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smutsboy
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"April Futbol: Mo Better, Blues."


  

          

The fight for fourth.

Mo going for his 3rd golden boot.

CL quarterfinals today.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
CL predictions
Apr 06th 2021
1
RM going hard and fast at the outset.
Apr 06th 2021
2
more LFC defensive meltdown(s)
Apr 06th 2021
3
Yep. Not the required level.
Apr 06th 2021
4
TAA in the crosshairs
Apr 06th 2021
5
almost a good result for L'Pool, considering
Apr 06th 2021
6
Hell yeah.
Apr 06th 2021
7
Lukaku is the best striker in the world.
Apr 07th 2021
8
His Name is Mason Mount!!
Apr 07th 2021
9
I can't believe our broke-ass game plan is working so far
Apr 07th 2021
10
This Bayern-PSG is wild.
Apr 07th 2021
11
I want an orange ball for the 2d half
Apr 07th 2021
12
      Ha. Credit to PSG though. Weathered quite a storm.
Apr 07th 2021
16
Bayern just dont stop
Apr 07th 2021
13
ripped Porto’s heart out!
Apr 07th 2021
14
well that was something
Apr 07th 2021
15
that was wild times
Apr 08th 2021
17
LFC are just baffling sometimes.
Apr 10th 2021
18
Fuckin a. Congrats Smuts.
Apr 10th 2021
19
what a wild swing
Apr 10th 2021
22
Alba fucked up on that benzema goal just now
Apr 10th 2021
20
Also, I can’t believe I’m missing Ray Hudson on commentary
Apr 10th 2021
21
can Moyes & Lingaard be stopped?
Apr 11th 2021
23
Rice and 20m for Lingard
Apr 11th 2021
24
Tottenham are fucking shithouse personified under Jose
Apr 11th 2021
25
shithousery must not prevail though
Apr 11th 2021
26
we need to break the bank on Sancho and Rice
Apr 11th 2021
27
I hate son so much.
Apr 11th 2021
29
      he should be embarrased for laying there for 5 mins
Apr 11th 2021
30
           💯
Apr 11th 2021
31
           i feel like they need to look at the rules on that kinda shit...
Apr 12th 2021
35
really impressive 2d half from United
Apr 11th 2021
28
Atletico are slowly and painfully choking this away
Apr 11th 2021
32
man if Real manage to do the Liga+CL double with this squad...
Apr 12th 2021
33
man I was pulling for them as the underdog
Apr 12th 2021
34
Madrid and Chelsea look to move on to the Semifinals.
Apr 12th 2021
36
fuck you everton
Apr 12th 2021
37
Neymar renewing to 2026
Apr 12th 2021
38
interesting
Apr 12th 2021
39
      He's so fickle.
Apr 13th 2021
42
Barcelona photoshopped Coutinho into their team photo, LOL.
Apr 13th 2021
40
Should have left him out.
Apr 13th 2021
41
This is like last game, but less so.
Apr 13th 2021
43
...I can’t believe PSG didn’t score 1st half
Apr 13th 2021
44
I had envisioned a lot of scenarios for this game
Apr 13th 2021
45
its about the most PSG thing you can script so far
Apr 13th 2021
46
      nah playing scared would be more on-brand
Apr 13th 2021
47
man did someone put a curse on neymar
Apr 13th 2021
48
.....just took my first breath in 30mins
Apr 13th 2021
49
Easy win for Chelsea.
Apr 13th 2021
50
Need stats on how many times Pulisic was fouled
Apr 13th 2021
51
      how are y'all not gonna mention that exquisite Porto goal
Apr 13th 2021
52
      It was a scrimmage goal. It happened in the last few seconds
Apr 13th 2021
53
      Hazard endured that weekly for a decade in the EPL.
Apr 13th 2021
54
           man, in the words of MIB, Hazard is a big bottom small.
Apr 14th 2021
55
                He is going to have do something if he wants a
Apr 14th 2021
56
                     what can he do?
Apr 14th 2021
57
                          Do you remember early in Messi's career? He had a lot of muscular injuri...
Apr 14th 2021
58
                               right. that's what i was getting at.
Apr 15th 2021
69
I THINK LIVERPOOL CAN DO IT.
Apr 14th 2021
59
I fucking hope so.
Apr 14th 2021
60
I AM BECOMING LESS OPTIMISTIC THAT LIVERPOOL CAN DO IT.
Apr 14th 2021
62
      UGH.
Apr 14th 2021
63
Man, let Smut rest.
Apr 14th 2021
61
AllStah, who you rooting for next round: Chelsea or Madrid?
Apr 14th 2021
64
Walking in the stadium with
Apr 14th 2021
65
      🤮🤮🤮
Apr 14th 2021
67
           Aren’t you an arsenal guy?
Apr 14th 2021
68
                Honestly, I'd rather root for United. And I've hated them longer.
Apr 15th 2021
70
                     Then who do you root for?
Apr 15th 2021
71
                          Arsenal. Sorry to confuse
Apr 15th 2021
72
                               This is for you.
Apr 16th 2021
73
I told you mofos to kneel awhile ago.
Apr 14th 2021
66
I don't speak a word of Spanish, I just switched
Apr 17th 2021
74
good idea, switching now. It's killing me as well
Apr 17th 2021
75
I watch most of my soccer on the Spanish channel
Apr 17th 2021
78
We are the blues!
Apr 17th 2021
76
Welp, at least Lio won't leave empty-handed nm
Apr 17th 2021
77
I know Belgium has to be furious.
Apr 17th 2021
79
Top European Soccer Teams Agree to Join Breakaway League (swipe)
Apr 18th 2021
80
it's just a matter of time
Apr 18th 2021
81
I bet the glazers & kroenkes spearheaded that JP Morgan financing
Apr 18th 2021
82
      sounds like a Perez/Kroenke operation
Apr 18th 2021
97
This is what happens when you let Americans join the table.
Apr 18th 2021
84
Motherfucker Roman’s got the Russian Mafia. The fuck he need profit fo...
Apr 18th 2021
85
      Also this shit was Fiorentino Perez’s idea lol
Apr 18th 2021
86
      Perez has always talked about it. It was just talk.
Apr 18th 2021
87
           Dude's going to be the league chairman, but he has no power. OK.
Apr 18th 2021
88
                Next time read the article.
Apr 18th 2021
89
                     I got some prime river real estate to sell you if you believe
Apr 18th 2021
93
                          exactly. we're just along for the ride ultimately
Apr 19th 2021
110
      Also, Thank you for admitting that Mount is the chosen one.
Apr 18th 2021
91
           I said he's Gareth's golden boy.
Apr 18th 2021
92
Yuck.
Apr 18th 2021
90
Fuck them all (would say the same if my team was included)
Apr 18th 2021
94
From what I read, PSG decline their offer.
Apr 18th 2021
96
      PSG owner is too in-bed w/ UEFA to go along w/ it
Apr 18th 2021
98
           PSG will go along, due to Arab rivalries. Bayern will be interesting...
Apr 18th 2021
100
           Why do you think they will get left behind?
Apr 18th 2021
101
                agreed, my fandom is already wavering since QSI arrived
Apr 19th 2021
108
Dortmund & Porto decline invites
Apr 19th 2021
106
Villa CEO Purslow: ESL "A grotesque concept"
Apr 19th 2021
107
      well hes convinced me American pro sports is a sham
Apr 19th 2021
109
United flying. Henderson was all over the place today though
Apr 18th 2021
83
Looked xtra goofy with that hat
Apr 18th 2021
95
      the hat was a literal cherry on top for his energy today lol
Apr 18th 2021
99
Chosen one unchosen.
Apr 19th 2021
102
about damn time
Apr 19th 2021
103
terrible hire from day 1
Apr 19th 2021
104
Liverpool fan groups to remove all flags from Kop
Apr 19th 2021
105
My Liverpool buddy said he’s not even sure he wants to watch the Leeds...
Apr 19th 2021
111
Pre-match interview w/ Klopp is must see. Feel bad for the guy.
Apr 19th 2021
112
      he knows its about nothing but profit at the expense of fans the sport
Apr 19th 2021
113
      Makes it hard to see him at the club long term.
Apr 19th 2021
114
           i'd have to see it to believe it
Apr 19th 2021
115
      RE: Pre-match interview w/ Klopp is must see. Feel bad for the guy.
Apr 20th 2021
118
Perez is a madman. Holy shit these comments are unreal
Apr 19th 2021
116
why dont his friends tell him to chill?
Apr 19th 2021
117
Somebody is having second thoughts.
Apr 20th 2021
119
It's prolly Chelsea, Spurs or Liverpool. Definitely not United or Arsena...
Apr 20th 2021
120
idk if i buy that
Apr 20th 2021
121
I read somewhere that both Roman and City weren't all that into it
Apr 20th 2021
122
      just saw reports that Chelsea + Man City have backed out on twitter
Apr 20th 2021
124
City & Chelsea "out"
Apr 20th 2021
123
lol that was fast
Apr 20th 2021
125
Atleti too
Apr 20th 2021
126
That’s my focking squad!!!
Apr 20th 2021
128
How it started:
Apr 20th 2021
127
https://twitter.com/EnglandSimpsons/status/1384573524828987394
Apr 20th 2021
129
WOODWARD OUT. IT WAS ALL WORTH IT
Apr 20th 2021
130
Ha. Was just about to post that news.
Apr 20th 2021
131
dawg...LET'S FUCKING GO!!!!
Apr 20th 2021
132
Agnelli resigns from Juve too.
Apr 20th 2021
133
Juve denies it but who knows
Apr 20th 2021
140
LOL, congrats. Glazers have to be pissed
Apr 20th 2021
134
congrats man, you earned this one
Apr 20th 2021
135
So happy for you, dude.
Apr 20th 2021
136
lol holy shit
Apr 20th 2021
138
What a strange couple of days.
Apr 20th 2021
137
never underestimate how stupid and greedy executives are
Apr 20th 2021
139
One thing I will say is that these teams lost a lot of revenue
Apr 20th 2021
142
      yeah, no one feels bad for Perez and his Galácticos
Apr 20th 2021
143
      FFP was the best thing to happen to Chelsea.
Apr 20th 2021
146
      yea desperation was a huge part of this IMO
Apr 20th 2021
144
      John Henry is worth nearly three billion dollars.
Apr 20th 2021
145
           You support the Washington team and Liverpool.
Apr 20th 2021
147
I'm still annoyed they announced this after
Apr 20th 2021
141
if it was a bargaining tool they bumbled that too
Apr 20th 2021
151
All six EPL teams withdraw.
Apr 20th 2021
148
I found this extremely satisfying to read
Apr 20th 2021
149
good one- thanks nm
Apr 20th 2021
150
Good read.
Apr 21st 2021
152
      Mes Que Une Club has been one HELL of a shield
Apr 21st 2021
153
           it's been shameful, and Laporta started that slide
Apr 22nd 2021
154
           He's saying that it's "necessary" but that the socios will decide
Apr 22nd 2021
156
           as we know, there are no good billionaries.
Apr 22nd 2021
155
                Yep. My boy Purslow’s been saying all the right things
Apr 22nd 2021
157
                     MY billionaire is good because he roots for the right team
Apr 23rd 2021
160
Lio still the god. Bow down in the presence of a real one.
Apr 22nd 2021
158
anyone watching Copa Libertadores?
Apr 22nd 2021
159

