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"NBA Off-season Post"


          

Well…it’s that time. The NBA never stops. What’s gonna pop off, this summer? Who’s on the move? Where does Ben play? Is Dame serious about leaving? Suns resigning Chris? Does Lowry finally become a Laker?

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All indications are lots of S&Ts and player movement
Jul 21st 2021
1
Chris Paul and other stuff
Jul 21st 2021
2
They have to pay CP3. They don't really have a choice, imo.
Jul 21st 2021
5
lots of decent free agent options at PG
Jul 21st 2021
3
Dame for Khris and Jrue. Who says no?
Jul 21st 2021
4
Milwaukee should 100% say no to that.
Jul 21st 2021
6
Need to add McCollum in there contracts wise
Jul 21st 2021
7
I believe Dame said he wants to go to Philly or NYK.
Jul 21st 2021
8
the Bucks would be stupid to say yes
Jul 21st 2021
11
I hope Warriors get Simmons and ship off Draymond.
Jul 21st 2021
9
I disagree re: Dray and Ben.
Jul 21st 2021
10
      crazy that this is about a #1 overall
Jul 22nd 2021
24
           and that some people don't want Simmons, another #1 overall!
Jul 24th 2021
30
IT'S THE MOST WON-DERFUL TIIIIME OF THE YEAR!
Jul 21st 2021
12
i wouldn't be mad if they threw a bunch of money at lonzo.
Jul 21st 2021
13
      RE: i wouldn't be mad if they threw a bunch of money at lonzo.
Jul 22nd 2021
17
Pelicans have offered Ingram and picks for Dame…
Jul 22nd 2021
14
That seems like a bad trade for both teams.
Jul 22nd 2021
15
      To be fair, the Pels have a *lot* of first round picks.
Jul 22nd 2021
19
           Ingram and five 1sts would be an incredible haul
Jul 22nd 2021
25
Did Kawhi opt out?
Jul 22nd 2021
16
He said back during the season that he would…
Jul 22nd 2021
18
Lakers need a PG.
Jul 22nd 2021
20
I'm not a fan of the Westbrook rumors either
Jul 22nd 2021
21
I hope it is Westbrook.
Jul 22nd 2021
22
RE: Lakers need a PG.
Jul 22nd 2021
23
if it comes down to Russ or CP3 give me Russ a million times
Jul 22nd 2021
26
I'd think I'd rather have Lonzo back than overpay for either
Jul 22nd 2021
27
      While you're right, I think Zo is gonna get a big paycheck this summer.
Jul 24th 2021
31
I think Lowry would be a good fit
Jul 22nd 2021
28
Sources: Bradley Beal Considering Trade Request Before NBA Draft
Jul 24th 2021
29
Apparently Siakam wants off the Raptors? That’s… a choice.
Jul 24th 2021
32
We have a trade, folks…
Jul 26th 2021
33
Seems win win
Jul 26th 2021
34
I didn't think they could do anything until the new league year in Augus...
Jul 26th 2021
35
can’t be finalized til August 5th
Jul 26th 2021
36
Pelicans have Ball's bird rights
Jul 26th 2021
37
Oh I think they're out of the Lonzo business.
Jul 26th 2021
38
what do the Lakers get out of this?
Jul 26th 2021
39
Nothing?
Jul 26th 2021
40
What does his post have to do with the Lakers?
Jul 27th 2021
44
      RE: What does his post have to do with the Lakers?
Jul 27th 2021
48
           Oh dear god. We got Anthony Davis, two years ago.
Jul 27th 2021
49
                I was just asking question about the specifics of the Lakers'...
Jul 28th 2021
51
                     lol, What's with you telling everyone to calm down
Jul 28th 2021
52
                          I wasn't talking to "everyone"
Jul 28th 2021
55
                               Oh dear god, I'm talking about your penchant for telling people
Jul 28th 2021
58
If they think Lonzo is cheaper than Lowry…
Jul 26th 2021
43
      Lowry isn't a great deal for them IMO.
Jul 27th 2021
46
           Agreed. Lowry would need to be paired with someone else.
Jul 28th 2021
65
So they could sign someone else.
Jul 27th 2021
45
so you sayin they got Ball by the Birds? nm
Jul 30th 2021
136
Steven Adams may not make sense on paper, but I don't trade him.
Jul 26th 2021
41
      They had serious paint crowding issues with Adams and Zion.
Jul 26th 2021
42
           Definitely get the Bledsoe part and the spacing thing makes sense
Jul 27th 2021
47
                This has nothing to do with the trade
Jul 28th 2021
50
                     Honestly, if the Bucks kept Brogdon and dumped Bledsoe earlier
Jul 28th 2021
54
                          I totally forgot he was on the Bucks.
Jul 30th 2021
131
.
Jul 28th 2021
53
Jaxson Hayes involved in police incident….
Jul 28th 2021
56
is there a chance the Pistons don't take Cade?
Jul 28th 2021
57
May as well trade down if they don't
Jul 28th 2021
59
Sure, if someone offered them something bonkers.
Jul 28th 2021
64
Damn, we offered Shai and the #6 for the #1...
Jul 28th 2021
60
wow...
Jul 28th 2021
61
I mean, is that real?
Jul 28th 2021
62
      Shai's a restricted free agent after next season.
Jul 28th 2021
63
      wow...
Jul 28th 2021
67
      By the way, worth noting here, as we did on the show...
Jul 29th 2021
70
      That’s a good point regarding the timelines.
Jul 29th 2021
69
           As I mentioned above...
Jul 29th 2021
71
      Definitely feel you on the misinformation thing…
Jul 28th 2021
66
           Someone tweeted that the Lakers declined Kuz for Shai and #6
Jul 28th 2021
68
           Dudes been around for a good minute…
Jul 29th 2021
73
           There's just such a big difference between the Top 4 and the rest.
Jul 29th 2021
72
Damn…Buddy for Kuz and Harrell in the works…
Jul 29th 2021
74
Nah we getting Westbrook. Shams beat Woj on this one
Jul 29th 2021
75
Shams has a more recent tweet saying Westbrook
Jul 29th 2021
76
Yep…
Jul 29th 2021
77
LMAO Woj backtracking after the Shams scoop
Jul 29th 2021
79
I AM SPEECHLESS 😶…
Jul 29th 2021
78
? What happened
Jul 29th 2021
80
Russ…going home to play in LA…I’m elated!
Jul 29th 2021
81
      Is it done?
Jul 29th 2021
83
           Nothing is official yet
Jul 29th 2021
85
                ... I'd rather have Buddy and KCP. *darts out of post*
Jul 29th 2021
86
                     Better run fast lmao
Jul 29th 2021
88
                     Lol
Jul 29th 2021
92
                     Don't I know it, lol.
Jul 29th 2021
94
                          we didn't have great 3 point shooting in the bubble, healthy Bron & AD.....
Jul 29th 2021
98
                          KCP, who shows up every third night.
Jul 29th 2021
102
                               I agree with all that.
Jul 29th 2021
105
                                    Yeah I'm just seeing a few too many hot analytic takes on this
Jul 29th 2021
111
                                         I think Russ easily makes you all a top 3 team right away.
Jul 29th 2021
115
                     strictly on the court you’re probably right, but i don’t care
Jul 30th 2021
138
I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to make this trade?
Jul 29th 2021
99
They’re gonna trade *cue Oldman in The Professional*
Jul 29th 2021
100
RE: I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to make this trade?
Jul 29th 2021
101
Don't like the move
Jul 30th 2021
125
This draft is going to be ridiculous.
Jul 29th 2021
82
Curious where Bradley ends up
Jul 29th 2021
84
REPORT: He's staying in DC.
Jul 29th 2021
87
👍🏾
Jul 29th 2021
91
I'm curious
Jul 30th 2021
130
      Since Beal says he's committed to staying in DC...
Jul 30th 2021
132
           Assuming the Dinwiddle deal is final
Aug 03rd 2021
217
Ricky Rubio to Cleveland, Taurean Prince to Minnesota.
Jul 29th 2021
89
sixers tryna move simmons by tonight. warriors turned down this deal:
Jul 29th 2021
90
WOW…that’s a lot!!!
Jul 29th 2021
95
Lmao. Philly management drunk early
Jul 29th 2021
96
GSW's right to do so. That's too much for a guy who wants to leave.
Jul 29th 2021
97
not only does he wanna leave he prolly wants to go to the warriors lol.
Jul 29th 2021
116
Sixers acting like they sending out Jokic AND Murray lol
Jul 29th 2021
103
the 2 extra future firsts is asking too much
Jul 29th 2021
106
Yeah, no way the Warriors make that deal
Jul 29th 2021
113
Shamet to Phoenix…
Jul 29th 2021
93
You know, I'm betting THT gets dealt in a S&T for a shooter
Jul 29th 2021
104
WHY NOT?!
Jul 29th 2021
107
Laker Nation…
Jul 29th 2021
108
Go to work, Sam…
Jul 29th 2021
109
*Sly grin*
Jul 29th 2021
110
Also: I expect this to be a W for the Wizards.
Jul 29th 2021
112
Love Brad, man…
Jul 29th 2021
114
      I like seeing a guy say "hey, this is my home. Please keep me here."
Jul 29th 2021
117
Spacing is an issue but Bron/AD/Russ? Ok!
Jul 29th 2021
118
it'll be a issue in the playoffs. they'll have a wonderful regular seaso...
Jul 29th 2021
119
Agreed on both fronts.
Jul 29th 2021
120
I wonder if DeRozan
Jul 29th 2021
121
he won't help spacing and THT can do everything he can at this point
Jul 30th 2021
122
According to basketball-reference.com
Jul 30th 2021
124
Not happening.
Jul 30th 2021
139
      Derozan shoots worse from 3 than Russ, I don’t know why people…
Jul 30th 2021
140
it's Mac McClung's team now bruh
Jul 30th 2021
126
Just hope we can get him enough help
Jul 30th 2021
127
      me too.
Jul 30th 2021
128
           Lol,,nice
Jul 30th 2021
129
Who is AD's backup?
Jul 30th 2021
134
      probably Keef
Jul 30th 2021
135
Utah sending Derrick Favors to OKC…
Jul 30th 2021
123
Otto Porter is seeking the MLE…
Jul 30th 2021
133
could be an interesting Laker piece
Jul 30th 2021
137
      He is Elijah Price, aka Mr.Glass.
Jul 31st 2021
142
           that's why he would be cheap genius...
Aug 01st 2021
149
So Denver and Utah will dominate the West next season.
Jul 31st 2021
141
RE: So Denver and Utah will dominate the West next season.
Jul 31st 2021
143
He gets you stats. He puts fans in the seats.
Jul 31st 2021
144
      11 playoff appearances, 4 conf. finals, 1 NBA finals
Jul 31st 2021
145
you can't be one of the best playmakers in the league
Aug 01st 2021
146
The Malone/Payton Lakers dominated until injuries.
Aug 02nd 2021
157
Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes
Aug 01st 2021
147
This acquisition and the drafting of Ayo makeup for the horrible
Aug 01st 2021
148
LMAO
Aug 02nd 2021
159
      AYO>>>>>>>>>>>>>LAVINE
Aug 02nd 2021
160
RE: Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes
Aug 01st 2021
150
RE: Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes
Aug 01st 2021
151
      RE: Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes
Aug 01st 2021
152
      Just as a b-ball fan, I’d love to see him in Philly
Aug 01st 2021
153
      right
Aug 01st 2021
154
      Which is why I believe the rumors about him to Miami, lol.
Aug 02nd 2021
155
           ...and I know it's all just chatter until something happens...
Aug 02nd 2021
158
If the Pels let Lonzo get away *and* miss on Lowry...
Aug 02nd 2021
156
      Lowry and Zion's timelines don't matchup anyway
Aug 02nd 2021
161
      Lowry and Zion's timelines don't matchup anyway
Aug 02nd 2021
162
      Zion's timeline is right TODAY...you have him taking some steps?
Aug 02nd 2021
163
           I don't see a 35y/o with a ring voluntarily going to a 30 win team built...
Aug 02nd 2021
164
           lol right. If Zion wants to win now, Pels gotta help him get there.
Aug 02nd 2021
165
                does any point guard make the Pelicans a contender in 2 years? Do you...
Aug 02nd 2021
168
                     For the Pels, the goal isn't to win a title in the next two years.
Aug 02nd 2021
177
      *rubs hands*
Aug 02nd 2021
166
      RE: *rubs hands*
Aug 02nd 2021
167
      I'd be OVERJOYED.
Aug 02nd 2021
175
      Lowry to Miami
Aug 02nd 2021
176
Lonzo to the Bulls per Woj.... 4/85
Aug 02nd 2021
169
Seems like Lonzo truly wanted nothing to do with NOLA
Aug 02nd 2021
172
They're fucked unless Kira takes a serious leap.
Aug 02nd 2021
178
Says something about the Bulls culture...
Aug 02nd 2021
173
      Ben Wallace?
Aug 02nd 2021
182
Mike Conley returning to Utah
Aug 02nd 2021
170
Best team in the west collapsed without him...earned every penny
Aug 16th 2021
416
Let the AYO/Ball backcourt era began!
Aug 02nd 2021
171
Congrats??
Aug 02nd 2021
180
Jimmy Butler...bag acquired
Aug 02nd 2021
174
CP3 to Phoenix: 4 years, 120 mil.
Aug 02nd 2021
179
Walk it up and slow em down Chris!
Aug 02nd 2021
181
Four!
Aug 02nd 2021
186
Reply #5. They had no choice.
Aug 02nd 2021
203
Four more years of playoff injuries and dribbling out the shot clock.
Aug 02nd 2021
209
What were the terms?
Aug 03rd 2021
227
Man, where is Dennis gonna go?
Aug 02nd 2021
183
New Orleans?
Aug 02nd 2021
184
his bag dried tf up
Aug 02nd 2021
185
      Dude's gonna end up as Russ' back up again isnt he
Aug 02nd 2021
187
           Lol ok then
Aug 02nd 2021
211
shams is killing woj this offseason.
Aug 02nd 2021
188
They usually net out to even at the end of it all though right?
Aug 02nd 2021
189
i think ESPN makes Woj hold things back for air
Aug 02nd 2021
193
iono but i feel like that lakers hield/westbrook shit changed everything...
Aug 02nd 2021
194
      some people are still thinking a 3rd part of that trade may materialize
Aug 03rd 2021
214
when shams tells a us senator to eat shit then he can call me
Aug 04th 2021
356
Dwight and Ariza are back. Cool.
Aug 02nd 2021
190
Goonball back
Aug 02nd 2021
191
Ellington too. That's a great start to FA for Lakers
Aug 02nd 2021
192
Knicks gave Fournier 4/78!
Aug 02nd 2021
195
Why?
Aug 02nd 2021
199
      Because they're the Knicks.
Aug 02nd 2021
202
           Yea, say no more
Aug 02nd 2021
204
           to balance out 3 point shooting
Aug 03rd 2021
273
I'll miss you, CarusoGOAT. Bulls - 4/37.
Aug 02nd 2021
196
oh snap!
Aug 02nd 2021
197
the moment d rose agreed with the knicks this came through
Aug 02nd 2021
198
This mean Dennis is staying?
Aug 02nd 2021
201
He is a solid on ball defender. He hustles,
Aug 02nd 2021
206
I mean, Mac McClung made him expendable.
Aug 03rd 2021
221
Trevor Ariza and Dwight Howard are back to Lakers
Aug 02nd 2021
200
LeGM on that LeThanos -- Lakers putting it together
Aug 02nd 2021
205
PJ to the Heat…2/15
Aug 02nd 2021
207
Devonte Graham to New Orleans
Aug 02nd 2021
208
i like graham. hope he balls out in NO.
Aug 02nd 2021
210
Dinwiddie to Washington
Aug 02nd 2021
212
Steph set to sign 4 year, $215 million extension
Aug 03rd 2021
213
Miami WON, shit might be ugly in a couple of years but 76y/o Riles...
Aug 03rd 2021
215
More teams should operate that way.
Aug 03rd 2021
220
      I think he's trying to make up for not going all in on Harden last year
Aug 03rd 2021
223
           Certainly a possibility.
Aug 03rd 2021
228
Jeff Green left Brooklyn
Aug 03rd 2021
216
He was tired of signing 1 year deals…
Aug 03rd 2021
218
      RE: He was tired of signing 1 year deals…
Aug 03rd 2021
222
Drummond to the Sixers for 1 year.
Aug 03rd 2021
219
so basically he and Dwight trading spots, I'll take Dwight lol
Aug 03rd 2021
224
There's no contest.
Aug 03rd 2021
229
this is funny lol...
Aug 03rd 2021
225
He gotta back up his bully. Couldn’t be me
Aug 03rd 2021
235
jeez
Aug 03rd 2021
256
Miami Heat=Yuck
Aug 03rd 2021
226
I'll bet you $500 the Lakers finish ahead of the Grizzlies next year.
Aug 03rd 2021
231
      LOL
Aug 03rd 2021
239
           Gotcha. You're just trolling. Say no more.
Aug 03rd 2021
242
                No
Aug 03rd 2021
247
                     Put it this way.
Aug 03rd 2021
249
                          No.
Aug 03rd 2021
254
                               Feel free to make it less money if you’re not confident.
Aug 03rd 2021
261
Patty Mills to the Nets.
Aug 03rd 2021
230
Huge signing for the Nets, considering Ky's history.
Aug 03rd 2021
232
Fuck. Who's left? George Hill?
Aug 03rd 2021
234
RE: Fuck. Who's left? George Hill?
Aug 03rd 2021
236
The Monk and Carmelo deals
Aug 03rd 2021
244
      The beauty of having Anthony Davis Is that defense isn't a concern.
Aug 03rd 2021
248
           I don't fully understand
Aug 03rd 2021
253
                Sorry, I'll clarify.
Aug 03rd 2021
265
If the Bulls land DeRozan, we will have won the offseason
Aug 03rd 2021
233
over Miami?
Aug 03rd 2021
238
That's a bigger jump than Miami, no?
Aug 03rd 2021
240
RE: That's a bigger jump than Miami, no?
Aug 03rd 2021
246
You have to excuse him. He does this every year.
Aug 03rd 2021
245
You know this better than me
Aug 03rd 2021
258
      They can't extend LaVine until after 21-22.
Aug 03rd 2021
259
      Right now, they can offer him more than what his current
Aug 03rd 2021
...and there it is, Melo to the Lakers
Aug 03rd 2021
237
Malik Monk to the Lakers
Aug 03rd 2021
241
WHEW! Someone under 30!
Aug 03rd 2021
250
LOL.
Aug 03rd 2021
295
Fuck it, thats a good one
Aug 03rd 2021
251
Getting him on the cheap
Aug 03rd 2021
257
FUCK. He is about to get his paper.
Aug 03rd 2021
252
He'll be a good guy to give the odd bench minutes.
Aug 03rd 2021
243
The LA Expendables....or Extendables...or Expires
Aug 03rd 2021
255
Derozan to Bulls done, per Woj
Aug 03rd 2021
260
Hate losing Thad Young...
Aug 03rd 2021
263
We'll be playoff competitive for at least 3 seasons
Aug 03rd 2021
264
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH
Aug 03rd 2021
266
The draft assets aren't that bad though:
Aug 03rd 2021
267
      Not bad at all. It's worth it to get out of the doldrums
Aug 03rd 2021
269
If Lonzo takes another leap, that's a good ass squad.
Aug 03rd 2021
277
Half a season of competence...
Aug 03rd 2021
301
I don't see how Miami got *that* much better
Aug 03rd 2021
262
I wonder what they do with Oladipo
Aug 03rd 2021
268
He's a free agent.
Aug 03rd 2021
270
Where does he realistically fit?
Aug 03rd 2021
275
      I have no clue what he has left.
Aug 03rd 2021
278
ha. forgot about him. his regression bc injury seems real unfortunately.
Aug 03rd 2021
271
is Kyle Lowry really one of Miami's 3 best players?
Aug 03rd 2021
290
Notable remaining FA's
Aug 03rd 2021
272
Dinwiddie is a Wizard
Aug 03rd 2021
274
One down then
Aug 03rd 2021
276
damn, Miami snatched the shit out of that qualifying offer for Nunn
Aug 03rd 2021
279
Hassan Whiteside would be a nice goon pickup at
Aug 03rd 2021
280
Hassan and Birch would be real nice.
Aug 03rd 2021
281
Hope the Knicks sign Birch.
Aug 03rd 2021
327
Wonder if the knicks will ever have a top 25 point guard
Aug 03rd 2021
282
I wonder if this pandemic will end
Aug 04th 2021
348
Hmm, not sure how I feel about the Derozan deal.
Aug 03rd 2021
283
Monk is a great pick-up for the Lakers; they still have mid-level
Aug 03rd 2021
284
Rob want his respect (c)
Aug 03rd 2021
285
He deserves it. Hell of a GM/VP of Ops
Aug 03rd 2021
293
didn't McLemore sign with Portland?
Aug 03rd 2021
287
      Yup. Damn I missed that one in the FA frenzy
Aug 03rd 2021
291
again I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to do all this?
Aug 03rd 2021
286
aren't the majority of them vet minimums?
Aug 03rd 2021
288
the draw of playing in L.A. w/ LeBron, Brow & Brodie is real
Aug 03rd 2021
289
RE: again I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to do all this?
Aug 03rd 2021
292
Vet minimum deals
Aug 03rd 2021
294
Dwight, Melo, Ellington, Bazemore, and Monk are minimums
Aug 03rd 2021
305
THT Resigns for 3/32
Aug 03rd 2021
296
Key signing to buoy the Laker bench; young legs
Aug 03rd 2021
298
Very tradable contract as well.
Aug 03rd 2021
306
Kendrick Nunn too huh? Okay
Aug 03rd 2021
297
damn today is moving fast.
Aug 03rd 2021
299
He should honestly sign for 2/30 with a player option
Aug 03rd 2021
302
      at this point - probably. the market is dry for him right now
Aug 03rd 2021
304
      We used most of the tax MLE on Nunn.
Aug 03rd 2021
311
      Somewhere hoping he took the extension like Dennis
Aug 03rd 2021
323
      speaking of people turning down money where is Oladipo?
Aug 03rd 2021
314
      Not sure he has that option after we got Monk and Nunn.
Aug 03rd 2021
310
Shit. That's a nice ass backup.
Aug 03rd 2021
300
RE: Shit. That's a nice ass backup.
Aug 03rd 2021
303
      You can't sign a player in FA and flip him like that
Aug 03rd 2021
307
           yah, 3 months or December 15 (may be diff. with the year being weird)
Aug 03rd 2021
309
Cuz, I'm Rob just came to have fun...
Aug 03rd 2021
308
Buddy has to happen. Someone will take Dennnis.
Aug 03rd 2021
312
As a Celtics fan. I'm sitting here looking mad as Sam Jackson lol
Aug 03rd 2021
313
Are we going to sign literally anyone???
Aug 03rd 2021
315
team is washed with 2 young stars ready to bolt
Aug 03rd 2021
317
Did yall at least resign Time Lord?
Aug 03rd 2021
326
He's still under contract this year.
Aug 03rd 2021
328
I think Brad Stevens the GM will be worse that Brad Stevens the coach...
Aug 04th 2021
330
aye Lach. I was shocked that Boston did NOTHING
Aug 04th 2021
331
I was searching for info on the Kemba Walker trade
Aug 04th 2021
332
I mean, it's very clear their goal is the 2022/23 free agent pool.
Aug 04th 2021
341
      Thank you for helping me calm down
Aug 04th 2021
346
      That was going to be a given regardless.
Aug 04th 2021
350
           RE: That was going to be a given regardless.
Aug 06th 2021
377
      yeah I keep hearing rumors of pursuing Beal next summer
Aug 04th 2021
353
           Brad and JT on the same team *swoon*
Aug 04th 2021
354
Malik Monk will be a mega hit in LA if he can keep his life together
Aug 03rd 2021
316
What did he do? I see he's into anime. Seems like a dork.
Aug 03rd 2021
318
      RE: He was a big fan of the booger sugar
Aug 03rd 2021
324
           Ah, thats why we stayed away...damn.
Aug 03rd 2021
325
Losing Kieff to the Heat hurts our frontcourt depth but InRobWeTrust
Aug 03rd 2021
319
that rob lowe and rich paul combo is murder.
Aug 03rd 2021
320
LOL
Aug 03rd 2021
321
Mamba left us in good hands, with his mans
Aug 03rd 2021
322
      facts...
Aug 03rd 2021
329
Kemba headed to the Knicks
Aug 04th 2021
333
I'm seeing on twitter the Knicks will get Kemba Walker.
Aug 04th 2021
334
shit is crazy
Aug 04th 2021
336
Walker, Rose, Ntilkina, Quickley, McBride, Harper.. what’s the plan??
Aug 04th 2021
342
      Frank is gone. Harper, G-League.
Aug 04th 2021
344
      Got it, makes sense
Aug 04th 2021
347
      Fournier?
Aug 04th 2021
349
           RE: Fournier?
Aug 04th 2021
351
                Now I'm curious
Aug 20th 2021
434
      RE: Walker, Rose, Ntilkina, Quickley, McBride, Harper.. what’s the pla...
Aug 04th 2021
345
Outside of the Clippers, who else can offer Kawhi Leonard top dollar?
Aug 04th 2021
335
I think he's staying with the Clippers
Aug 04th 2021
337
      I know.
Aug 04th 2021
338
           RE: I know.
Aug 04th 2021
339
I think every team thinks they have a shot with the way things played...
Aug 04th 2021
340
Which is why I honestly respect what the Celtics are doing.
Aug 04th 2021
343
      100% Agree
Aug 04th 2021
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      I agree. It's just HARD tho to wait lol. But 2022 could be great for us
Aug 04th 2021
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           It's a great shot to test the young guys, see who's of value.
Aug 05th 2021
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           right 2022 free agent list could potential include KD, Harden, Kyrie...
Aug 05th 2021
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                Ain't gonna be Kyrie lol
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                     1000% won't be Kyrie lol
Aug 07th 2021
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                     I've been hearing they may be looking at Beal too...
Aug 10th 2021
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Dinwiddie to the Wiz may be folded into the Westbrook deal
Aug 04th 2021
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I Get Money (c)Julius
Aug 05th 2021
360
I starting to feel bad for Dennis...
Aug 05th 2021
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Set up a GoFundMe for him then.
Aug 05th 2021
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geez
Aug 05th 2021
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Everyone thought he was wrong for turning down 4/84
Aug 05th 2021
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has anybody heard anything about Tyreke Evans?
Aug 05th 2021
364
Windhorst said Pels offered CP3 100 mil…
Aug 05th 2021
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Well, at least they had the right idea! lol
Aug 05th 2021
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That's somewhat interesting
Aug 06th 2021
373
      He didn’t say whether or not other teams…
Aug 06th 2021
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           He maybe alienating Zion
Aug 06th 2021
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Dennis Schroder Agrees To a 4-Year, 120 million deal with Lakers
Aug 05th 2021
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savage
Aug 06th 2021
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RE: Dennis Schroder Agrees To a 4-Year, 120 million deal with Lakers
Aug 06th 2021
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his back issues aren't why he wore out his welcome.
Aug 06th 2021
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1 year, 5.9 mill offer from Boston. Damn.
Aug 10th 2021
386
What was stopping him last season?
Aug 10th 2021
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.
Aug 14th 2021
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Reggie Jack, back to the Clippers for 2/22
Aug 06th 2021
372
Grayson Allen to the Bucks! fuuuuuuck yeeeeeees
Aug 06th 2021
374
good replacement for Tucker. guy is a pest
Aug 06th 2021
375
really?
Aug 06th 2021
380
You gotta be focking kidding me??
Aug 06th 2021
379
KD's pockets STRAIGHT...
Aug 06th 2021
381
Kawhi Leonard re-signing with LA Clippers:
Aug 06th 2021
382
I just need someone to sign Born Ready.
Aug 06th 2021
383
Odds are looking slim for an American tour for The Guitar
Aug 30th 2021
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Dennis to the Celtics. 1 year, 5.9 mil.
Aug 10th 2021
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...the letter came back 3 days later, return to sender. DAMN (c)
Aug 10th 2021
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lol
Aug 11th 2021
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bruh
Aug 11th 2021
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Damn
Aug 10th 2021
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To me this outcome is worse than the Boogie/IT situations
Aug 10th 2021
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On the positive for Celtics fan
Aug 10th 2021
393
So was last year.
Aug 10th 2021
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      RE: So was last year.
Aug 10th 2021
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I think his arrogance did him in on this.
Aug 10th 2021
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agree on all that
Aug 11th 2021
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      He won’t get the reps in Boston to really recoup
Aug 11th 2021
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           Wanted to see him get that bag, too…
Aug 11th 2021
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                I'm waiting for the story behind this to come out.
Aug 11th 2021
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                     maybe he just isnt well liked in league circles
Aug 11th 2021
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Kraut Kwame pockets KAPUT!
Aug 14th 2021
406
Damn Strudel!!
Aug 14th 2021
407
LA Clippers re-sign Kawhi Leonard to 4-year, $176.3 million max deal:
Aug 13th 2021
404
A medium sized Woj Bomb on Sunday night
Aug 15th 2021
408
Good for the Clippers.
Aug 15th 2021
409
Part of me
Aug 15th 2021
410
      Looks like a team with their top scorer injured is looking for scoring
Aug 15th 2021
412
      Nah it was the shove in the back to Chris Paul
Aug 17th 2021
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Man starting the new season with a suspension...
Aug 15th 2021
411
Bev gets to bully backup PGs now....and Memphis will love him
Aug 15th 2021
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Somebody on Twitter said Beverly going to Memphis…
Aug 16th 2021
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      he's basically a replacement for Grayson Allen
Aug 16th 2021
415
I understand the financial aspect to this
Aug 16th 2021
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      RE: I understand the financial aspect to this
Aug 16th 2021
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      RE: I understand the financial aspect to this
Aug 16th 2021
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           Based on his play last year, especially in the playoffs…yes
Aug 16th 2021
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      You think they're punting after being a couple games from the Finals?
Aug 17th 2021
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           I mean, by all accounts Kawhi is gonna be out most of the season
Aug 17th 2021
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                and if we do know anything about Kawhi…
Aug 17th 2021
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                     Best case scenario, Bledsoe helps keep them in the mix...
Aug 17th 2021
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Marcus Smart's pockets STRAIGHT...:
Aug 16th 2021
421
Hope Patrick can get his security deposit back…
Aug 17th 2021
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Lol
Aug 17th 2021
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He still in line waiting for his barbecue.
Aug 17th 2021
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big picture wise he's making $14mil this year which is not bad for a guy...
Aug 17th 2021
430
Well, yeah man…
Aug 17th 2021
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yeah, he turned the cup of coffee into a starting job
Aug 27th 2021
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What a humbling offseason.
Aug 17th 2021
431
Nets-Lakers Christmas Day...
Aug 17th 2021
433
Lauri headed to Cleveland…
Aug 27th 2021
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Cleveland is so incompetent.
Aug 27th 2021
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WE HAVE THE BIGS!!!
Aug 27th 2021
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If Lauri starts at the 4...
Aug 27th 2021
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      You've got to wonder if they're considering him at the 3.
Aug 27th 2021
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           Right?
Aug 27th 2021
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                Nance is a better overall player than Lauri today.
Aug 27th 2021
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So is Mobley going to play as a 3?
Aug 27th 2021
439
Is Larry Nance Jr. good enough to satiate Dame Lillard's needs?
Aug 27th 2021
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He's definitely good enough to make them better.
Aug 27th 2021
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No, but he’s an excellent 4th option or so on a team.
Aug 27th 2021
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Nance Jr is the best part of this entire trade scenario...
Sep 07th 2021
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if jones jr can contribute at pf off the bench and we we get a mid-first
Aug 27th 2021
447
"luka's been working on his cardio this offseason"
Aug 28th 2021
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Medicinal...
Aug 28th 2021
449
OH NO NOT HOOKAH
Aug 28th 2021
450
Luka Ray Doncic
Sep 07th 2021
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Kevin Love: “Fuck you, pay me.”
Aug 28th 2021
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Lol, reminds me of that Steve Nash quote…
Aug 28th 2021
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As he, and any other player, should.
Aug 28th 2021
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That's great but he can't complain about the team at the same time.
Aug 28th 2021
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      Ha fair.
Aug 29th 2021
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      Sure he can.
Aug 29th 2021
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      Yeah, nah
Aug 30th 2021
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           he has the contract and is owned the money but be a good vet sit on...
Aug 30th 2021
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                This absolutely isn't true.
Aug 30th 2021
462
Grizzlies buy out Rondo…
Aug 28th 2021
453
Lakers…
Aug 30th 2021
459
Ben: Imma head out…
Aug 31st 2021
463
Writing's been on the wall. I'd... love him in Portland.
Aug 31st 2021
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      That works, but because Ben is spoiled, he probably ends up in
Aug 31st 2021
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           Minnesota already has a point guard that is better than Simmons
Aug 31st 2021
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           Problem is that Minnesota starts three non-defenders.
Aug 31st 2021
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                Touché, Dlo is atrocious defensively
Sep 01st 2021
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           Morey *does* strike me as the type of dude...
Aug 31st 2021
468
Cavaliers sign Tacko Fall-- another big man! Of course!
Aug 31st 2021
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Somebody help me understand
Aug 31st 2021
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      It defies understanding. They're singularly incompetent.
Aug 31st 2021
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           Yea, that about sums it up
Aug 31st 2021
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Nets send DeAndre to DeTroit…
Sep 03rd 2021
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I almost forgot Jah is still in the league tbh
Sep 03rd 2021
475
From National Champion... to NBA Champion?
Sep 03rd 2021
479
      Grand Opening….
Sep 09th 2021
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           lol, hey, I called it in that post.
Sep 09th 2021
485
Anyone remember when Jordan was supposed to be the...
Sep 03rd 2021
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      No. He was never touted part as a "Big 3" for the Nets.
Sep 03rd 2021
477
      Everyone should've known this was going to happen.
Sep 03rd 2021
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sheed said bron wouldnt ball out in his era.
Sep 07th 2021
482
I mean DJ has nothing left right?
Sep 09th 2021
484
He's better than Drummond, but neither can switch, obviously.
Sep 09th 2021
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we need the depth, unlike Drummond who came in w/ expectations to start....
Sep 10th 2021
488
Looks like Marc Gasol is done with the NBA
Sep 10th 2021
487
Finally...
Sep 15th 2021
493
Rockets are looking to trade Wall... without buying him out.
Sep 14th 2021
489
I really don't understand his thinking here.
Sep 14th 2021
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      Horford's guaranteed money in the next two seasons...
Sep 14th 2021
492
Aaron Gordon signs a 4 year/92 mil extension with Denver…
Sep 14th 2021
491
Got faked….
Sep 17th 2021
494
The Athletic has a history of "breaking" bogus stories
Sep 21st 2021
496
JJ Redick announces retirement
Sep 21st 2021
495
One of the best 3-point shooters in basketball history.
Sep 21st 2021
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Gersson Rosas fired as T'wolves' president of basketball operations
Sep 23rd 2021
498
Wiggins remains unvaccinated jeopardizing his availability for GS...
Sep 23rd 2021
499
nigga finally shows some heart and commitment
Sep 23rd 2021
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lol...
Sep 23rd 2021
501
?
Sep 23rd 2021
502
It's a fucking joke, you insufferable buffoon
Sep 23rd 2021
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There isn’t anything funny about questioning the heart
Sep 23rd 2021
506
      Get a sense of humor, you joyless. insufferably malignant twit
Sep 24th 2021
510
lol
Sep 23rd 2021
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lmao
Sep 23rd 2021
503
I read this in the voice of Tupac in Juice…
Sep 23rd 2021
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No comment on Kyrie?
Sep 24th 2021
508
      Not really surprised
Sep 24th 2021
509
Add Brad Beal to the No Vaccine crew.
Sep 27th 2021
511
Good for him and the rest. They can all sit down from here on out.
Sep 28th 2021
517
Zion gotta shed some pounds or he's heading to Brandon Royville
Sep 27th 2021
512
Porter, Jr just got a 5 year 207 mill dollar max extension.
Sep 28th 2021
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I respect Denver going all in like this.
Sep 28th 2021
514
Yup. They recognize what they've got.
Sep 28th 2021
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right, didn't they give Gordon a deal too?
Sep 28th 2021
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Yep. They like their team, and they're paying to keep it together.
Sep 28th 2021
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      RE: Yep. They like their team, and they're paying to keep it together.
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           Not really, no.
Sep 28th 2021
525
He now has the 8th richest contract in NBA history and
Sep 28th 2021
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      RE: He now has the 8th richest contract in NBA history and
Sep 28th 2021
521
           Yes.
Sep 28th 2021
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They did a breakdown on his contract on ESPN.
Sep 28th 2021
524
Robin Lopez is doing his own research
Sep 28th 2021
523
Lmao!
Sep 29th 2021
526
My fellow Fresno + Treegang reprsentative nm
Sep 29th 2021
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yeah I low key cringe at some of these other dudes that barely completed...
Oct 04th 2021
529
andrew wiggins did his research.
Oct 04th 2021
528
I don't care how he got there, as long as he got the vaccine
Oct 04th 2021
530
RE: I don't care how he got there, as long as he got the vaccine
Oct 05th 2021
534
***face palm***
Oct 05th 2021
539
Luckily, he still gave a big and totally dumbassed public rant.
Oct 05th 2021
535
LOL what does he think epi pens are made of?
Oct 05th 2021
536
i DAMN NEAR CHOKED
Oct 06th 2021
545
Yeah, of course he goes and says more really dumb shit
Oct 05th 2021
538
*stands in this lane*
Oct 05th 2021
537
empirical evidence shows that research >> fucking around >>>>>
Oct 06th 2021
546
Looking the current Pels roster, does Zion really try and rush back?
Oct 04th 2021
531
He shouldn't, no.
Oct 04th 2021
532
No sir
Oct 04th 2021
533
Suns don’t want to offer Ayton the max…
Oct 05th 2021
540
Their owner is gonna fuck this up, lol.
Oct 06th 2021
541
I sorta get the hesitation but Aytons gonna get paid
Oct 06th 2021
542
      Phoenix needs to follow Denver.
Oct 06th 2021
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      100% agree
Oct 06th 2021
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      Ayton is going to get the Max. It just might not be with the Suns.
Oct 07th 2021
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Dubs looking like they might be a problem. only preseason, and only
Oct 07th 2021
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they got some active rim runners now.
Oct 08th 2021
549

