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"Team USA about to lose to Nigeria?"


          

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Congrats Coach Mike Brown!
Jul 10th 2021
1
Right. And I don't want to hear shit about it just being an exhibition
Jul 10th 2021
2
Soon as I seen this, I knew shit wasn't sweet.
Jul 10th 2021
3
Yup. No gloating. Just a block and business.
Jul 10th 2021
6
They went right back to that 2004 team building mentality.
Jul 10th 2021
4
"KD is the best player in the world."
Jul 10th 2021
7
Play Jerami more
Jul 10th 2021
5
and when the Finals are over Brook Lopez should have Kevin Love's spot
Jul 10th 2021
8
      Love played less than anyone today.
Jul 10th 2021
9
           RE: Love played less than anyone today.
Jul 11th 2021
11
                He wasn’t playing well.
Jul 11th 2021
12
If your opponent shoots 48% from 3 on 42 attempts?
Jul 10th 2021
10
We’re making posts about exhibition games now?
Jul 11th 2021
13
What if Nigeria had Giannis?
Jul 11th 2021
14
Absolutely Pathetic. They picked on Lillard hard in the 4th too
Jul 11th 2021
15
Jrue and Khris at least each play defense.
Jul 11th 2021
16
where are the big men in American basketball? Bam Adebayo who played...
Jul 12th 2021
17
bout to lose to Australia SMH!
Jul 12th 2021
18
91-83 smfh
Jul 12th 2021
19
Hollinger had a great point on Twitter re: USA/Canada’s struggles.
Jul 12th 2021
21
      The end
Jul 12th 2021
24
      facts...
Jul 12th 2021
25
      The Redeem Team era teams had continuity.
Jul 12th 2021
27
           that's why I don't think Pop is a good coach for Team USA...
Jul 12th 2021
28
They miss Captain Carmelo
Jul 12th 2021
20
Bad karma for that “distraction” bullshit
Jul 12th 2021
29
So are these dudes about to waste a summer playing ISO ball and
Jul 12th 2021
22
RE: So are these dudes about to waste a summer playing ISO ball and
Jul 13th 2021
33
International teams also have NBA players.
Jul 12th 2021
23
they should still be able to beat Joe Ingles & Patty Mills
Jul 12th 2021
26
Here’s the question. Will they beat Argentina today?
Jul 13th 2021
30
Put it this way: if they lose today...
Jul 13th 2021
31
it will be interesting, Argentina was the 4th ranked team coming in but....
Jul 13th 2021
32
No Tatum no problem. Was that the get right game?
Jul 13th 2021
34
      I don't know, Argentina isn't as good as it was in the past, Scola might...
Jul 14th 2021
35
           Nigeria smoked them like we did
Jul 14th 2021
36
You mofos are disgusting,
Jul 14th 2021
37
and if they don't?
Jul 14th 2021
38
Beal in "healthy and safety" protocols? Book better hurry up
Jul 15th 2021
39
Beal out, maybe Jerami Grant too...
Jul 15th 2021
40
Trae Young channels Isiah Thomas with apparent idea on Team USA...
Jul 15th 2021
41
That Zeke clip will never get old. Never
Jul 15th 2021
42
      "I met the criteria to be selected, but I wasn't."
Jul 16th 2021
45
USA vs Australia cancelled.
Jul 15th 2021
43
Women's team has some drama too, the National team lost to the WNBA...
Jul 16th 2021
44
Apparently Elizabeth Williams of the Atlanta Dream was also denied...
Jul 16th 2021
46
The MVP can’t get a spot?? Ridiculous
Jul 16th 2021
49
      she was MVP in 2016 and was snubbed then, after this second time...
Jul 16th 2021
51
KLove out. “Still recovering from calf injury” per Woj Twitter
Jul 16th 2021
47
hasn't he been dealing with that same injury for a while?
Jul 16th 2021
48
its time for Jerry Colangelo to step down too, he has definitely fucked....
Jul 16th 2021
50
It would dope if they could bring in Zion.
Jul 16th 2021
52
      RE: It would dope if they could bring in Zion.
Jul 16th 2021
53
           Fat Zion better than more a third of the roster tho.
Jul 16th 2021
56
JaVale McGee and Keldon Johnson added to the roster.
Jul 16th 2021
54
Well that should do it
Jul 16th 2021
55
      Yeah, Javale is a WILD pick. They’re getting turned down everywhere.
Jul 16th 2021
57
           nobody wants to play for Pop like nobody wanted to play for LB
Jul 16th 2021
58
           nobody wants to play in empty stadiums while in a tokyo bubble
Jul 16th 2021
61
           that's true also...
Jul 16th 2021
62
                I don't know if that's exactly true.
Jul 16th 2021
65
                exactly, LMA is the ONLY major FA the Spurs have signed in 25 years?
Jul 16th 2021
66
                     I mean, they kind of had a lot of money committed to stars
Jul 16th 2021
67
                          what about now?
Jul 16th 2021
68
                               They have money this offseason.
Jul 16th 2021
69
                                    lol…
Jul 16th 2021
70
                                         What in the world does that have to do with what I said
Jul 16th 2021
71
                                              you're talking like Tim Duncan just retired lol
Jul 16th 2021
73
                                                   No I’m not.
Jul 17th 2021
75
                                                        the Spurs have gotten progressively worse since he retired
Jul 17th 2021
77
                                                             would you like to stay on topic or is that too hard for you
Jul 17th 2021
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                                                                  nobody wants to play for Pop like nobody wanted to play for LB
Jul 17th 2021
79
                serious fan fiction vibes lol
Jul 19th 2021
95
           Pop’s got nothing to do with this
Jul 16th 2021
63
                nobody wanted to play for him in 2019 BEFORE COVID
Jul 16th 2021
64
                     Does anyone really care about non-Olympic competition?
Jul 16th 2021
72
                          look at previous FIBA World Championship rosters
Jul 16th 2021
74
           I don't blame the players from turning this down one bit.
Jul 16th 2021
59
                exactly, that too...
Jul 16th 2021
60
                I’m pissed Durant is playing….I need him healthy going into 21-22 $$...
Jul 17th 2021
76
                     fuckin up your ticket values? lmao
Jul 19th 2021
88
                          Lol & I want the nets to be healthy when the Pistons come to town
Jul 26th 2021
121
USA vs Spain on now. NBCSN
Jul 18th 2021
80
yep they're trying to give us work too lol
Jul 18th 2021
81
      Javale can’t get no bump?! Damn
Jul 18th 2021
82
LaVine placed in COVID-19 protocols, won't fly to Tokyo with team...
Jul 19th 2021
83
At what point is this a horrible idea
Jul 19th 2021
84
the Olympics themselves or having training camp in Las Vegas?
Jul 19th 2021
85
      Both.
Jul 19th 2021
87
      After punting in 2020 no way were they not doing it this year
Jul 19th 2021
90
           The way this is going they might not.
Jul 19th 2021
91
                like everything it comes down money, should we be having packed arenas.....
Jul 19th 2021
92
                     No of course not
Jul 19th 2021
93
      YES!
Jul 19th 2021
89
zach had covid in april. not sure what the situation is in this case
Jul 19th 2021
86
Good grief.
Jul 19th 2021
94
France closes game on 16-2 run to beat USA
Jul 25th 2021
96
Pathetic. Unacceptable
Jul 25th 2021
97
Some said folks were overreacting to the exhibition games. Now what?
Jul 25th 2021
98
They let Evan Fournier somehow become Jordan. Crazy to watch.
Jul 25th 2021
99
Random thoughts and excuses
Jul 25th 2021
100
Fournier is actually a very, very not bad NBA player, though.
Jul 25th 2021
110
Finger has to be pointed at coaching.
Jul 25th 2021
101
Eh, talent isn’t at the same level
Jul 25th 2021
102
      Sure, but compare this year's roster to present competition.
Jul 25th 2021
104
           Point guard
Jul 26th 2021
128
                That'd be a bigger issue if none of these guys were good passers.
Jul 28th 2021
138
And to think I almost woke up early to watch
Jul 25th 2021
103
I woke up early and spent 30 mins tryna find peacock
Jul 25th 2021
107
embarrasing. this about to be a stain on Pop legacy
Jul 25th 2021
105
as it should be
Jul 25th 2021
112
"My next chapter" - Kevin Durant
Jul 25th 2021
118
Still lmaoing at Draymond being on this team
Jul 25th 2021
106
Lol…. Mascot
Jul 25th 2021
114
      lol it’s hilarious how hard people try to extoll his basketball “gen...
Jul 25th 2021
116
           Umm he was a defensive dynamo this season, fuck y'all talking about
Jul 26th 2021
119
                🤣 at “dynamo”
Jul 26th 2021
120
                that's pretty good company.
Jul 26th 2021
124
                     Agreed , they are all overrated except for Kat and Bron.
Jul 26th 2021
126
                          You're not going to refute Harden being over-rated?
Jul 28th 2021
140
                He was easily the best defender on a Top 5 defense this season.
Jul 26th 2021
123
                     *yawn*
Jul 26th 2021
125
                          You don't like Draymond. We get it.
Jul 26th 2021
127
                               The warriors finished 9th in the West with Draymonds defensive greatness...
Jul 28th 2021
134
I feel like the US has problems when we try to play "international ...
Jul 25th 2021
108
what a silly PTI level thing to say lmao
Jul 25th 2021
109
     
