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Paps_Smear
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"OKPW: Wrestle Kingdom to Wrestlemania"


  

          

Haven't seen one of these in awhile so figured I'd start a new one since we're heading into the Royal Rumble to Wrestlemania season.

Kicking off the year on January 4th and 5th is the first ever two day Wrestle Kingdom event that will crown the first ever double champion (IWGP Heavyweight and Intercontinental).

Chris Jericho vs. Tanahashi, if Tana wins he gets to challenge for the AEW World Title. If AEW and NJPW form a working relationship this will be one of the biggest things that has happened in wrestling in some time.

Who do we have for Rumble winner this year?

What y'all been watching?

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Was at Smackdown last night
Jan 04th 2020
1
Did the night suffer from down time?
Jan 04th 2020
2
n/m
Jan 04th 2020
3
The main event suffered big time from it
Jan 04th 2020
6
      You’re in for a treat
Jan 04th 2020
7
I was at Smackdown 2 weeks ago
Jan 06th 2020
10
Night 1 is a wrap, Night 2 is tonight
Jan 04th 2020
4
^ No lies here.
Jan 04th 2020
8
Roman and Shayna to win the Rumble
Jan 04th 2020
5
I honestly don't know why any wrestler would want to go main rn
Jan 06th 2020
11
      Can you imagine what they'd (he'd) do to Keith Lee?
Jan 06th 2020
12
      Compare and contrast Sami and Cesaro NXT vs. Main
Jan 06th 2020
13
      Wouldn’t the pay still be a lot different?
Jan 06th 2020
15
           I don’t know anymore
Jan 06th 2020
16
WK Night 2
Jan 05th 2020
9
Fucking awesome
Jan 06th 2020
14
man they got my ass w/ this mystery tag partner for Joe/KO
Jan 06th 2020
17
Oh man, how did the live crowd react?
Jan 07th 2020
18
idk. i turned it off before i could hear the crowd pop.
Jan 07th 2020
19
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jan 07th 2020
20
NWA continues to be one of the purest things going
Jan 08th 2020
21
Better 3rd man: Scott Steiner or Big Show?
Jan 08th 2020
22
      WELL, MOST TIMES YOU GOT A 50-50 PERCENT CHANCE OF WINNING
Jan 08th 2020
23
      Better Steiner: Recliner or the Dog-faced Gremlin?
Jan 08th 2020
24
You don't even go here.
Jan 09th 2020
25
Tessa is a racist and your NEW IMPACT World Champion
Jan 13th 2020
26
y i k e s
Jan 13th 2020
27
Marty Scurll is head booker in ROH now too so no Elite Reunion
Jan 13th 2020
28
So Goldberg just beat the Fiend for the Universal Title in Saudi Arabia.
Feb 27th 2020
29
Lmao
Feb 27th 2020
30
Indeed.
Feb 27th 2020
31
I just saw a gif of that "jackhammer"
Feb 27th 2020
32
Man, at this point if someone is still watching
Feb 27th 2020
33
Well Tuesday been free unless you were an Impact guy
Feb 27th 2020
34
Proof I haven't cared in awhile
Feb 27th 2020
36
Yeah I watch Wednesday Night Dynamite every week
Feb 27th 2020
35
RE: Yeah I watch Wednesday Night Dynamite every week
Feb 27th 2020
37
      I'm not sure about this.
Feb 28th 2020
38
      Imagine Corbin beating Goldberg
Feb 28th 2020
39
      AEW is better than any WWE product out there
Feb 28th 2020
42
pretty much, I just laugh when I hear news like this
Feb 28th 2020
41
me and two friends recently made plans to attend Mania next year
Feb 28th 2020
40
AEW: Revolution
Feb 28th 2020
43
I think Jericho retains
Feb 29th 2020
44
Cody was in WWE
Feb 29th 2020
45
      Sure, but after a few years of operating with fresh paint
Feb 29th 2020
46
           Mox is blah
Mar 01st 2020
53
Darby is the guy they need to build to taking the title from Jericho
Feb 29th 2020
47
Accept me? Just asked. Tjeffries
Feb 29th 2020
49
      You got it
Feb 29th 2020
50
That was Tag Match of the Year worthy
Feb 29th 2020
48
i hope that match was a turning point
Mar 06th 2020
56
Freshly Fuckin’ Squeezed, BAY-BEE!!
Feb 29th 2020
51
No Pulp
Mar 02nd 2020
54
im trying SO hard :/ lol
Mar 06th 2020
55
Did u see the match??
Mar 06th 2020
57
i did, and hes athletically and technically impressive
Mar 06th 2020
60
      You should be entertained.
Mar 06th 2020
61
yeah, I’m not into him
Mar 06th 2020
62
      except this is well executed stuff with a guy who is slowly peeling back...
Mar 11th 2020
65
this is the guy everyone should show to non-fans
Mar 06th 2020
58
      Isn't this fake? (c) guy in Walking Dead tshirt and GoT ringtone
Mar 06th 2020
59
      Slight ammendment: we should show that match with Pac.
Mar 11th 2020
66
This inspired Jericho's entrance at Revolution
Mar 01st 2020
52
AAA and Stardom both have shows tonight
Mar 07th 2020
63
Re: this year’s Mania
Mar 08th 2020
64
RE: Re: this year’s Mania
Mar 11th 2020
RE: Re: this year’s Mania
Mar 11th 2020
67
      RE: Dream
Mar 11th 2020
68
I dont think Mania is gonna happen
Mar 11th 2020
69
XFL is cancelled and WrestleMania somehow isn't
Mar 13th 2020
70
Speculation is he's waiting on TB to cancel it
Mar 13th 2020
71
man wrestling is funny as fuck w/o fans
Mar 16th 2020
72
cant wait for Mania at the PC with no audience, gonna be a trip
Mar 16th 2020
73
you HAVE to see this stone cold segment though
Mar 16th 2020
74
      shit I gotta check wreddit for that
Mar 16th 2020
75
      it was like a bad trip that became a good one
Mar 17th 2020
81
man, I turned there and saw a RR rerun of Brock throwing
Mar 16th 2020
76
They should just air throwback Raws and SmackDowns
Mar 17th 2020
77
this reveals just how uninspired these people are
Mar 17th 2020
78
AEW might be a different story
Mar 17th 2020
79
they're usually at their best when they get a curveball
Mar 17th 2020
80
have they done a match where the fighters stay 6ft apart?
Mar 18th 2020
82
      lol, honestly i wouldnt even do a single in-ring match
Mar 19th 2020
91
so, simply, empty arena wrestling shows are ass
Mar 18th 2020
83
I dunno, I think they did a damn good job for it being an empty arena
Mar 18th 2020
84
yep. frankly there was very little to be down on
Mar 19th 2020
88
Jericho/Inner Circle had me LMAO
Mar 18th 2020
85
The lack of a crowd definitely hurt the main event.
Mar 19th 2020
89
I thought AEW’s show was great
Mar 18th 2020
86
“Ass” was a joke, but it’s hard to watch these shows without crowd...
Mar 19th 2020
90
      dont miss this AT ALL.
Mar 28th 2020
104
except Dynamite was a solid show from start to finish
Mar 19th 2020
87
Anyone catch that FCW doc on the Network?
Mar 19th 2020
92
RE: Anyone catch that FCW doc on the Network?
Mar 26th 2020
93
      Thanks man.
Mar 26th 2020
94
      RE: Thanks man.
Mar 26th 2020
96
           RE: Thanks man.
Mar 26th 2020
97
           i bet he laughs about how many people watch their show
Mar 30th 2020
107
      The whole DSotR show is captivating
Mar 26th 2020
95
Reigns out of Mania
Mar 26th 2020
98
It's Braun according to Dave
Mar 27th 2020
99
      RE: It's Braun according to Dave
Mar 27th 2020
100
      Yeah no way that match hits the 5 minute mark
Mar 27th 2020
101
           Also no way Goldberg can jackhammer the guy
Mar 27th 2020
102
      Right on the heels of him revealing what a piece of shit he is
Mar 27th 2020
103
           or because of lol
Mar 28th 2020
105
                Pretty much
Mar 28th 2020
106
Taker had an incredible promo last night
Mar 31st 2020
108
That was real good.
Apr 01st 2020
109
RE: Taker had an incredible promo last night
Apr 04th 2020
110
I do not like empty arena wrestling at all
Apr 04th 2020
111
This is so awful it’s funny. Fuckin Goldberg in an empty room
Apr 04th 2020
112
      RE: This is so awful it’s funny. Fuckin Goldberg in an empty room
Apr 05th 2020
116
           Hardy definitely set the stage for Taker/Styles, but theirs was better I...
Apr 05th 2020
117
the Taker/Styles match was really fun to watch
Apr 04th 2020
113
Will Undertaker be arrested?
Apr 04th 2020
114
RE: the Taker/Styles match was really fun to watch
Apr 04th 2020
115
i dunno if any of yall like "real" wrestling
Apr 05th 2020
118
Nice, I wrestled in high school and college
Apr 05th 2020
119
      i wrestled in high school, but i grew too damn fast
Apr 05th 2020
120
Otis got his kiss ;_;
Apr 05th 2020
121
That "match"...
Apr 05th 2020
122
incredible stuff
Apr 06th 2020
125
COVID-MANIA: they did alright (and even excelled in spots)
Apr 06th 2020
123
edit: Orton/Edge wasn't great, they just tried hard
Apr 06th 2020
124
Pleasantly surprised
Apr 06th 2020
126
RE: Pleasantly surprised
Apr 07th 2020
136
I wonder how the Funhouse match was received by "casuals"
Apr 06th 2020
127
      my friends that dont like wrasslin love the Funhouse stuff
Apr 06th 2020
128
      Did they see the Fun House match though?
Apr 06th 2020
131
           not sure. havent gotten a chance to show them yet
Apr 07th 2020
138
      RE: I wonder how the Funhouse match was received by "casuals"
Apr 06th 2020
129
      re: nWo part
Apr 06th 2020
130
           Maybe there's also a parallel between the rise of Hollywood
Apr 06th 2020
132
           RE: re: nWo part
Apr 06th 2020
133
                I mean, go check Cena’s Instagram
Apr 06th 2020
134
                spamming 13 Million followers...damn, good by John dude
Apr 07th 2020
137
                how did I not know he has an insane Instagram?
Apr 08th 2020
139
                     if I hadn't watched him on TV for 15 years, I'd think he was interesting
Apr 08th 2020
140
                makes more sense to just be a jab at his static persona
Apr 21st 2020
150
      How many casual fans are watching wrestling right now??
Apr 07th 2020
135
The Edge documentary
Apr 10th 2020
141
It was SO good. wonder if it happens if TK doesnt reach out.
Apr 10th 2020
142
deavors season has returned
Apr 15th 2020
143
The list keeps growing. Holy fuck.
Apr 15th 2020
144
      Rusev now too
Apr 15th 2020
145
           So far that’s just him hinting at it on Twitter
Apr 15th 2020
146
                RE: So far that’s just him hinting at it on Twitter
Apr 15th 2020
148
Snuka killed Nancy Argentino - just in case anyone forgot
Apr 15th 2020
147
RE: Snuka killed Nancy Argentino - just in case anyone forgot
Apr 19th 2020
149
finally finished watching wrestlemania and id say B-/C+
Apr 21st 2020
151
Schiavone and Jericho are the best doing it
Apr 22nd 2020
152
Jericho called him “Skavoni” tonight
Apr 22nd 2020
153
they paid Gronk to win the 24/7 title and then probably never wrestle
Apr 23rd 2020
154
Maybe he'll be the Es Deion.
Apr 23rd 2020
155
they'll be okay, now they have drake maverick's contract off the books!
Apr 23rd 2020
156
      yet hes still working
Apr 23rd 2020
157
so Dream is outchea sending dick pics to underage girls...
Apr 24th 2020
158
I really hope this isn't true
Apr 24th 2020
159
      RE: I really hope this isn't true
Apr 24th 2020
160
Taker is on Bill Simmons today. about 2 hr episode. good stuff
May 20th 2020
161
The Owen Hart DSOTR was devestating
May 20th 2020
162
how the Hart family acted is just insane to me.
May 21st 2020
164
RIP Shad Gaspard
May 20th 2020
163
AEW Double or Nothing
May 22nd 2020
165
Shows on
May 23rd 2020
167
RIP Hana Kimura
May 23rd 2020
166
Double or Nothing was a real roller coaster
May 24th 2020
168
if you haven't already, go check out the #SpeakingOut hashtag
Jun 19th 2020
169
you see jim Cornette and his wife are on some cuck #metoo shit?
Jun 19th 2020
170
Yeah dude, that’s some crazy shit
Jun 19th 2020
171
Velveteen Dream smh, so much for just being "hacked" in April
Jun 19th 2020
172
Y’all. I am so sorry for referring to Stroud’s opinions so much
Jun 29th 2020
186
      I was wondering why With Spandex had stalled the last week or so
Jun 30th 2020
187
anyone watch the Taker docs? Really good
Jun 22nd 2020
173
I actually started this today...
Jun 22nd 2020
174
      Its pretty great.
Jun 22nd 2020
175
           I think even this is as "work shoot" as it gets
Jun 22nd 2020
176
                Even with MAGA dripping from him
Jun 23rd 2020
180
Asuka got about as clean of a win as you can get vs Charlotte
Jun 23rd 2020
177
Good. I’m not anti-Charlotte like some corners of the Internet
Jun 23rd 2020
178
      Asuka is a better worker than all of the women except Charlotte
Jun 23rd 2020
179
      Becky got popular same way post piledriver Austin did
Jun 24th 2020
185
      I’m glad she’s off tv for a while. They were ODing with her
Jun 23rd 2020
181
Sasha Banks is doing incredible work right now.
Jun 24th 2020
182
New Japan Cup
Jun 24th 2020
183
I haven't been watching all of the matches
Jun 24th 2020
184
And the finals are...
Jul 05th 2020
188
New Japan Cup Finals Spoilers
Jul 11th 2020
189
Dominion Spoilers
Jul 12th 2020
190
      I would have never guessed!
Jul 12th 2020
191
           not in a million years
Jul 12th 2020
192
Streaming Impact Slammiversary 2020 tonight
Jul 18th 2020
193
do we still watch wrasslin? the 2 Woman Power Trip has been fun
Aug 10th 2020
194
I just listen to Keller's recaps, and read the WZ recaps.
Aug 11th 2020
195
Raw Underground has potential
Aug 11th 2020
196
Mostly AEW and NJPW
Aug 11th 2020
197
Same, and I play catch up on NXT
Aug 12th 2020
199
Nah. And I’m mad I’m missing Sasha’s run
Aug 11th 2020
198
RE: do we still watch wrasslin? the 2 Woman Power Trip has been fun
Aug 13th 2020
200
Ha. I just started up again. AEW for certain. Toying with NXT
Aug 20th 2020
201
      lack of fans makes AEWs TV better imo
Aug 21st 2020
202
      You missed peak NXT
Aug 22nd 2020
203
           Zayn vs Nakamura in NXT is best WWE match since Cena/Punk MITB
Aug 23rd 2020
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           RE: Zayn vs Nakamura in NXT is best WWE match since Cena/Punk MITB
Aug 23rd 2020
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           Yeah, I'd say it'd benefit from being only an hour
Aug 23rd 2020
205
SummerSlam didnt feel special AT ALL.
Aug 24th 2020
207
it was better than it had any business being
Sep 01st 2020
208
not sure if i'm hype about this 4 way ironman.
Sep 01st 2020
209
And of course, they went for the cop-out ending.
Sep 02nd 2020
210
      Wasn't a big fan of the match.
Sep 02nd 2020
211