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1. "All indications are lots of S&Ts and player movement "
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2. "Chris Paul and other stuff"
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It's going to be interesting with Paul. You can see him wanting and expecting another max deal, but he's 36 with LOTS of injuries. It's clear that he sure as shit helped the Suns make it to the Finals, but I don't know what other contender would sign him to a long-term deal, except, like, the Knicks if they miss out on Lillard and everyone else. Cp3 would probably be best off taking a pay cut to stay on the Suns or take less money to play on the Lakers or something.


Now, of course I'm mostly interested in the Warriors. Priority #1 is resigning Steph this off-season so that he doesn't enter the open market next year. So they'll offer him another supermax, which he'll deserve. There's some pipe-dreams out there about him giving the team a hometown discount, but it won't happen and it shouldn't anyway. Besides, I don't know if it would make much of a difference, cap-wise, considering all the other deals/players we've got signed.

Pundits have been saying that the Warriors NEED to package Wiseman and the picks and go after a big free agent in a sign and trade. They're wrong. They ONLY exceptions would be if you could get Kawhi or Dame, but neither of those are happening. Otherwise, the Warriors are going to need a young, athletic big like Wiseman, especially since we're in the same conference as guys like Jokic, Ayton, and Davis. So trading Wiseman and the picks for someone like Ben Simmons would be a waste.

In terms of depth, two good first round picks can go a long way. Oubre should really except a coming off the bench role and re-sign. Then the team really needs to pursue a David West veteran-type. If that all can happen, I think the Warriors would be in good shape.

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5. "They have to pay CP3. They don't really have a choice, imo."
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>It's going to be interesting with Paul. You can see him
>wanting and expecting another max deal, but he's 36 with LOTS
>of injuries. It's clear that he sure as shit helped the Suns
>make it to the Finals, but I don't know what other contender
>would sign him to a long-term deal, except, like, the Knicks
>if they miss out on Lillard and everyone else. Cp3 would
>probably be best off taking a pay cut to stay on the Suns or
>take less money to play on the Lakers or something.

CP3 so perfectly matches what the Suns want to do, and clearly he has terrific chemistry with both Booker and Ayton. It's gonna be realllllllly hard to max a guy at his age. Even coming off the performance he just gave in the playoffs (something like 23 and 9 in the last three rounds). So Phoenix would definitely have to stop and think about it.

