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"Blake Bortles and Tim Tebow out here getting jobs and Kaepernick..."


          

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RE: Blake Bortles and Tim Tebow out here getting jobs and Kaepernick...
May 13th 2021
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Not fair obviously, but all 3 of those dudes suck
May 13th 2021
2
Pretty much.
May 13th 2021
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one of them played in a Super Bowl
May 13th 2021
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and he has been bad ever since.
May 13th 2021
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      he was better than Bortles and Tebow and that's the point genius.
May 13th 2021
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           Now I’m racist?
May 13th 2021
7
                are they getting checks for being good at football?
May 13th 2021
8
                I can agree with that.
May 13th 2021
11
                     Kaep was the face of Nike Air after he was out of the league
May 13th 2021
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                          That’s not how risk assessment works in business.
May 13th 2021
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                               RE: That’s not how risk assessment works in business.
May 14th 2021
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                RE: Now I’m racist?
May 13th 2021
9
thanks for illustrating the exact point
May 13th 2021
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urbz owes Tebow. That makes sense. Bortles is bullshit
May 13th 2021
10
man.. people act like Kaep was really that bad at football
May 13th 2021
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RE: man.. people act like Kaep was really that bad at football
May 14th 2021
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      Kaep’s last game
May 16th 2021
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           yeah.. when people say Kaep sucked
May 17th 2021
72
Bortles is just an arm for OTAs/camp
May 14th 2021
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It’s a job. Greg Roman was Kaep’s OC in SF and has since had similar...
May 14th 2021
17
tebow is only there cause urban has a mental defect
May 14th 2021
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Jimmy Smith weighs in (Link)
May 14th 2021
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he's probably looking for a job in the organization too
May 14th 2021
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Why is social activism divisive in the NFL?
May 16th 2021
63
      Soccer players out here taking a knee...but that’s divisive in the NFL
May 17th 2021
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      do you know the racial demographics of these leagues?
May 17th 2021
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           Of course...I just wanted someone to admit it was racism
May 17th 2021
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as a TE, in his hometown, with his college coach, 80 miles from UF
May 14th 2021
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and Bortles?
May 14th 2021
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      i dont know anything about his situation tbh.
May 14th 2021
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I think the point of this post is that CK was blackballed.
May 14th 2021
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of course not, but one of the examples isnt a great illustration of that
May 14th 2021
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Isn’t the Tebow example even worse though?
May 14th 2021
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of course signing Tebow is stupid. as was hiring doyle.
May 14th 2021
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      I don't think anyone's saying they're *directly* linked though
May 14th 2021
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           except that Tebow isn't being brought in as a qb
May 14th 2021
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                I’m well aware
May 15th 2021
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                the only 'defense' I see is that tebow didn't sign as a qb
May 15th 2021
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                     which is an even worse example of nepotism than signing him as a QB
May 15th 2021
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                     let's not pretend that if Tebow does make the team as a "tight end"...
May 16th 2021
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                          lol maybe
May 16th 2021
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                RE: except Tebow been out the league for 9 years and has zero
May 16th 2021
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                     this is the most circular argument lol
May 16th 2021
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this isn't actually true
May 14th 2021
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      i dont read it as a joke invite at all
May 14th 2021
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           RE: i dont read it as a joke invite at all
May 15th 2021
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                ya that's what i was thinking
May 15th 2021
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                *urban signed tebow
May 15th 2021
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                you gotta account for the area we're talking about
May 15th 2021
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                     could be true. it's not an area of the country ive ever experienced.
May 15th 2021
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                          i lived there for like a year and a half
May 15th 2021
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                the people Im talking about are Gator fans first, and there are a lot of...
May 15th 2021
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clearly it's attacking the messenger
May 15th 2021
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      lol who said that racism doesn't exist in the nfl?
May 15th 2021
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      ^^^^^^^
May 15th 2021
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      Look, CK not having a job has nothing to do with pure Racism.
May 16th 2021
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           okayplayer. n/m
May 16th 2021
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           I mean, the fact that he has to do everything perfectly
May 16th 2021
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      exactly and the racism continues to exist on multiple levels:
May 15th 2021
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      what now?
May 15th 2021
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      And yet you continue to ignore the first name in the post
May 15th 2021
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           RIF
May 16th 2021
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      RE: clearly it's attacking the messenger
May 16th 2021
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           because these are QBs that were out of the league due to poor play
May 16th 2021
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           RE: because these are QBs that were out of the league due to poor play
May 16th 2021
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           My bad, I thought Bortles was out last year
May 16th 2021
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           nobody said 'nothing to see here'
May 16th 2021
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                ‘nothing to see here' is the tone of the Tebow defense in this post
May 16th 2021
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                     my comment about doyle really wasnt all that deep
May 16th 2021
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           its definitely apples to oranges but to pretend that the Kaepernick...
May 16th 2021
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It’s bullshit . And why I hate the NFL
May 17th 2021
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Jeremy Schaap just roasted the shit out of Tim Tebow.
May 17th 2021
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Tebow cut
Aug 17th 2021
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Wonder how many times this dude needs to be cut before his fans get it.
Aug 17th 2021
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      His game film was embarrassing
Aug 17th 2021
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           Yeah, those clips of him blocking were rough…
Aug 18th 2021
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                I’m mad at him.. fuck that privileged bullshit
Aug 18th 2021
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grand opening, grand closing.
Aug 17th 2021
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RE: grand opening, grand closing.
Aug 18th 2021
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      it shouldn’t be that easy to be a camp body after being out 9 years
Aug 18th 2021
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      LOL@the replays of him trying to block…straight comedy
Aug 18th 2021
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damn Joe Flacco still getting NFL checks?
Aug 19th 2021
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Stealing!
Aug 20th 2021
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      there will always be a place for a big white QB on the bench
Aug 20th 2021
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           This is true
Aug 20th 2021
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           ^^^^^ doesn’t stand tall in the pocket
Aug 20th 2021
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1. "RE: Blake Bortles and Tim Tebow out here getting jobs and Kaepernick..."
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I had to put football down off of that and the concussion coverup. Can't justify it. It doesn't help that Daniel Snyder is running my organization. ::Hocks a lougie::

