their career. They’ll likely
>never win the title again, but you can easily plug them into a
>fun title feud as a credible challenger at any point. WWE has
>like 12-14 ppvs a year, they NEED credible threats like that
>desperately, but they throw away most of their chances to make
>guys like that.

But then they pay Owens to be a hand. Aka a person to take bumps in multi person matches. He’s basically a fat Ziggler to me..they’ve ruined him to the point where I don’t care at all when I see him and I know to ignore anything he’s doing if a big title is involved. I basically only care when they throw him in with Sami cuz I know they can do great stuff even on autopilot.

Samoa Joe being hurt and catching hell getting/staying cleared has to hurt him with WWE brass who don’t really get how grand he can be. Aew basically has to sign him for like 2 years to take the free badass matches he can have before he goes to the booth. Punk, Brian, Omega, some young guy who could use a key win after they make Joe look like Balrog, Page (either one), someone!

I wonder how much longer the New Day crew has with WWE honestly. It seems like they are checking boxes to pay those guys back for selling a bunch of Booty-Os and unicorn horns. Once Xavier isn’t king anymore, what else is there? Maybe they all can be in the ‘not gonna win but throw them in the title match’ category you mentioned? But they’re all starting to get ‘old’ so I dunno. Maybe they slap together a midcard heel crew role for Big E to hoss it up vs some babyfaces for a while?

Since we’re here, is Cesaro hurt? I swear he could be slinging European uppercuts to Okada, Moose, Gresham, or Hangman Page somewhere before coming back to WWE to help train these football players and weightlifting champions at the PC.

  

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28. "Aaaaaand Fenix just broke his arm on live TV"
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I'm 99% sure they gave the titles to Jurassic Express cause they instantly realized how bad that injury was.

  

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29. "Nah, that seemed like the planned finished"
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Given the time that spot was def meant to take Fenix out of the rest of the match, all the graphics for the title change being ready, all the heel teams coming out after, and looked like JB's family was in the crowd.

  

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32. "Good point"
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>Given the time that spot was def meant to take Fenix out of
>the rest of the match, all the graphics for the title change
>being ready, all the heel teams coming out after, and looked
>like JB's family was in the crowd.

I was crying too much to truly notice all this.

  

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31. "The table spot and the title change were planned..."
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...but clearly not Fenix's arm bending the complete wrong way.

But yeah, all the heel tag teams coming out to "congratulate" the Jurassic Express was coordinated and wouldn't have worked if the Luchas had retained. I'm guessing the Luchas were about to transition to a feud with Malachi and an incoming Brody King. So much for that. Though I guess it can be Penta and Pac vs. the House of Black.

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33. "Malachi is not hitting for me and it’s bumming me out."
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Maybe Brody can help, but idk, the presentation just isn’t clicking. None of the lights out, lights on moments really make any sense and his face paint looks absurd. I loved Tommy End and Aleister Black (NXT Edition), but something about this just ain’t working.

  

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34. "I like Black, but the lights out stuff only works in the ring entrance"
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Tonight it happened twice for no reason. The first one seemed especially pointless.

Honestly, I’m going to blame Cody for all of this. Things haven’t been quite clicking since he decided to even further draw out their feud.

But im hoping bringing in King will get things going again.

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36. "It’s bad and the crowd doesn’t know what to do with it either "
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When the lights went out and they just switched places from Luchas on the ramp to in the ring and Black moved to the ramp ? Wow, that was spectacularly bad.

  

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39. "Lol."
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>When the lights went out and they just switched places from
>Luchas on the ramp to in the ring and Black moved to the ramp
>? Wow, that was spectacularly bad.

He also needs new music that hits as hard as his WWE song. It’s just a weird vibe every time he comes out and it’s getting basically no pop.

  

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41. "The entrance is the thing that really works for me"
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It's suitably creepy, and I think the music helps with that. I'm certainly no fan of death metal of any sort, but I think it works in this case.