Jul 25th 2021
111
      all the analysts on tv are basically saying the same thing I said, Pop's...
Jul 26th 2021
122
First loss since 2004?
Jul 25th 2021
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RE: First loss since 2004?
Jul 25th 2021
117
      Some of these international teams are NBA caliber
Jul 28th 2021
139
They looked a little too passive to me. Passing up open shots
Jul 25th 2021
115
Foul hunting only works in the NBA
Jul 27th 2021
129
Also, Zion should be on this team
Jul 27th 2021
130
good point about trying to draw fouls like its the NBA
Jul 27th 2021
131
not only that, Zion draws LEGIT fouls that the NBA refs ignore.
Jul 27th 2021
132
do the Pelicans want Zion there?
Jul 27th 2021
133
It's not clear that Zion wants to be on this team.
Jul 28th 2021
137
      yeah, that’s a good point
Jul 28th 2021
142
Starting to think Coach K should be coaching this team
Jul 28th 2021
135
definitely not Pop, his style doesn't fit with Team USA, if people are.....
Jul 28th 2021
136
Did Kwahi pull back the curtain on Pop?
Jul 28th 2021
143
      he should've retired with Duncan but ego wouldn't let him
Jul 28th 2021
144
they miss Assistant Coach Boeheim and Captain Carmelo
Jul 28th 2021
141
People acting like Coack K didnt have the best players on the planet. Lo...
Jul 28th 2021
145
      I hate Coach K but he let players play, not that old Larry Brown make 5....
Jul 28th 2021
146

ThaTruth
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1. "Congrats Coach Mike Brown!"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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2. "Right. And I don't want to hear shit about it just being an exhibition"
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3. "Soon as I seen this, I knew shit wasn't sweet."
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https://twitter.com/MarcoRomo_/status/1414022436409036804

It was just an exhibition but it should serve as a wake up call. This ain't the 90s. The gap between the US and the rest of the world ain't anywhere near as wide as it used to be.

