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"OKPW: 2022, we comin for you, *****!"
Sun Jan-02-22 07:37 PM by jimaveli

  

          

Reigns has the rona but hopefully he’s fine.

Brock is enjoying himself and is now the Raw champ. Lashley vs Lesnar is gonna happen and it’s gonna be GREAT as long as Brock plays ball.

Toni Storm flew home and quit WWE and the internet doesn’t know why yet. We shall see/I hope she’s okay. She’s 26.

Charlotte and Becky are holding belts still. So is Britt Baker.

I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept that he can’t help himself with certain things and people. I know to take his anger over that stuff/those people with a grain of salt so I can enjoy the rest of his stuff.

We still have Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and others back from retirement mostly doing good stuff.

Random indy stuff is going down. ROH is gone-ish.

Wrestle Kingdom is coming too. Shibata and Will are back!? Nice.

NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out their kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids come out of it better off eventually. The tv exposure is a double-edged sword methinks in the complain festival environment.

Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re too self-aware to not have a plan of some kind with this. We shall see. And what are they going to do with all of these doggone still free agents!?

Last thing for now before we head towards BD vs Hangman this week, good tag team rasslin is happening on both AEW and WWE.

  

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thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?
Jan 02nd 2022
1
TK is weird on shit like this
Jan 02nd 2022
2
yeah he doesnt seem to understand the media game of it all
Jan 03rd 2022
9
RE: thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?
Jan 03rd 2022
3
RE: Lyons
Jan 03rd 2022
4
It's a weird situation
Jan 03rd 2022
5
RE: OKPW: 2022, we comin for you, *****!
Jan 03rd 2022
6
Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:
Jan 03rd 2022
7
      RE: Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:
Jan 03rd 2022
8
           I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?
Jan 04th 2022
12
                RE: I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?
Jan 04th 2022
13
                     I think a lot of that was cemented with the deathmatch
Jan 04th 2022
14
Not a good sign that I keep forgetting about Wrestle Kingdom
Jan 04th 2022
10
I agree with everything you said
Jan 04th 2022
11
      SPOILERS
Jan 05th 2022
17
Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG
Jan 05th 2022
15
I’m calling another draw
Jan 05th 2022
16
RE: Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG
Jan 05th 2022
18
Hangman by judges decision
Jan 05th 2022
19
well nvm they were straight up brawling
Jan 05th 2022
20
As soon as I saw the judges, I knew Hangman was going to win…
Jan 05th 2022
21
Brutal, a blast. They should do it every month.
Jan 05th 2022
23
Not like this Jericho, not like this
Jan 05th 2022
22
you mean to tell me he doesn't have jet black hair???
Jan 05th 2022
26
man they cussing a lot on TBS lmao
Jan 05th 2022
24
Mo’ WWE releases
Jan 05th 2022
25
fuck them for getting rid of Regal
Jan 05th 2022
27
      There was zero point in firing Regal
Jan 05th 2022
30
           RE: There was zero point in firing Regal
Jan 06th 2022
37
           telling that the power struggle starts AFTER a "cardiac event"
Jan 07th 2022
55
           You spoke too soon haha
Jan 06th 2022
46
                Wouldn’t be surprised if SDR is outta there next
Jan 06th 2022
47
                Ha. Of course he was canned.
Jan 06th 2022
48
                     If Joe is cleared, I want him wrestling
Jan 06th 2022
49
                          IF Joe is cleared, there's a whole host of dream matches to be had
Jan 06th 2022
51
                               the last time i tried to watch RAW was like 2017
Jan 07th 2022
56
                                    The way they just nerfed him to Brock, man…
Jan 07th 2022
57
                                         he seemed like a throwback in all the best ways
Jan 08th 2022
60
                                              What makes him even greater is that he doesn't need a Gary Hart
Jan 09th 2022
61
                                                   Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns
Jan 09th 2022
63
                                                        RE: Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns
Jan 09th 2022
64
Aaaaaand Fenix just broke his arm on live TV
Jan 05th 2022
28
Nah, that seemed like the planned finished
Jan 05th 2022
29
Good point
Jan 06th 2022
32
The table spot and the title change were planned...
Jan 05th 2022
31
Malachi is not hitting for me and it’s bumming me out.
Jan 06th 2022
33
      I like Black, but the lights out stuff only works in the ring entrance
Jan 06th 2022
34
           It’s bad and the crowd doesn’t know what to do with it either
Jan 06th 2022
36
                Lol.
Jan 06th 2022
39
                     The entrance is the thing that really works for me
Jan 06th 2022
41
Watched it again. Dude landed **right** on his elbow.
Jan 06th 2022
35
      Why did they replay it like 4-5 times?
Jan 06th 2022
40
           Apparently his arm isn't broken, just badly dislocated. Whew.
Jan 06th 2022
42
                id rather break my arm than dislocate my elbow 100 times out of 100
Jan 06th 2022
43
                Just saw that. How fortunate!
Jan 06th 2022
44
Dynamite 1/5 : TBS Debut
Jan 06th 2022
38
you are damn right about that last line
Jan 06th 2022
45
2.0 isnt bad
Jan 06th 2022
50
WALTER makes everything better
Jan 06th 2022
52
      Steiner is good enough to actually make someone on his way out imo
Jan 07th 2022
54
great pacing and format to go along with blah content
Jan 07th 2022
53
So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match
Jan 07th 2022
58
RE: So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match
Jan 08th 2022
59
Battle of the Belts wasn't exactly Clash of the Champions...
Jan 09th 2022
62
Adam Cole is #1 ranked?
Jan 09th 2022
65
well this couldnt have started any worse
Jan 12th 2022
66
so of course the rest has been great lol
Jan 12th 2022
67
      lost a little steam with Matt Hardy
Jan 12th 2022
68
           and I dont believe Sammy could beat up Daniel Garcia
Jan 12th 2022
69
                i was right. hes just not for me.
Jan 12th 2022
70
                     If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW
Jan 13th 2022
71
                          Punk is giving a masteclass in how to do a PROGRAM
Jan 14th 2022
72
                          RE: If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW
Jan 15th 2022
75
                               its been done for a minute.
Jan 16th 2022
77
was Adam Cole always this flabby?
Jan 15th 2022
73
RE: was Adam Cole always this flabby?
Jan 15th 2022
74
he looks terrible physically imo.
Jan 16th 2022
76
NXT name generator at it again: WALTER is now Gunther Shark
Jan 19th 2022
78
Oh, and is the NXT name generator broken or if not if gives WALTER...
Jan 19th 2022
79
      Incredible
Jan 19th 2022
80
I’m headed to Dynamite tonight boys!!!
Jan 19th 2022
81
NICE!!!
Jan 19th 2022
82
Cardona and Effy have been having an epic feud.
Jan 19th 2022
83
damn. i wanted to go and couldnt find a road dog :(
Jan 19th 2022
85
      He was at Harpos too
Jan 19th 2022
86
mask up! AEW doing big rona numbers
Jan 19th 2022
84
Dope! Have fun.
Jan 19th 2022
87
Dark and Dynamite, Rampage is live Friday but I’m out of town
Jan 19th 2022
88
ok we getting F bombs on TV
Jan 19th 2022
89
I was there ringside
Jan 20th 2022
92
      What did the asshole yell at Moxley? Couldn’t make it out on TV
Jan 20th 2022
93
           i saw somewhere: "get that drunk out of the ring"
Jan 22nd 2022
95
                and by "somewhere" i see i that i mean Tiger Woods' recap smhlol
Jan 22nd 2022
96
thank god for the Booker of the Year
Jan 19th 2022
90
So I’d say it’s almost guaranteed Gargano shows in AEW next week
Jan 20th 2022
91
Dynamite was, easily, the most fun I've had at a wrestling show
Jan 20th 2022
94
ive been saying it for like a year
Jan 22nd 2022
97
Nice!
Jan 25th 2022
99
they having a spelling bee on Raw right now lol
Jan 24th 2022
98
the MJF/Punk segment this week was something else
Jan 26th 2022
100
Sitting Indian style on top of Punk was -fabulous-
Jan 26th 2022
101
so disrespectful. with an uncomfortable amount of truth too.
Jan 27th 2022
102
they OD'd with the ladder spots
Jan 27th 2022
103
any one of them could have been THE high spot
Jan 27th 2022
105
the performers have too much leeway. It's the anti-WWE.
Jan 27th 2022
104
      i guarantee Khan thinks he makes a better show than Regal could
Jan 27th 2022
106
They've both pulled every lever in that feud perfectly
Jan 27th 2022
107
      RE: They've both pulled every lever in that feud perfectly
Jan 27th 2022
108
So I guess there’s going to be a Danhausen/Austin Gunn program
Jan 29th 2022
109
Is this the least excited I've been for a Rumble...
Jan 29th 2022
110
yes, and yes
Jan 29th 2022
111
whew nikki looks amazing
Jan 29th 2022
112
Maryse about to pop through the tv.
Jan 29th 2022
113
no NXT people in either rumble
Jan 29th 2022
114
RE: no NXT people in either rumble
Feb 01st 2022
137
Wrong post
Jan 30th 2022
115
Both Rumble showed the sad state of affairs in the WWE
Jan 30th 2022
116
Which is bonkers because they have a handful of guys that SHOULD
Jan 30th 2022
117
I feel like you have to try really hard...
Jan 30th 2022
118
Like even the Kofi spot was blunt and obvious
Jan 30th 2022
119
      Morrison has done that spot before.
Jan 31st 2022
124
Yup, although I’d say AJ is still at that level
Jan 31st 2022
122
end result of “none of this matters anyway” style booking
Jan 30th 2022
120
It's a bunch of stupid wasted opportunties
Jan 30th 2022
121
the final 5 men was an embarrassment
Jan 31st 2022
126
      McReasons, that's why
Jan 31st 2022
127
      Shane should have been in the teens and gotten one-hand pressed
Jan 31st 2022
130
Why would I ever watch the weekly shows
Jan 31st 2022
123
      Because.
Jan 31st 2022
128
Fairly certain Rousey leaving all loud was kayfabe
Jan 31st 2022
125
      it was.
Jan 31st 2022
134
Pure dog shit.
Jan 31st 2022
129
Dirt that Riddle was thrown around as possible rumble winner
Jan 31st 2022
131
yeah but a fart with cartoon birds!
Jan 31st 2022
135
i would've enjoyed a Riddle RR win. he should be bro Stone Cold
Feb 01st 2022
140
      RE: i would've enjoyed a Riddle RR win. he should be bro Stone Cold
Feb 03rd 2022
155
I think it's been 22 years since I missed a Royal Rumble
Jan 31st 2022
132
RE: I think it's been 22 years since I missed a Royal Rumble
Jan 31st 2022
133
      Only thing I enjoyed was Edge/Beth - Miz/Maryse
Jan 31st 2022
136
           I don't get the hate people have for Miz
Feb 01st 2022
138
                i dont think people really hate the Miz anymore like before
Feb 01st 2022
139
                I don't know about "hate", but he's pretty mediocre overall.
Feb 02nd 2022
141
                     He had the potential for one of the best angles going with Truth
Feb 02nd 2022
151
Grand re-opening, grand re-closing: Shane O Mac "quietly let go"
Feb 02nd 2022
142
Wow
Feb 02nd 2022
143
      Oh, I'm sure he's only responsible for some of it
Feb 02nd 2022
144
           Yeah, I feel the same way.
Feb 02nd 2022
145
                Is he even REALLY released?
Feb 02nd 2022
146
                Anyone who resigns gets what they deserve IMO
Feb 02nd 2022
147
                I mean, he probably signed a contract as a performer
Feb 02nd 2022
149
                KO like doing that shit for the money and the comfort tho
Feb 02nd 2022
150
                RE: Is he even REALLY released?
Feb 02nd 2022
152
                That's my guess.
Feb 02nd 2022
148
Bryan and Moxley stable would be fun
Feb 02nd 2022
153
I’m into it
Feb 03rd 2022
154
      RE: I’m into it
Feb 03rd 2022
156
Well, that was a downer end to Dynamite
Feb 03rd 2022
157
That's an upper to me, honestly
Feb 03rd 2022
158
Oh, I appreciate Punk's willingness to make MJF a bigger star
Feb 03rd 2022
159
hol up he won twice!?!
Feb 03rd 2022
160
i remember now. it was the Brandi segment that did me in
Feb 03rd 2022
161
      The Brandi segment was a mess.
Feb 03rd 2022
162
A classic. This angle is going to manage to make BOTH MJF and Wardlow
Feb 03rd 2022
163
      RE: A classic. This angle is going to manage to make BOTH MJF and Wardlo...
Feb 03rd 2022
164
Right on time, something we all love...
Feb 04th 2022
165
I saw Punk in Baltimore in 04, Danielson in New York in 06
Feb 05th 2022
166
      RE: I saw Punk in Baltimore in 04, Danielson in New York in 06
Feb 06th 2022
167
So I was at first excited about the Khan "announcement" on Wed....
Feb 07th 2022
168
Kross?
Feb 07th 2022
169
RE: So I was at first excited about the Khan "announcement" on Wed....
Feb 07th 2022
170
My immediate thought was Jeff Hardy
Feb 07th 2022
171
RE: So I was at first excited about the Khan "announcement" on Wed....
Feb 07th 2022
172
Last guesses?
Feb 09th 2022
173
Japan route would be the only interesting one to me
Feb 09th 2022
174
Keith Lee appears to be on his honeymoon
Feb 09th 2022
175
Even when I’m right, I’m wrong. SMH.
Feb 09th 2022
180
I'm also going to go with one of the Japan guys
Feb 09th 2022
177
Because Keith Lee swatting Cassidy away is a beautiful thing
Feb 10th 2022
183
      I will gladly take my L on that.
Feb 10th 2022
184
I'm gonna go with Samoa Joe
Feb 09th 2022
178
.
Feb 09th 2022
176
this MJF intro loooooooooool
Feb 09th 2022
179
Hangman/Archer was a little OD for me
Feb 09th 2022
181
RE: Hangman/Archer was a little OD for me
Feb 09th 2022
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RE: Hangman/Archer was a little OD for me
Feb 10th 2022
188
      i feel like the time to do that has come and gone
Feb 10th 2022
194
I agree, but the ending was great.
Feb 10th 2022
185
hard to do a match like that and NOT have it end up sloppy
Feb 10th 2022
186
      yeah that was a tight tag match
Feb 10th 2022
189
      Moxley's best match in AEW imo. by a lot.
Feb 10th 2022
192
Reminder: Vince had Keith Lee on the main roster and didn't know...
Feb 10th 2022
187
Give me Keith Lee v Darby Allin like NOW
Feb 10th 2022
190
Like, you even had him on your shows having WARS with Dijak
Feb 10th 2022
191
Man, I was saying this same exact thing last night
Feb 11th 2022
195
      Like, the square-off with Brock at the Rumble!
Feb 11th 2022
196
best Dynamite of 2022 by a country mile
Feb 10th 2022
193
RE: best Dynamite of 2022 by a country mile
Feb 14th 2022
201
      on talking and comedy:
Feb 16th 2022
227
           RE: on talking and comedy:
Feb 16th 2022
229
                The Pope is/was great on NWA
Feb 16th 2022
230
Seth's character is so fucking bad rn
Feb 14th 2022
197
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHHA HAHHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Feb 14th 2022
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      RE: HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHHA HAHHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Feb 14th 2022
199
This Brock interview on the Pat McAfee show is awesome
Feb 14th 2022
200
Yeah but then I gotta listen to Pat McAfee
Feb 15th 2022
211
wow...Cody and Brandi Rhodes leaving AEW
Feb 15th 2022
202
So, apparently Cody is bouncing. I assume to WWE
Feb 15th 2022
203
LMAO he'll get exactly what he deserves
Feb 15th 2022
204
I see some saying he'll help the AEW to WWE pipeline
Feb 15th 2022
206
      It's possible. But you're dead on about Vince
Feb 15th 2022
208
Losing Brandi is addition by subtraction
Feb 15th 2022
205
Also, if he goes to WWE, I want him vs Seth at Mania
Feb 15th 2022
207
RE: Also, if he goes to WWE, I want him vs Seth at Mania
Feb 15th 2022
209
      Weirdly AEW has been OK for WWE but death for NXT
Feb 15th 2022
213
      RE: Weirdly AEW has been OK for WWE but death for NXT
Feb 15th 2022
215
      LMAO@the Dolph hate. He does kind of have that X Pac vibe
Feb 15th 2022
216
      That’s cause they give Ziggler a shitload of money to stay
Feb 15th 2022
218
I wonder if this is a work
Feb 15th 2022
210
      RE: I wonder if this is a work
Feb 15th 2022
212
      I seriously doubt it. Keller has covered the situation for a minute
Feb 15th 2022
214
Probably an unpopular opinion: I hope Cody keeps his theme
Feb 15th 2022
217
100%. In fact, make it MORE elaborate, if that’s possible.
Feb 15th 2022
219
So do we make of the idea of Austin coming back at WM?
Feb 15th 2022
220
Zero interest.
Feb 15th 2022
221
My two impulse responses:
Feb 15th 2022
222
Dumb, dangerous, and contrived
Feb 15th 2022
223
he would do way more for them on weekly TV w/o wrestling
Feb 15th 2022
224
Didn’t he break his foot while stunning Byron Saxton?
Feb 16th 2022
225
didn’t get about snap his shit up doing a stunner last time
Feb 16th 2022
226
RE: So do we make of the idea of Austin coming back at WM?
Feb 16th 2022
228
ok so Moriarty can go a little bit
Feb 16th 2022
231
RE: ok so Moriarty can go a little bit
Feb 18th 2022
234
That was a fun show last night
Feb 17th 2022
232
RE: That was a fun show last night
Feb 17th 2022
233
If the Cody angle is really he & Miz vs Mysterios…
Feb 19th 2022
235
Where is that being reported?
Feb 19th 2022
236
Apparently…
Feb 19th 2022
237
Whew
Feb 21st 2022
241
So what was the point of the men’s Royal Rumble?
Feb 20th 2022
238
wasnt paul e supposed to fuck brock on new years?
Feb 20th 2022
239
Reigns screwing him over in the Lashley match
Feb 20th 2022
240
RE: So what was the point of the men’s Royal Rumble?
Feb 21st 2022
242
this PPV has a very tepid feel
Feb 23rd 2022
243
RE: this PPV has a very tepid feel
Feb 23rd 2022
244
their fucking Page up big time imo
Feb 24th 2022
246
also, i should say
Feb 24th 2022
248
Are they gonna bleed twice? Punk/MJF and also BD/Mox? I hate that if so
Feb 24th 2022
245
what do you mean??
Feb 24th 2022
247
      haha. My opinion on color is "less is more"
Feb 24th 2022
249
I'm looking forward to everything except the Andrade six-man
Feb 24th 2022
250
thats 100% the lowest point for me as well
Feb 24th 2022
252
      RE: thats 100% the lowest point for me as well
Feb 25th 2022
263
im looking forward to most of that card
Feb 24th 2022
251
      RE: im looking forward to most of that card
Feb 24th 2022
253
Cesaro quietly exits WWE
Feb 24th 2022
254
RE: Cesaro quietly exits WWE
Feb 24th 2022
256
Apparently Cesaro is now a free agent
Feb 24th 2022
255
I dont know how to say this without it coming off insensitive but
Feb 25th 2022
257
whatever it is, I'm loving it
Feb 25th 2022
258
I was not being critical of him at all, he's fantastic
Feb 25th 2022
259
      RE: I was not being critical of him at all, he's fantastic
Feb 25th 2022
261
100%
Feb 25th 2022
260
The only problem is that would be exactly like his match with Cody
Feb 25th 2022
262
I see this being the swerve as well, that's Corny's call too
Feb 28th 2022
271
Promo of the year and it’s only February
Feb 25th 2022
264
      RE: Promo of the year and it’s only February
Feb 25th 2022
265
Going to 2 GCW shows this weekend
Feb 25th 2022
266
How were they?
Feb 27th 2022
269
      Very fun, although Night 1 ended with people throwing shit
Feb 27th 2022
270
           Deppen loves to wear his Ron Artest jersey here
Feb 28th 2022
272
           RE: Very fun, although Night 1 ended with people throwing shit
Feb 28th 2022
273
Now they're talking a Vince vs. MacAfee match to WM
Feb 26th 2022
267
it doesnt seem like a hot shot to me
Feb 27th 2022
268
      RE: it doesnt seem like a hot shot to me
Feb 28th 2022
274
           The thing is they already put the work into building Big E
Mar 01st 2022
282
they added Pootie Tang SFX to Bianca's hair whip lol
Feb 28th 2022
275
Please tell me you’re joking
Feb 28th 2022
276
      link
Feb 28th 2022
277
           actually that noise really was legit
Feb 28th 2022
278
                Jesus!
Mar 01st 2022
279
                Becky's belly says they're legit:
Mar 01st 2022
280
                sonic boooooom
Mar 01st 2022
281
Everybody really does love The Acclaimed
Mar 02nd 2022
283
They’ve been steadily getting themselves over
Mar 03rd 2022
284
RE: They’ve been steadily getting themselves over
Mar 03rd 2022
287
      RE: They’ve been steadily getting themselves over
Mar 03rd 2022
293
      the whole bit is A1
Mar 03rd 2022
294
i wish they could start winning some fucking matches
Mar 04th 2022
295
Khan buying ROH seems pretty big
Mar 03rd 2022
285
HBOMax has been thrown out there
Mar 03rd 2022
286
RE: Khan buying ROH seems pretty big
Mar 03rd 2022
288
RE: Khan buying ROH seems pretty big
Mar 03rd 2022
290
AEW is becoming bloated. I hope it stays as a second brand
Mar 03rd 2022
292
Punk/MJF - of course it is great
Mar 03rd 2022
289
Also, they shifted the focus off of Wardlow
Mar 03rd 2022
291
my only problem is...i still want MJF to win
Mar 04th 2022
296
      feel same as you but only because I'm dumfounded by the greatness
Mar 04th 2022
297
      was Rusev getting cucked by Lashley that long ago???
Mar 04th 2022
298
           I'd go back further to the gilded age of "Who is Hornswoggle's father?"
Mar 04th 2022
300
                2 for 2
Mar 04th 2022
301
                     Gene Snitksy: Punter of Babies
Mar 04th 2022
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                          Katie Vick.
Mar 04th 2022
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                          RE: Gene Snitksy: Punter of Babies
Mar 04th 2022
304
      RE: my only problem is...i still want MJF to win
Mar 04th 2022
299
This Vince interview with Pat
Mar 05th 2022
305

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1. "thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?"
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the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have black friends" energy.

one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to hotshot some up to that level.

on the women's side idk how much a bone she has to pick. its real diverse on that side and Jade is getting a super push.

i also read her comments to mean she doesnt think Brandi looks out for any of us at all.

random aside from that
- idk where the WWE found Nikkita Lyons at but my god. talk about thick. they need to get her in some better ring gear though it looks like she's in bubble wrap. she could be legit though. looks athletic af on her IG.
- Big E got hosed his entire run.
- i think its lame Brock has the belt again but he seems a little more into it than usual
- they missed a trick not getting Beth Phoenix into some hot brood vampire outfit.
- Sheamus beating Ricochet/Cesaro 1v2 after his partner got injured was actually dope, even though they should've adjusted the finish. I rarely enjoy Sheamus.

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2. "TK is weird on shit like this"
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I don’t know why he feels the need to tweet. He always ends up saying some ill-advised, petty shit. Also, merely naming all the black wrestlers on the roster is not going to address the concerns. She’s not the first person to say this stuff either. Tons of people have.

He needs media training as it is. There was this bit of weirdness a few months back…

https://www.cagesideseats.com/platform/amp/aew/2021/11/11/22777201/tony-khan-all-women-wrestling-shows-very-bad-answer-aew-money-nwa-empowerrr


>it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.

Keith Lee will solve a lot of their problems if they sign him and book him right.

  

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9. "yeah he doesnt seem to understand the media game of it all"
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3. "RE: thoughts on the whole Big Swole/TK mess?"
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>the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity
>issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have
>black friends" energy.
>
>one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens
>personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs
>some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.
>
>on the women's side idk how much a bone she has to pick. its
>real diverse on that side and Jade is getting a super push.
>
>i also read her comments to mean she doesnt think Brandi looks
>out for any of us at all.
>
>random aside from that
>- idk where the WWE found Nikkita Lyons at but my god. talk
>about thick. they need to get her in some better ring gear
>though it looks like she's in bubble wrap. she could be legit
>though. looks athletic af on her IG.
>- Big E got hosed his entire run.
>- i think its lame Brock has the belt again but he seems a
>little more into it than usual
>- they missed a trick not getting Beth Phoenix into some hot
>brood vampire outfit.
>- Sheamus beating Ricochet/Cesaro 1v2 after his partner got
>injured was actually dope, even though they should've adjusted
>the finish. I rarely enjoy Sheamus.

I hope Swoll gets a shot to end up being great and she kills it somewhere. Impact keeps on showing reasonable wrestling. Maybe she can do that up.

