im guessing mid-January you will be in a full fledged psychosis

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>im guessing mid-January you will be in a full fledged
>psychosis

He'll have missed what - 10 games by then due to load management in his prime?

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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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65 games played, thank you very much

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

..no one complained last year.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

>..no one complained last year.
>

When Bron and his cronies do it, didn't you know?


Dude has an ongoing issue, is protecting his health/future/chances at winning, etc. Being smart/cautious and doing his own thing and taking control of his future.

= Vex takes shots at the load management.



Lebron starts the era of squading up fucking AAU style to basically buy chips and Vex maintains that he's a trail blazer.



The sheer lack of self-awareness with some of these dudes around these parts is fucking disheartening.


What's funny is had Kawhi followed the Lebron model and signed with the Lakers, Vex would be all in here defending the load management. There is absolutely no doubt about this.


What's extra funny is that his load management no doubt eliminates him from MVP consideration, and Kawhi doesn't seem to give a fuck about that. So...why someone who claims to support players taking control of their careers/futures is so salty about it is...really weird.

Mentioning my name about a dozen times in an odd, unhinged rant is...well, weird.

But whatever waves rock your boat, my guy.

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Kawhi is amazing.

All anyone is saying is that you can't win MVP missing
a ton of games.

That's no slander. It's just a fact.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

might be more of a "LeBron Jr" than Bronny. LOL

If he keeps this up then yeah.

but he'll definitely deserve some votes if the Mavericks actually make the playoffs. That team has no reason to be in the playoff hunt given how uneven it is.

He is definitely the truth though. Scary to think he'll probably get even better since this is only his second year.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

Especially when they are giving up so many points with him on the floor compared to when he is on the bench?

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He can’t get enough of 2-9 teams.

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Considering AD just came from that same losing team. So if AD puts up MVP numbers on the same losing squad last year, Ingram can’t?

I don’t think you think before your type.

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His per is crazy, and he is too efficient. Plus what he is doing on both sides of the ball. He is doing more in less mins

If you compare his production against lebron’s And Giannis, he is giving you similar numbers with less mins. This means other teammates can get mins and the team can score even more points.


Also what Siakam Is doing, Raptors are still rolling hard and they thrashed the lakers.

Luka is outta this world, but the mavs as a team is weak.

Sabonis should be in the talks too. I have yet to see him have a bad night and the pacers are killing.

No one doubts that he could rather easily win all
things being equal

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Best player on the court is simply the best player on the court.

Best 2 way player - check
Most efficient player - check


Minutes played: 31.5
Per: 28


Lebron: Mins Played: 35.5
Per: 27


Giannis: Mins Played: 33.5
Per: 32.6

Lebron is playing the most minutes, and less efficient compared to Giannis and Kawhi. All the pers are outstanding of course. But you’re getting a bigger bang for your buck through Kawhi.

And all players are taking nights off. Morant, Horford, were just recently rested. This is going to be the way of the NBA. Stars will not play a lot of back to backs to preserve their careers . So you have no argument.

No one has anything close to negative to say about
his game.

You’re not understanding.

No one cares about the AWARD.

It’s about who is the real MVP of the league and gets his team to the championship, etc

My point is him being load managed does not take away the fact that he is the most valuable player on the court, which is why I posted the numbers.

Per 30 mins he is the most valuable and the most efficient player.

Period.

So No matter what number of games he plays..... when he is in the court with other top players, he is the best, which is why he is the champion.

with coffee grounds from 1997. don't expect him to type rationally about the NBA MVP.

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LMAOO

We talking about the MVP award

Not no NBA 2K version, dumb nigga

That's what the fuck we talking about

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but it wasn't about some subjective, fringe criteria on who the most valuable player in the league is *except* for the actual most valuable player in the league.

But hey - cats gonna cook.

leads the NBA in assists by a wide margin, best record in the West...

the same people that agree with the above sentence felt Nash didn't deserve his awards but that is simply none of my business

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Fuck other kind of MVP is there but the MVP award??