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6. "Yup. No gloating. Just a block and business. "
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Even when they won the Nigerian team acted like it wasnt no thing. Very impressive.

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4. "They went right back to that 2004 team building mentality. "
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You cant just throw a bunch of NBA players and shooting guards together and think it will work. It still has to be built with cohesion and accurate players at each position. Though so many players opted out im not sure they had much of a choice.

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7. ""KD is the best player in the world.""
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5. "Play Jerami more"
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*I have no idea how much he actually played. But play him more.

  

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8. "and when the Finals are over Brook Lopez should have Kevin Love's spot"
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9. "Love played less than anyone today."
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And Lopez wouldn’t have played either against a team hellbent on tossing up perimeter shots all game. They played Precious Achiuwa at center— neither Love nor Lopez has the agility or speed to hang with a small ball 5 like that.

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11. "RE: Love played less than anyone today."
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>And Lopez wouldn’t have played either against a team
>hellbent on tossing up perimeter shots all game. They played
>Precious Achiuwa at center— neither Love nor Lopez has the
>agility or speed to hang with a small ball 5 like that.

So what was Bam doing? His dad is Nigerian so did he throw it?

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12. "He wasn’t playing well. "
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I’m not especially surprised to see some of these guys that haven’t represented USA on a big stage like this before struggle due to phoning it in versus a team they should easily beat. Bam, Dame, LaVine, and Beal and Tatum haven’t played for USA since, like, the U-19s or something. Of course, all of them struggling together wasn’t especially likely, nor was the opponent shooting 48% from 3 on a billion shots—but still.

Durant *has* to be the experienced leader and take over games like this, but he too probably heard “scrimmage” and thought “fuck it.” To a lesser extent, the team needs Draymond to be a vocal leader too for the defense. And whether it’s fair to Bam or not, he’s *got* to carry a ton of the defense on his shoulders as easily USA’s most talented and versatile big. He can’t be our main big and get beat up by guys like Achiuwa and Okpala.

I don’t expect this sort of “I don’t give a shit” vibe to carry over into the games that count, for whatever that’s worth. Still embarrassing, still shouldn’t have happened.

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10. "If your opponent shoots 48% from 3 on 42 attempts? "
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You’re gonna lose. Not complicated.

Nigeria shot 12-31 from 2… and 20-42 from 3! Bonkers, lmao. How you gonna shoot 38% from 2 and 48% from 3? So wild.

Anyway. Good wake up call for USA. 100% chance that most international teams know that the recipe to beating USA is the same recipe so many mid-majors use against high-majors in college: toss up a ton of 3s and hope for a good shooting night. Like, you just *can’t* assume, at a time when more elite 3-point shooters exist than ever before in basketball history, that an inferior opponent will miss enough shots that you can just out-talent them on offense with some my turn, your turn stuff.

Of course, it’s also super unlikely that your opponent shoots 48% from 3 on a massive volume, lol. But hey, shit *can* happen. Guys like Dame need to give a fuck about contesting 3s, otherwise some squad can absolutely sneak up on USA by tossing in a fuckton of 3s. Especially now, every team will try to replicate this. Defend the goddamn perimeter some, lol.

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13. "We’re making posts about exhibition games now?"
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The purpose of an exhibition game is to build chemistry, learn the offense,
and to get a concept of what the starting lineup is going to be.

Those are the types of takes that should be given. The first Dream
Team was beaten by college kids in practice, and people didn’t really find
out about that until a documentary was released on the team.


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14. "What if Nigeria had Giannis?"
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15. "Absolutely Pathetic. They picked on Lillard hard in the 4th too"
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had the Copa final on the tv but i had this on the 2nd screen. they got a lot to work on that I dont think Booker/Jrue/Khris/Bropez (is Bropez on the team?) really solve other than adding more numbers

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16. "Jrue and Khris at least each play defense."
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But yeah, I think the Lillard defense concerns in international play are real unless he's going Dame Time Mode. Too many teams understand that he's a weak link on the perimeter that can be bullied-- and without someone like Anthony Davis or whoever who can both protect the rim *and* switch on the perimeter, you're left with either (a) choosing drop coverage, where teams that can shoot (i.e. most international teams) can pick you apart, or (b) choosing all switchability, which is a good idea... but best believe the weak link better not suck, or he's gonna get fried repeatedly.

I *do* think Dame can be a little more feisty in the actual play-- again, the team just looked to be coasting for much of the game, and USA would be favored over Nigeria by more than 20 in a game that counted. But yeah, there are lessons to be taken from this, both by USA and by USA's competition.

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17. "where are the big men in American basketball? Bam Adebayo who played..."
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for the US but has a Nigerian father and could've been on the other side...

Giannis is called the "Greek" freak but his parents are from Nigeria...

Embiid is from Cameroon...

Clint Capela was born in Switzerland but his parents are from Africa...

Rudy Gobert is from France...

Deandre Ayton is from the Bahamas...

KAT's mother is Dominican and he played for their national team...

Nikola Jokić is from Serbia...

Domantas Sabonis was born in Portland but obviously his father is from Lithuania...

I could go on, Vučević, Valančiūnas, Kristaps Porziņģis, Nurkić, Kanter...

Why is it that American players shy away from the center position? Is it still the Shaq effect? Is Kevin Love really the best we have?

The best American born big man is probably Anthony Davis and he is adamant about "not being a center"...

