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ThaTruth
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"NBA 75:"


          

https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-75-team-list-players-75th-anniversary-season/6jov1u8vfe861lgnpqf55ct3f

NBA 75 team: Full list of players revealed as league celebrates 75th anniversary season

As part of its 75th anniversary celebration, the league will be releasing a list featuring the 75 greatest players in NBA history during the first week of the 2021-22 season. A similar list was compiled ahead of the 1996-97 season to honor the 50 greatest players of all time, but given the amount of talent that has come through the league since then, it's possible a few players from the original top 50 will lose their spots.

NBA 75 team: Full list of players revealed
(Note: These are not rankings.)

1. Hal Greer

2. Dirk Nowitzki

3. Bob Pettit

4. Oscar Robertson

5. Bill Russell

6. Giannis Antetokounmpo

7. Kevin Durant

8. Elvin Hayes

9. Jerry Lucas

10. Willis Reed

11. Nate Archibald

12. Bob Cousy

13. Dave Cowens

14. James Harden

15. Hakeem Olajuwon

16. Kevin McHale

17. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

18. George Mikan

19. John Stockton

20. Steve Nash

21. Charles Barkley

22. Julius Erving

23. George Gervin

24. Moses Malone

25. David Robinson

26. Magic Johnson

27. James Worthy

28. Wilt Chamberlain

29. Jerry West

30. Larry Bird

31. Michael Jordan

32. Scottie Pippen

33. Isiah Thomas

34. Clyde Drexler

35. Karl Malone

36. Patrick Ewing

37. Chris Paul

38. Allen Iverson

39. Tim Duncan

40. Kevin Garnett

41. John Havlicek

42. Sam Jones

43. Robert Parish

44. Bill Sharman

45. Bill Walton

46. Walt Frazier

47. Paul Arizin

48. Rick Barry

49. Nate Thurmond

50. Wes Unseld

51. Elgin Baylor

52. Dave Bing

53. Billy Cunningham

54. Dave DeBusschere

55. Pete Maravich

56. Earl Monroe

57. Shaquille O'Neal

58. Dolph Schayes

59. Lenny Wilkens

60. Dominique Wilkens

61. Dennis Rodman

62. Ray Allen

63. Dwyane Wade

64. Jason Kidd

65. Kobe Bryant

66. Gary Payton

67. Bob McAdoo

68. Paul Pierce

69. Stephen Curry

70. Reggie Miller

71. Kawhi Leonard

72. Damian Lillard

73. LeBron James

74. Carmelo Anthony

75. Anthony Davis

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man I didn’t even think Lilllard and AD would have a chance
Oct 21st 2021
1
man, I kinda feel bad about how history might remember Dwight...
Oct 21st 2021
3
      This is some bs not to include him.
Oct 22nd 2021
14
Melo and Bing: we got two!
Oct 21st 2021
2
Damien Lillard over Tracey Mcgrady and Kyrie Irving?
Oct 21st 2021
4
Dame got better numbers than Ky, and he plays more
Oct 21st 2021
5
Kyrie came into the league a year before Dame.
Oct 21st 2021
7
      and has played 100 less games hence...
Oct 21st 2021
8
there isn't a GM on this planet dead or alive
Oct 22nd 2021
37
      50-40-90
Oct 22nd 2021
39
NO Adrian Dantley??
Oct 21st 2021
6
Shaq: LeBron En Route to Becoming The Best Ever
Oct 21st 2021
9
Shaq says a lot of dumb shit
Oct 22nd 2021
38
      honest question:
Oct 23rd 2021
47
Glad bum ass draymond didn’t make this list .
Oct 22nd 2021
10
You could make a second top 75
Oct 22nd 2021
15
I was arguing with someone about Klay last night, they wanted to put him...
Oct 22nd 2021
17
I like Damian Lillard but......come on.
Oct 22nd 2021
11
1 first team, a couple seconds and some all star games. That’s his res...
Oct 22nd 2021
12
      Im ashamed of myself for forgetting Ben Wallace.
Oct 22nd 2021
13
Guys, don't get over-invested in this. You have better things to do.
Oct 22nd 2021
16
This bum ass list has James Harden over...
Oct 22nd 2021
18
The list isn't in ranked order.
Oct 22nd 2021
19
      dude thought they named Hal Greer as the best player ever.
Oct 22nd 2021
26
           😂
Oct 22nd 2021
27
           lmao. and i grew up a sixers fan and, come on.
Oct 22nd 2021
30
Even i fell victim to forgetting Dwight Howard because of his corniness
Oct 22nd 2021
20
He did himself no favors but he obviously is a snub
