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Boogie Stimuli
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"Bud Crawford vs Shawn Porter |11.20 | ESPN+ PPV"


          

Gonna be one helluva fight.

They've been playing "keep away" from Crawford over at the PBC, refusing to "cross the street" to fight him. Porter finally steps up and says he'll challenge since no one else will. All the while, people have ridiculed Crawford for not being able to land an elite fight at welterweight. Sure, he's been a champ in 2 other divisions (undisputed in one), but somehow he's been criticized for his record by some.

Although he won a title in his very first fight at welter by stoppage and stopped every opponent he's faced there since, he sees this as his chance to finally show the naysayers who he is at welterweight.

Porter always comes up short in champpionship fights, except once when he got a very close decision against Danny Garcia. He's been at welterweight his entire career and sees this as do or die. He's put "WAR" on his jacket in homage to the late GREAT Marvin Hagler who did the same prior to his classic fight with Tommy Hearns.

Who's going to seize their opportunity tonight? Who will achieve what they've come to achieve? Will there be an upset? Will Bud be the first to stop Porter?

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Did what ya boy Errol couldn't
Nov 21st 2021
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Kenny Porter seems like a dickhead
Nov 21st 2021
2
Definitely didn't have to say what he said about preparation
Nov 21st 2021
3
100% agree
Nov 21st 2021
4
a lot of the shit Adrien Broner was talking
Nov 22nd 2021
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      The irony there is that Broner wlda benefitted from a father
Nov 23rd 2021
10
It went about how I thought it would
Nov 21st 2021
5
He said he's not re-signing at the post-fight presser
Nov 21st 2021
6
      Good move on his part
Nov 21st 2021
7
           RE: Good move on his part
Nov 21st 2021
8
Shawn Porter addresses the stoppage on his podcast (link)
Nov 24th 2021
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Boogie Stimuli
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1. "Did what ya boy Errol couldn't"
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AND STILL!

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2. "Kenny Porter seems like a dickhead "
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>Gonna be one helluva fight.
>
>They've been playing "keep away" from Crawford over at the
>PBC, refusing to "cross the street" to fight him. Porter
>finally steps up and says he'll challenge since no one else
>will. All the while, people have ridiculed Crawford for not
>being able to land an elite fight at welterweight. Sure, he's
>been a champ in 2 other divisions (undisputed in one), but
>somehow he's been criticized for his record by some.
>
>Although he won a title in his very first fight at welter by
>stoppage and stopped every opponent he's faced there since, he
>sees this as his chance to finally show the naysayers who he
>is at welterweight.
>
>Porter always comes up short in champpionship fights, except
>once when he got a very close decision against Danny Garcia.
>He's been at welterweight his entire career and sees this as
>do or die. He's put "WAR" on his jacket in homage to the late
>GREAT Marvin Hagler who did the same prior to his classic
>fight with Tommy Hearns.
>
>Who's going to seize their opportunity tonight? Who will
>achieve what they've come to achieve? Will there be an upset?
>Will Bud be the first to stop Porter?
>
>

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Boogie Stimuli
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3. "Definitely didn't have to say what he said about preparation"
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in the post-fight interview.
I guess I understand him not wanting to see his son get stopped or badly hurt, but it really sucks for Shawn because he came out there with "WAR" on his robe in homage to the great Marvelous Hagler in his classic war with Tommy Hearns. Then his dad stops the fight at the first sign of real trouble, completely opposite of what Shawn was proclaiming. You could see how crushed he was that his pops threw in the towel too. I felt bad for Shawn. Then essentially said he was punishing him on the world stage for not listening to him in training. I don't think that was cool at all.

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4. "100% agree"
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There were so many different ways to address that question

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9. "a lot of the shit Adrien Broner was talking"
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leading up to his match with Porter is ringing true.

> “I’m fighting Shawn Porter, a football player, and I’m fighting his
> dad,” Broner barked. “It’s like I’m fighting his dad ’cause the check
> comes in his dad’s name and then he pays Shawn. He makes Shawn sign
> the check and then he goes and deposits it into a joint account. He’s
> spending Shawn’s money, that’s why he’s got better cars, he’s got the
> big-boy Jeep, you gotta hop out of it to get out of it. He’s got the
> Corvette with the Lamborghini doors. While, Shawn, he’s either catching
> an Uber or he’s hopping out of his 2011 CTS, the little coupe.
> … They’re both getting a check, if I kick both of their asses do I
> get paid twice?”

i've heard other fighters making fun of him cuz he shows up to every single event, even some nightclub type shit, with his dad. but it definitely goes deeper than that. i hope Shawn Porter has control of his money

  

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10. "The irony there is that Broner wlda benefitted from a father"
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like Kenny in his life. Kenny goes too far sometimes (like this time, for example) but I'd definitely take Shawn's use of potential in life over Broner's. We can judge from the outside, but Shawn loves and appreciates his dad, and I honestly think it's a beautiful thing overall even if I personally feel he failed to respect Shawn's manhood here.

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snacks
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5. "It went about how I thought it would"
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I gave the first two rounds to Porter, mostly off of activity. Although Crawford was tentative, he was never rattled. I scored round 3 10-10; I just couldn't decisively give it to anyone, and I didn't want to pick a fighter just to be picking them

I gave round 4 to Crawford because I felt like he did more solid work to the body, and his counters looked aesthetically better. Round 5 … Porter won off of activity and aggression. Crawford seemed largely unaffected. He's even relished in the contact. This is when I knew it would get bad for Porter down the road

The rest was a sweep to me. Even when Porter seemed like he was landing or was gonna pick up steam, Crawford just seemed in control. It seemed like it was easy to him. He would turn Porter when he was in the corner and needed to, countered on a lot of occasions, and was just the better man

MUCH respect to Porter. Hell of a career and a class act. He's the only WW in this era that can say he fought everyone there is to fight

Apparently this was Crawford's last fight on his current Top Rank contract. He would be a fool to re-sign. All they have for him is Josh Taylor at this point

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6. "He said he's not re-signing at the post-fight presser"
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>Apparently this was Crawford's last fight on his current Top
>Rank contract. He would be a fool to re-sign.


Sitting directly next to Bob Arum, he said...
"I'm pretty sure my decision was made already. Bob couldn't secure me the Spence fight while I was with him, so how he gon secure me the Spence fight when I'm not with him? I'm moving forward with my career right now, and I wish everybody the best."

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7. "Good move on his part"
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If he were to sign to PBC, hopefully they can secure him some better fights (besides the obvious). I doubt Thurman or Garcia will fight him, and Pacquiao is done. Ugas has like two mandatories to satisfy

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8. "RE: Good move on his part"
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>If he were to sign to PBC, hopefully they can secure him some
>better fights (besides the obvious).


I think he's better off staying a free agent and doing deals on a fight by fight basis, since he's really about legacy and fighting for titles wherever they are. PBC guys are heavily encouraged not to cross platforms, which I don't think will suit Bud.


>I doubt Thurman or Garcia
>will fight him, and Pacquiao is done. Ugas has like two
>mandatories to satisfy

Yeah. Garcia is talking about moving to 154, out here saying he feels he's better than everybody at 154 LOL. An active Thurman would give Bud a good fight. Ugas beat Crawford in the amateurs, so that would be some good getback.

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11. "Shawn Porter addresses the stoppage on his podcast (link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oIy14bPV8g#t=45m40s

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