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Cold Truth
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"Can we do a Kobe Memorial post?"


  

          

All Star Weekend is coming, as is the playoffs/finals.

The tragedy, and their memory, will loom large throughout the rest of this season. Much more will be discussed in the media, in ways that differ from the immediate aftermath.

We've established that Kobe's was a life, career, and death that had a profound impact on this board. Him and AI were the lifeblood of this forum until Brawn came through and crushed the buildings (c).

His life, career, and legacy certainly has unsavory elements, and those are certainly fair to discuss in appropriate ways. But his overall legacy is immense, particularly when we look at the work he was beginning to do in the women's game.

The TMZ death post is not, imo, the best forum to discuss his life and memory going forward, and neither is the official Lakers season thread. I do not think it's inappropriate to have a separate post to begin to digest this loss now that the initial shock has resided, and his legacy begins to take center stage in the second half of this season.

So I propose we have a separate post, this post, as that memorial.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
MVPau finally speaks.
Feb 13th 2020
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RE: Can we do a Kobe Memorial post?
Feb 14th 2020
2
Well, ok. Here goes.
Feb 14th 2020
3
man, of all the Kobe-related things I'll remember
Feb 16th 2020
4
      That final game is much more special in light of his death
Feb 16th 2020
5
The man created book series.
Feb 18th 2020
6
Absolutely incredible, POWERFUL memorial.
Feb 24th 2020
7
I saw bits and pieces, technical difficulties broke in several times
Feb 24th 2020
8
Man, listen... I'm watching a 7 minute clip on ESPN right now.
Feb 24th 2020
9
Jordan talking about Kobe and being the best big brother is... ahhhhh!
Feb 24th 2020
10
Is someone cutting onions?
Feb 24th 2020
11
I hate this. all of it. this is some bullshit.
Feb 24th 2020
12
when Vanessa said “we’re still the best team” I just lost it
Feb 24th 2020
13
Cheese Eyes conceding that he's The Meme was hilarious
Feb 26th 2020
14
Lakers to honor Kobe Bryant with 'Black Mamba' jerseys...
Aug 24th 2020
15
Vanessa’s IG post was crushing
Aug 24th 2020
16
Jonathan Abrams Honors the 10-Year Anniversary of Kobe’s Final Champio...
Sep 22nd 2020
17
Vanessa Bryant being sued by her mother...
Dec 18th 2020
18
probably other greedy relatives behind the scenes pushing this
Dec 18th 2020
19
breh, she want backpay...
Dec 18th 2020
20
      there's probably a lot more to this story than we'll ever know
Dec 18th 2020
22
to me, the C word is reserved for especially severe cases. Like this one...
Dec 18th 2020
21
it be ya own kind...
Dec 18th 2020
23
      they probably did, and I just missed it...
Dec 18th 2020
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Cold Truth
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1. "MVPau finally speaks."
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This one killed me.

https://youtu.be/I9d9IjRSUCI

  

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ThaTruth
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2. "RE: Can we do a Kobe Memorial post?"
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https://www.facebook.com/losangeleslakers/videos/10156593273860341/UzpfSTE0NDkxNzA1NTM0MDpWSzoxMDE1NjU5MzI3Mzg2MDM0MQ/

  

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Ryan M
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3. "Well, ok. Here goes."
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I don't really remember when I first heard the name Kobe Bryant, but it was obviously inescapable in Los Angeles in 1996.

Right now, weeks later, you're still hearing tributes on the radio, seeing RIP KOBE on every city bus, and the numbers 8, 24, and 2 everywhere you go in LA. Post Michael Jackson, I didn't think there'd be a bigger celebrity death ever. This is the one. It coming out of nowhere, in such strange circumstances, while he was still so visible in the city is just devastating.

Like most, I've spent a lot of time watching Kobe highlights. I did that a lot before all this, but I've watched things I'd forgotten about.

So, in no order, here are just some memories I have of his career that make me smile every time:

1. The first game after the Pau trade was something. I remember where I was when I read about it on here (rjc27 where you at), and knowing it'd change the team in a huge way. But there were 2 moments in the trade that I laugh at - the first was an interview where the trade was official, but Pau hadn't yet suited up. Kobe was trying SO hard to hide his elation. He was trying to hide the smile. The other was the first game Pau played and Kobe screamed, "Si, si me gusta!!!"