Oct 22nd 2021
23
John Stockton was not better than Joe Dumars, among other things
Oct 22nd 2021
21
Argument could be made for Vince Carter as well.
Oct 22nd 2021
22
No Dwight Howard is a TOTAL joke.
Oct 22nd 2021
24
Probably my biggest takeaway.
Oct 22nd 2021
25
The resume is legitimately insane.
Oct 22nd 2021
28
Reggie Miller shouldn’t be in
Oct 22nd 2021
29
I guess if you use the 'can only tell the history of the league with him...
Oct 22nd 2021
31
      That's an interesting argument. Reggie was certainly significant.
Oct 23rd 2021
43
The list is mostly solid
Oct 22nd 2021
32
outside of Lebron, Steph & KD I feel like most of the active players...
Oct 22nd 2021
33
There's truly only an argument against AD, Dame, and Russ
Oct 22nd 2021
35
      Naw AD deserves to be on there
Oct 22nd 2021
36
Guys with FMVPs are hard to leave off
Oct 22nd 2021
34
      You listing Kahwi's accolades shifted my take on him
Oct 22nd 2021
41
      James got 3 rings, not 5
Oct 23rd 2021
42
           You're right
Oct 23rd 2021
51
      DUMARS
Oct 24th 2021
52
      Iggy, Maxwell, truth be told Kawhi was more a role player for his 1st
Oct 24th 2021
55
      Dennis Johnson won FMVP, 3 rings, 5x AllStar, 2x All-NBA, 9x All-Defense
Oct 26th 2021
60
So what team is Lebron going to go to next year?
Oct 22nd 2021
40
Vince and Tracey got snubbed!
Oct 23rd 2021
44
Klay ain’t being bashful about it…
Oct 23rd 2021
45
I really thing he is doing too much but if that helps his recovery...
Oct 23rd 2021
46
Ionno, man…I can see where he’s coming from…
Oct 23rd 2021
48
      he's a sidekick, never been "the man" on his own team, it is what it is.
Oct 23rd 2021
50
           RE: he's a sidekick - that in itself is too reductive
Oct 24th 2021
59
fuck him
Oct 24th 2021
53
      facts...
Oct 24th 2021
54
      Damn, bro...I ain't know you had the K with you...geez
Oct 24th 2021
56
      lmao i have very strong feelings on this particular issue
Oct 24th 2021
57
      I respect this take. and fuck Draymond too while we're at it.
Oct 24th 2021
58
apparently THIS is the correct list...:
Oct 23rd 2021
49

BrooklynWHAT
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1. "man I didn’t even think Lilllard and AD would have a chance"
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And I just assumed Dwight would be in it. I know he’s had a goof last couple years but that doesn’t undo 5x All first team and 4x dpoy

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3. "man, I kinda feel bad about how history might remember Dwight..."
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he was a fucking DESTROYER before the back injuries.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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14. "This is some bs not to include him."
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Some of these selections seem heavily recency biased.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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DJR
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2. "Melo and Bing: we got two!"
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4. "Damien Lillard over Tracey Mcgrady and Kyrie Irving? "
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Dame has zero trophies or scoring titles.

Kyrie: 50-40-90 club, nba champion, 7 time allStar

Mcgrady: 2 time scoring champ, 7-time allStar.


God damn, and I’m not even a Kyrie fan( fock Duke)!

HIS NAME IS MASON MOUNT
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DJR
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5. "Dame got better numbers than Ky, and he plays more"
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*shrug

  

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7. "Kyrie came into the league a year before Dame."
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He has the greatest dribbling skills in nba history.
He is also the better finisher and shooter.

He Has the better 3pt fg pct, and he is a 50-40-90 guy.

Y’all let those logo threes go to your head.