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2. "Not fair obviously, but all 3 of those dudes suck "
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3. "Pretty much."
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4. "one of them played in a Super Bowl"
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5. "and he has been bad ever since. "
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Thu May-13-21 03:08 PM by allStah

          

So that’s irrelevant. If CK had Aaron Rodgers ability, he would still be in the NFL.

I was supportive of CK’s stance, and I still support him. However, from a football
stand point, he isn’t very good. So it’s hard to make an argument that he should
be in the NFL.


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6. "he was better than Bortles and Tebow and that's the point genius."
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I know you try to make a name for yourself around here with certain opinions but right now you just sound like a racist POS.

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7. "Now I’m racist? "
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Thu May-13-21 03:12 PM by allStah

          

I just said I have always supported CK, but as far as him being in the
NFL as a QB, he isn’t very good. So him being in or out of the NFL compared
to Bortles or Tebow doesn’t mean anything, because they are all bad QBs.

That was my point. If CK were good and not getting calls, and Bortles
and Tebow were, then that would be an issue.

Just because I don’t agree with your narrative doesn’t mean you have to go
off on the deep in and make stuff up.

Btw, I’m African-American

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8. "are they getting checks for being good at football?"
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nope. tebow is a good xtian, white man with an Urban hookup. he'll sell some tix for the team. bortles also white, but not good at pro football.

can we agree that neither of the 3 is that good at this point? but CK not even getting look is for obvious reasons.

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11. "I can agree with that. "
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Thu May-13-21 05:45 PM by allStah

          

Organizations look at him as luggage. There are whole lot of other things
that will come with him. That’s the main reason

Does he have a better history as a qb?
Yes

Was he just as bad as them in his last 2-3 years?
Yes

Is he the better athlete?
Yes.


However, is he marketable compared to Tim Tebow?
Nope

And that is one of the main reasons why Tebow was brought in. He is a legend
in Florida, a fan favorite, he will help to generate revenue. CK will not do that.
Tebow will. Football is a business first. TT

This isn’t totally a black and white thing. If CK were good and a revenue generator,
he would be on someone’s roster. But he isn’t, so he isn’t worth the baggage and coverage that will follow him.

If I were an owner, I would go with CK, because I would go with my heart. I’m AA.
He is one of my own, so that bias would exist, and I wouldn’t want any push back
from AA communities. However, my money would be thinking Tebow. So I understand why the Jaguars are giving Tebow a shot.



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12. "Kaep was the face of Nike Air after he was out of the league"
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>This isn’t totally a black and white thing. If CK were good
>and a revenue generator,
>he would be on someone’s roster.


