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"R******s are undergoing a review of the team’s name. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"


  

          

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1279067390198927360?s=19

I'll be pretty impressed if Dan Snyder manages to ride out our current moment without changing the name.

Not at all surprised, just impressed at what a truly horrible human being he is.

(far beyond just the racist team name.)

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Subject Author Message Date ID
It’s over. FedEx and Nike applying pressure
Jul 03rd 2020
1
That’s been an ignored fact for years
Jul 03rd 2020
5
Redskins fan
Jul 03rd 2020
2
35-1-0
Jul 03rd 2020
4
*IF* they actually change the name, what should it become?
Jul 03rd 2020
3
these odds makers names are terrible
Jul 03rd 2020
6
      the Red Tails idea, significance, and mock logos are best BY FAR
Jul 03rd 2020
7
      May as well call them the Generals.
Jul 03rd 2020
9
the fact that the name R******s...
Jul 03rd 2020
8
The Washington Pigskins and call it a day.
Jul 03rd 2020
10
Warhogs sounds like an arena football team.
Jul 05th 2020
13
      when I was little, there was an indoor soccer team here called that
Jul 06th 2020
16
I would just change the name to the Washington Warriors and go
Jul 03rd 2020
11
I think Ron Rivera is exactly who we needed (link to ESPN article)
Jul 05th 2020
12
They’re going to pick something epically military and shitty
Jul 05th 2020
14
      I think after all of this noise, they just land at "Warriors"
Jul 06th 2020
15
           if there's no resistance from Golden State I think that's pretty likely
Jul 06th 2020
17
minority owners trying to sell. I love the drama.
Jul 06th 2020
18
this humbling is overdue. He has no allies now. Adapt or perish.
Jul 06th 2020
19
Amazon the latest to pull WFC gear from their store
Jul 09th 2020
20
It’s money motivated first BUT...
Jul 09th 2020
21
      hard disagree
Jul 09th 2020
22
           I actually think we mean to agree here. Here's what I mean
Jul 09th 2020
23
                I think he only cares about some players to validate himself
Jul 09th 2020
24
                     Re
Jul 09th 2020
25
                          The lack of Black criticism in this area should not be lost on us
Jul 10th 2020
26
                               Black folks are actually the loyal holdout fans.
Jul 13th 2020
36
I've heard Bravehearts as a possible replacement
Jul 10th 2020
27
I'm certain Dan Snyder thinks Mel Gibson is the greatest American* ever
Jul 10th 2020
28
      This comment made me choke on my coffee!
Jul 13th 2020
30
name change announcement in the next 24 hours.
Jul 12th 2020
29
It’s done.
Jul 13th 2020
31
The fallout from this is gonna be something to see.
Jul 13th 2020
33
      a take from just one dude who's actually here in DC...
Jul 13th 2020
34
      Also, haven't plenty of locals advocated for this for a while?
Jul 13th 2020
39
           majority of locals are indifferent and have moved on
Jul 14th 2020
40
      I think the number of people who will be publicly angry about this
Jul 13th 2020
35
im hoping for Washington Warriors or DC Warriors
Jul 13th 2020
32
"sponsors, fans, and community"
Jul 13th 2020
37
Follow the money
Jul 13th 2020
38
anyone know anything?
Jul 16th 2020
41
I don't even have a guess
Jul 16th 2020
42
Sounds like Epstein stuff
Jul 16th 2020
43
      shit
Jul 16th 2020
44
whatever it is must be huge
Jul 16th 2020
46
Can only pass on what I’ve been told
Jul 16th 2020
47
      that Bibbs one really escalated. wow
Jul 16th 2020
48
      Wasn't there already a story about the withholding passports?
Jul 16th 2020
49
           yes, and it's supposedly being reintroduced in this eventual Post story
Jul 16th 2020
50
           yes, same story.
Jul 16th 2020
51
let us not forget this Dan Snyder classic
Jul 16th 2020
45
In a story about an absurd situation, this line is absurd:
Jul 16th 2020
53
YIKES!!!!
Jul 16th 2020
52
I'm afraid the masquerade is over
Jul 16th 2020
54
sexual harrassment scandal (WaPo swipe):
Jul 16th 2020
55
nothing shocking in here at all sadly.
Jul 16th 2020
56
Shit...I’m sorry
Jul 16th 2020
60
damn.
Jul 17th 2020
61
:(
Jul 17th 2020
62
No one ought to bear that burden. I'm sorry.
Jul 17th 2020
63
this shit is terrible, and it's interesting how, like the mavericks
Jul 16th 2020
58
Tragic, but not enough to bring him down
Jul 16th 2020
59
horrible stuff
Jul 16th 2020
57
everyone in that front office must go...
Jul 19th 2020
64
how they were able
Jul 20th 2020
66
it's not isolated, it's a culture
Jul 21st 2020
67
Yep I heard the terrible stories from a former NBA employee
Jul 22nd 2020
70
in tech
Jul 22nd 2020
71
Think about Harvey Weinstein
Jul 21st 2020
68
Real talk? Run this expose of all 32 teams.
Jul 21st 2020
69
      :(
Jul 22nd 2020
72
      And probably the other leagues too
Jul 23rd 2020
78
Welp, "Washington Football Team" it is
Jul 23rd 2020
73
clever way to double dip on the merch sales
Jul 23rd 2020
74
Yeah bet Snyder is delusional enough
Jul 23rd 2020
75
Guys, do better...
Jul 23rd 2020
76
Eh, I think they just don’t want to rush into a bad nickname*
Jul 23rd 2020
77
team releases Derrius Guice...
Aug 07th 2020
79
shit....
Aug 19th 2020
88
what Ron Rivera has had to endure all before even coaching a game...
Aug 10th 2020
80
I'm still not sure why he chose to sign with this flaming dumpster fire
Aug 10th 2020
81
      its 1 of 32 jobs of its kind in the world
Aug 13th 2020
85
minority owners pressuring Snyder to sell (WSJ link):
Aug 13th 2020
83
thought they were doing the right thing...but america.
Aug 13th 2020
84
      I don't understand why the league can't do him like they did Richardson ...
Aug 13th 2020
86
           Richardson got popped for wanton sexual harassment and racism
Aug 19th 2020
89
                NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND!
Aug 26th 2020
95
Washington hires Jason Wright as NFL's first Black team president(link):
Aug 17th 2020
87
ron rivera hss cancer.
Aug 20th 2020
90
and they said there was no curse
Aug 21st 2020
91
wow
Aug 21st 2020
92
another expose out. this one with texts from snyder.
Aug 26th 2020
93
Where’s the texts from Snyder?
Aug 26th 2020
94
jesus christ he is one of the most horrible people on earth
Aug 26th 2020
96

BrooklynWHAT
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1. "It’s over. FedEx and Nike applying pressure"
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Even the fact that they have to “review” it is pathetic to me. Just drop it for this season, have Nike make some new unis and sideline gear without the logos and Redskins

And say you’ll unveil the new name/logo in 2021

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5. "That’s been an ignored fact for years"
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If they change the name I assume they’ll make tons of new money in new merch sales

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2. "Redskins fan"
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Liverpool fan.