But yeah, him and the Lucha Bros. switching places was beyond pointless. He needs another way to establish his creepiness beyond his entrance and the mist. I'm hoping King will help things along.

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35. "Watched it again. Dude landed **right** on his elbow. "
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It was all bent to shit after that.

Sucks. Dude was getting into a good groove after recovering from his last
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40. "Why did they replay it like 4-5 times?"
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>It was all bent to shit after that.

When it went down I thought it was bad. When I saw the replay I KNEW it was bad. And then I was wishing they never showed it again, but they showed it 3 or 4 more times.

  

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42. "Apparently his arm isn't broken, just badly dislocated. Whew."
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The dislocation looked ugly as hell, but all things considered, that's not terrible news.

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43. "id rather break my arm than dislocate my elbow 100 times out of 100"
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44. "Just saw that. How fortunate!"
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A few weeks recovery. Must be painful as hell though.

  

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38. "Dynamite 1/5 : TBS Debut"
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an uneven show anchored by two awesome matches in BD vs Hangman and Jungle Express vs Lucha Bros. Like Danielson, I don't know if I've seen a bad Lucha Bros match before.

Like was said above, the Malakai Black stuff isn't quite hitting. You can hear how confused the crowd is too.

Jade Cargill vs Ruby Soho was so sloppy. This kind of match shouldn't be on primetime television, period. Cargill has Charlotte upside, but she's green as grass. For seeming so athletic, there's a violence and physicality that's sorely lacking from her moveset. I'm not sure the AEW women's division needs a 2nd title. The best female performers are, by a mile, Baker, Deeb, Riho.

Curious to see what they do with Danielson AND Hangman from here. I'd like to see Omega/Cole get mixed up with Hangman somehow I'd throw Punk in there too but it seems like he's not through with MJF yet. Maybe a returning heel Moxley? (yuck) I think we're about to see some delusional madman heel work from Danielson which I'm so obviously in for. He's the best pro wrestler in the world.

If they're gonna have Hangman go through with beating Danielson then I hope we're due for a long and exciting Hangman run. They have the opportunity to make a star here, but he needs the strap for a while and needs big angles and classic matches through that period of time. He's proven more in the last month than he has in the last 2 years so I think he's got it in him.

  

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45. "you are damn right about that last line"
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He got the juice rn

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50. "2.0 isnt bad"
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either that or the last 3 eps have just be a good run.

focusing on some of the newer folks
Carmelo's cool. Kind of reminds me of a less athletic Ricochet but w/ actual personality
they need to set Carmelo's manager/partner loose that guy has megastar potential if he can wrestle.
Bron is already a star
Toxic Attraction is a good focus point for the Women's division
Imperium is way cooler w/ Walter
the new girl Tiffany should end up being something.

i mean yeah some of these people are green as shit so the wrestling might not be as good but its a better show than Raw or SD

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52. "WALTER makes everything better"
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And Bronn Breaker does seem like the can't miss prospect that's justifying this whole experiment. Now that they put the title on him, it doesn't seem like there's much more point in keeping him around. He'll be up at the main roster before the end of the year, and the only reason I can think for it not being right now is that there's really no one else to put the belt on.

I read this somewhere and I think it's true: There's still too much of a style clash between what they want to be now and the last vestiges of what they used to be. Now, they seem to be going for this mid-'90s thing, where everything is bright and wrestlers have side-jobs/gimmicks or are narcolpetic. And the matches are really short and there's all these goofy backstage skits. But going down that path and still having stuff like WarGames and kendo stick matches isn't working. And they're apparently going to do anothhr Dusty Classic Tag Team tournament, which is probably going to be a disaster.

So they should probably pick a lane and stick with it. And then cut it down to an hour and just keep in on Peacock.