MaxPtah
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1. "Was at Smackdown last night"
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Sat Jan-04-20 05:09 PM by MaxPtah

  

          

I've been more AEW lately. With the exception of the Kofi/Miz match everything fell flat. Something seemed off. I think I'm just more into going to a live Raw show than SD.

I got KO and Banks as the Rumble winners

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Paps_Smear
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2. "Did the night suffer from down time?"
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Last Raw and Smackdowns I've been to it felt way over produced. People would be in the middle of an entrance when they cut to commercial and they stood there halfway to the ring until they came back and continued their entrance, it was weird.

That plus the prices compared to other companies. I was ringside for AEW ppv for hundreds cheaper than a Raw or Smackdown.

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Paps_Smear
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3. " n/m"
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Sat Jan-04-20 05:42 PM by Paps_Smear

  

          

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MaxPtah
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6. "The main event suffered big time from it"
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Going to AEW next Wednesday, then an NXT house show on the 23rd. Think I'd have my fill of live events for the next few months lol

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Paps_Smear
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7. "You’re in for a treat"
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I’ve done NXT and AEW and it’s a far better paced experience.

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Ceej
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10. "I was at Smackdown 2 weeks ago"
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It was painful to get through.

They restarted the 3 way match 3 different times.

Commercials every 5 seconds.

Carmellas intro had to have played for 8 minutes straight.

Just a drag.

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4. "Night 1 is a wrap, Night 2 is tonight"
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As always I'll be streaming the show live at its start time tonight at 12am EST.

You can watch live here: https://s.kast.gg/g/8lf7lrmxzl


Night was was fantastic, but those last 3 matches. Good God they're already instant classics and we're just into the new year. Do yourself a favor and check out the Junior IWGP, Intercontinental, and IWGP Heavyweight title matches. I was out of my seat in the living room losing my shit early in the AM.

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8. "^ No lies here."
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>Do yourself a favor and check out the Junior IWGP,
>Intercontinental, and IWGP Heavyweight title matches. I was
>out of my seat in the living room losing my shit early in the
>AM.

I woke up early and watched it live about an hour into the main card so I saw everything after the end of the Bullet Club vs. CHAOS four-on-four match.

I liked the US Championship match also (more than the Intercontinental match) but the Junior Heavyweight and Heavyweight title bouts were incredible. THAT sequence in the Takahashi-Ospreay fight was...something. And I love that killer persona that comes out of Ibushi sometimes.

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5. "Roman and Shayna to win the Rumble"
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i'd like them to fast track Rhea Ripley but we'll see

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11. "I honestly don't know why any wrestler would want to go main rn"
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You're getting national exposure on NXT. You don't have to deal with Kreative. You don't have anywhere near the travel schedule (even if your NXT/NXT UK). You get to wrestle matches that go longer than 7 minutes. I mean, yeah, you'e not going to work Mania from NXT, unless you're in the Dre. But yeah, Rhea can work wars with Shirai and get the same sort of acclaim. Or she can be put in weird segments with fucking Natalya.

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12. "Can you imagine what they'd (he'd) do to Keith Lee?"
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Him and Otis would have a worm-off weekly.

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magilla vanilla
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13. "Compare and contrast Sami and Cesaro NXT vs. Main"
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Cesaro was the NXT Final Boss. Main roster, he's getting his nipples roasted by Cena.

Sami gets to be ultimate babyface in NXT. Epic 2 out of 3 vs. Cesaro. The match vs. Neville. Nak's best WWE match. Now? he's a manager in a company that doesn't like managers.

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DJR
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15. "Wouldn’t the pay still be a lot different?"
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Particularly for those getting on the Mania card, and getting decent matches on the other big PPVs?

I know the NXT wrestlers got a good look at Survivor Series, but it’s not going to be like that for all the PPVs is it?

  

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magilla vanilla
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16. "I don’t know anymore"
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Mon Jan-06-20 10:04 PM by magilla vanilla

  

          

I imagine the initial NXT deals are lower. But idk that Balor would have “dropped down” if it meant a significant pay cut. Especially now that they’re on cable and not network-only.

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9. "WK Night 2"
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WOW

Just wow

That main event was one of the best things I've seen in a very long time. The storytelling in that match was incredible. It's only January 5th and they raised that bar so high I'll be interested in seeing if anything else this year can top that.

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14. "Fucking awesome"
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A great couple nights that played out mostly how I expected but still kept me VERY entertained. I was a little nervous about how 2 nights would work, but now it's pretty clear it was necessary (and is BEYOND necessary for Mania). Would've preferred a singles match to end Jushin's career, but that's a nitpick. NJPW is still killing the entire game. Not even possible to compare anything else to it.

  

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17. "man they got my ass w/ this mystery tag partner for Joe/KO"
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i dead ass watched another hour of this shit just to see who it was, and i was actually excited to see who it might be, and then

"WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL-*turns off TV*

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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18. "Oh man, how did the live crowd react?"
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Feel like it's been at least a year since Big Show has been around so that may have helped a bit.

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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19. "idk. i turned it off before i could hear the crowd pop."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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20. "LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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>"WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL-*turns off TV*

  

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21. "NWA continues to be one of the purest things going"
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I didn't realize how good fucking Magnus has gotten at this, but man is he an excellent top delusional heel. The commentary has only gotten better now that Stu Bennett is in the chair. Dave Marquez is the best damn interview guy going. And Aron Stevens . . excuse me, Shooter Stevens and the Question Mark are DELIGHTFUL.

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22. "Better 3rd man: Scott Steiner or Big Show?"
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23. "WELL, MOST TIMES YOU GOT A 50-50 PERCENT CHANCE OF WINNING"
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BUT YOU LOOK AT BIG POPPA PUMP AND THE BIG SHOW AND YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE.

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24. "Better Steiner: Recliner or the Dog-faced Gremlin?"
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25. "You don't even go here."
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So good.

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26. "Tessa is a racist and your NEW IMPACT World Champion"
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27. "y i k e s"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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28. "Marty Scurll is head booker in ROH now too so no Elite Reunion "
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Looks like there will be some cross promoting with ROH and NWA.

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29. "So Goldberg just beat the Fiend for the Universal Title in Saudi Arabia."
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30. "Lmao"
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31. "Indeed."
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magilla vanilla
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32. "I just saw a gif of that "jackhammer""
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WOOF.

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33. "Man, at this point if someone is still watching"
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And keep getting upset at what they're doing, it's completely their fault.

I freed up my Monday and Tuesday nights and really only pay attention to NXT when it comes to their product.

AEW has entertained me far more and I'm actually invested in the story and matches.

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34. "Well Tuesday been free unless you were an Impact guy "
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36. "Proof I haven't cared in awhile"
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I forgot all about Smackdowns move to Friday nights.