Buck
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1. "CL predictions"
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Today: City signs Haaland 10 minutes before kickoff, proceeds to win 4-1. Liverpool ekes out a 1-1 draw in the 85th.

Tomorrow: Bayern wins 3-1. Porto and Chelsea draw, 0-0.

  

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Buck
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2. "RM going hard and fast at the outset."
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3. "more LFC defensive meltdown(s)"
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Buck
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4. "Yep. Not the required level."
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5. "TAA in the crosshairs"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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6. "almost a good result for L'Pool, considering"
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i think they had one shot on target (the goal)? Super loose on D as you'd expect from having two neophytes for this level of competition, but they're not completely out

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NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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7. "Hell yeah."
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And Hazard will be available for the second match.

Have Hazard back to dominate pool on their own pitch like
he did for 7 straight years.

Just need chelsea to rock Porto to sleep tomorrow.
Gotta get the lineup right..let’s go.

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allStah
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8. "Lukaku is the best striker in the world."
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What Lukaku is doing at inter is straight R9 level.
He equaled R9’s season goal scoring record (34) last season, and he is tied
for the most la liga goals this season. And he is doing that while playing
in a racist environment.

And he is only 27 years old.

Of course he is over priced, though. Inter put a 120 mil transfer fee on him.
All soccer players are tremendously overvalued. His actually value is about
80-85 million. And I would put Haaland at 120 mil, not close to 200 mil.


I would love to have him back at Chelsea for under 100 mil.






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9. "His Name is Mason Mount!!"
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Tuchel put a shit lineup out there, but Mount still overcame that.

Havertz as striker? (Rolls eyes)

That hazard like turn to score the goal was insane.

Best English MF in the world!

The blues up 0-1

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10. "I can't believe our broke-ass game plan is working so far"
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the Choupo goal was part of it too btw, gotta respect the classics (ex-PSG players scoring against the club)

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MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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11. "This Bayern-PSG is wild."
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End to end attacking in the snow.

  

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12. "I want an orange ball for the 2d half"
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make it really feel like an early-Dec group stage game at Zenith St Petersburg

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NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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16. "Ha. Credit to PSG though. Weathered quite a storm."
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I don't know if that's gonna be sustainable in the 2nd leg, but as long as Mbappe keeps Mbapping, they might have this locked.

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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13. "Bayern just dont stop"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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14. "ripped Porto’s heart out!"
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MOM was Mendy. He made some big saves.

Good games by Chilwell, Mount, Kovacic.
Kante and Pulisic came on as solid subs.

Havertz and Timo Werner weak as usual. And of course,
Werner muffed a goal ( header). Shit went to the moon.

Playing Havertz as a striker made zero sense. There is no time
for experimentation, and to start him over Tammy is senseless.
Tammy will at least give you movement.

2 away goals. We ain’t giving up that at home, too much defense.






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15. "well that was something"
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Bayern-PSG

xG 3.81-1.36
Shots 31-6
Chances 25-6
Big Chances 6-4

If it had been Lewandosvski instead of Choupo no doubt things could have been very different. Still, with our history and recent home form, I'm gonna need a lot of pepsid-ac for next week

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17. "that was wild times"
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18. "LFC are just baffling sometimes."
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19. "Fuckin a. Congrats Smuts. "
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22. "what a wild swing "
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I was so angry at half time. fuckin var

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20. "Alba fucked up on that benzema goal just now"
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Still, great finish

  

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21. "Also, I can’t believe I’m missing Ray Hudson on commentary "
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I can’t believe I wrote that

  

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23. "can Moyes & Lingaard be stopped?"
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opinions differ!

