6. "RE: he's not terrible at all" In response to Reply # 5
Please watch the games, then comment.
It's shocking actually. I am saying this as a fan.
He has thrown 12 interceptions since week 6. He had a brutal game against the Browns
It is bad quarterbacking. Swear to you I am not making this up and have no agenda against Jackson. He is holding the ball, making terrible reads, inaccurate, literally running into sacks. Hesitant to throw deep, cant hit the hot reads when they blitz and so teams blitz more. Even his release looks shaky.
7. "It’s really inarguable, right now…." In response to Reply # 6
he even admitted, last week, that he was terrible reads/throws. They highlighted several plays from today’s game where he had a man open, by virtue of the play design, yet made a bad throw to a different receiver. And the 2 point conversion failure was on him. I don’t think he is terrible, but he’s playing terrible, right now.
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9. "i watch the games man" In response to Reply # 6
I think I mostly misread your intention. i have spent many days arguing with people who shit on Lamar as a QB so i went into defense mode.
yeah, he's been bad recently. it's also extremely tough to be a great QB in the NFL when you have an extremely shitty run game. ill cop pleas for him due to the injuries and the terrible O-line he has.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 10:01 AM
19. "no shade but when has LJ had good mechanics? " In response to Reply # 10
He’s always had the side arm throw.
IMO the biggest issue is simply not throwing the ball to the right guy under pressure.
Dude has stopped throwing the deep ball to Brown.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 10:39 AM
22. "or it could be because his OL was better" In response to Reply # 21
dude is back there running for his life half the time.
I will say he is holding the ball too long on a few plays but that rush is on his ass.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 11:30 AM
26. "teams are blitzing AND jumping the hot route" In response to Reply # 24
they are baiting the shit out of him this year.
but the main reason he is struggling is because this Ravens team is being held together with wood glue and scotch tape after all those injuries.
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38. "RE: its not deeper than this" In response to Reply # 28
> >>but the main reason he is struggling is because this Ravens >>team is being held together with wood glue and scotch tape >>after all those injuries. > >mfers want to claim Lamar has fallen off when he's handing the >ball of to Davonta Freeman running behind Villanueva. > >dudes an MVP. nobody wins in the NFL when your line and RBs >get completely decimated and he is keeping them in games. >
Flat out disagree. He is playing very poorly. I have no axe to grind here at all, I like dude and I like Baltimore…but he is making bad throws, bad reads, bad pocket presence.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 10:03 AM
20. "He isn’t playing well lately" In response to Reply # 14
but dude acting like they are 4-8 and not 8-4
LJ isn’t having a good year but he has been playing ridiculous football the first 3 years.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 11:32 AM
27. "you said he is terrible now.. " In response to Reply # 25
a bit of a hot take but makes for good discussion.
don’t trip like you didnt want this energy.
I confirmed that he isn’t playing well lately but he isn’t terrible.. just not making plays we used to see him make last year.
Thing is.. even with his erratic play they are usually in position to win at the end of the 4th quarter and its usually because Lamar turns it on.
I’m glad they lost tho.. lol.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 09:57 AM
18. "he had Covid and the other non covid illness.. " In response to Reply # 0
and his worst games are against division rivals.
I don’t buy that he doesn’t have other weapons besides the TE. Dude is just not seeing the field and he is waiting too long to take off and run.
also.. the more he plays the more teams will figure out his weaknesses and tendencies.
All that being said.. its really not that surprising he looks like shit against division rivals who play him twice a year.
Steelers have always given LJ fits too..
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29. "He has always been overrated. " In response to Reply # 0 Mon Dec-06-21 11:56 AM by allStah
He has a talented receiving corp now in Hollywood, Bateman, Watkins, and Andrews, and he still can’t put it on the numbers or make those back shoulder/corner route throws. If it is not a straight up the middle or some dip and dunk throw, he doesn’t have the ability to execute the play.
And he has a low football IQ. Put Watson on that team and they would be clicking on all cylinders.
