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allStah
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"Watch what Andy Reid does with Shea Patterson"
Mon May-04-20 12:29 AM by allStah

          

A lot of people on this board rated Patterson as a very low NFL QB prospect. However, this kids ability to scramble and run is better than any incoming NFL rookie QB. And that translates into how Qbs are playing in the NFL. I had/have nothing but positive things to say about Shea, and you can check all the college posts on that.


Andy Reid is smart as hell. He always has a backup QB Plan. As great as Mahomes is, all it takes is one injury or whatever, but Reid, like always, will have a QB ready to go. You saw it with Matt Moore last season when Mahomes was our for about 3 weeks



And my bears? no back up plan. Trubisky's option was not picked up, so he will not be here, and Foles is mr. glass......We have nothing after that......nothing.


  

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Shea Patterson either blows or Jim Harbaugh is THAT bad
May 04th 2020
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the former.
May 04th 2020
2
look at that escapability
May 04th 2020
3
If he can throw to his first read, he’s fine
May 04th 2020
6
RE: If he can throw to his first read, he’s fine
May 04th 2020
9
      Wilton Speight and Jake Rudock got NFL paychecks last year
May 05th 2020
11
Haha.. he did throw a TD in the play
May 04th 2020
10
ugh. Bredeson and Ruiz pancaked a stunt on a pass play
May 05th 2020
12
      Lol...it was the RB, who got a clean release...
May 05th 2020
13
I guess you didn't see the Penn State game
May 04th 2020
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also...Shea has had weapons
May 05th 2020
14
Shea magic!
May 07th 2020
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shea trash.
May 04th 2020
4
RE: shea trash.
May 04th 2020
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Absolutely nothing. He’s sorry.
May 04th 2020
5
College does not always translate to what a QB is going to do
May 05th 2020
15
same logic is why I was quietly optimistic about Fromm
May 06th 2020
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RE: same logic is why I was quietly optimistic about Fromm
May 06th 2020
17
So in 8 years maybe a team gets lucky?
May 06th 2020
18

Tiger Woods
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1. "Shea Patterson either blows or Jim Harbaugh is THAT bad"
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all we heard coming into last year was that Michigan had lured away some untapped dual threat diamond in the rough. That Michigan offense was one of the most uninspired college offenses I've ever seen, and there was no semblance of Patterson being a dual threat athlete. He almost never did anything with his legs. He didn't have to resemble Mike Vick, but he wasn't even Drew Brees.

All that said, you're right that if anyone can squeeze juice out of that fruit it's Andy Reid. I honestly have no clue if Patterson can pass but he can probably do a lot of things similar to what Sean Payton does with Taysom Hill (albeit in an even more explosive offense in KC than in NO).

Also very intrigued what Pederson has in store for Jalen Hurts who's an obviously better athlete than Patterson but isn't a good passer.

  

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will_5198
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2. "the former."
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this is the only Shea Patterson video you need to see:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1251177188918951944

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Ceej
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3. "look at that escapability "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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6. "If he can throw to his first read, he’s fine"
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Not great, not good, but fine. If that first read is covered though, your team is toast. Not the best quality for an NFL QB.

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allStah
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9. "RE: If he can throw to his first read, he’s fine"
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That's all coaching.


He has arm strength, speed, and can keep plays alive. You can't teach that.

  

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cgonz00cc
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11. "Wilton Speight and Jake Rudock got NFL paychecks last year"
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the coaching is fine

Patterson's problem is that he only runs when he is explicitly told to run. He was terrible as a read option QB and almost as bad at recognizing running lanes from the pocket.

Hes a guy that looks great in practice with the coaches in his ear, but when he sees a curveball on Saturday, the situation quickly degrades.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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legsdiamond
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10. "Haha.. he did throw a TD in the play "
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but yeah, dude had a clean pocket and ran towards the rush.

That Michigan offense was brutal most of the year.

shut up already, damn

  

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cgonz00cc
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12. "ugh. Bredeson and Ruiz pancaked a stunt on a pass play"
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and Patterson runs right at the only DL still on his feet

and lol @ that little white flash of someone frantically waving his arms at the bottom of the screen

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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13. "Lol...it was the RB, who got a clean release..."
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and was open over the middle... instead, Patterson almost got that receiver put in the hospital.

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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allStah
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7. "I guess you didn't see the Penn State game "
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That is when Michigan turned it around offensively, even though they lost. He was very good in that game.

  

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14. "also...Shea has had weapons"
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on his sophomore Ole Miss team he had:

WR AJ Brown -- 11-game starter for TEN, 1051 yards, 8 TD
WR DK Metcalf -- 15-game starter for SEA, 900 yards, 7 TD
WR Van Jefferson -- 2020 2nd rounder for LAR
WR DaMarkus Lodge -- CIN practice squad
TE Dawson Knox -- 11-game starter for BUF, 388 yards, 2 TD

plus RB Jordan Wilkins (IND back-up, 307 yards, 2 TD) in the backfield. oh, and OT Greg Little (CAR). SEVEN damn NFL players on the same offense!

he still couldn't complete 59% of his passes and had a 6-5 TD-INT ratio in the SEC. what was Michigan getting, exactly?

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19. "Shea magic!"
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would be off the charts hilarious if he balled out in the NFL but that seems like a very low percentage play.

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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4. "shea trash. "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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allStah
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8. "RE: shea trash. "
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Mon May-04-20 11:51 AM by allStah

          

Hmm, who should I pay attention to ,Brooklynwhat or Andy Reid?

I'm conflicted. I really don't know who I should pay attention to.

You also said Jacob Eason was trash and wouldn't get drafted....

  

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5. "Absolutely nothing. He’s sorry."
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allStah
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15. "College does not always translate to what a QB is going to do "
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on the next level.

We've seen tons of QBs suck on the College level, but evolve on the pro level after getting the proper coaching. .

We've seen QBs who were bad qbs, like Matt Moore, Ryan Tannehill, etc take off after being put in the right system, or after years of further development.

The kid has some great natural talent. His issues are being able to read, react, and simply making the correct decision as a QB. That can be coached.

  

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16. "same logic is why I was quietly optimistic about Fromm"
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Wed May-06-20 06:02 AM by Tiger Woods

  

          

Fromm had barely any weapons last year, and Georgia’s offense struggled to get into their rhythms in same games (loss home to SC, clumsy win home against ND)

But I’ve seen him make plays when he has talent around him and a good back behind him and an offense that has an identity. He’s got size too. I think there’s promise there.

Unfortunately he got drafted to Buffalo who a) already has a QB prospect and b) is an entirely different climate than Athens GA

  

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allStah
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17. "RE: same logic is why I was quietly optimistic about Fromm"
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Yeah, Fromm is a very cerebral player. I heard he is smart as hell.

I can see him evolving in the NFL.

  

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18. "So in 8 years maybe a team gets lucky? "
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Cause the dudes you are using as examples didn’t do shit for the teams that drafted them.

If anything KC may be able to get some value for him in a few years in a trade for a 6th rounder.

shut up already, damn

  

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