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"2021 NBA Regular Season (2/21-2/27)"


  

          


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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Shoutout to New Orleans for completing that comeback...
Feb 21st 2021
1
Gonna be some changes in Boston, soon....
Feb 21st 2021
2
Tatum and Brown aren’t going anywhere and Kemba will be hard to move
Feb 21st 2021
7
They *finally* gave Zion the ball with the game on the line...
Feb 22nd 2021
24
Anybody catch that "Posterized" feature on "Countdown" just now?
Feb 21st 2021
3
no. sounds dope, tho.
Feb 21st 2021
5
It was not good
Feb 21st 2021
6
      Edit.
Feb 21st 2021
14
      Come the fuck on it was like a 10min segement in a pregame show
Feb 21st 2021
20
           RE: Come the fuck on it was like a 10min segement in a pregame show
Feb 22nd 2021
26
      How'd I know you'd come in with the hate hate hate nm
Feb 21st 2021
18
      Not hating.
Feb 21st 2021
21
      Kemp over Lister better have been there
Feb 22nd 2021
22
           RE: Kemp over Lister better have been there
Feb 22nd 2021
25
off-the-ball Kyrie Irving is just sick
Feb 21st 2021
4
Was PG injured?
Feb 21st 2021
8
RE: Was PG injured?
Feb 21st 2021
10
RE: Was PG injured?
Feb 21st 2021
19
What a bullshit foul call in the last seconds by the ref!
Feb 21st 2021
9
Ryan Saunders can update his LinkedIn
Feb 21st 2021
11
WOJ: Wolves Fire Ryan Saunders....#freeKAT
Feb 21st 2021
12
KAT isn’t going anywhere
Feb 21st 2021
13
it’s a joke, man
Feb 21st 2021
15
      I hear a lot of people saying that, from an organizational side it would...
Feb 22nd 2021
28
already hiring Raptors’ assistant, Chris Finch
Feb 21st 2021
16
why him?
Feb 22nd 2021
27
I guess internally the team had expectations for this season
Feb 21st 2021
17
Injuries COVID and no defense whatsoever
Feb 22nd 2021
23
Hate to say it, but we know why Ryan got the job in the first place.
Feb 22nd 2021
29
right.
Feb 22nd 2021
30
Same reason Luke Walton is an NBA coach
Feb 22nd 2021
32
The GM said he expects playoffs earlier in the year
Feb 22nd 2021
31
When you don’t have 2 “top 5” players you can’t win a game Vogel...
Feb 23rd 2021
33
When your team is built around 2 “top 5” players
Feb 23rd 2021
37
      RE: When your team is built around 2 “top 5” players
Feb 23rd 2021
38
           Who is saying anything about sympathy?
Feb 24th 2021
53
Wizards vs Lakers: a tale of two halves...
Feb 23rd 2021
34
Trash, trash, trash. So disappointing.
Feb 23rd 2021
35
Lechoke is back. Buss out the memes
Feb 23rd 2021
36
ahhhh the sky is falling!!!!!
Feb 23rd 2021
39
Nah...
Feb 23rd 2021
40
Basically. Im sure the lakers have beaten up on some injured squads
Feb 23rd 2021
41
entire league isn’t missing their 2nd and 3rd best player
Feb 23rd 2021
42
Portland is
Feb 23rd 2021
43
Obviously all the credit goes to Carmelo though
Feb 23rd 2021
45
      This nigga, here.
Feb 23rd 2021
47
Lol nets have played without their top 3 players pre harden
Feb 24th 2021
57
      That’s the East though
Feb 24th 2021
63
           LOL they were only playing East teams when they lost players?
Feb 26th 2021
122
nah we earned the benefit of the doubt IMO
Feb 23rd 2021
48
I'm not totally tripping, of course
Feb 23rd 2021
46
All-star snubs?
Feb 23rd 2021
44
So, that’s clearly Luka’s spot
Feb 24th 2021
49
Adam Silver said its not about the few thousand that would attend...
Feb 24th 2021
51
Have you apologized to Luka Dončić yet?
Feb 24th 2021
50
has he apologized to his team for coming in out of shape and playing...
Feb 24th 2021
52
      This is such an usual agenda to have regarding a 21 year old.
Feb 24th 2021
54
      lol word. And the out of shape bit is comical when we're talking about
Feb 24th 2021
55
      People want to call him a MVP favorite at 21 he takes what goes with it....
Feb 24th 2021
56
           Not winning mvp does not equal not living up to the hype
Feb 24th 2021
58
           the hype was that he would be in the running for mvp.
Feb 24th 2021
59
                exactly he named a MVP "favorite" before the season even started
Feb 24th 2021
61
                     There are always preseason favorites
Feb 24th 2021
65
                     Whole lot of support
Feb 24th 2021
66
                          Re: Luka being "inefficient"
Feb 25th 2021
68
                               He career stats say that you’re wrong.
Feb 25th 2021
77
                                    Dame and Luka not that far apart in shooting this year
Feb 25th 2021
78
                                         Lillard situation is totally different ..way different.
Feb 25th 2021
85
                                              Doncic, at 34.9%, is a poor shooter, but Zingis, at 35.2%, is excellent?
Feb 25th 2021
87
                                                   Kristaps only played 4 more games than CJ. And Hardaway Jr?
Feb 25th 2021
88
                                                   RE: Kristaps only played 4 more games than CJ. And Hardaway Jr?
Feb 25th 2021
93
                                                        Gary Trent Jr. hitting at 43% from 3 for PDX too.
Feb 25th 2021
96
                                                             Right. That’s the point.
Feb 25th 2021
99
                                                                  the difference between their teams is like 3 games in the standings?
Feb 25th 2021
101
                                                                       RE: the difference between their teams is like 3 games in the standings?
Feb 25th 2021
102
                                                                       It’s not worth the effort you’re putting into this, lol.
Feb 25th 2021
104
                                                                            RE: It’s not worth the effort you’re putting into this, lol.
Feb 26th 2021
106
                                                                            Me in this post: “Dame should’ve started over Luka.”
Feb 26th 2021
112
                                                                            RE: Me in this post: “Dame should’ve started over Luka.”
Feb 26th 2021
114
                                                   I was referring to Tim Hardaway
Feb 25th 2021
91
           Seems like a majority of the players and teams that played bubble ball
Feb 24th 2021
60
      dude trying to emulate Shaq work ethnic
Feb 25th 2021
70
zion might end up with 70% FG when this season is over
Feb 24th 2021
62
Bully ball with freakish athleticism. Boy is a problem.
Feb 24th 2021
64
Zach Lavine is the Dominique Wilkins of SG
Feb 25th 2021
67
LOL...the fuck? Both combined, ain’t worth Shai
Feb 25th 2021
69
This is a lazy take.
Feb 25th 2021
94
      You keep mentioning offense.
Feb 25th 2021
95
      LaVine has changed this season.
Feb 25th 2021
98
           RE: LaVine has changed this season.
Feb 25th 2021
100
      Also, my take on Lavine doesn’t mean I don’t like him.
Feb 25th 2021
97
is Utah the best team in the NBA?
Feb 25th 2021
71
is it time for Brad Stevens to go?
Feb 25th 2021
72
Barring a huge turnaround, he's likely gone after the season at least
Feb 25th 2021
73
nah this is Ainge's mess. Stevens will be collateral damage though
Feb 25th 2021
74
Is this season a Stevens issue or an Ainge issue?
Feb 25th 2021
75
It’s Ainge
Feb 25th 2021
76
      I agree you should still be over .500 with Jayson Tatum & Jaylen Brown
Feb 25th 2021
79
           Jayson Tatum had COVID and was out of grip of game because of it.
Feb 25th 2021
81
           Sure, but I don't think Stevens should be on the hot seat yet
Feb 25th 2021
84
                exactly and every other team in the East has had the same issues...
Feb 25th 2021
86
                     okay, so fire every coach in the East then?
Feb 25th 2021
89
                          every other coach is not in their 7th season under .500 w/ 2 All-Stars
Feb 25th 2021
90
                               I could see your point if they missed the playoffs last year or somethin...
Feb 25th 2021
92
                                    wait the bar is playoffs?? That's it? Oh to be white in the NBA
Feb 26th 2021
119
                                         When your stars were 22 and 23 and you made the ECF?
Feb 26th 2021
128
                                         Of course not, and you’re missing a bunch of context
Feb 26th 2021
135
                                              and we forget only black coaches get fired with winning records
Feb 27th 2021
156
                                                   RE: and we forget only black coaches get fired with winning records
Feb 27th 2021
157
Let’s slow down here for a moment.
Feb 25th 2021
80
      I agree...
Feb 25th 2021
82
      fair. they've been hit w/bad luck and have time to right the ship
Feb 25th 2021
83
Damien LIllard moves up number 3 on the MVP ladder
Feb 25th 2021
103
just glad to see the Cavs winning games after that bullshit
Feb 25th 2021
105
The “Sexland” backcourt is too small, opposing guards lick their cho...
Feb 26th 2021
110
      You sound like some of those cranks on the other forum.
Feb 28th 2021
159
Dallas just got smacked around by the Sixers
Feb 26th 2021
107
If I was a 6ers fan, I would be inclined to call Luka a fraud
Feb 26th 2021
108
simmons locked luka up even worse than that.
Feb 26th 2021
111
Ben is a Top 3 defender in the league, minimum.
Feb 26th 2021
113
      RE: Ben is a Top 3 defender in the league, minimum.
Feb 26th 2021
115
           Totally inefficient, unless you go by stats and stuff.
Feb 26th 2021
116
           RE: Totally inefficient, unless you go by stats and stuff.
Feb 26th 2021
121
           Dude lives in the Fake News world. Just ignore him.
Feb 26th 2021
126
                It was a welcome distraction to work yesterday
Feb 26th 2021
132
                     lol, totally fair
Feb 26th 2021
134
           Honestly forgot...he had knee surgery on the break before the bubble
Feb 26th 2021
117
dudes on here getting defensive over Luka will never not
Feb 26th 2021
118
      He's like NBA JJ Watt - he's real nice, but gets outsized love for sure
Feb 26th 2021
120
      he is putting up 29 8 and 9 in his 3rd year in games that count
Feb 26th 2021
123
      And him being white *does matter* for the media coverage.
Feb 26th 2021
127
           i don't know..media coverage and all star starters arent really that imp...
Feb 26th 2021
131
           But those things *do* make emotional impact.
Feb 26th 2021
133
                I suppose. But i look at luka, his numbers, his games and said he's amaz...
Feb 26th 2021
137
                     lmao, you're also not immune to emotional attachment!
Feb 26th 2021
138
                          Lol true and oh not to mention
Feb 26th 2021
143
           RE: this board is going to shit
Feb 26th 2021
140
                this board *is* shit, posts stay on the first page for 2 weeks...
Feb 26th 2021
144
                you don't say 🤔
Feb 26th 2021
148
                A mute feature would solve SO MUCH.
Feb 26th 2021
146
      fam we gotta draw up battle lines on luka & see where everybody stands.
Feb 26th 2021
136
The end of that Wiz / Nuggets game is why I barely watch the league now.
Feb 26th 2021
109
please expand on this
Feb 26th 2021
124
last possession by the Nuggets
Feb 26th 2021
125
      thanks beezo 🙄
Feb 26th 2021
129
           .
Feb 26th 2021
130
           lol.
Feb 26th 2021
139
           Lol. Poor bball iq and lack of effort nightly is killin the game.
Feb 26th 2021
142
                I agree, the league overall is younger and while the players are more...
Feb 26th 2021
145
                i think that was just an egregiously bad play
Feb 26th 2021
149
                     I also thought it was suspect that Murray chose to clown his teammates.....
Feb 27th 2021
154
                          I'm glad he did. everyone should be called out for that dumb shit
Feb 27th 2021
158
Another example of analytics and “advanced stats” ruining basketball...
Feb 26th 2021
141
Analytics would say go for a wide open two.
Feb 26th 2021
147
Soon as someone goes Sanaa Lathan 1-0 break pullup 3, I’m done
Feb 26th 2021
150
Maria Taylor tho
Feb 26th 2021
151
schroeder is the battery. interesting
Feb 26th 2021
152
definitely
Feb 27th 2021
153
Green with the triple-double vs the very same hornets he lost to
Feb 27th 2021
155
LOL @ Ben shooting that 3 at the end of the game
Feb 28th 2021
160