Made them a shitload of money b/c a bunch of people support him. Same thing will happen with whatever NFL team signs him. Would not be surprised if his jersey becomes the #1 seller, even if he's on the bench. Obviously certain teams in red states will never touch him, but there's a few teams that would gain fans and revenue by signing him.

And frankly, most conservatives saying they're "boycotting" the league due to the kneeling are full of shit. But that's another conversation.

  

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13. "That’s not how risk assessment works in business."
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Thu May-13-21 06:15 PM by allStah

          

What he DID and where he is now are two different things.

Which player is the low risk investment?

Easily, its Tebow.

You’re buying something very low that could lead to huge returns because of the following Tebow has in Florida.

Example:

Deshaun Watson, who I profusely support, is still on Houston’s roster.
He has 22 sexual misconduct cases dangling over his head. However he is
an elite, young QB, and his ability will out live and outweigh his off the field
issues, so the upside is huge ...making it worth the risk.

CK will come with a lot of baggage, controversy, and coverage that owners
feel aren’t worth the risk.

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26. "RE: That’s not how risk assessment works in business."
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>What he DID and where he is now are two different things.
>
>Which player is the low risk investment?
>
>Easily, its Tebow.
>
>You’re buying something very low that could lead to huge
>returns because of the following Tebow has in Florida.
>
>Example:
>
>Deshaun Watson, who I profusely support, is still on
>Houston’s roster.
>He has 22 sexual misconduct cases dangling over his head.
>However he is
>an elite, young QB, and his ability will out live and outweigh
>his off the field
>issues, so the upside is huge ...making it worth the risk.
>
>CK will come with a lot of baggage, controversy, and coverage
>that owners
>feel aren’t worth the risk.
>

This is just facts.

The upside to bringing in Kaep is questionable. The downside could be significant.

There is no risk in bringing Bortles in, it won't move a needle.

If Kaep was better, he would be in the NFL. Or if he wasn't a polarizing figure to whitey, he would be in the NFL.

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9. "RE: Now I’m racist? "
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>I just said I have always supported CK, but as far as him
>being in the
>NFL as a QB, he isn’t very good. So him being in or out of
>the NFL compared
>to Bortles or Tebow doesn’t mean anything, because they are
>all bad QBs.
>
>That was my point. If CK were good and not getting calls, and
>Bortles
>and Tebow were, then that would be an issue.
>
>Just because I don’t agree with your narrative doesn’t
>mean you have to go
>off on the deep in and make stuff up.
>
>Btw, I’m African-American

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15. "thanks for illustrating the exact point"
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10. "urbz owes Tebow. That makes sense. Bortles is bullshit"
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14. "man.. people act like Kaep was really that bad at football"
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Not sure if he has anything left but you mean to tell me he was Bortles/Tebow bad before this all started?

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27. "RE: man.. people act like Kaep was really that bad at football"
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>Not sure if he has anything left but you mean to tell me he
>was Bortles/Tebow bad before this all started?

He had gone through some injury and bad coaching struggles. He was backing up BLAINE GABBERT. He was legit struggling. He wasn’t amazing last time he got to play. He wasn’t Tebow bad at all tho. The league can’t quit Bortles for some reason. Kaep might’ve been somewhere around Bortles bad at his worst. Maybe.

But we know this isn’t about football. This is about control and bullshit.

  

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67. "Kaep’s last game"
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5fHSERMkEwI


I don’t think people realize how bad the 49ers were as a team in 2016. Kaep is a top 32 qb right today.

Starting Qb’s he is better than:

Darnold

Bridgewater/lock
Garrapolo(?)
Ben
Daniel jones

Maybe carr
Maybe wentz

The nfl thanks god everyday kaep put up bad stats and was injured his last 1.5 years so they have an out. Also didn’t the nfl have to pay Kaep because it was obvious they colluded to keep him out of the league?


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72. "yeah.. when people say Kaep sucked"
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I think they forget what that team was going through from a management situation.

That team was falling apart from FO to HC to roster. Guys tapped out and didnt a LB retire a year into his career?



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16. "Bortles is just an arm for OTAs/camp"
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He played for the Packers OC with the Jags. He's not making the roster. If Rodgers is traded a QB will probably be coming back in the deal.

  

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17. "It’s a job. Greg Roman was Kaep’s OC in SF and has since had similar..."
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positions in Buffalo and Baltimore.

