3. "definitely didn't see that coming, I like Nash but a black former player..." In response to Reply # 0
is not walking into a job like that with almost no experience.
I wonder who his assistants will be. He was probably hoping Houston lost so D'Antoni would be fired lol. A first time head coach usually gets a strong former head coach as his lead assistant.
27. "Was waiting for this truth-minus-fact comment and of course you made it" In response to Reply # 3
I didn't have to wait long. It's not even really truth minus fact, it's just false. Jason Kidd and Mark Jackson both went straight to NBA head coach jobs. Nash actually has more space between his playing career and coaching career than they did, and in that time he was a coach (special assistant with Dubs) and a GM (was Canadian National Team GM for seven years).
The hire makes perfect sense. Like you said, KD and Kyrie didn't come to play for Kenny Atkinson. Nash is KD's guy and he is exactly the type of mentor Kyrie can use as he tries to transition/take the next step.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
36. "^^^Why the FUCK is this so difficult to understand!?!?!?" In response to Reply # 33
>in their prime that were expected to contend right away? > >No they got young talent they had to develop then get fired >and watch a white coach come in and get most of the credit.
When do black coaches get hired in this type of situation!?!?
41. "The Nets had just won 49 games and had a lot of big names" In response to Reply # 36
Now, the fact that those big names were washed or nearly washed is another story, but they were ambitious at the time and successful, too.
And if you want to say that the situation wasn't promising because the players were too old, well, what about Jackson? No, they hadn't won many games yet but they drafted Steph and Klay, they hired Bob Myers, etc. They were getting ambitious and he was their guy.
To say neither of those were good gigs is absurd. And to hoist up this Nets gig like he got hired to coach the Jordan Bulls is also bullshit. We have no idea how good KD will be next year and Kyrie is not exactly on the upswing. To me all of these are slightly above average gigs on the surface, just for different reasons.
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7. "I don't think he has any" In response to Reply # 6
that was my next thought after Kyrie. Lil funny for the white guy with no experience to get a HC gig and the Black interim HC made lead asst or whatever the fuck the title is
>that was my next thought after Kyrie. Lil funny for the white >guy with no experience to get a HC gig and the Black interim >HC made lead asst or whatever the fuck the title is
>that was my next thought after Kyrie. Lil funny for the white >guy with no experience to get a HC gig and the Black interim >HC made lead asst or whatever the fuck the title is
20. "Fisher had no experience when he got the Knicks gig" In response to Reply # 10
People bringing up experience like it's means something in today's NBA. All those guys you mentioned have burned bridges along the way. Nash has a golden reputation in the game of basketball. Bottom line, Kd/kyrie have a guy they respect.
There's a modern history of retired guards getting head coaching jobs without stints as assistant coaches, including Doc Rivers (Magic), Isiah Thomas (Pacers), Mark Jackson and Steve Kerr (Warriors) and Jason Kidd (Nets).
Idk if this makes it better but it's still sittin kinda funny
29. "GS was a great job for both Jackson and Kerr." In response to Reply # 19 Thu Sep-03-20 02:52 PM by ConcreteCharlie
Particularly Kerr.
LMAO @ the goalpost moving in the face of evidence here. Nash is a two-time MVP and he leveled up based on prep, conditioning and court sense. Nobody was confusing him with Tom Chambers or Zion Williamson out there.
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42. "oh fuck you, kidd was also superbly conditioned and smart" In response to Reply # 37
you know that and now you're just trying to make a fucking scene.
the dubs were a 23-win team or something, that's true. the nets, when they hired kidd, were a 49-win team, which they aren't now. funny how you're overlooking that. and to consider the dubs a 23-win team and nothing else is disingenuous AF. they were very much on the upswing, even if no one knew just how high that swing would reach yet.
this refusal to recognize any sort of progress or leveling of the field until it's completely level is counterproductive. and of course you are "OK" with this because it's a perfectly legitimate hire and no different than the kidd hire in any way.
this topic is frustrating for sure but it's comical how it brings out irrational thoughts, just like years back when people accused the hornets of racism in their hires even though they hired a nearly uninterrupted string of black coaches.
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30. "ehhhh, i don't think that would have worked here" In response to Reply # 25
i feel bad for atkinson and hope he gets a good job but if they didn't make the move than KD and Kyrie would have moped through their entire contracts. you sign fragile MFs, you gotta react accordingly. this isn't lebron and shaq we are talking about, it's two of the most sensitive stars around. they made a good hire here. i am also happy they left mcmillan on the market because i want him in philly. but the ownership is so fucking dumb that they probably won't even pursue him.
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47. "Should be a fun season in Brooklyn all around." In response to Reply # 46
Gotta wonder; how short of a leash will Nash get since D'Antoni is on that bench?
As much as I think he's a joke of a head coach, D'Antoni does have 10+ years of legitimate head coaching experience.
Poor Jacque Vaughn has to suck up any discomfort and work for a dude with no head coaching experience that gets gifted Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving as players.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
49. "Dude hired offensive and defensive coordinators" In response to Reply # 44
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
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55. "Monster supporting cast." In response to Reply # 44
D'Antoni's always been best suited as an offensive coordinator type coach anyway, so that's a perfect fit. Buncha other good names too. If Durant and Kyrie are healthy, that team could be a looooot of fun.
62. "no way. he was always top 10 in MPG prior to this injury" In response to Reply # 58 Mon Apr-26-21 05:16 PM by bearfield
played/started 92% of available games through 2019-20 season and that's including an off 2011-12 season where he only played 62 games. outside of bron and pj tucker he was the most dependable starter in the league. i'm fairly certain that he was top 3 in the league in MPG this season before the injury. he's a gamer and a hooper and he wants to be on the court whenever possible. he's not faking or exaggerating this injury and i think it's actually way more serious than BKN are saying it is. i think it's more likely that he's not coming back until next season
63. "You’re right , this is a man who goes hard on and off the court " In response to Reply # 62
I should put more respect on beards name
>played/started 92% of available games through 2019-20 season >and that's including an off 2011-12 season where he only >played 62 games. outside of bron and pj tucker he was the >most dependable starter in the league. i'm fairly certain >that he was top 3 in the league in MPG this season before the >injury. he's a gamer and a hooper and he wants to be on the >court whenever possible. he's not faking or exaggerating this >injury and i think it's actually way more serious than BKN are >saying it is. i think it's more likely that he's not coming >back until next season
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
65. "I forgot Spencer Dinwiddie is still on this team...." In response to Reply # 0
he was playing at an extremely high level before the partial acl tear. I wonder what the Nets long term plans are for him..they were fielding trade offers before but IDK now
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