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"If the NBA resumes in 4 weeks, should they go straight"
Thu Mar-12-20 06:08 PM by allStah

          

into the Playoffs?

I believe they should based on the current seedings. Or with the seeds that sit out of the playoff, do a one game elimination round, and the last two teams standing in the east and west get placed into the playoffs.

It would be like a playoffs between the worst teams in the league, and then they get promoted to the regular playoffs. Instead of trying to play out the 30 remaining games.

Create an entirely different format.

  

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It's minimum 30 days, and no.
Mar 12th 2020
1
nah I want a little warmup for the playoffs
Mar 12th 2020
2
RE: nah I want a little warmup for the playoffs
Mar 12th 2020
3
      They'll need a week or two of games to get back up to speed
Mar 15th 2020
17
Moot point. This shit ain't getting resolved in a month.
Mar 12th 2020
4
Right, it"s a wrap.
Mar 12th 2020
5
RE: Moot point. This shit ain't getting resolved in a month.
Mar 12th 2020
6
I’m trying to not get too down about it but...yeah.
Mar 12th 2020
7
Yeah agree
Mar 13th 2020
8
Bumping back the draft isn't a *huge* deal, I don't think.
Mar 13th 2020
12
:((((((((
Mar 13th 2020
13
i think its more likely that they finish this year AND start next season...
Mar 13th 2020
14
they should let every team in the playoffs and seed em.
Mar 13th 2020
9
Fuck around and have Cleveland win it all against ATL
Mar 13th 2020
10
that would be epic and the only way harden could get a ring lol
Mar 14th 2020
15
i'm not mad at this
Mar 14th 2020
16
That'll be the last option but it should be the first
Mar 15th 2020
18
Plus Silver is trying to tinker with an in season tournament etc
Mar 16th 2020
19
yup shit wont really count anyway. at least make it memorable.
Mar 16th 2020
21
this would be my vote if it did come back
Mar 20th 2020
33
If they resume (and they will because $$$...don't be fooled)
Mar 13th 2020
11
We need to disabuse ourselves of any notion that it's coming back...
Mar 16th 2020
20
Basically. n/m
Mar 16th 2020
22
You underestimate the power of $$$$
Mar 16th 2020
23
      you underestimate the stupidity of Americans
Mar 16th 2020
25
      This might be the case but I'm still sitting in an office because my
Mar 17th 2020
28
      some of y'all need to ask the people you're around
Mar 17th 2020
26
           Some of you are so miserable that you should figure out a way
Mar 17th 2020
27
                lol damn.
Mar 20th 2020
35
                that suggestion really bothered the shit out of you.
Apr 11th 2020
39
I think it's more likely that they postpone '20/'21 season
Mar 16th 2020
24
that's what I think/am hoping the leagues do
Mar 20th 2020
31
4 Nets got it. This season is done
Mar 17th 2020
29
Silver on prospects of a return (ESPN)
Mar 20th 2020
30
Yeah, they are thinking of just making the season run Dec/Jan
Mar 20th 2020
32
I don't see it. I don't see anything resuming for at least 5 months
Mar 20th 2020
34
Fam we gotta start taking about the nfl season being impacted
Mar 20th 2020
36
Yeah Goodell seems to be delusional about this whole thing
Mar 28th 2020
37
that shyt goin to return right in time for the 2nd wave of outbreaks
Mar 29th 2020
38
as more time goes on this reply gets scarier and scarier
Apr 13th 2020
45
can we just agree to ignore allstah posts
Apr 11th 2020
40
I’m not sure how they could have the season at this point.
Apr 11th 2020
41
This HORSE is so trash
Apr 12th 2020
42
Lol they tried....i feel like some sort of shootout contest woulda worke...
Apr 12th 2020
43
It was cute and harmless. A net positive. And not really about hoop.
Apr 13th 2020
44
Woj: Beginning on May 1, the NBA is allowing teams to open their practic...
Apr 25th 2020
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RE: Woj: Beginning on May 1, the NBA is allowing teams to open their pra...
Apr 25th 2020
47
Makes sense
Apr 25th 2020
48
sounds like an unfair advantage for some teams.
Apr 26th 2020
49
Of course it is...but it wouldnt make sense to stop it.
Apr 26th 2020
56
Screws the Cali teams and most of the Eastern play-off teams
Apr 26th 2020
50
Feels pointless
Apr 26th 2020
51
basically...
Apr 26th 2020
52
I think it feels more pointless not to have closure to the season
Apr 26th 2020
53
Players and owners want to continue so i'd be shocked
Apr 26th 2020
54
      as usual, it's all about the money
Apr 26th 2020
55
           Yup. I could see something quick starting in June.
Apr 26th 2020
57
           And wrap under the guise of "pride"
Apr 26th 2020
58
           Yup - but it's also about not wanting this year to be for nothing
Apr 28th 2020
64
                understood, but it's kind of zero sum
Apr 28th 2020
69
                     Great points - but basketball games can be staged relatively easily
Apr 29th 2020
74
                          Oh I agree, definitely think it's still possible
Apr 29th 2020
75
The NBA has rescheduled its' practice facility reopening to
Apr 27th 2020
59
what exactly would they have in place to make sure it doesnt spread
Apr 27th 2020
60
Um, why did the Lakers apply for the Paycheck Protection Program?
Apr 27th 2020
61
https://i.imgur.com/zlyGobt.gif
Apr 28th 2020
63
I think with some of these larger organizations their financial people.....
Apr 28th 2020
65
Re: jumping the line
Apr 28th 2020
70
RE: Um, why did the Lakers apply for the Paycheck Protection Program?
Apr 28th 2020
67
because cloaks ain't cheap.
May 10th 2020
77
Damn, RIP Sebastian Telfair's mother and brother
Apr 28th 2020
62
damn, peace to Bassy, I was a huge stan back in the day
Apr 28th 2020
66
awful news :(
Apr 28th 2020
68
damn, man...how do you even go on?
May 11th 2020
79
France has cancelled all sports until September.
Apr 29th 2020
71
Meanwhile Germany's still planning to reopen the Bundesliga
Apr 29th 2020
72
That's because their season *been* over
Apr 29th 2020
73
So if they resume sans fans which players you think benefit from being i...
May 09th 2020
76
It's quite likely that the season will resume
May 10th 2020
78
Woj: Attendees left Board of Governors call w/ Adam Silver today feeling...
May 12th 2020
80
Adam Silver told those on the NBA’s Board of Governors call Tuesday th...
May 13th 2020
81