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1. "Shoutout to New Orleans for completing that comeback..."
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..Young squad dug deep to dig out of that hole and get the win in overtime.

Can't believe Boston let that one get away.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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2. "Gonna be some changes in Boston, soon...."
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just feels like this unit is capped. Don’t know who it will be, but hey just...ugh.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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7. "Tatum and Brown aren’t going anywhere and Kemba will be hard to move"
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>just feels like this unit is capped. Don’t know who it
>will be, but hey just...ugh.

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24. "They *finally* gave Zion the ball with the game on the line..."
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... and what do you know? It worked! lol

Zion's just such a monster, dude. Absolutely unreal basketball player.

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3. "Anybody catch that "Posterized" feature on "Countdown" just now?"
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Was really dope. Had little sit-downs with Erving, Kemp, Carter, McGrady and featured clips of all of the greats..

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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5. "no. sounds dope, tho. "
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6. "It was not good"
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Sun Feb-21-21 10:50 PM by allStah

          

Good idea. Poorly executed.

Showed some of the wackiest dunks ever...probably input from
mostly youngins or something. Jordon over Mutumbo? Should have been
Jordan over Ewing or Mourning.

They Baron Davis over AK47. It was good, but come on.

They forgot some of the greatest poster dunks ever.

KJ over Hakeem.

And to me one of the greatest posters of them all ..possibly greatest

Tom Chambers over Mark Jackson.

And I don’t recall seeing anything by Dominique Wilkins

You just can’t piece something like that together. You have to really put it together

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14. "Edit."
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They showed a quick second of Wilkins, but didn’t really focus on anything.

And they did show a flash of Tom Chambers, but it was like a second.

They mainly focused on the Baron Davis dunk. The Ervin over Cooper Dunk,
Mike over Mutumbo dunk, and the Vince Olympic dunk.

The editing was flash quick, and it should have been more detailed. It seemed more like
a preview than an actual segment.