If I'm CP3 and I really want to stay in Phoenix to remain in contention (because you're right, no real contender if paying CP3 a max deal)... I ask for one of two things:

1. a big money 2-year deal. If it doesn't work out, CP3 can still vet min deal with a contender for a year or two until he's completely washed.
2. an extended non-max deal with guaranteed money but paid out over, like, 5 years. This would allow Phoenix to stretch their money so they can pursue a couple of supporting bench pieces in free agency a little more easily, so the roster would be better and it would give CP3 the knowledge that he's getting paid until he's over the hill, lol.

If I'm Phoenix, I'd be stoked about #2. It wouldn't cost much up front, and paying him down the line is Future Person Problems-- it's also likely a pretty tradeable deal if it doesn't work out if the annual cost is fairly reasonable. #1 would be great for the long term cap flexibility-- if it doesn't work out next year, he's an awesome expiring contract-- but also feels like it'd have the potential to create a little more uncertainty about the Suns' core, and the chemistry was just so good this season. I wouldn't want to fuck that up.

Ultimately, and I know a couple of people here would kill me for saying it... but they're the Suns. They don't have a title. They hadn't made the Finals in nearly three decades. And there's no replacement for CP3 on the market-- there just isn't. So whatever he asks for, you probably just have to pay. Regardless of age, regardless of what happens years down the line. Because without CP3 next season, you're in Perennial Six Seed At Best Mode for the rest of Booker/Ayton's deals. And losing CP3 and getting worse likely wouldn't make Booker and Ayton super happy. So keep everyone happy. Pay now, contend now, worry later.

And if people adamantly say "no! get rid of him!"... then they need to pitch the realistic plan that gets Phoenix to stay in contention without him. I don't think one exists.


>Otherwise, the Warriors are going to need a young, athletic
>big like Wiseman, especially since we're in the same
>conference as guys like Jokic, Ayton, and Davis. So trading
>Wiseman and the picks for someone like Ben Simmons would be a
>waste.

The concern about Wiseman is precisely about the Jokic/Ayton/Davis matchups in the immediate future, though. He's still very clearly a project, and with the core all above 31, you've got to think the Warriors want to contend for titles, like, in the next two years, realistically. If you think Wiseman is Ayton-level good in the next two years, you keep him, for sure. But if you don't?

I think dealing him for Simmons in that scenario is really interesting-- especially because I trust the Warriors waaaaaay more than the Sixers in terms of getting the most out of his considerable skill set. I mean, shit, the Warriors have turned Andrew Wiggins into a not-horrible player. Imagine what they can do with an All-Defense All-Star if they can give him renewed confidence and teach him to be not awful at FT shooting. Dray could do wonders with Simmons.

That said, I'm also a guy who thinks switchable big players like Dray and Simmons have way more value than drop coverage bigs. Especially in the playoffs. So I'm admittedly biased. But man, if all Simmons needs is a change of scenery and he gets to the right spot? It's gonna be huge for that team.

I also don't really know who I love for the Warriors with the picks. Like, Bouknight and Duarte, maybe, if they're both there? Think that'd probably be the best case scenario? There just won't be too many win-now pieces on the board. The future value for a bad team is way higher than the immediate in this year's draft outside of the top 5.





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3. "lots of decent free agent options at PG"
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https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/point-guard/

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4. "Dame for Khris and Jrue. Who says no?"
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Haven't looked at contracts or any of that, but if that was offered as the principle deal, who says no, and who should?

IMO that would be just about the best deal Portland would get.

  

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6. "Milwaukee should 100% say no to that."
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A 20-6-5 wing who shoots over 40% from 3 and isn't a total liability on defense is such a commodity in today's NBA. As is an 18-5-6 PG who has the potential to lock down the opposing PG.

Dame's the best player of the three, obviously... but I'm not convinced that a Dame-DiVincenzo-Tucker-Giannis-Lopez lineup is better and more balanced on both ends than a Jrue-DiVincenzo-Middleton-Giannis-Lopez lineup. And since they just won the title, no reason to rock the boat imo. Run it back til the wheels fall off.

I also don't think Portland would do that either, truthfully, because Jrue-CJ-Powell-Middleton-Nurkic or whatever doesn't have a great deal of upside. Middleton and Jrue are perfectly positioned as great second and third options on a title contender... I don't think either of them is the top guy on a contender. Much more value in a system than on their own.

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7. "Need to add McCollum in there contracts wise"
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and if I was the Bucks, I'd still say no. If it ain't broke...

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8. "I believe Dame said he wants to go to Philly or NYK."
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11. "the Bucks would be stupid to say yes"
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9. "I hope Warriors get Simmons and ship off Draymond."
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I'm not that high on Simmons as a whole, but as a Draymond replacement he'd be an upgrade. He could play anything from the 3 to the small ball 5, great D (pause), better scorer, can run offense through him like Draymond (Simmons is a better decision maker with the ball), etc.

If you have him and Dray on the same team though, he loses a lot of his value, as you now have another non-shooter clogging up the offense and not doing much off the ball.

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10. "I disagree re: Dray and Ben. "
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First off, I think Dray gives a lot of value off ball, because he's such a dynamic passer and playmaker, and he reads the game at such a high level. Yes, you can't have him just camp out at the 3 point line, because he won't space defenses, but the Warriors don't do that with him much anyway. Opposing teams can't just let Dray catch and operate at his own pace in the half court, because Dray's too good at finding the opportunities for himself and others.

Second, the Warriors play one of the fastest paces in the NBA, and Ben Simmons is elite, full stop, in transition. They don't need to do much settling into half court sets with freaks like Ben and Dray running the court, with their size and live dribble passing. They'd be a top 3 offense minimum with Ben and Dray running the break.

Third, Dray seems to me to be the *perfect* mentor for a guy like Ben. If a torch is to be passed, and I agree it's a good idea for the Warriors to plan on that happening, then why not learn from the absolute best?

Fourth, the Warriors helped Andrew Wiggins be a non-negative impact player-- and helped him shoot the best percentage of his career. If anyone can help Ben become a not-awful shooter, it's probably them. Furthermore, the spacing Ben would see from being on a floor with Steph and Klay would open all sorts of dribble drive opportunities for him. The offense clogging isn't much of a concern if two of the players are the best 3 point shooters on the planet.

Fifth, if they trade Dray, they're not trading Wiseman, and I definitely don't think a Ben and Wiseman lineup is better than a Ben and Dray lineup.

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24. "crazy that this is about a #1 overall"
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>the Warriors helped Andrew Wiggins be a non-negative
>impact player

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30. "and that some people don't want Simmons, another #1 overall!"
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One that's made an All-Star team and an All-Defense team at that!

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12. "IT'S THE MOST WON-DERFUL TIIIIME OF THE YEAR!"
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Bulls fans are itching to see what AK does.

We need a PG and supposedly the AK and Eversley are going to be real aggressive in the next month.

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13. "i wouldn't be mad if they threw a bunch of money at lonzo."
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a lonzo/zach/vuc core should have us competitive. can't ask for much more at this point. be competitive and start to build a winning culture and hope to get lucky with draft picks (especially from europe considering AK's ties) and/or free agents.

no idea what to think about pat williams. i can see him being a borderline all star if he breaks out of his shell, but he may not be that kind of guy. hard to tell considering he was one of the younger (youngest?) players in the league last season. his only glaring weakness is his passiveness. maybe that is something that can be fixed with experience.

  

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17. "RE: i wouldn't be mad if they threw a bunch of money at lonzo."
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>a lonzo/zach/vuc core should have us competitive. can't ask
>for much more at this point. be competitive and start to build
>a winning culture and hope to get lucky with draft picks
>(especially from europe considering AK's ties) and/or free
>agents.

+ Kyle Lowry - no chance, cost too much.
+ Lonzo Ball - S&T w/ Lauri, but he'd have to agree to sign with the Pelicans. Plus we couldn't sign Theis and would maybe have to let Thad and/or Satoransky go.
+ Spencer Dinwiddie
+ Dennis Schroder

I'd be cool with any of these guys. ANYBODY that can set up the offense.

>no idea what to think about pat williams. i can see him being
>a borderline all star if he breaks out of his shell, but he
>may not be that kind of guy. hard to tell considering he was
>one of the younger (youngest?) players in the league last
>season.

There are SOOO many factors that go into play with how a young player develops. And with the previous regime, I always had very low expectations whenever we had a draft pick. Every year Paxson would come out with the excuse, "We don't know how good our guys are." That led me to believe that even if a kid WAS good, the Bulls didn't have the infrastructure in place to really help players reach their full potential.

I don't know enough about how this new Bulls front office works. It was great seeing both Williams and Donovan at a playoff game, so it seems like he's bought in. Physically Williams has all the tools to be at the very least a starter in this league. His defense alone does that. My thing is, kinda like Giannis, we may not know how good he is until maybe his 3rd or 4th year. Can/will the Bulls wait that long?

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14. "Pelicans have offered Ingram and picks for Dame…"
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https://twitter.com/LandonBuford/status/1418032906056970247?s=20

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15. "That seems like a bad trade for both teams."
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Lillard and Zion won't be enough to do anything serious out West and I'm assuming that would be a ton of picks the Pelicans would have to deal to swing that trade. Mortgaging the future of the franchise just to potentially languish and moderately improve in the present doesn't seem that prudent. I'm guessing if this rumor is real, David Griffin feels some pressure to try and improve the team immediately while Zion is there.

On the Portland side, making that move would pretty much signal that the franchise is waving the white flag and would be in rebuild mode since Ingram and picks isn't nearly enough of a return for Lillard.


*edit*

I should note that I didn't click the link, so there could be other details that I missed, such as a third team being involved. IMO, a three team trade is going to be necessary to swing a trade involving Lillard since his contract is relatively huge.

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19. "To be fair, the Pels have a *lot* of first round picks."
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11 in the next seven seasons, at least. And while most of them will be low-first round because they're largely from Milwaukee and the Lakers... all it takes is one Giannis injury or AD injury to suddenly have an extra swing in the lottery. This is also assuming they don't sign-and-trade Lonzo, which would likely net them at least one additional pick.

I think Ingram and, say, five picks? That'd be a hell of a package for Dame. You're right that Portland wouldn't be in contention, but they aren't going to be able to deal Dame and stay in contention, that's a lost cause. May as well cash in as hard as you can on draft stock if you're sending him out.

As for New Orleans, yes, Zion and Dame also aren't enough to be in contention... but it'd definitely make New Orleans a *lot* more attractive to free agents. And, as you alluded to above, it'd keep Zion happy, which is the Pelicans' priority #1. Plus, they'd still have another six first round picks in the next seven seasons, so it wouldn't be a complete mortgage of the future.

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25. "Ingram and five 1sts would be an incredible haul"
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that would be impossible to pass up

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16. "Did Kawhi opt out?"
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18. "He said back during the season that he would…"
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only because it makes sense to…but he hasn’t, yet.

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20. "Lakers need a PG."
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I hope it's not CP3.

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21. "I'm not a fan of the Westbrook rumors either"
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a trade for Dame would be great but I don't see that happening. DRose maybe???

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22. "I hope it is Westbrook."
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the drama that will ensue when LeBron grabs a rebound that hinders westbricks triple-double chances..

*birdman gif*



>a trade for Dame would be great but I don't see that
>happening. DRose maybe???

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23. "RE: Lakers need a PG."
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>I hope it's not CP3.

I hate CP3 too but I think he’d be a good fit

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26. "if it comes down to Russ or CP3 give me Russ a million times"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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27. "I'd think I'd rather have Lonzo back than overpay for either"
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31. "While you're right, I think Zo is gonna get a big paycheck this summer."
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If the Lakers really want a PG that's Zo-quality or better, they're just gonna need to open that wallet.

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28. "I think Lowry would be a good fit"
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29. "Sources: Bradley Beal Considering Trade Request Before NBA Draft"
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2946317-sources-bradley-beal-considering-trade-request-before-nba-draft

"Beal does not have a proverbial list of preferred destinations, but it was mentioned by multiple sources that he would welcome joining teams such as Boston, Golden State, Miami or Philadelphia—although Beal requesting a trade would all but guarantee an expansive bidding war across the league. The number of potential destinations and interested suitors could span a significant portion of the NBA."

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32. "Apparently Siakam wants off the Raptors? That’s… a choice."
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Not sure how many teams would tailor so much of their offense around what Siakam does as Toronto has done.

If the Raptors could get Simmons for Siakam and future picks, that’d be such a colossal grand fucking slam for Toronto.

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33. "We have a trade, folks…"
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https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1419757449448394752?s=20

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34. "Seems win win "
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Pelicans get out from under 2 bad contracts, get a good player in JV, and only move down 7 spots. They’ll spend to keep Zion happy I’m sure.

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35. "I didn't think they could do anything until the new league year in Augus..."
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________________________________________
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36. "can’t be finalized til August 5th"
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.

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37. "Pelicans have Ball's bird rights"
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So why free up all this money for a guy that you would have had no problem getting anyway?

I think this is for Lowry.

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38. "Oh I think they're out of the Lonzo business."
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All the smoke for Lonzo or Lowry to the Lakers never made sense - they both want to get paid, and as you said - the Pelicans have Lonzo's bird rights so why do this?

It's definitely to get a core of Zion/Lowry/Ingram + whatever else - they do have a lot of assets. They just freed up what, like 34 million? It was stupid of them to trade for and then IMMEDIATELY extend Steven Adams, but then again - better to fix the mistake instead of thinking it's a sunken cost I guess.

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39. "what do the Lakers get out of this?"
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44. "What does his post have to do with the Lakers?"
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48. "RE: What does his post have to do with the Lakers?"
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Adrian Wojnarowski
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BREAKING: Memphis is finalizing a trade to send Jonas Valanciunas and 2021 Nos. 17 and 51 picks to New Orleans for Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe, 2021 picks Nos. 10 and 40 and a protected 2022 first-round pick via the Lakers, sources tell ESPN.

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49. "Oh dear god. We got Anthony Davis, two years ago."
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51. "I was just asking question about the specifics of the Lakers'..."
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involvement in the trade, I didn't realize it was for a pick they already traded.

Calm down.

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52. "lol, What's with you telling everyone to calm down"
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Everyone is calm.

"oh dear lord" is some deadpan, facepalm shit.

It's not like I said OMG YOU FUCKING IDIOT HOW CAN YOU BE SO STUPID

Nobody is 1/10th as amped up as you seem to think they are when they interact with you.

  

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55. "I wasn't talking to "everyone" "
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58. "Oh dear god, I'm talking about your penchant for telling people"
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to calm down

That's your consistent go-to.


  

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43. "If they think Lonzo is cheaper than Lowry…"
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… then I think there’s a good shot they spend on Lonzo and pocket the rest for additional moves/pieces. Zion and Ingram both like Lonzo, and if they can get Lonzo for, say, 8 mil per year less than Lowry? I’d… strongly consider just keeping Lonzo.

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46. "Lowry isn't a great deal for them IMO."
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Better to resign Zo, and keep evwryone within the same window.

I know, veteran leadership and whatnot. But i think that can be had for far, far cheaper.

But Lowry does not get them a title, and I think this is the year BI takes that all star step and becomes a nightmare for other teams to deal with.

Price tag aside, i just don't see how he makes sense for this team.

He's a guy a good team pays to get over that hump and got a title. Miami, Philly, either LA team, Boston, these make sense. Young teams trying to break into the playoffs? I just don't see the value of a guy like him vs a guy like Lonzo from a bit picture standpoint.

  

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65. "Agreed. Lowry would need to be paired with someone else."
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And unless there are more moves ahead-- and maybe there are!-- then I don't really see the wisdom in bringing in Lowry unless your plan is to contend for a Top 4-5 seed in the west *next season.*

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45. "So they could sign someone else. "
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If they have his bird rights, they could sign someone else to fill other needs, and then either resogn him or sign and trade him.

There's no downside whatsoever to getting off a bad contract and clearing space, especially when you get a solid player like Jonas in the deal.

  

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136. "so you sayin they got Ball by the Birds? nm"
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41. "Steven Adams may not make sense on paper, but I don't trade him. "
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Valacuinas is nice but I think Adams was a better fit for the Pelicans.

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42. "They had serious paint crowding issues with Adams and Zion."
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Jonas can help space the floor better. Adams is a better defender, but he alone won’t make that defense better. They gotta resolve those offense issues first, and Jonas definitely helps there. Plus now they can get off that dreadful Bledsoe contract— and this year, the 10th and 17th picks really aren’t that different.

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47. "Definitely get the Bledsoe part and the spacing thing makes sense"
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but I don't feel like trading Adams is going to solve that....I think Adams is better suited to be the banger in the post, especially if Zion is going to be playing point bully.

Adams is Chuck Norris for me...like no one is hard fouling a team with Steven Adams on the floor....or in the stadium.

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50. "This has nothing to do with the trade"
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but with Bledsoe being considered dead weight by the Pelicans, I wonder how much he was holding the Bucks back the years he was on the team. To be somewhat fair to him, the change in point guard wasn't the only change the Bucks made to this year's championship team, so I guess it isn't truly possible to get an answer to that question.

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54. "Honestly, if the Bucks kept Brogdon and dumped Bledsoe earlier"
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they would have won LAST year.

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131. "I totally forgot he was on the Bucks."
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If memory serves me right, he had an injury that cut into his playing time with Milwaukee. Brogdon is a pretty good bucket maker. Would be nice to see if he manages to get on a better team than the dead in the water Pacers. The dude is pretty damn talented.

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53. "."
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56. "Jaxson Hayes involved in police incident…."
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https://amp.tmz.com/2021/07/28/nba-jaxson-hayes-arrested-hospitalized-alleged-violent-incident/?__twitter_impression=true

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57. "is there a chance the Pistons don't take Cade?"
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59. "May as well trade down if they don't "
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64. "Sure, if someone offered them something bonkers."
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Like, if OKC said Shai, the 6th pick, their 2022 first rounder, and Poku, lol. Or if Cleveland offered the 3rd pick, Okoro, Garland, and a future pick. Just imagine something where your first response is "that's crazy"-- and that's what it would take.

It's clear that they know what they have in the opportunity to draft Cade and what the value of a player like Cade would be to the league. So I doubt they move unless they can fleece someone.

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60. "Damn, we offered Shai and the #6 for the #1..."
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Detroit said nah.

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61. "wow..."
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>Detroit said nah.

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62. "I mean, is that real?"
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I saw someone say we're in the moment of misinformation from front offices.

Shai + 6 is actually a fair offer. And of course, OKC has to make a move at some point. But I can't see them getting rid of a guy who's a likely all star in the next 2 years with all the assets they have.

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63. "Shai's a restricted free agent after next season."
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So whichever team has him, OKC or Detroit, would have to commit to signing him to a max deal in the next calendar year. And Detroit simply isn't on the timeline where having someone like Shai on max money makes sense. Same goes for OKC, really, which is why I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to deal him for a top 4 pick in this draft-- or trade the #6 and Shai for Cade. (Or, as you said, use their assets to make moves, sign Shai to the max, and try to start genuinely pushing for playoff runs in the next 2ish years.)

I think it's a pretty fair deal... but it's not really a deal that makes sense for a team like Detroit that's looking realistically to be bad for at *least* another two seasons. And they have zero money on the books after 2022/23-- you can tell where their timeline is. They want to let Cade and the young core cook. And if they think Shai's upside is All-Star but Cade's upside is Top 10 in the NBA kinda guy... then the 6th pick in this draft just isn't enough of a sweetener imo. Detroit's looking for the highest potential possible dudes with their lotto picks-- that's why they gambled with guys like Hayes and Sekou when there were more NBA ready dudes available.

I just chatted with Jim from the Three Man Weave on a new NBA Draft episode of 2.1 Seconds to Madness (cheap plug), and we tried to name draft prospects of the last ten drafts that we'd definitely have taken before Cade. We settled on Zion and AD... and that's it. He's just such a special dude, so well-rounded, so elite at so many things, not bad at really anything.

And I love Shai-- and I agree, Shai can definitely be an All-Star once he's on a good team. But yeah, for Detroit, who isn't looking to truly make moves until three seasons from now (unless Cade absolutely crushes from Day 1, not impossible), you gotta go for the superstar upside.

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67. "wow..."
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>I just chatted with Jim from the Three Man Weave on a new NBA
>Draft episode of 2.1 Seconds to Madness (cheap plug), and we
>tried to name draft prospects of the last ten drafts that we'd
>definitely have taken before Cade. We settled on Zion and
>AD... and that's it.