Brandy? Man, I don’t know that lady but she’s never come off as amazingly likable. Still, it sucks that she’s going to get looks and/or comments whenever black folks have an issue in AEW. What is she actually for real in charge of?

I don’t know what to think of the Tony part of this stuff. Tony is a rich kid more than he’s any race in my mind. I could see him having all sorts of blind spots even when he means well. If he keeps his ears open and tries to make things right, cool. Zoomed out, this mfer came out of nowhere, unassed mountains of money and created a whole ass wrestling company and now LOTS of people have somewhere big to work in the US other than WWE. And besides Jericho, the group they started with was a parade of dudes that most of the average US rasslin watchers had never seen. Okay, they got Moxley pretty early too but c’mon now..you get what I’m saying here. AEW is basically an expensive as hell indy. For that, I’m probably going to lean on ‘give this dude a chance’..at least for now. And the way my mind works, he’d have to completely step in it with a tweet for me to even consider turning on him cuz fuck Twitter in general. Too many people are on there parsing words and dying to make up something to ‘care about’ negatively.

I just hope race stuff doesn’t derail all of the good they’ve done so far. And really, we all know it’s kinda shitty if it turns into ‘grab a random black person and push them down people’s throat cuz…yeah, black peoples are kewl with us over here! Yessir they are!’. I would like to see some more Jay Lethal tho! He’s close to his last days in-ring and deserves his flowers for turning into a really good wrestler.

Man, the first reply you got from pretend is IT..KEEF LEE in AEW could and should be a damn party if dude is healthy and pretty much even kinda sorta in-shape. And maybe it would keep the pitchfork folks at bay at bit. Since we’re here, what about this? If people who are claiming to be ‘done’ with TK right now still watched WWE after the Booker T/HHH shit, they aren’t serious anyway. Booker T heavily experienced and obviously ready to roll and they hosed the shit out of him after HHH basically called him a jailbird jiggaboo for months going into that Mania. Lee could give them a shot to redo that angle and then have the semi-racist dude show up AND GET HIS ASS COMPLETELY KICKED. Ala what should’ve happened to Haitch.

Big E man? Yeah, he got jobbed. He might be screwed if they’re desperate to ‘create a spark’ or whatever. And all of the ‘everything sucks and I’m sad’ propaganda online plus Rona/live attendance stuff didn’t help. I don’t see how he gets the title back anytime soon. He’d be a damn good time in AEW too. Premature typing! I’ll stop here.

  

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4. "RE: Lyons"
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Holy moly! WWE is taking it all the way with all of these good looking human beings they keep finding. She’s another one. That’s for sure. Toni Storm is a party of positive bigness too. This lady is more of that if that’s even possible.

>the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity
>issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have
>black friends" energy.
>
>one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens
>personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs
>some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.
>
>on the women's side idk how much a bone she has to pick. its
>real diverse on that side and Jade is getting a super push.
>
>i also read her comments to mean she doesnt think Brandi looks
>out for any of us at all.
>
>random aside from that
>- idk where the WWE found Nikkita Lyons at but my god. talk
>about thick. they need to get her in some better ring gear
>though it looks like she's in bubble wrap. she could be legit
>though. looks athletic af on her IG.
>- Big E got hosed his entire run.
>- i think its lame Brock has the belt again but he seems a
>little more into it than usual
>- they missed a trick not getting Beth Phoenix into some hot
>brood vampire outfit.
>- Sheamus beating Ricochet/Cesaro 1v2 after his partner got
>injured was actually dope, even though they should've adjusted
>the finish. I rarely enjoy Sheamus.

  

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5. "It's a weird situation"
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Honestly, I understand it. At the beginning of the COVID Daly's Place shows, the women's division was essentially her, Britt Baker, Nyla Rose, and Shida. Now it's big enough to require two titles, and she can't even get into the tournament for the second. Jade Cargill's taken her spot, and there's likely to even more talent coming in once all the other NXT/WWE no compete clauses expire (Mercedes Martinez is just the first). However, as others have said, the Women's Division is actually pretty diverse, so it did come off sounding like sour grapes.

>the cliffs of it is she called out some of the diversity
>issues she saw in AEW. TK jumped off the porch w/ the "i have
>black friends" energy.

Yeah, TK completely bungled the response. You'd think being the scion of Shad would give some saviness, but apparently not.

>one thing i will say is they do need a top black mens
>personality. Hobbs can get there in 3 years or so but he needs
>some time in the oven. it should be their #1 priority for this
>year to either sign that person, or figure out a way to
>hotshot some up to that level.
>
There are clearly issues. Like you said, Hobbs isn't quite there yet, and needs more time to be on the World title level. They obviously see ton of potential in Dante Martin, but the kid is only 20 and still looks like he's 12, and needs more to time to develop. The Acclaimed could be something fairly soon. Lee Moriarty clearly has a shit ton of potential as well. I like Lio Rush, but it's not clear how committed he was to AEW even before this (and he was the one who immediately called on TK to apologizie) or to pro wrestling in general, given his many retirements. And, you, he's **is** really tiny. Smaller than Darby, even.

I think the best short-term solution is Jay Lethal. He's obviously super-talented and can be super over. But I think he's only been on TV twice since they announced his signing.

I do find it weird that she tried to say that WWE has been demonstrably better at inclusivity . Especially since literally the day after she made the comments, they killed the completely bungled Big E run. WWE, like every other major federation, doesn't have a very good history when it comes to Black champions.

The comment that got lost in this is her saying that the company doesn't have enough structure. Which is usually the Jim Cornette POV. While I think the lack of structure does occasionally have drawbacks (see: Cody and the Young Bucks in the last year), it's also the reason that generally most of the people on the roster seem pretty happy while they're there. You might not get the pay-offs of WWE, but you get forced into doing REALLY dumb shit either.

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6. "RE: OKPW: 2022, we comin for you, *****!"
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>I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept that he
>can’t help himself with certain things and people. I know to take his
>anger over that stuff/those people with a grain of salt so I can enjoy
>the rest of his stuff.

I'll say it again: he sticks to older stuff and he's an amazing fount of knowledge. He's just insufferable when it comes to commenting on most modern product. As with most cases, his nick-names aren't nearly as clever as he thinks they are, and hearing him whine that FTR don't win enough matches gets really old.

>NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out their
>kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids come out of it
>better off eventually. The tv exposure is a double-edged sword methinks
>in the complain festival environment.

They really should put NXT back onto the Network/Peacock only. Trotting out most of these not-ready-for prime time players is embarrassing. The WWE can probably make better use of the two-hour slot on a cable network. Right now, it's losing rating battle to L&O reruns.

>Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re too self-aware
>to not have a plan of some kind with this. We shall see. And what are
>they going to do with all of these doggone still free agents!?

They've certainly been spending the last few weeks establishing Wardlow laying waste to everyone. So they could do the Brodie Lee thing and have Wardlow completely annihilate Cody and to turn him the biggest face in the company. They finally split up him and MJF, making MJF an even bigger mega-heel in the process.

Or they could go the other direction, and finally have Cody use the Pedigree against someone super-popular on the rise (like Hook), and cause the whole arena to riot.

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7. "Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:"
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>
>Or they could go the other direction, and finally have Cody
>use the Pedigree against someone super-popular on the rise
>(like Hook), and cause the whole arena to riot.

  

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8. "RE: Jesus, great idea. There's huge money in this:"
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>
>>
>>Or they could go the other direction, and finally have Cody
>>use the Pedigree against someone super-popular on the rise
>>(like Hook), and cause the whole arena to riot.
>

Wow. That would be good. The ‘I don’t get that I’m a heel (wink)’ heel CAN be big fun. And if done right, you take advantage of how marks get mad about things now. I think about 97/98 self-righteous Bret Hart as a prime example.

It’s dangerous tho. And when a show like AEW gets to this point, it could work so far counter to how they started out: a company that was made to have good matches and ‘serve the fans’. Now they have to trust the ‘fans’ to get that having a BIG ASS HEEL is one of the best ways to serve the fans. Because then, some babyface somewhere gets the rub of taking out that heel at some point.

But do the Twittery folks who think AEW is the white knight saving American wrestling from the ultra evil big money corporation that is WWE get this? Or no? Maybe we will see!

  

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12. "I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?"
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>It’s dangerous tho. And when a show like AEW gets to this
>point, it could work so far counter to how they started out: a
>company that was made to have good matches and ‘serve the
>fans’. Now they have to trust the ‘fans’ to get that
>having a BIG ASS HEEL is one of the best ways to serve the
>fans. Because then, some babyface somewhere gets the rub of
>taking out that heel at some point.

Because Hangman being the guy to come back and take him out seems like that.

>But do the Twittery folks who think AEW is the white knight
>saving American wrestling from the ultra evil big money
>corporation that is WWE get this? Or no? Maybe we will see!

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13. "RE: I mean isn't that what they did with Kenny?"
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>>It’s dangerous tho. And when a show like AEW gets to this
>>point, it could work so far counter to how they started out:
>a
>>company that was made to have good matches and ‘serve the
>>fans’. Now they have to trust the ‘fans’ to get that
>>having a BIG ASS HEEL is one of the best ways to serve the
>>fans. Because then, some babyface somewhere gets the rub of
>>taking out that heel at some point.
>
>Because Hangman being the guy to come back and take him out
>seems like that.
>

Yep. But look at how that went. Corny (who has hated Omega for a good while) and lots of the internet couldn’t take it. All of a sudden there was lots of Omega hate flying around when, at least to me, it was obvious that he was going out of his way to be an unlikable, terrible, and/or cowardly heel. He gave Hangman a big heel target to take out. And even the Bucks had to ‘stand by’ and let it happen when the time came. But entirely too many people acted like that story was somehow ridiculous for a wrestling show. I didn’t get the confusion at all.

To make it even more clean, he got beat then went the fuck away!

We hear a lot about how wrestlers now focus too much on ‘having good matches’ as opposed to telling stories and playing their roles. But, based on what I saw, Kenny played the shit out of his role. He earned the ass-kicking he got and now he’s somewhere licking his wounds.

So now we come back to Cody. And it’s not obvious what he’s doing right now? But he has to get that people fucking hate him (and his fine ass wife). He’s winning matches that people don’t want him to win. He’s acting like a conquering hero while people boo and the announcers acknowledge the boos. Sounds like HHH reign of terror heel stuff to me!? So now we just need a little bit of cheating and we’re there, but will people get it and appreciate it? And of course, he’s going to be built up so that some babyface person gets to take him out. But can people wait for it? It doesn’t seem like they can.

>>But do the Twittery folks who think AEW is the white knight
>>saving American wrestling from the ultra evil big money
>>corporation that is WWE get this? Or no? Maybe we will see!
>

  

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14. "I think a lot of that was cemented with the deathmatch"
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Whoever fucked up the fireworks, they had an opportunity to go with it and have Omega come out on the stage right after laughing. But just like Cody getting busted open by Spears, they tried to have it both ways and let most of the week go talking about "how disappointed they were" until Callis "could neither confirm or deny" in a promo. If they just had Kenny playing Mox and Eddie for marks from the beginning, he comes off like a better, more complete heel. And the promo they followed up with would have still worked.

I think honestly a lot of people lost trust in him after that, and he barely got it back from the epic with Danielson.

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10. "Not a good sign that I keep forgetting about Wrestle Kingdom"
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And it’s happening like right now. I pretty much checked out after G1 and I think a lot of other folks did too. I heard the Super Junior tourney was pretty good, but just couldn’t make the time for it.

WK is actually a good card, especially this first night, but the product is ice cold rn. The main event scene has been cursed during the COVID era, they introduced a new World Title belt that everyone hates, some of the gaijin either can’t or won’t travel to Japan, and even the clap crowds groan at the House of Torture booking.

Still, there are reasons for optimism. The 50th anniversary is this year, so they definitely want it to be memorable. It seems like everyone is getting relatively healthy at the same time. And the Shibata return could be huge.

I think/hope they make a big splash over the next few days and carry that momentum. They really need it. I’m guessing Okada makes it out of tonight/tomorrow with the championship and gets rid of the Divas title, but more than individual results, they just need these matches to create some buzz. I want to come back here and say “you guys HAVE to drop everything to watch _______ vs. _______.”

  

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I don't know who to cheer for in this main event. Shingo retaining would be huge for his title defenses. To say you beat Okada at the Tokyo Dome would be huge. I really want that old belt back though, and Okada winning would accomplish that. I'm conflicted.

I could see Okada winning night one and Will beating him on night 2. I don't know what to think, I just want some banger matches for both nights.

HoT has GOT to go. That is for sure.

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17. "SPOILERS"
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I really want
>that old belt back though, and Okada winning would accomplish
>that. I'm conflicted.

Fuck. Okada is keeping the new title. He looks so weird with it lol. Ah well… guess we gotta get used to it now.

>
>I could see Okada winning night one and Will beating him on
>night 2. I don't know what to think, I just want some banger
>matches for both nights.

I figured Okada was gonna win cause they want that popular babyface for the 50th anniversary/return of real crowds that can hopefully cheer and boo. Ospreay will get his big WO moment with the title soon enough (probably next year). Shingo is great, but there was no way his reign was gonna last past WK. Glad he got his run with the title. He is easily the MVP of the past year and carried them through an extraordinarily difficult time.

I liked Night 2 better than Night 1. I was a tad let down overall, but the last 3 matches all delivered and I really enjoyed the Stardom showcase. My favorite match was Kenta vs. Tanahashi. That was brutal.

I was surprised by some results. United Empire lost big here, which makes me think the story of the next WK will be them taking a bunch of gold.

I really gotta start watching Stardom. Been hearing great stuff, and I was impressed by the match, even if they didn’t get the chance to get their characters across. Saya Kamitani’s finisher was bananas.

  

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15. "Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG"
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Danielson by good screw job

  

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I don’t know who the other two judges will be, but I’m guessing #3 will be Omega. Who won’t call it for either. Setting up a third match.

I will say that Page will eventually win, because they can’t really do anything with him if he loses to his first challenger.

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18. "RE: Danielson/Hangman 2 tonight. LFG"
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>
>Danielson by good screw job

I got the same happening. Some sort of wacky split decision that goes Bryan’s favor even though Hangman was about to pin him again.

Idk, maybe that’s too WCW, but I think they want to shock/anger people on their first TBS show to get them to keep tuning in.

I think a lot of people are nervous about taking the title off of Hangman so soon, which I get, but they are clearly invested in the guy and in long-term storytelling. He’ll be fine if he loses. I think they’ve struck something special with this “I’m gonna kick your head in” Danielson and they should probably ride it.

  

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19. "Hangman by judges decision"
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Bryan's too hot rn he needs his bubble popped a bit to really go off the deep end w/ it. I think his own conceit failing him would do it.

But there's a lot of ways you can go w/ either person winning and w/ a variety of finishes (clean, dirty, judges decision, even an injury work) and press on w/ an interesting story.

Regardless I do think Hangman needs to win. He'd be fine w/ an L but I'm looking at really solidifying a star. Beating Omega is one thing but he aint Bryan. I'm also just really put off by how Big E's whole run was. They did him absolutely dirty.

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20. "well nvm they were straight up brawling"
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Hangman got some amazing bloody face images tonight

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21. "As soon as I saw the judges, I knew Hangman was going to win…"
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…by pintall. Three popular guys, no controversial picks. Then I noticed with all the matches/segments planned, it wasn’t going to an hour. Then considering that Cargill is almost certainly going to win the tittle in the main event, I knew that they weren’t going to have the heels win all the big matches. And certainly not after the heels basically all won last week.

Still good and completely different match than last time. More evenly matched. And Bryan had a serious crimson mask as well.

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23. "Brutal, a blast. They should do it every month. "
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I think they’re gonna come back to that sooner than later.

  

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22. "Not like this Jericho, not like this "
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Bad dye job, worse promo, awful segment

  

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26. "you mean to tell me he doesn't have jet black hair???"
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>Bad dye job, worse promo, awful segment

  

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24. "man they cussing a lot on TBS lmao"
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really bringing back the feeling.

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25. "Mo’ WWE releases"
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This time it looks like the focus was backstage folks and trainers. Alrighty.

https://tjrwrestling.net/news/wwe-release-janaury-5-2022/

Man, they really are serious about transitioning from whatever they were doing before. Haitch is gonna show back up and it’s only gonna be HBK from his crew.

>Reigns has the rona but hopefully he’s fine.
>
>Brock is enjoying himself and is now the Raw champ. Lashley vs
>Lesnar is gonna happen and it’s gonna be GREAT as long as
>Brock plays ball.
>
>Toni Storm flew home and quit WWE and the internet doesn’t
>know why yet. We shall see/I hope she’s okay. She’s 26.
>
>Charlotte and Becky are holding belts still. So is Britt
>Baker.
>
>I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept
>that he can’t help himself with certain things and people. I
>know to take his anger over that stuff/those people with a
>grain of salt so I can enjoy the rest of his stuff.
>
>We still have Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and
>others back from retirement mostly doing good stuff.
>
>Random indy stuff is going down. ROH is gone-ish.
>
>Wrestle Kingdom is coming too. Shibata and Will are back!?
>Nice.
>
>NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out
>their kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids
>come out of it better off eventually. The tv exposure is a
>double-edged sword methinks in the complain festival
>environment.
>
>Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re
>too self-aware to not have a plan of some kind with this. We
>shall see. And what are they going to do with all of these
>doggone still free agents!?
>
>Last thing for now before we head towards BD vs Hangman this
>week, good tag team rasslin is happening on both AEW and WWE.
>

  

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27. "fuck them for getting rid of Regal"
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He was the perfect authority figure. I'm all the way checked out of NXT 2.0 and I think this guarantees I won't be returning. There's enough great wrestling out there to fill the time with.

  

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30. "There was zero point in firing Regal"
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Like, okay, you don’t want him on TV anymore as an authority figure. Fine. But why fire him as a trainer? You’ve completely reshaped the product as a breeding ground for young talent, and you fire a trainer with 30+ years of ring experience. Morons.

It looks like it’s down to HBK and Samoa Joe in the training roles. I’m a bit surprised that they didn’t fire Joe a second time.

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37. "RE: There was zero point in firing Regal"
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>Like, okay, you don’t want him on TV anymore as an
>authority figure. Fine. But why fire him as a trainer?
>You’ve completely reshaped the product as a breeding ground
>for young talent, and you fire a trainer with 30+ years of
>ring experience. Morons.
>
>It looks like it’s down to HBK and Samoa Joe in the training
>roles. I’m a bit surprised that they didn’t fire Joe a
>second time.

It all seems like a strong reaction to the nxt/AEW ratings stuff and shit..it seems like a heavy-handed punishment toward HHH himself. Like there’s some kind of power struggle and Haitch is losing right now.

  

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55. "telling that the power struggle starts AFTER a "cardiac event""
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seems like a heavy-handed punishment toward
>HHH himself. Like there’s some kind of power struggle and
>Haitch is losing right now.

for as much as people hated his wrestling run after a while, im starting to really admire the guy for laying it on the line for a vision of wrestling that was his own.

makes me wonder what he could do as just a traditional booker for AEW were not part of the McMahon family

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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46. "You spoke too soon haha"
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>It looks like it’s down to HBK and Samoa Joe in the training
>roles. I’m a bit surprised that they didn’t fire Joe a
>second time.

  

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47. "Wouldn’t be surprised if SDR is outta there next"
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Would LOVE to see her make a return to performance in AEW and run a few against Rosa and Britt.

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48. "Ha. Of course he was canned."
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Maybe he can finally come and be a commentator on Rampage. I always figured they probably wanted Joe for the job that they gave Mark Henry. I like Henry, but he seemed lost in the limited time he was in the booth.

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49. "If Joe is cleared, I want him wrestling"
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dogg, gimme Punk/Joe on a PPV with a crowd of 16,000 people

  

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51. "IF Joe is cleared, there's a whole host of dream matches to be had"
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Punk, Danielson, MJF, Cole, Page, etc. Shoot, a Joe vs. Team Taz feud would be epic.

He's gonna need some time shake off the ring rust (he didn't look so good in that one match with Kross), but once he's ready, he's money.

I was operating under the assumption that he isn't wrestling anymore.

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56. "the last time i tried to watch RAW was like 2017"
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and Joe was so easily the best part of the whole show that he actually seemed out of place

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57. "The way they just nerfed him to Brock, man…"
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The build-up was white-hot, then they let Joe get in half a match of offense, and poof- one F5 and that was it and he didn’t get another shot.

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60. "he seemed like a throwback in all the best ways"
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i can close my eyes and picture Gary Hart talking about how Joe was gonna be the guy to shut Dusty Rhodes up FOR GOOD, and myself being worried that he might be right.

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61. "What makes him even greater is that he doesn't need a Gary Hart"
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Dude is monster in the ring who's phenomenal on the stick.

I find it absolutely bizarre that Vince/Nick Khan would fire this guy twice in a year. They might not even have 30 guys to put in the Royal Rumble this year, and he gets fired. Shoot, with Brock now on RAW, they could have slotted him in to feud with Roman until it's time for Wrestlemania.

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63. "Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns"
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>Dude is monster in the ring who's phenomenal on the stick.
>
>I find it absolutely bizarre that Vince/Nick Khan would fire
>this guy twice in a year. They might not even have 30 guys to
>put in the Royal Rumble this year, and he gets fired. Shoot,
>with Brock now on RAW, they could have slotted him in to feud
>with Roman until it's time for Wrestlemania.

I get that WWE isn’t going to make every indie darling the top champ, but there are so many cases where you just scratch your head and go “how did they mess this up?” Especially when it’s clear that WWE is struggling to come up with credible challengers.

My biggest example of this is Shinsuke back in 2018. He was SO over and they made him look like a huge deal for months. So why have him turn on AJ Styles AFTER losing his title shot, then have him lose 1,000 rematches in a row? If Shinsuke turned heel during the match to win, held the title for a few months, and then AJ won it back… who would that hurt? No one would think lesser of AJ, and then you have Shinsuke on a level where he can easily challenge for a title once every year or so and look like a credible threat. If you do that with guys like Shinsuke, Joe, or Keith Lee, then you don’t have to throw millions at Goldberg every few months when you’re in a tough spot. Instead, one of them is in the mid-card forever and Vince cut the other two cause they’re not as chiseled as Randy Orton.

That’s why I can’t fully complain about Kofi or Big E’s title runs. Obviously the way their title reigns ended was bullshit, especially Kofi’s, but at least they’ll be one of those guys for the rest of their career. They’ll likely never win the title again, but you can easily plug them into a fun title feud as a credible challenger at any point. WWE has like 12-14 ppvs a year, they NEED credible threats like that desperately, but they throw away most of their chances to make guys like that.

  

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64. "RE: Yeah, he woulda been perfect going against this version of Reigns"
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>>Dude is monster in the ring who's phenomenal on the stick.
>>
>>I find it absolutely bizarre that Vince/Nick Khan would fire
>>this guy twice in a year. They might not even have 30 guys
>to
>>put in the Royal Rumble this year, and he gets fired. Shoot,
>>with Brock now on RAW, they could have slotted him in to
>feud
>>with Roman until it's time for Wrestlemania.
>
>I get that WWE isn’t going to make every indie darling the
>top champ, but there are so many cases where you just scratch
>your head and go “how did they mess this up?” Especially
>when it’s clear that WWE is struggling to come up with
>credible challengers.
>
>My biggest example of this is Shinsuke back in 2018. He was SO
>over and they made him look like a huge deal for months. So
>why have him turn on AJ Styles AFTER losing his title shot,
>then have him lose 1,000 rematches in a row? If Shinsuke
>turned heel during the match to win, held the title for a few
>months, and then AJ won it back… who would that hurt? No one
>would think lesser of AJ, and then you have Shinsuke on a
>level where he can easily challenge for a title once every
>year or so and look like a credible threat. If you do that
>with guys like Shinsuke, Joe, or Keith Lee, then you don’t
>have to throw millions at Goldberg every few months when
>you’re in a tough spot. Instead, one of them is in the
>mid-card forever and Vince cut the other two cause they’re
>not as chiseled as Randy Orton.
>
>That’s why I can’t fully complain about Kofi or Big E’s
>title runs. Obviously the way their title reigns ended was
>bullshit, especially Kofi’s, but at least they’ll be one
>of those guys for the rest of their career. They’ll likely
>never win the title again, but you can easily plug them into a
>fun title feud as a credible challenger at any point. WWE has
>like 12-14 ppvs a year, they NEED credible threats like that
>desperately, but they throw away most of their chances to make
>guys like that.

But then they pay Owens to be a hand. Aka a person to take bumps in multi person matches. He’s basically a fat Ziggler to me..they’ve ruined him to the point where I don’t care at all when I see him and I know to ignore anything he’s doing if a big title is involved. I basically only care when they throw him in with Sami cuz I know they can do great stuff even on autopilot.

Samoa Joe being hurt and catching hell getting/staying cleared has to hurt him with WWE brass who don’t really get how grand he can be. Aew basically has to sign him for like 2 years to take the free badass matches he can have before he goes to the booth. Punk, Brian, Omega, some young guy who could use a key win after they make Joe look like Balrog, Page (either one), someone!

