now that is a swing for the fences i didnt expect out of USC
https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1465059429984866305

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He knows Oklahoma isn’t winning the Super SEC. He can go to SC and dominate the Pac 12 with them like he did the Big 12 with Oklahoma. If he goes undefeated or 11-1 in the Pac 12 he will get a playoff spot every year like he did at Oklahoma.

Oklahoma is one of the best jobs when it's the Big 12 and you just have to outduel the latest Texas savior and Mike Gundy

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He wants to win and be a big fish in a little pond.

He’s getting way better job security in a way better city, but all over Twitter I see “he’s scared of the SEC!”

Yeah, if you offered me two non-football jobs, same pay, one is in LA, and one is in Norman (or Baton Rouge) with way less job security, not a soul on Earth would be saying “you can’t handle Norman! you’re scared of proving yourself in a place you’re more likely to be fired in the next 4 years!” lol

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happens a lot with players. People put unrealistic expectations on someone else’s career choices, that they wouldn’t put on their own. He or my favorites is “he took the easy route”. Like, if they had a choice between two companies and one was much better and offered a much better path to personal success, they’d choose the worse one.

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>Like, if they had a choice between
>two companies

obviously there are a million factors that go into a decision like this

closely enough to know that. The two companies thing was for my example of a player going to a better team and people saying he took the “easy route” to winning. I realize after rereading, that wasn’t clear, at all. My bad.

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He wants to win and it will be much hard to win when Oklahoma joins the SEC.

I’ve seen some people refer to Oklahomas as becoming the Tennessee of the SEC West (sorry Will) and they probably aren’t wrong.

Take the pay raise, lesser competition and living in a better city all day Riley.

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did not expect that at all

Did not see that coming at all.

If Cal doesn’t beat SC this weekend then we aren’t winning for another decade.

fucking hilarious to even think about hiring a coach in your same conference that is about to be fired

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His ceiling is P5 DC or G5 HC.

UW would be replacing Lake with the white version of Lake, just without the hitting players baggage.

UW would be doing Cal a major favor if they hired Wilcox as we wouldn’t have to buy his bum ass out.

they should have hired Nieumatololo when they hired Wilcox, and now theres a younger option in Jeff Monken

what Paul Johnson did at GT would have gotten him a statue at Cal, and he wouldnt have had to beat Richt/Beamer/Dabo/Jimbo to do it.

hire a disciple and enjoy some fun times. bowl games, conference title games, playoff hopes in november...i have seen the promised land for an academically snobby P5 school with admissions headaches, and its only a midline veer option away!

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this is a home run for USC

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He has an other-worldly QB coming back next year and he still dips. He knew he was under achieving and now has a new set of years for excuses.

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quality of life than trying to battle Saban and all the SEC war chests.

>He has an other-worldly QB coming back next year and he still
>dips. He knew he was under achieving and now has a new set of
>years for excuses.

he will always get quarterbacks, especially since California is his backyard now.

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On moving to the SEC. Oklahoma is a great program in the Big 12, in the SEC they will be a good program that will win 7-9 games and occasionally 10.

Riley wants an easier path to the CFP playoffs, SC gives him that.

If he turns SC around, Pac 12 goes to 8 conference games, and Oregon stays good then the Pac 12 national relevance rises and he gets an easier path to the CFP.

This is a win for SC and the Pac12.

Only in football does someone choose an eight-figure pay day in LA and get a response of disbelief, lol.

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Though you're acting like the man wasnt already a multi-millionaire....despite not actually winning anything. With the coming move to the SEC his track record of under-achieving would have been exposed even more. Now he gets more money and an easier conference. The money doesnt cancel out the ducking.

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I'm not even saying dude will crush in the Pac-12, he could completely flop. Could happen to anyone. I'm just baffled that people equate taking a better job with more money and a better city to live in with some semblance of cowardice, lol.