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18. "bout to lose to Australia SMH!"
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this team in trouble if these reinforcements dont hit right

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19. "91-83 smfh"
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imma need Beal, Tatum, Lavine to humble themselves and focus on hard D and rebounding. somebody gotta suck it up and do the dirty work like Kobe did for team USA

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21. "Hollinger had a great point on Twitter re: USA/Canada’s struggles."
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He pointed out that a lot of these less talented teams have been playing together literally since they were teenagers, for like 10-15 years. In these early matchups and/or scrimmage situations, you can’t just assume that the team with the most talent and far less experience playing together can phone in a win against a squad that knows their rotations, knows their cut timings, knows their teammates’ ins and outs flawlessly.

USA will still be the favorite to win gold irrespective of these scrimmages. But they are definitely learning a valuable lesson. If they don’t get on the same page as soon as they can, shit’s gonna get real in a way they can’t just talent their way back from.

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24. "The end"
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>USA will still be the favorite to win gold irrespective of
>these scrimmages. But they are definitely learning a valuable
>lesson. If they don’t get on the same page as soon as they
>can, shit’s gonna get real in a way they can’t just talent
>their way back from.

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25. "facts..."
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>He pointed out that a lot of these less talented teams have
>been playing together literally since they were teenagers, for
>like 10-15 years. In these early matchups and/or scrimmage
>situations, you can’t just assume that the team with the
>most talent and far less experience playing together can phone
>in a win against a squad that knows their rotations, knows
>their cut timings, knows their teammates’ ins and outs
>flawlessly.

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27. "The Redeem Team era teams had continuity. "
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That was a key reason why they played well.

Recently, it's been hard to get players to commit cycle-to-cycle. I have no real idea why. But the lack of in-game experience between players may come back to hurt Team USA.

Rolling the ball out there and expecting blowouts for Team USA just isn't a reality now.

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28. "that's why I don't think Pop is a good coach for Team USA..."
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>That was a key reason why they played well.
>
>Recently, it's been hard to get players to commit
>cycle-to-cycle. I have no real idea why. But the lack of
>in-game experience between players may come back to hurt Team
>USA.
>
>Rolling the ball out there and expecting blowouts for Team USA
>just isn't a reality now.

he is more of a "system coach" and players don't have time to learn or by into his system

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20. "They miss Captain Carmelo"
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29. "Bad karma for that “distraction” bullshit"
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http://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/08/carmelo-anthony-denied-team-usa-chance

  

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22. "So are these dudes about to waste a summer playing ISO ball and "
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jacking up 3's? While playing little defense? didn't watch but I assume this is the case.

some of these guys would be better served taking a full summer off to work on their individual games if that's the case. might as well go play in the drew in la and not waste the time in empty stadiums and a tokyo olympic village bubble. that shit is a significant tease. being in one of the most incredible cities in the world but not being able to do shit. but i digress.

  

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33. "RE: So are these dudes about to waste a summer playing ISO ball and "
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>jacking up 3's? While playing little defense?

that's pretty much what happened
draymond basically ran point when he was in the game but had several turnovers

  

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23. "International teams also have NBA players."
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They are not going up against untalented players.

Chill out.

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26. "they should still be able to beat Joe Ingles & Patty Mills"
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30. "Here’s the question. Will they beat Argentina today?"
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31. "Put it this way: if they lose today..."
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... I bet their Vegas odds at winning gold will fall to somewhere between -250 and -300, and Daddy might have to hammer that, lol. Scrimmage issues or no, that would be a *bonkers* line for a Team USA team that has at least five of the best ten players in the field.

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32. "it will be interesting, Argentina was the 4th ranked team coming in but...."
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they lost by 23 to Nigeria a couple of das ago so who knows

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34. "No Tatum no problem. Was that the get right game?"
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35. "I don't know, Argentina isn't as good as it was in the past, Scola might..."
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still be their best player and he's like 40

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36. "Nigeria smoked them like we did"
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Then Australia smoked Nigeria

So I guess the good thing is at least we didn’t lose a 3rd time. Hopefully they are figuring some things out

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37. "You mofos are disgusting, "
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and deserve to have Sri Lanka as a basketball team.

You guys are such shallow spectators....When they win gold,
y’all better sit there and not say shit!


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38. "and if they don't?"
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>When they win gold,
>y’all better sit there and not say shit!

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39. "Beal in "healthy and safety" protocols? Book better hurry up"
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40. "Beal out, maybe Jerami Grant too..."
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https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31823595/bradley-beal-expected-miss-olympics-jerami-grant-enters-protocols-sources-say

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41. "Trae Young channels Isiah Thomas with apparent idea on Team USA..."
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https://news.yahoo.com/trae-young-channels-isiah-thomas-has-ideas-about-who-should-replace-bradley-beal-on-team-usa-001406704.html

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45. ""I met the criteria to be selected, but I wasn't.""
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43. "USA vs Australia cancelled. "
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Taking no chances

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44. "Women's team has some drama too, the National team lost to the WNBA..."
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All-Stars in the WNBA all-star game.

The Sparks Nneka Owguimike, a 6-time All-Star and former league MVP was selected for neither team, the first league MVP to never play in the Olympics.

Then she was told she couldn't play for Nigeria in the Olympics where she has dual-citizenship because she had played for other FIBA teams with the US?

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46. "Apparently Elizabeth Williams of the Atlanta Dream was also denied..."
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the opportunity to play for team Nigeria for similar reasons as NNeka...

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31818962/let-nneka-ogwumike-play-nigeria-fiba-bad-decision-bad-basketball

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49. "The MVP can’t get a spot?? Ridiculous "
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51. "she was MVP in 2016 and was snubbed then, after this second time..."
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of not being selected for the US Olympic she should be allowed to play for whomever she wants

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47. "KLove out. “Still recovering from calf injury” per Woj Twitter"
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48. "hasn't he been dealing with that same injury for a while?"
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50. "its time for Jerry Colangelo to step down too, he has definitely fucked...."
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the dog on this one and there is no Michael, Kobe or Lebron to bail him out.