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54. "Steiner is good enough to actually make someone on his way out imo"
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53. "great pacing and format to go along with blah content"
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the time to convince me Hangman would be a worthy champion was before he beat Omega, not after. im not buying it, im not buying him, and im losing interest in him as a champion. the match itself was good for what it was, even if their intentions with it are a miss for me. the multi-man gimmicks for title shots need to die, because it sends a very strong message that the weekly TV isnt that important, as long as you watch the "Face of the Revolution 20 Man Human Centipede Match'

so of course now they are going to do the same thing with Jurassic Express, which im also not buying. Luchasaurus is an indie goof, and Ill never be able to forget him on the microphone role-playing an actual talking dinosaur. after the first 5-6 times of doing the "65 million years" bit, he cant just go back to being a badass who dresses like that to psych ppl out. this is not the kind of pro wrestling that appeals to me.

the parade of heel tag teams coming out at the end was EXTREMELY cornball too. this has Young Bucks stench all over it. i would have been real interested had only FTR come out with their seni-reasonable point that the Lucha Bros only had belts to lose in the first place bc of repeated referee errors to kick off a real program.

the overall strategy of using the non-existent prestige of the belts to make stars instead of using the stars they have to give the belts a shred of credibility is NOT hitting for me. its fan booking relying on the idea that everyone knows it's fake, so no need to put effort into making you believe. i dont watch this shit to marvel at choreographed feats of athletic coordination.

but on the plus side i loved the way the show was laid out and the pace it moved along at. good mix of talking segments and matches.

MJF-Punk was great as usual, and I actually felt something for Shawn Dean taking a stray bullet. Love him as a worker and glad he got to be on TV. Id really like to see him win some matches and get into the TNT Title mix bc hes good enough. 2Point0 was also highly entertaining as usual, and I enjoy them so much that I almost dont care that they are getting sucked into Jericho's cheap heat fueled self-love. Im looking forward to more Deeb-Shida as well.

its funny how Punk-MJF and Deeb-Shida are the most well constructed and believable "personal issue" programs and they are going about it in completely opposite ways. Punk-MJF are basically magnets physically repelling each other for now while they spar verbally, while Deeb-Shida are going into their 4th match and clearly headed for a 5th. this kind of stuff IS why i watch this shit.

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58. "So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match"
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They’re saying it was him landing on it wrong, but it seemed like he was limping even before that.

Atlas is saying he won’t be out long. He was a good job out there before the injury.

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59. "RE: So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match"
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>They’re saying it was him landing on it wrong, but it
>seemed like he was limping even before that.
>
>Atlas is saying he won’t be out long. He was a good job out
>there before the injury.

Yeah, he looked pretty agile and smooth. Hopefully he can get back in decent time. I’m more worried about Miro Crush rn. Hopefully he doesn’t get totally derailed.

  

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62. "Battle of the Belts wasn't exactly Clash of the Champions..."
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...but I liked all of the matches well enough, even with the outcomes of each were never in doubt.

Dustin and Sammy had a solid old school match. Starks and Sydal were enjoyable, and it further the Martin vs. Team Taz angle. Baker and Riho was decentlu fun as well. Everything was about B/B- range. It didn't set the world on fire, but a decent way to spend an hour during these COVID times.

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65. "Adam Cole is #1 ranked?"
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oh yeah, i almost forgot this is all fake smh

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66. "well this couldnt have started any worse"
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67. "so of course the rest has been great lol"
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anything not involving the YBs and/or Best has been good to superb

and Serena Deeb. fuck. shes occupying the same air as Danielson right now imo.

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68. "lost a little steam with Matt Hardy"
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and of course The Acclaimed get beat on and sent off with their tails between their legs

god forbid they hold a little heat going into the match. no no no...revenge happens within 8 minutes of the original verbal slight.

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69. "and I dont believe Sammy could beat up Daniel Garcia"
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so i can already tell this is gonna be annoying

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70. "i was right. hes just not for me."
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his matches are just "doing stuff back and forth" until he kicks out from some shit he shoudnt kick out of, then the deus ex machina finish.

im over it.