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24. "Rice and 20m for Lingard"
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25. "Tottenham are fucking shithouse personified under Jose"
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26. "shithousery must not prevail though"
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god this will be the most thrilling 3 points of the season if we win. Son and the ref can suck my entire dick

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27. "we need to break the bank on Sancho and Rice"
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Ole has earned it. We are cooking w/ gas

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29. "I hate son so much."
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> Son and the ref can suck my entire dick

  

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30. "he should be embarrased for laying there for 5 mins"
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if we dont score he's up in 5 seconds because that contact is absolutely insignificant to the play. dirty ass pussy ass player.

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31. "💯"
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>if we dont score he's up in 5 seconds because that contact is
>absolutely insignificant to the play. dirty ass pussy ass
>player.

  

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35. "i feel like they need to look at the rules on that kinda shit..."
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because that kinda contact happens all the time, it had no effect on the goal.

so it's like maybe make it a rule like if you go back and look at it Scott gets a yellow (even though it wasn't Son just made the most of it) but since it wasn't really a factor in the goal let the goal stand?

i dunno. seen too many denied goals like that lately.

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28. "really impressive 2d half from United"
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a true collective effort to totally break down Spurs, while still leaving space for individual brilliance

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32. "Atletico are slowly and painfully choking this away"
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expect them to finish 3rd at this rate

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33. "man if Real manage to do the Liga+CL double with this squad..."
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Zidane forever the GOAT

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34. "man I was pulling for them as the underdog"
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painful to see

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36. "Madrid and Chelsea look to move on to the Semifinals."
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Both teams are not as prolific as teams of years past, but both teams
find a way to win regardless of their roster setup. Credit goes to
Zizou and Tuchel, as well as Benzema and Mount.

Let’s bury these cockroaches.....

Hazard will be available to play next week! The Belgium Goat never stops.


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37. "fuck you everton"
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lose every game

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38. "Neymar renewing to 2026"
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https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1381679478364123137

not like anyone can afford to buy him anyway

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39. "interesting"
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42. "He's so fickle."
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Barring Messi arriving in Paris, he'll be looking for an exit soon enough.

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40. "Barcelona photoshopped Coutinho into their team photo, LOL."
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https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1381974319035789312

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41. "Should have left him out."
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What a disappointment he's been. And no one wants to buy either.
Also, I've finally come around to the fact that Dembele is just not up to snuff. Injuries aside, he just has not improved how I would have hoped given his potential. He's still dangerous, but his decision making just hasn't gotten much better. Unless he's on the counter, there's a good chance that the attack dies with him. I think his time is close to up. It should be at least.

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43. "This is like last game, but less so."
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Tend to think Bayern's just gonna grind PSG down now, after getting that first one.

  

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44. "...I can’t believe PSG didn’t score 1st half"
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This 2nd half is gonna be 🔥

  

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45. "I had envisioned a lot of scenarios for this game"
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being behind while out-playing Bayern was definitely not one of them. Can't complain too much about our effort, if anything it's Bayern that's playing strangely subdued, yet it might yet work for them

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46. "its about the most PSG thing you can script so far"
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they are balling. but just an inch off where it counts then Bayern gets some trash pickup lol. i can't imagine Neymar will keep missing though

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47. "nah playing scared would be more on-brand"
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I can't remember us ever going out after out-playing an opponent, historically shrinking under fire is basically our identity

An ex-player scoring a dagger against us is very much our thing tho, we've got that covered today on the PSG misery bingo

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48. "man did someone put a curse on neymar"
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open face goal and the ball is just iiiiinches out of his reach

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49. ".....just took my first breath in 30mins"
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GOT-FUCKIN-DAMN that was tense. I feel like we deserved to go through on aggregate, but ultimately it's just a game of inches

Really impressed by Gueye's game, his play has improved massively recently, played a crucial box-to-box role today. Unlucky for Mbappe+Ney, but it'll make them hungrier

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50. "Easy win for Chelsea."
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Didn’t need to do too much, But sit back for the counter.

Huge mistake by Reece at the end, ball watching, which led
to a fluke Porto goal.

Smells like 2012 all over again.....same scenario too.
Just need Madrid to put down the hammer tomorrow....

On a sour note, the new Chelsea kits are hideous. Like all
focked up. Looks like something out of 80s arena rock. The
Nike nightmare continues.






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51. "Need stats on how many times Pulisic was fouled"
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it has to rival some sort of record.

solid display overall. it's weird to say, but this team *can* win it. the defensive stability isn't going away any time soon. just need the attack to keep progressing.

EDIT: 11 fouls on Pulisic is most in a game in UCL since Messi 2011 vs Real. And the fouls were legit legit. No flopping. Dude took a beating.

  

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52. "how are y'all not gonna mention that exquisite Porto goal"
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yeah yeah the defense could've been tighter. Still a banger (that meant nothing in the end)

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53. "It was a scrimmage goal. It happened in the last few seconds "
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of extra time. The final whistle blew some seconds later. It will not be remembered.

The announcers didn’t even react all that much on the Spanish channel...and you
know how they like to scream goal.

Had it happened earlier in the game, it would have been appreciated.


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54. "Hazard endured that weekly for a decade in the EPL."
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Your mans got to beef up if he wants to follow the swivel god.

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55. "man, in the words of MIB, Hazard is a big bottom small."
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he just naturally beef'd up.

pulisic not that guy.

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56. "He is going to have do something if he wants a"
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long prosperous career in the EPL. His main issue is durability.

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57. "what can he do?"
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i'm sure he works on it, but his issue has been his legs.

you can't tell me, as a professional soccer player, that his legs aren't strong or that he doesn't do everything to take care of them along w/ the club making sure he's taking care of it.

some people are just injury prone.

hopefully he's able to get past it through whatever methods. he's been on a great run lately so maybe he's turned a corner with his fitness.

like, he came out of that game a week or two ago for his hamstring but seems fine now so maybe it's also him learning to trust his body.

some of that shit is mental like you feel something you go "oh shit, something is wrong, can't play" when really you're okay to go.

we'll see how it goes i guess.

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58. "Do you remember early in Messi's career? He had a lot of muscular injuri..."
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They brought in a nutritionist, changed his diet and those issues largely disappeared. Lots of players reject making those kinds of changes, Messi was one when he was younger. He had a famous bust up with Pep over a can of soda in the dressing room. So, I say that to say, there are things you can do to minimize the risk of injuries. Maybe CP is doing those things, but maybe he's not.

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69. "right. that's what i was getting at."
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hopefully he's getting past it, getting to trust his body, and trust the people around him trying to make him the best he can be.

he's crazy talented there's no doubt about that, and when he's healthy and getting minutes and playing in the right spot he always seems to be effective.

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59. "I THINK LIVERPOOL CAN DO IT."
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That is all.

  

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60. "I fucking hope so."
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"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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62. "I AM BECOMING LESS OPTIMISTIC THAT LIVERPOOL CAN DO IT."
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63. "UGH."
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61. "Man, let Smut rest."
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He has been through enough this season.

Let’s not get his blood pressure up.



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64. "AllStah, who you rooting for next round: Chelsea or Madrid?"
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Chelsea, right? Just curious...