They need to be on phone with Trae and Julius ASAP.

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52. "It would dope if they could bring in Zion."
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But you know that dude ain't in no types of playing shape.

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53. "RE: It would dope if they could bring in Zion."
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>But you know that dude ain't in no types of playing shape.

he's probably sitting over a shrimp po' boy with a bowl of gumbo and a plate of praline beignets right now lol

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56. "Fat Zion better than more a third of the roster tho."
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Let him play with buttery fingers, IDGAF, lol.

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54. "JaVale McGee and Keldon Johnson added to the roster."
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1416078483168665606

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55. "Well that should do it"
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57. "Yeah, Javale is a WILD pick. They’re getting turned down everywhere."
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58. "nobody wants to play for Pop like nobody wanted to play for LB"
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61. "nobody wants to play in empty stadiums while in a tokyo bubble"
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the best part about being in tokyo is hanging out in tokyo. these guys will only see tokyo from the bus. i wouldn't want anything to do with these olympics either.

and who doesn't like pop? seriously? has anyone ever spoken poorly of the guy?

  

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62. "that's true also..."
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>the best part about being in tokyo is hanging out in tokyo.
>these guys will only see tokyo from the bus. i wouldn't want
>anything to do with these olympics either.
>
>and who doesn't like pop? seriously? has anyone ever spoken
>poorly of the guy?

despite his winning tenure free agents haven't exactly flocked to go play for him.

Most of the modern players don't take well to his leadership style. It worked well in San Antonio because it started with David Robinson who was a military guy that fell in line and he passed that mentality down to Duncan.

Kawhi couldn't wait to get away from there. He had success with those guys putting foreign guys around them and when that ran out you see what the Spurs' record has been the last couple of years.

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65. "I don't know if that's exactly true."
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Aldridge was a marquee free agent when he signed there.

Kawhi did bolt, but I was always under the impression that was his dissatisfaction with how they handled his injury, which was clearly worse than they thought it was. To my knowledge they haven't really had cap space to be in the mix for any FA's post LMA. Perhaps people don't like Pop, but let's not act like they've continually struck out on people.

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66. "exactly, LMA is the ONLY major FA the Spurs have signed in 25 years?"
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67. "I mean, they kind of had a lot of money committed to stars"
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Due to drafting well.

They went from DRob to DRob/TD to TD/Manu/TP to TD/Manu/TP/Kawhi and then signed a premiere FA when the opportunity was there.

Granted, the other time I can remember a FA flirting with SA was Kidd back after the Nets lost to them in the Finals. Kinda makes sense that DIDNT happen but it didn't seem like Pop was a real issue. I dunno - maybe he was - but let's not act like they had a bunch of cap space they had to spend like ever. They had a bunch of all stars.

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68. "what about now?"
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69. "They have money this offseason. "
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We’ll see.

I’m just saying you can’t really in earnest say that about the Duncan spurs.

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70. "lol…"
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>We’ll see.
>
>I’m just saying you can’t really in earnest say that about
>the Duncan spurs.

Tim Duncan has been retired for 5 years he’s in the HOF

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71. "What in the world does that have to do with what I said"
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73. "you're talking like Tim Duncan just retired lol"
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75. "No I’m not. "
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You mentioned 25 years of the Spurs. He was there for what…19 of them?

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77. "the Spurs have gotten progressively worse since he retired"
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78. "would you like to stay on topic or is that too hard for you"
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79. "nobody wants to play for Pop like nobody wanted to play for LB"
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95. "serious fan fiction vibes lol"
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>
>despite his winning tenure free agents haven't exactly flocked
>to go play for him.
>
>Most of the modern players don't take well to his leadership
>style. It worked well in San Antonio because it started with
>David Robinson who was a military guy that fell in line and he
>passed that mentality down to Duncan.
>
>Kawhi couldn't wait to get away from there. He had success
>with those guys putting foreign guys around them and when that
>ran out you see what the Spurs' record has been the last
>couple of years.

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63. "Pop’s got nothing to do with this"
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The weirdest olympics + COVID is popping off in Tokyo + a short offseason + many stars are injured.

  

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64. "nobody wanted to play for him in 2019 BEFORE COVID"
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72. "Does anyone really care about non-Olympic competition?"
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Team USA basketball is as close to a guarantee to getting Olympic gold as you can get, regardless of who is coaching. And even if you hate the coach, you only gotta deal with him for like a month and you get a medal out of the deal. Why would the top stars care about any other tournament if they can just join on when it really matters? This year is just a weird exception for the reasons I listed. That’s why people are shocked that Durant joined on and Booker is still going to.

  

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74. "look at previous FIBA World Championship rosters"
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59. "I don't blame the players from turning this down one bit."
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The COVID situation in Japan is much much worse than it is in America right now. It seems as if playing in the Olympics is a worse version of playing in the bubble in terms of the solitude the players are subjected to. Can't venture out and see Japan and they have to play without fans in the stands. And the players aren't getting paid for it? And they have to eat into their off-season time to rest up and/or improve to their skillsets and/or bulk up with a good strength and training regimen?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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60. "exactly, that too..."
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>The COVID situation in Japan is much much worse than it is in
>America right now. It seems as if playing in the Olympics is a
>worse version of playing in the bubble in terms of the
>solitude the players are subjected to. Can't venture out and
>see Japan and they have to play without fans in the stands.
>And the players aren't getting paid for it? And they have to
>eat into their off-season time to rest up and/or improve to
>their skillsets and/or bulk up with a good strength and
>training regimen?