Ryan M
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1. "It's minimum 30 days, and no. "
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2. "nah I want a little warmup for the playoffs"
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3. "RE: nah I want a little warmup for the playoffs"
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What warmup is there to do, we pretty much know who is who and what is what. It's only one more month of basketball to be played.

If they do resume in 4 weeks, I can't see them playing all 30 missed games. It will have to be truncated or reformatted.

  

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17. "They'll need a week or two of games to get back up to speed"
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Sun Mar-15-20 03:41 PM by Cocobrotha2

          

Bulk of the players are not gonna be doing shit during this hiatus so they'll need a little bit of time to get back in the groove.

Throw them straight into the playoffs and you're gonna have a bunch of rock-fight games and the Bucks losing in the first round.

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4. "Moot point. This shit ain't getting resolved in a month."
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And then you think, well, how about in the summer? Let's say July. How do you play either the final part of the season and the playoffs or even just the playoffs and then start up again in October? What do you do with the draft?

My guess is that the NBA, NHL and NCAA just lost their championships this year.

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5. "Right, it"s a wrap. "
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>And then you think, well, how about in the summer? Let's say
>July. How do you play either the final part of the season and
>the playoffs or even just the playoffs and then start up again
>in October? What do you do with the draft?
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>My guess is that the NBA, NHL and NCAA just lost their
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6. "RE: Moot point. This shit ain't getting resolved in a month."
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You make some good points, some really good points, especially with the draft.

I'm just being optimistic, and I know how serious it is, but if it does reverse, and the new cases start to decrease, and not increase, they will resume the season.

However, if it goes into June, then I would probably say that is a wrap. But If they are back up in April or May, we will have some sort of playoff format.

Soccer and basketball hits hard, because of the frequency of games and matches compared to football which is just played weekly.

  

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8. "Yeah agree"
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12. "Bumping back the draft isn't a *huge* deal, I don't think."
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But you're right that it starts to become a logistical nightmare the later they'd bump.