Damn, dude, what’s your problem?

lol

  

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4. "35-1-0"
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“At their tail end”

35-1-0

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3. "*IF* they actually change the name, what should it become?"
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My preference is for foreskins...

I sorta laughed at the potato meme too(yeah, I know):

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk02huonScr1fRu5U29HA9dkXgMddRA:1593790956928&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=washington+redskins+potato+logo&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiWqdX-tbHqAhUSI6wKHZ1NAuoQsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=1366&bih=641

In all seriousness, Pigskins is tolerable to everyone other than PETA (though still a silly name).

My real vote is for Warriors

  

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smutsboy
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6. "these odds makers names are terrible"
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and it would be very on-brand for Snyder to replace a racist team name with that of a slave owner.

https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/07/03/oddsmakers-think-its-possible-the-washington-redskins-will-rename-themselves-the-washington-capitols/

https://twitter.com/OddsShark/status/1279074746777374720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



Odds to be the new name of Washington's NFL team (BetOnline):

Presidents +300
Generals +400
Lincolns +400
Americans +500
Kings +500
Memorials +500
Capitols +600
Veterans +600
Jeffersons +700
Roosevelts +700
Monuments +800
Arlingtons +1000

— Odds Shark (@OddsShark) July 3, 2020

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7. "the Red Tails idea, significance, and mock logos are best BY FAR"
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9. "May as well call them the Generals."
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Just like basketball’s Washington Generals, the Washington football team ain’t contending any time soon.

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8. "the fact that the name R******s..."
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appears like 8 times in the press release, has to be on purpose, right? Like...one last fuck you from a guy who knows he can't win.

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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10. "The Washington Pigskins and call it a day. "
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It already has a football connection, and they have a section called the hogs.


Or the Washington Warhogs. There are war veterans that call themselves warhogs, so you have that connection as well.


Washington Red Boars.

Or in name of the state's bird.

Washington Thrushers or Washington Wood Thrushers


Washington Red Warriors.











  

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13. "Warhogs sounds like an arena football team."
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16. "when I was little, there was an indoor soccer team here called that"
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Washington Warthogs

Unis were fire:

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11. "I would just change the name to the Washington Warriors and go"
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With their throwback uniforms and helmets with the spear that is similar to Florida States helmet and logo.

I like the idea of Red Tails as well.

  

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12. "I think Ron Rivera is exactly who we needed (link to ESPN article)"
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29411648/coach-ron-rivera-says-working-redskins-owner-new-nicknames

I’m a battered spouse at this point I admit, but this is the most optimistic I’ve been in a long time

  

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14. "They’re going to pick something epically military and shitty"
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But at least it won’t be a racist slur anymore.

My fingers are crossed for the Generals. A fictional team that has literally never won a game.

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15. "I think after all of this noise, they just land at "Warriors""
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to expect Dan F'n Snyder to do something more inspired than that is to insult your own intelligence.

Warriors sort of applies to American Indians and the military as well, so there's that.

So they go with Warriors, hopefully change the logo to the spear and keep it moving. All told, the Spear logo is cooler than the Indian Chief logo anyway.

  

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17. "if there's no resistance from Golden State I think that's pretty likely"
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but the last time a team adopted a name that already existed was the Carolina Panthers in 1995 and I feel like the landscape has changed since then in terms of monetization and branding.

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18. "minority owners trying to sell. I love the drama."
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29415651/redskins-trio-minority-owners-launching-search-sell-stakes

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19. "this humbling is overdue. He has no allies now. Adapt or perish."
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I'm left wondering if there's any way he would or could be forced to sell?

  

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smutsboy
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20. "Amazon the latest to pull WFC gear from their store"
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even mega-asshole Larry Hogan thinks they should change it.

Can't believe it's actually going to happen.

Of course Snyder doesn't give a shit about racism and justice, it's only changing because it's finally going to threaten his bank acct. But still.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29430296/amazon-pull-redskins-merchandise-team-reviews-nickname

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21. "It’s money motivated first BUT..."
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I do believe that Snyder’s so obsessed with how his players perceive him that at least some of the decision is motivated by not wanting to put guys in weird situations.

If they’d gotten to training camp and the name hadn’t been changed, press would’ve started asking players about the name, and I think that would’ve made him look bad to the players he’s so obsessed with being friends with.

Like Jonathan Allen is a pro’s pro, family man, Alabama product, and from a military family... you can’t put a guy like that in an embarrassing situation for long and not expect him to hold you accountable.

  

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22. "hard disagree"
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Thu Jul-09-20 09:10 AM by smutsboy

  

          

Snyder is an extreme narcissist with a pathological obsession with never taking responsibility for anything. He, like Trump and other rich sociopaths, think they're literally better than almost everyone else.

Little people don't matter.

There is no way in hell that guy has even the first clue what's going on with black people in America, let alone that prompting him to give a shit about his black employees or any other human period.

Not a chance in hell.

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23. "I actually think we mean to agree here. Here's what I mean"
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>Snyder is an extreme narcissist with a pathological obsession
>with never taking responsibility for anything. He, like Trump
>and other rich sociopaths, think they're literally better than
>almost everyone else.
>
>Little people don't matter.
>
>There is no way in hell that guy has even the first clue
>what's going on with black people in America, let alone that
>prompting him to give a shit about his black employees or any
>other human period.
>
>Not a chance in hell.

We're on the same page on all the above.

He likes the attention of being a big shot, he's drunk on status, he guzzles attention...I too agree that he doesn't care or know about the issues plaguing the black community in the US. But I think he desperately cares if Derrius Guice thinks he's COOL or not.

Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Fred Smoot, and Chris Cooley to name a few have all talked at length about how chummy he was with his players - inviting them to his home, on his plane, to private dinners. Hell, that very approach was the beginning of the end for RG3 and in turn Mike Shanahan - Snyder's craving of adoration from his star player.

My point is that he doesn't want to put his players in a weird spot just because he doesn't want them to know just how huge of a prick dork he is. He doesn't really care about their feelings or their plight as a race, he cares about how HE's perceived in their eyes which would in turn motivate him to shield them from potential embarrassment. (That, and also a potential windfall in the several millions of dollars)




  

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24. "I think he only cares about some players to validate himself"
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So I don't think something like racial justice or hard questions about a shitty racist logo come into that equation.

I think he just wants players to think he's cool or whatever.

He's a classic tyrant who just wants people around him to feed his ego.

It's a one-way street, imo.

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25. "Re"
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>he doesn't want them to know just how huge of a prick dork he is.