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DJR
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8. "and has played 100 less games hence..."
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my point that he “plays less” .

Get on the court more and he’d probably be on there.

  

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37. "there isn't a GM on this planet dead or alive"
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Fri Oct-22-21 10:37 PM by Stadiq

          

that would take Kyrie over Dame.


"best dribbling" L O L


Honestly? Dame doesn't deserve it either. I tend to agree with the person below who said Bron, KD, Steph are it right now. I'd probably add Giannis. Maybe Kawhi.

Not Dame.

But I could name 50 players that deserve it more than Kyrie.

  

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39. "50-40-90 "
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Fri Oct-22-21 10:48 PM by allStah

          

I’ll take a vaccinated Kyrie over Dame in a heartbeat.

What did Kyrie do to Steph in the Finals?

Dame hits a bunch a logo threes and chokes in the POs


Kyrie even turned his defense up.

Dame doesn’t know what defense is.

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6. "NO Adrian Dantley??"
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Thu Oct-21-21 07:08 PM by allStah

          

Possibly then greatest scorer in nba history

6 time all star
Nba rookie of the year
2-time scoring champ.

The only player in nba history to avg 30 ppg, while shooting
55 percent from the field in 4 straight years....

And he was a perimeter player, no bigger than 6’4!

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9. "Shaq: LeBron En Route to Becoming The Best Ever"
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“He’s got four rings and he becomes the highest scorer in the NBA history? He’s the best ever,” O’Neal said. “Ain’t nothing you can say."

Add The Big Aristotle to the list of early adopters.

Source: https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2021-10-20/shaquille-oneal-says-lebron-james-greatest-ever-passes-kareem

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38. "Shaq says a lot of dumb shit"
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But you want to cite him when it helps? bwahaha


Jesus you are a weirdo. Do you go a day without thinking about Lebron? Honest question?

  

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47. "honest question:"
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Are you ok?

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10. "Glad bum ass draymond didn’t make this list . "
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Klay should have though


>https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-75-team-list-players-75th-anniversary-season/6jov1u8vfe861lgnpqf55ct3f
>
>NBA 75 team: Full list of players revealed as league
>celebrates 75th anniversary season
>
>As part of its 75th anniversary celebration, the league will
>be releasing a list featuring the 75 greatest players in NBA
>history during the first week of the 2021-22 season. A similar
>list was compiled ahead of the 1996-97 season to honor the 50
>greatest players of all time, but given the amount of talent
>that has come through the league since then, it's possible a
>few players from the original top 50 will lose their spots.
>
>NBA 75 team: Full list of players revealed
>(Note: These are not rankings.)
>
>1. Hal Greer
>
>2. Dirk Nowitzki
>
>3. Bob Pettit
>
>4. Oscar Robertson
>
>5. Bill Russell
>
>6. Giannis Antetokounmpo
>
>7. Kevin Durant
>
>8. Elvin Hayes
>
>9. Jerry Lucas
>
>10. Willis Reed
>
>11. Nate Archibald
>
>12. Bob Cousy
>
>13. Dave Cowens
>
>14. James Harden
>
>15. Hakeem Olajuwon
>
>16. Kevin McHale
>
>17. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
>
>18. George Mikan
>
>19. John Stockton
>
>20. Steve Nash
>
>21. Charles Barkley
>
>22. Julius Erving
>
>23. George Gervin
>
>24. Moses Malone
>
>25. David Robinson
>
>26. Magic Johnson
>
>27. James Worthy
>
>28. Wilt Chamberlain
>
>29. Jerry West
>
>30. Larry Bird
>
>31. Michael Jordan
>
>32. Scottie Pippen
>
>33. Isiah Thomas
>
>34. Clyde Drexler
>
>35. Karl Malone
>
>36. Patrick Ewing
>
>37. Chris Paul
>
>38. Allen Iverson
>
>39. Tim Duncan
>
>40. Kevin Garnett
>
>41. John Havlicek
>
>42. Sam Jones
>
>43. Robert Parish
>
>44. Bill Sharman
>
>45. Bill Walton
>
>46. Walt Frazier
>
>47. Paul Arizin
>
>48. Rick Barry
>
>49. Nate Thurmond
>
>50. Wes Unseld
>
>51. Elgin Baylor
>
>52. Dave Bing
>
>53. Billy Cunningham
>
>54. Dave DeBusschere
>
>55. Pete Maravich
>
>56. Earl Monroe
>
>57. Shaquille O'Neal
>
>58. Dolph Schayes
>
>59. Lenny Wilkens
>
>60. Dominique Wilkens
>
>61. Dennis Rodman
>
>62. Ray Allen
>
>63. Dwyane Wade
>
>64. Jason Kidd
>
>65. Kobe Bryant
>
>66. Gary Payton
>
>67. Bob McAdoo
>
>68. Paul Pierce
>
>69. Stephen Curry
>
>70. Reggie Miller
>
>71. Kawhi Leonard
>
>72. Damian Lillard
>
>73. LeBron James
>
>74. Carmelo Anthony
>
>75. Anthony Davis
>
>