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71. "If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW"
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But Guevara allows NO time for character, for movement. It’s go go go from the minute the bell rings. He’s charismatic when he’s not wrestling but not while he’s wrestling.

I thought the match was pretty good but to your point there’s definitely a disparity between Guevara’s size and Garcia’s.

As storytelling goes, I actually really enjoyed Wardlow/Punk btw.

  

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72. "Punk is giving a masteclass in how to do a PROGRAM"
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what Danielson is doing with his matches,Punk is doing with "wrestling on TV"

Everything is compelling, everyone he interacts with comes out better than they were before, and he isnt even touching his nemesis. Hes the anti-Jericho and i honestly couldnt imagine the show without him at this point.

All that with Wardlow was fuckin great and now hes made. Whenever they want to push him they can give him 6 weeks of wins on TV and hes a credible title contender.

As far as Sammy, you're right in that the match starts and anything interesting about him goes away. Then its pedal to the metal with choreography and stunt work, rinse, repeat. He's also not a babyface, which isnt helping at all.

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75. "RE: If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW"
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>But Guevara allows NO time for character, for movement.
>It’s go go go from the minute the bell rings. He’s
>charismatic when he’s not wrestling but not while he’s
>wrestling.
>
>I thought the match was pretty good but to your point
>there’s definitely a disparity between Guevara’s size and
>Garcia’s.
>
>As storytelling goes, I actually really enjoyed Wardlow/Punk
>btw.

Someone probably has to force slowing down onto him with a vet who can stay with him. Like Pac or someone like that. It seems like AEW gets what you’re saying and they THINK they’re trying to slow him down. Ie: working with the Rhodes brothers. The problem of course is that the Rhodes brothers sometimes can’t help THEMSELVES either so here we are.

And Jericho? It’s kinda over, right? He was a great get for them at the beginning. And he probably did better in AEW giving and taking a few rubs than he would have going around randomly or on moth balls in WWE but he’s right around done. He doesn’t look great, he’s faking it, it’s becoming clear, and he’s losing any kind of mystique he had the more he comes around looking old, moving slow, and making people wait for him. And he’s not even helping his crew out at this point. Once they bring Joe to replace him on commentary, he can damn near lose a retirement match.

  

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77. "its been done for a minute."
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everything since Football Fiasco 2020 has been him taking rubs. Eddie Kingston is just the next guy with momentum that Jericho needs to vampire off of. youre also right that hes not doing anything at all for his crew.

and in something im still salty about...he ruined the fuckin War Games for me. it meant nothing, he was completely see-thru with his blading and shit, and then going through that cardboard and getting caught peeking at the camera light to know when it was time to play dead.

if hes not doing straight heel commentary hes completely replaceable there too.

he was so great for like 6 months, then he was great on commentary with Schiavone for a couple months...and then the football field match took everything down a very crappy road.

i will say one thing tho, during the OC feud when his crew got doused with orange juice he turned Santana & Ortiz whole trajectory around. Ortiz was flopping around in the orange juice like a cartoon character that couldnt stand up. Jericho looked down and said into the mic "Get up you idiot!". Ever since that very moment Ortiz has been a completely different wrestler without any of his comedy antics. so i guess theres that.

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73. "was Adam Cole always this flabby?"
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now i've only ever seen him in AEW.
and his theme/entrance is probably my favorite thing in all of wrestling rn.
im not ashamed to admit i do the whole bit with the boom on the apron and the two guns up thing he does

but once the bell dings, i feel like they're asking a lot of me because the actual look and in-ring stuff doesnt match his personality/presentation

and as fans of both people i really don't dig how they're about to push AC & Britt as an item. i know they are dating for real but let Britt cook in her own ecosystem vs Thunder Rosa or Jade and soon Jamie.

wardlow/mjf/spears & punk remains interesting as always across both shows

i think i saw Hangman on a Dark episode? i know they tape that the same night as Dynamite, so it makes sense for the live fans to get to see him that night, but the world champ should never be on a Dark episode. just don't air that. idk.

and finally i find that Dan Lambert i think most people dislike him but he is funny as all hell to me.