I wonder how much longer the New Day crew has with WWE honestly. It seems like they are checking boxes to pay those guys back for selling a bunch of Booty-Os and unicorn horns. Once Xavier isn’t king anymore, what else is there? Maybe they all can be in the ‘not gonna win but throw them in the title match’ category you mentioned? But they’re all starting to get ‘old’ so I dunno. Maybe they slap together a midcard heel crew role for Big E to hoss it up vs some babyfaces for a while?

Since we’re here, is Cesaro hurt? I swear he could be slinging European uppercuts to Okada, Moose, Gresham, or Hangman Page somewhere before coming back to WWE to help train these football players and weightlifting champions at the PC.

  

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28. "Aaaaaand Fenix just broke his arm on live TV"
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I'm 99% sure they gave the titles to Jurassic Express cause they instantly realized how bad that injury was.

  

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29. "Nah, that seemed like the planned finished"
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Given the time that spot was def meant to take Fenix out of the rest of the match, all the graphics for the title change being ready, all the heel teams coming out after, and looked like JB's family was in the crowd.

  

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32. "Good point"
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>Given the time that spot was def meant to take Fenix out of
>the rest of the match, all the graphics for the title change
>being ready, all the heel teams coming out after, and looked
>like JB's family was in the crowd.

I was crying too much to truly notice all this.

  

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31. "The table spot and the title change were planned..."
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...but clearly not Fenix's arm bending the complete wrong way.

But yeah, all the heel tag teams coming out to "congratulate" the Jurassic Express was coordinated and wouldn't have worked if the Luchas had retained. I'm guessing the Luchas were about to transition to a feud with Malachi and an incoming Brody King. So much for that. Though I guess it can be Penta and Pac vs. the House of Black.

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33. "Malachi is not hitting for me and it’s bumming me out."
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Maybe Brody can help, but idk, the presentation just isn’t clicking. None of the lights out, lights on moments really make any sense and his face paint looks absurd. I loved Tommy End and Aleister Black (NXT Edition), but something about this just ain’t working.

  

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34. "I like Black, but the lights out stuff only works in the ring entrance"
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Tonight it happened twice for no reason. The first one seemed especially pointless.

Honestly, I’m going to blame Cody for all of this. Things haven’t been quite clicking since he decided to even further draw out their feud.

But im hoping bringing in King will get things going again.

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36. "It’s bad and the crowd doesn’t know what to do with it either "
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When the lights went out and they just switched places from Luchas on the ramp to in the ring and Black moved to the ramp ? Wow, that was spectacularly bad.

  

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39. "Lol."
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>When the lights went out and they just switched places from
>Luchas on the ramp to in the ring and Black moved to the ramp
>? Wow, that was spectacularly bad.

He also needs new music that hits as hard as his WWE song. It’s just a weird vibe every time he comes out and it’s getting basically no pop.

  

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41. "The entrance is the thing that really works for me"
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It's suitably creepy, and I think the music helps with that. I'm certainly no fan of death metal of any sort, but I think it works in this case.

But yeah, him and the Lucha Bros. switching places was beyond pointless. He needs another way to establish his creepiness beyond his entrance and the mist. I'm hoping King will help things along.

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35. "Watched it again. Dude landed **right** on his elbow. "
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It was all bent to shit after that.

Sucks. Dude was getting into a good groove after recovering from his last
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40. "Why did they replay it like 4-5 times?"
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>It was all bent to shit after that.

When it went down I thought it was bad. When I saw the replay I KNEW it was bad. And then I was wishing they never showed it again, but they showed it 3 or 4 more times.

  

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42. "Apparently his arm isn't broken, just badly dislocated. Whew."
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The dislocation looked ugly as hell, but all things considered, that's not terrible news.

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43. "id rather break my arm than dislocate my elbow 100 times out of 100"
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44. "Just saw that. How fortunate!"
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A few weeks recovery. Must be painful as hell though.

  

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38. "Dynamite 1/5 : TBS Debut"
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an uneven show anchored by two awesome matches in BD vs Hangman and Jungle Express vs Lucha Bros. Like Danielson, I don't know if I've seen a bad Lucha Bros match before.

Like was said above, the Malakai Black stuff isn't quite hitting. You can hear how confused the crowd is too.

Jade Cargill vs Ruby Soho was so sloppy. This kind of match shouldn't be on primetime television, period. Cargill has Charlotte upside, but she's green as grass. For seeming so athletic, there's a violence and physicality that's sorely lacking from her moveset. I'm not sure the AEW women's division needs a 2nd title. The best female performers are, by a mile, Baker, Deeb, Riho.

Curious to see what they do with Danielson AND Hangman from here. I'd like to see Omega/Cole get mixed up with Hangman somehow I'd throw Punk in there too but it seems like he's not through with MJF yet. Maybe a returning heel Moxley? (yuck) I think we're about to see some delusional madman heel work from Danielson which I'm so obviously in for. He's the best pro wrestler in the world.

If they're gonna have Hangman go through with beating Danielson then I hope we're due for a long and exciting Hangman run. They have the opportunity to make a star here, but he needs the strap for a while and needs big angles and classic matches through that period of time. He's proven more in the last month than he has in the last 2 years so I think he's got it in him.

  

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45. "you are damn right about that last line"
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He got the juice rn

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50. "2.0 isnt bad"
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either that or the last 3 eps have just be a good run.

focusing on some of the newer folks
Carmelo's cool. Kind of reminds me of a less athletic Ricochet but w/ actual personality
they need to set Carmelo's manager/partner loose that guy has megastar potential if he can wrestle.
Bron is already a star
Toxic Attraction is a good focus point for the Women's division
Imperium is way cooler w/ Walter
the new girl Tiffany should end up being something.

i mean yeah some of these people are green as shit so the wrestling might not be as good but its a better show than Raw or SD

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52. "WALTER makes everything better"
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And Bronn Breaker does seem like the can't miss prospect that's justifying this whole experiment. Now that they put the title on him, it doesn't seem like there's much more point in keeping him around. He'll be up at the main roster before the end of the year, and the only reason I can think for it not being right now is that there's really no one else to put the belt on.

I read this somewhere and I think it's true: There's still too much of a style clash between what they want to be now and the last vestiges of what they used to be. Now, they seem to be going for this mid-'90s thing, where everything is bright and wrestlers have side-jobs/gimmicks or are narcolpetic. And the matches are really short and there's all these goofy backstage skits. But going down that path and still having stuff like WarGames and kendo stick matches isn't working. And they're apparently going to do anothhr Dusty Classic Tag Team tournament, which is probably going to be a disaster.

So they should probably pick a lane and stick with it. And then cut it down to an hour and just keep in on Peacock.

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54. "Steiner is good enough to actually make someone on his way out imo"
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53. "great pacing and format to go along with blah content"
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the time to convince me Hangman would be a worthy champion was before he beat Omega, not after. im not buying it, im not buying him, and im losing interest in him as a champion. the match itself was good for what it was, even if their intentions with it are a miss for me. the multi-man gimmicks for title shots need to die, because it sends a very strong message that the weekly TV isnt that important, as long as you watch the "Face of the Revolution 20 Man Human Centipede Match'

so of course now they are going to do the same thing with Jurassic Express, which im also not buying. Luchasaurus is an indie goof, and Ill never be able to forget him on the microphone role-playing an actual talking dinosaur. after the first 5-6 times of doing the "65 million years" bit, he cant just go back to being a badass who dresses like that to psych ppl out. this is not the kind of pro wrestling that appeals to me.

the parade of heel tag teams coming out at the end was EXTREMELY cornball too. this has Young Bucks stench all over it. i would have been real interested had only FTR come out with their seni-reasonable point that the Lucha Bros only had belts to lose in the first place bc of repeated referee errors to kick off a real program.

the overall strategy of using the non-existent prestige of the belts to make stars instead of using the stars they have to give the belts a shred of credibility is NOT hitting for me. its fan booking relying on the idea that everyone knows it's fake, so no need to put effort into making you believe. i dont watch this shit to marvel at choreographed feats of athletic coordination.

but on the plus side i loved the way the show was laid out and the pace it moved along at. good mix of talking segments and matches.

MJF-Punk was great as usual, and I actually felt something for Shawn Dean taking a stray bullet. Love him as a worker and glad he got to be on TV. Id really like to see him win some matches and get into the TNT Title mix bc hes good enough. 2Point0 was also highly entertaining as usual, and I enjoy them so much that I almost dont care that they are getting sucked into Jericho's cheap heat fueled self-love. Im looking forward to more Deeb-Shida as well.

its funny how Punk-MJF and Deeb-Shida are the most well constructed and believable "personal issue" programs and they are going about it in completely opposite ways. Punk-MJF are basically magnets physically repelling each other for now while they spar verbally, while Deeb-Shida are going into their 4th match and clearly headed for a 5th. this kind of stuff IS why i watch this shit.

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58. "So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match"
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They’re saying it was him landing on it wrong, but it seemed like he was limping even before that.

Atlas is saying he won’t be out long. He was a good job out there before the injury.

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59. "RE: So apparently Atlas kinda fucked his knee during the Rampage match"
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>They’re saying it was him landing on it wrong, but it
>seemed like he was limping even before that.
>
>Atlas is saying he won’t be out long. He was a good job out
>there before the injury.

Yeah, he looked pretty agile and smooth. Hopefully he can get back in decent time. I’m more worried about Miro Crush rn. Hopefully he doesn’t get totally derailed.

  

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62. "Battle of the Belts wasn't exactly Clash of the Champions..."
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...but I liked all of the matches well enough, even with the outcomes of each were never in doubt.

Dustin and Sammy had a solid old school match. Starks and Sydal were enjoyable, and it further the Martin vs. Team Taz angle. Baker and Riho was decentlu fun as well. Everything was about B/B- range. It didn't set the world on fire, but a decent way to spend an hour during these COVID times.

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65. "Adam Cole is #1 ranked?"
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oh yeah, i almost forgot this is all fake smh

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66. "well this couldnt have started any worse"
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67. "so of course the rest has been great lol"
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anything not involving the YBs and/or Best has been good to superb

and Serena Deeb. fuck. shes occupying the same air as Danielson right now imo.

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68. "lost a little steam with Matt Hardy"
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and of course The Acclaimed get beat on and sent off with their tails between their legs

god forbid they hold a little heat going into the match. no no no...revenge happens within 8 minutes of the original verbal slight.

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69. "and I dont believe Sammy could beat up Daniel Garcia"
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so i can already tell this is gonna be annoying

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70. "i was right. hes just not for me."
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his matches are just "doing stuff back and forth" until he kicks out from some shit he shoudnt kick out of, then the deus ex machina finish.

im over it.

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71. "If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW"
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But Guevara allows NO time for character, for movement. It’s go go go from the minute the bell rings. He’s charismatic when he’s not wrestling but not while he’s wrestling.

I thought the match was pretty good but to your point there’s definitely a disparity between Guevara’s size and Garcia’s.

As storytelling goes, I actually really enjoyed Wardlow/Punk btw.

  

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72. "Punk is giving a masteclass in how to do a PROGRAM"
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what Danielson is doing with his matches,Punk is doing with "wrestling on TV"

Everything is compelling, everyone he interacts with comes out better than they were before, and he isnt even touching his nemesis. Hes the anti-Jericho and i honestly couldnt imagine the show without him at this point.

All that with Wardlow was fuckin great and now hes made. Whenever they want to push him they can give him 6 weeks of wins on TV and hes a credible title contender.

As far as Sammy, you're right in that the match starts and anything interesting about him goes away. Then its pedal to the metal with choreography and stunt work, rinse, repeat. He's also not a babyface, which isnt helping at all.

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75. "RE: If Guevara could slow down, he could be Kidman/Juvi/Rey of AEW"
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>But Guevara allows NO time for character, for movement.
>It’s go go go from the minute the bell rings. He’s
>charismatic when he’s not wrestling but not while he’s
>wrestling.
>
>I thought the match was pretty good but to your point
>there’s definitely a disparity between Guevara’s size and
>Garcia’s.
>
>As storytelling goes, I actually really enjoyed Wardlow/Punk
>btw.

Someone probably has to force slowing down onto him with a vet who can stay with him. Like Pac or someone like that. It seems like AEW gets what you’re saying and they THINK they’re trying to slow him down. Ie: working with the Rhodes brothers. The problem of course is that the Rhodes brothers sometimes can’t help THEMSELVES either so here we are.

And Jericho? It’s kinda over, right? He was a great get for them at the beginning. And he probably did better in AEW giving and taking a few rubs than he would have going around randomly or on moth balls in WWE but he’s right around done. He doesn’t look great, he’s faking it, it’s becoming clear, and he’s losing any kind of mystique he had the more he comes around looking old, moving slow, and making people wait for him. And he’s not even helping his crew out at this point. Once they bring Joe to replace him on commentary, he can damn near lose a retirement match.

  

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77. "its been done for a minute."
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everything since Football Fiasco 2020 has been him taking rubs. Eddie Kingston is just the next guy with momentum that Jericho needs to vampire off of. youre also right that hes not doing anything at all for his crew.

and in something im still salty about...he ruined the fuckin War Games for me. it meant nothing, he was completely see-thru with his blading and shit, and then going through that cardboard and getting caught peeking at the camera light to know when it was time to play dead.

if hes not doing straight heel commentary hes completely replaceable there too.

he was so great for like 6 months, then he was great on commentary with Schiavone for a couple months...and then the football field match took everything down a very crappy road.

i will say one thing tho, during the OC feud when his crew got doused with orange juice he turned Santana & Ortiz whole trajectory around. Ortiz was flopping around in the orange juice like a cartoon character that couldnt stand up. Jericho looked down and said into the mic "Get up you idiot!". Ever since that very moment Ortiz has been a completely different wrestler without any of his comedy antics. so i guess theres that.

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73. "was Adam Cole always this flabby?"
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now i've only ever seen him in AEW.
and his theme/entrance is probably my favorite thing in all of wrestling rn.
im not ashamed to admit i do the whole bit with the boom on the apron and the two guns up thing he does

but once the bell dings, i feel like they're asking a lot of me because the actual look and in-ring stuff doesnt match his personality/presentation

and as fans of both people i really don't dig how they're about to push AC & Britt as an item. i know they are dating for real but let Britt cook in her own ecosystem vs Thunder Rosa or Jade and soon Jamie.

wardlow/mjf/spears & punk remains interesting as always across both shows

i think i saw Hangman on a Dark episode? i know they tape that the same night as Dynamite, so it makes sense for the live fans to get to see him that night, but the world champ should never be on a Dark episode. just don't air that. idk.

and finally i find that Dan Lambert i think most people dislike him but he is funny as all hell to me.

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74. "RE: was Adam Cole always this flabby?"
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Cole is an indy main event wrestling machine. Kinda like the 70s and 80s long match/ in great shape/everyone likes working with him type dudes. Like a Steamboat with cooler music and a little crew. Until he gets to having banger matches again with stakes, I think he’s gonna seem disappointing. Like youre asking, he has basically never LOOKED like anything special. In that way, he lacks the Steamboat thing (Ricky looked like a damn tank).

Back to Cole, he can grow on you. That’s how he got me. I didn’t gaf about him in ROH or NXT until he got into some big matches. He’s great but he’s niche great. Even with his over ass song and the entrance, he’s not ‘he’ll make anything feel huge so just throw him on tv’ great.

That would be CM motherfucking Punk. He’s got the Midas touch. He’s knighting so many people in AEW right now. The validation he just gave to Wardlow? Man, he might’ve gotten Wardlow silly paydays for the next decade at least with the way he took those power bombs. The way he fucked up to get into them and then only MJF being an ass saved him? Just wow. Classic, smart, wonderful, giving, cool. Punk is a perfect combo of a lot of good shit right now. Punk basically lost to Wardlow the other night. I loved it and it totally worked on me. I want to see if he’s gonna Febreze Spears somehow too. It’s not like Spears doesn’t have decent size and solid work in general. He’s overdue to be made to look like something worth a damn. May as well!

And hey, I didn’t see this Punk AEW run being this complete and great so far. The honeymoon is over maybe but he’s doing God’s work. I wish Edge was banging out goodness anything like this for instance.

>now i've only ever seen him in AEW.
>and his theme/entrance is probably my favorite thing in all of
>wrestling rn.
>im not ashamed to admit i do the whole bit with the boom on
>the apron and the two guns up thing he does
>
>but once the bell dings, i feel like they're asking a lot of
>me because the actual look and in-ring stuff doesnt match his
>personality/presentation
>
>and as fans of both people i really don't dig how they're
>about to push AC & Britt as an item. i know they are dating
>for real but let Britt cook in her own ecosystem vs Thunder
>Rosa or Jade and soon Jamie.
>
>wardlow/mjf/spears & punk remains interesting as always across
>both shows
>
>i think i saw Hangman on a Dark episode? i know they tape that
>the same night as Dynamite, so it makes sense for the live
>fans to get to see him that night, but the world champ should
>never be on a Dark episode. just don't air that. idk.
>
>and finally i find that Dan Lambert i think most people
>dislike him but he is funny as all hell to me.

  

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76. "he looks terrible physically imo."
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small is small. thats whatever.

but dude doesn't look like he works out at all, and hes both skinny and flabby (good word) at the same time.

not only that, but being so small makes his head look fucking enormous.

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78. "NXT name generator at it again: WALTER is now Gunther Shark "
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Feared the worst when it leaked that the WWE had put a trademark on the name. And of course, It had to be true.

Seriously, what the fuck? The guy is one of the top 2 or 3 most talented guys in the roster. Leagues ahead of everyone else is NXT. Has made a name for himself as “WALTER” on both the weekly shows and the occasional Takeover. And now you’re changing his name to THAT? So you can own merchandising rights?

I guess the “good” news is this probably means it’ll be six months max before they completely fuck him up in NXT or the main roster, and then he can sign with AEW or New Japan or something.

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79. "Oh, and is the NXT name generator broken or if not if gives WALTER..."
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...the same name as an actual Nazi commander? Which Gunther Stark was (apologies on the "Shark" above; fucking auto-correct)? And WWE would have known if they'd used Google?

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80. "Incredible"
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Everyone who I’ve said “Well they can’t fuck up this wrestler” WWE finds a way.

  

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81. "I’m headed to Dynamite tonight boys!!!"
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82. "NICE!!!"
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I attended the GCW show on Friday. Got to see Sabu, Big Sexy, Ricky Morton and 2 Cold Scorpio in a ring. What a time to be alive.

Also, Matt Cardona has NUCLEAR heat, he beat Rhino and claimed the ECW TV title. Pretty incredible heel run hes on right now.

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83. "Cardona and Effy have been having an epic feud. "
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It's really great stuff.

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85. "damn. i wanted to go and couldnt find a road dog :("
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also thinking about going to Metro Pro Saturday night to see Alex Shelley (Shamrocks!) wrestle

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86. "He was at Harpos too"
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They’re coming back in April.

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84. "mask up! AEW doing big rona numbers "
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87. "Dope! Have fun."
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It's going to be Dynamite, Rampage, and Dark, right?

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88. "Dark and Dynamite, Rampage is live Friday but I’m out of town"
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Tonight’s show is jam packed on paper. No clue how they fit everything In cleanly.

  

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89. "ok we getting F bombs on TV"
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92. "I was there ringside "
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They always put on a great live show.
Wish I could go to Rampage on Friday but I’m busy that night and couldn’t pull it.

How stupid was that guy to yell that shit at Mox and get kicked out at the start of the show?

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93. "What did the asshole yell at Moxley? Couldn’t make it out on TV"
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95. "i saw somewhere: "get that drunk out of the ring""
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which, while insensitive, doesnt really seem like ejectable behavior to me. *they* made Jon Moxley into a drunk.

i dont know why wrestling companies trade so heavily on these ppl's personal lives.

not only do i not care about Jade Cargill's daughter, I DEFINITELY dont want to see her on TV.

I dont want to know about Moxley going to rehab, and telling us makes you look stupid after he had his flask in every other promo for months.

if its not part of the presentation, keep it to yourself. If Jonathan Good has an alcohol problem, why are you telling us that Jon Moxley, an entirely fabricated entity, is going to rehab? Drinking alcohol on camera was part of this fabricated entity, but now we have to pretend that never happened?

This is a big part of why pundits and retired wrestlers say that the biggest marks nowadays are the wrestlers themselves. Jon Moxley isnt a real person, but they seem to have completely mixed up when and when NOT to portray that he is.

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96. "and by "somewhere" i see i that i mean Tiger Woods' recap smhlol"
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90. "thank god for the Booker of the Year"
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Brian Pillman Jr was 3 episodes of TV away from getting over for real at one point

what a waste

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91. "So I’d say it’s almost guaranteed Gargano shows in AEW next week"
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Main event is the Cole vs. Orange Cassidy in a Lights Out match. In Cleveland. I’d put $100 on Gargano, the hometown hero, coming in and costing Cole the win.

Since it’s Lights Out, Cole can lose without it hurting his perfect record. And Cassidy, after being on the losing end of every match in this feud (except the one eight man tag match) can get a win back.

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94. "Dynamite was, easily, the most fun I've had at a wrestling show"
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the last show I left this inspired was an ROH show at the Manhattan Center main event by Bryan Danielson vs KENTA in 2006

God, what a blast

I don't really like Jon Moxley but it was a cool moment and a great way to start the show. Some jerkoff yelled "get that drunk out of the ring!" and the crowd was like "ooooh" and Moxley had him tossed. I would've liked to have seen this end in some kind of angle but the promo got people going, it's really fun to yell out the lyrics to "Wild Thing", and he looks physically better than he did pre-rehab.

Adam Cole's entrance is over. Is Adam Cole over? I don't know. There was chatter in this post earlier about him not looking great...and he's even less physically imposing in person. I worry about him. He was protected and portrayed well in NXT. But he's going to run into a program with Omega probably in the next 4 months and I just don't know how he's going to look on TV.

Orange Cassidy is a bullshit gimmick for marks who watch hentai. I hate this character.

I hope Tony Khan has a Hangman strategy that's more measured than "be a good guy and do good guy stuff." Hangman Page seemed to me to be, by far, the most popular guy in AEW after Sting and CM Punk. The ovation for his run in surprised me. His entire presentation when he hits the ring makes perfect sense. But why is your champion only eating up 90 seconds of airtime on your flagship show? He needs to be wrestling or talking every single week. Adding insult to injury is that there was no Hangman merchandise for sale - for your world champion! People were vocally frustrated about it. Hangman needs to get through Lance Archer with a swiftness. This reminds me of when Daniel Bryan, white hot after the Wrestlemania main event win, got thrust in an overlong program with Kane. The only guy who didn't get a reaction good OR bad all night was Lance Archer.

Cody on the other hand gets all the reactions. When you have to sit through one of his promos in person it's really eye-opening just how up his own ass he really is. On one token, he's belligerently tonedeaf to just how overwhelming he's being, he takes 7 minutes to communicate a 3 minute message. On the other hand, his pandering is gross - he uses jargon like "heel" in his promo, he references the Walter name change, he warns Brody King of calling himself "Brody" in AEW. It's fucking insufferable...but it's also really important. I don't think Cody Rhodes of all people is sophisticated enough to do this like Meta-heel John Cena by birthright thing he's doing, I think he actually believes that what he's doing is great. It's NOT great, BUT people care A LOT. People boo with their full throats and launch profanity his way incessantly. Other people also chant for him and do the "bowing" motion to him too. So while I think he's kind of a mess, I can't help but admit he's the ONLY character on AEW who's getting legitimate heat. Cody Rhodes is the only real heel in AEW. Maybe it doesn't matter if it's being done on purpose?

the CM Punk squash of Spears got a HUGE pop. God that was exciting. It's fun to do things like that I think...it felt like a flash knockout kind of UFC win. No one saw it coming but when it happened everyone immediately accepted it.

And then there's Sting. Man, the word "legend" gets thrown around a lot in wrestling but he's got a real claim to the title. For all of the great characters and wrestling we saw last night the vibe just completely changed when Sting came out. The mood was palpable - I heard a guy a row behind me just say outloud "man that's actually fuckin Sting". I was STUNNED how much he was bumping, but boy did it make the comeback even more powerful. When Sting did the stagedive it was like a party broke out in the crowd.

I know a lot was made about Big Swole's lack-of-diversity comments a few weeks ago. I didn't think Tony Khan's response was so tactful. But I'd like to point out that there's hope; Ricky Starks and the Acclaimed are legitimate stars in the making. Starks can go as far as Khan lets him. The Acclaimed have "it". Of everyone I saw last night who I hadn't already seen in person or on WWE TV, the guys who had the most obvious charisma BY A MILE were the Acclaimed and Ricky Starks (Starks shot something for DARK).

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97. "ive been saying it for like a year"
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The Acclaimed are potential stars and they have a chronic case of Booker of the Year Syndrome

they shouldnt be doing any jobs for anyone

if that means we only see them once every 2-3 weeks against glorofied job guys then so be it. but theyre basically tackling dummies. telling everyone they are #1 ranked is something we are just supposed to accept as true, but they seem to be using belts and rankings to tey to convince us people are important rather than booking people at ACTUALLY be important.