Hiding the smiles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-_x_AshiwY
Si Si Me Gusta: https://youtu.be/BYJeYtsUcco?t=110

2. Lakers-Phoenix playoff series, 2006. Kobe was on another level that year but nobody thought they could beat the Suns. We know what happened, but in Game 4 - I was in a packed living room and we must have watched that ending 50 times. This is pre Youtube so I think all I had was the linear TV replays and then downloadable video files on LakersGround.net. The finish to that game is one of my most cherished Laker memories, despite them losing the series, oddly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACZnF87Iy84

3. 2008 Olympics where Kobe took over on a team full of talent but who'd had the "Redeem Team" badge on them and the Lebrons, Melos, CP3, Deron Williams, etc were perhaps a little too green and hadn't really matured to the place they would eventually get to - and Kobe just said fuck it I'm not losing. That Spain team was really damn good, and the US obviously should have won but it was incredible to see Kobe, fresh off a brutal finals loss, take over.

4. AMENESTY THAT - https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/02/24/kobe-bryant-highlights-los-angeles-lakers-dallas-mavericks/1943373/

5. The painful year of the first season post Shaq and Kobe trying to become a leader. It was so dreadful to watch, but I remember thinking he was trying so hard and it was hilarious.

6. All the fucking Okayplayer posts about him. The heated debates. Willie Winguy. Who amongst you, etc? I mean - what a time that was. It was so fun. It was as if he knew he had people arguing on the internet about him and he gave each side ammo to keep going. Hilarious.

7. The 81 point game and the last game were great but I thought his best game in the regular season ever was the 62 points in 3 quarters against the Mavs. Just an unreal performance.

I dunno man, I could keep going but this one still hurts bad. I went to the Lakers/Spurs game last week and it's just weird all around. It still doesnt feel real and I can't imagine what people who actually knew him feel right now.




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2020 NBA Champions

  

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4. "man, of all the Kobe-related things I'll remember"
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>6. All the fucking Okayplayer posts about him. The heated
>debates. Willie Winguy. Who amongst you, etc? I mean - what a
>time that was. It was so fun. It was as if he knew he had
>people arguing on the internet about him and he gave each side
>ammo to keep going. Hilarious.

This is near the top. I fuckin' loved reading the posts from frustrated Laker fans over the years. I felt that way on Kobe's last game and still feel that way today, even now if thinking about it overall makes me sad there's always a laugh thinking about theeraser or LBs Finest going in on Kobe detractors.

lowkey, y'all helped me buy that condo in Kobestan.

  

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Cold Truth
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5. "That final game is much more special in light of his death"
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At least for me.

I said it at the time, but that game was basically a microcosm of his career, showcasing both the brilliant and frustrating elements of his game. For me, the roller coaster of that game embodied exactly what it was like to be a fan of Kobe Bryant throughout his career. The good, bad, ugly, and breathtaking.

It was an exhilarating experience, and that's what it was like being a devoted fan for twenty years: an experience.

  

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6. "The man created book series."
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Like, who does that a few years after excelling in a professional sport?

He was a Hall of Famer after the first three peat, an all timer after the back to back, so everything following 2010 was just icing.

To make this pivot, though, in art and in business, with such clear indicators that he was going to alter the landscape, and such mature devotion to his family....made you believe in fairy tales for a minute.

Then someone ripped the book in half.

  

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Ryan M
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7. "Absolutely incredible, POWERFUL memorial."
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Kimmel. Beyonce. Shaq. Jordan. Alicia. Christina.

But nobody better than Vanessa.

Wow.

How amazing.

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'19-'20 Bubble Lakers

X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X

2020 NBA Champions

  

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Beamer6178
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8. "I saw bits and pieces, technical difficulties broke in several times"
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I will rewatch at home where I can cry in peace. Shit.

  

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9. "Man, listen... I'm watching a 7 minute clip on ESPN right now. "
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>But nobody better than Vanessa.
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>Wow.
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>How amazing.

Seeing these folks tear up and listening to her talk about Gigi got me dropping a couple thug tears myself.