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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15. "You could make a second top 75 "
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Fri Oct-22-21 08:18 AM by DJR

  

          

and Draymond shouldn’t be on it. Unless the Anthony Masons and and Paul Presseys of the world are on it too.

  

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17. "I was arguing with someone about Klay last night, they wanted to put him..."
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in over Reggie Miller.

My argument was Klay has never been a number one option on a team and has benefited greatly from being Steph's sidekick.

And unlike the ultimate sidekick Scottie Pippen Klay doesn't have a season without Steph where he lead the Warrior to the playoffs. He has been a 2nd and sometimes 3rd option his entire career.

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11. "I like Damian Lillard but......come on. "
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Fri Oct-22-21 07:57 AM by Sofian_Hadi

          

That man has no place being on this list. Maybe a future list. But, now? Over Mutombo, Dumars, McGrady, Howard, Tony Parker? etc etc

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12. "1 first team, a couple seconds and some all star games. That’s his res..."
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Dwight got 5 first teams and 3 or 4 dpoys
Ben Wallace?
Adrian Dantley???


It’s egregious

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13. "Im ashamed of myself for forgetting Ben Wallace. "
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It's almost as if they wanted two current stars (Davis and Lillard) to fill out the list. Anthony Davis has had maybe three or four actual healthy full seasons. Its obvious he will be one of the greats eventually, barring more injuries, but now today? I just dont think either of those two have resumes that scream GREATEST OF ALL TIME LIST

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

  

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16. "Guys, don't get over-invested in this. You have better things to do."
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18. "This bum ass list has James Harden over..."
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Fri Oct-22-21 11:58 AM by Kira

  

          

MJ
Scottie
Kobe
Zeke
Hakeem
Shaq
AI
Tim Duncan
Kidd
Glove
McHale
Stockton
Malone
Ewing
Bird

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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19. "The list isn't in ranked order."
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>MJ
>Scottie
>Kobe
>Zeke
>Hakeem
>Shaq
>AI
>Tim Duncan
>Kidd
>Glove
>McHale
>Stockton
>Malone
>Ewing
>Bird
>

  

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26. "dude thought they named Hal Greer as the best player ever."
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27. "😂"
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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30. "lmao. and i grew up a sixers fan and, come on. "
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20. "Even i fell victim to forgetting Dwight Howard because of his corniness"
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Someone posted his resume on Twitter. Holy shit.

https://twitter.com/19Phranchize/status/1451344029602521094

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

  

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23. "He did himself no favors but he obviously is a snub"
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21. "John Stockton was not better than Joe Dumars, among other things"
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I decided to spend my entire workday doing my own list, with no grainy black and white footage players that no one on this board has ever seen play

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22. "Argument could be made for Vince Carter as well. "
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If Damian Lillard and Anthony Davis can be on the list. I'd say Carter had way more of an impact on the NBA than either of those two.

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24. "No Dwight Howard is a TOTAL joke."
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He's legitimately one of the best bigs to ever play

Stop this shit

  

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25. "Probably my biggest takeaway."
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For beer lovers: http://thebeertravelguide.com
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28. "The resume is legitimately insane."
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8x all star
5x first all nba team
1x second all nba team
2x third all nba team
3x DPOY
4x defensive first team
5x rebounding leader
2x blocks leader
title

etc etc

A quick scan of first team selections - anyone with 5 or more made it except Dwight

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29. "Reggie Miller shouldn’t be in"
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He was a good player for a long time and his legacy is inflated by a couple iconic moments.