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99. "Nice!"
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It sounds like what I remember from the NXT shows I have been to. Lots of people are over..even people that don't seem like they are on TV. And the crowd is amped so everything 'feels better' because of the crowd energy.

>the last show I left this inspired was an ROH show at the
>Manhattan Center main event by Bryan Danielson vs KENTA in
>2006
>
>God, what a blast
>
>I don't really like Jon Moxley but it was a cool moment and a
>great way to start the show. Some jerkoff yelled "get that
>drunk out of the ring!" and the crowd was like "ooooh" and
>Moxley had him tossed. I would've liked to have seen this end
>in some kind of angle but the promo got people going, it's
>really fun to yell out the lyrics to "Wild Thing", and he
>looks physically better than he did pre-rehab.
>
>Adam Cole's entrance is over. Is Adam Cole over? I don't know.
>There was chatter in this post earlier about him not looking
>great...and he's even less physically imposing in person. I
>worry about him. He was protected and portrayed well in NXT.
>But he's going to run into a program with Omega probably in
>the next 4 months and I just don't know how he's going to look
>on TV.
>
>Orange Cassidy is a bullshit gimmick for marks who watch
>hentai. I hate this character.
>
>I hope Tony Khan has a Hangman strategy that's more measured
>than "be a good guy and do good guy stuff." Hangman Page
>seemed to me to be, by far, the most popular guy in AEW after
>Sting and CM Punk. The ovation for his run in surprised me.
>His entire presentation when he hits the ring makes perfect
>sense. But why is your champion only eating up 90 seconds of
>airtime on your flagship show? He needs to be wrestling or
>talking every single week. Adding insult to injury is that
>there was no Hangman merchandise for sale - for your world
>champion! People were vocally frustrated about it. Hangman
>needs to get through Lance Archer with a swiftness. This
>reminds me of when Daniel Bryan, white hot after the
>Wrestlemania main event win, got thrust in an overlong program
>with Kane. The only guy who didn't get a reaction good OR bad
>all night was Lance Archer.
>
>Cody on the other hand gets all the reactions. When you have
>to sit through one of his promos in person it's really
>eye-opening just how up his own ass he really is. On one
>token, he's belligerently tonedeaf to just how overwhelming
>he's being, he takes 7 minutes to communicate a 3 minute
>message. On the other hand, his pandering is gross - he uses
>jargon like "heel" in his promo, he references the Walter name
>change, he warns Brody King of calling himself "Brody" in AEW.
>It's fucking insufferable...but it's also really important. I
>don't think Cody Rhodes of all people is sophisticated enough
>to do this like Meta-heel John Cena by birthright thing he's
>doing, I think he actually believes that what he's doing is
>great. It's NOT great, BUT people care A LOT. People boo with
>their full throats and launch profanity his way incessantly.
>Other people also chant for him and do the "bowing" motion to
>him too. So while I think he's kind of a mess, I can't help
>but admit he's the ONLY character on AEW who's getting
>legitimate heat. Cody Rhodes is the only real heel in AEW.
>Maybe it doesn't matter if it's being done on purpose?
>
>the CM Punk squash of Spears got a HUGE pop. God that was
>exciting. It's fun to do things like that I think...it felt
>like a flash knockout kind of UFC win. No one saw it coming
>but when it happened everyone immediately accepted it.
>
>And then there's Sting. Man, the word "legend" gets thrown
>around a lot in wrestling but he's got a real claim to the
>title. For all of the great characters and wrestling we saw
>last night the vibe just completely changed when Sting came
>out. The mood was palpable - I heard a guy a row behind me
>just say outloud "man that's actually fuckin Sting". I was
>STUNNED how much he was bumping, but boy did it make the
>comeback even more powerful. When Sting did the stagedive it
>was like a party broke out in the crowd.
>
>I know a lot was made about Big Swole's lack-of-diversity
>comments a few weeks ago. I didn't think Tony Khan's response
>was so tactful. But I'd like to point out that there's hope;
>Ricky Starks and the Acclaimed are legitimate stars in the
>making. Starks can go as far as Khan lets him. The Acclaimed
>have "it". Of everyone I saw last night who I hadn't already
>seen in person or on WWE TV, the guys who had the most obvious
>charisma BY A MILE were the Acclaimed and Ricky Starks (Starks
>shot something for DARK).
>
>If Dynamite is in your town, go. Just go.

  

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98. "they having a spelling bee on Raw right now lol"
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boy i have seen it all.

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100. "the MJF/Punk segment this week was something else"
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MJF went in the crates with some of his content this week.
Finally we get some action in Chicago next week

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101. "Sitting Indian style on top of Punk was -fabulous-"
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Punk/MJF segment was as good as Cole/Cassidy was bad

  

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102. "so disrespectful. with an uncomfortable amount of truth too."
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saved the show bc the rest was almost entirely hot garbage, including the silliest, fakest, and most contrived exhibition of ladder spots ive ever seen. not to mention that the "title dispute" in the first place was stupid as fuck. really a terrible episode.

and of course 2point0 fed to Jericho again and Anthony Bowens set up to be fed to Moxley on friday

all the indie goofs they have on the roster and guys like that have to be sacrificed? i hate it so much.

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103. "they OD'd with the ladder spots"
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that first one w/ where he springboarded off the ladder and did the cutter shouldve been the finish. that was tight.

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105. "any one of them could have been THE high spot"
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but they either dont realize that if the vast majority of normal people want impressive feats of athleticism they watch real sports

or

they dont care, because the show isnt meant to appeal to the vast majority of normal people anyways

i always thought Cody had an understanding of that even if no one else did.

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104. "the performers have too much leeway. It's the anti-WWE."
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There's some balance of letting these guys be creative without letting them do everything they want to do. Like, there's NO way that Cassidy/Cole match should have gone down like that. That was so bad.

Triple H, Regal, and Matt Bloom already mastered what AEW thinks it's doing with NXT. If I were Tony Khan I'd pay Regal 600k to come in and run the shows. I thought Danielson would be that type of presence and maybe he still will be.

  

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106. "i guarantee Khan thinks he makes a better show than Regal could"
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which is completely silly. even Bill Watts had a fucking booker.

and as far as the main event, i remember nothing but Danhausen, who played it perfectly like a weirdo who got caught skulking around so he just left acting annoyed.

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107. "They've both pulled every lever in that feud perfectly"
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Setting up for the pay-off in Chicago.

Only thing will be if the MJF/Wardlow split-up happens that night, or a little farther down the road. I actually think it would benefit if they teased it out a little more.

I thought the ladder match worked well. Yeah, there were a lot of highspots, but the flow was better than a good deal of the TLC spot-fests of the past. Plus, the only spot I didn't like was them both hanging on to the belt bar above the ring and both falling. The was dangerous and looked dumb. Sammy doing the senton off one ladder onto Cody draped across another was probably unnecessary, but looked awesome.

I'm aware that most people in this thread don't like Orange Cassidy, but the match was fine to me and a good pay-off for an angle that had some bad set-up. Only thing I didn't like about the match itself was that Orange waited too long to jump off the top of the stage with Cole. But otherwise, it's an end to the feud that wpn't effect Cole moving forward.

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108. "RE: They've both pulled every lever in that feud perfectly"
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>Setting up for the pay-off in Chicago.
>
>Only thing will be if the MJF/Wardlow split-up happens that
>night, or a little farther down the road. I actually think it
>would benefit if they teased it out a little more.
>
>I thought the ladder match worked well. Yeah, there were a lot
>of highspots, but the flow was better than a good deal of the
>TLC spot-fests of the past. Plus, the only spot I didn't like
>was them both hanging on to the belt bar above the ring and
>both falling. The was dangerous and looked dumb. Sammy doing
>the senton off one ladder onto Cody draped across another was
>probably unnecessary, but looked awesome.
>
>I'm aware that most people in this thread don't like Orange
>Cassidy, but the match was fine to me and a good pay-off for
>an angle that had some bad set-up. Only thing I didn't like
>about the match itself was that Orange waited too long to jump
>off the top of the stage with Cole. But otherwise, it's an end
>to the feud that wpn't effect Cole moving forward.

I’ll confess right here: I love Orange Cassidy. He gets me every time. He looks to be working out too. To me, he’s a weird indy gimmick dude who is smoothing out some of his rough edges. Aka he’s losing some of his time-wasting bullshit and doing more straight-ahead wrestling. And he somewhat obviously can work well enough. He just needs someone to keep him on-pace..a bunch of guys in all companies now need that! And I remember seeing this type of stuff a lot back in the day…people updating and adapting their shit as they change companies and/or get into different spots on cards. I’m okay with all of this. He also reminds me of a lot of 80s workers who had some repeat spots that they’d try to rig into every match no matter what the situation was. And then, people would react to them in different ways and fun was had by all who saw what was going on.

It is NOT the same talent but it reminds me of what happened with RVD going from ECW athletic feat machine to trying to be a more ‘complete’ wrestler later on. I liked his early WWE days because they made a point to beat him up every time he stalled a lot.

I was fine with the ladder match too. The cutter was beautiful, Cody lost, and now we can ideally get some more of Sammy getting his stuff together.

  

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109. "So I guess there’s going to be a Danhausen/Austin Gunn program"
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110. "Is this the least excited I've been for a Rumble..."
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...since I started watching?

Probably. But I'm watching anyway. Anyone else?

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111. "yes, and yes"
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112. "whew nikki looks amazing"
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ive never watched one of these stoned before but it just hit me how hard this must be to edit w/ so much going on

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113. "Maryse about to pop through the tv. "
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good god

hope they got Lashley a nice ice bath cause you can tell he has zero experience being a rag doll. lot of tough landings

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114. "no NXT people in either rumble"
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interesting choice.

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137. "RE: no NXT people in either rumble"
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>interesting choice.

It seems like they know they're starting over with NXT so it kinda makes sense to keep those kids in 'their own world' until they feel better about whoever they're going to bring up. Bringing people up then shitting on them because they're not immediately ready to go at Roman Reigns was a bad look for everyone involved. They were damn near starting to treat their NXT call-ups like WCW 2001 people..like bringing them in just to spite them and make sure everyone knew the WWE people were better. Ridiculous I know but wasn't that kinda what they were doing?

Their alleged 'confusion' is kinda silly..that's for sure. And the whole 'kill everyone who had anything to do with NXT B&G' seems a little like self-serving CYA. And Haitch seems to be catching it ugly to the point where it seems like something else is going on that we don't know about (imagine that).

But the pivot still seems logical to me zoomed out. To me, NXT was the best Murrican Indy. Then AEW showed up, put more money in than NXT wanted to put into their deal. They turned into Super NXT: Champion Edition. IE: Punk, Omega, Sting, and others weren't going to go to NXT for instance.

With that, what if NXT had stayed how it was? At worst, it would've become a better farm system for AEW than it would've been for WWE's main roster. IE: I love Gargano and his NXT run is going to age ridiculously well IMO but they were never going to put him against a Brock with a straight face..not even on a random show. So they were kinda stuck if they wanted NXT to be a farm system.

  

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115. "Wrong post"
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116. "Both Rumble showed the sad state of affairs in the WWE"
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The Women’s Rumble was filled with part timers and wrestlers whose hey day there was 10 to 15 ago (20 for some) and won by Rousey, who hasn’t appeared in two years and left on fairly bad terms.

Meanwhile, for the men, half the Rumble entrants were tag team guys, and they still had to throw in Knoxville and Bad Bunny. The only believable WM main eventer they came up with was a guy who had already wrestled that night an hour earlier.

This fed has no star power at all They probably need to call up Breakker and WALTER stat.

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117. "Which is bonkers because they have a handful of guys that SHOULD "
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be absolute money, but they've booked themselves into a corner. Cesaro, E, Owens, Nakamura and AJ should all be capable of a main event spot. And Cesaro wasn't even in the damn rumble.

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118. "I feel like you have to try really hard..."
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...to make a rumble match boring. And they succeeded with flying colors for the men's rumble.

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119. "Like even the Kofi spot was blunt and obvious"
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and of COURSE that was never going to work.

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124. "Morrison has done that spot before. "
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Twas a botch.

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122. "Yup, although I’d say AJ is still at that level"
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But they didn’t book him like it in this Rumble. He’s technically the Ironman of this match, but still got kicked out too early.

I really thought that this was gonna be Montez Ford’s coming out party too. I’m dumb.

  

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120. "end result of “none of this matters anyway” style booking"
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121. "It's a bunch of stupid wasted opportunties"
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Like you mentioned above, they were no NXT people. Why? They're apparently about to call up LA Knight and possibly Ciampa. How about putting either of them in to make a big elimination to get some buzz on them.

Or why not put in Bronn Breaker and WALTER and give either (or both) a "clear the ring" sequence to get people to, you know, watch NXT? Or hype them for their own eventual call ups?

Or, hey, they just cut Keith Lee, Karrion Kross, Samoa Joe, Bray Wyatt, and Braun Stroman. All five of those guys would have been more believable contenders than like half of the jabronis who were in the Rumble.

Hell, in the Women's Rumble, they actually brought back Mickie James, who'd they just cut. Probably could have used any of the dozen or so women who'd just gotten the ax. Or a bunch of the women's NXT talent. Instead, they went with Molly Holly and Lita. Again.

Just so damn dumb.

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126. "the final 5 men was an embarrassment "
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Gimme half a decent reason shane had to eliminate KO.

ANd in terms of Spotify I would have rather seen Neil Young than Bad Bunny.

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127. "McReasons, that's why"
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>Gimme half a decent reason shane had to eliminate KO.

  

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130. "Shane should have been in the teens and gotten one-hand pressed"
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out by the boy Rick Boogs.

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123. "Why would I ever watch the weekly shows"
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If this is how it all turns out? In the last 2 years, 3 out of the 4 Rumbles were won by part-timers who could’ve just as easily come out on Monday/Friday and simply declared they wanted a title shot.

You have 2 months to play with to get Brock and Ronda in the main event, why not use the Rumble to make someone on the active roster? Even if you’ve decided Brock needs to win this, there’s still a million better ways you could’ve gone about it.

  

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128. "Because."
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>You have 2 months to play with to get Brock and Ronda in the
>main event, why not use the Rumble to make someone on the
>active roster? Even if you’ve decided Brock needs to win
>this, there’s still a million better ways you could’ve
>gone about it.

  

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125. "Fairly certain Rousey leaving all loud was kayfabe"
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The Men's rumble very well could be the worst ever.

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134. "it was."
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before this thread refreshed my memory i couldn't have told you anything about it 48 hours later

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129. "Pure dog shit. "
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131. "Dirt that Riddle was thrown around as possible rumble winner"
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IE Randy in Main Event.

Even when they try to do something its a fart.

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135. "yeah but a fart with cartoon birds!"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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140. "i would've enjoyed a Riddle RR win. he should be bro Stone Cold"
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like he can still be goofy and silly and shit w/ his bro personality...

and actually beat peoples asses. i know more than enough people on that wave to know it's relatable and will be a hit. he looks the part and he has good moves too

add in the bright colors and the merch sells itself.

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155. "RE: i would've enjoyed a Riddle RR win. he should be bro Stone Cold"
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>like he can still be goofy and silly and shit w/ his bro
>personality...
>
>and actually beat peoples asses. i know more than enough
>people on that wave to know it's relatable and will be a hit.
>he looks the part and he has good moves too
>
>add in the bright colors and the merch sells itself.

They did it with Kurt Angle so yeah. They could do that more than stone cold and it would still be a party.

I think this came up before but here goes: I saw Riddle at one of those indy shows during the Mania 32 weekend in Dallas. Riddle was in a group called Catch Point with Gulak and others. Bro was wildly over as the ‘one day, he’s going to turn on these dudes and whoop all of their asses’ guy in the group. And he basically only said the word ‘bro’ in different tones while making faces.

And just like you laid out, when the wrestling started, he was kicking ass and it was ON. The crowd ate it all the way the fuck up. And this was before he was main eventing those indy shows and having bangers against Keef Lee and them.

  

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132. "I think it's been 22 years since I missed a Royal Rumble"
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seeing the results and reading ya'lls commentary I don't regret missing this at all

I can't even fathom how you've got a roster this deep and talented and the two big stories coming out of your 2nd biggest show of the year is Brock Lesnar in 2021 and Ronda Rousey.

  

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133. "RE: I think it's been 22 years since I missed a Royal Rumble"
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>seeing the results and reading ya'lls commentary I don't
>regret missing this at all
>
>I can't even fathom how you've got a roster this deep and
>talented and the two big stories coming out of your 2nd
>biggest show of the year is Brock Lesnar in 2021 and Ronda
>Rousey.

Watch it anyway. The women's rumble is a 'big return' rumble. People just don't like the returning person so the reaction is what it is.

The men's rumble is a 'big star comes in late and kills everyone at the end' rumble.

The men's one was a little dry..that's for sure. And some of the guest appearance women didn't really have it..that's true too. But this was NOT the 'Big Show and Kane kill everyone for 20 minutes' Rumble. Now THAT was a horrible Rumble. It was like 4 or 5 years ago IIRC.

  

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136. "Only thing I enjoyed was Edge/Beth - Miz/Maryse"
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That match was way more fun than it had any business being.

McCool’s return was great too. She caught shit for being Taker’s wife and the era she wrestled in, but she could go in any era.

WWE is so bad. There’s no reason AJ, Owens, Joe, and the like aren’t the upper mid card/main event that could win at any time.

  

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138. "I don't get the hate people have for Miz"
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Like I get that he didn't come through the indies- he went reality tv to tough enough to the main. But he's busted his ass the whole way, he isn't afraid to eat shit when the story calls for it, and he's a decent hand. He's not going to drop a pipe bomb tomorrow, but he can bust out a Talking Smack segment, which was a great promo in its own right.

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139. "i dont think people really hate the Miz anymore like before"
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at least I don't.

i hated him before all the WWE shit though so i at least feel justified in my hate. dude was insufferable on The Challenge

but i also think he is a lot better now at what he's doing so it's like a "you're so great at being a hateable heel that even if its enjoyable we will still boo you out of respect"

also i think the Miz and Maryse show has probably helped him be more likeable to general audiences.

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141. "I don't know about "hate", but he's pretty mediocre overall."
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His mic skills go a long way toward covering up his considerable mediocrity. He's Jeff Jarret with mic skills.

>Like I get that he didn't come through the indies- he went
>reality tv to tough enough to the main.

Is this an actual criticism people use?

>But he's busted his
>ass the whole way, he isn't afraid to eat shit when the story
>calls for it, and he's a decent hand. He's not going to drop a
>pipe bomb tomorrow, but he can bust out a Talking Smack
>segment, which was a great promo in its own right.

He's an excellent promo, and can go toe to toe with anyone.

The only issue with him,is just that he's mediocre at damn near everything except promos.

His gimmick and presentation screams mid. His ring work is mid, apart from that one kick to the face spot in the corner. Even his theme song is, well, mediocre. It's familiar, but badly dated, which is worse because it's such a generic song.

Shit, even his look is mid. The squinty frog eyes and mid-90's white teenager haircut aren't really moving the needle.

Hell, he even has Jarrett's mediocre finisher.

The biggest problem though? He's just stale. He needs a refresh. Those mic chops carry a lot for him, and I think he could benefit from getting away from his hollywood style gimmick

As you said, he's a good hand, and his mic skills and longevity make him a great utility player that can be plugged in anywhere on the card.

One thing that I think could push him up to another gear, is to give him a faction. Give him Dolph and Roode, coupled with a solid enforcer like Cesaro, and they could elevate him a bit.

  

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151. "He had the potential for one of the best angles going with Truth"
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and they turfed that out to give Dwayne a big run into his match with Cena.

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142. "Grand re-opening, grand re-closing: Shane O Mac "quietly let go""
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Apparently he had a lot of heat on him backstage at the Rumble. Tried to take over the booking and rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. So he's not going to be in the Elimination Chamber or WM after all.

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143. "Wow"
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>Apparently he had a lot of heat on him backstage at the
>Rumble. Tried to take over the booking and rubbed a lot of
>people the wrong way. So he's not going to be in the
>Elimination Chamber or WM after all.

Not sad to see him go, but I wonder if they’re just using him as a semi-believable fall guy for how bad that Rumble was. He was certainly a terrible part of it, but that booking couldn’t have been all his fault!

  

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144. "Oh, I'm sure he's only responsible for some of it"
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>>Apparently he had a lot of heat on him backstage at the
>>Rumble. Tried to take over the booking and rubbed a lot of
>>people the wrong way. So he's not going to be in the
>>Elimination Chamber or WM after all.
>
>Not sad to see him go, but I wonder if they’re just using
>him as a semi-believable fall guy for how bad that Rumble was.
>He was certainly a terrible part of it, but that booking
>couldn’t have been all his fault!

But from the reports, it sounds like he was overly invested in getting himself over, and the interaction Jamie Noble is problematic.

Some of that doesn't jive with the stories of Shane being such a nice guy back stage, but maybe that's without him being given a job as a booker who is also booking himself.

I will say that Shane was absolutely great for the attitude/ruthless aggression eras. His character fit perfectly in that mix, and his matches were must-see spectacles.

But his more recent Steve McBlackman iteration is trash IMO. He's the bosses kid and he gets to play with the boys and that's all good and well for him, but him beating the breaks off established, grizzled workers just because he does some jujitsu training on the side never sat well with me. I've never been able to take it seriously.

I'm sure he's getting scapegoated for a fair amount of this, but good riddance IMO. He's another shining example of the diminishing returns that come with Vince's continued over-reliance on the stars of yesteryear.

  

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145. "Yeah, I feel the same way."
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>
>I'm sure he's getting scapegoated for a fair amount of this,
>but good riddance IMO. He's another shining example of the
>diminishing returns that come with Vince's continued
>over-reliance on the stars of yesteryear.

This is one release everyone will be fine with, I just wonder if this is partially cover for other people (Vince) and they’ve already agreed to “quietly” bring him back in a year.

  

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146. "Is he even REALLY released? "
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This sounds silly to me.

I keep going back to KO though. To resign and then have to do that, I cant imagine how he feels.

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147. "Anyone who resigns gets what they deserve IMO"
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They all know the deal at this point.

Everyone but Brock, Roman, Charllotte, Becky, and Seth, to a lesser degree- is a meandering, mid-card player who will most likely have to stooge on some level, because McReasons.

They all know how this works, so anyone who resigns gets exactly what they signed up for IMO.

  

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149. "I mean, he probably signed a contract as a performer "
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Like Vince, Stephanie, and Triple H. Which allows them to "double-dip" on salary. So, in that sense, yeah.

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150. "KO like doing that shit for the money and the comfort tho"
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152. "RE: Is he even REALLY released? "
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>This sounds silly to me.
>
>I keep going back to KO though. To resign and then have to do
>that, I cant imagine how he feels.

I’m guessing he’s cool with it. I dig his work. Buuuuut, he has never been in great shape, WWE rolled with him when he got hurt, and he’s allegedly well-liked backstage. And they probably gave him a good ass ‘don’t go to aew/we will make you a trainer in 3 years’ deal this last time.

AND

Some of these dudes probably feel like they’ve already done the ‘for the love’ wrestling matches they wanted to do. Him and Sami have killed themselves in front of 1000 folks a bunch of times already. They’ve already helped make NXT BG awesome and then sparked whatever led to AEW. They might feel like AEW doesn’t really need them. And now that Danielson and Punk are there, maybe they’re right..especially if they aren’t dying to work long and physically demanding epic matches anymore. So they’re out there on that Jim Duggan/JYD/Ted DiBiase after midsouth shit.

  

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148. "That's my guess. "
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>I just wonder
>if this is partially cover for other people (Vince) and
>they’ve already agreed to “quietly” bring him back in a
>year.

Same. I can't see this being permanent. They'll bring him back as some big surprise down the road.

  

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153. "Bryan and Moxley stable would be fun"
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154. "I’m into it"
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If they get 3-4 younger wrestlers to follow everything they say and do the hard work for them, that would probably extend Bryan’s career another couple years.

  

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156. "RE: I’m into it"
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>If they get 3-4 younger wrestlers to follow everything they
>say and do the hard work for them, that would probably extend
>Bryan’s career another couple years.

Yes. The promo was gorgeous and I think they almost have to do some version of it now. Maybe they have a couple of people turn down the invite. Maybe the swerve is that Punk joins instead of Moxley. Either way, good times could be upon us depending on how they do it. And now that they have a few years of existence under their belt, a group like this can be self-aware on camera about what they’re trying to do, they can clown Inner Circle as it implodes, and they can force the AEW OGs/darlings to have to actually ‘fight for something’. I have to stop thinking about this. I want it to happen too badly.

  

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157. "Well, that was a downer end to Dynamite"
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I would have bet anything that Punk was going to win, given the beatdown he got last week and that he was having the match in his hometown. I figured they were setting up Page and Punk for the Revolution Main Event and transitioning to MJF vs. Wardlow, but apparently not.