At this point I've enjoyed Impact more.

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dagu
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35. "Yeah I watch Wednesday Night Dynamite every week"
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but I canceled my Network subscription some time ago. I put Smackdown on if I'm at home but I don't even bother watching the Raw and Smackdown recap videos anymore.

I wish NXT was on a different night though so I could watch it live; I just can't do full program replays when I already know what the results are.

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37. "RE: Yeah I watch Wednesday Night Dynamite every week"
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>but I canceled my Network subscription some time ago. I put
>Smackdown on if I'm at home but I don't even bother watching
>the Raw and Smackdown recap videos anymore.
>
>I wish NXT was on a different night though so I could watch it
>live; I just can't do full program replays when I already know
>what the results are.

I hate that Wyatt had to go out like this but some OP legend was basically the only way to have him lose a 1 on 1 deal after they booked him into a ridiculous no-sell corner. We’d be more annoyed if he got speared and jump punched to death by Reigns prolly. And now we get another Reigns title match. But at least this time the crowd will want him to win.

I rarely see much Raw. I don’t auto-record it anymore. I see enough to love the Street Profits and heel Rollins. I just don’t fuck with 3-hour Raws. They’re almost always stretching out a 2 hour show. It’s brutal. I occasionally ffwd through SD. I wish I liked it more cuz of some of the folks on the show but I don’t. I’ll usually catch a vid of whatever Bray is doing cuz it’s great work. I wish they would’ve let Matt Hardy have that type of title run. He would’ve been deleting folks and being ridiculous. And just like Bray, most of the matches would’ve ‘sucked’ but the character work would’ve been bang up.

I really like NXT. It’s surprising cuz I don’t have much deep love for most of the indy guys they have running wild there. I was never a big Adam Cole guy for instance. I remember seeing Gargano at an indy show on Mania Dallas weekend and I’m biased towards him now cuz he’s my new Sami Zayn. Now damn near everyone on that Indy card has been in WWE at some point. Even Ibushi!

I love Keith Lee and Velveteen Dream. I hope they both have 15 great high profile years at least.

I lust after Toni Storm but that’s not special since all of the shows have a diverse array of attractive ladies who mostly can work good matches. It’s a golden age for women’s rasslin TALENT. They just need a little booking help.

I also like Dynamite enough to keep up with it but I’m very much tempering my expectations/allowing them to work through their kinks without freaking out when JR screws pooch on another name or something clunky happens. I think they have their nerdy rasslin hearts in the right place and that’s all I need sometimes. And that roster is coming along nicely. I’m excited for their future.

  

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38. "I'm not sure about this."
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>And now we get another Reigns title match. But
>at least this time the crowd will want him to win.

Goldberg is still very over with the live crowds. I don't see Reigns getting a good reaction to beating Goldberg unless they somehow find a way to make him a heel before Wrestlemania but I have no idea how unless they do some half-assed retread of Brock vs. Rollins.

I've some really roundabout theories to eventually get the belt onto Roman: Cena beats Goldberg at Wrestlemania, the Fiend beats Cena, Roman beats the Fiend. I could actually see that happening but that's a lot of title changes for the top belt.

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39. "Imagine Corbin beating Goldberg "
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Paps_Smear
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42. "AEW is better than any WWE product out there"
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Yes, at this point its even better than NXT, and I really enjoy NXT.

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41. "pretty much, I just laugh when I hear news like this"
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I’m with you. Wednesday is my wrestling day and then I catch up with New Japan sporadically.

>
>AEW has entertained me far more and I'm actually invested in
>the story and matches.

The last few weeks have been incredible. Revolution looks like an awesome card.

  

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40. "me and two friends recently made plans to attend Mania next year"
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We canceled those plans after this fuckery.

  

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43. "AEW: Revolution"
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Big PPV tomorrow

Who y'all got?

As always I'll be streaming live at https://s.kast.live/g/8lf7lrmxzl

I set it to private so I'll have to accept anyone that joins, join ahead of time if you want to avoid me having to accept you once the ppv starts.

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44. "I think Jericho retains"
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Moxley wins, but they’re still building up the Inner Circle as unconquerable and the other 2 titles JUST switched hands (plus I think the tag belts are switching again here).

I also think it’s gotta be Kenny or Cody who eventually take down Jericho. As great as Moxley is, and as different as he is from the Dean Ambrose character, making 2 former WWE guys your first 2 champs isn’t the best look.

MJF is gonna be a mega heel (shit, he is already) so he goes over.

Nyla’s probably gonna keep the title for a while.

My boy Darby’s going over. No doubt. Do Pandas even know what skateboards are? I doubt it.

Hager is definitely winning, but as the We Watch Wrestling guys said, it’s just amazing they found a way to get us excited about Goldust vs. Jack Swagger. I’m sure they’ve wrestled on Smackdown a few years ago and I just stared at my phone the whole time.

Oh yeah, Orange Cassidy is gonna have a match! I almost forgot. He ain’t gonna win unless it’s a fluky roll-up situation, but after he does his shtick he’ll turn it up and really impress.

Dynamite has been so goddamn good lately. I’m really excited for this.

  

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45. "Cody was in WWE"
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46. "Sure, but after a few years of operating with fresh paint"
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he’s a completely different entity. The main source of his popularity no longer comes from his time in WWE (and you can kinda argue the same for Jericho), that’s not true for Moxley yet.

  

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53. "Mox is blah "
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47. "Darby is the guy they need to build to taking the title from Jericho"
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He’s insanely over, exciting, unique, and he’s their guy. He’s already got beef with Jericho and his crew. Have him work his way up and eventually win the title over the course of the next 6 months or so.

  

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49. "Accept me? Just asked. Tjeffries"
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50. "You got it"
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48. "That was Tag Match of the Year worthy"
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Good God Almighty! - J.R.

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56. "i hope that match was a turning point"
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for more Kenny and the Bucks, and less K!E!N!N!Y! AND THE B!U!C!K!S!

with the nonsense turned down and the believable intensity turned up, they all finally made me see what any of the hype was about

also, i think the crowds are legit turning on the Bucks. they should lean into that hard. punchable faces will only ever be so popular among a mainstream audience lol

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51. "Freshly Fuckin’ Squeezed, BAY-BEE!!"
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54. "No Pulp"
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55. "im trying SO hard :/ lol"
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Ceej
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57. "Did u see the match??"
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The mfer can GO!

Could say he made Pac a bigger heel. That is a very valuable commodity they have and can exploit.

Hes not just a jobber getting squashed that the crowd ironically adores, he can actually wrestle, has a gimmick that will make the cornettes pissed and can get guys over.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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60. "i did, and hes athletically and technically impressive"
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i just dont know why i should care

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61. "You should be entertained. "
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62. "yeah, I’m not into him"
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It’s the kind of hokey stuff that WWE would get crushed for.

  

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65. "except this is well executed stuff with a guy who is slowly peeling back..."
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There's been a real arc with OC.

His Revolution performance was a watershed moment looking back, when bookended with a All In. Its pretty clear he can go, and it's a perfect example of comedy done right and well in wrestling.

It's creative and he's found a way to work that trick to great effect, over a long stretch of time.

Conversely, WWE had Otis just being a weirdo bumpkin, a greasy fat guy who does the worm and gets The Hot Girl.

Meanwhile, OC had a compelling match with a quality story with PAC, and threw in a picture perfect superman punch out of nowhere.

There are so many differences from the way this is executed creatively and the sort of shit WWE gets raked over the coals for.

It's a lazy comparison IMO.

  

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58. "this is the guy everyone should show to non-fans"
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His detractors think he ruins kayfabe but I think it's kinda the opposite. The suspension of disbelief is really the most important part of kayfabe and it can be the most fun. There's limits, of course, but the Cornettes of the world seem to forget we all gladly suspended disbelief so we could enjoy an undead wizard in the NINETIES.

I'm sure you've all heard the "Isn't that fake?" question and I kinda say "It's scripted, but who cares? It's fun!" I understand why he's not everyone's cup of tea, and I do think his character will have to evolve at some point just like anyone else, but goddamn he's a blast to watch.

  

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59. "Isn't this fake? (c) guy in Walking Dead tshirt and GoT ringtone"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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66. "Slight ammendment: we should show that match with Pac."
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>His detractors think he ruins kayfabe but I think it's kinda
>the opposite. The suspension of disbelief is really the most
>important part of kayfabe and it can be the most fun. There's
>limits, of course, but the Cornettes of the world seem to
>forget we all gladly suspended disbelief so we could enjoy an
>undead wizard in the NINETIES.
>
>I'm sure you've all heard the "Isn't that fake?" question and
>I kinda say "It's scripted, but who cares? It's fun!" I
>understand why he's not everyone's cup of tea, and I do think
>his character will have to evolve at some point just like
>anyone else, but goddamn he's a blast to watch.

I think that match had everything- the fun, the comedy, the drama, the athleticism, the crowd connection, Pac's brutality, all wrapped in something that is clearly for show.

IMO that match is the perfect microcosm of everything that makes pro wrestling, at it's best, a special brand of entertainment.

  

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52. "This inspired Jericho's entrance at Revolution"
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https://twitter.com/meredithbellpb/status/1221825425636233217?s=19

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63. "AAA and Stardom both have shows tonight"
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Both are free.

AAA 8pm EST
https://www.twitch.tv/luchalibreaaa_en
AAA English stream

Stardom 9:30pm EST
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Stardom stream
Tonight will be in an empty area due to the big virus scare but if you've never watched Startdom before these girls can go!

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64. "Re: this year’s Mania"
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>Haven't seen one of these in awhile so figured I'd start a
>new one since we're heading into the Royal Rumble to
>Wrestlemania season.
>
>Kicking off the year on January 4th and 5th is the first ever
>two day Wrestle Kingdom event that will crown the first ever
>double champion (IWGP Heavyweight and Intercontinental).
>
>Chris Jericho vs. Tanahashi, if Tana wins he gets to challenge
>for the AEW World Title. If AEW and NJPW form a working
>relationship this will be one of the biggest things that has
>happened in wrestling in some time.
>
>Who do we have for Rumble winner this year?
>
>What y'all been watching?

It seems like we say this every year after the Dallas mania, but this card is looking pretty rough! And like we discussed here all the time, it’s pretty much their own fault. The roster is ridiculous but somehow it’s just not meshing properly. Too many rando rewrites on the weekly shows. Too many folks who are assumed to be more over than they really are / assuming folks should be able to survive bad booking and/or not doing anything for long periods of time.

At least NXT is still a grand ole time and it looks like we might get Velveteen Dream as champ. I’ll take it!

  

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"RE: Re: this year’s Mania"


  

          

The only angle I'm invested in on the main roster is Edge/Orton. Cena/Fiend is intriguing, but that would depend on the build up and after Bray's Firefly Funhouse segment from Friday it may be the other angle I'm interested in seeing. Other than that nothing on either show has grabbed my attention.

And yes, Dream as champ I'm all in on.

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67. "RE: Re: this year’s Mania"
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The only angle I'm invested in on the main roster is Edge/Orton. Cena/Fiend is intriguing, but that would depend on the build up and after Bray's Firefly Funhouse segment from Friday it may be the other angle I'm interested in seeing. Other than that nothing on either show has grabbed my attention.