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74. "RE: was Adam Cole always this flabby?"
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Cole is an indy main event wrestling machine. Kinda like the 70s and 80s long match/ in great shape/everyone likes working with him type dudes. Like a Steamboat with cooler music and a little crew. Until he gets to having banger matches again with stakes, I think he’s gonna seem disappointing. Like youre asking, he has basically never LOOKED like anything special. In that way, he lacks the Steamboat thing (Ricky looked like a damn tank).

Back to Cole, he can grow on you. That’s how he got me. I didn’t gaf about him in ROH or NXT until he got into some big matches. He’s great but he’s niche great. Even with his over ass song and the entrance, he’s not ‘he’ll make anything feel huge so just throw him on tv’ great.

That would be CM motherfucking Punk. He’s got the Midas touch. He’s knighting so many people in AEW right now. The validation he just gave to Wardlow? Man, he might’ve gotten Wardlow silly paydays for the next decade at least with the way he took those power bombs. The way he fucked up to get into them and then only MJF being an ass saved him? Just wow. Classic, smart, wonderful, giving, cool. Punk is a perfect combo of a lot of good shit right now. Punk basically lost to Wardlow the other night. I loved it and it totally worked on me. I want to see if he’s gonna Febreze Spears somehow too. It’s not like Spears doesn’t have decent size and solid work in general. He’s overdue to be made to look like something worth a damn. May as well!

And hey, I didn’t see this Punk AEW run being this complete and great so far. The honeymoon is over maybe but he’s doing God’s work. I wish Edge was banging out goodness anything like this for instance.

>now i've only ever seen him in AEW.
>and his theme/entrance is probably my favorite thing in all of
>wrestling rn.
>im not ashamed to admit i do the whole bit with the boom on
>the apron and the two guns up thing he does
>
>but once the bell dings, i feel like they're asking a lot of
>me because the actual look and in-ring stuff doesnt match his
>personality/presentation
>
>and as fans of both people i really don't dig how they're
>about to push AC & Britt as an item. i know they are dating
>for real but let Britt cook in her own ecosystem vs Thunder
>Rosa or Jade and soon Jamie.
>
>wardlow/mjf/spears & punk remains interesting as always across
>both shows
>
>i think i saw Hangman on a Dark episode? i know they tape that
>the same night as Dynamite, so it makes sense for the live
>fans to get to see him that night, but the world champ should
>never be on a Dark episode. just don't air that. idk.
>
>and finally i find that Dan Lambert i think most people
>dislike him but he is funny as all hell to me.

  

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76. "he looks terrible physically imo."
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small is small. thats whatever.

but dude doesn't look like he works out at all, and hes both skinny and flabby (good word) at the same time.

not only that, but being so small makes his head look fucking enormous.

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78. "NXT name generator at it again: WALTER is now Gunther Shark "
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Feared the worst when it leaked that the WWE had put a trademark on the name. And of course, It had to be true.

Seriously, what the fuck? The guy is one of the top 2 or 3 most talented guys in the roster. Leagues ahead of everyone else is NXT. Has made a name for himself as “WALTER” on both the weekly shows and the occasional Takeover. And now you’re changing his name to THAT? So you can own merchandising rights?

I guess the “good” news is this probably means it’ll be six months max before they completely fuck him up in NXT or the main roster, and then he can sign with AEW or New Japan or something.

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79. "Oh, and is the NXT name generator broken or if not if gives WALTER..."
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...the same name as an actual Nazi commander? Which Gunther Stark was (apologies on the "Shark" above; fucking auto-correct)? And WWE would have known if they'd used Google?

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80. "Incredible"
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Everyone who I’ve said “Well they can’t fuck up this wrestler” WWE finds a way.