Jesus Christ



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

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17x NBA Champions

..as usual.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

given what he did during the regular season Orlando pandemic bubble run.

Props to you, sir or madam.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

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that was a great game, i think Bron was saving some gas for the Golden State game last night, we nearly had it.

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Luka just might be mvp.

Doing this to league in his second year? That’s makes it that much greater.
He has given every star in the league the business.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

We're now just about a quarter into the season - and you could make a case for a few guys.

Luka - Harden - Giannis - all making strong cases.

But right today - Lakers are 14-2. That's actually the best team start of LeBron's career - and he's legitimately playing at an MVP level. Lakers don't have the deepest team - Clippers are certainly a deeper, more talented team w/ guys like Montrezl & Lou Will coming off the bench to score 30+ and even take over games late.

Leading the league in assists - playing defense at a very high level - hustling back on both sides of the court with renewed inspiration. Volume scoring when it's needed. Closing games - empowering teammates to play at a high level etc...

Who would've thought this in year 17? Very few.



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With his destruction of Houston yesterday. My god what a performance. That was all him. 41 point double/double.

Can’t forget Giannis who lost Malcolm to FA, and the second star of the team Kris Middleton has been out for about 2 weeks and will be out for another month. This dude is really doing it solo. Putting in triple doubles like water.

Lebron has improved from last season, great stats, but he has AD who is a mvp caliber player himself putting in work as well, and was the reason they won the last 2 games. Dude had a 4 point play at the end of the Memphis game, and had a monster geme against OKC and has been stroking some serious 3 pointers. AD takes votes away.

And Luka snatched the lead with his performance yesterday as well as throughout the year.

I'm sure you have your own.

Cause he ballin and he’s white, then everyone will cry about it in retrospect.

>With his destruction of Houston yesterday. My god what a
>performance. That was all him. 41 point double/double.
>
>Can’t forget Giannis who lost Malcolm to FA, and the second
>star of the team Kris Middleton has been out for about 2
>weeks and will be out for another month. This dude is really
>doing it solo. Putting in triple doubles like water.
>
>Lebron has improved from last season, great stats, but he has
>AD who is a mvp caliber player himself putting in work as
>well, and was the reason they won the last 2 games. Dude had
>a 4 point play at the end of the Memphis game, and had a
>monster geme against OKC and has been stroking some serious 3
>pointers. AD takes votes away.

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Nash deserved the MVPs, but i hope you think you look cool saying this dumb shit!

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No superstars or allstars on that squad and they beat Utah. Should I say he beat Utah.

Giannis saw what Luka did and was like I’m still the king.

Giannis
Luka
Lebron

That order.

This season is going to be crazy. I hope this cats have something left in the playoffs. Going mad hard in November.

And Doncic is number 2

Giannis
Doncic
Wilt
Jordan

As well as Toronto.

I read a stat that the raptors have held Giannis, lebron and harden under
33 percent shooting.

Lebron and Harden got roasted by the clippers.

>Harden got roasted by the clippers.

harden put up 47 in a win vs LAC on 11.13. definitely not a roasting

on 11.22 he put up 37/12/8 despite getting double teamed every time he had the ball. the two best wing defenders in the league + help on every possession couldn't stop him from doing what he does. lost? yes. roasted? not quite

Ah, and in both games he went to the line 18 times. As the ref didn’t allow clippers to play defense. They never let anyone play defense against him

I watched both games and they were on him.

Kawhi hasn't even been playing all that spectacular consistently - and PG has been hot & cold -- but Lou Will and Montrezl have always stepped up with 30+ outings and closing games.

That's a luxury no other team has.

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n/m

This 17-2 team has tied the *franchise-best* for hot starts through first 19 games.