And yes, Dream as champ I'm all in on.

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68. "RE: Dream"
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Going back and re watching Tough ENough really hammers home how dumb that show was.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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69. "I dont think Mania is gonna happen"
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all the indies are gonna feel that hit bigly.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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70. "XFL is cancelled and WrestleMania somehow isn't"
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I'm sure it's coming, but cmon Vince... do the right thing. My guess is he's waiting for Tampa to do it for him so his event insurance kicks in.

  

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71. "Speculation is he's waiting on TB to cancel it"
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for insurance purposes. It's basically a game of chicken right now, in that situation. But yeah, no way can WM be happening in a football stadium on April 5. It's either going to be postponed or moved.

  

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72. "man wrestling is funny as fuck w/o fans"
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mainly because the production is the exact fucking same.

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73. "cant wait for Mania at the PC with no audience, gonna be a trip"
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74. "you HAVE to see this stone cold segment though"
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they closed the show w/ it and its equally terrible and amazing. im in tears laughing rn. this no crowd shit is terrible

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75. "shit I gotta check wreddit for that"
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edit: lol the undertaker flipping the table was awkward af

  

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81. "it was like a bad trip that became a good one"
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>they closed the show w/ it and its equally terrible and
>amazing. im in tears laughing rn. this no crowd shit is
>terrible

just absolutely bizarre.

  

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76. "man, I turned there and saw a RR rerun of Brock throwing"
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everyone out. Assumed the whole show was showing the Rumble or something because they’ve got nothing else.

  

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77. "They should just air throwback Raws and SmackDowns"
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Air (heavily edited for 2020 audience) Attitude or Ruthless Aggression Era content. Bring in some old fans who want some nostalgia.

  

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78. "this reveals just how uninspired these people are"
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they could do literally anything different than they're used to doing and I think it would be well received.

Instead, they're running the -exact- same shows they always run, in front of no one, with no new promo structures or style of matches.

  

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79. "AEW might be a different story"
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They've prob done nothing but think creatively on how to make these upcoming shows unique and use the lack of audience to their advantage.

  

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80. "they're usually at their best when they get a curveball"
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there was the Saudi Arabia-Smackdown mess where they utilized the NXT roster for an awesome Invasion angle.

there was that Raw episode a few years ago that was just interviews after a blizzard made an arena show impossible.

I was looking forward to this to see what they'd do but it's been a disappointment. A couple segments did hit like Edge's promo and the Wyatt/Cena faceoff, but overall this is just super awkward. They're just playing to a crowd that isn't there.

  

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82. "have they done a match where the fighters stay 6ft apart?"
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that might get me back.

  

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91. "lol, honestly i wouldnt even do a single in-ring match"
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just kayfabe it like "we're not allowed to wrestle. we're all stuck at the PC and we're about to go nuts" and just have wacky backstage shit happening all the time.

that way you still get your action but you also get the character development and all that.

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83. "so, simply, empty arena wrestling shows are ass"
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84. "I dunno, I think they did a damn good job for it being an empty arena "
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They put the wrestlers who didn't have a match that night in the crowd and had them kayfabe cheering and booing who they should be. They had the hard cam across from the entrance ramp so it didn't focus on the empty crowd that much and the action was still pretty good.

Who knows how long this thing might last, they want to go out there and put on the best show they can for a crowdless area to give the fans at home something to watch when they could have easily just canceled things until this is over.

For what they were working with, I'd say a job well done.

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88. "yep. frankly there was very little to be down on"
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Pretty much all the negatives of this show would have been negatives in front of a live crowd.

The lack of a crowd is noticeable, but this was a very good foundation for further shows. My guess is they find a way to improve on it.

  

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85. "Jericho/Inner Circle had me LMAO"
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Sammy singing along to Judas (and MJF egging him on and later critiquing him)was hilarious. Jericho’s commentary during the match was gold. And the post match stuff - banning “pumpkin head dipshit fans”, the “shut the music off, nobody’s here anyway!”, Hager doing the push-up with Sammy on his back.....all of it was cracking me up.

Having a pro like JR on commentary helps too.

I’ll admit that I didn’t really give a shit about the matches - the crowd makes those a lot better.

  

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89. "The lack of a crowd definitely hurt the main event. "
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The Adam Page/Matt Jackson dynamic has been getting fantastic crowd reactions. But the match quality and storytelling was pretty much on par with everything else we've seen from AEW this far.

  

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86. "I thought AEW’s show was great"
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We’ll see if they can keep it up, but what wasn’t working for you?

  

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90. "“Ass” was a joke, but it’s hard to watch these shows without crowd..."
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ESPECIALLY the AEW show where the crowd is part of the show

I find the stuff I’ve liked most these last few weeks is just the really earnest promos.
I thought Cody’s promo last night was as good as Bray/Cena’s last week.

Maybe it’s me, but I’m just not sure wrestling works in an empty room.

  

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104. "dont miss this AT ALL. "
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>ESPECIALLY the AEW show where the crowd is part of the show

im actually enjoying not hearing people chant

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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87. "except Dynamite was a solid show from start to finish "
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-The Elite opener was very good, and would have worked well, exactly as is on any show.

-The Death Triangle/Best Friends match was solid. I don't care for Trent at all and Kentucky Fuck Chuck and his Bradshaw Lite look is always reason to change the channel or leave the room. But Fenix and Pentagon are fantastic.

-The gambling shit with MJF is a great touch. The wrestlers in the crowd made a huge difference the entire night.

-Jake cut a wack ass promo. His first appearance was nice but this wasn't. The Lance vignette was whatever. I imagine this would have played differently with a live crowd, possibly confronting Cody directly. As is though, it wouldn't have been any better with a crowd.

The Dark Order and The Exalted One was cool and worked well until Brody Lee's trashbag, Mabel 2000 looking ass ring gear. Christopher Daniel's is a mediocre promo and always has been, and this wouldn't have come off any better live.

The main event is dope.

Jericho killed on commentary from jump, cracking on Arn's "waffle house menu". Coach Arn is a garbage character to me.

This show was anything but "ass", and presented an excellent blueprint for further shows under these circumstances.

  

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92. "Anyone catch that FCW doc on the Network?"
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Really good watch.

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93. "RE: Anyone catch that FCW doc on the Network?"
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>Really good watch.

Yep. I peeped it. I’m at the point where I damn near watch the docs more than the weekly shows.

On that, I had to go ahead and watch that Benoit 2-ep Dark Side of the Ring. I went roughly a year without watching much rasslin after that shit happened. I dug EddIe G well enough and his death sucked. But I straight up adored the ring work of Chris Benoit. When he tapped Triple Haitch at Mania XX, I pretty much cried like a overjoyed bitch about it. That moment with him and Eddie hugging at the end of Mania 20 is still my favorite Mania ending. They tried to redo it with Daniel Bryan at XXX and that’s a good one too, but that XX? Maaaaaan, those dudes had already given up chunks of their lives to get to that moment. And they did that shit. It was great great great. Then it all went to shit within 5 years. Damn shame.

Watching that Benoit doc and reliving it, it reminded me that going to Mania 25 and getting that insane HBK/Taker match is probably why I still watch rasslin at all. Benoit falling off a cliff and everything surrounding those murders made me feel guilty to enjoy these rasslin dudes running themselves into the ground to be a certain size, have a certain look, or maintain a spot on the card. Then Kurt Angle was right after that but he made it at least. It’s even crazier now to see how the industry has mostly adjusted Away from the foolishness. Now a 6 foot 2 dude probably doesn’t weigh as much as Eddie and Benoit did at their biggest. And now there’s dudes that might not weigh 200 who can show up and win matches against damn near anybody and most of the non-Cornettey crowd rolls with it. Aka if they sell it, I buy it.

Jericho was great in the doc and just continues to put a Lexus Christmas Event-sized bow on his bad ass career with the stuff he’s done the last half decade. And David looks just like fucking Chris Benoit. That made it even harder to watch. But it’s a must watch if you can bring yourself to take it in.

  

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94. "Thanks man."
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I have to agree with you about that Eddie/Benoit Mania moment. It was incredible that these guys had reached the heights that they did after so long. But you're right, even as an image of the two of them hugging in the ring, it's incredibly difficult to just look at knowing where things went for them.

I may watch the Benoit docs at some time but it'd be a tough watch.

You're right about the Network docs being of a strong calibre. On that note, have you watched the recent Austin/Bret interview? The way you are with Benoit was me with Bret. It's a great interview - seeing Bret and Austin together discussing the Mania 13 match was gold but it burns me every time when Montreal is brought. Bret's the best of all time and it burns me as a fan so much that his career is reduced to that moment.

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96. "RE: Thanks man."
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>I have to agree with you about that Eddie/Benoit Mania
>moment. It was incredible that these guys had reached the
>heights that they did after so long. But you're right, even
>as an image of the two of them hugging in the ring, it's
>incredibly difficult to just look at knowing where things went
>for them.
>
>I may watch the Benoit docs at some time but it'd be a tough
>watch.
>
>You're right about the Network docs being of a strong calibre.
> On that note, have you watched the recent Austin/Bret
>interview? The way you are with Benoit was me with Bret.
>It's a great interview - seeing Bret and Austin together
>discussing the Mania 13 match was gold but it burns me every
>time when Montreal is brought. Bret's the best of all time
>and it burns me as a fan so much that his career is reduced to
>that moment.

Yes. I was hating the Montreal part but then I loved the rest of it. It’s those little nerdy wrestler nuances that I love hearing about. Bret is still a badass in those moments and I’m glad he’s still here to give those to us. And I don’t mind him giving shit to the big and sloppy dudes like Vader and Goldberg. I see that sloppy kick as far worse than the Montreal stuff. It robbed Bret of the rest of his career and basically fucked up his life if you believe Bret’s book.

Side: I tolerate Goldy now more than I like him. He was Brock Beta in his heyday and that was cool enough but it sucks that he hurt so many folks. And now? He’s done but he keeps showing up and half-assing matches. I bet the nxt dudes laugh at his shit.

Side 2: I can’t imagine a world where Owen doesn’t damn near cripple Austin. Steve was as working SOB before that injury. The fact that he had to take a lot of the stank out of his pace and style after that is a big hurt. I’m still one of those idiots who loved his heel run. 2 man power trip!? Fuck yeah. Those matches with Benoit? Absolutely. He made WWE Benoit a main eventer in 3 matches: the tag where Triple Haitch tore his quad and the 2 tv matches in one cool ass week of wwe tv.

I think Bret’s work has and will continue to age very well. He was basically the size that a bunch of guys who came after him. And I’m not sure he was the best athlete, but his shit looks PHYSICAL in the best way and he could FUCKING GO. It also sucks cuz him and HBK have a Tupac/Biggie thing going where if you like one, some folks act like you have to hate the other one. I dig both of their ring shit. I’m glad at least one of them is involved with wwe/nxt.

The shitshow that was WCW...man, I don’t know if it could be overstated how bad they were for their last 5 years. And somehow they still managed to put on a collection of supreme matches. Mostly on the undercard sadly.