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70. "By the way, worth noting here, as we did on the show..."
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... that *doesn't* mean Cade will be better than everyone else, obviously, lol. It just means, in terms of being a very high-floor, very high-ceiling prospect... he's at worst top 5 and probably top 3 of the last decade, because he just does so many things elitely and has very few gaps in his game, even at this young an age. He's like if you designed the ideal player for this era.

Maybe it doesn't pan out, maybe he gets hurt, maybe Detroit just totally fucking sinks him, lol, I mean, who knows from here? But that's the level of prospect entering the draft he is. His upside is definitely "superstar." And his downside is... still quite high.

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69. "That’s a good point regarding the timelines. "
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Having a transcendent talent on a rookie contract is far too great to pass up. I’m shocked Cade is that good according to you guys, but if that’s the case - they’d be INSANE to trade down.

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71. "As I mentioned above..."
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... it's just that the ceiling and floor are both so high. Like I said in the Justivity post, the best comparison I can make for Cade is "6'8 Ben Simmons who has alpha mentality and can shoot 40% from 3." Like, in the NBA, that's... a superstar. A franchise-changing dude.

He's not yet the defender Ben is... but Ben was a lousy defender in college, and Wiggins was a really good defender in college and a lousy one in the NBA, so who the fuck knows with that, lol. But an elite passer, great scorer at all levels, really good shooter, really good defender, hard worker, high motor guy, high IQ, really good rebounder due to effort, superb character, and big time leader who wants to take the big shots in the big moments. There aren't a lot of "here's the weakness" things with him-- and any nitpicks I *could* conjure can probably be dismissed due to (a) age and (b) him being by far the best player on a college team full of non-shooters. And unlike Anthony Edwards or Ben Simmons in similar scenarios, Cade dragged Oklahoma State to a 4 seed. Like... it's absurd how good he is and how great he can be.

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66. "Definitely feel you on the misinformation thing…"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/rumor-pistons-declined-shai-gilgeous-021211776.html

I’m not even surprised, if it’s true…just really like Shai. We just ain’t ready for a dude that’s about to get paid, yet. So, I can believe it. I’ve also read the same offer could be made to Cleveland for the 3 and that GMs are just saying that Shai is clearly available to be had.

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68. "Someone tweeted that the Lakers declined Kuz for Shai and #6"
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My deleted post above was because it took me a second to realize that I had to have fallen prey to a troll.

https://twitter.com/BrandonRahbar/status/1420443806663589890

Turns out, he's some credentialed OKC writer for a site called The Daily Thunder. I have no idea how credible that site is, if it's just a glorified personal blog or what.

But his reaction to the reactions to the trolling was "Eek. Sometimes I forget I’m a credentialed media member and beat reporter when I troll."

Personally, I think that still undermines his credibility as anything resembling a serious journalist, and makes him look like those fuckwits who create the youtube videos with dumb headlines like CONFIRMED DAMIAN LILLARD SIGNS WITH LEBRON TO THE LAKERS, LEBRON SAYS LAKERS WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

My guess is he's got a list of articles that are headlined as trade "rumors", which are in reality fictitious clickbait scenarios he just made up

  

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73. "Dudes been around for a good minute…"
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I like what he does, well enough. He called himself mocking the Twitter handles that do they kind of stuff, but I agree with you…he took some credibility away from what he does. Plus, it wasn’t even funny. I was just waiting for House of Hoops or something like that to Tweet that out and attribute it to him.

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72. "There's just such a big difference between the Top 4 and the rest. "
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Some would potentially argue the Top 3... and some maybe the Top 5, if you believe Scottie Barnes can shoot.

But yeah, that sixth pick, you're either looking at a high-ceiling, low-floor project or a relatively safe, non-star, starter-potential guy. Those top picks, you're looking at stars with much higher ceilings and floors.

And with Shai needing that max deal, yeah, I'm not shocked at all that they're trying to see if Shai and the 6 can get them into the top 3. Since Detroit and Houston aren't close, I'd be stunned if either of them bit... but Cleveland's 3rd pick is definitely intriguing. Not that they're actually close to winning, but they've got Garland, they've got Okoro, they've got Nance, they've got Allen. They could theoretically sign and trade Sexton (I'm sure they'll try) for somebody. I'm sure I can see them thinking, "If we had Shai, Garland, James Bouknight, Okoro, Nance, Allen, and a free agent, we can push for playoffs in 2 years, maybe even next year." (Do I think that would work? With Cleveland, I'm always skeptical, lol. But they wouldn't have signed Allen to that big contract unless they thought they weren't needing a massive rebuild.)

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74. "Damn…Buddy for Kuz and Harrell in the works…"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1420852216601186305?s=20

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75. "Nah we getting Westbrook. Shams beat Woj on this one"
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76. "Shams has a more recent tweet saying Westbrook"
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There's also a report about the Spurs being interested in Kuz for Dermar, though I don't know how a situation like that would work with Dermar being an FA.

If Westbrook is on the table, that's a moot point though.

  

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77. "Yep…"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1420858110177120257?s=20

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79. "LMAO Woj backtracking after the Shams scoop"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1420859675445276681

He's right though.

The Buddy shit has been cooking for a minute.

The Westbrook thing was, what, a week ago? It came and went and the numbers vs asset situation looked like that just wasn't happening.

But yeah I like this.

Hopefully we can get something back in a deal for Schroder, but that hard caps us.

I say let him walk in snag some shooters on vet minimum deals

  

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78. "I AM SPEECHLESS 😶…"
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NOT!!!!! My guy playing at the crib!!! God is good!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

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80. "? What happened"
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81. "Russ…going home to play in LA…I’m elated!"
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83. "Is it done? "
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It looks like this is happening but I can't find a confirmation that this has been completed.

  

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But the deal is supposed to be Westbrook for Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, and next year's first.

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86. "... I'd rather have Buddy and KCP. *darts out of post*"
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88. "Better run fast lmao"
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92. "Lol"
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94. "Don't I know it, lol."
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There's only one ball! If they wanna try and stagger it where they give Bron and/or AD more rest, and let Russ absolutely go full-blown "score 50" mode in those games, then beautiful, I get the plan. I just don't really know what the fit is between them all playing together when your best offensive players shoot, like, 30%, 30%, and 33% from 3-- and they're trading the best 3 point shooter they had last season. When they were a bottom third of the league shooting team from distance.

Meanwhile, a lineup with Bron, AD, Buddy, KCP...

... yeah, I should just run. lol.

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98. "we didn't have great 3 point shooting in the bubble, healthy Bron & AD....."
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>There's only one ball! If they wanna try and stagger it where
>they give Bron and/or AD more rest, and let Russ absolutely go
>full-blown "score 50" mode in those games, then beautiful, I
>get the plan. I just don't really know what the fit is between
>them all playing together when your best offensive players
>shoot, like, 30%, 30%, and 33% from 3-- and they're trading
>the best 3 point shooter they had last season. When they were
>a bottom third of the league shooting team from distance.
>
>Meanwhile, a lineup with Bron, AD, Buddy, KCP...
>
>... yeah, I should just run. lol.

+ any 3 NBA players = chip.

Russ allows "load management" for both of those guys

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102. "KCP, who shows up every third night. "
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Oh boy, much rather have him than Russ.

We'll get some shooters in FA.

I'm not saying this gets us a title. We have deficiencies that will need to be addressed, and we'll be capped to death for the next two years.

But we have the talent to compete with anyone, even without the analytics circle jerk.

And we're going to be an absolute nightmare for opposing teams in transition.

  

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105. "I agree with all that."
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I just really like Buddy and what his fit would be. It just fits more what I personally would do to construct a roster around two mega stars. But there’s no denying the talent with Russ there.

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111. "Yeah I'm just seeing a few too many hot analytic takes on this"
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Talent for talent, we're arguably the most top heavy team in the league.

That accounts for an awful lot.

Other teams have significant advantages though, i.e, BK being able reup with Joe Harris, and having assets to retool if necessary.

Everyone there is tradeable and they're largely fleshed out already, so we've got a gap to close with nothing but our good name to do it with.

Fortunately, that good name is the Lakers and Lebron. I'll take those L's any day.

I think this is a deal you make 100 times out of 100, and figure out the rest.

The fact that this doesn't hard cap us arguably evens out the drawbacks though, because we're bound to get a few vets on the cheap who can shoot.

Plus we have THT and schroder who could each be dealt in S&T deals for shooters, and if that hard caps us, we at least fill those needs.

Now if we sign Derozan somehow.... i dunno.

  

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115. "I think Russ easily makes you all a top 3 team right away."
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Make no mistake with what I said above, nothing I said should translate to "Lakers will be bad/worse" or anything like that. They are obviously better today with Russ than without Russ. And yes, even with my personal preferences, if the Kings are pussyfooting around with a Hield deal, but you actually have the Wizards ready to go, you do the fucking deal. No question.

I just have mild concerns about the shooting against the other best teams in the country, who will invariably go under screens in the playoffs against the Lakers, and who will be able to shoot against the Lakers' perimeter defenders for the most part.

And I personally think Buddy + better supporting pieces makes for a more versatile Lakers roster while *still* being the second top heaviest team in the world. I think there'd be more flexibility, more obvious fit, still massive talent differential between them and anyone else in the West, etc. But again, that's just me. And as I mentioned above, Russ definitely brings a lot to the table if the goal is to load manage Bron and/or AD during the regular season-- and I have to imagine that's a big part of why they targeted him specifically, as he's an iron man.

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138. "strictly on the court you’re probably right, but i don’t care"
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i’m gonna have a lot of fun rooting for next year’s team

  

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99. "I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to make this trade?"
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Russ is due 44 mil this coming season. What are they possibly trading besides Kuzma?

  

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100. "They’re gonna trade *cue Oldman in The Professional*"
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101. "RE: I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to make this trade?"
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>Russ is due 44 mil this coming season. What are they possibly
>trading besides Kuzma?

I'm sure if they can package enough players, the dollars will balance out.

My glaring issue with this trade is that the Lakers will be in the deepest depths of luxury tax hell with LeBron, Anthony Davis, and Westbrook all in that purple and gold.

The Lakers have to win at least one championship for this trade to worth it all, no?

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125. "Don't like the move"
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Nothing against Westbrook...he's an amazing talent. I just don't like the fit. I would have preferred the Buddy Hield trade as well. Will be interesting to see how Vogel manages the egos of this Big 3.

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82. "This draft is going to be ridiculous."
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This shit is about to explode

  

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84. "Curious where Bradley ends up"
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87. "REPORT: He's staying in DC."
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Via @ThompsonScribe.

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91. "👍🏾"
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130. "I'm curious"
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how gutted would the Trailblazers be if they tried to pair Lilliard with Beal. Beal is making in the mid 30's per year, but he only has two years left on his contract, so the Blazers wouldn't be making a huge commitment in terms of total value for Beal's contract.

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132. "Since Beal says he's committed to staying in DC..."
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... and since DC looks committed to trying to keep him happy, I'd imagine it'd take more assets than Portland should be willing to give up to get him there.

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217. "Assuming the Dinwiddle deal is final"
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He's a good running mate for Beal, but I do think Beal will get tired of having to work his tail off just for Washington to barely sniff getting into the post-season. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to walk in the middle of the season.

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89. "Ricky Rubio to Cleveland, Taurean Prince to Minnesota."
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BIGGEST TRADE OF THE DAY!!

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90. "sixers tryna move simmons by tonight. warriors turned down this deal:"
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1420844815990857734
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76ers are asking the Warriors for Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, No. 7 and No. 14 picks and two future first round picks in a Ben Simmons trade, per
@PompeyOnSixers


Warriors declined that offer.
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i still think he ends up on the dubs because rich paul wants him there.

  

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95. "WOW…that’s a lot!!!"
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96. "Lmao. Philly management drunk early"
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>https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1420844815990857734
>-----
>76ers are asking the Warriors for Andrew Wiggins, James
>Wiseman, No. 7 and No. 14 picks and two future first round
>picks in a Ben Simmons trade, per
>@PompeyOnSixers
>
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>Warriors declined that offer.
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>i still think he ends up on the dubs because rich paul wants
>him there.

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97. "GSW's right to do so. That's too much for a guy who wants to leave."
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Now, do I think GSW should counter with Wiggins, 7, 14, and two future 1sts? Sure. I'd even entertain the idea of Wiseman, 7, and two future 1sts.

But all that? For a guy who vocally wants outta town? Nah. I'd love to see Simmons on the Warriors, I think he'd be great... but nah.

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116. "not only does he wanna leave he prolly wants to go to the warriors lol."
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bob myers on the phone like 'yeah thats cute...let me know when to send ben his flight information'.

  

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103. "Sixers acting like they sending out Jokic AND Murray lol"
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106. "the 2 extra future firsts is asking too much"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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113. "Yeah, no way the Warriors make that deal"
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If you're going to give up all of that, it'd be for like a healthy-ish Kawhi.

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93. "Shamet to Phoenix…"
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What is happening????? Lol
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1420854039638650882?s=20

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104. "You know, I'm betting THT gets dealt in a S&T for a shooter"
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I can't see paying him with Russ on the team.

I wonder if that winds up the play for Buddy?

Buddy makes too much for a straight up swap.

I have to think that there are other deals in the pipeline

  

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107. "WHY NOT?!"
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this is going to be magnificent yall. dont overthink it.
Lebron + AD + Russ

as ever health is our only enemy

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108. "Laker Nation…"
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as the lone delegate from Russepotamia, I look forward to us working together.

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109. "Go to work, Sam…"
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https://twitter.com/SIChrisMannix/status/1420886123648258048?s=20

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110. "*Sly grin*"
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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112. "Also: I expect this to be a W for the Wizards. "
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I've said it for the last two seasons: Kuz is probably a player, but that won't happen here.

I think he and Trez will have quality seasons this year. They'll have room to work. Worst case, they tread water and are right where they are.

Beal is a monster and entering his prime. They could fuck around and still build something around him.

  

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114. "Love Brad, man…"
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dude is a pure hooper. They must have made him some promises regarding the future and what they could put around him.

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117. "I like seeing a guy say "hey, this is my home. Please keep me here.""
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And Beal certainly is one of those dudes.

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118. "Spacing is an issue but Bron/AD/Russ? Ok!"
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119. "it'll be a issue in the playoffs. they'll have a wonderful regular seaso..."
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still the team to beat in the west though.

  

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120. "Agreed on both fronts."
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121. "I wonder if DeRozan"
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would be interested in being a 6th man at a reasonable price tag...

  

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122. "he won't help spacing and THT can do everything he can at this point"
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________________________________________
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124. "According to basketball-reference.com"
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DeRozan was paid $27 mil last year. Since I'm assuming the Lakers will be in luxury tax hell with this recent trade, the front office would have to ask DeRozan to take a severe pay cut to fit on the Lakers. IMO, that would be too severe for DeRozan's interest's.

Assuming things don't work out this offseason with the Trailblazers, I wouldn't be shocked if Carmelo ends up with the Lakers since he's been taking paycuts the past two seasons now.

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139. "Not happening. "
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140. "Derozan shoots worse from 3 than Russ, I don’t know why people…"
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are so high on him

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126. "it's Mac McClung's team now bruh"
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127. "Just hope we can get him enough help"
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128. "me too."
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Bron is the perfect player to defer to Mac, but definitely need a couple quality 3 and D guys for when Mac gets doubled and has to kick out.































































































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129. "Lol,,nice"
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134. "Who is AD's backup? "
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135. "probably Keef"
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________________________________________
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123. "Utah sending Derrick Favors to OKC…"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1421079624092733447?s=20

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133. "Otto Porter is seeking the MLE…"
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1421197940765384709?s=20

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137. "could be an interesting Laker piece"
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142. "He is Elijah Price, aka Mr.Glass. "
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In the last three seasons, he played 56,14, and 28 games.

He is offensively skilled, and he can hit the three, but he is
a huge liability on defense.

DNB: Do not buy.

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149. "that's why he would be cheap genius..."
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>In the last three seasons, he played 56,14, and 28 games.
>
>He is offensively skilled, and he can hit the three, but he
>is
>a huge liability on defense.
>
>DNB: Do not buy.

with the salary cap space we have left (or lack thereof) pretty much anybody we get at this point will be a gamble in some regard

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141. "So Denver and Utah will dominate the West next season."
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I don’t get the Lakers. I really don’t. They never really go after
what they need. The acquisition of Westbrook is up there with
the Gary Payton/Malone and Howard/Nash pickups, and those
teams suffered due to having too many pieces that needed
the ball in order to be effective.

Westbrook is a ball dominant guard, who can’t shoot, is still
a turnover machine, and he isn’t a good defender. The amount
of points that the wizards allowed last season at the guard position
was insane.

He is a good guy, and gives his all as a player, but lacks the IQ
and fundamentals to truly help a team.

Bron is old. AD is injury prone, and Westbrook is one dimensional, and the
roster is depleted.

All the lakers had to do was be patient. Randle, Ingram, Ball, Hart, Clarkson.
That would have been their big 3, and two excellent sixth men.



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143. "RE: So Denver and Utah will dominate the West next season."
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>I don’t get the Lakers. I really don’t. They never really
>go after
>what they need. The acquisition of Westbrook is up there with
>the Gary Payton/Malone and Howard/Nash pickups, and those
>teams suffered due to having too many pieces that needed
>the ball in order to be effective.
>
>Westbrook is a ball dominant guard, who can’t shoot, is
>still
>a turnover machine, and he isn’t a good defender. The
>amount
>of points that the wizards allowed last season at the guard
>position
>was insane.
>
>He is a good guy, and gives his all as a player, but lacks the
>IQ
>and fundamentals to truly help a team.

Yeah, he’s basically Dellevadova. Just tries hard. That’s it. Otherwise a scrub.

>Bron is old. AD is injury prone, and Westbrook is one
>dimensional, and the
>roster is depleted.

Averages a triple double every year......”one dimensional”. Lol.

>All the lakers had to do was be patient. Randle, Ingram, Ball,
>Hart, Clarkson.
>That would have been their big 3, and two excellent sixth men.

Yeah, it’s a damn shame they went and won that chip instead of being a perennial 8 seed.

  

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144. "He gets you stats. He puts fans in the seats. "
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However, he doesn’t get you wins, and is a liability in the clutch.

Durant moved away from him. Harden moved away from him.

I love AD, but he isn’t a true big. His body can’t handle banging in the paint.

If the lakers can find a way to switch the brains of AD and Westbrook, they will
be the greatest in the world. AD is a guard trapped in a big man’s body and Russ
is a big man trapped in a guard’s body.

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145. "11 playoff appearances, 4 conf. finals, 1 NBA finals"
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there’s guys out there who put up stats on bad teams.

He puts up stats on good teams.

  

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146. "you can't be one of the best playmakers in the league"
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and have a low bball IQ

  

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157. "The Malone/Payton Lakers dominated until injuries."
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147. "Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes"
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https://twitter.com/MarkSchanowski/status/1421672953264099333

Watching NBA TV’s free agency special. Well respected
@ChrisBHaynes reports unless there’s a major “hiccup”, sources tell him Lonzo Ball intends to work out a contract with the Bulls. Pelicans are going hard after free agent PG Kyle Lowry.

*signing to an offer sheet.

GOOD.

  

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148. "This acquisition and the drafting of Ayo makeup for the horrible"
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trades they made last season.

Lonzo brings a good demeanor, high iq, excellent passing, shooting,
,and solid defense to the team. The only question mark with
him is his health. He picks up injuries here and there at times.
There weren’t major injuries, but they kept him out of the lineup.
And with the Lakers he missed a lot of games.

The future of the Bulls perimeter is set.

PG: Ball
SG: Ayo
SF: Williams

Just got to build up the front court later on down the road.

Coby and Thad off the bench as super-subs.


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159. "LMAO"
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>The future of the Bulls perimeter is set.
>
>PG: Ball
>SG: Ayo
>SF: Williams

https://digife.com

  

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160. "AYO>>>>>>>>>>>>>LAVINE"
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150. "RE: Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes"
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>https://twitter.com/MarkSchanowski/status/1421672953264099333
>
>Watching NBA TV’s free agency special. Well respected
>@ChrisBHaynes reports unless there’s a major “hiccup”,
>sources tell him Lonzo Ball intends to work out a contract
>with the Bulls. Pelicans are going hard after free agent PG
>Kyle Lowry.

unless he's strictly going for the highest bidder I can't see 35y/o Lowry going to a rebuilding situation like the Pels

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151. "RE: Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes"
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He got his ring— he should live it up

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152. "RE: Bulls signing* Lonzo according to Chris Haynes"
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>He got his ring— he should live it up

plus he’s coming off a max contract so he’s made his money too, it really comes down to what he wants to do.