I think this is true, but the thing about narcissists is that responsibility for liking them and appreciating their greatness lies entirely with the people around them, not the tyrant himself.

So if someone doesn't like Snyder's position on the racist name, or a player is unhappy because they have to answer awkward questions about their racist company, Snyder would view those things as problems with the player's perceptions, not as something that Snyder can or should fix.

'a you problem, not a me problem' -Snyder's subconscious

The world revolves around him. His position is by default the center. So if the name makes some players mad or frustrated, he's way more likely to tell that player to go fuck himself than he is to change any of his personal beliefs or policies.

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26. "The lack of Black criticism in this area should not be lost on us"
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>>he doesn't want them to know just how huge of a prick dork
>he is.
>
>I think this is true, but the thing about narcissists is that
>responsibility for liking them and appreciating their
>greatness lies entirely with the people around them, not the
>tyrant himself.
>
>So if someone doesn't like Snyder's position on the racist
>name, or a player is unhappy because they have to answer
>awkward questions about their racist company, Snyder would
>view those things as problems with the player's perceptions,
>not as something that Snyder can or should fix.
>
>'a you problem, not a me problem' -Snyder's subconscious
>
>The world revolves around him. His position is by default the
>center. So if the name makes some players mad or frustrated,
>he's way more likely to tell that player to go fuck himself
>than he is to change any of his personal beliefs or policies.


Far too many Black people have had ZERO issues with the name. For the many things that Snyder has been criticized for, it has never been by large swaths of Black people, for the name of the team. He's never faced considerable pressure from within so I can believe he's never even had to FAKE being conflicted.

pathetic but not surprising that a few power moves by his major partners are getting this convo moving more substantially than it ever has before. a sobering reminder that folks will do the right thing for self-interest long before they do it out of integrity.

  

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36. "Black folks are actually the loyal holdout fans. "
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The Black fans here in DC are loyal and perennially optimistic at the start of each season

  

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27. "I've heard Bravehearts as a possible replacement"
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imagine if they made Nas the logo.

  

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28. "I'm certain Dan Snyder thinks Mel Gibson is the greatest American* ever"
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30. "This comment made me choke on my coffee!"
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29. "name change announcement in the next 24 hours."
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31. "It’s done. "
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33. "The fallout from this is gonna be something to see."
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A giant cannon blast in the culture wars.

  

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34. "a take from just one dude who's actually here in DC..."
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it seems that the general mood in the area right now is indifference...and I think that's largely because they've been bad for 30 years. If this were a good team who's being strong armed into doing something, if they still had a rabid and loyal fanbase, well then I think it would be different. But it largely seems that no one really cares that much.

  

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39. "Also, haven't plenty of locals advocated for this for a while?"
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When I used to listen to Kornheiser a handful of years ago, I feel like it was at least a yearly offseason subject. And I think Bill Simmons' DC bud Joe House has just called them The Football Team for years now.


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40. "majority of locals are indifferent and have moved on"
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the team has been mostly dreadful since 2012, their last indisputably relevant year (RG3)

Despicable owner, decrepit stadium, awful team, Caps title, Nats title...the name change topic wasn't relevant because the team wasn't relevant.

It was time for the name to change, sure. But there was not a groundswell of support for changing OR keeping the name here in DC. Of late, it's largely been a narrative pushed by mostly liberal sports opinion people with national audiences. That's not criticism, just true.

  

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35. "I think the number of people who will be publicly angry about this"
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is exaggerated.

I think after it's done, a majority of people won't care.

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32. "im hoping for Washington Warriors or DC Warriors"
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Saw concepts for that I liked.


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37. ""sponsors, fans, and community""
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As others have pointed out, I just want to acknowledge the honesty about the hierarchy of importance revealed in the team's statement.

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38. "Follow the money"
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This wasn't gonna happen if Dan's wallet wasn't in jeopardy

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41. "anyone know anything?"
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https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/media-members-continue-to-dance-around-washington-rumors-while-dan-snyder-trends.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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42. "I don't even have a guess"
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And I've spent a lot of time thinking about and hating that man.

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43. "Sounds like Epstein stuff "
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44. "shit"
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But given how rich and powerful he is, I'll be shocked if things get all the way to him.

He's got armies of people to blame and fire.

As we both know, that's how power and wealth work in this country.

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46. "whatever it is must be huge"
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47. "Can only pass on what I’ve been told "
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Will not share who I’ve heard from

- Snyder has paid refs off into the millions. Some other owners have too but he’s chief abuser.

- Snyder and Gruden threw many sex parties with rampant drug use and sexual abuse.

- on 2018 trip to Bahamas, Allen withheld cheerleaders passports unless they partied with sponsors and season ticket holders

- Gruden and RB Kapri Bibbs were sleeping with same woman. Gruden found out and got pissed, benched Bibbs subsequent game. Bibbs’ backup was player who missed the block that resulted in Alex Smith’s catastrophic leg break. Alex Smith will never play football again.

- Snyder a pill fiend

- FBI is investigating Snyder and team

Take all of this with a grain of salt, because who really knows?

  

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48. "that Bibbs one really escalated. wow"
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if even 1 of these is the story, i get the run-up to its publication.

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49. "Wasn't there already a story about the withholding passports?"
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I feel like that might have broke back in 2018. Or maybe I'm conflating it with the story Smuts posted below. Or maybe this is just the Redskins M.O.

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50. "yes, and it's supposedly being reintroduced in this eventual Post story"
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51. "yes, same story."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html

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45. "let us not forget this Dan Snyder classic"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html

Washington Redskins Cheerleaders Describe Topless Photo Shoot and Uneasy Night Out

By Juliet Macur

May 2, 2018

"When the Washington Redskins took their cheerleading squad to Costa Rica in 2013 for a calendar photo shoot, the first cause for concern among the cheerleaders came when Redskins officials collected their passports upon arrival at the resort, depriving them of their official identification.

For the photo shoot, at the adults-only Occidental Grand Papagayo resort on Culebra Bay, some of the cheerleaders said they were required to be topless, though the photographs used for the calendar would not show nudity. Others wore nothing but body paint. Given the resort’s secluded setting, such revealing poses would not have been a concern for the women — except that the Redskins had invited spectators.

A contingent of sponsors and FedExField suite holders — all men — were granted up-close access to the photo shoots..."

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53. "In a story about an absurd situation, this line is absurd:"
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52. "YIKES!!!!"
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Shit is about to get all the way real in Snyder land. We all know damn well this happened too.

https://dailysnark.com/apparently-the-washington-redskins-are-about-to-be-in-some-deep-deep-sht/

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54. "I'm afraid the masquerade is over"
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Story just got posted. Headline is "15 Women allege sexual harassment and verbal abuse" from the Redskins front office.