But he was never once a top 10 player in the league.

  

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31. "I guess if you use the 'can only tell the history of the league with him..."
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I guess if you use the 'can only tell the history of the league with him' rationale, you'd include him. Those Pacers/Knicks/Bulls battles are legendary.

But I don't object to leaving him off.

I saw Alex English's stats and he probably should be on there. Along with Adrian Dantley and some of the others named here, like Dwight.


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43. "That's an interesting argument. Reggie was certainly significant."
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I'm not quite sure how heavily that should be weighted, but I like that argument. Greatness includes certain intangibles that aren't necessarily quantified in stats, and Reggie holds a fairly significant place in the 90's NBA due to those intangibles.

  

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32. "The list is mostly solid"
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But I don't think Dame or AD should be on this list. And I'm not sure Worthy or Paul Pierce does either. Although Pierce did win a chip and Finals MVP and was the Celtics leading scorer(?) when he retired.

I'm not sure Kahwi has played enough, although I think by the end of his career he would have proven himself worthy.

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33. "outside of Lebron, Steph & KD I feel like most of the active players..."
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included are questionable.

Dwight should be in, those 8 years in Orlando was the career Anthony Davis was supposed to have. Dwight beat LeBron to get to the Finals, AD have to team up with LeBron to get there.

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35. "There's truly only an argument against AD, Dame, and Russ"
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As far as active players IMO.

Kawhi - his resume is insane, and only 3 people have won FMVPs with multiple franchises (him, Kareem, Bron).

Giannis - 2x MVP, DPOY, FMVP, 5x All Star, 3x First Team, 3x Defensive First Team, Most Improved, etc? Yeah, he's on there.

Melo - 10x All Star, Top 10 in scoring, 2x Second Team, 4x Third Team? No question.

Harden - MVP, 9x all star, 6MOY, 6x First Team, 3x scoring titles, etc? Zero question.

CP3 - 11x all star, 4x first team (9 total), 7x defensive first team, ROY, top 5 in assists? Yeah - he's there.

The title helped AD in a big way.

Dame...well, he's got some stuff...but no chance he deserves it over Dwight.

Russ...the MVP helps big time, as do the triple doubles. You can argue against him but I think he belongs.

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36. "Naw AD deserves to be on there"
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- NBA champion
- 8-time NBA Allstar
- NBA AllStar MVP
- 4 time FIRST team All NBA
- 3 time NBA blocks leader
- 2 time First team All Defense
- 2 times Second team All Defense


Great two way player.

To me, players who shouldn’t be on there:

Lillard, Lenny Wilkens( greater as a coach), Reggie Miller,
Carmelo( borderline).

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34. "Guys with FMVPs are hard to leave off"
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I mean, you can leave off Iggy given the rest of his resume

But if you have 5+ All Star appearances, any all NBA honors, and a FMVP? It's going to probably put you on this list - both Pierce and Worthy have those.

Kawhi...well, almost nobody has his resume. 2 DPOYs, 2 FMVPs, 5x all star, 3x first team, 3x first all defense, 4x all defense 2nd team...very very hard to leave him off. It's like Giannis - it's just too good of a resume to leave off, even as weird as it feels to include newish players.

That's why so many take issue with AD and Dame I guess. It's LIKELY they'll end up in this pantheon - but it's hard to say they're there now.

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41. "You listing Kahwi's accolades shifted my take on him"
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>Kawhi...well, almost nobody has his resume. 2 DPOYs, 2 FMVPs,
>5x all star, 3x first team, 3x first all defense, 4x all
>defense 2nd team...very very hard to leave him off. It's like
>Giannis - it's just too good of a resume to leave off, even as
>weird as it feels to include newish players.
>

I forgot he won two DPOY's for some reason. By any standard that should get him in.

I think the reason including Kahwi is odd is because 1. he's only 30 and 2. he wasn't really a 'thing' until a few years into his career. So he's only been a great for less than five years.

But then again, Giannis to me is a lock, even though he only has the one ring and is only 26. That's recency bias for you.