That’s just the truth.
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33. "Not once did I say elite, learn to read before you snark." In response to Reply # 32
I said he has a talented receiving corp. That receiving group has plenty of talent to excel. He just makes bullshit ass throws, like side and curve ball throws on simple plays. He can’t make a pinpoint corner route throw while under pressure to save his life.
Wanting to be a passer or claiming to be a passer is one thing, reality is another. This is a guy who went 17 straight games throwing for 250 yards or less, and his numbers are trending downward.
He is a great athlete, and a good guy, but he is an average passer at best, and even his running is regressing...and will continue to regress as the hits wear down his body.
Since he is not a pure pocket passer, once his running and athleticism fades, and if he doesn’t learn how to adapt somehow, he will continue to decline as a QB.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 01:21 PM
35. "what was the Raven’s record during those 17 games w/ 250 yards or less..." In response to Reply # 33
11-6 during that stretch.
everyone knows he isn’t a pure pocket passer.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 01:14 PM
34. "Watson is a beast.. but you talk like Watson has playoff success" In response to Reply # 29
and wasn’t out here celebrating first downs when down by 21 in a playoff loss
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon Dec-06-21 01:36 PM
37. "Better passer? sure" In response to Reply # 36
better overall athlete?
Not so sure.
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39. "Reading these replies..." In response to Reply # 0
…cant help but feel that no one wants to downtalk a young black quarterback who made so many (white) doubters eat their words when he got to the league.
I can understand it. I would rather be shouting his praises.
But it's gonna get pretty ridiculous if we are all sitting here denying what is happening in front of our eyes.
Doing that with Cam Newton in recent yearsdidn't suddenly make him good again, it just made people look dumb.
Lamar has been playing really poorly. The team has it's holes but the idea that he is being sabotaged by a bunch of bums is just false.
Lamar Jackson is both the Ravens best player and their biggest problem right now (Marlon Humphrey getting hurt this game is maybe up there now)
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Tue Dec-07-21 09:45 AM
40. "it hasn’t been years.. its been a few games" In response to Reply # 39
if it keeps getting worse and he looks bad next year then yes.. that discussion can be had but not right now.
People are always quick to shit on a Black QB after a few bad games.
Didn’t Lamar break the record for completion percentage (85%) while throwing for over 400 yards in a game this season?
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41. "but but but he throws sidearm sometimes" In response to Reply # 40
>if it keeps getting worse and he looks bad next year then >yes.. that discussion can be had but not right now. > >People are always quick to shit on a Black QB after a few bad >games. > >Didn’t Lamar break the record for completion percentage >(85%) while throwing for over 400 yards in a game this season? >
And you are correct, he did break the record. how are you supposed to do this if you are terrible inaccurate??
"Jackson's completion rate (86%) was the highest of any quarterback in NFL history who's attempted over 40 passes in a game, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.Oct 12, 2021"
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Tue Dec-07-21 12:29 PM
44. "Ravens on IR: 22. Starts missed due to injury: 81 " In response to Reply # 43
and somehow these muth#######ers are still 8-4.
but Lamar sucks now?
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Tiger Woods Member since Feb 15th 2004 18387 posts
Mon Jan-16-23 06:13 PM
50. "Football dudes underrate their situation often" In response to Reply # 0
But football dudes can’t behave like basketball dudes. It isn’t ALWAYS about the bag. When you’re being beat up like that, when you’ve got coaches who care about you, a line that blocks for you, a city that adores you…it isn’t just “get paid”
So now Deshaun’s got Lamar fucked up. Because he’s gonna force his way to a dogshit situation, since compared to Baltimore almost every team in the league is a dogshit situation, and for what? When is rich rich enough? In Baltimore he would have always been behind a good O-line , competing for playoff spots, in prime time games. You want a little more money to go to Carolina or Tennessee? Go ahead dude. You’ll be hurt even more often, go through 2 or so more coaches before you retire, and play for wavering fan bases.
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