*Maybe* if this thing is over by May (it almost certainly won't be), they could go straight to the playoffs-- or even do some sort of truncated playoffs with the top 4 teams from each conference. I'm sure they *want* to do something, not just for tradition but for revenue. And even if it ends a little later and they push back the draft and the Summer League by 2-4 weeks, I don't think it'd be the end of the world logistically.

It's just a matter of if they feel confident that everything is getting better by then and if they feel like going through the logistical rigamarole that planning all of this would entail. And I... am skeptical that that combination of things can be overridden.

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13. ":(((((((("
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14. "i think its more likely that they finish this year AND start next season..."
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vs. scrapping this year to start next on time.

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9. "they should let every team in the playoffs and seed em."
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then go single elimination. march madness style.

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10. "Fuck around and have Cleveland win it all against ATL"
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15. "that would be epic and the only way harden could get a ring lol"
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>then go single elimination. march madness style.

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The season already got an asterisk, go for it.

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19. "Plus Silver is trying to tinker with an in season tournament etc"
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this would be the perfect lab to test it out in

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21. "yup shit wont really count anyway. at least make it memorable."
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imagine watching a cinderella run in the nba playoffs.

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33. "this would be my vote if it did come back"
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11. "If they resume (and they will because $$$...don't be fooled)"
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It'll be like 5-10 games, then the playoffs. They might consider not having fans attend at first but they are going to play televised games either way for that TV $$$.

Prolly won't start until June. The first round might be 'old-schooled' and be best of 5.

It'll run into early/mid July. And then they'll decide how to handle the Olympics if the Olympics still happen.

I'm assuming they might bi-pass even if they are held.

Then from July through end of August you'd get Draft, FA, etc.

Then they'd get a month off, shorten preseason for next yr and back to business as usual. Maaaaaaaybe a slight delay to the start of next season.

But anyone thinking owners and players will sit at home until late Sept/Oct is kidding themselves. Per Woj, owners are already in Silver's ear about playing after 30 days.

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20. "We need to disabuse ourselves of any notion that it's coming back..."
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....this season. We're due for another panic point in a week at the most. Once the tests start to get out there and we get a better picture of just how many people have the virus, plus more people start dying, it's going change the national conversation even more drastically. If nothing else, it'll solidify that the country is going to be on lock for about 8 weeks if we're lucky. And after, I really, really doubt there'll be any talk of trying to hold the play-offs.

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22. "Basically. n/m"
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23. "You underestimate the power of $$$$"
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28908729/sources-owners-execs-bracing-mid-late-june-best-case-scenario-nba-return

They are going to play this out. Whenever the CDC says it's ok.

They had already played 80% of the regular season. Yeah, lotto squads might be out but the playoffs will happen. They might allow for 5 warm up games prior to. Then likely do a 5-7-7-7 format for the Summer.

Olympics might be off the table for some NBA teams but they still might be able to field a squad for those from the lotto/eliminated teams. Gives them a few weeks to practice in July. Maybe time for a warm up game or two.

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25. "you underestimate the stupidity of Americans"
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there are still millions of people who aren't taking community spread seriously, and won't until everything is shut down

people are still travelling between cities and states, getting on planes, hanging out at beaches, congregating on the streets

its going to get far worse and the people who will pay most dearly are those on the front lines: hospital workers, emts, service workers, drivers...

we haven't seen anything yet. basketball isn't coming back this year.

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employer values $$$ over our safety.

So I can see first hand how corporate greed >>> human life.

While government might require us to all sit home for a while at some point, as soon as the teams can play, they will. May not be in front of audiences but that TV money means A LOT to them.

The article spells it out. The NBA intends to finish the season at some point this summer.

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if you're really the smartest person in the room like you seem to think you are.

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27. "Some of you are so miserable that you should figure out a way"
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to be less of a irritant to other people. Maybe quarantine and less contact with the outside world is exactly what you need. Cancel your internet and do some self reflection.

But you likely won't because your inflated sense of superior opinion makes you unable to see your own faults and burden to the general public. When the truth is, you're just an asshole with an opinion like everybody else.