  

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65. "Walking in the stadium with "
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my wife (chelsea) on one arm and my mistress(Madrid) on the other.

Seriously, Chelsea is always number 1. My only true club.

One thing is for sure, please sky lord, let PSG beat MC.

Revenge is needed for either Hazard or Tuchel.


You can’t make this shit up, so many storylines...
Hazard vs his former Club, Courtois vs his former club,
Kovacic vs his former club. It’s going to be hard for all.

There is no hate whatsoever...a lot of business and players
between the two.

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67. "🤮🤮🤮"
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>my wife (chelsea) on one arm and my mistress(Madrid) on the
>other.
>
>Seriously, Chelsea is always number 1. My only true club.
>
>One thing is for sure, please sky lord, let PSG beat MC.
>
>Revenge is needed for either Hazard or Tuchel.
>
>
>You can’t make this shit up, so many storylines...
>Hazard vs his former Club, Courtois vs his former club,
>Kovacic vs his former club. It’s going to be hard for all.
>
>There is no hate whatsoever...a lot of business and players
>between the two.

  

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68. "Aren’t you an arsenal guy?"
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If so, go ahead and do an Ashely Cole and come over to
the blue side, my brother.

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70. "Honestly, I'd rather root for United. And I've hated them longer."
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>If so, go ahead and do an Ashely Cole and come over to
>the blue side, my brother.

  

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71. "Then who do you root for?"
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72. "Arsenal. Sorry to confuse "
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73. "This is for you. "
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https://youtu.be/wIWqvf60NhM

Enjoy!

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66. "I told you mofos to kneel awhile ago."
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You didn’t listen. I predicted this.

I invited smut and magilla to become chelsea fans. I was nice and cordial
about it.

I offered. There is still room if you want to join, but time is
running out. You don’t have to settle for mediocre players and
coaches. You can win titles every year.


Just come on through. I got you.



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74. "I don't speak a word of Spanish, I just switched"
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Too Spanish on the city/Chelsea game. This American idiot, was just killing my blood pressure. I'm not too picky, but holy shit, what an absolute moron.

Boring game

  

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75. "good idea, switching now. It's killing me as well"
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>Too Spanish on the city/Chelsea game. This American idiot,
>was just killing my blood pressure. I'm not too picky, but
>holy shit, what an absolute moron.
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>Boring game

  

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78. "I watch most of my soccer on the Spanish channel"
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It’s free, and I know a little bit of Spanish. ..more like Spanglish.
The commercials are way over the top though.

You can escape the bias, and just really watch the game.

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76. "We are the blues! "
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There can only be one.

No baby blue. No baby blue and burgundy....

Straight blue lions.


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77. "Welp, at least Lio won't leave empty-handed nm"
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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79. "I know Belgium has to be furious."
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KDB has always been somewhat injury prone. He is injured
again, and It might be a broken ankle this time.

And Hazard hasn’t played on the team in about a year or so due to injuries.

Since Belgium’s great run in the WC, the two have rarely been on the pitch
together. The Euros are right around the corner, and Belgium could possibly
have to play without their two best players.







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80. "Top European Soccer Teams Agree to Join Breakaway League (swipe)"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/18/sports/soccer/super-league-united-liverpool-juventus-madrid.html

Top European Soccer Teams Agree to Join Breakaway League

A group led by Juventus, Manchester United, Liverpool and Real Madrid has agreed in principle on a plan that would upend the sport’s structures and economics.

LONDON — A group of the world’s richest and most storied soccer clubs has agreed in principle on a plan to create a breakaway European club competition that would, if it comes to fruition, upend the structures, economics and relationships that have bound global soccer for nearly a century.

After months of secret talks, the breakaway teams — which include Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain, Manchester United and Liverpool in England, and Juventus and A.C. Milan in Italy — could make an announcement as early as Sunday, according to multiple people familiar with the plans.

The timing of the announcement appears designed to overshadow Monday’s plan by European soccer’s governing body, UEFA, to ratify a newly designed Champions League, a competition which would be decimated by the departure of its biggest teams.

At least 12 teams have either signed up as founding members or expressed interest in joining the breakaway group, including six prominent teams from England’s Premier League, three from Spain and three from Italy, according to the people with knowledge of the plans. The group has been trying to get other top teams, like Germany’s Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund, to join them in their venture, but to date those clubs — and others — have declined to turn their backs on the decades-old domestic structures and Continental competitions that have underpinned European soccer for generations.

The teams involved so far are limited to almost a dozen from Spain, Italy and England, with a cohort of six from the Premier League — United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham — representing the biggest grouping from a single country. Atlético Madrid is the other team from Spain that is said to have endorsed the project, while the Milan rivals Internazionale and A.C. Milan would join Juventus as Italy’s representatives.

The New York Times contacted a number of clubs involved in the breakaway plans but all declined to comment or did not respond. A UEFA spokesman did not immediately return a request for comment.

UEFA and the top European Leagues, though, are bracing for the breakaway announcement. Officials spent the weekend in discussions about ways to block the plan, including potentially banning the breakaway teams from domestic leagues and from next season’s Champions League, with the breakaway scheduled to begin in 2022. The repercussions of that type of breakup would be seismic for all involved; without the top teams, UEFA and the leagues would face demands for millions of dollars in refunds from the broadcasters who pay billions for television rights to tournaments, and the clubs would lose revenue streams that could cripple their budgets as European soccer continues to emerge from the financial wreckage caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

Among the most notable teams involved in the breakaway group is Juventus, the serial Italian champion. Its chairman, Andrea Agnelli, also leads the European Club Association, an umbrella body for more than 200 top division clubs, the majority of which will be left out of the proposed Super League. He is also a member of UEFA’s executive board. When asked by The Times this year to discuss his role in the talks of a breakaway league, Agnelli brushed off the idea as a “rumor.”

Still, according to documents reviewed by The Times in January, plans for the breakaway league had gathered pace since the summer. Top clubs sought to take advantage of uncertainty in the soccer industry caused by the pandemic to forge a new path that would ensure a degree of financial stability for them but would also almost certainly lead to a significant — and potentially devastating — loss in value and revenue for teams excluded from the project. Each of the would-be permanent members of the proposed super league are being promised 350 million euros, or $425 million, to sign up, the documents said.

Under the proposals reviewed at the time, the super league, which would play its matches in the middle of the week, sought to secure 16 top soccer franchises as permanent members and to add four qualifiers from domestic competitions. The clubs would be split into two groups of 10, with the top four teams in each group qualifying for the knockout stages, culminating in a final that would take place on a weekend.

The event would, according to the documents, generate hundreds of millions of dollars in additional revenue for the participating teams, which are already the richest clubs in the sport. (An alternative version of the plan proposed 15 permanent members and five qualification spots.) The group had entered into discussions with JPMorgan Chase & Co. to raise financing for the project, according to people with knowledge of the matter. The firm has so far declined to comment.

UEFA found a powerful ally in opposition to the plans in FIFA, soccer’s global governing body. FIFA warned that any player who took part in such an unsanctioned league would be banned from appearing in the World Cup. The statement came after UEFAs president, Aleksander Ceferin, demanded support from his FIFA counterpart, Gianni Infantino, amid mounting speculation that the breakaway would have FIFA’s backing.