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18. "tebow is only there cause urban has a mental defect"
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he'd prob sign JT barrett and tate martell to fill out his qb room if he could

  

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19. "Jimmy Smith weighs in (Link)"
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https://www.tmz.com/2021/05/13/jimmy-smith-colin-kaepernick-tim-tebow-jacksonville-jaguars-nfl/


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21. "he's probably looking for a job in the organization too"
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63. "Why is social activism divisive in the NFL?"
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WNBA = say her name campaign 20’
NBA = BLM banners on jerseys and courts

Why would Kap’s social activism be divisive to NFL locker rooms?

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68. "Soccer players out here taking a knee...but that’s divisive in the NFL"
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Why?

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69. "do you know the racial demographics of these leagues?"
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>WNBA = say her name campaign 20’
>NBA = BLM banners on jerseys and courts
>
>Why would Kap’s social activism be divisive to NFL locker
>rooms?

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70. "Of course...I just wanted someone to admit it was racism"
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Now tell that to Jimmy Smith.

BTW, the NFL players are majority black

+1, explain euro soccer teams taking a knee

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20. "as a TE, in his hometown, with his college coach, 80 miles from UF"
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what would your reaction be to someone bringing Kaep to camp as a free safety?

i dont think it would be positive, and understandably so

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22. "and Bortles?"
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24. "i dont know anything about his situation tbh."
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i didnt want to comment on something im not familiar with

if he's a tetris piece for summer cap manoeuvres then thats kinda whatever. if its more than that, then its fair game for heavy criticism.

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23. "I think the point of this post is that CK was blackballed."
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And continues to be.

This doesn't really break new posting ground, but does anyone seriously disagree?

  

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25. "of course not, but one of the examples isnt a great illustration of that"
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28. "Isn’t the Tebow example even worse though?"
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I understand your point about it not being a 1-to-1 comparison, but nothing is, and no one is arguing that the Jags should’ve signed Kaep as a TE. The point of the criticism is that the nepotism here is gross, and when it’s looked at with the lens of Kaep never getting a shot with ANY team, it looks even grosser.

I get why the signing will be popular with Floridians and all that, but that doesn’t automatically make it a good football decision, and I don’t buy that Urban Meyer owes him anything. Plus, if they’re trying to win there are probably a bunch of serviceable Tight Ends that have actually played the position at the professional level who are still available. You don’t even have to bring up Kaep for this to look questionable at best. Not to mention he hasn’t played in a regular season game at any position in almost a decade.

Tebow and Bortles left the league because they weren’t productive enough to be useful for any team. Somehow that changes years later, and in the case of Tebow, at a different position? Kaep was certainly not great his last couple seasons, but he was better than a bunch of QBs who got roster spots ahead of him, and he certainly did enough during his career to at least get some tryouts. Again, not everything is a 1-to-1 comparison, but you’d think with everyone saying “Sorry, I wasn’t cool about the kneeling thing, I know better now.” Kaep could finally get a look from a couple teams.

  

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30. "of course signing Tebow is stupid. as was hiring doyle."
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as was many of his coaching staff selections. urban has done the nepotism thing at every stop, much to his detriment.

and of course Kapernick was blackballed.

nobody could possibly argue otherwise but that doesn't necessarily make the two situations linked.

  

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31. "I don't think anyone's saying they're *directly* linked though"
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the Jags weren't looking at Tebow's resume next to Kaep's resume and chose Tebow. But generally speaking, the Jags and everyone else has rejected Kaep for years, so any decision to bring back an out-of-the-league QB is obviously gonna be looked at with that lens.

  

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32. "except that Tebow isn't being brought in as a qb"
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43. "I’m well aware"
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Again, I don’t think the Jags were literally looking at both guys’ resumes and chose Tebow. The point is the Jags (and everyone else) have rejected Kaep for years and then on top of that they pull this? They deserve all the criticism.

The defense of “Well, it’s Tebow, so what are you gonna do?” is weird to me. Are they trying to win or are they trying to hand out favors to everyone Urban Meyer likes?

  

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45. "the only 'defense' I see is that tebow didn't sign as a qb"
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which seems awfully relevant.


>The defense of “Well, it’s Tebow, so what are you gonna
>do?” is weird to me. Are they trying to win or are they
>trying to hand out favors to everyone Urban Meyer likes?