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153. "Just as a b-ball fan, I’d love to see him in Philly"
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Hometown, went to college there, comes back to try to help the Sixers get over the hump. He’s what they need too, assuming he’s still got it.

  

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154. "right"
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155. "Which is why I believe the rumors about him to Miami, lol."
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There, he can contend to some degree *and* live it up.

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158. "...and I know it's all just chatter until something happens..."
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but, I've been seeing all over the place that the Heat are seriously looking to reunite Kyle and Demar...Kyle with an S&T and signing Demar to the full MLE.

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156. "If the Pels let Lonzo get away *and* miss on Lowry..."
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... they are in serious, serious trouble re: Zion's desire to stay.

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161. "Lowry and Zion's timelines don't matchup anyway"
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162. "Lowry and Zion's timelines don't matchup anyway"
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163. "Zion's timeline is right TODAY...you have him taking some steps?"
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.

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164. "I don't see a 35y/o with a ring voluntarily going to a 30 win team built..."
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around someone who is barely legal drinking age

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165. "lol right. If Zion wants to win now, Pels gotta help him get there."
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Ingram's old enough. Jonas is old enough. Zion is already an All-Star and should take another leap this year. They need a PG and they need shooters.

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168. "does any point guard make the Pelicans a contender in 2 years? Do you..."
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see Kyle Lowry being a major factor beyond 2 years? I'm a huge Lowry fan and I don't.

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177. "For the Pels, the goal isn't to win a title in the next two years."
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The goal is to be a firm playoff team in the next two years and keep Zion happy so he signs an extended deal. They know Lowry isn't enough to dethrone the Lakers or Nets or Bucks or whomever. But they've gotta show a commitment to spending on guys to show Zion he can win there.

Of course, they just let Lonzo go and whiffed on Lowry. Welp. lol.

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166. "*rubs hands*"
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167. "RE: *rubs hands*"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFd9g8UBGtY

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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175. "I'd be OVERJOYED. "
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176. "Lowry to Miami"
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https://twitter.com/Klow7/status/1422325852709216256?s=20

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169. "Lonzo to the Bulls per Woj.... 4/85"
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172. "Seems like Lonzo truly wanted nothing to do with NOLA"
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And I guess the Pels are high on Kira Lewis and NAW?

Pels gotta make a move for a starting guard (Sato ain't that) or this is going to be a horrible look.

  

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178. "They're fucked unless Kira takes a serious leap."
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And Kira, who I like a lot, isn't *that* kind of dude. Or at least shouldn't be considered the type of dude to be *that* good by this season.

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173. "Says something about the Bulls culture..."
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...that Lonzo "signed" the minute free agency opened.

I can't think of the last time we signed a free agent that fast.

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182. "Ben Wallace? "
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170. "Mike Conley returning to Utah"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422316787962728449?s=20

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416. "Best team in the west collapsed without him...earned every penny"
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again

>https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422316787962728449?s=20

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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171. "Let the AYO/Ball backcourt era began! "
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180. "Congrats??"
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<---
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174. "Jimmy Butler...bag acquired"
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https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1422318280421879812?s=20

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179. "CP3 to Phoenix: 4 years, 120 mil."
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186. "Four!"
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203. "Reply #5. They had no choice. "
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If your choices are "overpay" or "instantly go back to 7 seed territory," you have to overpay. Worry about the future later. Gotta try to win now.

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209. "Four more years of playoff injuries and dribbling out the shot clock."
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But with Lowery going to Miami and Conley goingback to Utah I guess they had no choice.Thats alot of money for a 36-37 year old not named Lebron

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227. "What were the terms?"
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2 years guaranteed + player option + team option?

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183. "Man, where is Dennis gonna go? "
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184. "New Orleans?"
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185. "his bag dried tf up"
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187. "Dude's gonna end up as Russ' back up again isnt he"
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211. "Lol ok then"
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188. "shams is killing woj this offseason."
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theres a new sheriff in town.

  

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189. "They usually net out to even at the end of it all though right?"
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I feel like Shams has jumped out to a lead the last few years

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193. "i think ESPN makes Woj hold things back for air"
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194. "iono but i feel like that lakers hield/westbrook shit changed everything..."
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niggas looking at shams like q.

'you got the juice now man'.

  

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214. "some people are still thinking a 3rd part of that trade may materialize "
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356. "when shams tells a us senator to eat shit then he can call me"
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until then I know who I ride with

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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190. "Dwight and Ariza are back. Cool. "
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191. "Goonball back"
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192. "Ellington too. That's a great start to FA for Lakers"
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195. "Knicks gave Fournier 4/78!"
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wow. money burns a hole in your pocket

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199. "Why?"
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202. "Because they're the Knicks. "
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204. "Yea, say no more"
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273. "to balance out 3 point shooting"
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don't like him as a defender and I don't think he is consistent but he can score.

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196. "I'll miss you, CarusoGOAT. Bulls - 4/37."
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Bulls fans, you'll love him.

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197. "oh snap!"
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Wasn't expecting this.

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198. "the moment d rose agreed with the knicks this came through"
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gonna guess the bulls had an offer on the table but a <10 million hometown discount wasn't going to happen.

glad rose got the extra cash but i wish he went to a contender.

as far as caruso goes, this seems like a good deal for the mle. i'll take his hustle, grimeyness and ability to hit an open shot over what we had previously (sato, garret temple).

  

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201. "This mean Dennis is staying?"
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Caruso will be missed.

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206. "He is a solid on ball defender. He hustles, "
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and he will provide veteran leadership. Plus he is
another solid ball handler.

This has Billy written all over it. He loves him some guards.
He knew he had to shore up that backcourt defense. Lavine and
White are shit defensively.

Ball- good defender
Ayo- good defender
Caruso- good defender
Thad - good defender
Williams- good defender.

We just need a goon defender at the 5. That Vucevic pickup was terrible.
I know they have to know that.

Vue-Thad-Williams-Zach-Ball....

Bench: White, Theis, Ayo, Caruso, Temple, Aminu, Brown

Hmm, not sure that will cut it....excited, but unsure.

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221. "I mean, Mac McClung made him expendable."
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only one bounce-y white guy per team. it's in the CBA.

  

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200. "Trevor Ariza and Dwight Howard are back to Lakers"
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Howard i like. Ariza i have no idea what he's done the last few years.

  

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205. "LeGM on that LeThanos -- Lakers putting it together"
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the BULLS are actually making moves.

Miami is getting some unexpected pick ups!!

BRING ON 2021-22 NBA!!!

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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207. "PJ to the Heat…2/15"
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208. "Devonte Graham to New Orleans "
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1422369148013879300?s=20

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210. "i like graham. hope he balls out in NO. "
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peace & blessings,

x.

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212. "Dinwiddie to Washington "
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1422411607523483655?s=20.

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213. "Steph set to sign 4 year, $215 million extension"
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Good. He deserves it. Do whatever it takes to keep him on GSW forever.

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215. "Miami WON, shit might be ugly in a couple of years but 76y/o Riles..."
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said fuckit

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220. "More teams should operate that way."
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If you're not immediately set up to win today, but you have pieces that you think are ready to win now, you spend now, try to contend now, and worry about the future later. Luxury tax bills can be covered, bad contract payments can be extended, but banners are forever.

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223. "I think he's trying to make up for not going all in on Harden last year"
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228. "Certainly a possibility. "
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216. "Jeff Green left Brooklyn"
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He signed a two year deal with Denver as per this link: https://twitter.com/malika_andrews/status/1422333439953485824

Pretty shrewd move on Denver's part. I think the Nets will miss him on both ends of the court.

Wonder why he left.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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218. "He was tired of signing 1 year deals…"
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The most the Nets could offer him was the tax payers MLE, for 5.9mil. Denver gave him a 2 year, 10mil deal with a player option in year 2. Blake only signed a 1 year deal, but he’s getting like 28 mil from Detroit, regardless.

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222. "RE: He was tired of signing 1 year deals…"
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>The most the Nets could offer him was the tax payers MLE, for
>5.9mil. Denver gave him a 2 year, 10mil deal with a player
>option in year 2. Blake only signed a 1 year deal, but he’s
>getting like 28 mil from Detroit, regardless.

right I didn't realize Detroit was still paying Blake that much, that's crazy

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219. "Drummond to the Sixers for 1 year. "
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That should help.

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224. "so basically he and Dwight trading spots, I'll take Dwight lol"
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229. "There's no contest."
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I don't really like either of them as serious minutes-earners, but if you need 12-15 minutes of rim protection for whatever reason, Dwight's your guy. Drummond is a net-negative player.

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225. "this is funny lol..."
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https://uproxx.com/dimemag/andre-drummond-nba-free-agency-sign-sixers-embiid/

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235. "He gotta back up his bully. Couldn’t be me"
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256. "jeez"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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226. "Miami Heat=Yuck"
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Los Angeles Lakers =Yuck

Get the retirement home and infirmary ward for all those old ass players. Lakers
are now the oldest team in the league.

Top 5 in the East

Bucks
Nets
Sixers
Hawks
Knicks

Top 5 in the West

Jazz
Nuggets
Clippers
Suns
Grizzlies





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231. "I'll bet you $500 the Lakers finish ahead of the Grizzlies next year. "
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Or $100. Whatever amount you're comfortable with.

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239. "LOL"
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No

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242. "Gotcha. You're just trolling. Say no more. "
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247. "No"
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You just asked me to bet you 500 dollars on a 5th seed. If you know anything
about betting, that wouldn’t be a smart bet.

The 5th seed is not far off from the 8th seed, so yes the lakers
could easily finish higher.

I just feel the grizzles have the better, more talent squad when it comes
youth, availability and their future.

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249. "Put it this way."
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If the Lakers could easily finish higher than the Grizzlies, because those seeds are so close... then that means the Grizzlies could easily finish higher than the Lakers, right?

Yet I'm very confident the Lakers will finish ahead of the Grizzlies regardless.

I'll give you 1.5 to 1 odds. If the Grizzlies finish ahead of the Lakers, I'll give you $150. If the Lakers finish ahead of the Grizzles, you'll give me $100. That's fair, right? Assuming you're serious in thinking that the Grizzlies are a 5 seed and the Lakers are an 8 seed. If that's the case, you're getting incredible odds from me.

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254. "No."
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You don’t make a strong bet on something that could go either way.
That is betting101. You find a better bet.

I just the feel the grizzles are the better squad in the long run.....
One team is going forward, the other team is going backwards.

so you can keep your +150

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261. "Feel free to make it less money if you’re not confident."
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Even with the natural variance that comes with any given season, I feel confident.

I really like the Grizzlies long term. But not better than the Lakers this season. And I’d gladly place money on it.

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230. "Patty Mills to the Nets. "
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232. "Huge signing for the Nets, considering Ky's history."
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I don't think the need for a backup PG is as crucial for the Lakers considering Russy's rep as someone who plays every regular season game and considering Bron can run point in a pinch.

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234. "Fuck. Who's left? George Hill?"
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I have to think Schroder and THT leave in S&T deals

  

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236. "RE: Fuck. Who's left? George Hill?"
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>I have to think Schroder and THT leave in S&T deals

I think Schroder will definitely be S&T, we may try to hang onto THT

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244. "The Monk and Carmelo deals"
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are pretty solid ones to sure up the bench rotation. Those two and Dwight Howard are pretty decent bench players given how top heavy the Lakers are with LeBron, Westbrook, and Anthony Davis.

Not too bad given how financially restricted the Lakers are.

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248. "The beauty of having Anthony Davis Is that defense isn't a concern."
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You can just put whatever 4 dudes on the floor around him and have a top 5 defense with AD on the floor. It's pretty magical.

Of course, a lot of that relies on health, lol. But that was going to be the case regardless of the supporting cast, really.

But yeah, I'm gonna super enjoy watching Russy, Monk, Melo, regular season Bron, and AD somehow still put up Top 5 defensive stats on the strength of AD alone. Too much AD slander happened this playoffs/offseason.

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253. "I don't fully understand"
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why your response to me was focused on defense. I don't think I focused squarely on defense in my original response.

Just to be clear, my main concern with the Westbrook trade was that the Lakers would pretty much be LeBron, Westbrook, Anthony Davis and a bunch of scrubs and worse, no solid bench rotation. As competitive as the West is, a top heavy team with no dependable bench isn't going to cut it IMO. With Howard, Carmelo, and Malik Monk, that's a pretty dependable backup rotation, which in theory should be a big difference. Given the age of the majority of the Lakers squad, time will tell how the dust will settle at the end of the season.

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265. "Sorry, I'll clarify."
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I replied focusing on defense because most of LA's supporting signings are bad defenders. Carmelo? Bad defender. Monk? Bad defender. Ellington? Bad defender. Ariza? Hasn't really been a net positive defender in a few years. Westbrook is basically a neutral-impact defender, because while he's still pretty pesky on ball, he's notoriously a bad defender off ball.

AND YET I agree that all of these are good value signings for the Lakers, because their bad defense won't matter. Specifically because of AD and what he does. He just cleans up absolutely everything. It's a great situation for these bench guys, and it's a great situation for the Lakers to take these one-way players and get the most out of them.

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233. "If the Bulls land DeRozan, we will have won the offseason"
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I had faith in Karsisovas and Eversley, but even I didn't think they could pull this kinda of haul.

Ball/Caruso
LaVine/White
(unknown 3)
Williams
Vucevic

Not a championship contender (I'd say 2nd round at the most),
but definitely entertaining.

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238. "over Miami?"
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>I had faith in Karsisovas and Eversley, but even I didn't
>think they could pull this kinda of haul.
>
>Ball/Caruso
>LaVine/White
>(unknown 3)
>Williams
>Vucevic
>
>Not a championship contender (I'd say 2nd round at the most),
>but definitely entertaining.

I love Lonzo but does he really move the needle that much? from not making the playoffs to the 2nd round?


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240. "That's a bigger jump than Miami, no?"
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>I love Lonzo but does he really move the needle that much?
>from not making the playoffs to the 2nd round?

And honestly, it's not just the Ball signing,
but more so a continuation of the moves from last season.
I really want to see LaVine and Vucevic together with a full training camp.
The moves made in the last 24 hours have really hit needs.

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246. "RE: That's a bigger jump than Miami, no?"
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>>I love Lonzo but does he really move the needle that much?
>>from not making the playoffs to the 2nd round?
>
>And honestly, it's not just the Ball signing,
>but more so a continuation of the moves from last season.
>I really want to see LaVine and Vucevic together with a full
>training camp.
>The moves made in the last 24 hours have really hit needs.

I guess, I've never been a big Vuc fan but we'll see, I feel like both forward positions are questionable too

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245. "You have to excuse him. He does this every year. "
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He means well, and is a good sport, but he gets hyped easily. Lol

He just knew we were PO bound last year with the Vucevic trade.


However, he is right about the management FINALLY making good moves.

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258. "You know this better than me"
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but if the Bulls spend top dollar ($25 mil +) on DeRozan, will they be able to give Zach LaVine the top dollars he wants for his impending contract extension?

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259. "They can't extend LaVine until after 21-22."
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But the front office values him a lot.
I don't think they would do anything to jeopardize resigning him.

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"Right now, they can offer him more than what his current "
Tue Aug-03-21 03:45 PM by allStah

          

salary is ,which would be a 120% raise. However, that would
only be 105 million for 4 years, well below his market value.
He can make more money as a FA

The Bulls are hoping that the moves they have made will
push Lavine to accept the max extension, basically, giving
the Bulls a discount.

He already stated he is not accepting a max extension. He wants
to be paid, and playing along side Durant at the Olympics, where
they have built up a friendship, will make contract talks even more
complicated.

I predict he will walk, unless the Bulls offer him a contract at 30%
of the salary cap when he becomes a FA....and I don’t see the Bulls
doing that.

Also, if he makes an All NBA team, then he would become eligible for
a supermax deal.


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237. "...and there it is, Melo to the Lakers"
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241. "Malik Monk to the Lakers"
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250. "WHEW! Someone under 30!"
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295. "LOL."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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251. "Fuck it, thats a good one"
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257. "Getting him on the cheap"
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is probably one of the better moves of this free agency, especially given that the Lakers needed a backup point guard badly and how restricted the Lakers were with their spending.

Job extremely well done by the Lakers front office.

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252. "FUCK. He is about to get his paper."
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243. "He'll be a good guy to give the odd bench minutes. "
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255. "The LA Expendables....or Extendables...or Expires"
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260. "Derozan to Bulls done, per Woj"
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Deets:
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1422651836012666894?s=20

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263. "Hate losing Thad Young..."
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...but I'll take it.

OH, since Lauri wasn't included in the DeRozan deal,
the Bulls could still do something with him.

Granted, I'm not high on Lauri myself but that hasn't stopped this new front office from getting good value.

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264. "We'll be playoff competitive for at least 3 seasons"
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Which is a start...that might attract a bigger name at some point.

Ball/Caruso
Zach/Ayo
Derozan/White
Williams/??
Vuc/??

We need some big depth and that second unit is kinda small but if Williams takes a leap, 46-50 wins seems doable. 6-8 seed. Maybe 5 if we gel.

Looks like we might keep Lauri? But we are still 19 mil under the cap with this deal so I don't think we're done yet.

I'm good with it.

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266. "WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH"
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AK pulled this off and somehow kept Lauri (who still has upside and a coveted skillset)?

We're giving up draft capital but I'm all in on building a winning culture. Enough of hoping and praying to get lucky in the draft. Aim to win now while being a BK/Milwaukee injury away from winning the east. I don't wish this upon them but it's always the reality in any sport.

Now bring in some front court toughness and let's go. I'm hearing Khem Birch could be an option.

  

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267. "The draft assets aren't that bad though:"
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Wojnarowski also provides the details on the draft picks headed to the Spurs, reporting (via Twitter) that the future first-round pick will convey in 2025 at the earliest, since the Bulls owe their 2023 first-rounder to Orlando. The second-rounders Chicago is sending to San Antonio are the Lakers’ 2022 pick and the Bulls’ own 2025 pick, Woj adds.

Our next 4 drafts
2022 - Us
2023 - Magic (Top 4 protected)
2024 - Us
2025 - Spurs possibly

Second:
2022 Lakers pick goes to spurs
2025 Spurs (so we may not have one pick in the 2025 draft unless we trade)

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269. "Not bad at all. It's worth it to get out of the doldrums"
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we were the laughingstock of the league under garpax. this is a statement. times have changed. we're a forward thinking franchise now with competent management. future top tier free agents can't ignore us anymore. it's all worth it.

Cowley's cynical ass put it well...

https://twitter.com/JCowleyHoops/status/1422659227890368514

This is how a Bulls front office should have been operating for decades ... relentless aggressiveness, always lurking, always pushing. A world-wide brand finally acting like a world-wide brand rather than a mom-and-pop store who doesn't take back returned purchases.




  

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277. "If Lonzo takes another leap, that's a good ass squad. "
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301. "Half a season of competence..."
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"...and two of the biggest free agents available chose Chicago. That's good news."

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262. "I don't see how Miami got *that* much better"
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I seeing and hearing a lot of talk of how Miami "won" free agency. I don't get it.

Kyle is 35. And while he's still one of the better guards in the league (a league now filled with really good guard play), I'm not sure he moves the needle much in terms of moving the Heat up the eastern conference ladder. Like, I don't see them being better than the Sixers. Or even a refocused Boston. And acquiring a 36 year old PJ Tucker is essentially reacquiring Iggy. It's irrelevant.

Jimmy, Bam and Kyle isn't a terrifying big 3. And their spare parts don't jump out on paper either.

  

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268. "I wonder what they do with Oladipo"
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If they keep him, this could be interesting.

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270. "He's a free agent."
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He was on the last year of his contract when he was on the Rockets before the Heat trade.

To make matters worse, I think he turned down a contract extension from the Rockets if memory serves me right.

I wonder which team will gamble on him with a one year deal.

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275. "Where does he realistically fit?"
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Boston?
Lakers (on a bargain deal for year to rebuild his value)?
Warriors (Help retool their bench, same situation as the lakers)?

Not many places I see him fitting. Unless a younger team wants to chance it on him.