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20. "Come the fuck on it was like a 10min segement in a pregame show"
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It wasn't a full-length documentary or even a 30 for 30, although hopefully it might become or inspire one of the two.

I enjoyed it and do not expect it to win a Golden Globe or an Oscar or anything. It was a pleasant surprise.

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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26. "RE: Come the fuck on it was like a 10min segement in a pregame show"
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I feel you.


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18. "How'd I know you'd come in with the hate hate hate nm"
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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21. "Not hating."
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Just tired of seeing stuff just thrown together. If you’re going to cover something
like poster dunks, be thorough about it.

If you thought it was cool, then that’s fine.

Highlight Jordan’s dunk over Mutumbo? That was after his first retirement. Legs
weren’t the same.

The one over Ewing is his most epic one because of the multiple moves that led to the
Poster.


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22. "Kemp over Lister better have been there"
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25. "RE: Kemp over Lister better have been there"
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Yeah, they had Kemp in here. They highlighted him.

I would have snapped if he wasn’t on there.

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4. "off-the-ball Kyrie Irving is just sick "
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8. "Was PG injured?"
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10. "RE: Was PG injured?"
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I believe he tweaked something...

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19. "RE: Was PG injured?"
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They further explained that he had a minutes restriction.

He just got back from being injured, so they were protecting his health

He didn’t re-injure himself.

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9. "What a bullshit foul call in the last seconds by the ref!"
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You allow the illegal contact by Harden during the play, Kawhi is pushing
the illegal contact away ( which they ignore), and then harden FLOPS and a foul
is called while Kawhi puts in the basket.


Should have been an AND 1...putting clippers ahead.


This era is terrible with that flopping shit.

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11. "Ryan Saunders can update his LinkedIn"
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12. "WOJ: Wolves Fire Ryan Saunders....#freeKAT"
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13. "KAT isn’t going anywhere "
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15. "it’s a joke, man"
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28. "I hear a lot of people saying that, from an organizational side it would..."
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stupid for a small market cold weather city to give away a young all-star big man unless they're getting aan all-star caliber player in return

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16. "already hiring Raptors’ assistant, Chris Finch"
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when I threw the rifle in the river,
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27. "why him?"
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17. "I guess internally the team had expectations for this season"
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But realistically how could anyone expect the team to be much better than they are?

That being said, I haven't watched MIN any this year (outside of that crazy dunk by Edwards the other day). So maybe Saunders was a poor in-game coach or he may have lost the team.

Either way, it seems silly to fire him now.

The real loser might be Golden State because they are able to keep MIN's #1 if it's outside the top 3 right? If the T-Wolves start winning, that pick might not turn out to be the game-changer GS may want.

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23. "Injuries COVID and no defense whatsoever"
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>But realistically how could anyone expect the team to be much
>better than they are?
>
>That being said, I haven't watched MIN any this year (outside
>of that crazy dunk by Edwards the other day). So maybe
>Saunders was a poor in-game coach or he may have lost the
>team.
>
>Either way, it seems silly to fire him now.
>
>The real loser might be Golden State because they are able to
>keep MIN's #1 if it's outside the top 3 right? If the T-Wolves
>start winning, that pick might not turn out to be the
>game-changer GS may want.

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29. "Hate to say it, but we know why Ryan got the job in the first place."
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He was never ready for the gig, was in over his head from the jump.
He should not have even lasted this long.

Too bad the no one can fire Glen Taylor.

--
"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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30. "right."
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32. "Same reason Luke Walton is an NBA coach"
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>He was never ready for the gig, was in over his head from the
>jump.
>He should not have even lasted this long.
>
>Too bad the no one can fire Glen Taylor.

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31. "The GM said he expects playoffs earlier in the year"
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which was obviously really silly but he gotta try to save his job now

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33. "When you don’t have 2 “top 5” players you can’t win a game Vogel..."
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37. "When your team is built around 2 “top 5” players "
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And one of them goes out.

  

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38. "RE: When your team is built around 2 “top 5” players "
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you with sympathy? You didn’t have that regarding Miami and Portland losing
their top players when facing the lakers in the PO last season. ...Miami lost Dragic and
Bam for the championship.

Just like those coaches continued to coach and keep their teams competitive, Vogel
should be able to do the same thing.

And your mans missed a free throw to seal it.

Let me get my shield because I know you’re going to come with
the personal attacks....aight ,I’m ready.

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53. "Who is saying anything about sympathy? "
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>you with sympathy? You didn’t have that regarding Miami and
>Portland losing
>their top players when facing the lakers in the PO last
>season. ...Miami lost Dragic and
>Bam for the championship.

You're a moron. A complete idiot. More on this later.

You keep saying stupid shit like this "sympathy" bit, and it has no basis in reality.

I'm not begging for sympathy.
I'm not whining.
I'm not complaining.
I'm not doing.... well, any of the weird, moronic things you keep going to in these discussions.

>Just like those coaches continued to coach and keep their
>teams competitive, Vogel
>should be able to do the same thing.
>
>And your mans missed a free throw to seal it.
>
>Let me get my shield because I know you’re going to come
>with
>the personal attacks....aight ,I’m ready.

No, it's not personal. It's addressing the actual content of your argument, and your persistence in replying with things that are either asinine or straight up non-sequiturs.

If you're really this invested in playing this dunce ass caricature of a poster in 2021, have at it.

If you're really as dumb and incapable of holding anything resembling a reasonable conversation based in reality, you need to figure out a way to fix that, or maybe just shut the fuck up, and I won't point out how fucking stupid you are.

I have no problem with you as a person. You're just a really stupid person to even try to hold a decent conversation with. That's just what it is. It's not snark, not intended as an insult, and it's not an ad hominem. It's just a fucking fact.

  

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34. "Wizards vs Lakers: a tale of two halves..."
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..Lakers shat the bed in the 2nd half.

They managed to send the game to overtime, but still continued to struggle.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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35. "Trash, trash, trash. So disappointing. "
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36. "Lechoke is back. Buss out the memes"
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MVPs don’t choke at the free throw line to win the game.

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39. "ahhhh the sky is falling!!!!!"
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ofc we look bad without AD and Schroeder
We can’t run any of the shit we’ve ran all year, and we can’t install temp shit because they aren’t practicing due to covid.


and you can only play Bron ball in the 36 mins he plays. This what it’s gonna be until they come back.

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40. "Nah..."
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..Everything you just stated is valid, but that doesn't change anything.

The entire league is facing the same scenario (injuries, covid, etc).

No excuses.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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41. "Basically. Im sure the lakers have beaten up on some injured squads"
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Shits gonna be like that for teams all year..possibly the playoffs too.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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42. "entire league isn’t missing their 2nd and 3rd best player "
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43. "Portland is "
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No McCollum, No Nurkic. No Collins since the beginning of the season.

Lillard still balling and winning. Old Carmelo on the bench and a bunch
Of avg ballers.

Like your mans said NO EXCUSES.

And before you say it. PRESSED. Lol

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45. "Obviously all the credit goes to Carmelo though "
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I’m glad you see it.

  

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47. "This nigga, here."
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Nice way to deflect...its was slick. I’ll give you that.