European soccer leaders huddled on the telephone and in video conferences over the weekend to forge a counterattack. However, finding a solution to the potential loss of the biggest brands in soccer is not an easy task. The Premier League, for example, would lose much of its sheen — and almost certainly a lot of the commercial appeal that has turned it into the richest league in soccer — should it move to banish its top six teams.

As member-owned clubs, Barcelona and Real Madrid would likely require the support of the thousands of their supporters before formally joining, and any German clubs that agree to take part would face similar obstacles. All can expect heavy internal opposition; fan groups from across Europe had already voiced opposition since details of the plans for a super league emerged earlier this year.

  

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81. "it's just a matter of time"
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if it isnt an official breakaway league, it'll be under the CL brand w/ a new format.

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82. "I bet the glazers & kroenkes spearheaded that JP Morgan financing"
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97. "sounds like a Perez/Kroenke operation"
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obv Woodward did his thing on this since he's a JPMorgan dude.

the rest of the English clubs almost seem to be a little ashamed to be part of it but the quotes from Kroenke are hilarious

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84. "This is what happens when you let Americans join the table."
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The focus is on money and not glory. Americans invest for profit only, so
they want to ensure their teams are not left out of tournament competitions,
or subjected to relegation. They fear the FC Portos and the Ajaxs will
knock them out.

It’s the same reason why wack ass MLS doesn’t have a relegation rule.

Roman invested 1 billion dollars into Chelsea, and didn’t see a profit for almost
20 years! Why? He was in it for his love of soccer. He is already wealthy, same
goes for MC.

Luckily, Barcelona and RM are owned by the people. Same thing goes for German
clubs, and they are going to fight back.

Hopefully, Chelsea doesn’t feel pressured to join. If they do, I might have to jump ship.
I can’t support a movement that will ultimately lead to the death of soccer.

So fock Manchester United and Liverpool ...how could anyone follow those two clubs?

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85. "Motherfucker Roman’s got the Russian Mafia. The fuck he need profit fo..."
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Also, hate to tell you but he’s got Chelsea signed on. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/18/five-english-clubs-sign-up-to-european-super-league-report-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Gareth’s gonna be so mad when he can’t bring his golden boy to the Euros.

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86. "Also this shit was Fiorentino Perez’s idea lol"
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87. "Perez has always talked about it. It was just talk."
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He can’t push shit because the supporters have to sign off. All Perez does
is talk.

The Glazers and Liverpool owners are the true pushers of this,
along with JP Morgan. MU’s debt increased from 120 mil to about
400mil, and this was before the pandemic because their TV revenue
was down due to lack of tourney play compared to when Fergie
was coaching.

And with Liverpool looking like they will not finish top 4 this season,
and with the team on a decline because their players are getting old,
their future doesn’t look all that bright.

Roman is a true soccer lover and wants glory and could give a crap
about money, which is why he will spend whatever takes, and fire
coaches on a drop of a dime. So that Russian mafia craps means
nothing.

Americans are simply investing for profits. Their investors don’t know shit about soccer
The owner of Liverpool hired focking Billy Bean, a baseball guy, to focus on soccer
analytics ..FOH.

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88. "Dude's going to be the league chairman, but he has no power. OK."
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And Fiore doesn't have to convince "the supporters" of shit. Real is a "membership" club with such arcane rules for becoming a member that there's only a handful of people that could ever be President. It's nowhere near the egalitarian thing that you're implying.

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89. "Next time read the article."
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“As member-owned clubs, Barcelona and Real Madrid would likely require the support of the thousands of their supporters before formally joining, and any German clubs that agree to take part would face similar obstacles. “

Thousands would need to sign off on it. It’s not a walk in the park, not
even close. So again Perez talking means nada, when he has zero power
on the ACTUAL MOVE.

Liverpool and MU as clubs have total execution power. They don’t need approval
from their supporters.

The “socios” OWN Real Madrid and they vote in a president ( Perez).
The owners have the power, which are the supporters. Perez is
not an owner or part of a group of owners.

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93. "I got some prime river real estate to sell you if you believe "
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"the Socios" are going to do jack or shit to stop this.

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110. "exactly. we're just along for the ride ultimately"
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91. "Also, Thank you for admitting that Mount is the chosen one."
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I see you have come to your senses.

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92. "I said he's Gareth's golden boy."
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90. "Yuck."
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94. "Fuck them all (would say the same if my team was included)"
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96. "From what I read, PSG decline their offer. "
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As well as the top German teams.

It’s a damn shame when a team created during the disco era has more
respect for the game than teams that have been around for over 100 years!

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98. "PSG owner is too in-bed w/ UEFA to go along w/ it"
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and legally I dont think Bayern can decide to enter it w/o a fan vote due to how the German club ownership rules work. so if this does come to fruition either they change their minds or they'll get left behind like your Ajax, Red Star and Celtic/Rangers' of the world.

wild times

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100. "PSG will go along, due to Arab rivalries. Bayern will be interesting..."
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>and legally I dont think Bayern can decide to enter it w/o a
>fan vote due to how the German club ownership rules work. so
>if this does come to fruition either they change their minds
>or they'll get left behind like your Ajax, Red Star and
>Celtic/Rangers' of the world.
>
>wild times

Indeed

EU politics and brexit are gonna be even more wild than it already is with covid and vaccines...

  

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101. "Why do you think they will get left behind?"
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A lot of fans would jump ship, and the PL and CL would
still be attractive as hell.....

Europa is kicking strong even though it used to be a third tier tourney.

I’m telling you right now I would jump ship to the Foxes. Can’t support
that bullshit.





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108. "agreed, my fandom is already wavering since QSI arrived"
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if this comes to pass (and tough to think it wouldn't at some point) I might just switch to Paris FC and watch some sweet sweet Ligue 2 action, uh as long as they don't get relegated from there

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106. "Dortmund & Porto decline invites"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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107. "Villa CEO Purslow: ESL "A grotesque concept""
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Purslow worked previously as a managing director at Liverpool and Chelsea as well.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56800351?fbclid=IwAR1uBCFfG4rnR1IGktOlziBrUFAlY3CJJ4Al21AiLWRxuNwd6KEJaQQB614

"These proposals do away with sporting merit," Purslow told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

"It would enable a small number of clubs to be in this competition come what may and, for millions of people in football, that goes against everything the sport means and stands for.

"The idea is that the uncertainty that comes with sport, that makes it so compelling, that we all love, is actually damaging to the business models of these huge clubs.

"So the scheme is designed to take away that uncertainty, to give predictability to their businesses so that, if they're badly managed or have a poor year, they're still in the premier tournament.

"Does that sound like sport or football to you? To me it sounds a grotesque concept."

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109. "well hes convinced me American pro sports is a sham"
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one perfectly exemplified by the god damned Lions, making money hand over fist for the already ultra-rich Ford family through a cartel that enables profitable mediocrity

Covid alteady dampened my enthusiasm for American pro sports. Watching our avarice infect other sports is killing it altogether.

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83. "United flying. Henderson was all over the place today though"
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a very existential performance from him.

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95. "Looked xtra goofy with that hat"
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99. "the hat was a literal cherry on top for his energy today lol"
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i like how aggressive he is. but there's a chasm between "more aggressive than De Gea" and more aggressive than Manuel Neuer"

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102. "Chosen one unchosen."
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https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2021/april/club-statement/

  

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103. "about damn time"
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who will be the next club to be fooled into thinking they need his Dourness on their sideline?