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55. "sexual harrassment scandal (WaPo swipe):"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/16/redskins-sexual-harassment-larry-michael-alex-santos/?arc404=true

A few months after Emily Applegate started working for the Washington Redskins in 2014, she settled into a daily routine: She would meet a female co-worker in the bathroom during their lunch breaks, she said, to commiserate and cry about the frequent sexual harassment and verbal abuse they endured.

They cried about the former chief operating officer’s expletive-laced tirades, Applegate said, when she recalled him calling her “f-----g stupid” and then requesting she wear a tight dress for a meeting with clients, “so the men in the room have something to look at.” They cried about a wealthy suiteholder who grabbed her friend’s backside during a game, Applegate said, and the indifference the team’s top sales executive displayed when she complained.

But most of all, Applegate said, they cried about the realization their dream job of working in the NFL came with what they characterized as relentless sexual harassment and verbal abuse that was ignored — and in some cases, condoned — by top team executives.

Applegate is one of 15 former female Redskins employees who told The Washington Post they were sexually harassed during their time at the club. The other 14 women spoke on the condition of anonymity citing a fear of litigation, as some signed nondisclosure agreements with the team that threaten legal retribution if they speak negatively about the club. The team declined a request from The Post to release former female employees from these agreements so they could speak on the record without fear of legal reprisal. This story involved interviews with more than 40 current and former employees and a review of text messages and internal company documents.

Team owner Daniel Snyder declined several requests for an interview. Over the past week, as The Post presented detailed allegations and findings to the club, three team employees accused of improper behavior abruptly departed, including Larry Michael, the club’s longtime radio voice, and Alex Santos, the team’s director of pro personnel.

In a statement, the team said it had hired D.C. attorney Beth Wilkinson and her firm, Wilkinson Walsh, “to conduct a thorough independent review of this entire matter and help the team set new employee standards for the future.”

“The Washington Redskins football team takes issues of employee conduct seriously … While we do not speak to specific employee situations publicly, when new allegations of conduct are brought forward that are contrary to these policies, we address them promptly,” the team said.

The allegations raised by Applegate and others — running from 2006 to 2019 — span most of Snyder’s tenure as owner and fall into two categories: unwelcome overtures or comments of a sexual nature, and exhortations to wear revealing clothing and flirt with clients to close sales deals. Among the men accused of harassment and verbal abuse are three former members of Snyder’s inner circle and two longtime members of the personnel department:

Michael, senior vice president of content and “the voice of the Washington Redskins.” Seven former employees said Michael routinely discussed the physical appearance of female colleagues in sexual and disparaging overtones. In 2018, Michael was caught on a “hot mic” speaking about the attractiveness of a college-aged intern, according to six former employees who heard the recording. Michael declined an interview request and retired Wednesday.
Alex Santos was fired as director of pro personnel last week. (Associated Press)
Santos, the club’s director of pro personnel, was accused by six former employees and two reporters who covered the team of making inappropriate remarks about their bodies and asking them if they were romantically interested in him. In 2019, Santos was the subject of an internal investigation after Rhiannon Walker, a reporter for The Athletic, informed club management Santos had pinched her, told her she had “an ass like a wagon,” and repeatedly asked her to date him, Walker said in an interview with The Post. Nora Princiotti, a reporter for The Ringer who formerly covered the team, also said in an interview that she was harassed by Santos. Santos, who was fired this past week, declined to comment.
Richard Mann II, assistant director of pro personnel, who in one text message obtained by the The Post told a female employee he and his colleagues debated whether her breasts had been surgically enhanced and in another text message told another female employee to expect an “inappropriate hug … And don’t worry that will be a stapler in my pocket, nothing else.” Mann, who also was fired last week, declined to comment.
Dennis Greene, former president of business operations, implored female sales staff to wear low-cut blouses, tight skirts and flirt with wealthy suite holders, according to five former employees, including Applegate. Greene’s 17-year career with the club ended in 2018 amid a scandal over the revelation he had sold access to Redskins cheerleaders — including attendance at a bikini calendar photo shoot in Costa Rica — as part of premium suite packages. Greene declined to comment.
Mitch Gershman, former chief operating officer, who Applegate said routinely berated her for trivial problems such as printer malfunctions while also complimenting her body. Two other former female employees supported Applegate’s account of her sexual harassment and verbal abuse by Gershman, who left the team in 2015.
“It was the most miserable experience of my life,” Applegate, now 31, said of her year working as a marketing coordinator for the club, which she left in 2015. “And we all tolerated it, because we knew if we complained — and they reminded us of this — there were 1,000 people out there who would take our job in a heartbeat.”

Gershman, in a phone interview, denied Applegate’s allegations.

“I barely even remember who she is,” Gershman said. “I thought the Redskins was a great place to work … I would apologize to anyone who thought that I was verbally abusive.”

No woman accused Snyder or former longtime team president Bruce Allen of inappropriate behavior with women, but they expressed skepticism the men were unaware of the behavior they allege.

“I would assume Bruce knew, because he sat 30 feet away from me … and saw me sobbing at my desk several times every week,” Applegate said.

Allen, who was fired at the end of last year, did not reply to interview requests.

Team owner Daniel Snyder, left, with former president and general manager Bruce Allen on the sideline before a Monday Night Football game at FedEx Field. (Jonathan Newton / The Washington Post)
While Applegate and others did not accuse Snyder of acting improperly with women, they blamed him for an understaffed human resources department and what they viewed as a sophomoric culture of verbal abuse among top executives that they believed played a role in how those executives treated their employees.

Snyder routinely belittled top executives, according to three former members of his executive staff, perhaps most intensely Greene, the former sales executive, whom Snyder mocked for having been a male cheerleader in college. After one executive staff meeting, according to one former employee, Greene said Snyder had ordered him to do cartwheels for their entertainment.

“I have never been in a more hostile, manipulative, passive-aggressive environment … and I worked in politics,” said Julia Payne, former assistant press secretary in the Clinton Administration who briefly served as vice president of communications for the team in 2003.

Payne did not witness or endure sexual harassment, she said, but she supported what many other former employees said about the culture under Snyder.

“With such a toxic, mood-driven environment, and the owner behaving like he does,” said Payne, “How could anyone think these women would go to HR?”

A team flag flies above Redskins Park in Ashburn, Va., (Jim Lo Scalzo / EPA-EFE/REX/Shutterstock)
Unwelcome advances
On the first day of working for the team, new employees are given a manual that describes the organization’s core values.

“Congratulations on becoming a member of an elite team of people involved in a franchise with a tremendous past and a promising future,” the handbook states. “The level of media and public scrutiny of the Washington Redskins magnifies any inappropriate or unprofessional behavior, so a high level of professionalism is required from all employees.”

While there is a section discussing sexual harassment, many former employees said, if there is a process for handling sexual harassment complaints, it’s never discussed in the club’s brief onboarding process.