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57. "Lol nets have played without their top 3 players pre harden"
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Philly suited up 8 players.

You can go down the line

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63. "That’s the East though "
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A conference where the Knicks and Hornets are looking like playoff teams.

  

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122. "LOL they were only playing East teams when they lost players?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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48. "nah we earned the benefit of the doubt IMO"
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everybody know what its gonna be if were healthy in the playoffs. the league hinges on that "if"
and you cant say that for any other team in the league. not even the nets.
i can live w/ that

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46. "I'm not totally tripping, of course"
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They're gonna coast and be bad with AD and Dennis out.

And honestly - given I've been lucky enough to see how these things play out - I'm not going to be upset this year. Come playoffs, that might change...but I'm going to appreciate how lucky we've been as fans and just wait and see.

But they look very beatable, even with AD & Dennis. Granted, AD isn't healthy...but...yeah.

It'll be fine either way but you hate to waste a prime (lol) Bron year.

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44. "All-star snubs?"
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49. "So, that’s clearly Luka’s spot"
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.

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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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51. "Adam Silver said its not about the few thousand that would attend... "
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the game but the millions that will watch around the world. The NBA is all about pushing its global marketing and pursuing those worldwide dollars. They wanted Luka and Jokic on that starter poster

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50. "Have you apologized to Luka Dončić yet?"
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and by you, I mean Reeq


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52. "has he apologized to his team for coming in out of shape and playing..."
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like shit at the start of the season?

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54. "This is such an usual agenda to have regarding a 21 year old."
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Riding this agenda like he's a seasoned vet is kinda extra.

Dude is objectively very good at basketball. And he's 21. Perhaps we can save this agenda crusade for a few years?

  

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55. "lol word. And the out of shape bit is comical when we're talking about"
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a 2 month offseason after dude played injured in the playoffs.

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56. "People want to call him a MVP favorite at 21 he takes what goes with it...."
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no PLEA COPPING when he doesn’t live up to the hype

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58. "Not winning mvp does not equal not living up to the hype"
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He's putting up 29,9 and 9 on a .500 team.

He's amazing.

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59. "the hype was that he would be in the running for mvp."
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that *was* the hype.

that he would be firmly entrenched in the upper tier.

that he would ascend to a perennial contender leading his team at the top of the league like lebron, giannis, kawhi, etc.

that he was gonna continue to make strides and be above embiid, jokic, lillard, curry, mitchell, etc.

basically that he would be nipping at brons heels (if not overtaking him).

not that he would average around the same points, fractionally better assists, and almost a full rebound less than last season...on a team that was .500 two weeks before all star break.

lets not act like the preseason hype/anointment wasnt what it was.



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61. "exactly he named a MVP "favorite" before the season even started"
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65. "There are always preseason favorites"
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There are always players who look primed to do XYZ

"Preseason previews" are a thing.

It's not exactly a thing that spurs incredulity.

  

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66. "Whole lot of support "
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for an inefficient, stat padding white guy.

The focus should be more on Jokic. Now that’s a white guy who can ball.

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68. "Re: Luka being "inefficient""
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His Player Efficiency Rating is 7th in the NBA. His PER is tied with Zion's. That's the guy we're calling inefficient?

Maybe you don't want to view him through counting stats-- totally fair. His assist rate is 1st in the NBA. Not assist totals. Assist *rate.* And his turnover rate is lower than Bron's, lower than that of more All-Stars than I can count on one hand, despite having a higher usage rate than any player in the NBA. That's inefficient?

Maybe you exclusively view efficiency through the lens of shooting-- which would be silly, but let's say that's what you do. Even through that very specific lens, he's shooting 44% from 3 in February on nearly 8 attempts per game. So we're choosing late February *of all months* to call him inefficient? lol

Maybe you think all of these stats are empty, and he simply doesn't affect winning. Then how is he third in the NBA in plus-minus, tied with Giannis? How is he second in the NBA in Value Over Replacement Player, tied with Giannis and Steph? How is his On/Off +8.1, compared to Dallas's other starters, Hardaway Jr. (-2.1), Richardson (-2.7), and Zingis (an appalling -8.8)?

I agree that the media has hyped Luka too much too quickly, as they basically always do with insanely young NBA stars, especially white stars. And while the media obviously named him the MVP favorite in part because he was clearly going to lead the NBA in usage this year (and he is), the narrative of course plays a role. I agree that that part of it is annoying. And I agree that Damian Lillard should've started over Doncic in the NBA All-Star Game.

... but we don't need to lie and say that Luka is inefficient. And we don't need to pretend he's Dallas's problem right now.

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77. "He career stats say that you’re wrong."
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His career 3pt pct is 32pct. He is shooting 34 pct from 3 for the season.
below avg(35 pct). And his career FG pct is 45 pct. And he is absolute
shit defensively.

Compare that to his peers and he is an inefficient white boy,
so the title baby bird and all this other hype is way off. He hasn’t been
a sharp shooter in any season. He is a poor shooter.

Almost Every top PG shoots better than him from 3!

Paul
Curry
Harden
Murray
Lillard
Brogdon
Fox
Holiday

Hitting a game winner every blue moon does not make you efficient and
never will. Like I said whole lot of chirping for a white boy who has been
Inefficient from day 1.

And please stop posting PERs. Giannis’ PER is up there with Mike’s
and Giannis shooting is inefficient as fock...Same with Westbrook

INEFFICIENT STAT PADDING WHITE GUY.







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78. "Dame and Luka not that far apart in shooting this year"
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EFG% - Dame is at .547, Luka at .534.

Luka has higher FG% and Dame has higher 3Pt%.
Luka also outpacing him in assists and rebounds.

Dame should have got it IMO, but it's an all star game, and they both got in, so kind of who gives a shit? Luka has kind of been balling this year - even if the media hype somewhat outpaces the results.

Luka's good, and it isn't a massive injustice that he got the nod.

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85. "Lillard situation is totally different ..way different."
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Since day 1 ,basically, Lillard lost the second and third best players on
his team, and lost possibly the 4 best player in Collins.

So Lillard is the focus of the defense every night with no let up. And
Portland is the 5th seed higher than Dallas.


Doncic has his second best player in Porzingis, and third best player in Hardaway.
Excellent shooters.

What Lillard is doing is far better than what any player is doing right now. Doncic
is not even in the same zip code.

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87. "Doncic, at 34.9%, is a poor shooter, but Zingis, at 35.2%, is excellent?"
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Got it.

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88. "Kristaps only played 4 more games than CJ. And Hardaway Jr?"
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It's not like Luka is underachieving w/a vastly superior roster.

Dame is nice, and I lean his way. There's not lightyears of difference based on this season.

Also -
Portland is 18-13, while Dallas is 15-15, so 2.5 games back in the standings. Again, not a huge difference.

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93. "RE: Kristaps only played 4 more games than CJ. And Hardaway Jr?"
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Hardaway is shooting 40 percent from 3. That matters.

If Lillard were on Dallas they would be a top 4 seed, and Luka
on Portland would be crap. You know it, bro

Lillard has to depend on Carmelo taking ginseng to get some help.

Let’s be fair here.

