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Walleye
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"Poll question: This MLB season going to start? Finish? Should we talk about it?"


          

Gonna just gesture at the past six months in defense of the idea that planning and organizing during a fluid situation kind of feels like a waste of time. On the other hand, what's time for besides wasting?

MLB is going to start in a week and a half. Unless somebody important decides to pay attention to the combination of red flags and administrative incompetence that's making their pretty barebones "Summer Camp" ramp-up look like a Mars expedition, logistically. It's hard to get that excited about something that seems likely to fall apart, but I cheer for a team that may be pretty good and which I actually got to see during spring training this year.

So draw me your feelings on the baseball season.

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we may not see any major team sports in 2020 on any level
Jul 09th 2020
1
Barring something drastic, NBA will be back in two weeks
Jul 12th 2020
21
I thought MLB missed an opportunity this summer
Jul 09th 2020
2
it could if our society took the virus seriously lol
Jul 09th 2020
3
      MLB floated the bubble idea briefly
Jul 09th 2020
4
           NBA needs to get the fuck outta there
Jul 09th 2020
5
They reason the Asian baseball leagues have been fine
Jul 09th 2020
6
Yeah, we were “supposed” to be doing ok by now
Jul 09th 2020
7
Is this Wave 1.5?
Jul 09th 2020
10
      That 2020 inauguration seems so far away
Jul 09th 2020
13
KBO is really fun too
Jul 09th 2020
8
Same. I watch 2-3 games a week and it’s pretty enjoyable.
Jul 09th 2020
9
      I’m watching every single MLB and NBA game that’s on
Jul 09th 2020
14
mls already started
Jul 09th 2020
11
I'm skeptical and sad
Jul 09th 2020
12
Buster Posey opts out
Jul 10th 2020
15
That taxonomy seems proportioned correctly
Jul 10th 2020
16
      RE: That taxonomy seems proportioned correctly
Jul 10th 2020
17
Aroldis Chapman tests positive...
Jul 11th 2020
18
He tried to kill his girlfriend though so oh well
Jul 12th 2020
19
That wasn’t posted as a get well soon message
Jul 12th 2020
22
Sounds like a couple relievers on the Nationals too
Jul 14th 2020
25
      some of these staffs are going to be scraping...
Jul 14th 2020
26
baseball is the easiest sport to bring back
Jul 12th 2020
20
the only problem is they live in the United States
Jul 12th 2020
23
      Uh huh
Jul 12th 2020
24
Jeff Passan reports that Juan Soto has Covid
Jul 23rd 2020
27
just saw that...
Jul 23rd 2020
28

ThaTruth
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1. "we may not see any major team sports in 2020 on any level"
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21. "Barring something drastic, NBA will be back in two weeks"
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2. "I thought MLB missed an opportunity this summer"
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now I realize that no sport can really plan around the complete non-response that the US Government enacted towards the pandemic.

fuck all the owners though. they love their stadium tax breaks and exponential valuation growth, but now it's on the players, employees and fans to deal with their revenue losses. we aren't shareholders -- fuck you. all of you.

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3. "it could if our society took the virus seriously lol"
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We are a fucking joke right now with the amount of people who think they will be fine. Meanwhile Golbert still cant smell shit properly. Why are people training in Florida. Get the fuck out of there. Have people commit to a bubble or dont play at all.


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Walleye
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4. "MLB floated the bubble idea briefly"
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The suggested spots for a bubble league were Spring Training complexes, which makes a lot of sense to reduce travel time and would probably be more convenient to the players because a lot of them already have housing in the area of their ST facility.

But, to your exact point, Florida and Arizona are like two of the worst places in the world to be right now. Fucking oops.

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5. "NBA needs to get the fuck outta there"
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6. "They reason the Asian baseball leagues have been fine"
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Is those countries are doing fine. This country is fucked, so our sports leagues will be too.

On the plus side, they’re not trying to run everything in Florida like NBA or MLS. Florida is a mess.

On the minus side, WAY too much travel. There’s just too many variables here.

I think they get started but halt things within a few weeks. Same with NBA and MLS. Actually Florida is so messed up I’m not convinced those even start.

  

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7. "Yeah, we were “supposed” to be doing ok by now"
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Before a likely “second wave” in late fall. If that was the case, these seasons would probably go fine.

But we never even got past the first wave because half the country didn’t participate and the leadership is nonexistent. What a ridiculous shitshow.

  

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10. "Is this Wave 1.5?"
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Cause there was a dip, but not a flattening of the curve... but it’s also worse than it was before, so it’s sorta a second wave???

God we’re so fucked.

  

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13. "That 2020 inauguration seems so far away"
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Can’t even imagine how screwed we’ll be by that point.

  

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Walleye
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8. "KBO is really fun too"
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I love baseball, but not so much that I want people to die. Or get sick or even durably uncomfortable because baseball should be fun. This feels like a pretty normal position to take about a game and therefore we should really only have it when and where it's absolutely safe.

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9. "Same. I watch 2-3 games a week and it’s pretty enjoyable."
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Hoping my beloved Kiwoom Heroes can keep the momentum going.

>I love baseball, but not so much that I want people to die.
>Or get sick or even durably uncomfortable because baseball
>should be fun. This feels like a pretty normal position to
>take about a game and therefore we should really only have it
>when and where it's absolutely safe.