  

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81. "I’m headed to Dynamite tonight boys!!!"
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82. "NICE!!!"
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I attended the GCW show on Friday. Got to see Sabu, Big Sexy, Ricky Morton and 2 Cold Scorpio in a ring. What a time to be alive.

Also, Matt Cardona has NUCLEAR heat, he beat Rhino and claimed the ECW TV title. Pretty incredible heel run hes on right now.

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83. "Cardona and Effy have been having an epic feud. "
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It's really great stuff.

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85. "damn. i wanted to go and couldnt find a road dog :("
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also thinking about going to Metro Pro Saturday night to see Alex Shelley (Shamrocks!) wrestle

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86. "He was at Harpos too"
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They’re coming back in April.

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84. "mask up! AEW doing big rona numbers "
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87. "Dope! Have fun."
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It's going to be Dynamite, Rampage, and Dark, right?

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88. "Dark and Dynamite, Rampage is live Friday but I’m out of town"
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Tonight’s show is jam packed on paper. No clue how they fit everything In cleanly.

  

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89. "ok we getting F bombs on TV"
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92. "I was there ringside "
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They always put on a great live show.
Wish I could go to Rampage on Friday but I’m busy that night and couldn’t pull it.

How stupid was that guy to yell that shit at Mox and get kicked out at the start of the show?

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93. "What did the asshole yell at Moxley? Couldn’t make it out on TV"
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95. "i saw somewhere: "get that drunk out of the ring""
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which, while insensitive, doesnt really seem like ejectable behavior to me. *they* made Jon Moxley into a drunk.

i dont know why wrestling companies trade so heavily on these ppl's personal lives.

not only do i not care about Jade Cargill's daughter, I DEFINITELY dont want to see her on TV.

I dont want to know about Moxley going to rehab, and telling us makes you look stupid after he had his flask in every other promo for months.

if its not part of the presentation, keep it to yourself. If Jonathan Good has an alcohol problem, why are you telling us that Jon Moxley, an entirely fabricated entity, is going to rehab? Drinking alcohol on camera was part of this fabricated entity, but now we have to pretend that never happened?

This is a big part of why pundits and retired wrestlers say that the biggest marks nowadays are the wrestlers themselves. Jon Moxley isnt a real person, but they seem to have completely mixed up when and when NOT to portray that he is.

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96. "and by "somewhere" i see i that i mean Tiger Woods' recap smhlol"
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90. "thank god for the Booker of the Year"
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Brian Pillman Jr was 3 episodes of TV away from getting over for real at one point

what a waste

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91. "So I’d say it’s almost guaranteed Gargano shows in AEW next week"
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Main event is the Cole vs. Orange Cassidy in a Lights Out match. In Cleveland. I’d put $100 on Gargano, the hometown hero, coming in and costing Cole the win.

Since it’s Lights Out, Cole can lose without it hurting his perfect record. And Cassidy, after being on the losing end of every match in this feud (except the one eight man tag match) can get a win back.

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94. "Dynamite was, easily, the most fun I've had at a wrestling show"
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the last show I left this inspired was an ROH show at the Manhattan Center main event by Bryan Danielson vs KENTA in 2006

God, what a blast

I don't really like Jon Moxley but it was a cool moment and a great way to start the show. Some jerkoff yelled "get that drunk out of the ring!" and the crowd was like "ooooh" and Moxley had him tossed. I would've liked to have seen this end in some kind of angle but the promo got people going, it's really fun to yell out the lyrics to "Wild Thing", and he looks physically better than he did pre-rehab.

Adam Cole's entrance is over. Is Adam Cole over? I don't know. There was chatter in this post earlier about him not looking great...and he's even less physically imposing in person. I worry about him. He was protected and portrayed well in NXT. But he's going to run into a program with Omega probably in the next 4 months and I just don't know how he's going to look on TV.