*shrug*

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35. "lol damn."
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>to be less of a irritant to other people. Maybe quarantine
>and less contact with the outside world is exactly what you
>need. Cancel your internet and do some self reflection.
>
>But you likely won't because your inflated sense of superior
>opinion makes you unable to see your own faults and burden to
>the general public. When the truth is, you're just an asshole
>with an opinion like everybody else.
>
>*shrug*

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39. "that suggestion really bothered the shit out of you."
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so you already know the truth, cool.

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24. "I think it's more likely that they postpone '20/'21 season"
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or amend the 20/21 season to be shorter (which Silver has been considering anyway - so this could be a beta test shortened season) than cancelling the '20 playoffs altogether.

Wouldn't the priority be to not have this season be a complete wash than to prioritize starting next season on time?

Seems playoffs/finals are much more valued/important than starting next year's regular season on-schedule.


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31. "that's what I think/am hoping the leagues do"
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Come back in June/July (hopefully), shortened season -> playoffs -> shorten next season by a month or two.

  

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29. "4 Nets got it. This season is done"
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30. "Silver on prospects of a return (ESPN)"
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32. "Yeah, they are thinking of just making the season run Dec/Jan"
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Through July/August. Said then they don't have to compete with NFL 2021 forward.

Also gives them some room to wait out the shut down and start back up in July with no pressure.

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34. "I don't see it. I don't see anything resuming for at least 5 months"
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The way US hospitals are becoming overwhelmed,and major operations are being suspended or canceled, I just don't see.

We are talking about 2 months to POSSIBLY get the curve down, and then if we do get the curve down, it will take probably another 3-5 months just to get businesses and corporations back into meaningful operation. After that, you have to get people to feel safe and secure with returning back to normal.



  

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36. "Fam we gotta start taking about the nfl season being impacted"
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Not the actual 16 game season I don’t think. But the workouts, training camps etc.

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37. "Yeah Goodell seems to be delusional about this whole thing"
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Threatening employees for criticizing the decision to keep going with the draft.

This shit isnt going to be gone anytime soon

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38. "that shyt goin to return right in time for the 2nd wave of outbreaks"
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45. "as more time goes on this reply gets scarier and scarier "
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40. "can we just agree to ignore allstah posts"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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41. "I’m not sure how they could have the season at this point."
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Based on information provided on espn, the league is still contemplating having players
play behind closed doors if the CDC gives the okay on easing back restrictions in May. I think that’s just optimistic talk.

Maybe Baseball and Football have a shot at playing this year, but, right now, it looks like the current NBA season is dead. The US extended the lockdown date, and even China has yet to resume its CBA league, and they have been locked down for close to 3 months.

Also, Germany is going to resume its biggest sport. Soccer players have returned to practice and they plan on playing games behind closed doors. This will be the first country to resume sports during the pandemic. You know American sports leagues will be monitoring closely, and will definitely have an effect on their restart strategies.

We shall see. That’s all we can do.

Hope everyone is staying safe.

  

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42. "This HORSE is so trash"
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I'm getting so deuterate I was actually looking forward to it

  

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43. "Lol they tried....i feel like some sort of shootout contest woulda worke..."
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Better. Like a different 3pt contest.

HORSE is not a spectator sport

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44. "It was cute and harmless. A net positive. And not really about hoop."
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46. "Woj: Beginning on May 1, the NBA is allowing teams to open their practic..."
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Beginning on May 1, the NBA is allowing teams to open their practice facilities to players in cities and states where local governments have eased stay-at-home orders, sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1254168619761704962

  

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47. "RE: Woj: Beginning on May 1, the NBA is allowing teams to open their pra..."
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So Los Angeles, Milwaukee, Chicago, and New York are screwed? Chicago has extended its lockdown until the middle or end of May.

  

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48. "Makes sense"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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49. "sounds like an unfair advantage for some teams."
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56. "Of course it is...but it wouldnt make sense to stop it."
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If they didnt use the team's facilities players could still gather at a local gym. They'd still have an unfair advantage.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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50. "Screws the Cali teams and most of the Eastern play-off teams"
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I don't think Utah ever went to shelter in place. Even if places like Texas and Florida and still sheltering, I'm sure the governors of both Texas and Florida would give exemptions to anyone who wants to do anything.

Even if Cali stops sheltering in place sometime in MayJune, no way Newsom allows games to go on here, even in an empty arena.