I looked over Worthy's stats again, to get a sense of his case to be on the list. According to them, there's a reason he's Big Game James.

I wasn't really a basketball fan when Showtime was a thing, but it was interesting to see that his scoring went up significantly in the postseason. So, between his improved performance in the playoffs, the five rings, and the Finals MVP, he does deserve to be on the list.

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42. "James got 3 rings, not 5"
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51. "You're right"
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I forgot Worthy didn't join the team until '84.

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52. "DUMARS"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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55. "Iggy, Maxwell, truth be told Kawhi was more a role player for his 1st"
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60. "Dennis Johnson won FMVP, 3 rings, 5x AllStar, 2x All-NBA, 9x All-Defense"
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he doesn't have the numbers of other guys, but in any other measure of accolades/achievements he is legit.

Simmons had DJ and Dwight as his two snubs.


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40. "So what team is Lebron going to go to next year? "
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HIS NAME IS MASON MOUNT
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44. "Vince and Tracey got snubbed!"
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Lillard, Harden shouldn't be on if they can't get a spot...no Webber?

Man!

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45. "Klay ain’t being bashful about it…"
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https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1451612488886325253?s=20

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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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46. "I really thing he is doing too much but if that helps his recovery..."
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more power to him

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48. "Ionno, man…I can see where he’s coming from…"
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hasn’t played an NBA game in almost 2.5 years…prolly feels like people forgot what he’s about.

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50. "he's a sidekick, never been "the man" on his own team, it is what it is."
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59. "RE: he's a sidekick - that in itself is too reductive"
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because being the second best player on a title team isnt a knock in and of itself

Joe Dumars was that. but Joe Dumars filled his role by being either the first or second best perimeter defender in the entire league, and whether one prefers Jordan or Dumars isnt even relevant because there was no one else in the convo.

Dumars also blazed 5x All Defense 1st teamer Michael Cooper for 27 ppg on the way to a Finals MVP.

he also never played on a team where he could do 16p/4r/2a in the Finals and they would win anyways. if Joe D wasnt peak Joe D in the postseason, those Pistons dont win any chips.

so theres levels to being the second best guy on a title team

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53. "fuck him"
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these "what about me" ass dudes with no perspective whatsoever are hilarious

hes really gonna pitch a bitch about not being on an alltime list that Joe Dumars isnt on?

with his fewer AS (6-5), fewer All-NBA (3-2), and his piddly lil 1x 2nd Team All D (Joe D has 4x 1st, 1x 2nd), combined with his lack of a Finals MVP

thats the resume hes gonna tout?

to reiterate...fuck him.

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54. "facts..."
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>these "what about me" ass dudes with no perspective
>whatsoever are hilarious
>
>hes really gonna pitch a bitch about not being on an alltime
>list that Joe Dumars isnt on?
>
>with his fewer AS (6-5), fewer All-NBA (3-2), and his piddly
>lil 1x 2nd Team All D (Joe D has 4x 1st, 1x 2nd), combined
>with his lack of a Finals MVP
>
>thats the resume hes gonna tout?
>
>to reiterate...fuck him.

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56. "Damn, bro...I ain't know you had the K with you...geez"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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57. "lmao i have very strong feelings on this particular issue"
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and i try not to let a GSW layoff run go by without highlighting that Klay is an underseasoned low-carb version of Joe D

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58. "I respect this take. and fuck Draymond too while we're at it."
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stupid mouth breathing fuckface thinks he's gonna make it after another 25 years lmao


>these "what about me" ass dudes with no perspective
>whatsoever are hilarious
>
>hes really gonna pitch a bitch about not being on an alltime
>list that Joe Dumars isnt on?
>
>with his fewer AS (6-5), fewer All-NBA (3-2), and his piddly
>lil 1x 2nd Team All D (Joe D has 4x 1st, 1x 2nd), combined
>with his lack of a Finals MVP
>
>thats the resume hes gonna tout?
>
>to reiterate...fuck him.

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49. "apparently THIS is the correct list...:"
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https://www.nba.com/news/nba-75th-anniversary-team-announced

I was confused as the why Westbrook wasn't on the list I posted but apparently that list is incorrect...

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