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96. "Gary Trent Jr. hitting at 43% from 3 for PDX too."
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>Hardaway is shooting 40 percent from 3. That matters.
>
>If Lillard were on Dallas they would be a top 4 seed, and
>Luka
>on Portland would be crap.

you just say this stuff like it's a fact, but most of the stats you throw out or get hung up on actually point to a pretty comparable situation.


I sanction Luka hate, but if we're being honest he's perfectly fine starting an all star game this year.

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99. "Right. That’s the point. "
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Luka has the same 40 percent shooter and look
at how his team is struggling. And that is on top of him
having the team’s second scoring option.

Lillard lost the team’s second, third and possibly fourth scoring
option.

Come on, bro. Come on.

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101. "the difference between their teams is like 3 games in the standings?"
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you've got some weird narrative built up in your head where Dame is heroically carrying his squad to great heights and Luka's superior squad is floundering.

Both squads are pretty wack - Dallas' #2 missed almost as many games as Portland's #2. The difference is marginal. Luka's stats are nice and without him Dallas would be the worst team in the league.

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102. "RE: the difference between their teams is like 3 games in the standings?"
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Portland is 18-13. They beat Philly twice. They beat the Lakers.
And they beat DALLAS.

Right now Dallas is getting seriously worked by Philly.

Dame is clearly overachieving. While Luka has been underachieving since the beginning. He came in as the MVP favorite. But an argument can be made
that DAME is MVP.

Tatum and Brown lost Smart, Celtics have fallen badly
Bron lost Dennis and AD, and they can’t even sniff a win
Bucks lost Holiday and went into a death Spiral .( they are playing better)

Dame has dealt with losing players better than any other star player.
Portland has yet to fall apart.

Luka is a good player, just not on the level of Dame....not even close.

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104. "It’s not worth the effort you’re putting into this, lol."
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May as well be playing tennis with a brick wall. Even Serena couldn’t win.

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106. "RE: It’s not worth the effort you’re putting into this, lol."
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You dudes are bugging hard. What do the real NBA writers have to say?
Yeah, Dame moved to number 3 on the MVP ladder. He is superiorly
carrying his team.


“From NBA.com writer Michael C. Wright:

The Hulu ad campaign should just air this man’s recent highlights on a loop with Lillard in the background freestyling, “Hulu. Has. Live. Sports.” It’s just flat out ridiculous what he’s doing in shouldering the load in Portland with CJ McCollum and Jusuf Nurkic nursing injuries. Clutch time is definitely Dame time, as he’s 12-3 in those situations, burning the opposition down the stretch, sinking 58.8% from deep in the last five minutes of games separated by five points or fewer. He’s not an All-Star starter, but neither was Russell Westbrook the year he won MVP.

Lillard is currently averaging 29.8 points with 7.9 assists on the season. Only Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James and Philadelphia’s Joel Embiid rank higher than Lillard on the list at the moment.”

Lillard is fucking 12-3 in clutch moments and shooting 58.8 percent from 3 in the
last five minutes of games when the game is separated by 5 points or less...

I had to retype that for your guys because you both are bugging...No one else in the league is touching that, and he is doing that without his major players!

But you dudes want to argue about some inefficient ass white man when this brother
Is playing out his focking mind.






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112. "Me in this post: “Dame should’ve started over Luka.”"
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You didn’t have to repost that, lol. No one’s disputing how great Dame has been.

They’re disputing your assessment that Luka is inefficient. Because he’s not. As explained several times here.

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114. "RE: Me in this post: “Dame should’ve started over Luka.”"
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Career 32 pct from 3 is inefficient. 35 pct from 3 on the season is avg at best.

He shoots 70 pct FT, and in the PO he shoots 65 pct.

Going 6 for 17 against the Sixers last night with 7 TOs is inefficient.


But I’m sure when he hits another lame game winner a month from now
you will be back.

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91. "I was referring to Tim Hardaway "
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who shoots 40 percent from 3.

And Porzingis is a good offensive weapon.

Bottom line Doncic is not in the same area as Lillard and what
he is doing.

Mofos going on hunger strike to support Doncic ...
LoL

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60. "Seems like a majority of the players and teams that played bubble ball"
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have struggled to start the season. There are a bunch of obvious reasons why this is the case.

And I'm pretty sure the Mavs played the first month or two of the season without their second best player. Even MVP's look vulnerable when without their second best guy (see: LeBron James). Not saying Luka is the MVP, but you gotta put these things into perspective, ya know?

  

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70. "dude trying to emulate Shaq work ethnic"
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nahmean?


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62. "zion might end up with 70% FG when this season is over"
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his ability to finish at the rim irrespective of his momentum and body position is almost unbelievable

  

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64. " Bully ball with freakish athleticism. Boy is a problem."
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I like how the Pels are using him this year.

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67. "Zach Lavine is the Dominique Wilkins of SG"
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He is simply a human highlight reel, who gives you nothing else.

No dimes, no defense, and a shit load of TOs. He had 7TOs , 2 dimes,
2 boards in a game that shouldn’t have went to OT against the Wolves.
The worst team in BB.

White had 7 TOs and Lavine had 7 TOs against the Wolves.
14 TOs for just the backcourt.

I’m also trying to be patient with White, but it’s frustrating.
White is basically a shoot first guard as well with zero defense.

Either both make massive improvements fundamentally or they get moved..
No way we keep both players for the long run. I would trade both Lavine and White
for Shai and Dort right now. They play both sides Of the ball.

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69. "LOL...the fuck? Both combined, ain’t worth Shai"
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.

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94. "This is a lazy take."
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I was gonna wait and see what the Bulls did this week against
some playoff teams, but this is such a lazy take I had to answer.

>He is simply a human highlight reel, who gives you nothing
>else.
>
>No dimes, no defense, and a shit load of TOs.

- The Bulls don't need LaVine to be Kawahi Leonard on defense, just serviceable.
- His help defense is much improved.
- He looks less lost on defense when compared to last season.
- 31.PPG. That's what LaVine averaged in February.

Pulled this from my guy @mkhoops:
https://bullshq.com/2021/02/zach-lavine-is-a-max-level-player/

"On the season, LaVine is averaging 28.2 points, while shooting over 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from three,
and 85 percent from the free throw line. The number of players to post those numbers in NBA history?

Three. Those players?
Larry Bird (x3)
Kevin Durant
Stephen Curry."

- LaVine has career numbers in scoring and assists. In fact people that watch the games see that he's facilitating much better this year.
Thad Young got in his ear and told him, "You don't have to take over all the time. Save yourself for the 4Q when we need you."
And he does! The Bulls are 3rd in the league in 4Q points.

- Up until last night against the Wolves, the turnovers the Bulls had had been declining. That's a team issue; they need to take care of the ball better.


>Either both make massive improvements fundamentally or they
>get moved..


I'm on board with paying LaVine for a few reasons:

1. He's not perfect. But this is a guy who has addressed problems in his game and uses the off season to correct them.

2. Half a season under a competent coach has him putting up career numbers. The entire team is listening to Donovan. He challenges them.

3. Outside of Pat Williams and Garrett Temple, this is the exact team from last year, and they're currently the 6th seed.
This is important because the Bulls are trying to make a culture change. Plus...