It was the most miserable experience of my life. And we all tolerated it, because we knew if we complained — and they reminded us of this — there were 1,000 people out there who would take our job in a heartbeat.
Emily Applegate, Redskins employee in 2014 to 2015
The team’s human resources staff consists of one full-time staffer — who also performs administrative duties at team headquarters — responsible for more than 220 full-time employees, according to several former employees.

“There’s no HR,” said one former veteran female employee who left in 2019. “And there was never a reporting process, nor was one explained to new employees about how you should report something.”

In a statement, the Redskins pointed out the team hired a new human resources manager in 2019, and this employee works with the team’s legal department on any issues involving employee conduct.

Former women employees said the first few weeks at Redskins Park also often came with an informal, but invaluable, orientation administered privately by veteran female employees who warned them to avoid certain people and places, such as the staircase near the entrance to team headquarters.

Lined at the top with transparent plexiglass, the stairs descend from the lobby to the locker room and training area, and someone standing at the bottom can look up the skirt of a woman standing at the top.

One former female member of the executive staff learned this lesson early in her tenure, she said, when she looked down to see a male trainer, two floors down, staring right back up, walking step for step with her.

“He even leaned to get a better angle,” the woman said. “He wasn’t even trying to hide it.”

For many women, their jobs with the team were their first out of college. Several expressed a sense of shame, and said they realized they had accepted behavior years ago they now realize was inappropriate, such as an unwanted shoulder rub or a compliment about their legs.

“It was my first job, so I kind of normalized it,” said a woman who worked for the club for several years and departed in 2019. “And it was happening to every single one of my female co-workers under the age of 40.”

Training camp in Richmond in August was a hotbed of improper activity, several women said. Some encouraged younger female staffers to avoid the Tobacco Company, a bar and restaurant in a stately brick building frequented by team officials.

“I was propositioned basically every day at training camp,” said one female employee who worked for the team in the mid-2010s for several years. The overtures came in the form of a whispered invitation from one coach at the Tobacco Company to his hotel room, she said, as well as emails and text messages from other male staffers, also disclosing their room numbers and offering invitations for late-night visits.

Attending the annual NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis, former female employees said, also heightened the likelihood of unwanted attention and propositions at places such as Prime 47, a steakhouse and bar popular with league officials and journalists.

I have never been in a more hostile, manipulative, passive-aggressive environment … and I worked in politics. … With such a toxic, mood-driven environment, and the owner behaving like he does, how could anyone think these women would go to HR?
Julia Payne, former assistant press secretary in the Clinton Administration who briefly served as vice president of communications for the Redskins in 2003.
At the 2019 combine, Rhiannon Walker, new to the Redskins beat for The Athletic, arrived at Prime 47 to learn that Santos, the club’s scouting director, had been asking her reporting colleagues if they thought she might be interested in him, she said in a phone interview this week. They tried to discourage him — outside of the ethical concerns, Walker said, her colleagues knew she was in a committed relationship and wouldn’t ever date a married man — but Santos was undeterred, she said she was told upon arriving.

Santos approached, she said, and the conversation started innocently. He showed her photos of his wife and young daughters on his phone, Walker recalled, reading from notes she later provided to her company’s lawyers describing the incident. Then Santos told Walker she had “worn the f---” out of her jeans the day before, she said, and asked if she would date him, if they were single.

“I told him that I do have a girlfriend, and he does have a wife, so we don’t need to play hypotheticals here,” Walker said. “I was pretty blunt.”

Santos kept attempting to flirt for several minutes and told Walker he would “wear me down with his charm,” she recalled. Then he pinched her on the hip, in full view of other team employees and reporters, she said. Walker felt humiliated, she recalled, and concerned some people who saw what had happened would think she had welcomed the attention.

“It felt like pretty much the worst thing in the world,” Walker said. “He didn’t care. He thought it was funny.”

Walker later filed a complaint with the team. In a statement, The Athletic supported her account, and confirmed the company’s attorneys spoke with Redskins management about Walker’s allegations.

“The Athletic unequivocally stands by Rhiannon Walker’s account of the harassment she endured from Mr. Santos,” the company said.

Soon after her incident with Santos, Walker said, she learned of another reporter who alleged she had endured similar harassment: Nora Princiotti, who covered the team for the Washington Times in 2017.

Princiotti, in a phone interview, said on two or three occasions, Santos pulled his SUV alongside her as she was walking out of Redskins Park, and offered commentary on her body and wardrobe.

“He told me I had a great ass for a little white girl,” Princiotti said. “The general sentiment was that I should wear less clothing.”

Like Walker, Princiotti said she was struck by how brazenly Santos acted, as well as other team employees who commented on her looks. Princiotti said one male member of the communications staff once told her she had a nickname around Redskins Park: “Princihottie.”

“It was gross and also just a terrible pun,” she said. “There was an overwhelming sense that no one would ever do anything about this stuff.”

Walker informed Tony Wyllie, then the team’s vice president of communications, about Princiotti’s allegations, she said, and Princiotti confirmed she spoke to Wyllie about Santos. Wyllie, who left the team in 2019, declined to comment for this story. A few weeks later, team lawyers informed The Athletic that Santos had been disciplined but declined to specify how, Walker said.

Santos was fired last week, after The Post informed the team of allegations raised by other former female staffers. One former female staffer said she received a text, one night after work, in which Santos told her he had wanted to kiss her that day in the break room. Another former female employee said Santos told her, as she was walking into the office one day, she had a “nice butt” and asked her to turn around for him.

“I am done with the NFL,” the woman said. Her experience with the Redskins “has killed any dream of a career in pro sports.”

Conversation between Richard Mann II and a former female Redskins employee
Composite image of multiple screenshots. (Provided screenshots/The Washington Post)
Composite image of multiple screenshots. (The Washington Post)
Santos was fired along with his top scouting assistant Richard Mann II, who sent flirtatious, sexual texts to two former female employees they provided to The Post.

In an exchange with one former female colleague, Mann joked about getting an “inappropriate hug.” In two exchanges with another female colleague, Mann informed her he and his colleagues were discussing whether her breasts had been surgically enhanced — “real or fake is the debate,” he texted — and offered to bring her lunch for a favor.

“If I bring that I want to squeeze your butt,” Mann texted.

“Unfortunately that was (is?) the culture,” one of these women texted a reporter, after forwarding the messages. “So we felt like we had to roll with it.”

In a phone interview, new team Coach Ron Rivera declined to discuss why Santos and Mann were dismissed.

“We’re trying to create a new culture here” Rivera said. “We’re hoping to get people to understand that they need to judge us on where we are and where we’re going, as opposed to where we’ve been”

Conversation between Richard Mann II and a former female Redskins employee
Composite image of multiple screenshots.
‘Voice of the Redskins’
To fans and the general public, Larry Michael is perhaps one of the more consistent aspects of a franchise marked by regular personnel turnover. The team’s lead play-by-play broadcaster for the past 16 years, Michael also served as senior vice president in charge of content, overseeing the club’s website and video department.