That's crazy. Bron is spearheading the most impressive quarterbacking effort of his career - with a brand new team. The chemistry between him & AD is *instant* -- it took several months for Bron to gel w/ Wade/Bosh & Kyrie/Love. AD is eating so many easy shots off that pick and roll.

It's Giannis or Bron right now.

Not at the moment, the least

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm

Lebron is (as of Dec 12) 10th in defensive RPM, and
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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It’s not close.

It’s Giannis all day long.

Giannis scored 114 points in 4 games, where he averaged like 23 mins in each game. Had he played full minutes he would have scored 200 plus points.

Also his per is like 34.1 with less minutes played than lebron, Luka, and harden.
Giannis has the highest per in nba history...higher than wilt and Jordan. That is insane.

He is basically scoring the same points as his peers in way less minutes.

He is possibly the most efficient player in nba history based on Per and minutes. This is why the Bucs are usually up on their opponents big early.

Lebron, Luka and harden are playing higher minutes to produce similar results.

Giannis usage and scoring is more efficient.
Giannis is the best defender
And he is playing for a team with the best record.

He is doing some really historic shit.

Giannis played an entire month with his second best player and still dominated.

AD Is just as important as lebron, and had like what 50 points the other day.

You’ve made a case for everyone except LeBron because of your blind bias and childish fandom. I also love how you complete ignored the data O_E shared which reflects just how exceptional LeBron’s impact is on both sides of the ball.

Such desperation to try and minimize Bron at every turn. Must be exhausting to be that upset.

I don t understand you. You come in calling people names, etc

You don’t provide stats or a case, just name calling. If you disagree, just disagree and debate with your argument with information. You simply attack the poster instead of attacking the argument.

I didn’t call OE a name. I simply provided a stat to combat his argument.

A stat that is even greater than the stat he provided.

- Giannis is the best defender in The league
- the most efficient player in the league ...all while playing an exerting superior defense.
- the highest PER in nba history
- the best team in the league with the best record
- the best 3 point shooting team in the league

And for the entire month he played without the second best option on his team. He is the leading scorer for his team in the least amount of minutes than all the other mvp candidates who are leading their team in scoring.

If you want to add something meaningful go right ahead, but keep the other childish stuff to yourself.

- best team with best record

Giannis may be favorite but also since won last year may take against him slightly. I would say him or Lebron at this point in the season and Lebron could get the career votes, who knows.

I’m saying the Bucks are playing way better than lakers, in my opinion.

So they have the best team in my opinion. Giannis is even more of a MVP this year than he was last year with what he is doing right now.

Give?

They will not have to give anything. He is the best player in the league. No one else is superior on both sides of the ball. Giannis is doing Wilt and Jordan level stuff.

Anthony Davis is dropping 40 and 50 point games for the lakers. His name will definitely be in the mvp talk. No one else on the Bucks’ team is dropping 40 and 50 points.

Loses Bledsoe to a fractured leg. Huge loss. Win streak gets snapped.

Goes 48-4-14. PER: 34.25 ...

Played without Middleton for an entire month. Now he has to play without Bledsoe. That might be even tougher. Lose top PG play and a good perimeter defender.

Bad timing since the lakers are up next.

Lebron's real +- stats have him in the lead.

But the bucks were on an 18 game winning streak, tough to ride, then lose your best PG

They looked out of sync, and the chemistry was off. They did come back to almost win it. But porzingis and curry went kind of ballistic from three.

No one to really provide that backcourt defense like Bledsoe. This is where losing Brogdon through FA might rear it’s ugly head.

It changes the dynamic of the lakers game.

By quite a bit

All I can do is LOL.

Giannis loses brogdon permanently ,Middleton for a period, now Bledsoe for a period.
And still dropping basically 50 points with the greatest PER in nba history, all while going on an 18 game winning streak, with the bucks being one of the best teams in the NBA....but lebron is MVP by quite a bit, even though he has AD taking over games as well?

Clearly what Giannis is doing is way greater ..no?

Lebron is just hands down MVP?