Now, she's talking about Kobe.

I'll never get used to saying or hearing "Kobe was."

--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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10. "Jordan talking about Kobe and being the best big brother is... ahhhhh!"
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DAMN!

Too much man.

Still struggling with it.

--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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11. "Is someone cutting onions?"
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I gotta come back at a later date to send off the goat. I got through three minutes of that memorial before I had to shut it off cause it was too much...

Rip

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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Cold Truth
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12. "I hate this. all of it. this is some bullshit."
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I'm still in disbelief.

Vanessa killed me man. Pardon the pun I guess... but that shit..

  

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13. "when Vanessa said “we’re still the best team” I just lost it "
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14. "Cheese Eyes conceding that he's The Meme was hilarious"
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15. " Lakers to honor Kobe Bryant with 'Black Mamba' jerseys..."
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Yesterday was his birthday and today(8.24) is Kobe Bryant Day...

http://www.nba.com/article/2020/08/24/lakers-kobe-bryant-gigi-bryant-patch-jersey

  

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16. "Vanessa’s IG post was crushing "
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when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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17. "Jonathan Abrams Honors the 10-Year Anniversary of Kobe’s Final Champio..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQhUvg5sFaM&t=68s

  

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18. "Vanessa Bryant being sued by her mother..."
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money, man...damn.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30545644/vanessa-bryant-widow-kobe-bryant-condemns-lawsuit-mother-seeking-back-pay-support

Vanessa Bryant, widow of Kobe Bryant, condemns lawsuit from mother
LOS ANGELES -- Vanessa Bryant, the widow of Kobe Bryant, has denounced a lawsuit from her mother claiming she is owed years of pay for working as an unpaid assistant and support promised by the basketball legend, who was killed in a helicopter crash in January.

Bryant issued a statement Thursday saying her mother was trying to "extort a financial windfall," the Los Angeles Times reported.

The 48-page lawsuit filed by Sofia Urbieta Laine, 68, claims that Kobe Bryant "promised to take care" of her for life.

"Unfortunately, Kobe Bryant's promise did not see the light of day as he is now deceased and Vanessa Bryant took each and every step she could to void and cancel all of Kobe's promises," the lawsuit claims, asserting that Vanessa Bryant never intended to honor those wishes.

Kobe Bryant, 13-year-old daughter Gianna and seven others died Jan. 26 when their helicopter crashed in the hills of Calabasas. Financial experts estimate Vanessa Bryant inherited control of an estate worth up to $600 million, the Times reported.

Vanessa Bryant's statement said she and her husband allowed her mother to live for free in one of their properties on the Newport Beach coast but never promised her anything or discouraged her from providing for herself.

"She was a grandmother who was supported by me and her son-in-law at my request," Vanessa Bryant said. "She now wants to back charge me $96 per hour for supposedly working 12 hours a day for 18 years for watching her grandchildren. In reality, she only occasionally babysat my older girls when they were toddlers."

Vanessa Bryant said that earlier this year she began looking for a new home for her mother and that her mother gave a TV interview in which she claimed she was being forced out of her home and to return a luxury car.

"Even after that betrayal, I was willing to provide my mother with monthly support for the rest of her life, and that wasn't good enough," Vanessa Bryant said. "She, instead, contacted me through intermediaries -- contrary to what she claims, my phone number hasn't changed -- and demanded $5 million, a house and a Mercedes SUV."

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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19. "probably other greedy relatives behind the scenes pushing this"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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20. "breh, she want backpay..."
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for 12 hour days at $96 an hour, for 18 years!!!

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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22. "there's probably a lot more to this story than we'll ever know"
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"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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21. "to me, the C word is reserved for especially severe cases. Like this one..."
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Imagine your daughter's daughter died then you sue your daughter.
Rot in hell.

  

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23. "it be ya own kind..."
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Fri Dec-18-20 02:17 PM by CyrenYoung

  

          

..Considering the fallout we all witnessed btwn Kobe & his parents when he 1st married Vanessa, I'm disappointed but not surprised.

Entitlement is a motherfucker.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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24. "they probably did, and I just missed it..."
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but, man I hope Kob and his parents reconciled.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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