The match was great regardless, and Punk sold like an absolute champ the whole match. It looked like after the finish, MJF whispered something to Punk for damn near minute. I imagine he was thanking him, and I would certainly hope so. Punk essentially put over MJF TWICE in the same match, in his own hometown, to make give him nuclear heat.

I honestly don't know where this goes next. They could put MJF against Page at Revolution, but I'm guessing that they go for a Punk rematch, where Punk gets his win back. Then maybe Page fights Moxley after he gets a decisive win against Archer next week.

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158. "That's an upper to me, honestly"
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Punk is out here making the next great player.

That's a great thing.

  

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159. "Oh, I appreciate Punk's willingness to make MJF a bigger star"
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But even if/when we "know" what's going on, on an emotional level, it's still kind of a downer to watch Punk lose in his hometown to a guy who's effectively playing the biggest prick in wrestling. Even knowing that it's a work, I needed to watch something to cheer me up afterwards. Which, of course, means their both doing their jobs.

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160. "hol up he won twice!?!"
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i fell into a weed coma after the Mox/Bryan thing and woke back up w/ like 10 mins left in the show.

i gotta run it back. my boy really shining.

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161. "i remember now. it was the Brandi segment that did me in"
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ol girl fine as frog hair but please keep her off TV.

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162. "The Brandi segment was a mess."
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I have no idea where they're going with it. Brandi is clearly trying to play heel. Cody, who's clearly going to end up in the resulting tag match at the PPV, is still insisting he's a face. Dan Lambert is a heel and being all meta talking about it. Just... get everything Lambert related off of my TV.

Brandi did get a burn on Ethan Page, but that's about it.

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163. "A classic. This angle is going to manage to make BOTH MJF and Wardlow"
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I just for the life of me can’t figure out why some parts of the show are so great - basically anything MJF/Punk for example - and some are just so bad still (anything with Dan Lambert or the Best Friends)

  

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164. "RE: A classic. This angle is going to manage to make BOTH MJF and Wardlo..."
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>I just for the life of me can’t figure out why some parts
>of the show are so great - basically anything MJF/Punk for
>example - and some are just so bad still (anything with Dan
>Lambert or the Best Friends)

Ring of honor.

New Japan.

ECW.

So many feds in the past tried to pick a style and then have most of the show be a lot of that. But oops, if you do that, you’ll be labeled boring or niche. So what do you do? The wwe nothing really matters but the main people but please buy this merch and trust us to tell you what you should like? Or these aew ‘mix it up but let almost everyone do something resembling what they want to do even if some of it is bad’ type shows?

Lots of us just happen to love the fuck out of what Punk is trying to do. Bryan too. But there’s folks out there who are so broken down by the last 20 years of wwe being the only ‘big American’ show in town that they can’t appreciate how key these dudes are to aew and wrestling in general. There’s people saying it isn’t good cuz the ratings aren’t shooting up already. Meanwhile, I’m thinking ‘I’m pretty sure Steamboat and Flair didn’t make people rich in 89 but it was still excellent’.

Why is this punk stuff good? Cuz he’s probably booking it himself and is getting the freedom, help, and time to get it to our eyes as planned. Why is some of the other stuff shaky? Same answer.

  

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165. "Right on time, something we all love..."
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A random Goldberg title match is coming. If I remember correctly, he last beat Lashley with a spear off of a stage. Luckily they did that stunt, no one was crippled, and Lashley didn't exactly look like a chump there.

So now, he's allegedly going to show up out of nowhere, tell Reigns that he's next, and that'll be what Roman deals with as a snack before getting back to Brock for Mania.

If someone would've come to me the summer after Mania 20 in 2004 while Eddie G and Benoit were the WWE champs and said:

- Both Eddie and Benoit will be dead within a few years.
- Kurt Angle is gonna leave WWE soon after that.
- Rey Jr is gonna get a title run.
- Scott Hall is going to outlive Randy Savage.
- HBK will retire in 5-6 years.
- HHH is going to make the best indy wrestling company while still under the WWE umbrella.
- But after a while, it won't make enough money for WWE's liking. Vince, Brother Love, and Johnny Ace will reboot it and throw HHH out of the mix. Yes, he's still married to Stephanie.
- Shane will be in and out but never really deeply in the mix for long.
- Brock and Goldberg are going to be doing main WWE events in 2022.
- In 2019 or so, a new wrestling company will start with Jericho as one of their main name brand people. And Cody Rhodes is going to have a lot to do with it too. Yes, Cody..not Dusty or Dustin.
- This little dude who trained at HBK's school is gonna be one of best rasslers in Amurrica.
- One of the others will be that indy dude, CM Punk. I know but trust us...its gonna happen. He's going to quit for a long time.
- Both of those dudes won't be in WWE.
- Oh, and Batista, Rock and Cena are all going to be big movie stars.

How much of that would've been believable Summer 2004?

>Reigns has the rona but hopefully he’s fine.
>
>Brock is enjoying himself and is now the Raw champ. Lashley vs
>Lesnar is gonna happen and it’s gonna be GREAT as long as
>Brock plays ball.
>
>Toni Storm flew home and quit WWE and the internet doesn’t
>know why yet. We shall see/I hope she’s okay. She’s 26.
>
>Charlotte and Becky are holding belts still. So is Britt
>Baker.
>
>I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept
>that he can’t help himself with certain things and people. I
>know to take his anger over that stuff/those people with a
>grain of salt so I can enjoy the rest of his stuff.
>
>We still have Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and
>others back from retirement mostly doing good stuff.
>
>Random indy stuff is going down. ROH is gone-ish.
>
>Wrestle Kingdom is coming too. Shibata and Will are back!?
>Nice.
>
>NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out
>their kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids
>come out of it better off eventually. The tv exposure is a
>double-edged sword methinks in the complain festival
>environment.
>
>Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re
>too self-aware to not have a plan of some kind with this. We
>shall see. And what are they going to do with all of these
>doggone still free agents!?
>
>Last thing for now before we head towards BD vs Hangman this
>week, good tag team rasslin is happening on both AEW and WWE.
>

  

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166. "I saw Punk in Baltimore in 04, Danielson in New York in 06"
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I was just thinking along similar lines as you. This week’s Dynamite confirmed, at least to me, that the two best and most important wrestlers in the world are CM Punk and Bryan Danielson.Ironically this week, the work rate guy cut a killer promo and didn’t wrestle and the iconoclast promo guy wrestled a classic. But the point stands - in the year 2022, Punk/Bryan are the new Bret and Shawn.

I saw Punk wrestle Raven in Baltimore in 04. It was unspectacular. Punk beat Raven with a drop toe hold on a chair, but it was in a banquet hall where weddings are held so the chair had a thick pad on it and everyone groaned when it happened. Some redneck shrimp named AJ Styles was also on the card, as was a stiff-working chubby dude named Samoa Joe

I saw Danielson wrestle KENTA in NYC in 06. It was a revelation. I’d been to many WWE/WCW shows in my lifetime up to that point but has never been so close or seen a match so legitimately violent. Danielson, in plain burgundy trunks and with a shaved head, wrestled with a desperate anger. Walking back to the subway after the show my brother and I lamented at how unfair the state of wrestling was THEN; we both came away feeling Danielson was the best wrestler on earth but due to his plain presentation and size he’d never make the WWE.

In my opinion, the best five wrestlers on earth (in no order), are Punk, Danielson, Reigns, Sasha Banks, and AJ Styles.. When I was deep in the indies in the early 2000s I would’ve never imagined that some of these guys would go on to become true legends.

  

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167. "RE: I saw Punk in Baltimore in 04, Danielson in New York in 06"
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>I was just thinking along similar lines as you. This week’s
>Dynamite confirmed, at least to me, that the two best and most
>important wrestlers in the world are CM Punk and Bryan
>Danielson.Ironically this week, the work rate guy cut a killer
>promo and didn’t wrestle and the iconoclast promo guy
>wrestled a classic. But the point stands - in the year 2022,
>Punk/Bryan are the new Bret and Shawn.
>
>I saw Punk wrestle Raven in Baltimore in 04. It was
>unspectacular. Punk beat Raven with a drop toe hold on a
>chair, but it was in a banquet hall where weddings are held so
>the chair had a thick pad on it and everyone groaned when it
>happened. Some redneck shrimp named AJ Styles was also on the
>card, as was a stiff-working chubby dude named Samoa Joe
>
>I saw Danielson wrestle KENTA in NYC in 06. It was a
>revelation. I’d been to many WWE/WCW shows in my lifetime up
>to that point but has never been so close or seen a match so
>legitimately violent. Danielson, in plain burgundy trunks and
>with a shaved head, wrestled with a desperate anger. Walking
>back to the subway after the show my brother and I lamented at
>how unfair the state of wrestling was THEN; we both came away
>feeling Danielson was the best wrestler on earth but due to
>his plain presentation and size he’d never make the WWE.
>
>In my opinion, the best five wrestlers on earth (in no order),
>are Punk, Danielson, Reigns, Sasha Banks, and AJ Styles.. When
>I was deep in the indies in the early 2000s I would’ve never
>imagined that some of these guys would go on to become true
>legends.

Wow. Yeah, it had to be crazy to see dudes in those environments during that era.

I keep bringing up that ‘post-Attitude’ era. Wwe is starting their propaganda on that era now too. To me, WWE was doing a rebel yell to put belts on Benoit and Eddie during that time. And neither one lasted in the main event for long. And then the bad shit happened. Then Angle was all fucked up physically and with the pills and shit. Brock was gone. Rock, Austin, and Foley were gone. WCW was gone. TNA was trying to figure it out and Jarrett was on some bad HHH shit. I remember falling away from wrestling a bit during that time. I was out and about more during that time and most of my IRL friends had stopped watching years before so there it was. I damn near missed King Booker for instance. But I got back in just in-time to have my ass in person for Mania 25 (HBK/Taker). Whew!

Back to now: when I actually take the time to get into New Japan, I love the fuck out of Okada. He’s got just about everything. He’s like a more exciting Orton to me. And Kenny is pretty fucking good too. He’s just got to be framed properly. To me, he was wonderful in New Japan. And he’s gotta be healthy. Apparently he’s been down bad physically for pretty much the whole AEW era. I still think he’s gonna kill shit when he comes back. The heel run to try to make Hangman had its warts for sure but he laid his ass down when the time came and that shouldn’t be taken for granted. We can’t forget how many times across rasslin history where dudes wouldn’t take a real loss when it was time no matter the fuck what. I’m still annoyed at how the the WCW folks try to make up excuses for fucking up Starrcade 96 with Hogan/Sting…blaming everything and everyone except Hogan, who was obviously being a bitch when it was time for him to lay his ass down. By contrast, he did it right for Goldberg and now I still have to see that mfer because of it.

  

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168. "So I was at first excited about the Khan "announcement" on Wed...."
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Now I'm not so sure.

When it was first announced, it sounded promising, because it was framed as "someone is coming through the Forbidden Door." I figured it was NJPW, and they might be bringing in Kohada or Will Osprey (who's apparently stateside and "fighting" with Omega on Twitter), or, failing those two, Juice Robinson. There's also been talk that Keith Lee is about to debut, but that was a free agent signing.

Then Khan changed it to "free agent signing coming through the forbidden door and slamming it on his former employer." And he's supposed to fight Isiah Kassidy in qualifier for the Ladder Match at Revolution. That sounds a lot like a set-up for Jeff Hardy, which would make me considerably less excited. Bringing him in certainly doesn't merit the hype.

It'd be interesting if it was Mustafa Ali, to challenge the "independent contractor" thing, but I doubt AEW wants to poke that bear.

What I'm dreading is that it's a fake out to announce Cody re-signing with AEW.

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169. "Kross?"
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170. "RE: So I was at first excited about the Khan "announcement" on Wed...."
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>Now I'm not so sure.
>
>When it was first announced, it sounded promising, because it
>was framed as "someone is coming through the Forbidden Door."
>I figured it was NJPW, and they might be bringing in Kohada or
>Will Osprey (who's apparently stateside and "fighting" with
>Omega on Twitter), or, failing those two, Juice Robinson.
>There's also been talk that Keith Lee is about to debut, but
>that was a free agent signing.
>
>Then Khan changed it to "free agent signing coming through the
>forbidden door and slamming it on his former employer." And
>he's supposed to fight Isiah Kassidy in qualifier for the
>Ladder Match at Revolution. That sounds a lot like a set-up
>for Jeff Hardy, which would make me considerably less excited.
>Bringing him in certainly doesn't merit the hype.
>
>It'd be interesting if it was Mustafa Ali, to challenge the
>"independent contractor" thing, but I doubt AEW wants to poke
>that bear.
>
>What I'm dreading is that it's a fake out to announce Cody
>re-signing with AEW.

I kinda wish it was Ali. He’s obviously being shelved over some backstage issue when he could be doing something somewhere with somebody.

I’m down with Kross or Keef but they don’t fit the description Tony has given.

I’m borderline confident it’s Jeff Hardy or Cody, if not both. I have to remember that Jeff Hardy was big shit sometime 10-15 years ago. And he can be occasionally fun. And him and Matt together for a last run is as good excuse as any to get some more light on the tag division. I never fully got over him falling off the wagon multiple times in TNA when they were counting on him. Hopefully he’s good in that front rn.

Sami and KO reupping with WWE makes sense to me if the money was great and those dudes aren’t dying to work long hard matches. I’m more annoyed with Cesaro staying cuz they obviously don’t give a fuck about doing much with him. To me, he deserves at least a Benoit ‘take him super seriously for 2 years’ type run where he wins a title. But there’s just no room for that with what wwe is trying to do now.

Zoomed out, Tony is bad at announcing that he has an announcement. It’s like Tony Schiovanne at his worst in the late 90s when he’d dramatically oversell everything.

  

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171. "My immediate thought was Jeff Hardy"
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172. "RE: So I was at first excited about the Khan "announcement" on Wed...."
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Jonathan Gresham. It could totally be him too.

I’m gonna go with ‘hope it’s Ali, assume it’s Gresham or Cody’.

>Now I'm not so sure.
>
>When it was first announced, it sounded promising, because it
>was framed as "someone is coming through the Forbidden Door."
>I figured it was NJPW, and they might be bringing in Kohada or
>Will Osprey (who's apparently stateside and "fighting" with
>Omega on Twitter), or, failing those two, Juice Robinson.
>There's also been talk that Keith Lee is about to debut, but
>that was a free agent signing.
>
>Then Khan changed it to "free agent signing coming through the
>forbidden door and slamming it on his former employer." And
>he's supposed to fight Isiah Kassidy in qualifier for the
>Ladder Match at Revolution. That sounds a lot like a set-up
>for Jeff Hardy, which would make me considerably less excited.
>Bringing him in certainly doesn't merit the hype.
>
>It'd be interesting if it was Mustafa Ali, to challenge the
>"independent contractor" thing, but I doubt AEW wants to poke
>that bear.
>
>What I'm dreading is that it's a fake out to announce Cody
>re-signing with AEW.

  

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173. "Last guesses?"
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I wish it was Ali but I assume its not because AEW doesn't want that drama. TK is already blowing enough money on this thing!

It is probably Jonathan Gresham. That's a reasonable as hell guess even if I think people will be unpleased about it.

If not, my guess is for Cody doing a troll then Keef Lee comes in for the save/instant love (since Cody doesn't mind getting used to give someone else a rub).

My 'Japan' answer is Ospreay with a Kenny return thrown in too to make it super wild. But hell, it could be Naito or whoever they were able to get from New Japan in exchange for Brian Cage or whoever NJPW wanted.

My 'crazy' answer is Kurt Angle: Perc-free old man edition.

The cool thing? it could be a bunch of different people.

The uncool thing: too many people are going to act like they got swerved if its not John Cena or Undertaker.

>Now I'm not so sure.
>
>When it was first announced, it sounded promising, because it
>was framed as "someone is coming through the Forbidden Door."
>I figured it was NJPW, and they might be bringing in Kohada or
>Will Osprey (who's apparently stateside and "fighting" with
>Omega on Twitter), or, failing those two, Juice Robinson.
>There's also been talk that Keith Lee is about to debut, but
>that was a free agent signing.
>
>Then Khan changed it to "free agent signing coming through the
>forbidden door and slamming it on his former employer." And
>he's supposed to fight Isiah Kassidy in qualifier for the
>Ladder Match at Revolution. That sounds a lot like a set-up
>for Jeff Hardy, which would make me considerably less excited.
>Bringing him in certainly doesn't merit the hype.
>
>It'd be interesting if it was Mustafa Ali, to challenge the
>"independent contractor" thing, but I doubt AEW wants to poke
>that bear.
>
>What I'm dreading is that it's a fake out to announce Cody
>re-signing with AEW.

  

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174. "Japan route would be the only interesting one to me"
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so i amhoping for that

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175. "Keith Lee appears to be on his honeymoon"
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My guess would have been him till I saw that. I mean, it wouldn’t be the first time a wrestler used social media to throw people off, but he really did just get married.

I’m gonna go with Jay White. He’s not doing too much for New Japan at the moment, so they can afford to send him over to Tony’s brand for a bit.

  

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180. "Even when I’m right, I’m wrong. SMH."
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>My guess would have been him till I saw that. I mean, it
>wouldn’t be the first time a wrestler used social media to
>throw people off, but he really did just get married.
>
>I’m gonna go with Jay White. He’s not doing too much for
>New Japan at the moment, so they can afford to send him over
>to Tony’s brand for a bit.

  

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177. "I'm also going to go with one of the Japan guys"
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It's gotta be someone who you can put in a match with Isiah Cassidy. It can't be Jeff Hardy if they're honoring no-compete clauses, and I don't know why you'd stick Keith Lee in a match with a high flyer off the rip.

I think it's someone from Japan, and Keith Lee is the "surprise" entrant of the match at the actual PPV.

Edit: Very outside chance it's Gargano. Yeah, I said that for Cleveland. But him fighting Cassidy would work.

And I agree, it's been so hyped at this point that it's going to seem like a let-down unless its a 1986 Ricky Steamboat.

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183. "Because Keith Lee swatting Cassidy away is a beautiful thing"
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Man I’m so glad to see him pouncing a smaller dude again. Adam Cole better watch out when he’s near barricades.

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184. "I will gladly take my L on that."
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178. "I'm gonna go with Samoa Joe"
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I reeeeeally hope it's not Jeff Hardy, especially if that means we're getting more of Matt Hardy by association.

Keith Lee is a solid signing but doesn't warrant all this hype IMO.

Would love one of the big NJPW gaijin, Jay White or Will Ospreay.

No interest in any ROH/Impact dudes.

  

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176. "."
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179. "this MJF intro loooooooooool"
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https://twitter.com/AEWonTV/status/1491579671443554310

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181. "Hangman/Archer was a little OD for me"
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HM and Adam Cole will be a good one whenever that is.

Tonight show overall was pretty good. Best show of 2022 for them so far.

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182. "RE: Hangman/Archer was a little OD for me"
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>HM and Adam Cole will be a good one whenever that is.
>
>Tonight show overall was pretty good. Best show of 2022 for
>them so far.

Yep. That main was a lot of a lot of stuff like most of these props matches are. I dig both guys tho and I’m glad HP got another good showing and win. I go way back with Lance Hoyt! Page is made with me already cuz he can do the matches physically..he’s just gotta be framed well. And he’s gotta wins couple matches vs opponents where people could see him losing in my opinion before he’s made. He will beat Cole baybay but he’s gotta take down someone who isn’t rehabbed just to be fed to him.

It’s crazy that their roster is filled to the point that every good wrestler they have doesn’t have to be on there every week for things to be good. Ie: Cody has wild heat but can just disappear and it’s fine for instance. And he’s only gonna get more heat whenever he shows up again.

And they’re already to the point where Jericho isn’t needed to carry a load for them on any kind of regular basis. And Kenny can curl up somewhere, get healthy, and show up to be a cherry on top.

MJF is made. Wardlow too. And for all of the love for MJF’s for real heel character and talking, that mfer is in-shape and can work his ass off too.

Keef is over cuz they just let him show up and be the Keith Lee that is crazy easy to like. Imagine that.

Punk is a good match machine and he’s gonna make the whole Pinnacle here.

Moxley is sober and it probably saved his AEW run in addition to all of the wonderful stuff it should mean for him IRL.

Jade looks great and is improving. Britt is still good and doesn’t have to eat a bunch of them every week either.

They keep finding random cutie pies to throw on my tv and I’m down with it. This is really a golden age of good looking womenfolk on rasslin in my opinion.

Miro was on a roll before he got hurt.

Jeff Hardy will be here before Easter and they’re already setting it up. And it will be fun even tho him and his brother are almost about done.

I loathe Sammy G’s whole thing with the signs but I think he’s gonna be great someday.

Brody King plus Black getting a few more recruits could/should help all of that out if they can space out the goofy stuff at least a little. Maybe ole Husky or Killer can come fill them out.

Overall, I like watching AEW cuz they at least try to tell me that lots of people are important/capable of doing worthwhile shit. It’s clunky at times like a bad TNA or WCW show cuz they’re trying to sooooo much different stuff sometimes but still. Give me that over the ‘watch these 2 segments then ignore everything else cuz we’re just filling time’ shit that Raw is most weeks.

  

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188. "RE: Hangman/Archer was a little OD for me"
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>He will beat Cole
>baybay but he’s gotta take down someone who isn’t rehabbed
>just to be fed to him.

I think he's fighting Cole too early if that does turn out to be the main event at Revolution. He should probably beat Moxley and the rematch with Omega. Then an officially heel Cody, who goes back on his word and challenges for the title. That would make Hangman pretty official.

>And they’re already to the point where Jericho isn’t
>needed to carry a load for them on any kind of regular basis.
>And Kenny can curl up somewhere, get healthy, and show up to
>be a cherry on top.

It's clear Jericho is turning heel again. Which is that right choice. Like you said, they don't **really** need him in the mix anymore. I'd rather he go off and be the heel commentator on Rampage.

>MJF is made. Wardlow too. And for all of the love for MJF’s
>for real heel character and talking, that mfer is in-shape and
>can work his ass off too.

Those two should have a great program in the spring/summer.

>Keef is over cuz they just let him show up and be the Keith
>Lee that is crazy easy to like. Imagine that.
>
>Punk is a good match machine and he’s gonna make the whole
>Pinnacle here.

Agreed. He'll go over in the rematch, but those dudes will be official.

>Jade looks great and is improving.

She definitely has the look, and her two previous matches were solid. But last night she looked as green as she's been on her worst days. Unless she's working with someone who can carry her, keep the matches short.

>Britt is still good and
>doesn’t have to eat a bunch of them every week either.

Indeed. Probably close to time for her to lose the title to Thunder Rosa though. She's cleaned out the rest of the division. Maybe have her fight Hayter, but drop the belt at either Revolution or the PPV after that.

>Miro was on a roll before he got hurt.

I'm really looking forward to him getting healthy and coming back. He was shaping into a beast.

>Jeff Hardy will be here before Easter and they’re already
>setting it up. And it will be fun even tho him and his brother
>are almost about done.

I agree. Bring them over and put them into programs with Private Party and the Young Bucks. Maybe Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus too.

>I loathe Sammy G’s whole thing with the signs but I think
>he’s gonna be great someday.

He's getting there. I'm not a huge fan of the signs, but I understand. He should be wrestling more often though.

Plus, AEW is still building Hook slowly. They've got Starks and Hobbs. Plus Martin. I'd like if they can find something consistent to do with Jay Lethal. And I'm all for them pulling the trigger on the Moxley/Danielson faction with Garcia, Moriarty, Yuta, and/or Nese.

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194. "i feel like the time to do that has come and gone"
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>That would make Hangman pretty official.

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185. "I agree, but the ending was great."
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Hangman vaulting over the ref was awesome. But it's time to retire all the Death Match/Lights Out shit for a while.


>HM and Adam Cole will be a good one whenever that is.

That's probably the Revolution Main Event in a few weeks.

>Tonight show overall was pretty good. Best show of 2022 for
>them so far.

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186. "hard to do a match like that and NOT have it end up sloppy"
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finish was pretty cool though

I thought Moxley/Punk vs FTR was incredible and I'm not even a Mox fan like that. This is Cornette's big thing about AEW - let the qualified vet pros be qualified vet pros and just move out of the way.

  

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189. "yeah that was a tight tag match"
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192. "Moxley's best match in AEW imo. by a lot."
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187. "Reminder: Vince had Keith Lee on the main roster and didn't know..."
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...what to do with him. Like, how do you screw that up? Is it ***that*** hard to have him do the same thing he did last night?

As I said above, I'll take my L on not thinking Kassidy would be a good first opponent for Lee. He was great. Selling getting thrown across the ring to start the match was awesome, and then screaming like 10-year-old girl when Lee tossed him up for the Big Bang Catastrophe was perfect.

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190. "Give me Keith Lee v Darby Allin like NOW "
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191. "Like, you even had him on your shows having WARS with Dijak"
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And you fumbled the bag so completely with BOTH of them? Punk was right, but HHH wasn't the guy leading Vince to short his cash stacks (though Johnny Ace and Prichard certainly are).