Right. I would LOVE to watch some baseball and basketball, but this feels like watching a car wreck in slow motion.

  

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14. "I’m watching every single MLB and NBA game that’s on"
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if it happens. Even if I know it’s a bad idea, and kinda think they should call it off. Still, I’m watching. I’m watching and loving TBT too.

November-December when there’s no sports of any kind, it’s dark at 4:30, the weather is shitty, and the second wave of COVID is really hitting is going to be so fucked. It’ll make last March-April look like a good time. I’m enjoying the things that I like while I can.

  

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11. "mls already started "
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12. "I'm skeptical and sad"
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I don't think it should start. At this point, I think it probably will, but I don't expect it to finish.

I think Sean Doolittle summed it up with, "Sports are like a reward for a functioning society." I don't think that's where we're at. We haven't earned this. It's dessert before dinner and I'm mostly just hoping that nobody is going to die.

  

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15. "Buster Posey opts out"
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Feels relatively significant because 10 years into it, he's on a HOF path and still has another year with an option. Had a down 2019, but I feel like there's gas in the tank especially if he fades to a C/1B/DH hybrid. I think the current list is:

Welington Castillo
Ian Desmond
Felix Hernandez
Mike Leake
Nick Markakis
Hector Noesi
Buster Posey
David Price
Joe Ross
Tyson Ross
Ryan Zimmerman

There are basically two categories here:

Tyson Ross didn't have a job with a team to opt out of. I think American baseball was in the process of opting out on Hector Noesi in general. Welington Castillo was probably looking at taxi squad catcher until/unless somebody got hurt.

Price, Desmond, Posey, Markakis, Hernandez, and Zimmerman are all mid-30s with distinguished marks having made 9 figures and in the twilight of their careers. Mike Leake is similar in age but a cut below in terms of esteem and earnings.

But I believe that Joe Ross so far is the only player under team control and in his 20s, seemingly with more to play for trying to play a "full" season after coming back from injury and having "only" made a few million on the cusp of arbitration.

  

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16. "That taxonomy seems proportioned correctly"
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>Tyson Ross didn't have a job with a team to opt out of. I
>think American baseball was in the process of opting out on
>Hector Noesi in general. Welington Castillo was probably
>looking at taxi squad catcher until/unless somebody got hurt.

Have to wonder if these guys aren't kicking themselves for not being more open to a deal with a Korean or a Japanese team. Safer situation that's probably more congruent with their skillset but in an abbreviated and weird season, probably wouldn't cover them with any kind of "couldn't get an MLB deal" stigma, to the degree such a thing exists.

>Price, Desmond, Posey, Markakis, Hernandez, and Zimmerman are
>all mid-30s with distinguished marks having made 9 figures and
>in the twilight of their careers. Mike Leake is similar in age
>but a cut below in terms of esteem and earnings.

Easily the most relatable set of decisions. Bunch of dudes with nothing left to prove shrugging and saying they'll catch the next wave, unless they retire first. It's true that Leake's lifetime earnings, but he's still on that silly contract St. Louis gave him, right? So it kind of looks the same if you squint.

Unrelated, I'm kind of shocked that he never really imploded. Never really rose to anything beyond "nearly adequate" like that contract imagined, but I really expected there to be a year where he just got, like, destroyed. Though I guess you don't leave pitchers in to get destroyed for a full workload anymore unless you're the team that paid them like a solid mid-rotation workhorse, so maybe last year's atrocious sixty innings were what I was waiting for?

>But I believe that Joe Ross so far is the only player under
>team control and in his 20s, seemingly with more to play for
>trying to play a "full" season after coming back from injury
>and having "only" made a few million on the cusp of
>arbitration.

Did he give a reason? I see both Ross brothers opted out. Maybe somebody in the Ross family that needs the additional protection?

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17. "RE: That taxonomy seems proportioned correctly"
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>Did he give a reason? I see both Ross brothers opted out.
>Maybe somebody in the Ross family that needs the additional
>protection?

I had not heard anything. I'm hoping somebody just goes off and says it's because of the extra innings rule.

Now with Michael Kopech opting out we may be seeing a new category? 20-something late 1st round pitcher who had TJ and traded from their original team? Somebody better make sure Marco Gonzalez is 100% on board with the Mariners in 2020

  

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18. "Aroldis Chapman tests positive..."
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has mild symptoms.

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19. "He tried to kill his girlfriend though so oh well"
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22. "That wasn’t posted as a get well soon message "
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25. "Sounds like a couple relievers on the Nationals too"
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Suero & Elias

  

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26. "some of these staffs are going to be scraping..."
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the pot, just to get through this truncated season.

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20. "baseball is the easiest sport to bring back"
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not saying it's easy, just the easiest. players already socially distance.

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23. "the only problem is they live in the United States"
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24. "Uh huh"
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I'm terminally behind on these things, so it wasn't until this morning that way of describing things dawned on me. There are activities that are more and less safe with COVID and apparently "living in the United States" is more dangerous than playing most sports, even contact ones.

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27. "Jeff Passan reports that Juan Soto has Covid"
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1286365378067783683?

Cancel the season.

  

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28. "just saw that..."
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Passan was on LeBatard, today...about to grab some lunch and listen to the pod...interested to hear what he thinks, overall.

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