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278. "I have no clue what he has left."
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The Heat were trying to nurse him along before he played last year and he still managed to get injured, so I'm clueless.

Pretty sad how far dude fell completely off the radar because of injuries.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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271. "ha. forgot about him. his regression bc injury seems real unfortunately."
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he is the wild card though.

  

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290. "is Kyle Lowry really one of Miami's 3 best players?"
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thats highly debatable

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272. "Notable remaining FA's"
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Dinwiddie
Oubre
Schroeder
Danny Green (Lakers...watch)
Lauri (Restricted)
Reggie jackson
Oladipo
Horton-Tucker (Restricted...probably staying with lakers)
Josh Hart (restricted)
Kendrick Nunn
Iggy
Justise Winslow
Reddick
Milsap
Khem Birch
Diallo
Cousins
Elf Payton
Bryn Forbes
Kaminsky
Kanter
Whiteside

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274. "Dinwiddie is a Wizard"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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276. "One down then"
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279. "damn, Miami snatched the shit out of that qualifying offer for Nunn"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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280. "Hassan Whiteside would be a nice goon pickup at "
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at the 5 spot. I still consider him to be the best pure shot blocker in the league.

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281. "Hassan and Birch would be real nice."
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no idea how that would work though.

  

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327. "Hope the Knicks sign Birch. "
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Other than that, meh.

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282. "Wonder if the knicks will ever have a top 25 point guard"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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348. "I wonder if this pandemic will end"
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I wonder if the mets will ever stay healthy
I wonder if kyrie can get it together
I wonder (c) kanye

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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283. "Hmm, not sure how I feel about the Derozan deal. "
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I will just wait and see. It seems like a super splash buy, but will it
play well on the court?

Also, I don’t like Williams at the 4. He spent 60 percent of his playing
time at small forward, where he uses his strength and IQ on defense
against smaller players. At 6’7 he will be undersized at that position.

Ball-Lavine-Derozan-Williams-Vuecevic.

Hmmm.....

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284. "Monk is a great pick-up for the Lakers; they still have mid-level"
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Monk is an ascendant young talent who is just coming into his own; great shooter. Lakers needed these young legs to space the floor and knockdown 3's paired with Bron & Brodie. Now with Melo, Monk, Ariza, McLemore, Bazemore & Ellington - Lakers have solved their shooting issues and have some heavy long-range artillery to spread the floor. These guys are going to get ridiculous open-looks.

Lakers have achieved all of this without even expending the vet mid-level exception. So they aren't done at all.

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285. "Rob want his respect (c)"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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293. "He deserves it. Hell of a GM/VP of Ops"
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287. "didn't McLemore sign with Portland?"
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>Monk is an ascendant young talent who is just coming into his
>own; great shooter. Lakers needed these young legs to space
>the floor and knockdown 3's paired with Bron & Brodie. Now
>with Melo, Monk, Ariza, McLemore, Bazemore & Ellington -
>Lakers have solved their shooting issues and have some heavy
>long-range artillery to spread the floor. These guys are
>going to get ridiculous open-looks.
>
>Lakers have achieved all of this without even expending the
>vet mid-level exception. So they aren't done at all.
>
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291. "Yup. Damn I missed that one in the FA frenzy"
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I liked Ben - but he is a bit redundant w/ these new signings. He can go off on hot streaks on the regular though. Good pickup for Portland.
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286. "again I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to do all this?"
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Like I'm just seeing signing after signing. The F?

  

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288. "aren't the majority of them vet minimums?"
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>Like I'm just seeing signing after signing. The F?

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289. "the draw of playing in L.A. w/ LeBron, Brow & Brodie is real"
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These signings are flocking to LA on veteran minimum deals to get a chance to win a 'chip w/ this squad, in Los Angeles.

To think: there was a time when people really pushed that "nobody wants to play w/ Bron" narrative.

Several years later, he's turned coal into diamonds. Nobody would touch Rondo or Dwight w/ a ten foot pole until they won a 'chip with Bron in 2020. Now they are coveted. The wrap on Kyrie and K. Love was that they couldn't get it done on winning teams -- now they are champions with solid reps. They said AD just couldn't get out of the 2nd round and was simply a regular season juggernaut. Now he's a made-man. "You couldn't win with JR Smith" -- yet he contributed greatly to a chip under Bron's tutelage. Mozgov, Delly & Caruso were mere journeymen afterthoughts -- but got big deals after Bron Godfather'd their market value etc.. etc...

Alike, that same chorus is sounding off about how Westbrook isn't a winner -- saying Melo is too old etc...

They just might be the next champion chapters in The Alchemist version of LeGM James --- churning coal into diamonds.

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292. "RE: again I'm like how are the Lakers financially able to do all this?"
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i think everyone is taking the minimum except THT
not sure how they got him

these last few years of lebrons career everyone will take the min to try to win a ring
looks like they got all their shooters
should be an interesting season

  

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294. "Vet minimum deals "
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305. "Dwight, Melo, Ellington, Bazemore, and Monk are minimums"
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We had THTs bird rights so we could go over the cap to retain him (same as Dennis)

Nunn seems to be who we signed with our MLE - which we didn't use all of to do it.

That's how.

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296. "THT Resigns for 3/32"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1422663703921635341

Restricted free agent Talen Horton-Tucker has agreed to a three-year, $32M deal to stay with the Los Angeles Lakers, his agents @KlutchSports
CEO Rich Paul and Lucas Newton tell ESPN.

Solid deal.

Just need to see what they're saving that tax-exception MLE for.

Still hoping we can get a sign and trade for Schroder.

  

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298. "Key signing to buoy the Laker bench; young legs"
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Lakers bench not looking half-bad now.

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306. "Very tradable contract as well. "
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I like it.

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297. "Kendrick Nunn too huh? Okay"
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299. "damn today is moving fast."
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I'm beyond fascinated with what's going to happen to Dennis after all of this.

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302. "He should honestly sign for 2/30 with a player option"
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Bet on himself.

He played himself out of the bag but he can play himself into it again - he's great as a sixth man.

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304. "at this point - probably. the market is dry for him right now"
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He probably wishes he didn't turn down that $80 million extension right about now.

>Bet on himself.
>
>He played himself out of the bag but he can play himself into
>it again - he's great as a sixth man.

For sure. He's a mega talent. Despite his challenges this year, he still had his moments - including a huge game in Phoenix in the playoffs.

Something's gotta give though now that Nunn got signed. Pelinka is probably up to something in a sign-and-trade utilizing the tax MLE.

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Cold Truth
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311. "We used most of the tax MLE on Nunn."
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We got 890K left of that.

  

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323. "Somewhere hoping he took the extension like Dennis"
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314. "speaking of people turning down money where is Oladipo?"
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________________________________________
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310. "Not sure he has that option after we got Monk and Nunn."
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That's a crowded ass benchmob for small guards.

Gotta be a S&T in the works.

Someone will take him, and we land Buddy.

  

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300. "Shit. That's a nice ass backup."
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Seems a little odd to get both him and Monk though.

  

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303. "RE: Shit. That's a nice ass backup."
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>Seems a little odd to get both him and Monk though.

potential piece in a sign-and-trade w/ Dennis, perhaps?

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307. "You can't sign a player in FA and flip him like that"
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To my understanding, once you sign a free agent, you have to wait until December (whenever the designated date is) to begin trading them.


  

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309. "yah, 3 months or December 15 (may be diff. with the year being weird)"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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308. "Cuz, I'm Rob just came to have fun..."
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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312. "Buddy has to happen. Someone will take Dennnis."
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We'll get a three-way deal done for Buddy.

Come on.

This has been a solid off season so far. I'd call it a triple.

Let's get Buddy and make it a home run.

  

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313. "As a Celtics fan. I'm sitting here looking mad as Sam Jackson lol"
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Watching the Lakers get better and better.

  

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315. "Are we going to sign literally anyone???"
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Not that we should be making moves just for the sake of making moves... but do SOMETHING Brad!

  

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317. "team is washed with 2 young stars ready to bolt"
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Fuck Boston
Fuck Danny Ainge<<~~` and laugh at him
and now
Fuck Brad Stevens

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326. "Did yall at least resign Time Lord?"
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328. "He's still under contract this year."
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And then we have a qualifying offer next year.

  

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330. "I think Brad Stevens the GM will be worse that Brad Stevens the coach..."
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he's relatively new to the NBA world and doesn't have the established relationships with other GM's, agents, teams and players that a lot of other GM's have.

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331. "aye Lach. I was shocked that Boston did NOTHING"
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they got out maneuvered by the Chicago Fucking Bulls of all teams this year

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

Jays | Cavs | Eagles | Sabres | Tarheels

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332. "I was searching for info on the Kemba Walker trade"
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and found this article explaining why the Celtics aren't making any moves. Here's the link: https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-rumors-why-celtics-are-staying-quiet-nba-free-agency


Is this talked about much in local Boston media? Assuming the article is correct, it appears the Celtics are wasting Tatum's and Brown's goddamn time by trying to wait around, especially since the East is actually getting more and more competitive.

I wonder if either player will eventually ask to get traded.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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341. "I mean, it's very clear their goal is the 2022/23 free agent pool."
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Frankly, it makes sense. If they didn't think anyone they could land this season would help them compete for a title this season-- and I don't really think there was, although I guess they could steal Kawhi and hope he's healthy, but I really doubt that happens-- then it makes sense to just wait it out, develop the young guys, and aim for someone splashy next offseason when the only players on the Celtics' books at all will be Tatum, Brown, and a very tradeable Horford expiring deal.

And, to the point of any fans wondering "why aren't they signing people?", I think it was pretty clear when they included their 2021 first rounder with Kemba to the Thunder, it was clear that the goal is a big time long-term signing, not a small signing. They saved 20 mil taking Horford instead of Kemba, and by trading the 2021 pick, they don't have to pay the rookie deal. It's all about the money save.

Sure, they missed on guys like Otto and Mills... but it's hard to blame guys looking for minimum or low-scale deals for picking teams that can genuinely contend over the Celtics right now. Again, all the more reason I'm sure the Celtics are reluctant to throw multi-year deals at people-- they realize the best way to appeal to minimum/vet free agents of value is to get that third star.

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346. "Thank you for helping me calm down"
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I’ve been beyond frustrated the last couple days, but you’re right, though it is worth noting that this is a very risky strategy. If we can’t land Bradley Beal or someone of equal importance next year, I will not be surprised if Tatum and Brown request trades.

  

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350. "That was going to be a given regardless. "
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They couldn't afford Chris Paul or Kawhi this offseason. So if they made a push this year, they'd max out at, like, the 4 seed at best, lose second round, now have a lot of money on the books, and miss on the big names due to budget next year anyway. And Tatum and Brown would probably be out anyway. So the result would be the same either way.

At least by waiting, they're giving themselves a chance at a real big name and real contention. Especially while the Bulls, Knicks, and Heat spend like crazy and make themselves less likely to be able to afford the big names next offseason.

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377. "RE: That was going to be a given regardless. "
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>They couldn't afford Chris Paul or Kawhi this offseason. So
>if they made a push this year, they'd max out at, like, the 4
>seed at best, lose second round, now have a lot of money on
>the books, and miss on the big names due to budget next year
>anyway. And Tatum and Brown would probably be out anyway. So
>the result would be the same either way.
>
>At least by waiting, they're giving themselves a chance at a
>real big name and real contention. Especially while the Bulls,
>Knicks, and Heat spend like crazy and make themselves less
>likely to be able to afford the big names next offseason.

Not getting a big ticket free agent is one thing, but I don't think the Celts even marginally improved, which isn't asking much given how their season ended. And that's made even worse given how competitive the East is getting now.

In principal and in a complete vacuum, I understand Stevens wanting to serve the team's interests first, but this is a star driven league, so there is a real danger that Stevens looks to serve the Celtics' interests so hard that they alienate Tatum and Jaylen Brown to the point Stevens ultimately screws the Celtics over.

I wonder if Celtics' front office doing a piss poor job in effectively replacing Kemba Walker and Gordan Hayward is a harbinger of things to come.

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353. "yeah I keep hearing rumors of pursuing Beal next summer"
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I'm hoping that works out. In the meantime, if Tatum and Brown keep unleashing, we should at least be a top 6 team in the east. Hopefully. lol

  

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354. "Brad and JT on the same team *swoon*"
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316. "Malik Monk will be a mega hit in LA if he can keep his life together "
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He was wylin in Charlotte until he got suspended

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318. "What did he do? I see he's into anime. Seems like a dork."
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324. "RE: He was a big fan of the booger sugar"
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325. "Ah, thats why we stayed away...damn. "
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319. "Losing Kieff to the Heat hurts our frontcourt depth but InRobWeTrust"
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320. "that rob lowe and rich paul combo is murder."
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321. "LOL"
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322. "Mamba left us in good hands, with his mans"
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Rob's more than earned his stripes since he took the (purple) reigns.

  

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329. "facts..."
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>Rob's more than earned his stripes since he took the (purple)
>reigns.

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333. "Kemba headed to the Knicks"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1422920584523026442?s=20

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334. "I'm seeing on twitter the Knicks will get Kemba Walker."
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He'll get bought out by OKC and the Knicks will sign him.

I'm guessing Reggie Jackson and Dennis Schrooder were asking for top dollar?

Not that thrilled with the move as this dude has been so injury prone, but he should be able to create for Randle and Barrett to some degree. I'm hoping the contract will only be for one year; two years top.

Pretty wild that two of the five starters were literally playing for the Celtics last year.

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336. "shit is crazy"
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342. "Walker, Rose, Ntilkina, Quickley, McBride, Harper.. what’s the plan??"
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344. "Frank is gone. Harper, G-League. "
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Rose/Kemba starting

IQ/McBride coming off the pine.

Barrett/Grimes at the three

Burks is the featured scorer off the bench and flips between 2 and 3

Randle/Toppin 4

Taj/Noel/Mitch are the bigs and Jerico Sims in the mix for time in that part of the rotation

At least two of these names will be injured or out of favor

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347. "Got it, makes sense "
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349. "Fournier?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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351. "RE: Fournier?"
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He's the two

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434. "Now I'm curious"
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if Fournier or Barrett will play the 3 in the starting line-up. The game overall is a lot smaller compared to when 5's were dominant, so I guess this shouldn't be that big a deal, but it should be interesting to see what role Barrett will play in terms of spacing and potentially getting offensive rebounds as a 3, of course defending the other team's small forward.


Should be an interesting experiment.

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345. "RE: Walker, Rose, Ntilkina, Quickley, McBride, Harper.. what’s the pla..."
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The Knicks turned down an extension on Ntilkina and he's currently a free agent.

I'm hoping Thibs will start Kemba and bring Rose off the bench.

I'm guessing Thibs will make all the young guns earn their playing time off the bench, Quickley included. I'm personally interested in seeing how much Quickley's game has matured from last year. If the rookies provide anything in terms of creating scoring opportunities for themselves or even better, can actually run an offense and distribute the ball to others, that would be gravy IMO.

Now that I'm typing this all out, I'm a bit concerned how well the Knicks will defend from the PG spot, but offensively, the Knicks PG spot is better on paper than it was last season.

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335. "Outside of the Clippers, who else can offer Kawhi Leonard top dollar?"
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Mainly curious which other teams can hypothetically afford to give Kawhi Leonard top dollar.

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337. "I think he's staying with the Clippers"
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338. "I know."
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I'm just curious if there are other teams that could even afford him.

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339. "RE: I know."
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>I'm just curious if there are other teams that could even
>afford him.

at this point anything would have to be some kind of sign and trade deal.

I think he wants to stay in LA and the Clippers gave up a lot to get him.

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340. "I think every team thinks they have a shot with the way things played..."
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out in the postseason with the Bucks, Suns, Hawks and Clippers(without Kawai) making it to the conference finals with almost nobody picking those teams everybody is going all in this offseason lol

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343. "Which is why I honestly respect what the Celtics are doing."
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If you think teams like the Bulls, Knicks, and Heat are spending all their money now, but you don't think those pieces are the type to make you a genuine contender, then let everyone else spend their money so you have a full bankroll to play with next free agency, when those Eastern Conference teams will be more restricted in their ability to go for the truly big names. Because while those teams certainly all got better... I'd still favor the Nets and the Bucks over any of them this coming season, tbh.

I'm sure the Celtics fans are frustrated... but Spencer Dinwiddie and Otto Porter weren't going to get the Celtics past the Nets and the Bucks. Better to remain patient, realize that this season you'll be a fringe playoff team at best, see what the young guys can do to find out if you want to pick up their options/extend them, and go all in for a true difference maker in 2023.

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352. "100% Agree"
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It's been interesting to hear all the griping about the Celtics remaining quiet but at the end of the day there are no big names in this free agent class worth pushing your chips in for. At least not with the Nets and Bucks looming like you said.

This postseason was a false shift because of the injuries. The Bucks probably don't even win the title if the Nets are healthy. They barely got past a Nets team with Durant out there solo.

I never had a problem with what Ainge tried to do with the rebuild and honestly he had the right idea. He got his young pieces and wanted to add a star or two to that. He almost pulled it off. Those young guys are STILL really young so waiting another year is fine with Stevens in charge. Same philosophy.

What sucks about this is that the league is just a hired gun thing now that we can't watch teams really come up and dominate naturally. There's always gonna be some dude lurking who will just hop on a contender like Durant did in Golden State. You fast forward now and Harden couldn't beat that Warriors team but is teaming up with Durant and Kyrie in Brooklyn to try to get a ring and Kyrie beat the Warriors with LeBron before Durant got there which basically made the Warriors go after Durant. This shit is not fun like this.

I'm a Pistons fan. I'm super excited about the rebuild there but will some mfkrs just team up and squash it if they start to get on? We'll see. Will they try to hop on their squad? If Cade ends up being dominant and not winning will he just bounce? Who knows.

The Bucks championship was kind of a fluke but I'm glad it happened and I'm glad Giannis called this shit out. My favorite championships of the last 20 years are the 2004 Pistons, 2008 Celtics, 2010 Lakers, 2011 Mavs, and 2014 Spurs, 2015 Warriors, 2019 Raptors and then this Bucks team.

  

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357. "I agree. It's just HARD tho to wait lol. But 2022 could be great for us"
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But I will be watching every game to see if Tatum and Brown can take their games up even higher.

  

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358. "It's a great shot to test the young guys, see who's of value."
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Give Nesmith some shots, Pritchard some shots, maybe even guys like Langford and Edwards. I think most of them have team options in their contracts for 2023.

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359. "right 2022 free agent list could potential include KD, Harden, Kyrie..."
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Beal, LaVine, Kawhi plus probably some others

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384. "Ain't gonna be Kyrie lol"
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I think they go after Beal, but LaVine is a possibility.

  

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385. "1000% won't be Kyrie lol"
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388. "I've been hearing they may be looking at Beal too..."
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>I think they go after Beal, but LaVine is a possibility.

If Boston has 2 STL dudes it will be hard to root against them lol

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355. "Dinwiddie to the Wiz may be folded into the Westbrook deal"
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https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/2021-nba-free-agency-live-updates-news-analysis-trades/Sv5IIlL9fSee

Partway down on the page:

"Hearing the most likely outcome is that the Spencer Dinwiddie sign-and-trade becomes part of the Russell Westbrook trade. That would make it, at minimum, a four-team deal (Nets, Lakers, Wizards, Pacers) that includes a sign-and-trade, base-year compensation and the luxury-tax apron, and there may very well be a fifth team involved to drop off unwanted salary. Fasten your seat belts, cap guys; it’s about to get crazy out there"

This could get interesting. Schroder's gotta be involved in that somehow, and we get back another piece.

Right?

  

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360. "I Get Money (c)Julius"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1423251164011933701?s=20

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361. "I starting to feel bad for Dennis..."
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https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-dennis-schroder-now-facing-harsh-reality-after-la-spurned-him-for-russell-westbrook/

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362. "Set up a GoFundMe for him then."
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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363. "geez"
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366. "Everyone thought he was wrong for turning down 4/84"
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Like, everyone.

People were clowning the Lakers for even OFFERING that.

If you're gonna turn down a deal that automatically makes you overpaid - perhaps...I dunno...don't suck in the most crucial time (and get vaxxed, too while we're at it).

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364. "has anybody heard anything about Tyreke Evans?"
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he was "banned" from the league 2 years ago for drugs, he was supposed to be able to re-apply this year, is he done at 31 years old?

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365. "Windhorst said Pels offered CP3 100 mil…"
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which motivated Phoenix to kick in the 4th year.