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195. "Man, I was saying this same exact thing last night"
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I really do get why Vince doesn’t like certain body types, but if you can’t get over that to see this is the most can’t-miss star that just fell into your lap, then what the fuck are we doing here? This guy should be challenging Roman or Brock at Mania and they just… let him walk. Fucking mind-boggling.

  

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196. "Like, the square-off with Brock at the Rumble!"
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You could have MADE dude off of that. Dude is solid charisma. And you have him just kinda fart around never really having a convincing moment, cover him up more and more, and then just call him Bearcat and let him sit with that?

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193. "best Dynamite of 2022 by a country mile"
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- first 15 minutes doesnt really need much else to he said. great TV.

- Sting is living in a very sweet spot, and being booked as well as anybody. i remember where I was when my pops and I watched the first Clash, and he's still making me feel something.

- 2 meaningless, but short, Young Bucks segments were but a minor inconvenience. i also have no opinion on Jay White

- Keith Lee looked great. id like to see him kicking ass in matches that dont actually mean anything for a while.

- Chris Jericho with his best TV segment in...what? a year and a half? when hes not trying to be liked he can still provide entertainment.

- Santana with a *fantastic* bit of mic time. intensity dropped hard when Ortiz and Guevara got involved verbally, but still the whole thing was miles better than I expected.

- the show really sucks when they do things backwards. the prevalence of insidery info in the digital world we grew up in has made Tony Khan a typical internet wrestling geek who leans in WAY too hard to "its a work bro". Page as champ, Jurassic Express as champs, Adam Cole as #1 contender, Gunn Club as #1 contenders...we watch the fucking TV show. instead of declaring something and then trying to convince us after the fact, make us clamor for it. make us believe that someone is supremely worthy of status BEFORE bestowing it upon them.

- Moxley with his best match of his AEW career. Cash Wheeler still a timeless performer. this teetered on going off the rails like 6 times, and each time it was eased back between the lines. excellent stuff. FTR is in rarefied air right now with their ability to make people look like superheroes, but id really enjoy seeing them win a bunch of matches in a row and rehabilitate the titles.

- AQA has a little personality and fire to her. too bad they did the typical AEW thing. give a debutant(e) an unearned secondary title shot and a loss on their first night. thanks for stopping by i guess.

- Serena Deeb calls out the entire locker room before declaring her "5 Minute *ROOKIE* Challenge" and bullying a jabroni. what an asshole. i love her so much.

- i 15-second-skipped the main event and every time the screen updated i felt better and better about that decision. this shit is beneath a World Champion imo, Adam Cole at the PPV doesnt exactly set my imagination on fire either.

- all the best things going right now are apart from a title picture other than Rosa-Baker, and other than Rosa-Baker they are all being driven by people who came thru WWE.

all in all, really really good stuff. makes me nervous for next week...

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201. "RE: best Dynamite of 2022 by a country mile"
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I was REALLY caught off guard with how good LAX was on the mic. They're gonna be great on their own.

It was a fun show fo sho. This show is what I imagine people think lots of old eps of Raw and (the good era of) Nitro was. It wasn't, but nostalgia is a weird feeling. And man, people would DIE if weekly shows now were like the old WWE Superstars type shows where damn near nothing would happen, interview segments were aplenty and seeing big stars like Hulk in ANY match was like seeing bigfoot riding a unicorn.

Raw and Nitro tho?

Nitro had banger matches on a reg. Raw? Not as much during the key era that folks fawn over the most. I remember Russo overtly not wanting a match to last more than one 'segment'. Both shows had debuts and surprises sometimes. Both shows took regular shots at comedy at all levels of the card with wildly varying results. That stuff is frowned upon more now..probably because it is often less funny and it rarely veers into its so bad its good territory. Matt Hardy, Danhausen, Chicago Maxwell, and Orange Cassidey all work on me in small doses but I loved Big Boss Man so I might be the wrong one to ask. I still can't believe that people were too serious about Broken Matt Hardy. It was obviously meant to be completely ridiculous. And it was.

>- first 15 minutes doesnt really need much else to he said.
>great TV.
>
>- Sting is living in a very sweet spot, and being booked as
>well as anybody. i remember where I was when my pops and I
>watched the first Clash, and he's still making me feel
>something.
>
>- 2 meaningless, but short, Young Bucks segments were but a
>minor inconvenience. i also have no opinion on Jay White
>
>- Keith Lee looked great. id like to see him kicking ass in
>matches that dont actually mean anything for a while.
>
>- Chris Jericho with his best TV segment in...what? a year
>and a half? when hes not trying to be liked he can still
>provide entertainment.
>
>- Santana with a *fantastic* bit of mic time. intensity
>dropped hard when Ortiz and Guevara got involved verbally, but
>still the whole thing was miles better than I expected.
>
>- the show really sucks when they do things backwards. the
>prevalence of insidery info in the digital world we grew up in
>has made Tony Khan a typical internet wrestling geek who leans
>in WAY too hard to "its a work bro". Page as champ, Jurassic
>Express as champs, Adam Cole as #1 contender, Gunn Club as #1
>contenders...we watch the fucking TV show. instead of
>declaring something and then trying to convince us after the
>fact, make us clamor for it. make us believe that someone is
>supremely worthy of status BEFORE bestowing it upon them.
>
>- Moxley with his best match of his AEW career. Cash Wheeler
>still a timeless performer. this teetered on going off the
>rails like 6 times, and each time it was eased back between
>the lines. excellent stuff. FTR is in rarefied air right now
>with their ability to make people look like superheroes, but
>id really enjoy seeing them win a bunch of matches in a row
>and rehabilitate the titles.
>
>- AQA has a little personality and fire to her. too bad they
>did the typical AEW thing. give a debutant(e) an unearned
>secondary title shot and a loss on their first night. thanks
>for stopping by i guess.
>
>- Serena Deeb calls out the entire locker room before
>declaring her "5 Minute *ROOKIE* Challenge" and bullying a
>jabroni. what an asshole. i love her so much.
>
>- i 15-second-skipped the main event and every time the screen
>updated i felt better and better about that decision. this
>shit is beneath a World Champion imo, Adam Cole at the PPV
>doesnt exactly set my imagination on fire either.
>
>- all the best things going right now are apart from a title
>picture other than Rosa-Baker, and other than Rosa-Baker they
>are all being driven by people who came thru WWE.
>
>all in all, really really good stuff. makes me nervous for
>next week...

  

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>I was REALLY caught off guard with how good LAX was on the
>mic. They're gonna be great on their own.

everything changed when Ortiz was flopping around in the orange juice and Jericho yelled into the mic "get up you idiot!"

ever since then its been a steady upward trajectory

>It was a fun show fo sho. This show is what I imagine people
>think lots of old eps of Raw and (the good era of) Nitro was.
>It wasn't, but nostalgia is a weird feeling.

its Nitro adjacent for sure, but its way too "wink wink nudge nudge" to ever consistently capture anyones imagination the way Nitro did

>And man, people
>would DIE if weekly shows now were like the old WWE Superstars
>type shows where damn near nothing would happen, interview
>segments were aplenty and seeing big stars like Hulk in ANY
>match was like seeing bigfoot riding a unicorn.

i think the show should be more like that tbh. 2 more PPVs for $40 each instead of $50 each, with weekly TV of 55% taling 45% wrestling. matches dont make me care about people because

A) i dont care about who these people are outside of television

B) Rey Misterio and Juventud Guererra already did whatever they think they should do

make me like you as a pro wrestler with a microphone, and youve got me. try to make me like you because of your feats of athletic prowess, and im probably going to wish id just watched real sports instead.

>>Both shows took
>regular shots at comedy at all levels of the card with wildly
>varying results. That stuff is frowned upon more now..probably
>because it is often less funny and it rarely veers into its so
>bad its good territory. Matt Hardy, Danhausen, Chicago
>Maxwell, and Orange Cassidey all work on me in small doses but
>I loved Big Boss Man so I might be the wrong one to ask.

Its way often less funny, because people are trying too hard to BE funny. When something bad happens to an idiot because he was being an idiot (like Disco Inferno)...thats funny. When a cocky asshole ends up with his birthday cake all over his face (like James E), thats funny. When a testosterone fueled jerk gets kicked in the nuts (Rick Rude), thats funny. But people who cant act, doing skits written by people who cant write, is not funny.

And its interesting you mention Danhausen and Orange Cassidy so close together, because I like Danhausen for the exact reason I dont like Orange Cassidy. Danhausen is a guy who says he does a gimmick to make money, whereas we're to believe Orange Cassidy really is this goofball. When your gommick is that you dont care, and its treated like its real,well then why did you even come to the arena? Just stay home and smoke a J.

And regarding Big Bossman...he still acted like a real person. Someone who took his job way too seriously, and had a very strong reaction to people saying bad things about his mother. I can buy that, and when he acted absurdly he kept it between those lines. He even knew how to be funny in a subtle way as Corny's heavy because it stayed realish.

> I
>still can't believe that people were too serious about Broken
>Matt Hardy. It was obviously meant to be completely
>ridiculous. And it was.

the problem with stuff like this is that Excalibur has NO idea what to do with it. he thinks he is supposed to be part of the show, and every now and then he pulls Schiavone along with him. so when Broken Matt is doing schtick and Excalibur tells us that he really does have the spirit of an ancient being inside him, like...fuck you bro lol.

people were serious about it because the announcing treated it seriously and its the one problem with the show thats never been fixed. the announcing is always best when Excalibur isnt around, whether pandemic/wedding/cancel risk/whatever.

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229. "RE: on talking and comedy:"
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You make a great point on the announcing. In so many mediums now, the announcing can drive things off a cliff. And it is probably the part of most wrestling shows that is most behind the times. Wrestling HAS changed. The audiences HAVE changed. A lot of the announcing is still versions of old announcing.

I grew up on Jim Ross (Midsouth/NWA), Gorilla (WWF), and their partners. And I hung on their every word to tell me what I was seeing and how I should feel about it. I dug some ECW OHHHH MYY GODDD too.

Now, I only even kinda pay attention to Pat, Graves, and recent wrestlers (Samoa Joe, The Pope, Punk, those dudes). And I'm just catching one-liners and character goodness even with them. Fan/glad to be there McAfee is the best thing going in a walk for me. I much prefer that to JR taking AEW's money while going into biz for himself when he sees something that Bill Watts wouldn't like. He did it a bit on the New Japan stuff but he's REALLY doing it a lot now.

I think a big part of why TNA Broken Hardy worked better than AEW Broken Hardy was that TNA made a pretty strong point to talk as little as possible while that stuff going on. Of course, with the movie matches, there was no chance to talk over it and screw it up.

Sometimes, I think it is because watching Japan rasslin without knowing the language meant you could only 'feel' the mood of the announcer in between the BRAINBUSTAAAAAAAAAAAs!.

Or maybe I enjoy live sports and there's no telecast going for that so I'm subconsciously trying to train myself to treat my watchings like I'm there!? Shit..I don't know.

Whatever it is, I only notice announcing when I think it is really good (I loved Romo when he showed up on CBS) or aggressively bad (Jericho yelling shit that doesn't need to be yelled on a reg, Matt Striker laying down a 28-second analogy).

Whatever my deal is, I think I know what I like and almost no announcer isn't going to ruin it for me most of the time (those badass Johnny Gargano Takeover matches). And an announcer getting crunk about some bullshit isn't going to make me like some bullshit more either (some Apollo match that I want to dig but I can't cuz I know WWE dgaf about the dude at all). Maybe its a strength, maybe its a weakness! But I have it.


>>I was REALLY caught off guard with how good LAX was on the
>>mic. They're gonna be great on their own.
>
>everything changed when Ortiz was flopping around in the
>orange juice and Jericho yelled into the mic "get up you
>idiot!"
>
>ever since then its been a steady upward trajectory
>
>>It was a fun show fo sho. This show is what I imagine people
>>think lots of old eps of Raw and (the good era of) Nitro
>was.
>>It wasn't, but nostalgia is a weird feeling.
>
>its Nitro adjacent for sure, but its way too "wink wink nudge
>nudge" to ever consistently capture anyones imagination the
>way Nitro did
>
> >And man, people
>>would DIE if weekly shows now were like the old WWE
>Superstars
>>type shows where damn near nothing would happen, interview
>>segments were aplenty and seeing big stars like Hulk in ANY
>>match was like seeing bigfoot riding a unicorn.
>
>i think the show should be more like that tbh. 2 more PPVs
>for $40 each instead of $50 each, with weekly TV of 55% taling
>45% wrestling. matches dont make me care about people because
>
>
>A) i dont care about who these people are outside of
>television
>
>B) Rey Misterio and Juventud Guererra already did whatever
>they think they should do
>
>make me like you as a pro wrestler with a microphone, and
>youve got me. try to make me like you because of your feats
>of athletic prowess, and im probably going to wish id just
>watched real sports instead.
>
>>>Both shows took
>>regular shots at comedy at all levels of the card with
>wildly
>>varying results. That stuff is frowned upon more
>now..probably
>>because it is often less funny and it rarely veers into its
>so
>>bad its good territory. Matt Hardy, Danhausen, Chicago
>>Maxwell, and Orange Cassidey all work on me in small doses
>but
>>I loved Big Boss Man so I might be the wrong one to ask.
>
>Its way often less funny, because people are trying too hard
>to BE funny. When something bad happens to an idiot because
>he was being an idiot (like Disco Inferno)...thats funny.
>When a cocky asshole ends up with his birthday cake all over
>his face (like James E), thats funny. When a testosterone
>fueled jerk gets kicked in the nuts (Rick Rude), thats funny.
>But people who cant act, doing skits written by people who
>cant write, is not funny.
>
>And its interesting you mention Danhausen and Orange Cassidy
>so close together, because I like Danhausen for the exact
>reason I dont like Orange Cassidy. Danhausen is a guy who
>says he does a gimmick to make money, whereas we're to believe
>Orange Cassidy really is this goofball. When your gommick is
>that you dont care, and its treated like its real,well then
>why did you even come to the arena? Just stay home and smoke
>a J.
>
>And regarding Big Bossman...he still acted like a real person.
> Someone who took his job way too seriously, and had a very
>strong reaction to people saying bad things about his mother.
>I can buy that, and when he acted absurdly he kept it between
>those lines. He even knew how to be funny in a subtle way as
>Corny's heavy because it stayed realish.
>
>> I
>>still can't believe that people were too serious about
>Broken
>>Matt Hardy. It was obviously meant to be completely
>>ridiculous. And it was.
>
>the problem with stuff like this is that Excalibur has NO idea
>what to do with it. he thinks he is supposed to be part of
>the show, and every now and then he pulls Schiavone along with
>him. so when Broken Matt is doing schtick and Excalibur tells
>us that he really does have the spirit of an ancient being
>inside him, like...fuck you bro lol.
>
>people were serious about it because the announcing treated it
>seriously and its the one problem with the show thats never
>been fixed. the announcing is always best when Excalibur isnt
>around, whether pandemic/wedding/cancel risk/whatever.

  

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230. "The Pope is/was great on NWA"
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i kinda fell off, not sure if hes there still. Pat McAfee is really good and I get the sense he can be a LOT better still when he decides that he hates certain people and will irrationally attack them or haye on their opponents. Corey Graves is a little bit too much of a try-hard for for me, and Jericho is a try-way-too-hard.

Taz...extreme hot and cold for me. The insider terminology gets really old, but i love the physiological bases for holds and throws, and the judo knowledge touches a happy place for me as a former judoka myself.

i have to say, I appreciate JR as the avatar for the "regular" person watching the show. he says what Im thinking at an alarming frequency. someone has to be a regular fuckin guy in the booth. it just jas to be that way, and if the show becomes something that a regular person cant justify he cant NOT talk about it or he ends up looking like an idiot.

and i know exactly what you mean about the announcers setting the emotional/moral base for the action. Schiavone doing the D-M-D gestures while its revealed the Britt Baker put a bounty on Thunder Rosa...what the fuck man?? thats morally repugnant, and his lack of reaction is the bright red FAKE light going off. why doesnt he care? if he doesnt care, why should I?

its so frustrating because that was his strength during peak Nitro. the fear, the joy, the disgust during the ups and downs of WCW vs the NWO was vital to the way it came off.

i have to ask after the BRAINBUSTAAAA comment...


are you Lapsed??

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197. "Seth's character is so fucking bad rn"
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every week my jaw is just on the floor that this is what he got to work with

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198. "HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHHA HAHHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHHA"
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Hahahahaha ahahahahahahha ahahhahabahahahaha

  

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199. "RE: HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHHA HAHHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHHA"
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>Hahahahaha ahahahahahahha ahahhahabahahahaha
>

He's basically Sami Zayn with Joker suits and a higher spot on the card. I love both rasslers but their characters are a mess on WWE TV now. Oddly enough, it would probably still work if they won more matches when they counted. But WWE is already super extended with 2 'main' champions, an NXT champion, and 'secondary' champs.

And they're obviously trying to focus on their hosses having the big title matches, so 'good match' dudes / solid hands are back to being lowkey screwed if they can't get over doing some shenanigans.

BUT if they've conditioned people to care more about how hugely successful the WWE is monetarily, what does it matter if some old nerds like me don't like how the solid hand dudes are being treated? That's rhetorical. It doesn't fucking matter! They're making money for creating content. They have a shitload of content. It is still getting watched enough that the people paying for the content are...errr...generally content. And people are buying tshirts and figures (those WWE Elite figures are excellent-looking). So its gonna keep rolling.

  

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200. "This Brock interview on the Pat McAfee show is awesome"
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Guy is a fucking riot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5hE5aGGASw&ab_channel=ThePatMcAfeeShow

Brock starts around 2:05:45

  

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211. "Yeah but then I gotta listen to Pat McAfee"
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202. "wow...Cody and Brandi Rhodes leaving AEW"
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Tony Khan:
https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1493602087481061377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1493602087481061377%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frajah.com%2F


Cody (of course it's too long):
https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1493601980215930880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1493601980215930880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frajah.com%2F

  

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203. "So, apparently Cody is bouncing. I assume to WWE"
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He posted a long "goodbye" letter and Tony Khan confirmed it. I guess it could be a work, but that seems sorta unlikely.

If he is indeed leaving, I gotta give him props for helping set up AEW and building the culture there. It certainly wouldn't have made it in those early months without Cody's presence. His very obvious connection to the Nightmare Factory has been integral. And him using his first stint as the TNT to introduce new talent was pretty awesome.

That said, AEW has reached the point where it doesn't really need him anymore. And he's clearly been more and more out of touch with what the audience wants and how to connect with them. And I don't think that's going to improve in the WWE.

Also, if this isn't a work, I think he really should have put more people over on his way out. Yes, he lost to Sammy in that ladder match, but that was only after he unnecessarily won back the title in what I assume was an attempt to keep him around while they tried to work out a new contract.

Regardless, props to Cody for getting something going that brought me back to pro wrestling. Hopes he enjoys the money from the WWE, 'cause the creative side is going to be wack.

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204. "LMAO he'll get exactly what he deserves"
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Maybe they'll surprise us and capitalize on that jump in a serious way.

But as you said, creatively, he's going to a cesspool. My guess is, he'll get a nice honeymoon run and that will be that.

That said, I agree with a lot of what you said. He was critical to building AEW to what it is, arguably second to Jericho. I'm happy for that likely pay day.

But he still deserves whatever he gets from WWE.

  

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206. "I see some saying he'll help the AEW to WWE pipeline"
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The only way works is if Vince decides not to book him into mid-card oblivion. And, I mean, c'mon, it's Vince. Cody might get a win over someone bulletproof at WM, but Vince has been obsessed with "humbling" people who come from another spot to the WWE. I ***really*** doubt that changes here. No way he lets the "competetion" guy win anything significant. So anyone saying that Cody is going to get a world title run is smoking sherm.

The only thing remotely interesting that could happen is if Vince puts Cody in charge of NXT. But even in that case he ends up the scapegoat if 2.0 continues to plummet.

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208. "It's possible. But you're dead on about Vince"
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Frankly, if Vince had the sort of mindset that would take advantage of this, their creative wouldn't be the dumpster fire it is.

Hurt Business should be running roughshod over the entire card right now, for starters, Brock included.

  

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205. "Losing Brandi is addition by subtraction"
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But I was always interested in what Cody was doing, especially lately with this slow-burn heel turn that he was seemingly setting up.

  

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207. "Also, if he goes to WWE, I want him vs Seth at Mania"
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and I need them to give him a stable.

Give him Cesaro, Dolph and Roode, and let them do something meaningful.

  

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209. "RE: Also, if he goes to WWE, I want him vs Seth at Mania"
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>and I need them to give him a stable.
>
>Give him Cesaro, Dolph and Roode, and let them do something
>meaningful.

I came in to type this. I want him vs Seth as well. It is big enough to be big. The match would bang. And it would signal 'hey, WWE is at least going to pretend that they think getting Cody back this soon is a big deal'.

This is the thing: he's gotta win AND LOOK GOOD DOING IT. Not an introductory shock squash either. I'm talking about something like when Kevin Owens beat Cena early on during his main roster run..aka Cody needs to be made 'real' by someone. If that's Rollins, cool.

The faction? I dunno, but I know I don't want Ziggler anywhere near it but maybe that's my personal affliction. I still can't get over hating Ziggler for not leaving when he had the chance to go on his own, wrestle his ass off somewhere else and put a 'hey, this guy IS pretty awesome' kind of stamp on his career. Instead, he went off and told jokes while basically being a joke on WWE TV. The 'I'm a good wrestler' character was the shits to me. Its almost like they gave him that character to troll him and the internet.

Zooming out a bit: WWE should be glad AEW exists. It gives people another biggish place to work and improve without WWE having to bankroll it or manage it. And even better, AEW puts a little bit of pressure on WWE to not completely fall into DGAF territory. Yes, I'm saying WWE could be much worse. Cuz they could!

  

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213. "Weirdly AEW has been OK for WWE but death for NXT"
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Especially after they made the dumb fucking decision to put that up against AEW "huh huh because we'll beat their indie guys with our indie guys."

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215. "RE: Weirdly AEW has been OK for WWE but death for NXT"
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>Especially after they made the dumb fucking decision to put
>that up against AEW "huh huh because we'll beat their indie
>guys with our indie guys."

Yep. You're right.

And then WWE felt trapped into saying 'well, fuck all of these indie guys everywhere. They're just indie guys. This is WW fucking E! Look at our big as big can be muscle guys! YEAH! The indies can't fuck with THIS! Oh, and look at how much money we have! YEAH! Don't you enjoy this show more because you know it is making someone a bunch of money!? Well? Don't you!? YEAH!'.

But oops: Bryan Danielson heard what they said too. And CM Punk went from thinking about going back to WWE to thinking 'not only am I not going back to WWE, I'm going to go try to put over as many of these AEW dudes as humanly possible before I get too old to be out here rasslin'.

I keep saying this though: WWE pivoting off of NXT as it was makes SOME sense once AEW put up more money to be the same type of show. The issue with AEW is also something we've all been over. Sometimes AEW gets 'too little indie' and shit goes off the rails for segments if not whole shows at a time when Punk and Bryan aren't on the screen lending cred to what is happening. But also, NXT was getting to the point where the best guys on the show would almost obviously be screwed once on the main roster. And WWE wasn't going to drastically change the main roster shows to be more wrestling-centric to help the smaller guys get over. Not while Vince is alive with stooges on his side!

But, like it has happened before, WWE moving away from so many wrestlers has and will help the other companies have better shows.

On the other hand, it was only a matter of time before some of these 'indie guys' got over on these shows then wanted to make their way to WWE and try to get over on 'the grandest stage'. Cody fits the bill for sure. You know he hated being in that promo closet before he left.

I just hope like hell that we don't find out Cody was keeping AEW on the rails and now we're about to go completely off task somehow. I'd assume this was NOT the case but we'll see if this isn't a work.

  

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216. "LMAO@the Dolph hate. He does kind of have that X Pac vibe "
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at this point

His run vs Ambrose when they renewed the brand split pretty much killed any hope I had for him. That was my guy for a long while.

As he was for a lot of people.

But I've maintained soft spot for him, and I still think he can do meaningful work. Frankly, I've lost all enthusiasm and excitement for everyone in WWE.

This Cody thing is a jolt though, because, while I agree with you on Vince, I just listened to Keller state that he's heard that Vince is excited at the proposition of treating Cody like a big deal after stealing him from AEW.

I trust Keller overall, as he's not really given to the wishy washy tendencies of Meltzer, though he's still technically a dirt sheet guy.

So we'll see.

  

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218. "That’s cause they give Ziggler a shitload of money to stay"
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It’s not that he’s “happy” in his role, it’s that every time his contract is up they back up the Brinks truck. I can’t blame anyone for saying yes to that.