Orange Cassidy is a bullshit gimmick for marks who watch hentai. I hate this character.

I hope Tony Khan has a Hangman strategy that's more measured than "be a good guy and do good guy stuff." Hangman Page seemed to me to be, by far, the most popular guy in AEW after Sting and CM Punk. The ovation for his run in surprised me. His entire presentation when he hits the ring makes perfect sense. But why is your champion only eating up 90 seconds of airtime on your flagship show? He needs to be wrestling or talking every single week. Adding insult to injury is that there was no Hangman merchandise for sale - for your world champion! People were vocally frustrated about it. Hangman needs to get through Lance Archer with a swiftness. This reminds me of when Daniel Bryan, white hot after the Wrestlemania main event win, got thrust in an overlong program with Kane. The only guy who didn't get a reaction good OR bad all night was Lance Archer.

Cody on the other hand gets all the reactions. When you have to sit through one of his promos in person it's really eye-opening just how up his own ass he really is. On one token, he's belligerently tonedeaf to just how overwhelming he's being, he takes 7 minutes to communicate a 3 minute message. On the other hand, his pandering is gross - he uses jargon like "heel" in his promo, he references the Walter name change, he warns Brody King of calling himself "Brody" in AEW. It's fucking insufferable...but it's also really important. I don't think Cody Rhodes of all people is sophisticated enough to do this like Meta-heel John Cena by birthright thing he's doing, I think he actually believes that what he's doing is great. It's NOT great, BUT people care A LOT. People boo with their full throats and launch profanity his way incessantly. Other people also chant for him and do the "bowing" motion to him too. So while I think he's kind of a mess, I can't help but admit he's the ONLY character on AEW who's getting legitimate heat. Cody Rhodes is the only real heel in AEW. Maybe it doesn't matter if it's being done on purpose?

the CM Punk squash of Spears got a HUGE pop. God that was exciting. It's fun to do things like that I think...it felt like a flash knockout kind of UFC win. No one saw it coming but when it happened everyone immediately accepted it.

And then there's Sting. Man, the word "legend" gets thrown around a lot in wrestling but he's got a real claim to the title. For all of the great characters and wrestling we saw last night the vibe just completely changed when Sting came out. The mood was palpable - I heard a guy a row behind me just say outloud "man that's actually fuckin Sting". I was STUNNED how much he was bumping, but boy did it make the comeback even more powerful. When Sting did the stagedive it was like a party broke out in the crowd.

I know a lot was made about Big Swole's lack-of-diversity comments a few weeks ago. I didn't think Tony Khan's response was so tactful. But I'd like to point out that there's hope; Ricky Starks and the Acclaimed are legitimate stars in the making. Starks can go as far as Khan lets him. The Acclaimed have "it". Of everyone I saw last night who I hadn't already seen in person or on WWE TV, the guys who had the most obvious charisma BY A MILE were the Acclaimed and Ricky Starks (Starks shot something for DARK).

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97. "ive been saying it for like a year"
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The Acclaimed are potential stars and they have a chronic case of Booker of the Year Syndrome

they shouldnt be doing any jobs for anyone

if that means we only see them once every 2-3 weeks against glorofied job guys then so be it. but theyre basically tackling dummies. telling everyone they are #1 ranked is something we are just supposed to accept as true, but they seem to be using belts and rankings to tey to convince us people are important rather than booking people at ACTUALLY be important.

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99. "Nice!"
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It sounds like what I remember from the NXT shows I have been to. Lots of people are over..even people that don't seem like they are on TV. And the crowd is amped so everything 'feels better' because of the crowd energy.