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51. "Feels pointless"
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This season is a wrap. A 2+ month break in the middle of the season - you can’t finish that season IMO. Start prepping for 2021, when it’s deemed safe to do so.

  

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52. "basically..."
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>This season is a wrap. A 2+ month break in the middle of the
>season - you can’t finish that season IMO. Start prepping
>for 2021, when it’s deemed safe to do so.

  

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53. "I think it feels more pointless not to have closure to the season"
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Perhaps they won't finish out the reg. season - but I see them having some sort of a playoff/finals finale to the season - and starting next season late - than just scrapping this year altogether.

  

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54. "Players and owners want to continue so i'd be shocked"
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If they dont.

They can always start the next season late

They already throwing out xmas 2020 as the latest start date.

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55. "as usual, it's all about the money"
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players, owners and the league will lose millions if not trillions (combined) by not finishing the season.

The rational thing to do is just cancel it. NBA & NHL hadn't even started the playoffs yet. Who cares if you cancel now?

But b/c of the money, they're not going to give up.

  

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57. "Yup. I could see something quick starting in June. "
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Or Mid may.

  

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58. "And wrap under the guise of "pride""
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64. "Yup - but it's also about not wanting this year to be for nothing"
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These players put a ton of work in and have played ~3/4ths of a season - to just say it "nah forget it" instead of trying to salvage the playoffs doesn't make much sense (either financially or from a sport/competitive perspective).

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69. "understood, but it's kind of zero sum"
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as things stand right now*, you can either cancel the season (or "postpone indefinitely") which is by far the responsible thing to do for public health, and for all the other people who will get infected from sports reopening (even in empty stadiums) (cooks, cleaners, bus drivers, laundry attendants, hundreds or thousands of people)

Or you can play out the season so that the 3/4ths played already doesn't go for nothing.

But you can't reopen AND not create new infection vectors for people who would otherwise be safe(r).

Trust me, as Liverpool fan (who 2 wins away from their first title in 30(!) years), I understand the instinct. But it's just not the right thing to do.

Also that second option is classic example of sunk cost fallacy.

*maybe we get a miracle vaccine, maybe it turns out face masks are way more effective than we thought they were, maybe Donald Trump gets deposed and we get a federal government that's even 1/10th as competent as places like Hong Kong and China.

I'm not holding my breath.

as long as the R-naught is above 1, we are fucked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number

  

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74. "Great points - but basketball games can be staged relatively easily"
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It won't be what people are used to (packed arenas with thousands of screaming fans) - but unlike the NFL or Soccer - you can stage a glorified scrimmage (with no fans) in a very controlled setting that isn't open-air. You'd also have to have testing mechanisms in place on a day-to-day basis and other hurdles.

I think the question of whether that would even be worth it (or feel even remotely close to actual game-play) is another thing - but if you're the NBA - you have to explore every avenue possible within acceptable parameters.

Also - state laws are going to vary drastically. For example - California has signaled a much stricter policy with regards to public gatherings/large events than Florida. So the lack of uniformity will also present challenges.

It's a mess - but there may still be a potential to resume play in some capacity - just not at the level that we've grown accustomed to.


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75. "Oh I agree, definitely think it's still possible"
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and as far as english soccer, am praying for it every day.

But the things the US needs in place for it to happen seem depressingly far off, starting with the pathetic testing capacity the US is currently at.

  

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59. "The NBA has rescheduled its' practice facility reopening to "
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May 8th, and even that date is highly contingent on the continuing observation of the trajectory of Covid-19.

My take from this is that the majority of people in the NBA still are not comfortable with resuming basketball operations.


  

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60. "what exactly would they have in place to make sure it doesnt spread"
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like it did before they shut the league down?

these arent quarantined practice facilities in the hypothetical bubble cities. these are buildings where athletes come and go as they please while interacting with other human beings outside on a daily basis.

theyre gonna have these dudes in ‘reopened’ cities breathing and rubbing up on each other and just pray for a better outcome than before?

nobody is wondering why leagues in other countries havent resumed things?

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61. "Um, why did the Lakers apply for the Paycheck Protection Program?"
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I know they returned the $4.6 million, and the federal government is a joke for giving it to them, but why the fuck did they apply for it in the first place?