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76. "I’m pissed Durant is playing….I need him healthy going into 21-22 $$..."
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>The COVID situation in Japan is much much worse than it is in
>America right now. It seems as if playing in the Olympics is a
>worse version of playing in the bubble in terms of the
>solitude the players are subjected to. Can't venture out and
>see Japan and they have to play without fans in the stands.
>And the players aren't getting paid for it? And they have to
>eat into their off-season time to rest up and/or improve to
>their skillsets and/or bulk up with a good strength and
>training regimen?

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88. "fuckin up your ticket values? lmao"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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121. "Lol & I want the nets to be healthy when the Pistons come to town"
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>


So there’s no excuse when we beat them

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80. "USA vs Spain on now. NBCSN"
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81. "yep they're trying to give us work too lol"
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82. "Javale can’t get no bump?! Damn"
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83. " LaVine placed in COVID-19 protocols, won't fly to Tokyo with team..."
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https://news.yahoo.com/team-us-as-zach-lavine-placed-in-covid-19-protocols-wont-fly-to-tokyo-with-team-193737155.html

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84. "At what point is this a horrible idea"
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And why was it a month ago

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85. "the Olympics themselves or having training camp in Las Vegas?"
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87. "Both."
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There were signs months ago that the Delta variant was going to mess things up, yet they still pushed ahead with the Olympics. And holding training camp in a wild-ass city filled with people who don't GAF was pretty fucking stupid.

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90. "After punting in 2020 no way were they not doing it this year"
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91. "The way this is going they might not. "
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And I don’t mean basketball. I mean the Olympics. This seems very very dumb.

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92. "like everything it comes down money, should we be having packed arenas....."
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(inside and out) for these NBA Finals games?

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93. "No of course not"
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But at least I can wrap my head around it in the US because our vaccine rollout has been as successful as the willingness to take it.

Japan is only at 21% of the population vaccinated - and then factor in the other countries participating. I dunno enough to know what IS a good time to do these and I feel for all the athletes but this seems like a very dumb idea - and worse than the fans in the stands at US games.

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89. "YES!"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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86. "zach had covid in april. not sure what the situation is in this case"
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but fuck man, delta isn't playing. that 63% vaccine efficacy against symptomatic covid out of israel seems to be holding up here, unsurprisingly. today the markets seem to agree with this sentiment as well.

time to rein in the hot boy summer vibes a bit. i would prefer not to even get a "common cold" from this shit.

  

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94. "Good grief."
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96. "France closes game on 16-2 run to beat USA"
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97. "Pathetic. Unacceptable "
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98. "Some said folks were overreacting to the exhibition games. Now what?"
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99. "They let Evan Fournier somehow become Jordan. Crazy to watch. "
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100. "Random thoughts and excuses"
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First and foremost, Who cares

As the gap has closed international teams still have clear go to guys
And those guys are good enough to take over- even in the NBa for short stretches.

The spacing and pace of the international game is just different and these guys are more used to it. You can’t play with the same space and pace

The international stars don’t have to worry about ball hogging and hero ball. Where you we see early on — nobody really on team USAwants to be “that guy” who just playing like a dick with other stars.

These guys ain’t really out here playing their hardest— especially on D. There’s only one ball so if you’re gonna shoot lots of 3s with this kind of slower pace, you really gotta shoot well.

I’d rather see a bunch of these nba players on a couple of American 3on3 teams using their 1-1 and ball skills to dominate that game now.

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110. "Fournier is actually a very, very not bad NBA player, though. "
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So it's not totally insane for him to have a big game

Dude can score

  

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101. "Finger has to be pointed at coaching."
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I know people will say “but the USA doesn’t have their top guys—“ fam, let me stop you right there, lol. There’s enough talent on Team USA to go undefeated, and it’s not close.

Chemistry is certainly an issue, as a lot of these international teams have played together for years so they know how to play together better… but coaching is the bigger issue. Space the floor better. Create driving lanes. Pressure harder on defense, force the opponent’s issue. If our halfcourt is struggling, create transition opportunities. And get the fuck on these guys if they don’t defend.

Not to be “The Duke Guy” here, but K may just be notably better at managing egos and assigning roles on a team like this than Pop is.

Also all of this may be an overreaction, as clearly the final few minutes involved some anomalously bad shooting on open attempts by USA. Like, make 1 or 2 open shots, and USA wins, and this conversation takes a very different tone. But still, the talent is there to make it so the game shouldn’t have even had an opportunity to go that way.

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102. "Eh, talent isn’t at the same level"
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Like, in 2008 those non Bron/Kobe guys (Melo, Wade, CP3) were all at a higher level than the non-KD guys on this team.

2008 had 3 point guards(Deron when he was good, Kidd, CP3) that brought things to the table that nobody on this team does.

lots of “stars” but non-elite guys on this current team, and no real PG.

  

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104. "Sure, but compare this year's roster to present competition."
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Obviously having prime Bron is a massive advantage that certainly made K's life easier, that goes without saying, lol. And there's also no doubt that the international teams are improving.

But outside of Johnson and McGee, *every player* on this roster has been an All-Star. Like, this is a substantially better roster than the 2004 Bronze roster. There are thirteen All-Stars in the field, ten of them on our roster. There are six All-NBA players in the field, three of them on our roster. Like, winning a couple of games by single digits because the team's sleepwalking? Okay. But we should be winning Olympic basketball games by an average of 18-20+ with this roster. The talent advantage is just enormous.