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367. "Well, at least they had the right idea! lol"
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373. "That's somewhat interesting"
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but unless Chris Paul is a masochist, it didn't make much sense for Chris Paul to leave Phoenix to head to New Orleans.

Was Windhorst saying that New Orleans was the only team to offer Chris Paul a huge contract and their the sole reason Phoenix gave him the four year contract? I find that hard to believe, even given his age and injury history.

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376. "He didn’t say whether or not other teams…"
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made offers, but he did say that Chris considered the Pelicans’ offer and it played a part in Phoenix giving the 4th year. Looking at the deal with Phoenix, only the first 2 years are fully guaranteed. Year 3 is guaranteed at half of his 31 mil and the 4th year is a team option.

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378. "He maybe alienating Zion"
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but at least David Griffin should get some kudos for lining Chris Paul's pockets I suppose. Perhaps he'll get a State Farm cameo next season.

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368. "Dennis Schroder Agrees To a 4-Year, 120 million deal with Lakers"
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The Lakers, we're told, don't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Yep, the memes write themselves on this one.

https://twitter.com/NBAMemes/status/1423391354453827585

I'm trying to recall another player who failed this miserably in a single free agency season.

Dwight's post-Lakers slide from all star, DPOY stalwart into a journeyman wearing out his welcome throughout the league was certainly spectacular, but that was a multi-season soap opera.

I think Sprewell might hold this crown, considering he actually had serious credentials before he spit that infamous line and never played again.

But in the modern social media era, I'm struggling to come up with someone who so dramatically and completely killed his own value.

But there has to be others.

  

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369. "savage"
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To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
Most people don't get it.

  

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370. "RE: Dennis Schroder Agrees To a 4-Year, 120 million deal with Lakers"
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>The Lakers, we're told, don't know what the fuck he's talking
>about.
>
>Yep, the memes write themselves on this one.
>
>https://twitter.com/NBAMemes/status/1423391354453827585
>
>I'm trying to recall another player who failed this miserably
>in a single free agency season.
>
>Dwight's post-Lakers slide from all star, DPOY stalwart into a
>journeyman wearing out his welcome throughout the league was
>certainly spectacular, but that was a multi-season soap
>opera.

a severe back injury caused Dwight decline

>I think Sprewell might hold this crown, considering he
>actually had serious credentials before he spit that infamous
>line and never played again.
>
>But in the modern social media era, I'm struggling to come up
>with someone who so dramatically and completely killed his own
>value.
>
>But there has to be others.

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371. "his back issues aren't why he wore out his welcome."
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386. "1 year, 5.9 mill offer from Boston. Damn. "
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If he has to sign this, watchout. He is going to wear muhphuckas out just to get his asking price next summer.

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387. "What was stopping him last season?"
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>If he has to sign this, watchout. He is going to wear
>muhphuckas out just to get his asking price next summer.

  

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405. "."
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.

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372. "Reggie Jack, back to the Clippers for 2/22"
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374. "Grayson Allen to the Bucks! fuuuuuuck yeeeeeees"
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375. "good replacement for Tucker. guy is a pest "
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To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
Most people don't get it.

  

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380. "really?"
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379. "You gotta be focking kidding me??"
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Grayson Allen on the bucks in the central?

Milwaukee, why? I supported you as a neighbor.

A Dukie, and Grayson Allen at that?

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381. "KD's pockets STRAIGHT..."
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31974570/kevin-durant-plans-4-year-198m-extension-brooklyn-nets-manager-says

it will be interesting to see what happens with the rest of the Nets big 3

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382. " Kawhi Leonard re-signing with LA Clippers:"
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31974511/sources-kawhi-leonard-re-signing-la-clippers-opting-original-contract

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383. "I just need someone to sign Born Ready."
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He's only 30. You know you getting a guard, a money shot maker, a pick and roll expert...perfect bench spark plug.

The league NEEDS the guitar. We want Lance. (in my Joey Crack voice) Muhphuckas letting Justise steal money, we NEED .....the guitar.

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458. "Odds are looking slim for an American tour for The Guitar"
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According to this article ( https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10010286-lance-stephenson-rumors-nets-bucks-76ers-nuggets-among-teams-to-attend-workout ), Lance Stevenson held a private workout two weeks ago. I didn't see any reports on any teams giving him a contract since the two weeks this private workout was held.

I suppose it's possible a team could sign him, but I would think odds are slim since no one signed him at the moment.

Looks as if The Guitar will have to tour overseas for the time being.

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389. "Dennis to the Celtics. 1 year, 5.9 mil. "
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Turned down a 4/84 for a 1/6.

Ouch.

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390. "...the letter came back 3 days later, return to sender. DAMN (c)"
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400. "lol"
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403. "bruh"
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391. "Damn"
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392. "To me this outcome is worse than the Boogie/IT situations"
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The Boogie and IT missed opportunities happened because of an injury. Sad but part of the game.

Dennis made a very poor calculation that could have been easily avoided with sounds advice. That error cost him money he may *never* makeup.

The crazy part is that if Dennis doesn't get COVID and plays well in the playoffs, he'd probably have gotten the $100M.

"It turns on a trifle." - Phil

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393. "On the positive for Celtics fan"
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at least the dude will be motivated since next season will be a contract year for him.

Should be interesting to see how things will unfold since they pretty much whiffed this off-season with free agency.

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394. "So was last year."
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He's definitely a talented player, but don't think a contract year will fix the fact he overvalues himself. It sucks - I like him a lot, but this was eye opening. Dude came into the reigning champs from day 1 demanding to be a starter.

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395. "RE: So was last year."
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And he got it because there were no other viable options

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396. "I think his arrogance did him in on this."
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I think he thought he had the Lakers over a barrel.

There was a laundry list of reasons for this.

All in all, this is on him.

Looking back, I don't think his miscalulation wasn't so much in his ability, the market, his price tag, etc. Those were all certainly overestimated.

But I think his biggest error was twofold:

1.Miscalculating the Lakers ability to replace him.
2.Miscalculating the teams with cap space and a need for a point guard

Looking back at this whole thing, I think he and his agent were both betting heavy on the Laker's seeming necessity to resign him.

It was a guard heavy free agency period, but that didn't matter much.

I'm sure he believed in himself, but I think, more than that, he believed that the Lakers were stuck.

No cap space, minimal assets, all of this meant that if all else failed, the Lakers would likely be forced to pay up or lose him for nothing, because they didn't have the means to easily replace him.

Until we did, and fit/cap issues be damned, we replaced him with a HOF player with a few years left of his prime. Moreover, there were better and/or better seasoned players at his position.

Lowry, Lonzo, and Dinwiddie were the names that kept buzzing in that field. CP3 was nearly a forgone conclusion.

Prior to Westbrook, I think he figured, the Lakers lacked the assets to replace him, and so he had them in a corner. I think he played his hand based on that.

  

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397. "agree on all that"
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sucks for him but he is still 27
so hopefully he can somewhat recoup this lost contract
but damn saying no to 20 mill per year to play for the Lakers, crazy

  

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398. "He won’t get the reps in Boston to really recoup"
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Dude the 4th option at best behind Smart, Tatum and Brown. That order is intentional lol. Dennis coming off the bench and getting scraps

Dude may have done irreparable damage to his earning potential altogether by not taking our overpay.

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399. "Wanted to see him get that bag, too…"
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he got a young child. Like you, I can’t see him playing enough in Boston to fill up another bag like the one he turned down.

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401. "I'm waiting for the story behind this to come out."
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I have my best guesses based on the little that's out there. I'd bet that I'm relatively close to the mark, but maybe not.

One thing I wonder about, is if anyone offered him something less than the 25 he wanted, and he just rejected it. I can't imagine someone not making an offer around 15.

I don't think he's a 25 million dollar player, but 15-18, especially on a team where he can do his thing? Certainly.

Or I wonder if teams just preferred the other options available and didn't even consider him.

Dallas needs another guard, and they had zero interest, reportedly.

  

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402. "maybe he just isnt well liked in league circles"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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406. "Kraut Kwame pockets KAPUT!"
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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<---
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404. "LA Clippers re-sign Kawhi Leonard to 4-year, $176.3 million max deal:"
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32010790/la-clippers-sign-kawhi-leonard-4-year-1763-million-deal

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408. "A medium sized Woj Bomb on Sunday night"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1427061342016610304

The Los Angeles Clippers are trading Patrick Beverley, Rajon Rondo and Daniel Oturu to the Memphis Grizzlies for guard Eric Bledsoe,
sources tell ESPN.


I had no idea Eric Bledsoe's contract was so bad that he could get traded for three dudes like that. Somewhat interesting trade. Part of me wonders why the Pelicans didn't trade for those three when they had Eric Bledsoe some months ago.

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409. "Good for the Clippers."
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I still don't like them without Lou Williams, but this helps.

https://digife.com

  

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410. "Part of me"
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makes me think Luka constantly cooking Patrick Beverly is why this trade went down. For me to fully believe that, I'd have to know how good of a defensive player Eric Bledsoe is, and I have no clue since I don't watch Pelicans games.

I also have to think Reggie Jackson playing well in this off season and the Clippers having more confidence in him is why this trade went down as well. He in theory makes Rondo expendable.

Still a somewhat wild trade since the Pelicans pretty much dumped the dude to get rid of his salary.

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412. "Looks like a team with their top scorer injured is looking for scoring"
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bledsoe can put up 16 or whatever points a game. the other guys can't.

>makes me think Luka constantly cooking Patrick Beverly is why
>this trade went down.

Luka consistently cooks pretty much everyone on the Clippers (and the league) though.

  

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422. "Nah it was the shove in the back to Chris Paul"
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jerry west doesnt tolerate shit like that. luka would cook most guys defending him, i doubt that was his downfall


>makes me think Luka constantly cooking Patrick Beverly is why
>this trade went down. For me to fully believe that, I'd have
>to know how good of a defensive player Eric Bledsoe is, and I
>have no clue since I don't watch Pelicans games.
>
>I also have to think Reggie Jackson playing well in this off
>season and the Clippers having more confidence in him is why
>this trade went down as well. He in theory makes Rondo
>expendable.
>
>Still a somewhat wild trade since the Pelicans pretty much
>dumped the dude to get rid of his salary.

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411. "Man starting the new season with a suspension..."
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from his last act as a Clipper. Gotta hate that.

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413. "Bev gets to bully backup PGs now....and Memphis will love him"
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This is a good move for him. Rondo? I thought he was going to end up becoming an assistant to Ty Lue.

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414. "Somebody on Twitter said Beverly going to Memphis…"
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brings him one step closer to his goal of becoming Tony Allen.

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415. "he's basically a replacement for Grayson Allen"
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417. "I understand the financial aspect to this"
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Memphis will probably eventually get buyouts for both Bev and Rondo and they'll go to contenders closer to the deadline, so they get out from under Bledsoe's contract at a discount.

But this doesn't help either team. Guess the Clips are just punting this year - don't blame them.

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418. "RE: I understand the financial aspect to this"
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>Memphis will probably eventually get buyouts for both Bev and
>Rondo and they'll go to contenders closer to the deadline, so
>they get out from under Bledsoe's contract at a discount.
>
>But this doesn't help either team. Guess the Clips are just
>punting this year - don't blame them.
Yep…and they essentially dump Rondo’s salary and Reggie gets the reigns at point.

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419. "RE: I understand the financial aspect to this"
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>Yep…and they essentially dump Rondo’s salary and Reggie
>gets the reigns at point.

over Bledsoe?

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420. "Based on his play last year, especially in the playoffs…yes"
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.

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423. "You think they're punting after being a couple games from the Finals?"
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That doesnt make sense.

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424. "I mean, by all accounts Kawhi is gonna be out most of the season "
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Which could easily turn into all of the season.

So the idea that they don’t push too hard this season in hopes of loading up again in ‘22-‘23 isn’t far fetched.

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425. "and if we do know anything about Kawhi…"
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he is not coming back til he’s damn well ready. So, why not get some cap room and pick up an expiring contract in Bledsoe?

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428. "Best case scenario, Bledsoe helps keep them in the mix..."
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...and then Kawhi is ready is to come back for a playoff push, to make them potentially dangerous.

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421. "Marcus Smart's pockets STRAIGHT...:"
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2944732-marcus-smart-celtics-reportedly-agree-to-4-year-771-max-contract-extension

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426. "Hope Patrick can get his security deposit back…"
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1427647978240684046?s=20

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427. "Lol"
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<---
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429. "He still in line waiting for his barbecue. "
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430. "big picture wise he's making $14mil this year which is not bad for a guy..."
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that scrapped his way into the league through europe, g-league and everything else.

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432. "Well, yeah man…"
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none of these dudes are missing any meals. Dennis made like 15 mil, the last 3 seasons. When you do all that Bev did, though, you gotta hold that one.

https://twitter.com/TheCrossover/status/1147497946964996096?s=20

https://twitter.com/moseskumingaszn/status/1427650001170173954?s=20

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438. "yeah, he turned the cup of coffee into a starting job"
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431. "What a humbling offseason."
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At least he's still getting his paper, but what a blow to the ego for this loudmouth.

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433. "Nets-Lakers Christmas Day..."
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https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-releases-christmas-day-schedule-starring-lakers-and-nets-190418860.html

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435. "Lauri headed to Cleveland…"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1431287193918742531?s=20

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436. "Cleveland is so incompetent."
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They signed Allen long-term despite knowing they were drafting Mobley, and now they sign Markannen for four years? What are they DOING?

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437. "WE HAVE THE BIGS!!!"
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440. "If Lauri starts at the 4..."
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...I expect him to lose the job by Christmas.

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441. "You've got to wonder if they're considering him at the 3."
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In which case, everyone will lose their job by Christmas.

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442. "Right?"
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Lauri definitely can't guard 3s.

KC Johnson mentioned this which I found interesting:

"According to two sources, the talks originally centered on Markkanen landing with the Trail Blazers in exchange for Jones Jr. and the lottery-protected first-round pick. When the Bulls sought an extra second-round pick, the talks expanded to include the Cavaliers."

I never heard that the Cavs were interested in Markkanen.

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445. "Nance is a better overall player than Lauri today."
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So I bet the Blazers were overjoyed that that opportunity presented itself, lol.

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439. "So is Mobley going to play as a 3?"
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443. "Is Larry Nance Jr. good enough to satiate Dame Lillard's needs?"
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I'm honestly asking because I don't watch enough of the Cavs to know how good to dude is. I'm guessing the Trailblazers need to do more seeing as how good and deep the West is, but I could be wrong.

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444. "He's definitely good enough to make them better."
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Like, I think there was some question if they could avoid the play-in game, and this move definitely makes that more likely. They were and are gonna run a three-guard lineup, but for situations where they need forwards, they had Covington and Jones... and that's it. I think Nance is a major upgrade to what this roster needs on both ends, and he gives them a big boost in roster flexibility. He can easily be a versatile 4 in the three guard lineups. He can play a small ball 5 if needed.

I also just think he's much better than what he could be on the Cavs. It's very hard to be a net positive player on a consistently bad team, and he's been that. He's not suited to be your team's second or third best player, in the way the Cavs kinda sorta needed him to be... but as a 4th/5th option, I think he's really awesome.

Now, he obviously doesn't make them a title contender. They aren't better than the Lakers, Suns, Jazz, Nuggets, healthy Warriors. They're going to try to push the Mavs and the Kawhi-less Clippers for the 6 seed. It may still not be enough to make Lillard happy... but this is a savvy move that makes the team better, so we'll see.

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446. "No, but he’s an excellent 4th option or so on a team. "
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480. "Nance Jr is the best part of this entire trade scenario..."
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..Dame is gonna love having a hustler like him on the roster.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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447. "if jones jr can contribute at pf off the bench and we we get a mid-first"
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this is a big big win.

even if the pick is in the low 20's it's a win.

a mid to lowish 20's pick does seem like a fair deal for lauri on paper though. just not sure how he fits with the cavs (and don't care!).

  

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448. ""luka's been working on his cardio this offseason""
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luka:
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449. "Medicinal..."
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450. "OH NO NOT HOOKAH"
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481. "Luka Ray Doncic"
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"The ship be sinking"

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451. "Kevin Love: “Fuck you, pay me.”"
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He’s refusing a buyout from Cleveland. Wants to cash all 60 mil of what’s left on his deal. Good for him imo. Get that money.

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452. "Lol, reminds me of that Steve Nash quote…"
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does he have to take the last bit? Yes…I do. Every last bit.

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454. "As he, and any other player, should. "
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If you want that money, you deserve that money. Cleveland wanted to retain an all star when Bron and Kyrie left - as such, Loves play doesn’t ultimately matter. He’s obviously overpaid - but oh well. Same situation with so many players under contract. The power is in his hands. If he WANTS out, different story. But get the money and fuck these owners.

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455. "That's great but he can't complain about the team at the same time."
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456. "Ha fair."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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457. "Sure he can. "
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If your bosses suck and they owe you money, then bitch all you want while you cash those checks.

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460. "Yeah, nah"
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It's not like they're asking him to do some NFL shit and saying, "Hey, re-structure your deal so we can free up more money to bring in more players." They're saying, "Hey, let us give you less money than you're owed so we can cut you and get better in the future." Fuck that.

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461. "he has the contract and is owned the money but be a good vet sit on..."
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the bench and STFU and collect your money. The team sucks partially because of his dumbass contract. That's why the young stars they have drafted want to leave.

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462. "This absolutely isn't true. "
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>The team sucks
>partially because of his dumbass contract.

When Bron left, they had to start a team from scratch, because the entire supporting cast of players either left due to their short term deals expiring or were about to leave and just checked out (JR Smith, Jordan Clarkson). So the cupboard was completely bare.

The Cavs haven't signed a single free agent to a multi-year deal since Bron left IIRC. They've gone after such sterling single year free agents as John Henson and Brandon Knight. They extended Cedi Osman for four years. They traded for Dellavedova's contract. They traded for Drummond's massive contract and had to buy him out. Like... these are all bad moves. Really bad moves. Moves for an organization with no plan.

So if Kevin Love was putting up 28 and 15 annually, they would still be a lottery-bound team. If anything, they should thank him for sitting out, because it makes it that much more likely that they aren't accidentally good so they can keep accruing lotto picks for the next 2 years while Mobley builds muscle.

Besides, when they offered Love that dumbass contract, what's Love supposed to do? He's about to turn 30, he was playing in a league that increasingly values switchability or rim protection (neither of which he provides), and the Cavaliers had his Bird rights, so no team in free agency could've signed him for as much money as the Cavs were able to offer. He saw that the Cavs would be desperate to retain *somebody* from the Big 3 era, and he extracted maximum value from their desperation. Good for him.

>That's why the
>young stars they have drafted want to leave.

Let's look at why Colin Sexton might be pissed at the Cavs:

a) the Cavaliers draft him, then draft a player at the exact same position as him the following year. They try to play them both together, and it doesn't work, because, astonishingly, playing two 6'1 guards on the court is really bad. And Garland is the better 3-point shooter, better passer, and oddly enough better defender, so the Cavs are clearly more interested in him as their PG of the future (and aren't hiding that they're trying to trade Sexton).

b) he'll be due a new deal after this year, but the front office keeps spending all of their money on big men. Trading to pay Drummond nearly 60 mil over two years. Extending Love for 120 mil. Drafting Evan Mobley... and then immediately signing Jarrett Allen, who plays the same position as Mobley, and paying him 100 mil (?!?!). And yes, trading for Lauri Markannen and signing him for nearly 70 mil. Why would any guard think they'd get a massive deal from the Cavs? You only get money from the Cavs if you're 6'11+ (in a league where big men are decreasing in value!).

c) the Cavs have had four different coaches since he's arrived, so understandably, his development hasn't really gone according to plan. Yes, he's still a dynamite dribble-driver and shot creator for himself off the bounce, but he's not currently a very good passer, not currently any more than an average distance shooter, not currently a good defender (baffling considering what a dog he was at Alabama on that end), and not currently a player that's given teams anywhere an indication that he can help them win. So even if the Cavs trade him (they will) or let him walk, he's not getting a max deal either way in all likelihood.

d) Kevin Love is not currently playing basketball for the Cavs.

I'd think A, B, and C are waaaaaaay bigger deals.

If I were Mobley, I'd be pissed too, tbh. Even if Love is just paid to stay home, they're paying 100 mil to a guy who plays the same position as Mobley... and if they thought Mobley could play the 4 (which would be a waste imo), they then signed Markannen to a 4-year-deal too! So either they're just going to play Mobley over these guys, in which case it was a huge waste of money and what the fuck are the Cavs doing, or Mobley isn't going to play as much as possible, in which case what the fuck are the Cavs doing.