4. Playoff basketball for White, Carter and Williams I think would be huge for their development. It was for Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah when they battled the Celtics in 2009.

5. He WANTS to be here.

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95. "You keep mentioning offense."
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And career offensive numbers. That has never been a problem!
Stop talking about offense. And it proves my point about him
being Dominique Wilkins of SG

Mike always got the best of Dominique team wise. You know why?
Because mike was also a great defender and facilitator. When Mike faced
other star SG he excelled at controlling them. You saw what happened
when Shai faced Lavine a few weeks ago. Bulls were up by 8 with 50
seconds left, Lavine gave the game way down the stretch.

Here is where Lavine is shit:

- He has the 13th most turnovers per 100 possessions

Facts.

LaVine struggles in several situations: defending spot-up shooters (1.08 PPP, 30th percentile), post-ups (1.15 PPP, 17th percentile), and defending the roll man (1.07 PPP, 37th percentile), though the sample size in those categories isn’t large.

I can post other defensive stats on how the bulls are defensively better when
he isn’t on the floor.

Look, bro. You like him, cool. He wants to be here, cool. Don’t let that cloud your critiquing on what a BB player is supposed to do.

Either he improves his defense, ball protection, and facilitating or we trade him.
Thaddeus Young is our best facilitator and defender and makes key plays to
keep us in games. This should be coming from our guards.

And for the love of god quit falling in love with offensive stats ...now that’s lazy.

And being a 6th seed in the east, where there Bulls are what 15-17, and other
teams have a similar record all the way down to the 13th seed. That just shows how
poor the east is.

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98. "LaVine has changed this season."
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If you don't notice a difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Thad is definitely the most important player but far from the MVP.

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100. "RE: LaVine has changed this season."
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Yeah, we ain’t seeing the same thing. Because he’s TO avg has went
up to 3.9-4.0. Usually player’s TOs go down from their first season. His has
went up.

Like I said, his offensive game has never been a problem. And he is a great offensive
player, but defensively and protecting the ball? Still a huge problem.

And last night proved it, as well as blowing an 8 point lead with 50 seconds to go
against OKC.

He made the all star team, great. His offensive numbers have increased, great

Now stop the silly TOs and get more involved defensively...,We get and got
on Kyrie for the same type of play. No different for Lavine.

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97. "Also, my take on Lavine doesn’t mean I don’t like him."
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Or that I’m not rooting for him.

I’m simply saying that he needs to cut out TOs and focus
on the defensive end. That is where we are getting killed.

What good is it to score 30 points on one end and give up
close to 40 on the other?

The greatest player ever played SG for the bulls and came out
of college being great on both ends....

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71. "is Utah the best team in the NBA?"
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72. "is it time for Brad Stevens to go?"
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73. "Barring a huge turnaround, he's likely gone after the season at least"
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As of now? I don't really know if it's the players not responding to him anymore or bad personnel decisions by the front office. I know the team CEO just blamed Kyrie's departure on their struggles, and I don't really think that holds water.

I also don't know if the team is high on any of its assistant coaches and thinks they're ready for full-time gigs. I'd have a hard time wrapping my brain around Jerome Allen as the coach of the Celtics, but that has more to do with me being a Penn alum.

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74. "nah this is Ainge's mess. Stevens will be collateral damage though"
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75. "Is this season a Stevens issue or an Ainge issue?"
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I definitely think the Stevens 'golden child' aura has worn off, but the celts roster is not one that screams finals contender either.

Mostly I hate Ainge and want him to get blamed more than he does.

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76. "It’s Ainge"
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Stevens definitely needs to fix some things (there’s no reason for the team to be THIS bad) and he may even end up taking the fall for this season, but this is Ainge’s fault. Besides drafting Pritchard he didn’t do a single thing right this past offseason.

  

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79. "I agree you should still be over .500 with Jayson Tatum & Jaylen Brown"
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81. "Jayson Tatum had COVID and was out of grip of game because of it."
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84. "Sure, but I don't think Stevens should be on the hot seat yet"
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And let's be honest, people are being a bit reactionary here. The whole East is a mess rn besides the Sixers. If Boston rolls off 2 good weeks they're back in the top 4.

  

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86. "exactly and every other team in the East has had the same issues..."
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from COVID to injuries, it has appeared a times that this team has just laid down even when almost everyone was available

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89. "okay, so fire every coach in the East then?"
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>from COVID to injuries, it has appeared a times that this
>team has just laid down even when almost everyone was
>available

we agree on why Stevens should be criticized, but you haven't explained why that criticism translates to why he should be canned. I simply don't think it's risen to that level yet. Maybe I'll feel differently at the end of the season, maybe not. And again, most of the problems here are Ainge's fuck-ups, not Brad's.

  

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90. "every other coach is not in their 7th season under .500 w/ 2 All-Stars"
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92. "I could see your point if they missed the playoffs last year or somethin..."
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And this was a continuation of .500ish disappointment. As it stands, we’re still early into an extremely weird season, so this take is pretty reactionary. Like I said, they could easily rattle off a couple good weeks and be back in the mix. Too early to consider canning Brad.

  

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119. "wait the bar is playoffs?? That's it? Oh to be white in the NBA"
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The C's have consistently under achieved and disappointed for years at this point.


Fire both Ainge and wonder boy.


Oh wait, its Boston. Never mind.

  

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128. "When your stars were 22 and 23 and you made the ECF?"
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I'd say that's clearing most reasonable bars.

I'm a Brad Stevens skeptic, and even I don't think firing him one year after the ECF during a COVID/injury ravaged season makes sense.

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135. "Of course not, and you’re missing a bunch of context"
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I’m saying after all the ECF appearances if he had a FULL season that was a major disappointment (i.e. missing out on the playoffs or even being the 7th or 8th seed) that would be just cause for being on the hot seat and maybe getting canned. Being under .500 early in a season with a ton of injuries, COVID, and Ainge making terrible moves is not. Of course I’d like to see some more progress, but throwing the guy out now is a huge overreaction. What would firing him midseason even accomplish? Like I said, come back to me at the end of the season and maybe it’s a different story.

>
>The C's have consistently under achieved and disappointed for
>years at this point.

Have they? Last year we probably shoulda beat the Heat, I’ll give you that, but what season did we truly have a finals roster? We haven’t. Everyone seems to have forgot, but Tatum and Brown just hit their stride last year and haven’t even peaked yet. Before last year there were a lot of questions about them, especially Jaylen. Now they’re both top 20 talents in the league, but you still need better pieces around them than what they have.

>
>Fire both Ainge and wonder boy.
>
>
>Oh wait, its Boston. Never mind.

I’ve already explained a million times why I believe it’s Ainge’s fault so I’m not gonna belabor the point. I’ll just say that this board acting like Brad hasn’t done shit is ludicrous. Like I said, the ECF is not the end goal and we gotta make progress, but Ainge didn’t put us in a position to make that progress this season. Brad can only do so much with this roster. To your point, sadly, Ainge probably has this job locked in for life. I wish that weren’t the case.