  

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97. "RE: Thanks man."
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Goldberg is a fascinating character to me for a few reasons - he always came off as someone that just didn't respect wrestling at all. Even his Austin interview revealed that when he talked about not caring if he lost because it wasn't real competition, etc. I think that lack of respect is something that easily alienates wrestlers as well as fans. But the real interesting thing about Goldberg as relates the Monday Night Wars is that while WCW's star people existed from scooping up WWF guys forcing Vince to create a new breed of headliners like Austin, Rock, Hunter and Foley, the ONE guy that Bischoff created during that period as his own headliner was Bill. And Bill was a strong name in the fight but I honestly can't think of a single other person that WCW created on their own to rival anything WWF was doing.

Yes, the Owen piledriver is horrible. I can't even watch it when replays air. Austin has always been very open about the fact that Owen never reached out to him during his time off which I thought was strange. I thought he was going to ask Bret about it in their interview which would have been interesting.

Obviously I agree with everything you said about Bret. I remember my introduction to wrestling being like 10 Hulk Hogan matches before seeing a Hart Foundation match (my first non-Hogan match) and being in awe of what Bret was doing. He's been my favourite ever since. I wish he had handled things a bit better though. People always ask him about Montreal because he's always open to talk about Montreal and rag on everyone involved. I'm like him though in that I'd never really be able to get over something like that but I think it's hurt him more than just his final years as a wrestler.

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107. "i bet he laughs about how many people watch their show"
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>I bet the nxt dudes laugh
>at his shit.

Raw + Smackdown + NXT *combined* dont equal total viewership for high point Nitro

its almost like the general TV viewing public doesnt care about Great Matches™...

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95. "The whole DSotR show is captivating"
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I'm really looking forward to this season though. I saw part one of Benoit on Saturday then checked out part two on Monday and it was just as I thought it would be, heartbreaking. I'm really looking forward to the New Jack epiode and the Road Warriors episode. Been looking at a bunch of Animal shoot interviews and mini RW docs on YouTube so that episode couldn't have come at a better time.

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98. "Reigns out of Mania"
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Makes sense to me. He’s compromised and doesn’t want to risk it.

But now what? Who is dying to get in the ring with old ass stiff ass Goldberg and hope that he doesn’t screw pooch and hurt you in some way?

Would they really stick Bro out there to get killed and potentially potatoed? Brock doing double duty? R Truth for the jokes? Cena double dipping? Taker on the rematch? Hmmm...

>Haven't seen one of these in awhile so figured I'd start a
>new one since we're heading into the Royal Rumble to
>Wrestlemania season.
>
>Kicking off the year on January 4th and 5th is the first ever
>two day Wrestle Kingdom event that will crown the first ever
>double champion (IWGP Heavyweight and Intercontinental).
>
>Chris Jericho vs. Tanahashi, if Tana wins he gets to challenge
>for the AEW World Title. If AEW and NJPW form a working
>relationship this will be one of the biggest things that has
>happened in wrestling in some time.
>
>Who do we have for Rumble winner this year?
>
>What y'all been watching?

  

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99. "It's Braun according to Dave"
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100. "RE: It's Braun according to Dave"
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>

Fair enough. Hopefully he wins. And fast. Maybe he jumps over a spear or something.

  

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101. "Yeah no way that match hits the 5 minute mark"
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102. "Also no way Goldberg can jackhammer the guy"
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Braun has to win just based off that.

  

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103. "Right on the heels of him revealing what a piece of shit he is "
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105. "or because of lol"
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106. "Pretty much"
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Him sitting on Indie guys probably made him look better to Vince

  

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108. "Taker had an incredible promo last night"
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of all people, Undertaker coming through with a flamethrower

https://youtu.be/wkx_2dzSBFM

This is what I meant when I said I was hoping for more inspired content during these last few weeks. If people weren't dying all over the globe, he'd still be playing the tired grim reaper character. Instead, he has to pivot and in turn gives a more authentic promo. He can't move anymore, but damn if he doesn't still have a little fire. I was pleasantly surprised by this.

  

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109. "That was real good. "
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110. "RE: Taker had an incredible promo last night"
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>of all people, Undertaker coming through with a flamethrower
>
>https://youtu.be/wkx_2dzSBFM
>
>This is what I meant when I said I was hoping for more
>inspired content during these last few weeks. If people
>weren't dying all over the globe, he'd still be playing the
>tired grim reaper character. Instead, he has to pivot and in
>turn gives a more authentic promo. He can't move anymore, but
>damn if he doesn't still have a little fire. I was pleasantly
>surprised by this.

I think all of these documentaries unlock whatever is still left in a lot of these guys. In that way, the WWE Network has more than validated its existence multiple times over.

I’m locked back into 2004-2008 era. I’m watching the Backlash after Mania 20. It’s crazy to hear JR go on and on about how the Mania 20 main was the best main event in Mania history and they’re running it back because of that. And HBK was clearly in a zone during his 2nd life. I regret that Daniel Bryan isn’t getting a similar go of it.

I think I’m at the point where I can watch Benoit and say ‘well, I know the shit ends badly, it sucks, and I wonder what dude had on his broken mind that weekend and the years after Eddie died leading up to it, but the guy was a good match-having mfer’. And I’m fine if that’s as far as I make it. And puhleeze, I don’t think about hot takey stuff like putting him in the hall of fame. And I even agree with WWE’s stance of not bringing him up. It’s already been proven that other folks can do that and get the points across. But if folks can fall in love with Tiger King or live mostly uninterrupted in a world where roughly half a country for real voted for DT, I can watch a few Benoit matches and call it a day.

  

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111. "I do not like empty arena wrestling at all"
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112. "This is so awful it’s funny. Fuckin Goldberg in an empty room "
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Just snarling and sweating and yelling at no one

  

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116. "RE: This is so awful it’s funny. Fuckin Goldberg in an empty room "
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>Just snarling and sweating and yelling at no one

The empty arena separates a Goldberg from the dudes who do a lot more in the ring like Rollins and Owens. I still think his little thing with Braun hit hard even if it might be cuz a couple of those spears looked like straight up tackles.

Maybe they should’ve gone #HardyHomage / Lucha Underground for more of the show.

The AJ/Taker match is probably going to be well enough received that I could see WWE doing more matches like it until they can come back to live shows. Or I could see them at least adding music and/or some more editing here and there. The only challenge is how quickly the audience could be trained to appreciate the editing and music. Then they’d get stuck doing it all the time when a show isn’t live.

And Matt Hardy is somewhere either laughing his ass off or friggin pissed that they didn’t do this for him a few more times with bigger stakes. His Halloween special was basically the best thing he did at WWE and I don’t know if I’m like the only person who watched the shit out of it cuz they didn’t push it at all.

  

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117. "Hardy definitely set the stage for Taker/Styles, but theirs was better I..."
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I wasn’t really a fan of the Broken Matt Hardy stuff, found it cringe-worthy for The most part. I think Matt Hardy thought it was good too, while the majority of it was so poorly acted/shot/presented.

I’ve seen a lot of people online this morning say “well now they should do more of these”...I disagree pretty strongly there

The Boneyard match largely worked because of how much it leaned into our perception of the Undertaker - the rough and tumble OG who’s seen it all. The fighting was fun, but where it flourished was in the banter between the two, the facial expressions, the little bit of blood Taker drew. Taker’s demeanor during the match and reputation as a performer...thats really what made it go.

The sample size is small, but there is precedent for these types of matches in WWE though, again, I’ve never been that enthused about them. Hardy stuff was a miss for me, and the Wyatt/Orton haunted house match or whatever should have never been broadcast.

I feel about the Boneyard match the way I felt about Jay-Z’s 4:44 album. I was really surprised and excited, but I’d be content with no more of it and think the performer should stop while he’s ahead.

If that’s really Taker’s parting shot, that’s as good as he’ll be able to do. The next one won’t feel as novel, it will have to live up to the expectations of this one, it will disappoint. This is where the Undertaker should sign off.

  

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113. "the Taker/Styles match was really fun to watch "
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By far the only thing worth a damn tonight. They leaned into the cheese...and it almost all worked. That was a good time.

  

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114. "Will Undertaker be arrested?"
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He just murdered a man on live television.

But with background music.

Edit: He probably murdered two men. Gallows probably dies from that fall. Especially without medial attention.

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115. "RE: the Taker/Styles match was really fun to watch "
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>By far the only thing worth a damn tonight. They leaned into
>the cheese...and it almost all worked. That was a good time.

Some people who never saw the Hardy stuff are blown away. I’m glad WWE dropped the pride and just went full #HardyHomage and made something cool instead of just doing a whole 2 night empty arena show.

Owens and Rollins did grand Indie-style work. The ladder match was strong too. And I’m glad Goldberg showed up, showed ass, and got beat the hell up the way he should at this point.

And now I’m hoping people don’t ruin the Bray/Cena thing by expecting too much. Me included. It should be good stuff.

  

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118. "i dunno if any of yall like "real" wrestling"
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but the 2000 NCAA championships are on ESPN2 right now

Cael Sanderson going for #2 of 4, and Brock Lesnar in the HW finals

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119. "Nice, I wrestled in high school and college "
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120. "i wrestled in high school, but i grew too damn fast"
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putting on weight to play football had to take priority, so i had to stop

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121. "Otis got his kiss ;_;"
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122. "That "match"..."
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WAS FUCKING AWESOME!

Very creative… so much went into that production… Excellent storytelling… Definitely stole the show!

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125. "incredible stuff"
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did not think they had something like that in them and I'm so glad Cena agreed to it.

  

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123. "COVID-MANIA: they did alright (and even excelled in spots)"
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The huge missed opportunity on the weekend is the lack of fan interaction. Duh, there's no one there - how could they have gotten fans engaged nonetheless? For a company that's always reminding us how digitally savvy they are, there was no hint of that ingenuity all weekend.

Right to the bad: too many matches of little consequence, and too few guys/girls who acknowledged and used the the unusual setting. By and large, most of the matches just didn't have enough heat, and most of the performers weren't creative enough to mix things up. Not enough talking between competitors, still a bunch of awkward looks towards a nonexistent audience...some of these matches were downright hard to watch (note: they'll get a mulligan, but Goldberg vs Strowman is easily the worst title match at a Wrestlemania ever)

The good: Cena, Wyatt, Edge, Orton, AJ, and Taker in particular clearly understood that this was a lawless time, and they ran with the creative freedom they were given. All three of the "cinematic" matches were entertaining, and a few days removed from the Taker/AJ "Boneyard" match I actually think it may be heralded as a classic. The online buzz is still humming for that one. I don't know what it says about the current roster, the backstage culture, or the WWE developmental apparatus when the weekend's brightest highlights were made possible by such tenured talents. But nonetheless, kudos to them for making chicken salad out of chicken shit. Also, do want to at least acknowledge the effort put in by Rollins and Owens. I'm not really an Owens fan, but he and Rollins busted ass as best they could as well.

The hallmark of the weekend was obviously Taker vs AJ Styles. That
exceeded any expectations that anyone could have had, and I can assure you it turned out better than anything they would have done in a traditional match setting. Part of me admittedly wants to see that version of the Undertaker character again, but I think it's in his best interest to call it at this point. The parting visual of him on the bike, fist raised, UT laser symbol on the barn...that's a fine spot to go out on.