K had those spells where the team was sleepwalking too-- obviously look at 2016, where we only had something like two returning Olympians, and we won one-possession games against Serbia and France, because you can't sleepwalk against a team that's played together as long as some of the international teams have. But then, of course, in the gold medal game, we beat that same Serbia team by 30 (the spread was something like 15, I remember because I smashed USA to cover, lol). And I think the lowest average margin of victory was also 2016, and it was still easily over 20 points per game. Even if 2021's talent is worse, it's still easily enough to be winning on average by, at minimum, 15+.

And we've got a PG in Lillard who should be fine for what we need. The roster honestly has a ton of guys who can pass and move the ball really well. We needed a better game plan for their bigs. (Which, as we may recall, is why Pop said Kevin Love was on the roster originally-- specifically to play against Gobert in the France game.) Credit to France-- going two centers when the NBA goes increasingly with no true centers is something that the USA players just weren't equipped to handle unless they were knocking down 3s (which they weren't).

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128. "Point guard"
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Seems like if you’re going the “just throw a bunch of all stars together” route you need PG’s that are primarily distributors. Dame is great, but that’s not him.

  

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138. "That'd be a bigger issue if none of these guys were good passers."
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But they are. Like... nearly everyone of consequence on the roster is a good passer. Two of the top 5 Americans in the NBA in assists per game last year are on this team. 3 of the top 15 Americans. 5 of the top 25 Americans.

And outside of *maybe* Chris Paul, there really isn't a pure PG in the NBA who's an actual star that people would respect on the roster. All the leading assist guys are combo guards who also just happen to be really good passers. I don't think, like, Lonzo Ball or TJ McConnell would've made much of an impact here, because Durant, Lillard, or Tatum aren't deferring on playmaking to them.

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107. "I woke up early and spent 30 mins tryna find peacock"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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105. "embarrasing. this about to be a stain on Pop legacy"
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112. "as it should be "
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118. ""My next chapter" - Kevin Durant"
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https://twitter.com/FlamesNBA21/status/1419297924966670336?s=19


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106. "Still lmaoing at Draymond being on this team "
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If the warriors never drafted him he wouldn’t be there .


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116. "lol it’s hilarious how hard people try to extoll his basketball “gen..."
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Like we didn’t see him look like total dogshit for a whole season . Lost as fuck

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119. "Umm he was a defensive dynamo this season, fuck y'all talking about"
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And y'all act like his "genius" stuff comes from anyone
other than PLAYERS and COACHES. They came up with that
because they SEE IT on the court

Media sure as hell didn't create that narrative

  

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120. "🤣 at “dynamo”"
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Thanks for that laugh this morning . I got meetings all day and am dreading it

>
>And y'all act like his "genius" stuff comes from anyone
>other than PLAYERS and COACHES. They came up with that
>because they SEE IT on the court



>Media sure as hell didn't create that narrative

“Among polled NBA players , Draymond Green was named Most Overrated Player in the NBA, earning 17 percent of the votes. Also earning votes in this category were: Jimmy Butler, Andrew Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns (6.3 percent) and James Harden, Ben Simmons, LeBron James Kyle Lowry (4.2 percent).

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124. "that's pretty good company."
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>
>“Among polled NBA players , Draymond Green was named Most
>Overrated Player in the NBA, earning 17 percent of the votes.
>Also earning votes in this category were: Jimmy Butler, Andrew
>Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns (6.3 percent) and James
>Harden, Ben Simmons, LeBron James Kyle Lowry (4.2 percent).
>

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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126. "Agreed , they are all overrated except for Kat and Bron. "
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All those votes for Kat was probably Jimmy Butler voting multiple times

Nba player opinions >> media and Reddit nerds


>>
>>“Among polled NBA players , Draymond Green was named Most
>>Overrated Player in the NBA, earning 17 percent of the
>votes.
>>Also earning votes in this category were: Jimmy Butler,
>Andrew
>>Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns (6.3 percent) and James
>>Harden, Ben Simmons, LeBron James Kyle Lowry (4.2 percent).
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140. "You're not going to refute Harden being over-rated?"
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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123. "He was easily the best defender on a Top 5 defense this season."
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Wiggins and Oubre put up negative defensive box plus-minus numbers on the season, and Curry put up a defensive box plus-minus of exactly zero. The four guys who played easily the most minutes this season were three net negative impact defenders... and Draymond. And their defensive rating was Top 5 in the NBA.

Like... he made All-Defensive First Team for a reason, lol. Anyone acting like he doesn't create obvious value on a basketball team is just shoveling an agenda.

Also, in a game where Durant, Lillard, and Tatum combine for sub-30% shooting and a negative assist-to-turnover ratio... Green isn't close to where the finger should be pointed, lol. The finger starts with the coach, then goes to three of the four best players in the entire Olympic field for shitting the bed collectively.

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125. "*yawn* "
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>Wiggins and Oubre put up negative defensive box plus-minus
>numbers on the season, and Curry put up a defensive box
>plus-minus of exactly zero. The four guys who played easily
>the most minutes this season were three net negative impact
>defenders... and Draymond. And their defensive rating was Top
>5 in the NBA.


Lmao he got fucking torched by Evan Fournier yesterday morning . Stop it .



>Like... he made All-Defensive First Team for a reason, lol.
>Anyone acting like he doesn't create obvious value on a
>basketball team is just shoveling an agenda.

Omgz like totally ! But like , I can like think of like so many more players than would be better on this team like totes mcgotes!!!


>Green isn't close to where the finger should be pointed, lol.
>The finger starts with the coach, then goes to three of the
>four best players in the entire Olympic field for shitting the
>bed collectively.

Obviously, but Draybronze is garbage

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127. "You don't like Draymond. We get it."
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lol

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134. "The warriors finished 9th in the West with Draymonds defensive greatness..."
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108. "I feel like the US has problems when we try to play &quot;international ..."
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the first 3 coaches in 92,96, and 2000, Daly, Wilkens and Tomjanovich let guys play. We dictated instead of trying to adapt to their style of play.