  

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156. "and we forget only black coaches get fired with winning records"
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157. "RE: and we forget only black coaches get fired with winning records"
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you're right about the double standard, but equity would be black coaches getting a longer leash, not white coaches getting a shorter leash. if a black coach went to the ECF 3 times in the last 4 years and then got fired after a slow start during a COVID/injury-riddled season, it would be slammed as an overreaction.

also lol @ you agreeing that it's too early to make a judgment in reply 82, but yet you keep debating the same point 2 days later?

  

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80. "Let’s slow down here for a moment."
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Keep in mind. Celtics are playing without Marcus Smart their best
defensive player. That makes a difference

And when he was playing, Kemba and Tatum were out.

So before we come to a definitive conclusion about the Cs, the season
has to play out with everyone healthy.

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82. "I agree..."
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>Keep in mind. Celtics are playing without Marcus Smart their
>best
>defensive player. That makes a difference
>
>And when he was playing, Kemba and Tatum were out.
>
>So before we come to a definitive conclusion about the Cs, the
>season
>has to play out with everyone healthy.
>

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83. "fair. they've been hit w/bad luck and have time to right the ship"
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still f**k Danny Ainge.

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103. "Damien LIllard moves up number 3 on the MVP ladder"
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He is currently my MVP

NBA.Com:

From NBA.com writer Michael C. Wright:

The Hulu ad campaign should just air this man’s recent highlights on a loop with Lillard in the background freestyling, “Hulu. Has. Live. Sports.” It’s just flat out ridiculous what he’s doing in shouldering the load in Portland with CJ McCollum and Jusuf Nurkic nursing injuries. Clutch time is definitely Dame time, as he’s 12-3 in those situations, burning the opposition down the stretch, sinking 58.8% from deep in the last five minutes of games separated by five points or fewer. He’s not an All-Star starter, but neither was Russell Westbrook the year he won MVP.

Lillard is currently averaging 29.8 points with 7.9 assists on the season. Only Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James and Philadelphia’s Joel Embiid rank higher than Lillard on the list at the moment.

Diamond D MVP

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105. "just glad to see the Cavs winning games after that bullshit"
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far from a finished product but I do believe in Sexland + Allen for the future.

Windler gotta get more time. Has a little streak of not missing from 3. Plays good defense but has a Harrison Barnes-esque handle.

Wade doing nice filling in at PF.

Against the Rockets they couldn't miss for a few minutes.

Still need a backup PG of the "Chris Paul" mentality (not necessarily skill level).

I want to focus on Darius Garland.
His defense is sub-optimal.
Has a habit of getting loose with the ball leading to turnovers.
His passing at times is PHENOMENAL.
And his shooting? I see some diet-Curryism in his game. 3 straight possessions for 9 points because the Rockets defense doubted his ability to step back and just shoot it.

I need to see more.


Priority one in the draft is getting the best wing available. if Cavs picking 5 (again) they just might do that.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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110. "The “Sexland” backcourt is too small, opposing guards lick their cho..."
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at the thought of facing a 6 foot backcourt, they can’t play both those guys together and be a competitive NBA team.

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159. "You sound like some of those cranks on the other forum."
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Guess what? They compete, when they get good play from the forwards. And due to injury that's the reason why they've taken so many Ls.

Also, a backup PG is sorely needed. See below.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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107. "Dallas just got smacked around by the Sixers"
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Simmons locked Luka up. Held that dude to 19 points and 7 TOs

But Portland beat the Sixers twice and Dame dropped 30 on Simmons
with no McCollum/Nurkic/Collins

But mofos in here talking about Luka on the same level as Dame....

Stop hyping this weak ass basketball player. And show MVp Lillard love.


Also, Terry Rozier subliminally dissed Luka on J and J when they asked him
who is the toughest PG to guard in the NBA. ..BTW, he said Steph was the
hardest.

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108. "If I was a 6ers fan, I would be inclined to call Luka a fraud"
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based on his performances vs the 6ers

...oh wait, I am a 6ers fan...

Luka is a stat padding turd that won’t amount to anything.

LOL

Seriously though...Ben owns dude

He hasn’t had a game vs us in 3 years.

I’ve seen him go off because I watch a lot of bball

I know how talented he is

But he never shows out vs Ben.

IRT Dame, exactly.

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111. "simmons locked luka up even worse than that."
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https://twitter.com/Schragz/status/1365302495568924675
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Luka Doncic when guarded by Ben Simmons last night

6 pts

3/7 fg

0/3 3-pt

4 turns

Per http://nba.com
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ben is gonna be a menace on other teams stars in the playoffs. his d alone is gonna change the entire complexion of some series (pause).

i used to clown dude for the shooting. but the way hes taken pride in dominating the defensive matchups against the leagues best players has completely made a fan out of me.

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113. "Ben is a Top 3 defender in the league, minimum."
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He was last season too.

That’s why all those people hoping for a trade were nuts.

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115. "RE: Ben is a Top 3 defender in the league, minimum."
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INEFFICIENT BALLER.

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116. "Totally inefficient, unless you go by stats and stuff."
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121. "RE: Totally inefficient, unless you go by stats and stuff."
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Yeah stats and stuff

70pct from the line AS A GUARD. It drops to 65pct in the PO.
There are some centers who shoot better than him from the line.
There are some centers who shoot better than him from 3.

32 pct 3pt career avg....35 pct on the season.

INEFFICIENT BALLER SPECIAL.

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126. "Dude lives in the Fake News world. Just ignore him."
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I replied to him too much in this post as it is. Every time I try to reach him with countless stats, and he replies with 1-2 cherrypicked stats, I remember, "Oh yeah, that's why I shouldn't bother."

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132. "It was a welcome distraction to work yesterday"
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sometimes its cathartic to yell into the ether.

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134. "lol, totally fair"
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It's when I need to get shit done and I find myself typing a reply filled with stats and facts that I start to think, "... what the fuck am I doing here?" lol

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117. "Honestly forgot...he had knee surgery on the break before the bubble"
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last year

BB actually put him off the ball and had Shake running PG in the bubble

i.e. he's just now looking completely healthy IMO

The form he's been in over the last 2 weeks is what I expected him to look like at the start of the season

Doc is even just now letting him play C when Jo is off the floor

I was concerned when Morey joined the team, because I know he likes to make moves

Really happy that we kept our hand.

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118. "dudes on here getting defensive over Luka will never not"
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be weird to me.

Like...everyone on here should have at least some idea or awareness of white privilege. I would hope.

This isn't hard.

Luka is nice, but there is absolutely no question he is being graded on a curve and the league/media are very eager to anoint him.


He simply is not top tier, not on Dame's level, and not an MVP candidate.


  

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120. "He's like NBA JJ Watt - he's real nice, but gets outsized love for sure"
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He shouldn't be getting LeBron calls from the refs either. I got offended when people were saying he was more cerebral than James Harden for making a couple of the exact same passes that Harden been making for a decade.

Fuck him and JJ Watt as a general rule. Still he's easily an all-star.

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123. "he is putting up 29 8 and 9 in his 3rd year in games that count"
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Any player in their 3rd year putting up those numbers would be getting anointed especially if they showed out in the prior year's playoffs.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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127. "And him being white *does matter* for the media coverage."
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No one is denying that. He's being covered *more* because he's white. And he shouldn't be. And Dame should've started over him in the NBA All-Star game.