If they're hell bent on still having so many Wrestlemania matches and including so many performers moving forward, then I guess going two nights is the way to do it. Probably hard to fill an NFL stadium full of marks two nights in a row, and I doubt they'd scale down to baseball stadiums. I wish they'd just have fewer matches, we'll see what they do moving forward.

In all, I think the weekend earned a C+ ... which is so much better of a grade than I think I would have thought they'd get going in.

If they're allowed to do a Summerslam, I anticipate that being one of their all-time best shows...the Mania they meant to have.







  

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124. "edit: Orton/Edge wasn't great, they just tried hard"
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126. "Pleasantly surprised"
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The boneyard was super fun and exactly the type of thing they should keep doing to extend Taker's career/mystique.

I can't sing the praises of the Funhouse match enough. Possibly the most creative thing they've ever done. 5 stars.

My favorite of the PC matches was Charlotte/ Ripley. A crowd would've been going nuts for that. I also really enjoyed KO/Rollins and the ladder match.

Mostly everything else worked for me, was a good length, and I was fine with the result. Orton/Edge is the exception. I t dragged on and on and I was very bored.

  

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136. "RE: Pleasantly surprised"
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Charlotte/Ripley was the only in-ring match that honestly didn't need a crowd at all - it was that good. It was a perfect setting to show just how good Chalotte is - everything she does, from her trash talking to selling is masterful.

KO/Seth would probably have come in second for me.

Agree that Edge/Orton went far too long. I might've embraced it more had Gargano & Ciampa not tore up the PC just a couple weeks ago too, and done it better I'd say.

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127. "I wonder how the Funhouse match was received by "casuals""
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There was a whole lot of history in that story. I hate Superfiend and loved it and while I probably didn't get all of the references I didn't feel lost once I managed to regain my bearings regarding how crazy it was. My wife also hates Superfiend and isn't well versed on the history and she did not like it at all.

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128. "my friends that dont like wrasslin love the Funhouse stuff"
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probably cause it reminds them of some adult swim shit.

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131. "Did they see the Fun House match though?"
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And if so what did they think? I could see someone liking the Firefly Fun House and thinking the Wrestlemania thing was too out there. Although if they like for its Adult Swim-ness then I guess the Fun House match delivered there too.

I love the FFH too (less so after Seth...burned it down...ugh). I've pretty much hated everything with the Fiend until last night although The Fiend played a bit part role.

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138. "not sure. havent gotten a chance to show them yet"
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after seeing it in full myself, i'm actually more curious if they'd get it cause it's probably the most "in-crowd" thing i've ever seen in wrestling bc of all the references.

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129. "RE: I wonder how the Funhouse match was received by "casuals""
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>There was a whole lot of history in that story. I hate
>Superfiend and loved it and while I probably didn't get all of
>the references I didn't feel lost once I managed to regain my
>bearings regarding how crazy it was. My wife also hates
>Superfiend and isn't well versed on the history and she did
>not like it at all.

Casuals just know a lot of stuff happened and that rasslin nerds enjoyed it. So their own opinion varies. Some of them will wait until whatever podcast they kneel to tells them what to think and they'll fall in line accordingly.

I myself missed the significance of the nWo part until I read about it. Even without that, I loved it. I'm gonna watch it again with that in mind and I assume I'm gonna think it's the best thing they've ever done.

  

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130. "re: nWo part"
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Was the significance everybody always wanting WWE to turn Cena heel Hogan/nWo style during his SuperCena run or is there something deeper there?

>I myself missed the significance of the nWo part until I read
>about it. Even without that, I loved it. I'm gonna watch it
>again with that in mind and I assume I'm gonna think it's the
>best thing they've ever done.

  

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132. "Maybe there's also a parallel between the rise of Hollywood"
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and the rise of Cena to the top of their respective cards and how some probably see that as the beginning of a slow decline for their organization's as a whole.

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133. "RE: re: nWo part"
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>Was the significance everybody always wanting WWE to turn
>Cena heel Hogan/nWo style during his SuperCena run or is there
>something deeper there?
>
>>I myself missed the significance of the nWo part until I
>read
>>about it. Even without that, I loved it. I'm gonna watch it
>>again with that in mind and I assume I'm gonna think it's
>the
>>best thing they've ever done.
>

Stroud’s theory makes a lot of sense. Cena basically turns heel during the funhouse match because he’s not accepting what Bray is trying to tell him about himself: he sold out his original boyhood dreams to fit into what Vince wanted from his main stars. And then he eventually bought his own hype so much that he let Vince use him to abuse others who didn’t fit into the vision. You know the guys: the indy darlings like Punk or a fat guy like Bray.

And similar to Hulk going nWo, it’s a huge turn. But typical Cena, he doesn’t fully accept the turn so he just attacks Bray again instead of fully going along with the promo. Then the editing shows this failure to accept Bray’s version of the truth matching up with all of the other times Cena failed. Losing to Punk and losing Vince’s title, losing to Brock at Summerfest, getting punked by Taker, losing to AJ Styles and Reigns, all of that.

The end is Bray turning into the Fiend to save himself from Cena this time and righting the wrong of their old Mania match. And then he takes Cena’s words about Bray being entitled and overrated and turns them around him for the 2nd time in the match.

Yeah, it’s good times with this interpretation and I figure there’s other stuff or maybe other theories. I just watched it for a 2nd time. It’s excellently nerdy. And Cena is good shit for being down to do it. Especially if he actually sells it in any way going forward.

  

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134. "I mean, go check Cena’s Instagram"
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>It’s excellently nerdy. And Cena is good
>shit for being down to do it. Especially if he actually sells
>it in any way going forward.

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137. "spamming 13 Million followers...damn, good by John dude"
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Really curious what the next John Cena looks like...feels like he wanted to "kill" the John Cena character

  

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139. "how did I not know he has an insane Instagram?"
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140. "if I hadn't watched him on TV for 15 years, I'd think he was interesting"
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150. "makes more sense to just be a jab at his static persona"
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Hogan evolved and switched gears, and got red-hot a second time in a different era from the first. To a lesser extent Hall and Nash did too. Cena never did; he was "just" a legitimately good person for SO long, that people eventually just switched to appreciating the man.

And thats to his credit as a man, because in 1995 no one had any appreciation for Hogan in OR out of the ring. He wasnt endearing in his acting; his persona was stale and earning significant audible boos on WCW programming; and people were already suspecting that he was a scummy asshole IRL.

But as a performer, Hogan was an Icon. WWE just wants people to *think* Cena was, and it works well enough for their purposes because he's a rock solid guy and he actually brings people enjoyment with his film work.

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135. "How many casual fans are watching wrestling right now??"
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I know a few people who are big wrestling fans who aren't fucking with it right now because of the missing crowd… The missing crowd definitely hurt some matches… some more than others… I can't imagine too many people who just kinda like wrestling being into Mania with no crowd...

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141. "The Edge documentary"
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Not shockingly, it’s good times. Beth and Edge have a good thing rolling.

And duh, Edge looks great recently cuz he put in the damn work.

I have so much respect for rasslers who can work for real. I hate feeling like I’m harping on this point, but it keeps popping up in my mind so I keep sharing it.

Besides that, as I get older, I think the thing I like about rasslin the most is my mark ass ideal of seeing these folks be ‘successful’. A heel being hated/getting the boos. The nerdy rasslers getting their nerdy nuanced shit over. Hurt dudes coming back and looking good. Character work. Campy/abnormal stuff that plays on all of the things that makes wrestling what it is. Keeping the surprises a secret. Good Heel/face turns. The ‘all I wanted to be was a wrestler’ wrestlers that have flooded NXT over the years. All of that stuff.

And my lucky ass was at the Rumble when Edge came back. So there’s that too. Everyone lost their shit when that music hit.

>Haven't seen one of these in awhile so figured I'd start a
>new one since we're heading into the Royal Rumble to
>Wrestlemania season.
>
>Kicking off the year on January 4th and 5th is the first ever
>two day Wrestle Kingdom event that will crown the first ever
>double champion (IWGP Heavyweight and Intercontinental).
>
>Chris Jericho vs. Tanahashi, if Tana wins he gets to challenge
>for the AEW World Title. If AEW and NJPW form a working
>relationship this will be one of the biggest things that has
>happened in wrestling in some time.
>
>Who do we have for Rumble winner this year?
>
>What y'all been watching?

  

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142. "It was SO good. wonder if it happens if TK doesnt reach out. "
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143. "deavors season has returned"
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Drake Maverick, EC3, Eric Young, Gallows and Anderson, Lio Rush, Heath Slater, Aiden English, Curt Hawkins on the talent side

Kidman, IRS, Finlay, Lance Storm, Shane Helms, Sarita, Scott Armstrong, and Daivari on the producers/agent side

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144. "The list keeps growing. Holy fuck."
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>
>
>Drake Maverick, EC3, Eric Young, Gallows and Anderson, Lio
>Rush, Heath Slater, Aiden English, Curt Hawkins on the talent
>side
>
>Kidman, IRS, Finlay, Lance Storm, Shane Helms, Sarita, Scott
>Armstrong, and Daivari on the producers/agent side

They made Sarah Logan and No Way Jose travel on Easter to get squashed on Raw and then cut them 2 days later. Zack Ryder, Kurt Angle, the Colons, and the Kanellis family are all gone.

  

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145. "Rusev now too"
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146. "So far that’s just him hinting at it on Twitter "
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And he’s always pulling shit in Twitter so I’d take that with a grain of salt.

However, if true it’d be super dumb. Once AEW and New Japan start hiring he’d fit in very nicely to their main event scene.

Edit: it’s confirmed... very dumb move on their part.

  

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148. "RE: So far that’s just him hinting at it on Twitter "
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>And he’s always pulling shit in Twitter so I’d take that
>with a grain of salt.
>
>However, if true it’d be super dumb. Once AEW and New Japan
>start hiring he’d fit in very nicely to their main event
>scene.
>
>Edit: it’s confirmed... very dumb move on their part.

He’s gonna do great wherever he goes. Hopefully he has a good time with it, wins some titles, and sets the rasslin world on fire again.

  

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147. "Snuka killed Nancy Argentino - just in case anyone forgot"
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149. "RE: Snuka killed Nancy Argentino - just in case anyone forgot"
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That’s another crazy Dark Side ep.

To me, it’s a weird ep cuz there were so many folks still trying to cover their ass/claim they don’t remember stuff. Most of the time most folks who are lucky enough to be alive tend to be somewhat reasonable. But no involved investigators and rasslin folks would wanted to show up damn near 40 years later and say ‘yeah, Snuka prolly did that shit. He’d hit her a few times and he was constantly coked out. And it’s a shame that he just did that shit and got away with it’.

Not to compare, but I think I have a roadmap to the Benoit thing. Drugs. Roids. Concussions. Grief. Domestic violence gone too far. And dude knew he was in the wrong so he went on and off’d himself the same weekend. He could’ve let Daniel live but still. It’s not like Benoit killed a lady then went on wrestling like normal for a few more years along with going around for 20-something years acting like he didn’t do what he did.

This Snuka shit? Killing some girl you were messing around with while your wife and family are at the house? Ok, drugs and dudes hitting women. But then doing the shit and then acting like you didn’t do it? And being able to essentially get away with it? Sure, he probably had some grief until he died but he was still on the scene telling a story about it 30 years later.