>the last show I left this inspired was an ROH show at the
>Manhattan Center main event by Bryan Danielson vs KENTA in
>2006
>
>God, what a blast
>
>I don't really like Jon Moxley but it was a cool moment and a
>great way to start the show. Some jerkoff yelled "get that
>drunk out of the ring!" and the crowd was like "ooooh" and
>Moxley had him tossed. I would've liked to have seen this end
>in some kind of angle but the promo got people going, it's
>really fun to yell out the lyrics to "Wild Thing", and he
>looks physically better than he did pre-rehab.
>
>Adam Cole's entrance is over. Is Adam Cole over? I don't know.
>There was chatter in this post earlier about him not looking
>great...and he's even less physically imposing in person. I
>worry about him. He was protected and portrayed well in NXT.
>But he's going to run into a program with Omega probably in
>the next 4 months and I just don't know how he's going to look
>on TV.
>
>Orange Cassidy is a bullshit gimmick for marks who watch
>hentai. I hate this character.
>
>I hope Tony Khan has a Hangman strategy that's more measured
>than "be a good guy and do good guy stuff." Hangman Page
>seemed to me to be, by far, the most popular guy in AEW after
>Sting and CM Punk. The ovation for his run in surprised me.
>His entire presentation when he hits the ring makes perfect
>sense. But why is your champion only eating up 90 seconds of
>airtime on your flagship show? He needs to be wrestling or
>talking every single week. Adding insult to injury is that
>there was no Hangman merchandise for sale - for your world
>champion! People were vocally frustrated about it. Hangman
>needs to get through Lance Archer with a swiftness. This
>reminds me of when Daniel Bryan, white hot after the
>Wrestlemania main event win, got thrust in an overlong program
>with Kane. The only guy who didn't get a reaction good OR bad
>all night was Lance Archer.
>
>Cody on the other hand gets all the reactions. When you have
>to sit through one of his promos in person it's really
>eye-opening just how up his own ass he really is. On one
>token, he's belligerently tonedeaf to just how overwhelming
>he's being, he takes 7 minutes to communicate a 3 minute
>message. On the other hand, his pandering is gross - he uses
>jargon like "heel" in his promo, he references the Walter name
>change, he warns Brody King of calling himself "Brody" in AEW.
>It's fucking insufferable...but it's also really important. I
>don't think Cody Rhodes of all people is sophisticated enough
>to do this like Meta-heel John Cena by birthright thing he's
>doing, I think he actually believes that what he's doing is
>great. It's NOT great, BUT people care A LOT. People boo with
>their full throats and launch profanity his way incessantly.
>Other people also chant for him and do the "bowing" motion to
>him too. So while I think he's kind of a mess, I can't help
>but admit he's the ONLY character on AEW who's getting
>legitimate heat. Cody Rhodes is the only real heel in AEW.
>Maybe it doesn't matter if it's being done on purpose?
>
>the CM Punk squash of Spears got a HUGE pop. God that was
>exciting. It's fun to do things like that I think...it felt
>like a flash knockout kind of UFC win. No one saw it coming
>but when it happened everyone immediately accepted it.
>
>And then there's Sting. Man, the word "legend" gets thrown
>around a lot in wrestling but he's got a real claim to the
>title. For all of the great characters and wrestling we saw
>last night the vibe just completely changed when Sting came
>out. The mood was palpable - I heard a guy a row behind me
>just say outloud "man that's actually fuckin Sting". I was
>STUNNED how much he was bumping, but boy did it make the
>comeback even more powerful. When Sting did the stagedive it
>was like a party broke out in the crowd.
>
>I know a lot was made about Big Swole's lack-of-diversity
>comments a few weeks ago. I didn't think Tony Khan's response
>was so tactful. But I'd like to point out that there's hope;
>Ricky Starks and the Acclaimed are legitimate stars in the
>making. Starks can go as far as Khan lets him. The Acclaimed
>have "it". Of everyone I saw last night who I hadn't already
>seen in person or on WWE TV, the guys who had the most obvious
>charisma BY A MILE were the Acclaimed and Ricky Starks (Starks
>shot something for DARK).
>
>If Dynamite is in your town, go. Just go.

  

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98. "they having a spelling bee on Raw right now lol"
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boy i have seen it all.

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