  

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48. "which is an even worse example of nepotism than signing him as a QB"
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>which seems awfully relevant.
>
>
>>The defense of “Well, it’s Tebow, so what are you gonna
>>do?” is weird to me. Are they trying to win or are they
>>trying to hand out favors to everyone Urban Meyer likes?
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50. "let's not pretend that if Tebow does make the team as a "tight end"..."
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that he won't have a "package of plays" at QB even if its mostly "wildcat" stuff its easier at this point to say you're bringing him in as a "TE" instead of QB for obvious reasons

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57. "lol maybe"
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urban just moved etienne to wr

it's a gong show so i wouldn't put anything past him at this point

  

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62. "RE: except Tebow been out the league for 9 years and has zero"
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experience at TE

Of course that $hit is worse

It’s unprecedented privilege.

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65. "this is the most circular argument lol"
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everyone is agreeing

  

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29. "this isn't actually true"
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because even if you read it as "it's a joke invite"

it still doesn't clear up why kaepernick can't get so much as a training camp invite, if they're so easily given out.

it's not like he's had tryouts and got cut, he's gotten nothing

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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33. "i dont read it as a joke invite at all"
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its a massive personal favor for a guy who won a Heisman for him

its also a regional PR campaign. im sure the Jags want to siphon fans from the Bucs in North Central FL, and Bucs fans are heavy even all the way up in Gainesville.

Finally this is all from the family who owns and operates a cracked-out pro wrestling TV show. Tony Khan fancies himself as being of that world, and much better at it than he actually is. Im surprised they arent debuting him on fucking Dynamite next Wednesday tbh.

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34. "RE: i dont read it as a joke invite at all"
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>its a massive personal favor for a guy who won a Heisman for
>him
>
>its also a regional PR campaign. im sure the Jags want to
>siphon fans from the Bucs in North Central FL, and Bucs fans
>are heavy even all the way up in Gainesville.
>
>Finally this is all from the family who owns and operates a
>cracked-out pro wrestling TV show. Tony Khan fancies himself
>as being of that world, and much better at it than he actually
>is. Im surprised they arent debuting him on fucking Dynamite
>next Wednesday tbh.
>
>

I can't see Bucs fans switching the to Jags because of Tebow lol

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35. "ya that's what i was thinking "
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>I can't see Bucs fans switching the to Jags because of Tebow
>lol

I don't really recall NFL teams doing hokie shit like this to get some extra eyeballs on their games...but maybe more common in a small marketplace like Jacksonville?

I feel like urban signed urban for the same reason he signed doyle and a gang of college guys to fill his staff...cause he's dumb.

  

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36. "*urban signed tebow"
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38. "you gotta account for the area we're talking about"
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the religiosity matters for those ppl for one thing

for another, gator football is the only thing along the 500 miles or so btwn Tampa and ATL for anyone to care about

and again, this particular NFL team is run by an overconfident pro wrestling promoter. of course its hokey.

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41. "could be true. it's not an area of the country ive ever experienced."
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>the religiosity matters for those ppl for one thing
>
>for another, gator football is the only thing along the 500
>miles or so btwn Tampa and ATL for anyone to care about
>
>and again, this particular NFL team is run by an overconfident
>pro wrestling promoter. of course its hokey.

  

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46. "i lived there for like a year and a half"
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you arent missing anything

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37. "the people Im talking about are Gator fans first, and there are a lot of..."
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if he plays they will sell more tickets specifically from that

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39. "clearly it's attacking the messenger"
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OKS is doing the whole "well, actually..." with fucking Tim Tebow

bonus points for the "well they all suck" replies, because racism only matters when it affects the most exceptional

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40. "lol who said that racism doesn't exist in the nfl?"
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and that CK wasn't a victim?

like how badly do you want to create an argument when none exists?

everyone seems to be in agreement here...it's just that CK being blackballed isn't exactly a hot off the presses news item.

  

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42. "^^^^^^^"
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>bonus points for the "well they all suck" replies, because
>racism only matters when it affects the most exceptional
>

The list of bum QBs that got jobs instead of Kaep the last few years is embarrassing. Even if we accept that Kaep “sucked” those last couple seasons (really he was just mediocre), there are way suckier QBs that continue to get opportunities.

  

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55. "Look, CK not having a job has nothing to do with pure Racism."
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Organizations just don’t want to deal with all the difficult shit that will come
with having CK on their team.

