2. "So BOS’s 1st move with Stevens as an executive is to ship" In response to Reply # 0
Kemba and bring back Horford
Kind of a big F U to Danny...no?
BBall wise... I don’t see how this helps TT washed... and probably needs to be moved too...which makes this trade a lateral move Looked to me like Williams had earned the starting C nod for next season anyway
and BOS’s biggest issue is health They still need a 3rd bucket getter for the games Tatum or Brown are out
I assume this is a sign of more to come...but don’t you need to hire a HC first?
15. "I believe picks somewhat even out a trade where salaries don’t match" In response to Reply # 13
And they also have some of their trade exception left that they may be using for this. Idk, I’m not well-versed in the financial side of the NBA, but that Kemba deal was killing us with him being injured all the time. At least Horford is healthy.
> >IIRC, the reason Horford left to begin with was being butthurt >about not being top priority that offseason > >Looks like there’s a lot of feels > >?
I don’t remember that, but maybe. I thought he just got a better deal with the Sixers. If he had hard feelings about everything I’m sure Ainge being gone helps things. And anything has to be better than being a veteran in OKC. They sent him home cause they weren’t losing enough. Either way, he doesn’t strike me as a particularly sensitive guy. I’m sure being traded a bunch sucks for anyone, but he’s a professional.
They have to be in the ballpark for this year, but they don’t have to long term (which is why teams trade expiring deals for guys on longer deals all the time). They also have some traded player exceptions to play with, and I don’t fully understand the math there, but you can be temporarily over the cap on these trade exceptions, I believe… but truthfully that doesn’t affect OKC at all, since they’re so far below the cap.
So OKC can make a trade where they’re taking on a bit more this year and ~30ish mil over the next couple of years. And Boston can save that money. Which they desperately wanted to do to add a true third piece of value.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Fri Jun-18-21 10:10 AM
10. "They actually got some really good value." In response to Reply # 5
Moses Brown could low key become a starting center, and outside of Robert Williams, they’ve gotten little to nothing from their bigs in the last two years. And IIRC, Horford is owed something like 30 million less than Kemba over the next two years. Won’t be surprised if this is the first step in generating enough money to make a move for that third guy the Celtics wanted Kemba to be but still desperately need.
BrooklynWHAT Member since Jun 15th 2007 85068 posts
Fri Jun-18-21 11:28 AM
16. "he's never going to be healthy Kemba again" In response to Reply # 9
Charlotte didnt lowball him. They offered him what they thought he'd be worth as 5'10 PG w/ rapidly deteriorating knees entering his 30s who lived off being ungodly athletic
17. "He was eligible for supermax and they didn’t give it to him " In response to Reply # 16
I’m sure he felt lowballed but you’re right re his health conditions
Unfortunate
>Charlotte didnt lowball him. They offered him what they >thought he'd be worth as 5'10 PG w/ rapidly deteriorating >knees entering his 30s who lived off being ungodly athletic
------------------- I wanna go to where the martyrs went the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...
19. "people love to criticize MJ does he get credit for that?" In response to Reply # 16
>Charlotte didnt lowball him. They offered him what they >thought he'd be worth as 5'10 PG w/ rapidly deteriorating >knees entering his 30s who lived off being ungodly athletic
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79586 posts
Fri Jun-18-21 01:50 PM
21. "Only credit MJ gets is finally hiring people who aren’t yes men" In response to Reply # 19
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Fri Jun-18-21 01:45 PM
20. "Even if you keep Al, or cut him next year, it’s a big savings." In response to Reply # 12
IIRC, the amount of guaranteed money Al is owed is notably below the amount Kemba is owed. And Al knows his role will be just to train Robert Williams, Moses Brown, Grant Williams, etc. at this point. Clearly defined role.
Boston’s not done making moves so maybe they try to send him again, but even if they keep him, worst case, they’ve cleared serious money (and added Moses Brown, who I really like).
25. "I liked the move too. I really like Moses Brown" In response to Reply # 12
and I think Horford has more left than he's getting credit for. Philly wasn't a good fit at all and he obviously didn't want to be rebuilding in OKC at his age. I think we've got a couple more moves coming the next few weeks.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Fri Jun-18-21 02:01 PM
23. "The 16th pick has way more value to OKC than to Boston, too." In response to Reply # 0
It’s not especially likely that there’s a win-in-the-next-two-seasons guy at 16 in this draft. But there are several guys that are boom-or-bust long term prospects that could be good for OKC. (Or that OKC could package with other picks to move up for a stud.)
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