  

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210. "I wonder if this is a work"
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He’s been so polarizing for so long, ending this way just feels too anticlimactic…

I don’t know. If it’s a work wouldn’t it be a master stroke? Come back and actually do the heel turn, renege on his vow to never challenge for the title and call out Hangman. That’s not money? I dunno man, that’s more inspired and relevant and a bigger draw than anything Vince would do for him.

  

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212. "RE: I wonder if this is a work"
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>He’s been so polarizing for so long, ending this way just
>feels too anticlimactic…
>
>I don’t know. If it’s a work wouldn’t it be a master
>stroke? Come back and actually do the heel turn, renege on his
>vow to never challenge for the title and call out Hangman.
>That’s not money? I dunno man, that’s more inspired and
>relevant and a bigger draw than anything Vince would do for
>him.

It would be something like the best 'work' since CM Punk beating Cena, blowing a kiss to Vince, then 'leaving with the title'.

I think it could be big fun regardless as long. But the key is as you guys have laid out above: Vince and WWE NEED TO GET IT!

WWE they could do themselves a major favor by making sure to take care of Cody this time out. And it ain't like they couldn't use another star or 5 around while they groom Rex Steiner and them for 3 or 4 years from now. If they played their cards even kinda sorta right, they could have Cody HOT AF in WWE in short order. And he obviously knows how to work a clean and simple WWE-style match.

  

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214. "I seriously doubt it. Keller has covered the situation for a minute "
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This would be a pretty good work though, if it were. But given Keller's ongoing coverage of this, I'm not surprised at the split, and his podcast today is pretty solid confirmation for me.

  

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217. "Probably an unpopular opinion: I hope Cody keeps his theme"
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Sure, stylistically, it's bland, diet post-hardcore bro metal (or whateverthefuck, there are so many goddmaned genres at this point), but i think his entrance and the song work perfectly.

Also I think it works great as a theme for him, specifically- and specifically as a Rhodes. The lyrics always make me think of him in the context of carrying Dusty's legacy, and I'd say he's done a fine job of that.

I like Cody, and think he's a top guy, even if I don't see him as a top of the top guy the way he does. He's a fantastic worker though. And I think this theme does him justice.

I'm not listening to that shit in the car though lmao


  

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219. "100%. In fact, make it MORE elaborate, if that’s possible."
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I really think it’s like 50% the reason why the fans turned on him.

  

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220. "So do we make of the idea of Austin coming back at WM?"
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In-ring, that is. He's reappeared at his fair share of Wrestlemanias, but it looks like they're setting up him to returning to the ring for the first time in almost 20 years to defend the honor of Texas against Kevin Owens.

I know this is help WM sell-out and to get it more interest/mainstream coverage, but I don't see a great match coming out of it. And I don't see the point from Austin's perspective. Dude is rich beyond his wildest dreams and has serious injury issues.

I can at least see building up Rock/Roman. That makes some sense story-wise. This is just weird.

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221. "Zero interest. "
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If HBK is any bit of a friend of Steve he should already be on the phone with him begging him not to make the same mistake he did.

This is near-60 year old, 20 years removed from the ring. Even his recent appearances where he comes in and gives a couple stunners have looked like every bit of a 50-something year old man jumping on his ass.

Are Mania tickets THAT bad that Vince is trying to play this card??? And would it even work?

  

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222. "My two impulse responses:"
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1) this is such an improbably dumb and random idea. It serves no purpose. Owens is gonna job for what? And isn’t Austin’s neck dangerously fragile?

2) It will be a blast. That crowd is going to lose their minds. He’ll hit a stunner. I’ll mark out to the extreme…shit should I go?

an Austin match in 2022 makes as much sense as a Dr.Dre halftime show in 2022. Two old legends, turning in random performances that no one asked for, standing in the middle of football stadiums. And all that said, the Dre show kicked ass and an Austin squash match probably still will too.

  

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223. "Dumb, dangerous, and contrived "
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At least when Bret Hart came back despite not being able to take any bumps or do much, they had him squash Vince- an actual payoff, and a non wrestler old man getting his comeuppance.

Who cares about seeing Austin go after Kevin Owens? And Owens is an actual legit wrestler and a star. If this was 10 years ago…maybe. It’s too late.

  

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224. "he would do way more for them on weekly TV w/o wrestling"
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than he will by having a match on a show that will sell out regardless and wont make PPV money

Austin and something analogous to a modern Dangerous Alliance vs Stephanie and the Board of Directors for 3 months sounds way more interesting than Austin vs Kevin Owens for 6 minutes

unfortunately doing it right would require dramatically changing a lot about the show, and that aint gonna happen

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225. "Didn’t he break his foot while stunning Byron Saxton?"
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I have no doubt that he and KO can have great back-and-forth promos, but the match? Idk man.

  

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226. "didn’t get about snap his shit up doing a stunner last time"
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Just have him come in drink a few Steveweisers and hype the crowd up. I don’t want to see that man get hurt

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228. "RE: So do we make of the idea of Austin coming back at WM?"
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>In-ring, that is. He's reappeared at his fair share of
>Wrestlemanias, but it looks like they're setting up him to
>returning to the ring for the first time in almost 20 years to
>defend the honor of Texas against Kevin Owens.
>
>I know this is help WM sell-out and to get it more
>interest/mainstream coverage, but I don't see a great match
>coming out of it. And I don't see the point from Austin's
>perspective. Dude is rich beyond his wildest dreams and has
>serious injury issues.
>
>I can at least see building up Rock/Roman. That makes some
>sense story-wise. This is just weird.

Like every old guy showing up to rassle, I'm hoping Steve doesn't get himself hurt trying to do one more match just for the hell of it.

Allegedly he already has a ring that he's messing around in to see where he's at?

If there's good news here: Owens is a pro fo sho, Steve had already dramatically altered his in-ring style before his core run that made him his money, and I assume that he wouldn't do much.

Let's see: mild selling of some hella safe Owens offense to get the heat/set up inevitable comeback. MAYBE work in a million dollar dream spot to really make it seem like a match. MAYBE Steve will take a bullfrog splash. Then he gets to deliver a Thez press, mudhole stomps and maybe a super pointy elbow drop right quick. Then, they close out with elaborate reversal sequence into a stunner that Owens sells like death. Dallas is pleased. Beers get banged together.

The Dr. Dre Super Bowl analogy is excellent. As long as they kept it short and safe with some window dressing around it, it would be fine. And really, it ain't like they have anything else for Owens to do, which is for sure their own fault.

Or hell, they can skip the match to keep expectations even lower. Just do a mild altercation. Have Owens getting the upper hand on Austin. Lights out, gong/American Badass/whatever. Lights on, Austin back up into Stunner. Taker throws in a chokeslam. Austin and Taker hit beers together. All is fine.

  

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231. "ok so Moriarty can go a little bit"
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i was impressed w/ him live vs Shawn Spears. Bryan let him get his shit off tho

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234. "RE: ok so Moriarty can go a little bit"
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>i was impressed w/ him live vs Shawn Spears. Bryan let him
>get his shit off tho

Yep. This was good. I know I have been guilty of paying like no attention to the kid at all. It is good to see Bryan trying to shine a light on him while still continuing to rub elbows with the more 'name brand' people in AEW.

  

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232. "That was a fun show last night"
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Great promo by Punk. Awesome match with Moriarty and Danielson, followed by great promos by both Danielson and Moxley. The Inner Circle and the Rosa/Martinez matches were both thoroughly entertaining, and Sammy vs. Allin was suitably insane. Hell, I even enjoyed the Krease appearance.

Once they decide that they want to build to the PPV, things pretty always snap into place. It's just more noticeable early in the year because it's the longest between PPV events.

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233. "RE: That was a fun show last night"
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>
>Great promo by Punk. Awesome match with Moriarty and
>Danielson, followed by great promos by both Danielson and
>Moxley. The Inner Circle and the Rosa/Martinez matches were
>both thoroughly entertaining, and Sammy vs. Allin was suitably
>insane. Hell, I even enjoyed the Krease appearance.
>
>Once they decide that they want to build to the PPV, things
>pretty always snap into place. It's just more noticeable early
>in the year because it's the longest between PPV events.

I think some of the contract expirations and some time on the case might serve them well. And a lot of the reasonable critiques about their shows are fixable. They can reduce the big bumps until they feel like it is time given a certain situation or match (IE: Darby and Sammy are best days WCW Cruiser-level insane so of course they're gonna do crazy stuff when they work together). They can work on getting Cowboy Shit more over as the champ while still allowing Bryan and Punk to be excellent. Jericho can get decent on his way to either renewing or finding his way back to WWE. He's obviously better looking right now.

And now that the Cody situation is 'resolved', Cody can hopefully go be awesome in WWE (or swerve everyone and come back to do something wildly fun in AEW). And if there was any backstage weirdness with that, hopefully that is mostly gone too? Maybe THAT is a little optimistic..especially if some remaining folks were 'on Cody's side' in some way.

  

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235. "If the Cody angle is really he & Miz vs Mysterios…"
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Then Cody is a simp

and

WWE is lost for good

and

We should all feel embarrassed for having been so excited about this story

  

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236. "Where is that being reported?"
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I've seen Logan Paul speculated, but not Cody

  

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237. "Apparently…"
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…Miz cut a promo during Saudi Arabia show saying he’ll call a “dashing” friend of his who has TV show experience? Shrug.

Could of course be a maguffin. But since I have absolutely no faith in WWE’s ability to do things subtly or surprisingly , I’m concerned.

I’m telling you man…if it’s a work this is AEW’s version of Hogan joining Hall and Nash. They will have swerved everyone.

  

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241. "Whew"
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>Then Cody is a simp
>
>and
>
>WWE is lost for good
>
>and
>
>We should all feel embarrassed for having been so excited
>about this story

I’m already far less excited because I’m not optimistic Cody will show up and do anything important or at least really fun.

But I swear I’m glad he debut with the damn Miz to wrestle the Mysterios. So glad.

  

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238. "So what was the point of the men’s Royal Rumble?"
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What’s the point of having Brock lose the title early, then win the Rumble to get the WM title shot, if he wins the title back during the Elimination Chamber anyway?

Either have him retain and let someone else win the Rumble, or have him win th Rumble and have someone else at the Elimination Chamber. Having Brock do it all is just pointless.

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239. "wasnt paul e supposed to fuck brock on new years?"
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seems like they had 3 things to setup:

1) Paul E's swerve
2) Brock vs Roman
3) title vs title

if someone else wins the rumble while Brock is a champ it doesnt work. just seemed really condensed bc Day 1 glitched

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240. "Reigns screwing him over in the Lashley match"
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Gave him the motive to enter the Rumble and win to secure a spot against Reigns at Mania. Obviously, he’s Brock and he can just demand title shots, but in kayfabe he’s probably worried that Reigns will worm his way out of it, especially with Heyman on his side. In the meantime, he went to Saudi Arabia to get back the title he shouldn’t have lost.

I’m not saying it’s a good story, and it doesn’t seem like they’ve done a good job of explaining all that, but I understand the logic at play.

  

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242. "RE: So what was the point of the men’s Royal Rumble?"
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>What’s the point of having Brock lose the title early, then
>win the Rumble to get the WM title shot, if he wins the title
>back during the Elimination Chamber anyway?
>
>Either have him retain and let someone else win the Rumble, or
>have him win th Rumble and have someone else at the
>Elimination Chamber. Having Brock do it all is just pointless.
>

This was one of several ‘huge star comes in and kills everyone dead in short order’ Rumbles. They need to have a few of those to make the ‘we’re gonna make someone’ Rumbles hit even harder. And shit, if they don’t care much about anyone outside of Reigns and Brock, there’s no point in pretending until after mania.

But it seems like they needed to at least let a few folks shine more in the later part of the rumble. But they’re booking this shit and they know they’re trying to sell like 300k tickets in Dallas so hey. Taker in the hall, Austin in the ring, Cody doing something if they can get him is where we’re at. The 2 women’s matches will be big too. After that, we’re not exactly looking at mania 17 here.

  

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243. "this PPV has a very tepid feel"
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Keith Lee, Hobbs, and Wardlow in a multi man ladder match? for what? they just couldnt help themselves. Ricky Starks mic time was great as always tho.

yet ANOTHER multi man gimmick match to name a contender, with YET ANOTHER one to come, to set up the multi man ginmick tag title match? this is a "its only 130am and we already finished half an 8-ball" idea. too bad real feuds require talking, because Jurassic Express is not having a very memorable time with the belts.

Moxley and Danielsom have settled into a very WWE writers room story where there isnt really any dispute between them, but theyre going to settle one nonetheless!

Adam Cole and Adam Page seems like the definition of a 930pm midcard match

multi-man gimmick match featuring Matt Hardy's jabroni corps. i wonder if theyll play the clip of that time Matt Hardy almost died and then they let him keep wrestling?

now that MJF relayed his story of anti-Semitic violence i dont even want them to wrestle. i want them to go somewhere and talk quietly and be emotionally vulnerable with each other

Jericho-Kingston will probably actually be really good. and Britt Baker-Thunder Rosa should be as well, finally a womens title match with some heat.

but the rest is not really compelling me to get my wallet out

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244. "RE: this PPV has a very tepid feel"
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>Keith Lee, Hobbs, and Wardlow in a multi man ladder match?
>for what? they just couldnt help themselves. Ricky Starks mic
>time was great as always tho.
>
>yet ANOTHER multi man gimmick match to name a contender, with
>YET ANOTHER one to come, to set up the multi man ginmick tag
>title match? this is a "its only 130am and we already
>finished half an 8-ball" idea. too bad real feuds require
>talking, because Jurassic Express is not having a very
>memorable time with the belts.
>
>Moxley and Danielsom have settled into a very WWE writers room
>story where there isnt really any dispute between them, but
>theyre going to settle one nonetheless!
>
>Adam Cole and Adam Page seems like the definition of a 930pm
>midcard match
>
>multi-man gimmick match featuring Matt Hardy's jabroni corps.
>i wonder if theyll play the clip of that time Matt Hardy
>almost died and then they let him keep wrestling?
>
>now that MJF relayed his story of anti-Semitic violence i dont
>even want them to wrestle. i want them to go somewhere and
>talk quietly and be emotionally vulnerable with each other
>
>Jericho-Kingston will probably actually be really good. and
>Britt Baker-Thunder Rosa should be as well, finally a womens
>title match with some heat.
>
>but the rest is not really compelling me to get my wallet out

I’m into it. I think it’s gonna deliver something at least good. Sadly, I’m least interested in the Page/Cole title match. It’s a shame that they won’t give Page something heavy. It’s like they’re trying to build him up while he’s the damn champ. The stuff with Kenny worked out and Kenny took the pin like a damn man but it seems like all of the Page stuff since then is a substitute for something else they had planned. Maybe they were gonna do something with a heel Cody? I dunno. But hopefully they can get that right after Page beats Cole.

  

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246. "their fucking Page up big time imo"
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>> It’s like they’re trying to build him up while
>he’s the damn champ.

i picked up this vibe months ago. the time to convince us he's THE MAN was well before he got the belt, and winning a battle royal to get his title shot totally undermined that from jump.

>The stuff with Kenny worked out and
>Kenny took the pin like a damn man but it seems like all of
>the Page stuff since then is a substitute for something else
>they had planned.

i think its more that it was all in service of the "moment" when Page beat Omega. which was a good lil feel good thing, but they dont really know what they're supposed to do with it besides roll out the almighty workrate, with head drops and kickouts.

i think that lance archer deal was supposed to be his Shawn Michaels Hell in the Cell thing, but just doing stuff to check it off the booking checklist doesnt mean its gonna actually mean anything.

They need a real booker, instead of someone to rubber stamp a bunch of individual ideas. The show is so wildly inconsistent because theres no overarching philosophy.

i wish Billy Corgan ran AEW tbh.

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248. "also, i should say"
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im sure that the match will be very good from an "academic" perspective

it just doesnt mean anything to me because Adam Cole turned out to be a complete goof once he got more then 100 feet from HHH, and Adam Page is just kinda...there.

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245. "Are they gonna bleed twice? Punk/MJF and also BD/Mox? I hate that if so"
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247. "what do you mean??"
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if once is good, then twice must be great!

everyone knows that if you do something once and its cool, you should do it over and over and over and over again to achieve max coolness

duh

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249. "haha. My opinion on color is "less is more" "
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MJF/Punk, a dog collar match blowoff that's been building for months? Absolutely needs color.

Mox/BD, thrown together this week after a few flirty promos between the two? Hard pass.

  

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250. "I'm looking forward to everything except the Andrade six-man"
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(I assume there will be two six-man matches that night, after Fenix probably comes back next)

If there wasn't already a three-way on the card, I'd rather just see a Darby/Sammy/Andrade three person match.

Seriously, if there's anyone in the company who has a legit beef about his career getting side-tracked by getting caught up in other people's feuds, it's Sammy. He spent most of his first reign as TNT getting caught in Jericho vs. fucking Dan Lambert. And now he's a side player in this.

In a match that includes him and Darby and Sting, they shouldn't be playing the back-seat to a set-up for Andrade vs. Matt Hardy power struggle. Even if the next step is Jeff Hardy coming back.

Everything, else I'm fine with. I o hope it's FTR who gets the final spot in the tag team three way, and they win the belts back.

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252. "thats 100% the lowest point for me as well"
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Darby and Sting have actually done some pretty great stuff, but this isnt gonna highlight Sting's abilities at this point.

and Matt Hardy can really just go away as far as im concerned. hes a total drag on everything he touches and i dont really have an emotional connection to him because i lapsed in 2000 before they peaked.

the tag team match will probably be fun spectacle. theres just no meat on the bone. the tag teams have been booked like shit and this is a lazy way to set up the next thing. so lazy that i actually resent it being presented to me. im sure the action will be good, but its gonna be Rambo 4, not Enemy at the Gates.

The one thing that battle royale did was get me intrigued in FTR-ReDragon. Thats the kinda thing I could get down with for like a whole year of feuding. FTR pinning Jurassic Express is the best case scenario for me there as well

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263. "RE: thats 100% the lowest point for me as well"
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>and Matt Hardy can really just go away as far as im concerned.
> hes a total drag on everything he touches and i dont really
>have an emotional connection to him because i lapsed in 2000
>before they peaked.

Eh, at this point it's just going to be setting up for the Jeff return. Which will lead to some matches with Private Party. And then lead to a feud with the Young Bucks. And then he's served his purpose and can just focus on mentoring young guys away from the ring.


>the tag team match will probably be fun spectacle. theres
>just no meat on the bone. the tag teams have been booked like
>shit and this is a lazy way to set up the next thing. so lazy
>that i actually resent it being presented to me. im sure the
>action will be good, but its gonna be Rambo 4, not Enemy at
>the Gates.

I mean, I certainly haven't loved the tag team booking in AEW since the Young Bucks turned heel. And tag team wrestling is what got me into AEW. I'm just going to be happy with the action.

>The one thing that battle royale did was get me intrigued in
>FTR-ReDragon. Thats the kinda thing I could get down with for
>like a whole year of feuding.

I agree, but it seems like they're still building the Bucks & Omega vs. Cole and ReDDragon. But I do hope ReDDragon and FTR really get some time to get down.

FTR pinning Jurassic Express is
>the best case scenario for me there as well.

Yeah, probably. Giving Jurassic Express the belts is just their means of giving Jungle Boy time to shine. Probably can move into being a full-time singles wrestler. And let FTR get a longer reign as dastardly heel champs.

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251. "im looking forward to most of that card"
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Punk/MJF has been well developed in every day

Adam vs Adam has been a bit rushed but the match will be great if Cole brings it. Hangman always does

Mox/Bryan makes excellent sense w/o much buildup Mox cant just clique up w/ Danielson. that'd be out of character for him. and it'd be out of character for Bryan to run from the challenge

Thunder Rosa vs Britt will be good fun. Love those two.

those 4 alone are worth the PPV to me.

Would've liked to see Hobbs & Wardlow fight alone. and I damn sure don't need a ladder match out of those 3. I don't see Keith Lee really being a player in AEW.

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253. "RE: im looking forward to most of that card"
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>Punk/MJF has been well developed in every day

i thought so too until MJF shared that he was a victim of racial violence the day he met Punk, and that meeting Punk was basically the only reason he didnt take a bath with a hair dryer. that took a really weird turn for me. like...ive been to Auschwitz. i dont want to feel these emotions for MJF.

>Adam vs Adam has been a bit rushed but the match will be great
>if Cole brings it. Hangman always does

i said to Jim up there that the match will probably be good. I just dont care about them, and its got no championship feel to me.

>Mox/Bryan makes excellent sense w/o much buildup Mox cant just
>clique up w/ Danielson. that'd be out of character for him.
>and it'd be out of character for Bryan to run from the
>challenge

ive probably got some anti-Mox sentiment coloring my feelings here but this feels...odd. why would either of them want to glom on to the guy who beats them? Danielsom is probably the guy to get a real wrestling match out of Moxley that makes sense and doesnt devolve into 5-10 minutes of fucking around outside the ring, so theres that.

>Thunder Rosa vs Britt will be good fun. Love those two.

i agree. highlight of the night for me.

>Would've liked to see Hobbs & Wardlow fight alone. and I damn
>sure don't need a ladder match out of those 3. I don't see
>Keith Lee really being a player in AEW.

yeah this is bad. i dont want to see any of them wrestling each other YET. just keep beating the shit out of the midcard horde for a few months.

All Out seems like a good timeframe for any of them getting in the ring with each other. plus its an absolute crime that no one can figure out something meaningful for Ricky Starks.

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254. "Cesaro quietly exits WWE "
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https://twitter.com/BRWrestling/status/1496949016508043282?t=zgJEAPZdxbsnyTPVyTjZ7Q&s=19

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256. "RE: Cesaro quietly exits WWE "
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>https://twitter.com/BRWrestling/status/1496949016508043282?t=zgJEAPZdxbsnyTPVyTjZ7Q&s=19
>
>

I think this is great. I keep putting this down..if WWE doesn't want someone, WWE should let them the fuck go. No reason to hold these folks hostage. Let them go off and try to do their thing wherever they think they can.

We're getting to the point where there's enough people out there to make the indies flat out amazing. We damn near need another biggish company to come together. AEW is getting more gifts than it can open, unwrap, and play with all at once.

And we can say all we want about things AEW needs to fix (and there's shit they NEED to fix), but I can't imagine Murrican wrestling without AEW right now. Maybe NXT would've still been 'here's some straight up wrestling with little indy guys that we think nerds will like'. Even with that, NXT or some WWE brand needed to be a place for Rex Steiner and them to come up. So something was going to have to give there regardless.

I dunno..its still February, Mania is coming with some good stuff on it, AEW is getting some stuff right too (MJF is finna be huge and we're going to get a parade of good matches and stories in the mix even while they mess up stuff), New Japan is trying to get back on track, and US indies have all sorts of things going on. And stuff is moving and changing. Again. It sure seems like a good time to like wrestling stuff as long as you can live with everything not being a home run while these different companies mix shit up. Maybe it was easier when it was WWF, WCW, ECW, and Japan in 4 buckets. But still...there's a lot of good going it seems..just have to find it and enjoy it.

  

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255. "Apparently Cesaro is now a free agent"
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WWE contract expired and apparently they couldn’t agree on an extension. So he’s “quietly” leaving

Kind of surprised because I thought I’d heard he’d signed an extension.

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257. "I dont know how to say this without it coming off insensitive but"
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MJF is working here.

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258. "whatever it is, I'm loving it"
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>MJF is working here.

Probably so. Whatever is going on, it is good work in my opinion.

Tying in old online messages and/or framing real life situations to pack a wrestling story is classic/vintage stuff for the new era. And it adds a 'cool uncle putting on too much cologne' amount of febreze onto what has become a standard wrestling character's story for this era.

We know the story: so many of these folks we see fit this: 'I watched wrestling during the Attitude Era cuz me and my friends thought it was a cool thing to watch. We played the video games and bought the merch. And then I decided to devote my life to becoming the best damn video game wrestler ever. Look at my movez! Did you see that elaborate counter!? See my RVD/Jerry Lynn chain wrestling sequences, damnit! See them!. It is a fine story at times. And it is often a true af story for a lot of these guys and gals 35 and under in the biz now. But wrestling suffers when everyone has the same story. That's why ROH probably never 'hit' like it could've in my opinion.

But MJF? That dude has that AND the old 'ex football player who found wrestling somehow' thing too. And he UNDERSTANDS that this shit isn't just 'cool movez'. And if you're not 6 foot 2 and 255 pounds, it can't just be 'your look' no matter what WWE tries to tell folks sometimes. For a guy like MJF, he has to have his shit TOGETHER. And he does. And Punk latching onto it and trying to help him max (no pun) it out is somewhat easily my favorite thing happening on AEW or WWE TV right now. The match in Chicago was a beauty, the talking has been top end, and seeing the story unfold and layer up has been a joy.

Most of the IWC is mostly spoiled fans who think not liking stuff and knitpicking everything is a sign of being a high class fan of rasslin. If I disliked wrestling as much as some of these folks on the Twitter claim to, I would've moved onto something else long ago.