This goes for any NBA franchise who applied for the loans, not just one of the most profitable franchises. Shame on any org. that did this.

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63. "https://i.imgur.com/zlyGobt.gif"
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https://i.imgur.com/zlyGobt.gif

I'm not surprised or even upset they applied. If you meet the criteria, you should try to get it. There are people who weren't affected by COVID (i.e. still regularly employed) that are accepting stimulus checks even though the checks are supposed to provide relief from the virus' impacts.

I think the bigger question is why did large orgs like NBA franchises and bigger companies jump to the front of the line and get their loans while most actual small businesses were left empty handed.

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65. "I think with some of these larger organizations their financial people....."
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are in the background scrambling to get whatever funds they can and not really thinking about the PR ramifications

  

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70. "Re: jumping the line"
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I apologize in advance for being a technical nerd but

tl;dr: the entire thing was set up to prioritize bigger orgs, even in a "small business" agenda.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/04/why-dont-we-just-provide-an-emergency-basic-income-to-businesses.html

“The structure of the compensation (as well as the incentives banks face in general) meant they prioritized larger and wealthier clients in access to the funds. This was worsened by the structure of the fees, which should have been lump sum amounts (or even provided greater compensation for processing smaller dollar loans) but instead provided compensation based on percentages of loan size. This created the obvious incentive to focus energy on processing large loans for big clients rather than small clients. As if all this wasn’t enough, Small Business Administration rules meant that the 500 employee limit applied per establishment and not per business as a whole so a number of medium sized businesses were able to get access. “

  

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67. "RE: Um, why did the Lakers apply for the Paycheck Protection Program?"
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They have less than 300 employees, so they qualified for the plan. When they found out that other small businesses didn’t receive funding, due to the PPP being exhausted of funds, they returned the money.

The lakers are a business ,and the majority of the people on a sports team’s payroll are service workers. With no revenue coming in due to stay at home orders, it’s a huge financial burden to pay those workers.

You have to think of the hundreds of workers who make a living selling food and beverages, being aisle ushers , working security, supervising and superintending the arena, as well as providing janitorial services.

They wouldn’t have been wrong had they kept the money, so that was a tremendous humanitarian effort on their part.

  

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77. "because cloaks ain't cheap."
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<----- Long Live The King

  

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62. "Damn, RIP Sebastian Telfair's mother and brother"
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Both died due to COVID-19. Dan passed a few weeks ago, and Erica succumbed just recently. Awful.

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66. "damn, peace to Bassy, I was a huge stan back in the day"
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68. "awful news :("
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79. "damn, man...how do you even go on? "
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71. "France has cancelled all sports until September. "
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That's a wrap. Basketball is not going to happen here. Golden State said they are operating as if their season is over.


  

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72. "Meanwhile Germany's still planning to reopen the Bundesliga"
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I don't get it.

  

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73. "That's because their season *been* over"
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>That's a wrap. Basketball is not going to happen here. Golden
>State said they are operating as if their season is over.

Real easy to make that declaration when you tanked all season long.

  

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76. "So if they resume sans fans which players you think benefit from being i..."
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I could definitely see the environment causing different people to play better or worse. Andrew Wiggins seems like one of those guys that may have a different mentality. Bron obviously already can take over any game but in an empty gym i could see him destroying dudes mentally.

  

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78. "It's quite likely that the season will resume"
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but it will look nothing like what we've grown accustomed to. Latest is that their discussing implementing protocols that they believe won't just affect the remainder of this season - but will go well into next season as well. So hosting games in Nevada & Florida in strictly controlled settings - sans fans - seems to be what they're preparing for through 2021.

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80. "Woj: Attendees left Board of Governors call w/ Adam Silver today feeling..."
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ESPN Sources: Attendees left Board of Governors call w/ Adam Silver today feeling positive about momentum toward an NBA return to play this season. Discussion included how league/players will need to get comfortable w/ some positive tests for virus not shutting down a resumption

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1260378678149644289

  

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81. "Adam Silver told those on the NBA’s Board of Governors call Tuesday th..."
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Adam Silver told those on the NBA’s Board of Governors call Tuesday that if a positive test would "shut us down, we probably shouldn't go down this path,” sources said.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1260537339874590727

  

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