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104. "terrible hire from day 1"
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dude's been past his prime since he got fired by chelsea a 2nd time

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105. "Liverpool fan groups to remove all flags from Kop"
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fuck all owners, everywhere

https://theathletic.com/news/european-super-league-liverpool-flags-kop/76eyQ0evqaS1

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European Super League: Liverpool fan groups to remove all flags from Kop

By James Pearce

Liverpool supporters’ group Spion Kop 1906 are removing all their banners and flags from the Kop in protest at the club’s “disgraceful” decision to sign up to a new European Super League.

It means the iconic stand, which has been adorned with tributes to legendary players, managers and trophy successes during the pandemic, is set to be bare for Saturday’s home Premier League clash with Newcastle United.
What has been said?

A Spion Kop 1906 spokesman told The Athletic: “We’ve been in contact with the club today to make it clear we want all the banners and the flags all taken down as soon as possible. We’re taking our support is off the table from now.

“We feel we can no longer give our support to a club which puts financial greed above the integrity of the game.

“It’s disgraceful and absolutely disgusting what the owners have done. We don’t know how it’s got this far without fans being consulted.

"They have sold their soul.

"No Liverpool fan could get on board with this Super League. It would be good to hear the manager and the players come out and back the fans on this.”

A statement from the group added: “The new format is a blatant plan for the beneficial clubs to seize even more power and revenue from an already lucrative business model.

“Owners, clubs, management, do you really care about a club’s best interests or just the bank accounts? I think we already know the answer but now is the time to think of years of tradition and do the right thing.”
Have other groups commented?

Fellow supporters’ group Spirit of Shankly are also backing the plan to have the flags and banners removed from the Kop as they make a stand against owners Fenway Sports Group’s decision to join the new league.

Spirit of Shankly tweeted: “As fan representatives we are appalled and completely oppose this decision. FSG have ignored fans in their relentless and greedy pursuit of money. Football is ours, not theirs. Our football club is ours, not theirs.”

Liverpool fans attached two large black banners on to the gates of Anfield outside the Kop on Monday morning. One read ‘Shame On You. RIP LFC 1892 - 2021.’ The other: ‘LFC Fans Against European Super League.’
What is the European Super League?

Twelve European clubs announced their intention to form a breakaway competition on Sunday night.

The teams, who made a joint statement to confirm plans of forming a new European Super League, consist of the following clubs: AC Milan, Arsenal, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, Barcelona, Inter Milan, Juventus, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid and Tottenham Hotspur.
How will the Super League work?

The clubs say that 15 founding clubs - the 12 who have reached the agreement plus three who they expect to join - will be joined by five other teams who qualify each season.

They say the games will be played in midweek, starting in August, with teams playing home and away fixtures in two groups of ten, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter-finals.

Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.

The clubs said that a women's league will also be launched "as soon as practicable" after the start of the men's competition, but provided no further details.

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And he was -rightly- hype about it

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He was clearly flabbergasted and frustrated.

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113. "he knows its about nothing but profit at the expense of fans the sport"
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and he said it.

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114. "Makes it hard to see him at the club long term."
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He was diplomatic, but those differences seem irreconcilable.

  

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115. "i'd have to see it to believe it"
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i can definitely see it. he's a chip off the SAF* block as far as his character. push comes to shove tho...

*boy i'd pay to see the timeline where Woodward and the Glazers try this under SAF. and i use "under" deliberately lol

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118. "RE: Pre-match interview w/ Klopp is must see. Feel bad for the guy."
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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116. "Perez is a madman. Holy shit these comments are unreal"
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theyre coming in so hot I just keep refreshing Fab's twitter
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano

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117. "why dont his friends tell him to chill?"
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hes like the dude thats gonna get the whole group in trouble because he cant stop elaborating on the alibi

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119. "Somebody is having second thoughts."
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/european-super-league-one-of-english-big-six-could-withdraw-after-backlash-from-fans-qf5cf0tsk?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1618918424

EPL, but doesn't identify which.

  

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120. "It's prolly Chelsea, Spurs or Liverpool. Definitely not United or Arsena..."
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>https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/european-super-league-one-of-english-big-six-could-withdraw-after-backlash-from-fans-qf5cf0tsk?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1618918424
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>EPL, but doesn't identify which.

  

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121. "idk if i buy that"
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feels like both sides are playing in the media like clubs do vs each other in transfer season.

if they really unveiled this without the 12 clubs fully invested then they are dumber than i thought. and i already have a super low opinion of their intelligence after they let FloPo get up on TV yesterday and act a fool.

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122. "I read somewhere that both Roman and City weren't all that into it "
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because they're not desperate for the money like some (all?) of the other clubs.

the report said they were basically backed into a corner last week and didn't want to be left out.

who knows how true this is though.

  

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124. "just saw reports that Chelsea + Man City have backed out on twitter"
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and Barca's president is saying barca won't sign up until socios get to vote and players are starting to speak up and/or politically like posts on instagram against it.

Flo's dream is crumbling already...wow

  

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123. "City & Chelsea "out""
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https://twitter.com/MartinLipton/status/1384568903515377665
https://twitter.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/1384569065231028226

well that was a weird 48 hr fever dream

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126. "Atleti too"
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https://twitter.com/JacobsBen/status/1384570576237469697

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128. "That’s my focking squad!!!"
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Where is Magilla?

Told you bro, Roman wants trophies and glory. Man city as well.

From a big 4 to now a big 7, Chelsea will always find a way to win...
We don’t need special leagues.


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127. "How it started:"
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“Importantly, this is the beginning of the journey and we can now start an engagement process with you, supporters and key stakeholders to help shape this process in the right way."

How it's going:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2021/04/liverpool-fc-cancel-staff-meeting-over-super-league-plans/

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129. "https://twitter.com/EnglandSimpsons/status/1384573524828987394"
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https://twitter.com/EnglandSimpsons/status/1384573524828987394

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130. "WOODWARD OUT. IT WAS ALL WORTH IT"
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https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1384580215016460288

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131. "Ha. Was just about to post that news."
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its fucking lit. Madrid, Liverpool and Arsenal leadership need to resign too.

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140. "Juve denies it but who knows"
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134. "LOL, congrats. Glazers have to be pissed"
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135. "congrats man, you earned this one"
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136. "So happy for you, dude. "
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138. "lol holy shit"
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really mad it's happening, but I appreciate it for you.

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137. "What a strange couple of days."
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For starters, how did the 12 clubs not realize how much backlash there would be? Did they do no focus-group testing at all? How could they be seemingly caught so unawares?

Then, how fragile was this thing? This morning I posted that one club was maybe thinking of backing out, and 8 hours later the whole deal is collapsing.

And evidently people's jobs were on the line?

There's the idea that this was a serious move to start this league, and then there's the theory that it was never more than a bargaining tool. But either way, it's incompetent. Spectacularly so.

I'm having trouble making sense of this.

  

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139. "never underestimate how stupid and greedy executives are"
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ESPECIALLY in futbol

of all the things in our society that aren't a meritocracy, 'football executive' is probably near the top.

these people can convince themselves of anything.

https://twitter.com/KuperSimon/status/1384587075115233284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

but yeah, I agree. Still incredible they believed this nonsense would fly.

and that returns of dozens or hundreds of millions of pounds per year isn't enough.

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142. "One thing I will say is that these teams lost a lot of revenue "
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that enormously affected their bottom line, and some are dealing with
some serious debt.

Are they broke?