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SC is probably the better gig financially but dude wants no part of the SEC and I don’t blame him.

but you are also talking like USC will be top dog with Riley. We have seen more than a few coaches move on and fail.

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>SC is probably the better gig financially but dude wants no
>part of the SEC and I don’t blame him.

It's not just a better gig financially-- it also puts him in a better position to succeed, and it puts him and his family in a far superior city (no offense to Norman, it just doesn't compare to LA).

Why would *anyone* want a part of the SEC with that competing job offer on the table? Only three of the 14 coaches there have been there for over half a decade-- only two have been there more than 6 years. Turning down the USC job just because you "want a part of the SEC" would be a huge gamble.

>but you are also talking like USC will be top dog with Riley.
>We have seen more than a few coaches move on and fail.

I don't know that they'll be top dog. All I know is there's a considerably clearer path to success and glory. And more money. And a better city. And an easier path to winning recruits. I mean, there's just so much USC has going for it vs. the Oklahoma or LSU jobs.

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it's 2025.


Not sure how this is ducking the SEC.

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what an upgrade

the insanity

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I would say him and the current Oklahoma OC are probably the top candidates.

so I guess not

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The chances of success at Arizona and the NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>Oklahoma in the SEC.

Oklahoma in the SEC might just regress to Nebraska in the Big 10 but hey, at least Oklahoma will be paid well.

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Oklahoma in the SEC is going to be ugly

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but the NFL is a churn

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Even if you’re lucky enough to recruit a high caliber HS QB, then actually develop him and he lives up to his potential, he is gone after 3 seasons and you start right over again.

At least with Murray he could have his franchise QB locked up for the next decade and win and still get paid.

In CFB, you’re one QB bust away from getting fired.

at this point...

>at this point...

But if you lose 3 games in a season and/or a couple of your 100 players slaps anyone at the club or something, alumni and boosters will cry in corners (and Twitter and meathead message boards) until your name is mud and/or you’re fired.

Kevin Sumlin for instance.

If you keep your emails tight and don’t hitch your wagon to a total bust qb, you can be around in the nfl for a while.

Kliff has a qb he loves, a NFL division he can compete in, and he’s viewed as an offensive mind during a time where that’s damn near all people care about cuz fantasy sports and gambling (Bellichek is winning again meanwhile). And he’s not counting on voters who don’t watch games and computers to put him in the playoffs if he loses 1-2 games in a season. Oh, and he’s not dealing with the same level of player turnover. Aka the nfl gigs can and generally are more stable. If shit goes bad in the NFL, THEN you go hide as a guest star OC or in a midmajor somewhere to rehab yourself.

the NFL vs. college. Especially given some of these new contracts like MSU and Penn State just signed their coaches too, with long term guaranteed money.

>the NFL vs. college. Especially given some of these new
>contracts like MSU and Penn State just signed their coaches
>too, with long term guaranteed money.

Yeah, it’s a wild situation. Kliff hated the politicking of college and digs the pros cuz it’s mostly football and managing relationships with the players.

and he hasn't even won the SEC West

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GT guaranteed Geoff Collins SEVEN YEAR contract in full if he doesnt make it through year 4

record after 3 years? 9-27

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He hated recruiting (and wasn't good at it). He hated dealing with boosters. He just wanted to coach.
Why would he go back to that when he's had NFL success.

https://www.espn.com/blog/arizona-cardinals/post/_/id/31729/can-cardinals-coach-kliff-kingsbury-find-college-to-pro-success


Jumping from college to the NFL also relieves Kingsbury of one of the fundamental aspects of being a college coach: recruiting. That, in addition to not having any of the peripheral responsibilities that accompany representing a school’s football team, such as fundraising and meeting donors, has opened up Kingsbury’s schedule so he can just focus on football.