  

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151. "finally finished watching wrestlemania and id say B-/C+"
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props to everyone for working stiff, but even when they got it right they still sometimes felt the need to inject Sports Entertainment

i loved the boneyard match, but the druids and the pyro each took 30-60 seconds for me to recover from. that was the best filmed fight scene ive ever seen...until the pyro went off and the druids vanished. but AJ and Taker were unbelievable, and the verbal interactions were absolutely amazing. i believed in everything they did, and it oddly reaffirmed what really makes wrestling awesome. two believable guys that believably hate each other, and have a fight because one is a fucking asshole. the selling was easily the best ive seen since I was a teenager, and "please dont bury me" was the highest spot in wrestling this year. granted all thats easier with reshoots and editing, but still.

the firefly funhouse thing...it was alright i guess, but if there is no plan for some 4th wall breaking John Cena rebirth it kinda just felt like a shoot burial of his legit body of work. laughing at his annointing because Vince could never let go of outdated ideas, criticizing him for not being able to evolve his character...that seemed oddly, idk, hurtful lol. only the end felt like a work because Wyatt strikes me as the kind of guy who actually has no issues doing jobs, because he obviously knows how to use that to get over down the road. but no opportunity to refute the other stuff, then *poof* hes gone? i didnt like that part.

Edge vs Orton...wow. seems like i liked that more than a lot of other people did. again, stiff as fuck, and i believe in "edge" and the "legend killer" so i believed in why they were doing it. in that regard, the "old guys" put on a clinic in selling and emoting. i can see why some people thought it was too long, but for me the length made for some excellent legitimate wear and tear effects in the last 10 minutes that added to the intensity for me.

Charlotte vs Rhea Ripley...also wow. Shades of Hart v Austin at WM. Charlotte is the best in that whole company, full stop, and thats why shes going to be on NXT now. This is the first real sign that AEW is landing body blows, because shes a star that acts like a star, and knows how to do what her daddy used to do. Win and get someone else over at the same time. I dont watch NXT regularly but i did watch Shayna vs Ripley, and this match did more for her in my eyes than that one did...because she held her own with the only prime-age Icon in all of wrestling right today. I could watch her matches over and over and over again. She made Asuka look like a million bucks 2 years ago, hopefully they do better with Ripley. best traditional match of the night for me.

beyond that Becky-Shayna, Rollins-Owens, and Zayn-Bryan were all very good. Brock-Drew was dumb. I hate Hate HATE when repeated finishers only seem to help someone recover from the first one. Goldberg-Strowman was the only way out of their Saudi Arabian money-grab booking.

the rest of the good stuff was all individual things within over- or under- booked matches (John Morrison finish, Bayley-Sasha interplay, Otis-Dolph finish)

the remainder meant nothing to me in either direction.

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152. "Schiavone and Jericho are the best doing it"
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without Excalibur screaming words that mean nothing to me, and with the extra space of a 2 man team, these guys are gold. for PPV matches and televised championship matches is still want to have JR, but i love them as weekly television.

theyre obviously not Gorilla and Heenan, but theyre similar in that they have a personal connection that comes out in the commentary.

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153. "Jericho called him “Skavoni” tonight"
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They are so much fun together

  

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154. "they paid Gronk to win the 24/7 title and then probably never wrestle"
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this company man...

  

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155. "Maybe he'll be the Es Deion. "
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156. "they'll be okay, now they have drake maverick's contract off the books!"
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157. "yet hes still working"
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158. "so Dream is outchea sending dick pics to underage girls..."
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Breh had a lot of potential but it’s gotta be a wrap after this

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159. "I really hope this isn't true"
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He said he has people investigating it and is making it seem like he was either hacked or it wasn't him.

I hope dude wouldn't be this dumb.

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160. "RE: I really hope this isn't true"
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>He said he has people investigating it and is making it seem
>like he was either hacked or it wasn't him.
>
>I hope dude wouldn't be this dumb.

I’m still in the ‘don’t be sending dick pictures to anyone ever’ camp, but I’m old.

  

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161. "Taker is on Bill Simmons today. about 2 hr episode. good stuff"
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162. "The Owen Hart DSOTR was devestating"
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and it completely made me do a 180 on Martha.

For years Martha has been portrayed (mostly by Bret) as a stubborn, uncompromising widow who wants to detach Owen and her family completely from wrestling even if it means wiping away all of his work and his legacy. While I understood she was obviously hurt and blamed Vince and the WWE, I fully believed she needed to let it go, come to peace and let WWE honor Owen's legacy.

Then Martha pulled out the clip that was holding Owen as he dangled 80+ feet above the ring.

Fuck everybody involved in putting Owen on that catwalk that night. Vince (McMahon and Russo), the rigging company, whoever. Fuck. Them. All.

After listening to Martha (on both the Dark Side ep and Jericho's pod), as well as Oje and Athena, it's clear that she/they have no problem with Owen's legacy being honored and his wrestling career being appreciated, they just have no interest in letting Vince and the WWE profit off of it, be it economically or just on public image. In a way, allowing Vince to put Owen in the HOF (which, as she points out, isn't even a real fucking thing), she would essentially be publicly forgiving Vince/WWE of their responsibility in Owen's death.

Going to go back and read the Owen chapter in Bret's book now that I have some context from Martha's side, but all I can really say about Bret (who is my personal GOAT) is he needs to STFU on this one. Bret's place as Owen's keeper ended the day he and Martha said their I do's and he moved further down the list after his kids were born.

I have so much respect for Martha and those kids for telling the story of their husband/father on their own terms. And god damn that last line by Oje "it was fun, thanks for that" fucking killed me.

  

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164. "how the Hart family acted is just insane to me."
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>Going to go back and read the Owen chapter in Bret's book now
>that I have some context from Martha's side, but all I can
>really say about Bret (who is my personal GOAT) is he needs to
>STFU on this one. Bret's place as Owen's keeper ended the day
>he and Martha said their I do's and he moved further down the
>list after his kids were born.
>

A) this is post-screwjob, so the family should already hate Vince's guts and their attitude should be "Alright Owen, just get as much money as you can out of that company and leave."

B) WWE and Vince clearly killed Owen through their negligence. Whatever future money you think you could make with them is completely negated by that.

That carabiner was a fucking joke. Barely strong enough to hold a key chain.

Goddamn, that was a tear-jerker. I've really enjoyed this season but none of them really hit me emotionally until this one.

  

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163. "RIP Shad Gaspard"
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165. "AEW Double or Nothing"
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I'll be streaming it live tomorrow using Kast

Hit the link and request access if you haven't used my room before. I'll be checking before and during the show and adding people. Room is private for not to keep the assholes out.

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167. "Shows on"
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Had to fix the sound but its smooth now.

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166. "RIP Hana Kimura"
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168. "Double or Nothing was a real roller coaster"
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the positives were awesome. jungle boy vs MJF was far and away the highlight of the show for me. no fuckery, real selling, real charisma...top notch all the way around. that should be a PPV main event some day.

the battle royal was fun in a way that the main event was not, bc there was nothing that didn't make sense. well, not TOO much. the brian cage burial and resurrection was a little heavy handed but whatever. Frankie Kazarian has really won me over just by being a physical realistic competitor. i hated the SCU Sgt. Pepper thing last summer, but his work has made me have mad respect for him.

Kris Statlander is gonna kill someone. she's
got a lot of potential, but her botches are just too much and kept their hottest heel off the PPV.

kip sabian to me is a perfect chicken-shit midcard heel.

i expected fuckery in the Nyla Rose - Shida match, and i was disappointed in the finish, but otherwise it was a pleasant surprise. it didnt need the stipulations but i enjoyed that the no-dq was kinda marginalized and it was basically just a no count-out match with spots that were fun, again in a way the main event wasnt, because it never overshadowed the idea that these women were fighting for something important.

Cody - Archer, also very very good, until something happened that almost made me choke on my dinner. a referee came from the back to enforce some authority. what in the absolute fuck. these jabronis have been getting buried by talent for 12 months amd now the worst fucking ref in the whole company is coming out to swing his dick around? totally ejected me from what had been a decent amount of emotional investment, but they reeled me back in for the end. good match.

Moxley and Luke Harper did stuff to each other back and forth for a while, spending about 7-8 minutes outside of the ring while the same ref who charged out of the back earlier just pleaded with them to get in the ring. dude never even made a 1 count. thanks for burying yourself and slapping me in the face with the fact that none of this matters. im starting to think that Moxley needs to be produced. his stuff looks good and hes an engaging promo, but his matches can be boring and the ineffectual referee killed this for me.

which brings me to the main event. a carnival of fuckery unmatched in televised wrestling history. first of all, everything Jericho was directly involved with was absolutely perfect. the challenge flag, the mascot, the review, the line...everything worked because he stayed serious even drenched in absurdity. of course Chris Jericho would drop the mascot and demand video review of a 2 count.

on the other end of the spectrum we have Matt Hardy and the Young Bucks. i was always under the impression Broken Matt Hardy worked in Impact because no one ever indulged the idea that he was ACTUALLY POSSESSED. but no, he is actually endowed with supernatural powers, and Excalibur drives that home incessantly. i feel bad for Jim Ross in times like that. everything hes been involved in since he showed up has made me feel like an idiot for even trying to care about it.

the Bucks...i would honestly prefer if they were just never on TV again. the show was better without them, i dont believe in anything they do, and its all just moves moves moves. if wrestling were guitar music, they are Bill and Ted trying to do Yngwie Malmsteen, and it oozes out of their pores that they are just 2 dorks acting like what they think pro wrestlers act like. Kenny Omega is adapting and slowly, with fits and starts and setbacks, becoming a TV character i can be interested in. its just not happening with these assclowns.

overall a good time. more of the good stuff and less of the bad stuff plz.

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169. "if you haven't already, go check out the #SpeakingOut hashtag"
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a shitload of wrestlers getting called out for sexual/emotional/physical abuse, many trainers getting called out for creeping on young trainees, even some referees and ring announcers are being named. Mostly men but a couple women have been outed as abusers as well. The UK scene has especially been hit hard and it doesn't appear to be slowing down. There will almost certainly be some firings from WWE and AEW.

Perhaps most disappointing to me is Progress Wrestling's complicity. Other companies don't surprise me, but this is a company that bills itself as progressive and literally kicks out fans for being dickheads. A fan emailed Progress management about Jimmy Havoc assaulting them at a bar after the show, and their response was that he was just staying in character. Given how many of their workers have been named I'm sure there's even more to it.

I'm absolutely disgusted. A couple of my faves have been named and I don't feel right supporting those individuals anymore. Your mileage may vary on some of the evidence, but please don't be like the shitheads on Twitter who are knee-jerk defending these fucks.

  

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170. "you see jim Cornette and his wife are on some cuck #metoo shit?"
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171. "Yeah dude, that’s some crazy shit"
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Any industry where there’s some sort of hierarchy of “paying your dues” is gonna have this kind of stuff, so certainly wrestling isn’t alone, but it’s obviously disgusting and needs to be abolished. Today is wrestling’s day of reckoning and I hope they clear the ranks of all the abusers.