But the pendulum has swung too far the other way for some people. They pretend a guy turning 22 averaging a near triple double in his third NBA season should be dismissed as empty stats or not that impressive. And they pretend he wouldn't easily be in the top ten of players teams would start a franchise with in 2021.

Like, it's possible to simultaneously say "he's overhyped" and "he's incredibly good" in the same sentence. Both things are true. You don't need to dismiss one to claim the other.

But again, this is a big reason why this board is going to shit.

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131. "i don't know..media coverage and all star starters arent really that imp..."
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and have absolutely nothing to do with how good someone actually is so those arguments don't move me.

Every year the nba is hyping someone as the next #1 or mvp favorite...the last few years its been Giannis and Kahwi prior to him. Soon its gonna be Zion. But who really cares. The individual + team success is all that really matters.

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133. "But those things *do* make emotional impact."
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Like, if I think Dame is a Top 3 MVP candidate this year (I do), and he doesn't start, then I start looking for who shouldn't be starting. I think we can all agree that Luka is the weakest of the arguments for starting of the five starters in the west... so then you compound that with seeing him on TV all the time? It just leads to hate.

This happened with Zion during his college season. He was (correctly) anointed, but then they started talking about Zion during literally every single game-- including all the ones Duke didn't play. So a lot of people I saw online started not liking Zion-- not because of Zion, but because of the coverage.

I agree that it shouldn't hurt our ability to say "hey, this guy's insanely fucking good," but it does put blinders on a lot of otherwise logical people sometimes. (Not that that's necessarily what's happening to everyone in this thread. I just mean in general.)

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137. "I suppose. But i look at luka, his numbers, his games and said he's amaz..."
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If someones responds about gype and not being mvp im looking at em sideways
.

Plus this dude is the mvp of my ws squad so fuck all the haters lmao

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138. "lmao, you're also not immune to emotional attachment!"
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>Plus this dude is the mvp of my ws squad so fuck all the
>haters lmao

No, I agree, anyone who watches dude play and thinks he's inefficient should be immediately dismissed.

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143. "Lol true and oh not to mention"
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With this shortened covid ass season, he could very well be in the mvp conversation when the season is over. His numbers are there...dallas just needs to climb the standings.

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140. "RE: this board is going to shit"
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all this board needs is a mute feature. can you imagine posting about a modern hip hop album in the lesson and *not* having to deal with harassment and negativity from the geriatric gatekeeper garrison? mista_k5 could post his weekly new music thread in the music discussion forum instead of the general discussion forum!

  

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144. "this board *is* shit, posts stay on the first page for 2 weeks..."
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half the time I just say shit to try to get a rise out of people

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148. "you don't say 🤔"
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146. "A mute feature would solve SO MUCH."
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Reeq
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136. "fam we gotta draw up battle lines on luka & see where everybody stands."
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cuz this shit could get messy from this year on and niggas gonna need to be on tape with their position.

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109. "The end of that Wiz / Nuggets game is why I barely watch the league now."
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Ridiculous.

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bearfield
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124. "please expand on this"
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allStah
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125. "last possession by the Nuggets"
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Down by 2

They had a 4 on 1 break, and instead of going
to the basket for the easy score to tie the game,
all 4 players stood behind the arc and Camp took
a bad 3 point shot.

Game over.

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bearfield
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129. "thanks beezo 🙄"
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i watched the play happen live. i want beezo's take on why they rarely watch nba games because of plays like that

  

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bearfield
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130. "."
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Fri Feb-26-21 03:20 PM by bearfield

  

          

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139. "lol."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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142. "Lol. Poor bball iq and lack of effort nightly is killin the game."
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I’ll leave it there.
I watch but I’m not setting any reminders to catch a game.

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145. "I agree, the league overall is younger and while the players are more..."
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skilled the experience is just not there.

You got guys going from high school to 1 year of college to being starters in the league in a year or 2.

Guys used to have to the scrap their first couple of years in college just to see the court in year 3 or 4. Then once they got to the league they had to earn their court time.

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bearfield
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149. "i think that was just an egregiously bad play"
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exacerbated by the sports news cycle and social. if this play happens 10 years ago no one knows or cares about it unless it makes shaqtin a fool. i see high effort every night with all these close games and giant comebacks. it seems short-sighted to damn the entire league because of 4 players all making a similar poor decision at the same time

  

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ThaTruth
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154. "I also thought it was suspect that Murray chose to clown his teammates....."
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on twitter... https://twitter.com/BeMore27/status/1365169672677584901/photo/1

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blackfoot_female
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158. "I'm glad he did. everyone should be called out for that dumb shit"
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ThaTruth
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141. "Another example of analytics and “advanced stats” ruining basketball..."
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Frank Longo
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147. "Analytics would say go for a wide open two."
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Especially when you’re the favored team in overtime.

That’s why everyone in sports media who favors analytics is sharing this clip. Forcing 3s when 3s aren’t needed is the opposite of analytics.

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150. "Soon as someone goes Sanaa Lathan 1-0 break pullup 3, I’m done"
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ThaTruth
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151. "Maria Taylor tho"
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152. "schroeder is the battery. interesting"
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ThaTruth
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153. "definitely"
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155. "Green with the triple-double vs the very same hornets he lost to"
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with that (shitty) reffing two tech calls at the end of their last matchup: 11 pts, 19 ast, 12 reb.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401267671

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30972320/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-calls-big-night-making-right-recent-meltdown

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Dr Claw
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160. "LOL @ Ben shooting that 3 at the end of the game"
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the Sixers got damn near nothing from anyone not named Embiid and Simmons. Seth was bricking like shit. Every now and then Milton or Scott would do something.

And the officiating was some bullshit. Yet a W for the Cavs.

Cavs need a backup PG. Not a guard, but a PG. Usually that would be Dellavedova, but due to his concussions who knows if he plays at all this season. Garland was playing way more minutes than he needed to do, and had a real shitty stretch in the third (a quarter were they went 6 for 22 from the field, after coming into the half 10 points up on Philly). But he rebounded greatly in the 4th.

Sexton, if anything is consistent. 25+ efficient points.

Jarrett Allen was the steal of the year.

Dean Wade and Windler had quality minutes.

Okoro is better than people think he is. This dude does so many little things that will add up to good things once the Cavs sort out their wing situation. This mofo took a charge from Embiid. For an NBA rookie, that's balls. Watch this guy.

Him fouling out was bullshit on top of bullshit.

So many times I miss KPJ being on this roster.


As for the Sixers:

Embiid is great (and took/made some big 3s late in the game). But the foul hunting. This James Harden shit...

The thing that pisses me off as an observer of Ben Simmons.
People are calling him a tall Draymond.

And y'all know how I feel about ol' Donkeylips. But guess what, a "Draymond" is good for 90% of NBA teams playing in the modern style. Cavs have theirs in Larry Nance Jr.

So if the Sixers have a "Draymond" in Ben Simmons?! GOOD. That means just surround him and Joel with shooters. Sixers have done that, but they weren't really at all consistent in that last game.

But here's the rip. Ben's 3 point shooting form is MILES ahead of Bray-mond. I really fell out laughing watching him do that at the end of the game. Doc gotta figure out a way to get him in that position every now and then.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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