AKA I couldn't see swinging in on ropes anytime someone says they like something to throw my pinky in the air and hate on a show, wrestler, match, segment, whatever. Seeing that on OKP 20 years ago about random rap shit blew my mind back then. And I'm embarrassed for humanity that this type of shit has only expanded and found more apps since then. I wish all of these types of folks could just go off to an app called 'Hatr' and just hate shit for attention together. Yeah. H8er maybe? Something like that.

Anyway, I can appreciate that there's things that could be much better, but when something obviously good IS happening? And especially on the main/easy to find and follow shows like AEW and WWE? I'm generally going to latch onto it and make sure I don't fuck it up by focusing on being tired of seeing Andrade sloppily talk. Or being mad that Cesaro never found his way for long periods of time in WWE despite multiple big stars singing his praises on the reg. Or Adam Cole looking small compared to the damn Young Bucks and starting off in a hole in AEW. BTW, it is easy to forget that he was kinda just taking up space in NXT too before injuries put him in a few money spots, he killed it, and they kinda had no choice but to keep him up high.

  

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259. "I was not being critical of him at all, he's fantastic"
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I just dont see how this doesnt end with him laughing, giving a huge middle finger to the crowd which will just pour gasoline on his heat.

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261. "RE: I was not being critical of him at all, he's fantastic"
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>I just dont see how this doesnt end with him laughing, giving
>a huge middle finger to the crowd which will just pour
>gasoline on his heat.

Oh yeah, we're good!

And yeah, he's almost got to pull the rug at some point. It reminds me of when everyone was waiting on him to turn on Cody. I think it is going to be a fun ride. I'm going to let myself get worked though.

That diatribe from me was more of a big ass tangent on some of the dedication to negativity I see online in general.

  

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260. "100%"
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I think the story they are telling is MJF being clearly bothered/scared by Punk announcing the dog collar match so he's trying to be vulnerable to get Punk to be sympathetic to him. My guess is during the match as Punk is about to finally give MJF his comeuppance, MJF is gonna beg for mercy and catch Punk in a moment of sympathy/hesitation and do some dastardly shit and pick up the win.

Then on Dynamite he's gonna shit on the crowd for eating up his story and talk about how he kicked the shit out of anyone who tried to bully him on the football team and laughed at them throwing quarters at him because he had 100s in his pockets.

  

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262. "The only problem is that would be exactly like his match with Cody"
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>I think the story they are telling is MJF being clearly
>bothered/scared by Punk announcing the dog collar match so
>he's trying to be vulnerable to get Punk to be sympathetic to
>him. My guess is during the match as Punk is about to finally
>give MJF his comeuppance, MJF is gonna beg for mercy and catch
>Punk in a moment of sympathy/hesitation and do some dastardly
>shit and pick up the win.
>
>Then on Dynamite he's gonna shit on the crowd for eating up
>his story and talk about how he kicked the shit out of anyone
>who tried to bully him on the football team and laughed at
>them throwing quarters at him because he had 100s in his
>pockets.

Which isn't to say it won't happen, especially if Punk is intent on making him the biggest heel in the biz. But it would just be repetitive.

Also, you only do that if you're ready to make MJF the guy, put him in a program with Hangman, and probably win. And I'm not sure they're quite there yet. He hasn't even feuded with Wardlow yet.

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271. "I see this being the swerve as well, that's Corny's call too"
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>I think the story they are telling is MJF being clearly
>bothered/scared by Punk announcing the dog collar match so
>he's trying to be vulnerable to get Punk to be sympathetic to
>him. My guess is during the match as Punk is about to finally
>give MJF his comeuppance, MJF is gonna beg for mercy and catch
>Punk in a moment of sympathy/hesitation and do some dastardly
>shit and pick up the win.
>
>Then on Dynamite he's gonna shit on the crowd for eating up
>his story and talk about how he kicked the shit out of anyone
>who tried to bully him on the football team and laughed at
>them throwing quarters at him because he had 100s in his
>pockets.

  

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264. "Promo of the year and it’s only February"
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I don’t think they’ll really reveal whether the story itself is fake or exaggerated in some way. Maybe we’ll get the answer in an interview someday, but either way, it was brilliant. If real, I don’t think it even signifies a future face turn necessarily, it just makes him a better/more well-rounded villain (cause he legitimately thinks he’s in the right). The reality is Punk gets to wrestle wherever and whenever he wants to, and he didn’t betray anyone by saying no to a shitty situation, but from MJF’s perspective, he absolutely did betray him and us, and I’d understand why he felt that way as a teenager.

I loved Punk in this too. He’s playing right into MJF’s hand.

  

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265. "RE: Promo of the year and it’s only February"
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>I don’t think they’ll really reveal whether the story
>itself is fake or exaggerated in some way. Maybe we’ll get
>the answer in an interview someday, but either way, it was
>brilliant. If real, I don’t think it even signifies a future
>face turn necessarily, it just makes him a better/more
>well-rounded villain (cause he legitimately thinks he’s in
>the right). The reality is Punk gets to wrestle wherever and
>whenever he wants to, and he didn’t betray anyone by saying
>no to a shitty situation, but from MJF’s perspective, he
>absolutely did betray him and us, and I’d understand why he
>felt that way as a teenager.
>
> I loved Punk in this too. He’s playing right into MJF’s
>hand.

Yes. The best villains know how to get to 'the heart of the hero' in storytelling in general and also in wrestling. And even the most grand of 'heroes' aren't above having a heart at the wrong time and setting themselves up for a fall of some kind.

Taking the TV time to hint at all of this is masterful. And they both keep killing it when it is time for an important point in this story.

Zoomed out, the nerdy homages and just rock solid stuff that Punk has stuffed into this AEW run has been great. He clearly had a lot of time to think when he was out. I would have never guessed that Punk would have been this nuanced and grand coming back. But he's doing it. And he's lending validity to all of the crap he talked about rasslin while he was out. It is really the stuff of legends already. If for no other reason than getting Punk back wrestling, AEW has been useful. And this run is obviously influencing/calling out anyone else in a similar spot who hadn't been doing as well (IE: see how Jericho has tried to clean up his stuff. He even looks way better).

  

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266. "Going to 2 GCW shows this weekend"
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First time going. Them and New Japan happen to play LA venues that are right by my house when literally nothing in this city happens within walking distance. Feeling very fortunate.

If any fan throws something I’m gonna punch them in the back of the head though.

  

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269. "How were they?"
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270. "Very fun, although Night 1 ended with people throwing shit"
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Joey Janela turned on X-PAC and after about a minute of boos someone threw a beer can, then a bunch of other people followed suit. The moron next to me escalated things by throwing an entire bucket of ice, and then others followed suit with THEIR buckets of ice. I’m amazed that it actually cleared the ropes. It could have easily bounced back and hit some poor fuck in the head. I asked him what the fuck was wrong with him, but he didn’t have an answer.

I think throwing shit is dumb and dangerous, and it ruined what was otherwise a great night. I don’t like that GCW basically encourages it. I don’t believe there was an announcement on Night 2 that people shouldn’t do that.

Anyway, I forgot how fun the Briscoes are. I haven’t seen them live in like 5 years, I think. The entrance got people hyped and then the match was wall-to-wall action. I believe I was seeing Speedball and Ninja Mack for the first time live, and I enjoyed both. Homicide vs. Dr. Wagner Jr. was another fun match. The 16-year old AEW just signed was there. He was good, but he had some botches. Reminds me of early Will Ospreay where he has the moveset, but doesn’t quite have the transitional stuff or the storytelling down yet.

Night 2 was fun, but not quite as fun as Night 1. The highlight was Thunder Rosa vs. Tony Deppen. I love a heel who is genuinely good at getting heat. The night before, Deppen pretended to blow a snot rocket on his opponent before rolling him up. He’s awesome. Thunder Rosa is crazy over with the fans too. The crowd was 99.99% in her corner (one heel fan was yelling out obnoxious stuff)

Venue was great. The wireless mics and sound system were terrible though. Couldn’t hear a thing anyone was saying on Night 1, and Night 2 was not much better.

  

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272. "Deppen loves to wear his Ron Artest jersey here"
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While the reference is close to 20 years old I LOVE that he does it.

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273. "RE: Very fun, although Night 1 ended with people throwing shit"
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>Joey Janela turned on X-PAC and after about a minute of boos
>someone threw a beer can, then a bunch of other people
>followed suit. The moron next to me escalated things by
>throwing an entire bucket of ice, and then others followed
>suit with THEIR buckets of ice. I’m amazed that it actually
>cleared the ropes. It could have easily bounced back and hit
>some poor fuck in the head. I asked him what the fuck was
>wrong with him, but he didn’t have an answer.
>
>I think throwing shit is dumb and dangerous, and it ruined
>what was otherwise a great night. I don’t like that GCW
>basically encourages it. I don’t believe there was an
>announcement on Night 2 that people shouldn’t do that.
>
>Anyway, I forgot how fun the Briscoes are. I haven’t seen
>them live in like 5 years, I think. The entrance got people
>hyped and then the match was wall-to-wall action. I believe I
>was seeing Speedball and Ninja Mack for the first time live,
>and I enjoyed both. Homicide vs. Dr. Wagner Jr. was another
>fun match. The 16-year old AEW just signed was there. He was
>good, but he had some botches. Reminds me of early Will
>Ospreay where he has the moveset, but doesn’t quite have the
>transitional stuff or the storytelling down yet.
>
>Night 2 was fun, but not quite as fun as Night 1. The
>highlight was Thunder Rosa vs. Tony Deppen. I love a heel who
>is genuinely good at getting heat. The night before, Deppen
>pretended to blow a snot rocket on his opponent before rolling
>him up. He’s awesome. Thunder Rosa is crazy over with the
>fans too. The crowd was 99.99% in her corner (one heel fan was
>yelling out obnoxious stuff)
>
>Venue was great. The wireless mics and sound system were
>terrible though. Couldn’t hear a thing anyone was saying on
>Night 1, and Night 2 was not much better.

This sounds fun. It is cool that there's so many players out there now that 'random' indy shows can get pretty good again.

As a loaded side note, I'm wondering if WWE will really sack up and kill the brand split. Or will it be more of a passive killing where MAYBE certain people are mainly working on one day or another so they can try to manufacture pops when someone shows up on a show they aren't usually on? Or will it be more of a case where some characters are on pretty heavy and then off to 'cool off' or whatever? There's a lot of ways to go with it.

  

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267. "Now they're talking a Vince vs. MacAfee match to WM"
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This reeks of weird desperation. I know Vince is obsessed with the spectacle of giant sold-out stadiums, but I don't think hot-shoting a title unification and adding matches with him and Stone Cold is going to add 40,000 in ticket sales. Also, at this point WWE makes their money through guaranteed TV contracts and Saudi Arabia money. They don't need stadiums, except for ego.

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268. "it doesnt seem like a hot shot to me"
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theyve been winding their way here since SummerSlam and still 5 weeks away. it took a little gymnastics to set up the title vs title aspect, but if the new years day thing had gone off properly it wouldnt have seemed as awkward.

i think WWE programming is borderline unwatchable, but the heavyweights at the top is the one thing they can still do.

OTOH they *can* fuck up anything so i guess we'll see, but Roman vs Brock on Sunday night title vs title seems like as big of a deal as there could be in pro wrestling without The Rock involved. and i want to see Lashley challenge the winner too.

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274. "RE: it doesnt seem like a hot shot to me"
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>theyve been winding their way here since SummerSlam and still
>5 weeks away. it took a little gymnastics to set up the title
>vs title aspect, but if the new years day thing had gone off
>properly it wouldnt have seemed as awkward.
>
>i think WWE programming is borderline unwatchable, but the
>heavyweights at the top is the one thing they can still do.
>
>OTOH they *can* fuck up anything so i guess we'll see, but
>Roman vs Brock on Sunday night title vs title seems like as
>big of a deal as there could be in pro wrestling without The
>Rock involved. and i want to see Lashley challenge the winner
>too.

Yeah, I think they've pretty clearly told us that Brock/Reigns part 3 was coming for Mania. It was just a matter of how many half-matches and shenanigans would come before that. And if they'd sack up and make it be for both titles.

They've done so much work to tell everyone that Reigns is great. And he's smashed and stacked a gang of folks. And, at some point, he learned to be pretty great at a lot of things for real so it is working overall. I can't see how Brock doesn't lose at Mania to give RR another notch in his glorious belt. Then it is just a matter of who they try to prop up to lose to him in the spring until he gets a more 'real' threat laid on him in the summer on the way to Summerfest.

In all of this, I don't love how they moved off of Big E fast af, but who knows..MAYBE he did something they didn't like somewhere along the way and they got majorly turned off? From what I saw, the matches were there when they gave him a chance to work one. He was about as over as he was allowed to be.

But really...how can E or anyone really compete with Roman having the whole company laid out around making him look good (AND Heyman) and Brock being the king shit special attraction recurring character? Seems like damn near sabotage for everyone else trying to look good at the top for long. Almost everyone who is upper midcard is in that spot due to longevity and mystique moreso than some amazing stories being thrown their way. Rollins is laughing a lot. Drew is messing with Corbin. AJ was babysitting Omos. Orton is building Bro. Owens..c'mon now. Zayn and Nakamura may as well be JYD and Rick Martel.

  

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282. "The thing is they already put the work into building Big E"
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So like, what are they going to do another year of work to get him ready to challenge Reigns at this point? Or are they hoping they can keep everything in stasis so Rex Steiner can get some seasoning and be The Guy?

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275. "they added Pootie Tang SFX to Bianca's hair whip lol"
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276. "Please tell me you’re joking"
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I really hope you’re joking.

  

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277. "link"
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https://twitter.com/sashaftdak/status/1498479638779150339

maybe the mic job was just that good cause it left some marks but it just sounds comically loud to me

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278. "actually that noise really was legit "
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clip from the crowd
https://twitter.com/Codchrist89/status/1498483799855882244

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279. "Jesus!"
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Yeah I saw Becky’s wounds after the fact and they’re brutal.

  

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280. "Becky's belly says they're legit:"
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https://411mania.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Becky-Lynch-WWE-Raw-645x370.jpg

yo if they're gonna do that as a spot it needs to be in big matches haha that looks awful!

  

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281. "sonic boooooom"
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283. "Everybody really does love The Acclaimed"
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def the biggest pop in the tag rumble
and they lit up Kane too

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284. "They’ve been steadily getting themselves over"
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They’re apparently Khan’s “project,” (he put them together) so they’re going to be around for a while.

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287. "RE: They’ve been steadily getting themselves over"
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>They’re apparently Khan’s “project,” (he put them
>together) so they’re going to be around for a while.

When these dudes come from the back, I'm smiling as soon as I hear that first 'listen' cuz I know I'm gonna like it.

Heels insulting opponents, the crowd, and/or random current events-type people before a match starts is one of my favorite things in wrestling. It works on me almost every time.

Rick Rude calling dudes fat in every town and acting like he was only there to take people's women, Thuganomics Cena hating on a city's teams, Stone Cold calling Bret Hart a crybaby and a bitch for like forever to get him to come back for a fight, folks like that. And even Foley overtly being self-aware of saying the city for a cheap pop AND HAVING IT STILL WORK is a fav of mine.

  

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293. "RE: They’ve been steadily getting themselves over"
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>Rick Rude calling dudes fat in every town and acting like he
>was only there to take people's women, Thuganomics Cena hating
>on a city's teams, Stone Cold calling Bret Hart a crybaby and
>a bitch for like forever to get him to come back for a fight,
>folks like that. And even Foley overtly being self-aware of
>saying the city for a cheap pop AND HAVING IT STILL WORK is a
>fav of mine.

Ha. You made me think of this. Honestly, some of Rocky's best heel work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pwzB8y3Nk

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294. "the whole bit is A1"
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>
>When these dudes come from the back, I'm smiling as soon as I
>hear that first 'listen' cuz I know I'm gonna like it.

even before the LISTEN im already hype as soon as i hear the beat drop
Bowens mugging for the camera and screaming is hilarious
i don't think i've heard a dud Max verse yet
and they both look legit af

i'd love to see them scrap it out w/ FTR for a bit. especially knowing they taught Bowens how to tag team wrestle

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295. "i wish they could start winning some fucking matches"
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ive been banging this drum for a long ass time

these are pop culture stars waiting to happen, and they're being booked like a certain pair of someones are scared to let them get over like they could

theres no excuse in the world for Anthony Bowens to be losing to Orange Cassidy on television, or for Max Caster to get sent out to wrestle Wardlow.

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285. "Khan buying ROH seems pretty big"
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There’s still a lot of questions. Does he start running events? What does he do with the roster? Does he keep the current leadership?

Also, I gotta imagine that the next announcement is a streaming deal/partnership. You don’t buy the ROH content/library if you can’t stream it.

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286. "HBOMax has been thrown out there "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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288. "RE: Khan buying ROH seems pretty big"
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>There’s still a lot of questions. Does he start running
>events? What does he do with the roster? Does he keep the
>current leadership?
>
>Also, I gotta imagine that the next announcement is a
>streaming deal/partnership. You don’t buy the ROH
>content/library if you can’t stream it.

Yep. I'm glad they did it. They have so many ROH 'alumni' and that tape library has hella gold in it. Some I've seen with my own eyes, but a bunch of it? I missed it or only saw highlights or a feud in passing. So if it ends up with streaming, count me the hell in fo sho!

As for going forward, I'm guessing ROH might become the NXT of AEW. That could be a little dangerous but we'll see. NXT got to the point where it was so great at some things that it made people think less of the 'main roster' shows. AEW doesn't need to eat themselves up via producing another brand that outdoes it in any way.

  

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290. "RE: Khan buying ROH seems pretty big"
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Not crazy about one person owning multiple companies, but at least he’s legitimately a fan and will have bigger plans for the promotion than Sinclair does. My friend speculated that this could become sort of an NXT for AEW and that seems like the best route with how bloated their roster is getting. Probably a hybrid of developmental/old ROH/we don’t have TV time for these AEW folks. Could be interesting.

  

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292. "AEW is becoming bloated. I hope it stays as a second brand"
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They have a ridiculous amount of talent right now, and I'd like to see a real ROH show, treated as a world-class product, with it's own roster, titles, etc. Keep it as a real promotion.

I think there's enough talent in AEW to split things up a bit, ala the WWE Brand Split.

Suddenly, their mass of talent acquisitions looks like a boon that could actually be useful.

Instead of a draft, make it a story line to kick things off. Maybe you have a contingent of guys who are unhappy with the current way of things.

Maybe a recently signed Cesaro heads that up, and becomes the inaugural World Champion of the new ROH.

I don't know, I'm spitballing here. But I'd rather see this used to elevate the profile of AEW as a whole, by creating a better illusion of competition than what WWE did with Raw/SD, than simply use it as a developmental system. Make Rampage two hours, and make that an ROH show.

I think there's a genuine opportunity here to elevate AEW by elevating the ROH brand on a bigger stage.

  

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289. "Punk/MJF - of course it is great"
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Oh boy (c) Cam.

We've been watching this stuff long enough to know that MJF was setting a trap somehow. And sometimes, wrestling only works when the good guys go against reasonable suspicion and leaves himself open to be betrayed/fooled/tricked into an ass-whooping. Check and check!

And we spend a lot of time here talking about 'showing the work' when telling a rassling story. Punk and MJF (my jealous fan) took us through it all in this feud. And wow, they've brought a great deal of life to ONE picture of Punk and a young MJF. They've had one match in Chicago so far. It was a good time, MJF cheated like hell and won. But now? Now? NOW, these mfers are about to FIGHT. And it is going to get UGLY. And rightfully the fuck so.

I'm amped for this, I'm not even thinking about trying to book it for them. I trust them to do whatever they're planning here. And again, I'm pleased as can be that we have Punk back doing this level of work with younger talent. It really is great.

>Reigns has the rona but hopefully he’s fine.
>
>Brock is enjoying himself and is now the Raw champ. Lashley vs
>Lesnar is gonna happen and it’s gonna be GREAT as long as
>Brock plays ball.
>
>Toni Storm flew home and quit WWE and the internet doesn’t
>know why yet. We shall see/I hope she’s okay. She’s 26.
>
>Charlotte and Becky are holding belts still. So is Britt
>Baker.
>
>I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept
>that he can’t help himself with certain things and people. I
>know to take his anger over that stuff/those people with a
>grain of salt so I can enjoy the rest of his stuff.
>
>We still have Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and
>others back from retirement mostly doing good stuff.
>
>Random indy stuff is going down. ROH is gone-ish.
>
>Wrestle Kingdom is coming too. Shibata and Will are back!?
>Nice.
>
>NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out
>their kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids
>come out of it better off eventually. The tv exposure is a
>double-edged sword methinks in the complain festival
>environment.
>
>Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re
>too self-aware to not have a plan of some kind with this. We
>shall see. And what are they going to do with all of these
>doggone still free agents!?
>
>Last thing for now before we head towards BD vs Hangman this
>week, good tag team rasslin is happening on both AEW and WWE.
>

  

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291. "Also, they shifted the focus off of Wardlow"
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The MJF-Wardlow feud setup was getting to be more interesting. They found a way to keep that on the burner while dialing up the MJF-Punk feud to 11 (I thought it started at 11, but in retrospect that was more of a 7 or 8).

  

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296. "my only problem is...i still want MJF to win"
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a kick in the nuts and a couple shots with the ring isnt enough to swing me back, and that was my main quibble with this direction. its great, but ive judged the bad guy's gripe to be legitimate lol.

its gonna take a long time for me to dislike him again. hes gonna have to retire Sting or something. turning on Sting was the only thing that Flair could ever do to keep his heat with me, maybe it could still be the tipping point.

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297. "feel same as you but only because I'm dumfounded by the greatness"
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I really can't remember a program this well-organized and inspired in ages

  

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298. "was Rusev getting cucked by Lashley that long ago???"
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>I really can't remember a program this well-organized and
>inspired in ages

  

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300. "I'd go back further to the gilded age of "Who is Hornswoggle's father?""
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301. "2 for 2"
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I'm laughing on both of these.

I'm catching hell coming up with one that deserves to be mentioned along with these, but I'm still thinking for sure.

  

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302. "Gene Snitksy: Punter of Babies"
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Are we just limiting these to WWE?

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Doesn't get much better than Triple H as Kane fucking a corpse.

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304. "RE: Gene Snitksy: Punter of Babies"
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>Are we just limiting these to WWE?

If we allow WCW and TNA, we'll be here until next year. But to hell with it...why restrict!?

I can't even remember when the 'what is in Erick Rowan's cage' story was. It could've been 2020 or 2017 for all I know.

I was thinking of starting a new post sometime before Revolution.

  

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299. "RE: my only problem is...i still want MJF to win"
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>a kick in the nuts and a couple shots with the ring isnt
>enough to swing me back, and that was my main quibble with
>this direction. its great, but ive judged the bad guy's gripe
>to be legitimate lol.
>
>its gonna take a long time for me to dislike him again. hes
>gonna have to retire Sting or something. turning on Sting was
>the only thing that Flair could ever do to keep his heat with
>me, maybe it could still be the tipping point.
>
>

A thing I loved about Flair is that him losing almost never bothered me during his main 80s run.

MJF is made here almost no matter what happens Sunday. His matches are rare and usually killer. This feud with Punk has been special to the degree that it basically validates AEW's existence by itself. And he's still got an amazingly well-earned beatdown coming from Wardlow that will be great for both him and the big man.

  

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305. "This Vince interview with Pat"
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Is a really good and useful time. Vince sounded great. This felt like an important piece of internettery in a world where we’re all taking in a bunch of trash content from people who are selling anger, sadness, confusion, and negativity in general.

https://youtu.be/ThKeeYthpyk


>Reigns has the rona but hopefully he’s fine.
>
>Brock is enjoying himself and is now the Raw champ. Lashley vs
>Lesnar is gonna happen and it’s gonna be GREAT as long as
>Brock plays ball.
>
>Toni Storm flew home and quit WWE and the internet doesn’t
>know why yet. We shall see/I hope she’s okay. She’s 26.
>
>Charlotte and Becky are holding belts still. So is Britt
>Baker.
>
>I apologize to Corny..I enjoy most of his stuff now. I accept
>that he can’t help himself with certain things and people. I
>know to take his anger over that stuff/those people with a
>grain of salt so I can enjoy the rest of his stuff.
>
>We still have Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and
>others back from retirement mostly doing good stuff.
>
>Random indy stuff is going down. ROH is gone-ish.
>
>Wrestle Kingdom is coming too. Shibata and Will are back!?
>Nice.
>
>NXT Black and Gold is dead. The next generation is working out
>their kinks while most of us roll our eyes. Hopefully the kids
>come out of it better off eventually. The tv exposure is a
>double-edged sword methinks in the complain festival
>environment.
>
>Speaking of that, what is AEW gonna do with Cody? They’re
>too self-aware to not have a plan of some kind with this. We
>shall see. And what are they going to do with all of these
>doggone still free agents!?
>
>Last thing for now before we head towards BD vs Hangman this
>week, good tag team rasslin is happening on both AEW and WWE.
>

  

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