But among his mostly male staff on the video and digital teams, Michael for years had become a growing source of discomfort, according to four former employees, because of his penchant for off-color commentary about female colleagues.

“It was always objectifying; it was always derogatory. … I wouldn’t even know what to do. I would just shake it off,” one former male staffer said. “We’re all just afraid for our jobs and trying to make it.”

During training camp in 2017, Michael saw a young woman from the sponsorship staff walk by and turned to one of his staffers and commented on her “tight ass,” before adding a remark about her social life, the staffer said.

Broadcasters Larry Michael, left, and Sonny Jurgensen at FedEx Field in 2004. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)
“He said you can’t mess with her, though … because you know she’s f-----g every guy on the team, right?,” said this staffer, who afterward mentioned the comment to four colleagues, including a veteran female employee.

“I was mortified, but not surprised,” the female employee said. Years earlier, Michael had squeezed this woman’s face after a late-night taping of a team program and told her “she was so cute,” she said.

Another comment, recalled by two former male employees, involved a female colleague of Egyptian descent.

“He said it looked like she definitely had a little Greek in her because of her lighter skin complexion, as well as that ass,” one former male employee said.

None of these employees filed formal complaints, they said, because they never thought anything would come of it.

“They’re not going to get rid of ‘The Voice of the Redskins’ … over a $30,000-a-year marketing manager,” one former male staffer said.

Michael was the subject of one complaint in 2018, according to six former team staffers, after he was recorded discussing one female intern during practice one day. The incident occurred as Michael was being filmed for a team video production, former employees said, and an intern walked by.

Former team employees who heard the video had different recollections of the precise wording, but agreed Michael remarked about how attractive he found the intern, who was in college.

“It was disgusting,” said one former female employee who heard the audio. “This is a grown man who could be my grandfather, and he’s talking about someone younger than me.”

One female employee complained about the video to the club’s legal department, and a team attorney took the hard drive from the employee who had discovered the video. When the lawyer returned the hard drive, this employee said, the file had been deleted. It was unclear to staffers aware of the incident whether Michael was disciplined.

“The club’s legal department removed the file from the hard drive and maintained the file in the organization’s confidential HR/Legal records where it still resides,” the team said in a statement.

On Wednesday morning, The Post requested an interview with Michael and informed club officials about comments attributed to Michael by his former employees and the “hot mic” incident.

Hours later, Michael announced his retirement.

“After 16 great years my time with the organization is over,” Michael said in a statement. “On to the next chapter.”

Snyder has owned Washington's NFL franchise since 1999. (Toni L. Sandys/The Washington Post)
Volatile environment
Before Emily Applegate changed jobs in December 2014, moving from working at FedEx Field to the team’s marketing department in Ashburn, she was warned by co-workers about her new boss, Mitch Gershman, she recalled. The club’s chief marketing officer had a reputation for an explosive temper, Applegate said, but not sexual harassment.

“I guess I was lucky enough to be more his type,” Applegate said.

Gershman often commented on her body or appearance, she said, in tandem with insults about her work performance.

“He would tell me I was stupid for not being able to print something out the way he wanted, and directly follow with, ‘Oh, did you run extra yesterday, you look really good,’” Applegate said.

Gershman told Applegate never to wear flats, only heels, she said, and suggested form-fitting dresses for nighttime events with premium clients. He also inquired about her dating life, and expressed concern she didn’t have a boyfriend, she said. In a text message exchange Applegate provided to The Post, she asked him about his plan for an upcoming sales meeting.

“Not part of it. No worries. Go find a dude!!” he replied.

There were also routine outbursts of rage, Applegate said, such as when Gershman got lost on the way to Joe Theismann’s Restaurant in Alexandria, after asking her to print out directions for him.

“All he had to do was type it in a GPS, and he spent 20 minutes screaming at how f-----g incompetent I was for not giving him proper directions,” she said. “I would leave work crying probably four days out of the week.”

Gershman, in a brief phone interview, alternately denied and said he didn’t recall conversations referenced by Applegate.

“I can’t comment on something that I can’t remember,” he said.

Conversation between Mitch Gershman and Emily Applegate
Composite image of multiple screenshots of text messages. (Screenshots by Emily Applegate/The Washington Post)
One other team executive repeatedly commented on Applegate’s appearance, she said: Dennis Greene, who held the high-pressure job of overseeing sales of luxury seating and premium suites at FedEx Field.

On one occasion, Applegate said, Greene complimented her on leggings she was wearing.

“He made a comment about how great I looked in these leggings because they were so tight,” she said. “That was actually the only time Mitch said something like, ‘Dennis, you can’t say something like that.’ ”

Women who worked for Greene hold conflicting feelings about their former boss. While they acknowledge he made inappropriate remarks and pressured them to wear revealing outfits and flirt with current and prospective suiteholders, they also were aware Greene faced tremendous pressure from Snyder to sell expensive seats for a team whose on-the-field product often made his job challenging.

Snyder “would humiliate Dennis in front of other executives because he was a cheerleader in college … and Dennis took everything. He did everything and anything he had to, to make sure those suites were sold out year after year,” one former saleswoman said.

But even those sympathetic to Greene said his conduct left them with emotional scars. One saleswoman, who worked in the 2005 to 2010 time frame, recalled that Greene repeatedly offered to connect her with a plastic surgeon if she wanted breast enhancement surgery. He said he knew a doctor who had performed several procedures for cheerleaders, she recalled, and he could “get her a great rate.”

“Reducing a young woman to thinking that she can only do her job well if she wears a certain thing or exposes part of her body is demeaning,” this former saleswoman said. “It puts women in their place.”

'I don’t see what I have to be afraid of,' Applegate says. 'I’m just telling the truth.' (Celeste Sloman for The Washington Post)
Retribution concerns
Over the past few days, Applegate said, she has received messages from several former Redskins co-workers who have asked if she’s concerned about potential retaliation she could face from the club. She has told them she’s not concerned, she said. She has no interest in working in professional sports again, took the LSATs this week, and is studying for law school.

“I don’t see what I have to be afraid of,” she said. “I’m just telling the truth.”

To some of her former colleagues, there is one anecdote from Applegate’s time with the team that troubles them most. In 2015, Applegate said, she was pulled aside by Eric Schaffer, the club’s general counsel and senior vice president, who left earlier this year.

Schaffer was appalled by the verbal abuse Applegate endured from Gershman, she said he told her, and he offered to serve as a witness or connect her with a lawyer if she wanted to file a formal complaint. Applegate declined, and said she feared making an issue of Gershman’s conduct would mark the end of her career with the team.