  

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172. "Velveteen Dream smh, so much for just being "hacked" in April"
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https://twitter.com/thekiaprint/status/1274167531729756162
https://twitter.com/thekiaprint/status/1274159497053974529

Kid (24!!!!) was well on his way to being a god damn STAR too

  

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186. "Y’all. I am so sorry for referring to Stroud’s opinions so much"
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Dude is 100% filth. Also, Uproxx’s silence is deafening in the wake of this.

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187. "I was wondering why With Spandex had stalled the last week or so"
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173. "anyone watch the Taker docs? Really good"
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Have to hand it to him, turning a terrible run of performances into the last angle of his career is pretty smart.

  

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174. "I actually started this today..."
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Only about ten minutes in to ep #1 but enjoyed it so far. It's strange how he's being so open about things over the past few months. Still can't get used to his normal speaking voice, haha.

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175. "Its pretty great. "
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176. "I think even this is as "work shoot" as it gets"
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like I don't think he had a run of bad matches on purpose. But I think when he kept having them he realized he could make this an aging cowboy story until he landed on a match he was comfortable leaving on.

The candor is refreshing. Even after the novelty of hearing him talk so much wears off, I admit I find him still oddly charismatic.

  

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180. "Even with MAGA dripping from him"
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I was still intrigued and entertained by him.

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177. "Asuka got about as clean of a win as you can get vs Charlotte"
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shame it happened vs no crowd and Charlotte had a prior shoulder injury from earlier in the night, but still she got tapped tf out

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178. "Good. I’m not anti-Charlotte like some corners of the Internet"
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But I think they’d do well to make her look human for a while and Asuka should look like a world beater during this title run

  

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179. "Asuka is a better worker than all of the women except Charlotte"
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she's deserving of wins like this. Charlotte needs challengers who look challenging - women with physical offense who can take a lick too and keep at Charlotte's pace.

Most of these women punch like 7 year old boys, it does little for me. Even today I'm confused how Becky Lynch became so popular. But I think Charltote and Asuka are as good as it gets.

  

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185. "Becky got popular same way post piledriver Austin did"
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She was a damn monster on the mic, she looked like a fucking badass after Nia gave her that au gratin, and her work for the previous year was consistently good.

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181. "I’m glad she’s off tv for a while. They were ODing with her "
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182. "Sasha Banks is doing incredible work right now."
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On TV and on Twitter.

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183. "New Japan Cup"
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Loving this tournament! Pretty damn good shows. Night 3 was my favorite with the big upsets of Shingo and Tanahashi. Toru Yano is killing me with his sanitizer spray and whatnot, and this feud with Takahashi’s hair is incredible. Takahashi is really selling the terror in his eyes. Hilarious match this morning.

  

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184. "I haven't been watching all of the matches"
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but I watched Shingo vs. SHO and Ibushi vs. ZSJ yesterday. They couldn't have been more different but I was riveted during both of them.

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188. "And the finals are..."
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Evil vs. Okada

I don’t think they run back Okada vs. Naito so soon, especially not with a crowd, and I think the Dominion matchup that makes the most sense is an LIJ one. Granted, I thought that’d be Shingo and then I thought it’d be Sanada, so maybe don’t listen to anything I have to say! Evil fought REALLY dirty against Sanada though and he’s a big enough deal that Okada can lose to him no problem.

My favorite thing in this tournament was the Takahashi/Toru Yano feud with the electric razor shenanigans. My god Yano is so much fun to watch.

  

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189. "New Japan Cup Finals Spoilers"
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Wasn't too crazy about the interference, but Evil winning/heading to Bullet Club is a great move. First BC defection I've liked in a while. LIJ has been easing away from being heels for a long time, but Evil was getting worse and worse. He was truly despicable against Sanada in the Semis.

Looking forward to Dominion!

  

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190. "Dominion Spoilers"
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Wow... did not see that coming.

What in the fuck?

Holy shit.

  

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191. "I would have never guessed!"
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I was watching this live and lost my shit at the end of this match! 2020 has been a mother fucker!

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192. "not in a million years"
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>I was watching this live and lost my shit at the end of this
>match! 2020 has been a mother fucker!

As excited as I was for Evil's defection, I thought this was a standard main event between Wrestle Kingdoms where there's basically no chance of a title change. They got me and they got the crowd. I wonder if this was always the plan (since they are known for their long-term booking) or if they called an audible to get people talking about the company. Either way, pretty brilliant.

Still... I'm gonna miss Tetsuya 2 belts. I bet this is the end of his "Tranquilo" philosophy.

  

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193. "Streaming Impact Slammiversary 2020 tonight"
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8PM EST

Yall know the deal
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194. "do we still watch wrasslin? the 2 Woman Power Trip has been fun"
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its a shame they have to waste this performance on quarantine shows

also what do you think of Raw Underground
i think it has potential

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195. "I just listen to Keller's recaps, and read the WZ recaps."
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I'll check for things that seem interesting, i.e, Bayley and Sasha, or things that at least warrant a look, like Underground.

Which is badly dated dog shit.

It's a shit idea made all the worse with Shane being the guy running it. But it was apparently his idea, so there's that. Of course, EC3 said that it was his originally.

But Shane is the guy who most coasts on nostalgia value, and he's horrible. If they wanted to sell it.... Heyman's available, I'm sure.

And even his expiration date may have passed for some shit like this.

The dancers are unintentional comedy. The whole thing looks and feels like a platform to relaunch Surge soda and JNCO jeans.

The only thing keeping it from being the worst idea in wrestling is this Retribution nonsense.

  

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196. "Raw Underground has potential"
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it should be used to set up someone in a big way. Like I think that's the perfect platform to really get Aleister Black over once and for all, or a great way to introduce Keith Lee properly

  

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197. "Mostly AEW and NJPW"
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I can't really deal with Raw or Smackdown much right now. I refuse to suffer through it currently.

I've been checking out a lot of Stardom stuff as well.

The G1 tourney dates were released and I'm excited as hell they get to do that this year.

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199. "Same, and I play catch up on NXT"
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>I can't really deal with Raw or Smackdown much right now. I
>refuse to suffer through it currently.
>

I have watched Raw the last few weeks to check out Sasha’s run and this Raw Underground shit. I’ll give them credit for trying something different but there’s just too much nonsense and filler to commit 5 hours a week to Raw and Smackdown, especially with actual sports picking up.


>The G1 tourney dates were released and I'm excited as hell
>they get to do that this year.

Can’t wait

  

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198. "Nah. And I’m mad I’m missing Sasha’s run"
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But it’s dumb with no fans.

I watched AEW until about May, but got bored of it.

They should just sit on all their angles for now, and go old school - just have matches where one of them is the heel because they cheat a lot. No “storylines”. Just rivalries.

  

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200. "RE: do we still watch wrasslin? the 2 Woman Power Trip has been fun"
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>its a shame they have to waste this performance on quarantine
>shows
>
>also what do you think of Raw Underground
>i think it has potential

Barely. I enjoy it in small doses when I watch but I'm just not into much of it now. And I'm not sure its them at this point. Cuz I see some good rasslers having good matches here and there. Adam Cole grew on me bigtime in NXT. Keith Lee has been hella dope. Yes, Sasha and Bayley have finally figured it out and they're KILLING it. Even Randy Orton is doing good stuff and appearing to be dangerous.

I just think I'm at least partially out of it with all of this uncertainty and silliness. Too much racial, political, and monetary division going on. It is tough to hold reasonable conversations about much of anything with all of the 'pick a side and be ready to ride or die' stuff. I'm stuck on the 'how come we don't all do better for real this time!?' side. But that's too boring for folks and it doesn't fit on a hashtag.

  

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201. "Ha. I just started up again. AEW for certain. Toying with NXT"
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The son of a neighbor just got me into watching AEW (he was apparently a manager in the local scene a little while ago). Now I'm hooked. Watch Dark and everything. Lack of fans doesn't really bother me, because it's been so long since I've watched it anyway.

I've been taping NXT and watching it on the recommendation of a long-time friend. I'm not sold on it. The Adam Cole and Pat MacAfee "feud" is the dumbest shit ever. But there's some redeeming value to the rest. So I might keep with it for a few more weeks.

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202. "lack of fans makes AEWs TV better imo"
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and it let Dark become its own thing

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Paps_Smear
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203. "You missed peak NXT"
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I still enjoy it a little now but currently it's no where near as exciting as what it used to be. I think them moving to a two hour show and trying to compete with AEW has caused them to suffer. I loved it when it still felt like a smaller indie show.

If you want I can link some amazing matches from the NXT of old.

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204. "Zayn vs Nakamura in NXT is best WWE match since Cena/Punk MITB"
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jimaveli
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206. "RE: Zayn vs Nakamura in NXT is best WWE match since Cena/Punk MITB"
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I love that Bayley eventually landed on her feet. I really dislike that Zayn has not. He’s got that Ziggler vibe almost on the main roster show.

Nxt...it’s still good but I think now we expect it to be grand. And every time I think it’s over for nxt, some indie dude shows up and ends up being awesome. For instance, Kross is a monster. Looks great. Good snug-looking work. Valet with holdings.

  

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mrhood75
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205. "Yeah, I'd say it'd benefit from being only an hour"
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Trim down the interviews, which are mostly pointless with no crowd.
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>If you want I can link some amazing matches from the NXT of
>old.

Yes, please. Thank you.

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207. "SummerSlam didnt feel special AT ALL. "
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208. "it was better than it had any business being"
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asuka winning the raw strap was great. sasha is a big ass joshi nerd so seeing her go crazy against the greatest joshi in the world was really fun

mandy vs sonya was surprisingly strong too.

i don't care for the mysterio/rollins rivalry anymore

mcintyre winning via a rollup was very old school and very cool.

  

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209. "not sure if i'm hype about this 4 way ironman."
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i know i should be but including ciampa and gargano just sort of sours me on the whole idea. i love em in the ring but their inclusion doesn't excite me at all. i would have enjoyed at least one wild card in this match:

- dexter lumis
- kushida (i hope he goes back to njpw)
- mansoor (what a wasted talent)

i'm only semi excited for this tho. either way a 60 min ironman on network tv seems insane

  

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210. "And of course, they went for the cop-out ending."
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>i know i should be but including ciampa and gargano just sort
>of sours me on the whole idea.

The whole thing was a set-up for Cole v. Balor anyway. So including Gargano and Ciampa was pretty much pointless.


>i'm only semi excited for this tho. either way a 60 min
>ironman on network tv seems insane

I would say that it's a play for ratings on a night that they have all to themselves, but from what I understand, historically iron man matches on network TV have been ratings poison.

And, as I mentioned above, it was a play to have Cole vs. Balor for the title on the second consecutive un-contested Tuesday night.

I also thing part of the problem is that the roster is feeling pretty thin due to "call-ups" and injuries. Keith Lee is on RAW. Kross is hurt. WALTER is in the UK. Loomis is hurt. I don't know who else you put in the title picture.

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211. "Wasn't a big fan of the match."
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Before it started I was really excited and then I had a work meeting start 30 minutes in and didn't really care that I couldn't focus on the match anymore. And seeing as how that focus would have just resulted in WWE giving me the finger anyway I guess that worked out okay.

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