No.

But pockets are definitely being squeezed.

Owner of Chelsea and MC basically print money, because of their financial
foundation and the empires they are associated with. They basically have an
entire country behind them financially.

But big clubs like Liverpool, MU, etc, can’t afford those huge revenue declines in
the long run. Those investment groups and family owners ain’t rolling in money
like Russians and Arabians.

I don’t care what anyone says about fat mouth Perez. We know what he is,
but the Americans were the pushers of this. They have been trying to turn soccer
into a NFL structure for the longest. NFL games in England aren’t just for show.

The supporters and REAL soccer owners stood up.



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143. "yeah, no one feels bad for Perez and his Galácticos"
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you want to buy every top player in the world? cool. but you're gonna have to deal with the financial ramifications of that during leaner times. same goes for these other clubs.

years of recklessly spending too much money caught up with a few billionaires and now they want an escape route and turned to wall street. fuck them.

  

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146. "FFP was the best thing to happen to Chelsea."
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In the beginning, Roman was spending like crazy. It was his personal money,
but then FFP said you have to spend based on your revenue.

Getting major guap for Luiz to PSG
Selling Morata
Selling Hazard
Selling Courtois
Selling youngins
And the Mega Nike deal brought in Major cake

Chelsea was sitting on close to 400 mil of surplus loot, but was handcuffed because
of transfer penalties. But once the penalties were lifted, Chelsea went on a shopping
spree with money still leftover.

So even the buys of Havertz, Werner, Silva, Chilwell, Mendy and Ziyech weren’t
a financial burden....and all the players, except for Silva, we can flip if they don’t
pan out because they are young.

I know I give Maria a lot of shit because she doesn’t know shit about soccer...but
financially? That woman is a major boss.

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144. "yea desperation was a huge part of this IMO"
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willfull ignorance too, since we are talking about billionaire sports team owners, bu Covid has definitely fucked up a lot of plans and some teams can't afford the risks that open leagues entails

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145. "John Henry is worth nearly three billion dollars. "
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Revenue is down during covid, but that historic crisis is no excuse for this horrid idea.

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147. "You support the Washington team and Liverpool."
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How did you end up here?

Lol

I’m just focking with you.

Seriously, you’re right. Their move was insane.

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141. "I'm still annoyed they announced this after "
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PSG knocked Lyon out of the Women's Champions League on Sunday, first time in 5 years OL won't win it.

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151. "if it was a bargaining tool they bumbled that too"
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once people express such visceral disgust whats left to bargain with?

im sure someone found out that fifa, uefa, and/or the domestic leagues can ban anyone they want whenever they want

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148. "All six EPL teams withdraw."
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149. "I found this extremely satisfying to read"
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https://theathletic.com/2532213/2021/04/20/dont-be-fooled-the-super-league-clubs-gambled-everything-and-they-blew-it/



Don’t be fooled – the Super League clubs gambled everything and they blew it

By Adam Crafton 3h ago

Now we know they were serious. This was not a poker game by the European elite. This was the ultimate roll of the dice; all-in on The Super League. Not a European Super League. But a global franchise, open to expanding beyond the continent.

Many suspected the big boys were posturing, seeking to railroad UEFA into future concessions. Speaking privately on Monday morning, one managing director of a major club outside of the proposed Super League admitted he never truly expected the paperwork to drop on Sunday evening. Even then, he felt the breakaway clubs — the Dirty Dozen — could be hauled back to the table, sweetened by incentives.

Perhaps UEFA would alter the entry format for the Champions League. Maybe the Premier League would receive an extra Champions League place or two, thereby enhancing the probability of the six qualifying for the competition on an even more regular basis. Others felt a greater proportion of television revenue could be diverted the way of Europe’s most famous clubs, keeping them on board for another few years before the next tantrum.

From Sunday night through to Tuesday evening, sources close to the project insisted the clubs remained deadly serious. They had an agreement for debt financing from the American investment bank JP Morgan. A plush public relations agency, InHouse Communications, had been working for several weeks on a website launch and brand. Katie Perrior, a spin doctor who previously worked for British prime ministers Theresa May and Boris Johnson, is chair of the communications agency. The legal drafts of the Super League were drawn up by the multinational law firm Clifford Chance. Documents were filed to courts around Europe and on Tuesday, a Spanish commercial court imposed interim measures that blocked UEFA and FIFA from taking action against clubs in Spain.

Some still envisaged, or hoped, that it may be a dramatic stunt. On Tuesday night, however, as the deck of cards tumbled, one after another, the fallout demonstrated the reality. Twelve of Europe’s most famous clubs had gambled everything — and they blew it.

Manchester United, the kingmakers of the project along with Real Madrid and Liverpool, are the perfect case study. Within an hour of Chelsea’s decision to pull out of the plans, Ed Woodward’s resignation from the club had been confirmed. There were moves to protect Woodward’s reputation.

It emerged he will stay on in his role until the end of 2021. Some sources indicated he had previously been considering his position. Others even said he has personally been against the Super League plan and that he remained personally committed to the UEFA reforms of the Champions League.
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Woodward and Solskjaer in happier times (Photo: John Peters/Manchester United via Getty Images)

Many will find such a position difficult to accept, despite the best efforts of those advocating for the executive. Woodward is a former JP Morgan employee and he aided the highly leveraged takeover of Manchester United for the Glazer family while working for the American bank. Soon after the takeover was completed, he became the family’s chief of staff and eventually rose to the position of executive vice-chairman. He has been their greatest ally and his devotion has, eventually, brought him to his knees. Certainly, he would not have planned to announce his resignation shortly before 9.30pm on a Tuesday night in April.

Woodward is on his knees because United, and their conspirators, fundamentally misunderstood the challenge of breaking away. The strategy of the Super League, astonishingly amateur in its execution, contrived to alienate every possible stakeholder. They even lost the faith of sponsors, as Liverpool’s timing sponsor has now pulled out.

The club’s supporters, a long way down their list of the executive’s concerns, felt betrayed. On Monday, one supporter called up BBC Radio, broke down in tears and reminded the world that a Manchester United team, the team of Sir Matt Busby in 1958, died while attempting to play a game in European competition. The supporters were not consulted but, by now, United fans are used to that.

This became a stunning event because of the many layers of opposition. United’s hierarchy lost the support of the club’s most successful manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, who voiced his opposition to the heist on Sunday evening. Ferguson was understood to be unhappy by the way the club’s current manager, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, had been left to fend questions from broadcasters and journalists.

Solskjaer was only informed of the club’s intentions shortly before kick-off against Burnley last Sunday. Owing to their strong relationship, it is likely that Ferguson would have consulted the club’s manager before intervening publicly. And so it continued. The Glazer family lost former players, such as Gary Neville, who called for the owners to be “booted out” of English football in an extraordinary segment of television on Sky Sports.

Then came the protest from the players. Bruno Fernandes shared a post on Instagram. Marcus Rashford and Luke Shaw followed on Twitter. Sources indicate that several United players were aggrieved by the club’s failure to communicate the plan before the news broke on Sunday evening. United’s players, who, like Solskjaer, felt their manager had been thrown under the bus.

The voices of opposition grew. United lost the trust and respect of their European counterparts. The UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin described how Woodward promised his support only on Thursday before acting like a “snake” over the weekend. Woodward had been a respected and influential member of the European Club Association but after resigning his position on the board and leading a breakaway, there would be no easy way back. He had lost his clout.