And let’s not act like CK would be easy to deal with. You remember the private turned
public workout that he held a few years ago, and how that turned into a difficult
situation, because he moved the workout at the last minute. That pissed a lot of
teams off, because plans and schedules had to be rearranged, which wasted
resources and money. Plus the commentary that he gave afterward was not
very welcoming.

The way he handled the workout killed any chances of him getting back
into the NFL.

I’m not saying he should have kissed the ring, but he should have kept it about
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56. "okayplayer. n/m"
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64. "I mean, the fact that he has to do everything perfectly"
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AND host his own workout is pretty telling. The guy went to the Super Bowl for Christ’s sake. Even with a couple mediocre seasons he is worth a look from multiple teams.

I’m sure he could’ve handled some things better. I’m also sure it wouldn’t have mattered because the league decided he was never gonna play again. I think the idea he was never willing to compromise is mostly propaganda to justify the NFL’s actions. Shit, the kneeling WAS.a compromise cause people thought sitting was too extreme.

  

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44. "exactly and the racism continues to exist on multiple levels:"
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The NFL is confronting racism, but are Black quarterbacks continuing to be stereotyped?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/sport/nfl-black-quarterbacks-cmd-spt-intl/index.html


NFL, class counsel poised to remove race-norming from concussion settlement program
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/nfl-class-counsel-poised-remove-race-norming-concussion/story?id=76615565

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47. "what now?"
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addressing the context of the examples someone else brought up isnt some sort of tacit approval for the blackballing of Kap

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49. "And yet you continue to ignore the first name in the post"
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59. "RIF"
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51. "RE: clearly it's attacking the messenger"
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It's just unclear what those examples have to do with Kapernick, or how they illuminate anything.

Kaep isn't playing because the risk-reward doesn't make sense unless you really want to make a statement. Which obviously none of these owners do.

Bortles has never been out of the league. He is a former first-round pick who still can get practice squad/3rd string jobs. Not shocking, given the state of QB play in the league.

Tim Tebow signing is about Urban Meyer, that's basically it. It is all about nepotism, from a new coach who has already shown that personal relationships weigh heavily on his hiring.


So, what does comparing these situations tell us that we didn't know already?

Kaepernick didn't get opportunities that other lesser (or equally bad) quarterbacks are getting because he is a polarizing figure and the NFL is conservative in every sense of the word. Nothing has changed except it's been longer and longer since he last suited up.

Why bring up Bortles and Tebow like their situations are relevant? You could look at the 3rd stringers on every team and ask if they are better than Colin Kapernick. Which is the same thing you could have done last year, or the year before.

Kaep is never going to play again. He is not good enough to force anyone's hand and no one in the NFL has the guts (or personal convictions) to sign him in order to make a statement.

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52. "because these are QBs that were out of the league due to poor play"
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>Why bring up Bortles and Tebow like their situations are
>relevant?

whereas Kaep was out of the league because of racism. if anything, these are the most relevant examples to show the hypocrisy of the league.

You could look at the 3rd stringers on every team
>and ask if they are better than Colin Kapernick. Which is the
>same thing you could have done last year, or the year before.

yeah, we already did that. now we're pointing out these examples. this will probably keep happening and it will always be relevant.

>
>Kaep is never going to play again. He is not good enough to
>force anyone's hand and no one in the NFL has the guts (or
>personal convictions) to sign him in order to make a
>statement.

okay, so what's the harm in continuing to point out that that's bullshit? why just accept it and say "ho hum, urban meyer loves hiring people out of personal favors. nothing to see here?"

  

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54. "RE: because these are QBs that were out of the league due to poor play"
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But…Bortles was never out of the league…and Tebow is not playing QB.


And to answer your last question, why not just post about Kaep without attempting awkward analogies?

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60. "My bad, I thought Bortles was out last year"
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>
>And to answer your last question, why not just post about Kaep
>without attempting awkward analogies?

You think they’re awkward analogies. I don’t.

  

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58. "nobody said 'nothing to see here'"
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> why just accept it and say "ho hum, urban
>meyer loves hiring people out of personal favors. nothing to
>see here?"

did you post about the doyle hiring? that may have been a better one to go all in on.

  

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61. "‘nothing to see here' is the tone of the Tebow defense in this post"
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“It’s Florida” “Urban owes him” “He’s gonna be a Tight End” etc.

