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allStah
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"On ESPN right now 30 for 30: Tarahumara "
Tue Dec-15-20 08:19 PM by allStah

          

When I was s serious runner, which seems like eons ago , the book on the Tarahumara blew my mind.

A group of indigenous Mexicans who live high up in the mountains, and their way of life is running. They run to deliver mail, to travel,etc, and they are basically the greatest group of ultra distance runners in the world.

Of course their history and story was/is being exploited by Americans, and Nike’s Hurache’s were based on the special shoes that the group makes for themselves, but it is a great story.

Check it out.

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Is this the same group
Dec 16th 2020
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RE: Is this the same group
Dec 16th 2020
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      I think they do eat chia seeds
Dec 17th 2020
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      I’m not saying they don’t.
Dec 17th 2020
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           Don't have a source off hand
Dec 18th 2020
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      I've got family at high altitude
Dec 17th 2020
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      They're not "bascially Aztecs"
Dec 17th 2020
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           Correct they are not basically Aztec
Dec 17th 2020
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shout out to the Nike Terra Humara.
Dec 16th 2020
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Spot on.
Dec 16th 2020
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      i mean, not only that but it was specifically an ACG...
Dec 16th 2020
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           Yeah,man. It’s a good documentary in general.
Dec 16th 2020
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more than Kenyans?
Dec 17th 2020
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Kenyan and Ethiopians are not ULTRA distance runners
Dec 17th 2020
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fif
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1. "Is this the same group"
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That runs all day on a handful of chia seeds and some water? Makes me think of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_running_hypothesis

Will try to check out the 30 30

  

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3. "RE: Is this the same group"
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Different group. They are basically Aztecs who escaped Spanish rulership in Mexico by fleeing to higher regions. They used long distance walking and running as way of travel, and that morphed into them being super human distance runner. Also, since they lived in a higher altitude, they developed more red blood cells in order to take in enough oxygen to breathe... more red blood cells, the more oxygen one will have....this is why cheating endurance athletes blood dope or take in EPO.

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8. "I think they do eat chia seeds"
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https://www.womensrunning.com/health/tarahumara-people-chia-seeds/

"She informed me that they eat little to no meat, and it’s reserved only for special occasions. They drink chia seeds in “chia fresca,” or iskiate, as I remembered from Born to Run, and they add them to corn tortillas that they make fresh and cook over an open fire."

Sounds like they're getting some dough exporting them these days which is, probably, good. Not nike dollars, but dated a few health nut girls who keep them in the kitchen

  

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allStah
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12. "I’m not saying they don’t."
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Thu Dec-17-20 07:37 PM by allStah

          

But your wording was as if they just eat a handful of seeds and drink water. They do consume them. But their diet consists mostly of corn and beans, and they make and drink a lot of corn beer.

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14. "Don't have a source off hand"
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But I think I remember reading chia seeds were a sort of survival crop when times were lean. I think they also traditionally ate peyote. Not sure if while running but some people swear LSD helps them run better.

  

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10. "I've got family at high altitude"
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Even after a week of running around in the mountains there had me coming back to sea level feeling performance enhanced as hell. Some indications high altitude is good for aging people in some ways. Which is cool since my parents are at 6k
Hope it mitigates all that cold and snow

  

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11. "They're not "bascially Aztecs""
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They're their own group in the same way that Ojibwe people are not "basically Cherokee"

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13. "Correct they are not basically Aztec"
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However, they speak Rarámuri, which is an Uto-Aztecan language.

They actually descend from Mongollon culture, which is a Native American based culture.

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2. "shout out to the Nike Terra Humara. "
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you think Nike ever broke any of these indigenous runners off w/ product or money?

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4. "Spot on."
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Now you see where Nike got all those concepts and names from.

And nope I don’t think nike compensated them ....corporate exploitation.

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5. "i mean, not only that but it was specifically an ACG..."
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outdoor/trail running shoe.

interesting though i had never heard of the folks who spawned the name.

i'm too fat to be running, but i'll have to check this doc out.

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6. "Yeah,man. It’s a good documentary in general."
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Just the history of it all, and how those natives evolved and live based on their environmental condition.

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7. "more than Kenyans?"
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>they are basically the
>greatest group of ultra distance runners in the world.

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9. "Kenyan and Ethiopians are not ULTRA distance runners "
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Thu Dec-17-20 02:51 PM by allStah

          

They don’t run for HOURS and DAYS.

Eastern Africans are top distance runners, and even though its their main sport. It’s not a way of life for their culture. Eastern African runners get selected or run to feed their families, and they don’t have 80 and 90 year older runners

With the Tarahumara the sport and money came later. It’s their way of life and most of the culture does it. It’s a tradition that has nothing to do with money.

Eastern Africans retire in their 40s, get fat, and raise their families and look after their businesses. They never run again after their prime.

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