Then in 2004 they brought Larry Brown in with is system trying to "play the right" way and we struggled.

Coach K came in and let guys play and we dictated in 08, 12, & 16.

Then we went back dug up Larry Brown's top assistant from 2004 and are getting the same results. Pop doesn't relate to the modern NBA player and his teams' recent records show that. At this point we might be lucky to get bronze.

The 2019 FIBA World Championship was a precursor to what's happening now like 2002 was for the 2004 Olympics.

Colangelo needs to sit his ass down and let Grant Hill take over.

In the Olympics where the players have a short time to get together they don't have time to learn a new "system" they need a player's coach that will let them play. Give somebody like Monty Williams or Nate McMillan a shot.

It seems like now the international teams play more physical like we used to while we're running around jacking up 3's.



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109. "what a silly PTI level thing to say lmao"
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>Then we went back dug up Larry Brown's top assistant from 2004
>and are getting the same results. Pop doesn't relate to the
>modern NBA player and his teams' recent records show that. At
>this point we might be lucky to get bronze.

anybody with the sense God gave a tadpole can see that the Spurs problem is picking outside the top 25 for the last 25 years

its the same thing that eventually sank the Detroit Red Wings

late round foreign gems kept both teams afloat for a long time, and then when everyone else's scouting caught up it was just a matter of time.

on top of that, Gregg Popovich been talkin about it openly and honestly longer than just about any white dude in sports. that has to mean something to players

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111. ""
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said nobody wanted to play for Pop in 2019 for the FIBA championships, he is an old coach that needs to retire instead of have swan songs at the expense of USA basketball

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122. "all the analysts on tv are basically saying the same thing I said, Pop's..."
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style of coaching is not suited for a team USA format regardless of his social justice statements

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113. "First loss since 2004? "
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These international teams are catching up..

The NBA Finals MVP isn’t American.

Its a new day America.

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117. "RE: First loss since 2004? "
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>These international teams are catching up..

people have been saying since 2004, even before that

>The NBA Finals MVP isn’t American.

the regular season MVP isn't either

>Its a new day America.

I still say we need to let guys play instead of trying to play an "international" style make them adapt to us, I know the rules are different but at the end of the day its still basketball

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139. "Some of these international teams are NBA caliber"
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It's not a huge statement considering how many ex and current NBA players they have on their rosters but it matters in the sense that they're no longer in awe of our team. The international teams are also not falling over themselves for autographs like loyal citizens of Zamunda because they have alot more experience against our guys.

We still have a talent advantage but it's not big enough to overcome a poor game plan or lack of familiarity any given night anymore.

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115. "They looked a little too passive to me. Passing up open shots"
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Especially Lillard. Him and KD need to just do their thing

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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129. "Foul hunting only works in the NBA "
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And that’s a big part of almost all these modern ISO scorers games.

  

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130. "Also, Zion should be on this team"
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Bam is a good player but he’s not a bully. This team needs a bully who will score 80% of his points at the rim.

Pop wants the ball to move, but the best passer on the team is Draymond: who is severely flawed at other aspects of the game.

No great pass first guards, no bullies, and a bunch of iso scorers who rely on drawing fouls and going to the line with their stupid little slight of hand moves that would get laughed off the court if you tried to call a foul on it anywhere else but an NBA court......it’s not great.

Also, given all those flaws..... Durant and Dame need to let their nuts hang and get this done. If this was 08 or 12 and LeBron and Kobe were leading this so far shitshow, they’d be getting roasted so much harder.

  

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131. "good point about trying to draw fouls like its the NBA"
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I bet these refs are looking at these moved like “nah son…he aint even touch you”

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132. "not only that, Zion draws LEGIT fouls that the NBA refs ignore."
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maybe he'd actually get the respect he deserves from these FIBA refs.

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133. "do the Pelicans want Zion there?"
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137. "It's not clear that Zion wants to be on this team."
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I can't imagine they called Javale McGee before Zion Williamson. And if they did, fire everybody.

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142. "yeah, that’s a good point"
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I’m operating under hypotheticals and theoreticals about whose games would be useful for this team.

But I can’t imagine going to Tokyo under present conditions would appeal to too many right now....especially to someone like Zion who is likely to have more chances to play in the Olympics, hopefully under far better circumstances.

  

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135. "Starting to think Coach K should be coaching this team "
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….Popp looks out of his element

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136. "definitely not Pop, his style doesn't fit with Team USA, if people are....."
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honest his style hasn't fit with the NBA the last few of years

>….Popp looks out of his element
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143. "Did Kwahi pull back the curtain on Pop? "
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I think Pop lost his swag when Kwahi was like “nah, I’m good”

I think before that he was able to get people to buy in because he had Duncan, Parker, etc.

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144. "he should've retired with Duncan but ego wouldn't let him"
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141. "they miss Assistant Coach Boeheim and Captain Carmelo"
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145. "People acting like Coack K didnt have the best players on the planet. Lo..."
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Pop is still one of the greats, working with a squad that includes COVID and Javelle McGee. Coach K still had the top tier players without a shortened NBA off-season and a raging pandemic.

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146. "I hate Coach K but he let players play, not that old Larry Brown make 5...."
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passes before you can shoot bs.

Pop has long professed his hate for the 3 point shot and that's what these guys do best.

>Pop is still one of the greats, working with a squad that
>includes COVID and Javelle McGee. Coach K still had the top
>tier players without a shortened NBA off-season and a raging
>pandemic.

covid is an excuse his 2019 FIBA team struggled too

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