Over at UEFA, the uncertainty of the Super League announcement had led Flick Sports, an Australian streaming service, to pull a $60m bid for Champions League rights in the region on Tuesday afternoon. Imagine walking back into UEFA HQ and explaining that one away.

The torrent became front-page news. Prime Minister Boris Johnson threatened to drop a “legislative bomb” on the proposals. Opposition Labour Party leader Keir Starmer led talks with supporters on Tuesday afternoon, also opposed to the Super League.

So, in the space of 48 pitiful hours, Woodward and the Glazer family had lost them all: the fans, the legendary manager, the ex-players, the Premier League, the government, the opposition. Heck, even the Royal Family condemned the breakaway.

And still, none of this mattered. Not until Chelsea walked away, blowing the plan up in flames before Manchester City swiftly followed. It is not only Manchester United, of course, who are sifting through the wreckage on Tuesday evening. Liverpool have an incandescent manager on their hands after Jurgen Klopp was sent out at Leeds on Monday night, forced to answer multiple questions about the actions and ambitions of the club’s owners. He remained furious on Tuesday and his captain Jordan Henderson was rallying Premier League captains to oppose the plans. The players issued joint social media statements opposing the club’s behaviour.

This was a level of discontent that this ham-fisted project never foresaw. Players and coaches so often ignore their club’s defects, accepting the pound signs and lowering their moral compass. But along came a plan that struck at the heart of their childhood love of football: the right to dream, the right to aspire, the right to compete. As much as their owners may have resented it, players at clubs such as Manchester United and Chelsea speak privately of their admiration of Leicester City’s 2016 title victory. These players are football fans, like the rest of us, and they are invigorated even by the ever-decreasing number of upsets.

There were major and glaring flaws from the start. The grand plan had three major shortcomings. The first was the failure to recruit Bayern Munich and Paris Saint-Germain. The 12 clubs had worked around the clock on PSG during the weekend, warning the club’s Qatari president Nasser Al-Khelaifi that the Parisians would be left behind, embarrassed, in the wing mirrors of their illustrious European counterparts.

On Monday night, the Real Madrid president Florentino Perez claimed PSG were not invited. The Athletic has seen documental evidence to prove PSG were in the mix but ultimately, the French club rejected the plan. Without PSG or Bayern, last season’s Champions League finalists, this always appeared a limited ambition. The calculation had been the pair would fall into line, fearful of missing out, but they saw the reaction on Monday and ran a mile. Both clubs had private concerns. When they called their peers, they sensed mistrust between the breakaway clubs. They felt the egos stirring and, as one well-placed source familiar with both clubs said, “They simply could not imagine a world where these 12 clubs happily co-existed.”

Other shortcomings emerged. The Super League claimed that the JP Morgan billions would be set against future broadcast revenue but there was no announcement over a broadcast partner. This does not mean discussions did not take place but no organisation was prepared to put their name to the plan when the clubs needed the credibility most.

In the coming days, the Premier League’s self-styled big six will seek to paint the politicking of this week on their own terms. Do not fall for it. They held the power and influence at UEFA and the ECA previously. Now they return, heads bowed, shamed, scrambling for a seat at the top table. Amid the frenzy, desperate to push PSG and Bayern over the line, the Super League club executives resigned from their positions at major governing bodies. And still the French and the Germans did not flinch.

Perhaps the ultimate failure lay in just how ordinary this extraordinary moment became. The Super League announcement on Sunday night was light in detail. The clubs told the world there would be 15 founding members, yet only 12 had signed up. They told us there would be five places available for mortal clubs but gave no information on how these clubs may qualify for the tournament. They inserted one paltry line on plans for a women’s equivalent tournament but few details on how it would aid the women’s game, and it did not include Lyon, the winner of the past five Champions League titles. We expected elucidation in the following days. We waited. And we waited. And we waited.

And, soon enough, it became clear there was no strategy. Could billionaires really be this average? The owners of the “big six” clubs and their respective CEOs lost their tongues. They did not articulate their vision to the world. They did not even attempt to win hearts and minds. They spent time squabbling among themselves, trying to decide who would be best placed to make the pitch, before realising all six clubs lacked a figure with the combination of charisma and clout to command the nation’s attention.

In their absence, a vacuum developed for those who could rip apart, morsel by morsel, the greed and selfishness that underpinned the plans. In Europe, Real Madrid president Florentino Perez took to the airwaves in Spain and it was an utter calamity.

As one rival club said: “He mouthed off on his soapbox like he runs the world. He really thought he could change the format of football from a 90-minute game just because 12 rich, old men decided it should be that way.”

Perhaps most ironically, the Dirty Dozen had already achieved UEFA reforms that shifted the status quo inexorably towards the elite. They have the best managers, they sign the most expensive players, and they secure the highest proportion of television and commercial revenue. And yet, these executives wanted more. They always want more. Maybe there should be a broadcast partner after all. How about Amazon Prime? All or Nothing. Where, for once, the richest clubs end up with very little at all.

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150. "good one- thanks nm"
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152. "Good read."
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Thanks for that.
I'm curious about Laporta and his involvement. He claimed to be opposed to the Super League while he was campaigning for Barca's presidency, but we were announced as one of the teams who'd signed on to join. And then yesterday he said we would take part if our joining was ratified but the members. That seems a little too convienent, but perhaps will allow him an "out" that he probably doesn't deserve.

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153. "Mes Que Une Club has been one HELL of a shield"
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Because their behavior over the last 15 years has been nowhere near what the Barca ideal would have you believe. From tapping up academies, to questionable sponsorship deals to dodgy taxes . . .

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154. "it's been shameful, and Laporta started that slide"
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with some weird shenanigans of signing brazilian non-prospects for weird amounts of money, but Rosell + Barto sped it up exponentially. That's why I was hoping for Font--while Laporta's safely capable of steering the ship, Font at least was legitimately a mes que un club based plan of action.

story--albeit, likely somewhat leaked by Laporta people--that both the club and UEFA's president are giving are that the dire finances and the months of work Barto spent on this made Laporta have to sign on to the ESL as it went forward, but the general assembly in may was always his potential out and that's his plan. Perez keeps talking and making it worse.

I hope Laporta openly campaigns for Barca to leave the super league, but he's also trying to avoid further financial issues (there might be a penalty for leaving the super league as a founder).

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156. "He's saying that it's "necessary" but that the socios will decide"
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So, he's covering his bases. I'm annoyed that he campaigned as being against the shit just to capitulate as soon as he's prez. I get that we're fucked financially, but his whole shit was that he could fix that.

I was hoping for Font too.

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155. "as we know, there are no good billionaries."
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or billion dollar companies/brands/clubs/teams.

Anyone foolish enough to think the multi-billion dollar brand they root for is different or less profit driven than any other needs to stop consuming American Enterprise Institute's propaganda for breakfast.

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157. "Yep. My boy Purslow’s been saying all the right things"
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But he’s the guy that delivered LFC to Fenway and he’s the guy that signed those massive sponsorship deals for Chelsea that allowed them to be in the position to do this without a real care for the fallout.

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160. "MY billionaire is good because he roots for the right team"
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but EVERYONE ELSE'S billionaire is bad and has no morals and is just in it for the money.

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158. "Lio still the god. Bow down in the presence of a real one."
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159. "anyone watching Copa Libertadores?"
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BeIN is showing 3 group stage matches a night midweek

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