I barely even remember who she is. I thought the Redskins was a great place to work … I would apologize to anyone who thought that I was verbally abusive.
MItch Gershman, former chief operating officer, who left the organization in 2015
Applegate regards Schaffer as one of the few male team executives who treated her well. Some of her former colleagues, however, expressed outrage that Schaffer didn’t file a complaint of his own. According to the employee manual, “all supervisory and management personnel of the Redskins organization are expected to take immediate and appropriate action to prevent or stop harassment in the workplace of which they become aware.”

Schaffer declined to comment. Applegate said she understands why he didn’t make an issue of her treatment in 2015. It’s the same reason she never filed a complaint.

“I needed to keep my job,” she said. “When it comes down to it, 98 percent of people make decisions on stuff like this based on needing to keep their jobs … which is why this stuff goes on for so long.”

  

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56. "nothing shocking in here at all sadly. "
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And I know that helpless feeling too. You just grin and fucking bear it. I hope all of these women find peace and happiness.

  

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60. "Shit...I’m sorry "
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61. "damn."
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62. ":("
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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63. "No one ought to bear that burden. I'm sorry."
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<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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58. "this shit is terrible, and it's interesting how, like the mavericks"
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the "locker room" behavior is coming from the front office.


have you seen this rumor about the alex smith injury? this is some shitttt

https://twitter.com/matt_umd/status/1283600485279244290

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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59. "Tragic, but not enough to bring him down"
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Would take 31 other owners strong arming Snyder to get him out, but then that puts their organizations under review as well. A vote against Snyder is a public declaration of your own org being without flaw

  

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57. "horrible stuff"
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But this isn't going to get within three levels of Snyder, let alone "force him to sell".

Whether it should or not is a different question entirely.

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64. "everyone in that front office must go..."
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..From Snyder to anyone that might still be around from that coaching/training staff.

A fine won't cut it. An apology won't suffice.

Fuck Dan Snyder and anyone that supports him.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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66. "how they were able"
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to get away with this for so long is amazing to me. a toxic environment
and suddenly it all makes sense.

  

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67. "it's not isolated, it's a culture"
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My experiences were in basketball...

It's any male dominated industry. I'm in tech now and the things being said in my face aren't as blatant, but it still happens.

  

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70. "Yep I heard the terrible stories from a former NBA employee"
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71. "in tech"
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we should share some stories...lol

  

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68. "Think about Harvey Weinstein"
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that was an open "secret" for *decades*

the power structures are ripe for this horrible stuff and are so profoundly fucked that nothing surprises me.

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69. "Real talk? Run this expose of all 32 teams."
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They aren’t all as bad as Washington, but none of them are good.

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72. ":("
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78. "And probably the other leagues too"
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I was surprised at how quickly the Mavs’ controversy got swept under the rug. I’m supposed to believe that Mark Cuban, a notorious micromanager, didn’t know about sexual misconduct happening in his own org for 2 decades? Sure.

  

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73. "Welp, "Washington Football Team" it is"
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These guys are really going to kick the can down the street until next season and hope this all dies down.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29524343/washington-nfl-team-use-washington-football-team-now-sources-say

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74. "clever way to double dip on the merch sales"
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Fans will be able to purchase "Washington Football Team" merchandise from Fanatics and NFL Shop in the coming days.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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75. "Yeah bet Snyder is delusional enough"
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to think he can keep the name or imagery if he waits a year.

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76. "Guys, do better..."
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"The Redskins retired "Redskins," the name it had used for 87 years, on July 13 after launching a thorough review 10 days earlier."

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77. "Eh, I think they just don’t want to rush into a bad nickname*"
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This is what I thought they’d do temporarily and I was surprised that they committed to picking a nickname this week. Their other PR nightmare probably got in the way. The slur ain’t coming back if national retailers won’t sell their shit though. Plus “Washington Football Team” is what many in the media have been calling them for a few years now, so it makes some sense.

*For the record, I’m 90% sure they’ll pick a shitty name in a year, but 100% sure they’d pick a shitty name now.

  

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79. "team releases Derrius Guice..."
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after domestic violence arrest. "Felony strangulation"...wow.


https://sports.yahoo.com/report-washington-rb-derrius-guice-arrested-on-domestic-violence-felony-strangulation-charge-224036830.html

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88. "shit...."
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https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1296032716329230338?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2020/08/19/ex-washington-nfl-player-derrius-guice-accused-rape-while-lsu/3391053001/

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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80. "what Ron Rivera has had to endure all before even coaching a game..."
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man, I don't envy that guy

  

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81. "I'm still not sure why he chose to sign with this flaming dumpster fire"
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85. "its 1 of 32 jobs of its kind in the world"
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83. "minority owners pressuring Snyder to sell (WSJ link):"
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/minority-owners-pressure-dan-snyder-to-sell-washingtons-nfl-team-11597343129?mod=hp_lead_pos11

By Andrew Beaton and Cara Lombardo
Aug. 13, 2020 2:25 pm ET


The minority partners of Washington’s NFL team are pressuring Dan Snyder to sell the franchise, according to people familiar with the matter, amid a growing firefight inside a team facing controversy on multiple fronts.

Mr. Snyder, the team’s 55-year-old billionaire owner, has no intention to sell his majority stake in the team, the people said. A recent legal filing by Mr. Snyder suggests that at least one of the minority partners has attempted to leak defamatory information against him.

The team’s minority owners—FedEx Corp. CEO Fred Smith, Black Diamond Capital chairman Robert Rothman and NVR Inc. board chairman Dwight Schar—own approximately 40% of the team and have hired an investment firm to sell their interest in the franchise formerly known as the Redskins. Those same stakes would become more valuable if the entire team, which would likely be worth several billion dollars, were to be sold, the people said.

The stakes have attracted interest from a variety of potential buyers, but Mr. Snyder has been reluctant to give any of them the option to eventually buy control despite the attempt to oust him, the people said. That has prompted some would-be buyers to walk away.

Sales of minority stakes typically come at a significant discount if they don’t provide a path to ultimately control over the team. If the team were to go up for sale, the limited partners or whoever purchases them would have a right of first refusal, one of the people said.

Mr. Snyder declined to comment.

The rancor between the partners comes at a time when the team is already mired in conflict. Last month, Mr. Snyder and the Washington Football Team hired a law firm to conduct an internal investigation into the team’s culture following a report by the Washington Post that detailed a pattern of sexual and verbal harassment from 2006 to 2019. Mr. Snyder wasn’t implicated in the story. Mr. Snyder, in a statement afterward, said the reported behavior has no place in the team.

Also last month, the franchise abandoned its name of 87 years after amplified calls to get rid of a moniker that was widely seen as derogatory. Mr. Snyder, who once vowed never to change the name, faced pressure from politicians, activists and even his own sponsors as the NFL grappled with its role in the nationwide movement against systemic racism.

Those sponsors included FedEx, which is the namesake of the team’s stadium and run by Mr. Smith. When FedEx publicly asked the team to change its name, it effectively pitted the owners against one another.