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453. "Grizzlies buy out Rondo…"
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Lakers reportedly the front runners.

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459. "Lakers…"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1432389496218263558?s=20

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463. "Ben: Imma head out…"
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https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1432786028977328129?s=20

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464. "Writing's been on the wall. I'd... love him in Portland."
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Trade CJ McCollum, Greg Brown, some young forward the Sixers might like (Nassir Little? Harry Giles? Trendon Watford? multiple? doesn't matter), and a future first rounder.

Philly would immediately get better by adding more shooting and ball handling. Plus they'd be extracting good value in a guard who could almost certainly contend for a guard All-Star spot in the East and however many potential young forwards that could come off the bench for energy.

Portland would immediately get *worlds* better defensively and adds versatility on both ends. Simmons doesn't really need to shoot on the court if he's got Lillard and Powell, not to mention guys like Covington and Nance who can also make stand-still 3s effectively. I'd like their chances to make a Top 4 seed in the West with Simmons over McCollum.

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465. "That works, but because Ben is spoiled, he probably ends up in "
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somewhere like OKC or Minnesota.

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466. "Minnesota already has a point guard that is better than Simmons"
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>somewhere like OKC or Minnesota.

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467. "Problem is that Minnesota starts three non-defenders."
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Shit, four if you include Beasley in that mix. Even if you like Minnesota's top three all better than Simmons, there's an argument to make a move for his defense, because Minnesota is once again staring down the barrel of some worst-in-the-NBA level defense.

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473. "Touché, Dlo is atrocious defensively "
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>Shit, four if you include Beasley in that mix. Even if you
>like Minnesota's top three all better than Simmons, there's an
>argument to make a move for his defense, because Minnesota is
>once again staring down the barrel of some worst-in-the-NBA
>level defense.

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468. "Morey *does* strike me as the type of dude..."
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... who will just punt off the asset for picks and shit to the shittiest team imaginable, just because he'd rather receive potential future value than unequal present-day value.

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469. "Cavaliers sign Tacko Fall-- another big man! Of course!"
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lol, what an absolute jooooooooke

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471. "It defies understanding. They're singularly incompetent."
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474. "Nets send DeAndre to DeTroit…"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1433889032291954691?s=20

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475. "I almost forgot Jah is still in the league tbh "
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479. "From National Champion... to NBA Champion?"
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Please, I pray to the Agenda Gods, let this happen. He can play 1 MPG for all I care, get my man an NBA ring.

(I don't expect him to make the final roster, tbh. They have a lot of center minutes accounted for and they want to make more uptempo than Jah can really handle. But a man can pray.)

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483. "Grand Opening…. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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485. "lol, hey, I called it in that post."
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They just have way too many players already, and they'll have any buyout candidate of value knocking on their door before the deadline. There's just not a reason to keep him, beyond my desire to see it happen, which frankly should've been given further consideration.

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476. "Anyone remember when Jordan was supposed to be the..."
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...third member of the Nets "Big 3" when KD and Kyrie signed there? Two years later and he's luxury tax write off. Injuries suck.

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477. "No. He was never touted part as a "Big 3" for the Nets."
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the Nets original plan was just Kyrie and KD along with Levert and the other guys that got traded away. Harden became available after he began pouting in Houston.

the only reason the Nets signed him was that he is close friends with KD and Kyrie, and he was leaving on a sour note with the Knicks.

>...third member of the Nets "Big 3" when KD and Kyrie signed
>there? Two years later and he's luxury tax write off. Injuries
>suck.

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478. "Everyone should've known this was going to happen."
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He was over 30, making a ton of money, and touting a "rim protector" efficacy that had been dwindling since, if we're being honest, his All-Star appearance in 2017. Yeah, the injuries didn't help... but it's also increasingly a league of spread offenses, and in terms of anchoring a defense and cleaning away all the problems in today's NBA, I'm not convinced he *ever* could've been that guy. It's such a different league than it was during his peak.

So yeah. I'm honestly surprised it took this long.

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482. "sheed said bron wouldnt ball out in his era."
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https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1435245811064057866

he must be talking about some variant cuz bron was in the league for like half sheeds career (and we all remember *that* series).

  

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484. "I mean DJ has nothing left right?"
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He can't be worse than Drummond. But also...he can.

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486. "He's better than Drummond, but neither can switch, obviously."
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I think you have to play him just like Dwight Howard. Short bursts off the bench, drop coverage, tell him "grab offensive boards, protect the rim, do literally nothing else." If they step beyond 3 feet from the rim, they are liabilities.

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488. "we need the depth, unlike Drummond who came in w/ expectations to start...."
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DJ knows he's going to be a bench player. Apparently Gasol had some gripes about coming off the bench last year even though he started the season out of shape. DJ was actually solid when the Nets played him in spot duty last year but Nash/Antoni were committed to small ball.

It gives us some versatility in the front court because well know AD is not exactly an Ironman and will continues his resistance to start at the 5 and we only have Melo behind him.

The default "lineup of death" in the postseason is Bron/AD at the 4/5 but we need the others to help us get there.

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487. "Looks like Marc Gasol is done with the NBA"
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Traded from LAL-> MEM to start his career and then to end it. Marc, 2nd rounder, and cash to Memphis for a dude who won't ever play in the NBA to save 10 mil.

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493. "Finally..."
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..I wish Gasol well.


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489. "Rockets are looking to trade Wall... without buying him out."
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aka John Wall will be sitting the entire season.

Without a buyout, there's no moving that contract. Two years of the fourth highest pay in the NBA, plus a third year with a player option for over 47 mil (which Wall will absolutely take). Like... zero shot he's getting moved without a buyout.

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490. "I really don't understand his thinking here."
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Like, he CAN still play - and he shouldn't take a buyout unless he wants to, of course - but how does NOT playing help him at all?

Without really understanding the marketplace - is there even a place that would/could trade for him, in the same way Horford was acquired by OKC?

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492. "Horford's guaranteed money in the next two seasons..."
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... is less than one of Wall's seasons.

And Wall has, with the player option, three years of money left on this deal.

So I get that he wants to preserve gas in his tank, and I get that Houston wants to straight up tank and get as many miles on these young players as possible. I think it's why they're both amicable about wanting to move on from each other.

... but it's not happening without a buyout. There's just zero chance. It's like 140 mil over the next three years for a guy that'll be turning 35 in that last year of the deal. No contender has that money lying around, and Wall likely isn't interested in going to some 25-win team so he can bust ass just to try to sneak them into the play-in.

I don't know what will happen.

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491. "Aaron Gordon signs a 4 year/92 mil extension with Denver…"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1437868295852548096?s=20

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494. "Got faked…."
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https://twitter.com/shamscharaiia/status/1438871440577777674?s=21

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496. "The Athletic has a history of "breaking" bogus stories"
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495. "JJ Redick announces retirement"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoZzAbwgRcU

  

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497. "One of the best 3-point shooters in basketball history. "
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Only four NBA players rank in the top 20 all-time in both 3-point makes and 3-point percentage: Steph, Klay, Kyle Korver, and JJ. Unreal considering where his NBA career started and how, late in his career, he kept peaking and re-peaking.

Also, on a personal note, one of my favorite players of all time. Went to school with him, watched him more times than I can count. Truly impressive how he went from being the most hated basketball player in America to being the beloved elder statesman of the game. An inspiration in terms of work ethic.

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498. "Gersson Rosas fired as T'wolves' president of basketball operations"
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32258607/gersson-rosas-minnesota-timberwolves-president-basketball-operations

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499. "Wiggins remains unvaccinated jeopardizing his availability for GS..."
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32261240/warriors-andrew-wiggins-remains-unvaccinated-source-says-jeopardizing-availability-golden-state

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500. "nigga finally shows some heart and commitment"
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and it aint with basketball.

  

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501. "lol..."
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>and it aint with basketball.

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502. "?"
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Played 71 of 72 games last season, is one of the most durable
players in the league, is now an outstanding defender, solid offensive
skills, a professional on and off the court....

and that is your comment?

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504. "It's a fucking joke, you insufferable buffoon"
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>Played 71 of 72 games last season, is one of the most
>durable
>players in the league, is now an outstanding defender, solid
>offensive
>skills, a professional on and off the court....
>
>and that is your comment?

jesus christ, are you really this dense and joyless?


  

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506. "There isn’t anything funny about questioning the heart"
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of a player who is a straight up player and person, and
especially when it comes to a player who played his heart
out for his team, when other players were in and out of the
lineup.

And thanks for the immature name calling. I can always count
on you to be infantile and combative, even when the situation
or subject doesn’t pertain to you.

If you need counseling, then I suggest you seek it. I’m not
interested in having any kind of interaction with you.

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510. "Get a sense of humor, you joyless. insufferably malignant twit"
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Scratch that. I wound up reading after the fact.

You know what's infantile and combative?
You know what's immature?

Being so overly, sternly serious that you treat a very clear and obvious roast as serious commentary- and then double down on that tight-fisted perspective even after it's been explained to you.

You're nowhere near that obtuse. It's intentional.

Far as that "counseling" bushit, nobody needs counseling because they respond to your insufferably humourless approach to quality humor.

  

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505. "lol"
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503. "lmao"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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507. "I read this in the voice of Tupac in Juice…"
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…finally decides to stand up like a man and throw down…too bad Raheem had to die, first

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508. "No comment on Kyrie?"
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509. "Not really surprised "
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511. "Add Brad Beal to the No Vaccine crew."
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https://twitter.com/avarwallace/status/1442552154871373827?s=20

Wiggins, Kyrie, Isaac, Beal. MPJ, probably. That's a hell of a No Vax lineup, tbh.

(Also, this is insanely depressing.)

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517. "Good for him and the rest. They can all sit down from here on out."
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512. "Zion gotta shed some pounds or he's heading to Brandon Royville"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/pelicans-star-zion-williamson-suffered-fractured-right-foot-in-offseason-workout-152902010.html


New Orleans Pelicans star Zion Williamson fractured his right foot during an offseason workout prior to summer league in early August, vice president of basketball operations David Griffin said on media day.


Williamson had the foot surgically repaired during the summer. Griffin, Pelicans general manager Trajan Langdon, first-year coach Willie Green and Aaron Nelson, the team's vice president of player care and performance, met with Williamson and his family on Sunday to establish a schedule for his return to play.

"His timeline should get him back on the court in time for the regular season," Griffin said during his media availability on Monday. "That would be our hope and our view, and we're very optimistic about what that looks like. Unfortunately, I know that's going to be taken as a very big negative for all of you. It's really not for us, because we were dealing with it all offseason, and we feel very confident about where things are."

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513. "Porter, Jr just got a 5 year 207 mill dollar max extension."
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Got damn, that’s damn near 50 mil a year. He is young and has great
offensive ability, but for a guy who is shit on defense and has a repaired back,
that’s a very risky investment.

That’s focking Giannis money....Giannis got 222 mil for five years.

So is Denver saying he is their franchise player?

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514. "I respect Denver going all in like this. "
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They realize this year could be tough because, even when Murray does return, he's going to be rusty. And they didn't want to risk MPJ being tempted to leave for a contender. They think Jokic/Murray/MPJ is good enough to win a title going forward.

Are they right? Time will tell, I guess. But in a league where so many teams shy away from spending unless they're already presently in title contention, I respect Denver for saying, "For better or worse, this is where we wanna be for the next 5 years." And that core is all still young, they can definitely build to something special if all breaks well.

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515. "Yup. They recognize what they've got. "
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Will MPJ be able to stay healthy? Who knows - but this is really a "We have a generational talent in Jokic and really great complementary pieces with a lot of upside. Time to push it all in the middle."

I respect the shit out of it.

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516. "right, didn't they give Gordon a deal too?"
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519. "Yep. They like their team, and they're paying to keep it together."
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The Gordon deal is the one I'd... personally be least crazy about, but I get it. They need players who can defend with their three stars, whose defensive acumen ranges from "mediocre" to "really bad." And they probably think Gordon's still young enough that, in Denver's impressive player development system, they could maybe squeeze more juice out of his offensive potential.

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520. "RE: Yep. They like their team, and they're paying to keep it together."
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>The Gordon deal is the one I'd... personally be least crazy
>about, but I get it. They need players who can defend with
>their three stars, whose defensive acumen ranges from
>"mediocre" to "really bad." And they probably think Gordon's
>still young enough that, in Denver's impressive player
>development system, they could maybe squeeze more juice out of
>his offensive potential.

I could see that, at the same time with those other 3 guys do they really need that much offense from him?

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525. "Not really, no. "
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>>The Gordon deal is the one I'd... personally be least crazy
>>about, but I get it. They need players who can defend with
>>their three stars, whose defensive acumen ranges from
>>"mediocre" to "really bad." And they probably think Gordon's
>>still young enough that, in Denver's impressive player
>>development system, they could maybe squeeze more juice out
>of
>>his offensive potential.
>
>I could see that, at the same time with those other 3 guys do
>they really need that much offense from him?

My problem is that, at least last year, Gordon's defense was more hypothetical than reality. He had negative defensive BPM, low defensive win shares, and per on/off numbers, the defense was more effective with him off the floor than with him on it.

That said, he only played 25 games with them, so clearly there's still potential once he's more fully in the system. But clearly the signing is all based on his raw potential in this system, his switchability, his athleticism and versatility in a front court with a center who is neither athletic nor switchable. I thought the price might have been a tad high or the years a tad long, especially because I think Denver would be a pretty attractive destination for a 4 that can defend and hustle alongside Jokic.

But again, they like where they're at, they want to pay to keep it together, and I respect that choice. Too many teams get cute when it comes to shelling out the big contracts, and Denver isn't playing.

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518. "He now has the 8th richest contract in NBA history and "
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is the highest paid player on the team, and he has never made an allStar
team or all NBA team.

They are banking on potential. It’s a huge gamble. I’m
not saying he will not live up to that contract, but he will now
have a target on his back by the fans and players to live up
to the amount of money he is being paid.

He is being paid mega superstar money, and he is the third option
on his team at the moment.

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521. "RE: He now has the 8th richest contract in NBA history and "
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>He is being paid mega superstar money, and he is the third
>option
>on his team at the moment.

is he?

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522. "Yes."
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Murray and Jokic are the pgs of the team, so they are going
to dominate the possessions by default.

A point guard and point center on the floor , with porter being
the option 3 wing player ( for the moment).

We don’t know what the future holds, but right now he is the third option.

Players with 200 million dollar contracts:

Curry
Westbrook
Gobert
Young
Doncic
Giannis
Porter, jr....

One of those players don’t belong...maybe 2


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524. "They did a breakdown on his contract on ESPN."
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It’s an incentive based contract. If he makes an all nba team, fulfilling the incentive, that would push his contract to 207 million. So it’s a 5 year/172 million dollar deal with an incentive to make up to 207 million. It’s still the 8 richest contract in total.

Now that makes more sense. He does have the
POTENTIAL to be a superstar player.

But with his repaired back , it makes that deal extremely risky.
That’s still a huge ass contract.

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523. "Robin Lopez is doing his own research"
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Lololol
http://twitter.com/wutangkids/status/1442675387314671617?s=21

  

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526. "Lmao!"
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527. "My fellow Fresno + Treegang reprsentative nm"
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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529. "yeah I low key cringe at some of these other dudes that barely completed..."
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1 year of college talking about they have to do their "research" like really fam? You're going to find out something all these drs and people with multiple degrees haven't?

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528. "andrew wiggins did his research."
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and found out half his salary is a lot less than all of his salary.

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530. "I don't care how he got there, as long as he got the vaccine"
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534. "RE: I don't care how he got there, as long as he got the vaccine"
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32341148/warriors-andrew-wiggins-explains-decision-get-covid-19-vaccine-options-were-get-vaccinated-not-play-nba

  

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535. "Luckily, he still gave a big and totally dumbassed public rant. "
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https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1445254304005115904?s=20
https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1445255608983162887?s=20

What a colossal moron.

I do find it kind of interesting that Kyrie and Wiggins are getting the most publicity about this-- one of whom is stupidly unvaccinated but refusing to talk about it, the other who is reluctantly vaccinated but is ranting like a dopey child about it-- but Brad Beal is going completely under the radar, despite being an All-Star who's also publicly saying stupid shit about the vaccine.

I guess that's the power of being on the Wizards. No one gives a shit about anything you do or say.

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536. "LOL what does he think epi pens are made of?"
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Liquified kale and ginger??

And who does he think made them?


These dudes who won't take the vax cuz they are "all natural" amaze me.

The shit they will put into their bodies + the trust they put into the medical community on literally every other topic....how do they not see that they are fill of shit?



  

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545. "i DAMN NEAR CHOKED "
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from this apple and banana i'm eating (healthy snack today) reading that shit...

liquified kale and ginger.

*living*


i'm glad dude got the shot. but dayum.

it's a nice fall day. me and the fam about to go to the farm and pick some ephinephrine berries.


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538. "Yeah, of course he goes and says more really dumb shit"
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>I do find it kind of interesting that Kyrie and Wiggins are
>getting the most publicity about this-- one of whom is
>stupidly unvaccinated but refusing to talk about it, the other
>who is reluctantly vaccinated but is ranting like a dopey
>child about it-- but Brad Beal is going completely under the
>radar, despite being an All-Star who's also publicly saying
>stupid shit about the vaccine.
>
>I guess that's the power of being on the Wizards. No one gives
>a shit about anything you do or say.

Part of it is what you said: Kyrie is in the biggest media market in the world and on the presumptive favorites for the NBA title. Wiggins is in one of the NBA's biggest markets and on one of the last decade's most successful teams. No one cares about the Wizards.

The other part is that Kyrie and Wiggins are on two of the three teams where not being vaccinated would effect their ability to play home games. If Kyrie were still in Cleveland and Wiggins was still on the Wolves, this wouldn't be as big of a deal, because neither of those cities have ordinances that prevent them from entering their home stadium.

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537. "*stands in this lane*"
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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546. "empirical evidence shows that research >> fucking around >>>>>"
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finding out.

so he got to the right answer in the end.


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531. "Looking the current Pels roster, does Zion really try and rush back?"
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532. "He shouldn't, no. "
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533. "No sir"
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540. "Suns don’t want to offer Ayton the max…"
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https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/10/05/report-suns-not-offering-deandre-ayton-max-contract-extension/

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541. "Their owner is gonna fuck this up, lol. "
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542. "I sorta get the hesitation but Aytons gonna get paid "
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Sarver can’t help himself tho can he

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543. "Phoenix needs to follow Denver."
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These are not organizations that are traditional contenders, and they aren't traditional free agent destinations. Even if you're well-run, well-coached, and well-regarded for your player development, annual contention just... isn't guaranteed. Look at Toronto now. Hell, look at San Antonio now.

So if you're Phoenix, if you give a shit at *all* about winning a title? You have to go all in. You have to pay the big money now and worry later.

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544. "100% agree"
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Ayton has gotten better every year and can be a legit DPOY contender. He also seems to be a perfect fit with CP3/Book - not to mention that it's not exactly an overpay if literally any team who had him would max him. It's insane they think they should save money when they have a team that JUST went to the Finals.

Like, okay - do you think you should have drafted Luka? Not Ayton's fault. Pay the man.

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548. "Ayton is going to get the Max. It just might not be with the Suns."
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The reporting I heard mentioned that Ayton's camp feels he deserves the Max because other players of his class have gotten the Max - Luka, Trae, MPJ, and another player I can't recall.

For as much as Ayton progressed in a short amount of time, comparing himself to Trae or Luka is a bit of hubris.

But the way the league is going, players of Ayton's abilities and production are gonna get the Max. If he hits the restricted free agency, he's gonna get the Max.

Yes, he's not Luka or Trae (yet). But he's shown he's able to contribute to winning in a way that MPJ hasn't. And he just got Maxed out.

And Longo's right that overpaying for top talent is just the tax of being a small-market team.

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547. "Dubs looking like they might be a problem. only preseason, and only"
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2 games, but if them cats stay shooting like THAT?


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549. "they got some active rim runners now."
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its gonna be fun seeing steph drive and feed kuminga, wise, etc like trae does with collins, capela, etc...especially if steph can disguise the floater/alley like trae does.

and jordan poole be looking flat out unstoppable at times. he had his moments last season too...but if he can consistently give them offense off that bench like that...then this team is gonna be hard to handle.

  

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