"That's a huge plus for me,” Kingsbury said. "I enjoyed all aspects of being a head coach in college, but the recruiting, that’s the lifeblood of any program. That should be your focus. That may not have been my focus at times as much as it should’ve been because I wanted to coach the quarterbacks and be in the X's and O's and study other offenses.

"Now I get to do that and make that first and foremost, and it’s been good."

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recruiting is such a grind, especially now with the early signing period. you can have a staff of NFL coaches, but if they don't want to recruit, you aren't going to have elite success.

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and they are HURT, lol. Whoo! Now, Lincoln ain't shit, wasn't that good, set the University back years, did this on purpose cuz he was mad they didn't ask him before moving to the SEC, etc.

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a HC hasn't voluntarily left OU in their lifetime

"good riddance" is a mask for the pain

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>a HC hasn't voluntarily left OU in their lifetime
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>"good riddance" is a mask for the pain

Right!

Look, when people started sitting back and letting coaches get canned over 3-4 loss seasons, this set off a chain reaction to where coaches and their staffs are trying to get out before they get put out. And really, no towny big school coach wants more attention. Being in a city that revolves around your college team is enough bullshit in of itself. You don’t want to be on tv more and/or having your own conference being a gauntlet like the SEC is.

All of that is hurting the LSU job. Also, people are making the job worse with the way the expectations don’t match the pedigree. I had to tell some of my boys with sternness to quit thinking that a big shit head coach who already has a good job would leave their spot to come fuck with LSU. Why!? Who wants to bother with Saban, a growing parade of big money schools taking recruits out of your state, scandals that get out cuz your front office isn’t doing enough ‘erasing’, and fans that think another Joe Burrow unbelievable season should just happen every 2-3 years?

The last coach they had from Ohio turned out to be pretty good


>now that is a swing for the fences i didnt expect out of USC
>https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1465059429984866305

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

and he has an easy path to the playoffs in the big 12

that "Big 12" could see undefeated teams looking up at one loss teams that didnt win their major conference

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build an elite program at a P5 conference and you should be able to get into the playoffs

no tradition, no academics, no cities, no geographic footprint to call their own (no one cares about the university of south carolina)

i can see 13-0 Oklahoma St mailing in a Fiesta Bowl vs 9-3 Iowa clear as day

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if he gets the chop

isnt LSU paying orgeron like 10 mill to go away lol

>and he has an easy path to the playoffs in the big 12

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

>if he gets the chop
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>isnt LSU paying orgeron like 10 mill to go away lol
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>>and he has an easy path to the playoffs in the big 12
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https://www.wafb.com/2021/10/19/breaking-down-details-behind-separation-agreement-between-lsu-coach-o/

I had to go look. It is more than that! The 'one public appearance for LSU a year' has to have a void clause I figure, right? Hell, I have no idea if O wants to coach anywhere else. His overall win-loss at LSU should be good enough if he can swear that he's got his personal stuff cleared up (IE: divorce final, he'll keep the groupies away from practice, he has any abuse issues under control, and he won't leave the gate open for foolishness from his players). Hell, he might not even need to do all of that to get a middle of the road gig.

i'm enjoying the Oklahoma folk losing their guy to a school in LA. if he crashes and burns here, that'll be a nice bonus

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they don’t say where they’re going, they’re just “entering the portal” lol

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wow he doesnt seem like an LSU guy at all
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Maybe Kelly's tired of academic recruiting restrictions. Or maybe there's just an absolute monster of a contract coming, lol.

But yeah, leaving Notre Dame... I didn't see that coming. It'd be like, I don't know, someone leaving Indiana basketball to coach at, like, Florida. (Not a perfect comparison, but it's just weird to think of a Notre Dame coach leaving for another team!)

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now he can walk into a dice game behind waffle house to snag some players

the recruiting process at ND seems more about elimination than acquisition, and the ones that REALLY want to go there prep for the Calculus requirement ahead of time on their own

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>Maybe Kelly's tired of academic recruiting restrictions.

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so ya this is his chance