The issues between the parties predate the recent decision to change the name. Mr. Smith had been looking to sell his stake in the team for at least a year and at one point, he thought he found a buyer. But a slow approval process involving Mr. Snyder for that new potential minority owner turned off the would-be buyer, who opted to purchase a minority stake in another NFL franchise instead, one person familiar with the dealings said.

Messrs. Rothman and Schar have also since decided to sell, and the trio contracted the investment bank Moag & Co. to sell their shares. Mr. Rothman didn’t respond to requests for comment. Mr. Schar couldn’t be reached for comment.

The tensions between the parties have grown more severe in recent weeks. While the minority partners privately look to push Mr. Snyder into selling, a lawsuit filed by Mr. Snyder suggests that one of the minority partners is behind a plot to leak defamatory information about him.

In a Monday filing in Federal District Court in Alexandria, Va., Mr. Snyder requested access to documents from a former executive assistant for the team, Mary-Ellen Blair, as part of a defamation case he filed in India against an Indian media company, MEA Worldwide, which Mr. Snyder says slandered him in July articles that have since been taken down. The filing refers to an unnamed “financial benefactor” aiding Ms. Blair and says she had been seeking to spread damaging information about Mr. Snyder.

Without naming any of the limited partners directly, the filing strongly implies that one of the limited partners could be involved in the effort to defame Mr. Snyder. Mr. Scharr’s daughter, Tracy, is on the board of Comstock, the real-estate company that owns the building where Ms. Blair lives, and Mr. Snyder’s filing says Ms. Blair has lived above her means at the property. The filing petitions discovery from Comstock to “shed light on Blair’s motive for seeking to defame and the nature of her ties to other participants in the same scheme.”

“This legal action will pierce the cloak of anonymity MEAWW has used to protect its nefarious clients, and ensure that those culprits pulling the strings to falsely attack Mr. Snyder from the shadows are brought into the light,” said Joe Tacopina, Mr. Snyder’s lawyer.

A lawyer for Ms. Blair said she never communicated with or provided information to MEA Worldwide. “This filing is an obvious and inappropriate attempt to silence Ms. Blair and others who may wish to communicate with legitimate news organizations about the culture of sexism, harassment and abuse that has existed at the highest levels of the Washington Football team for decades,” said Lisa Banks, Ms. Blair’s lawyer.

In an email through her secretary, Tracy Schar, who is Comstock’s senior vice president of marketing, provided Ms. Blair’s tenant history that she says showed that Ms. Blair has paid market rate for her apartment and that many of the team’s players, coaches and team staff have lived at the property because of its location.

“Any insinuation that Ms. Blair has received special treatment for any reason is patently false,” Ms. Schar said. “Any allegations or disparagement of Comstock is just spin designed to deflect from public reports of extremely disturbing behavior overseen by Mr. Snyder in his tenure as the majority owner of the Washington Football Team.”

Mr. Snyder made much of his fortune building Snyder Communications, a marketing and advertising company that he took public in 1996 and sold in 2000 for more than $2 billion. He was the youngest team owner in the NFL when he acquired the Redskins in 1999 for $750 million.

  

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84. "thought they were doing the right thing...but america."
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>The team’s minority owners—FedEx Corp. CEO Fred Smith,
>Black Diamond Capital chairman Robert Rothman and NVR Inc.
>board chairman Dwight Schar—own approximately 40% of the
>team and have hired an investment firm to sell their interest
>in the franchise formerly known as the Redskins. Those same
>stakes would become more valuable if the entire team, which
>would likely be worth several billion dollars, were to be
>sold, the people said.

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86. "I don't understand why the league can't do him like they did Richardson ..."
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in Carolina.

  

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89. "Richardson got popped for wanton sexual harassment and racism"
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Snyder is just an idiot but he's never actually been directly implicated on anything that the league could get him out with.

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95. "NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND!"
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87. "Washington hires Jason Wright as NFL's first Black team president(link):"
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29678773/washington-hires-jason-wright-nfl-first-black-president

  

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90. "ron rivera hss cancer."
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1296610136992161792

damn this dude has been through a lot in the last few months mayne.

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91. "and they said there was no curse"
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92. "wow"
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93. "another expose out. this one with texts from snyder."
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https://t.co/YSqhyRTtBN

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94. "Where’s the texts from Snyder?"
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Just read the whole thing. Where’s the texts?

It’s clear now that someone is on a mission to end DS.
I’m here for the show.

  

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96. "jesus christ he is one of the most horrible people on earth"
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/aug/26/dan-snyder-covert-video-cheerleaders-washington-nfl-team-football

Dan Snyder: covert video of cheerleaders reportedly made for Washington owner

The Washington Post has published fresh allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct at Washington’s NFL team, this time directly involving the franchise’s owner, Dan Snyder.

One former team employee said that a video was made of Washington cheerleaders accidentally exposing their breasts during a film shoot in 2008.

“Larry said something to the effect of, ‘We have a special project that we need to get done for the owner today: He needs us to get the good bits of the behind-the-scenes video from the cheerleader shoot onto a DVD for him,’” Brad Baker, a former Washington team employee told the Post.

Baker said he helped edit the video, which was burned on to a DVD labelled “For Executive Meeting”. The Post said it has a copy of the film. Michael, who resigned from the team last month, denies the allegations while Snyder is yet to comment.

“I feel betrayed and violated,” said Heather Tran, one of the cheerleaders who took part in the 2008 shoot.
Snyder took an age to drop Washington's racist nickname. And he'll still profit
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Another former Washington cheerleader, Tiffany Bacon Scourby, told the Post that Snyder encouraged her to sleep with Tony Roberts, a childhood friend of Snyder.

Scourby alleged Snyder told her at an event in 2004: “We have a hotel room. Why don’t you and Tony go upstairs and get to know each other better?”

Other female employees told the Post they were banned from mixing with players in case they were a “distraction”, and that harassment was widespread at the franchise. “It was like fresh meat to a pack of wolves every time a new pack of interns would come in,” one woman said.

Last month, Snyder hired a law firm to look into workplace culture at the team after the Post published a story detailing widespread sexual harassment. At the time, he said harassment “has no place in our franchise or society.” Several team executives and employees left the franchise following the July allegations.

Snyder is one of the most maligned team owners in the NFL. Once one of the most successful teams in the league, Washington have stagnated under his ownership, and have recorded just two winning seasons since 2008. In 2019, they finished with the second-worst record in the league.

Off the field, Snyder’s reign has been even worse. On top of overseeing a toxic work culture, he long refused to change the team’s nickname which was widely viewed as racist. He finally did so this summer, but only after significant pressure from sponsors.

Veteran Washington Post columnist Sally Jenkins offered a withering assessment of Snyder’s legacy on Wednesday. “This is what the NFL gets for not scraping Daniel Snyder off its shoe before now,” she wrote. “They’re partners with a man who sank a flagship organization, leaving behind a smutty storefront.”

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