1. "RE: Anyone watch Vick 30 for 30? The " In response to Reply # 0
It’s really hard for me to watch that. I refuse. My perception is that, even though it’s a documentary regarding what he has endured, and what he is still enduring, it’s in the past.
The man paid his dues. He served his time and made up for his criminal action.
2. "RE: Anyone watch Vick 30 for 30? The " In response to Reply # 1
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It’s really hard for me to watch that. I refuse. My perception is that, even though it’s a documentary regarding what he has endured, and what he is still enduring, it’s in the past.
The man paid his dues. He served his time and made up for his criminal actions, regardless of how horrific his actions were. And he is doing everything within his power and being to fight against violent and abusive behavior towards animals.
However, everyone is entitled to volition, so there are people who will never forget or forgive. And some people feel that Vick and the doc does not disclose just how vicious and evil Vick was towards dogs ,and how he personally killed and tortured dogs.
One newspaper’s take: ( Vick as in Vick the documentary) “I nonetheless felt frustrated by Vick’s unwillingness to really hold its subject to account, instead letting his apologies remain vague and by the book. Nelson documents how the authorities found eight dead dogs at Vick’s Virginia property, some of which had been drowned and hung. But Vick avoids some of the darker specifics: That the player confessed, after a failed polygraph test, that he himself had helped kill some of those dogs. Or that one dog had reportedly been killed by being slammed back and forth on the ground until its neck shattered. Or that one of the surviving dogs the police found had had all 42 of her teeth pulled out, so she wouldn’t attack the male dogs used to breed with her.”
So I see their point of view as well. But once you realize how he was saturated in that culture through his upbringing, and how that was a way of life in his community, you realize that he was trained to be violent to dogs just like he trained dogs to be violent to other dogs. No human is a natural born killer.
not really interested in the dogfighting stuff but i'd love to revisit everything before it. i pretty much grew up w/ his career as an obsessed fan back at VT. so there won't be much new in there for me.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Mon Feb-10-20 10:34 PM
12. " My uncle was his lawyer " In response to Reply # 0
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Tue Feb-11-20 07:45 AM
14. "I tried to get the scoop but he won’t give up the details. " In response to Reply # 13
It’s the one thing he is extremely professional about when it comes to our relationship.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Tue Feb-11-20 12:47 PM
15. "Damn. I didn’t know he was going to get that much air time" In response to Reply # 14
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
16. "I couldn't believe they didn't mention Ronald Curry at all" In response to Reply # 0
Bottom line in that Hampton/Newport News area Curry was the man. I had never heard of Vick until he was at Virginia Tech that's how much Curry was the man. Curry was the national player of the year in football and basketball. I get it's a 30 for 30 for Vick but you can't tell the early story without mentioning Curry.
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