>
>did you post about the doyle hiring? that may have been a
>better one to go all in on.

Lol, I don’t do that whole “why didn’t you post about this other example” thing, least of all when this board is dying, but to your point:

1) I don’t think I’ve started a post in years that wasn’t about wrestling, and I really only enter convos on here when there is some debate back-and-forth. If there was a conversation on Doyle, I can’t imagine anyone on here playing devil’s advocate for the guy.

2) I figured the backlash would cause Doyle to be fired in a few days and it took less than that.

3) This isn’t just about the Jags, which I said before. By and large, I don’t give a fuck about the Jags, but I think the nepotism Urban Meyer has displayed is a good contrast to the entire league’s blacklisting of Kaep. Not a 1-to-1 comparison, but I still think it’s worth highlighting.

  

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66. "my comment about doyle really wasnt all that deep"
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and wasn't intended to be an indictment on you and whether or not you posted about it. and i have no idea if you did or didn't post about doyle nor does it really matter to me.

I'm gonna bow out at this point because it just seems like some are desperate to argue for the sake of arguing. which is kinda mind numbing considering everyone here is aligned with the big picture.

we're talking about an analogy here.


>>did you post about the doyle hiring? that may have been a
>>better one to go all in on.
>
>Lol, I don’t do that whole “why didn’t you post about
>this other example” thing, least of all when this board is
>dying, but to your point:
>
>1) I don’t think I’ve started a post in years that
>wasn’t about wrestling, and I really only enter convos on
>here when there is some debate back-and-forth. If there was a
>conversation on Doyle, I can’t imagine anyone on here
>playing devil’s advocate for the guy.
>
>2) I figured the backlash would cause Doyle to be fired in a
>few days and it took less than that.
>
>3) This isn’t just about the Jags, which I said before. By
>and large, I don’t give a fuck about the Jags, but I think
>the nepotism Urban Meyer has displayed is a good contrast to
>the entire league’s blacklisting of Kaep. Not a 1-to-1
>comparison, but I still think it’s worth highlighting.

  

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53. "its definitely apples to oranges but to pretend that the Kaepernick..."
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situation didn't happen and why doesn't make it go away even though some posters and NFL owners would like it to

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71. "It’s bullshit . And why I hate the NFL"
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>couldn't get a tryout

Urban is a MAGA dickhead too fuck him

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73. "Jeremy Schaap just roasted the shit out of Tim Tebow."
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When he talks, you know it’s a problem!

“He gets another shot? Wow!”

ALL HAIL THE KING of LOSING: LEBRON
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74. "Tebow cut"
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76. "Wonder how many times this dude needs to be cut before his fans get it."
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All i heard the last couple months was "he was never given a fair shot."

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77. "His game film was embarrassing "
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Tebow looked like he wanted no parts of contact.

Every part of that mans body was screaming to be back in a studio on Saturdays.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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80. "Yeah, those clips of him blocking were rough…"
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I still aim mad at dude, though. You tried it, it didn’t work…get your close fade/gelled with the part in it, throw on your tailored suit and get back in the studio for that tv bread.

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82. "I’m mad at him.. fuck that privileged bullshit"
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This whole “Tim Tebow is blessed to try all these things” is some pure American bullshit.

Dudes out here trying to change their lives and chase their dreams and this fool just shows up and cuts the line for anything he wants to try?

Cause Jesus?

He needs to sit the fuck down or write a book or go on a mission to Tanzania.

Just please stop following this dude around like he has a legit shot. He will wale up tomorrow and try the winter olympics.

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75. "grand opening, grand closing."
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78. "RE: grand opening, grand closing."
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Dude is willing to be a camp body. Kap isn't.

  

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79. "it shouldn’t be that easy to be a camp body after being out 9 years"
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There are talented players who have been out for a year who can’t get a look.

That shit was embarrassing for Tebow and Meyer.

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81. "LOL@the replays of him trying to block…straight comedy "
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Everyone involved in this decision should be embarrassed
OL matador a$$ blocking technique…O’le
That $hit was sad AF

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83. "damn Joe Flacco still getting NFL checks?"
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84. "Stealing!"
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3 or so teams removed from my Ravens and some fans can’t seem to let him go. It’s sad. We know why though.

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85. "there will always be a place for a big white QB on the bench"
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backup QB is an awesome gig..

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86. "This is true"
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87. "^^^^^ doesn’t stand tall in the pocket"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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