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mrhood75
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"So, the Warriors season is functionally over. It happens"


  

          

They're saying six to eight weeks for Curry to come back, but I'd really think about shutting him down for the season. Shelve Klay and probably Looney too. Figure out if the rookies have potential. Retool and then get a lottery pick and be enough under the cap to make a really good free agent signing during the off-season.

If the Chase Center has to go through a 2015 or 2016 Levi's-esque season, I'm fine with it. I don't have much sympathy for those Silicon Valley-money shitheads.

Stupid people are going to say stupid shit and have stupid hot takes, but that's part of the game. Most of them come from fans of teams we kicked the shit out of anyway.

I'm going to need Longo or someone to tell me which college players I should be watching.

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Have you apologized for being wrong about the Durant/Green scuffle?
Oct 31st 2019
1
Lol why would Curry sit the entire season with that injury
Oct 31st 2019
2
because by the time he comes back, the hole will be to deep.
Oct 31st 2019
4
fans gonna pay that top dollar price tag at the shiny new arena
Oct 31st 2019
6
the seat licenses are sold my g.
Oct 31st 2019
8
the checks are already cashed.
Oct 31st 2019
11
eh, players play
Oct 31st 2019
26
cuz the whole franchise is a bunch of trife frontrunners
Oct 31st 2019
34
      LOL right
Nov 01st 2019
54
It's not a super strong draft class, tbh.
Oct 31st 2019
3
i feel like Cole Anthony is the next Eric Gordon.
Oct 31st 2019
5
RE: i feel like Cole Anthony is the next Eric Gordon.
Oct 31st 2019
9
or clearly you have no idea how lauded Eric Gordon was...
Oct 31st 2019
21
I agree, re: Stewart.
Oct 31st 2019
13
Cole Anthony is not even close to being hype.
Oct 31st 2019
7
You: "He's a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd."
Oct 31st 2019
10
      RE: You: "He's a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd."
Oct 31st 2019
12
      RE: You: "He's a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd."
Oct 31st 2019
14
           This is why I brought up Austin Rivers, tbh.
Oct 31st 2019
17
Didn't they say this most recent draft was 'weak' too?
Oct 31st 2019
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eh, not really before the college season started.
Oct 31st 2019
18
      that happens when you speculate on dudes that are still in high school l...
Oct 31st 2019
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           well... yeah. That's what scouting is.
Oct 31st 2019
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yeah, it's Cole Anthony vs. Anthony Edwards for #1.
Nov 06th 2019
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#FreeDangelo
Oct 31st 2019
15
I knew some of y'all was bandwagon fans.
Oct 31st 2019
19
We'll be fine
Oct 31st 2019
20
Please walk me through the logic
Oct 31st 2019
23
warriors fans really talking bout tanking the entire season.
Oct 31st 2019
25
I see it more as taking a year off
Oct 31st 2019
27
exactly - soon as they don't have the cards stacked in their favor
Oct 31st 2019
28
LOL, Lebron and the Lakers shut it down LAST SEASON.
Oct 31st 2019
29
you're comparing last year's Lakers w/ the Warriors? Yikes.
Oct 31st 2019
30
      nope.
Oct 31st 2019
31
While I agree this team should have made the playoffs
Oct 31st 2019
32
      Exactly!
Oct 31st 2019
35
           the same core???
Oct 31st 2019
36
           Same star core: Steph/Klay/Dray
Oct 31st 2019
39
                tried to sneak in that "retain Looney" huh
Oct 31st 2019
41
                     lol I'm saying though -- how are Livingston/Iggy > Russell/Looney
Oct 31st 2019
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                          2 out of your 3 major core have serious injuires.
Nov 01st 2019
44
                               Dubs have been trash to start the season with Curry healthy
Nov 01st 2019
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                               yes, that too much to ask of Steph...
Nov 01st 2019
49
                                    Ok - that's fair. Then we seem to be rating Steph similarly
Nov 01st 2019
50
                                         okay. yes, Steph is an all-time great. easily, no question.
Nov 01st 2019
51
                               he's dense bc Bron is missing playoffs and skipping games
Nov 01st 2019
46
                                    8 straight Finals.
Nov 01st 2019
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                                    I agree with Vex_ID somewhat in the sense that
Nov 01st 2019
48
                                    Also still mad at what could have been
Nov 02nd 2019
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                                         super thankful for the Dubs. Without their historic all-time team
Nov 02nd 2019
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           Oh, you’re trolling. Got it.
Oct 31st 2019
37
                man GTFOH
Oct 31st 2019
40
                     AI and a DPOY made the finals.
Oct 31st 2019
42
                          ^^^^
Nov 01st 2019
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                          imagine any other all-time greats getting blown out like the dubs did
Nov 01st 2019
60
                          exactly - but that's their front-runner nature.
Nov 01st 2019
64
                               you do know Klay is coming back don't you?
Nov 02nd 2019
71
                                    this flip side of tossing this season in the trash...
Nov 02nd 2019
75
                          y'all KEEP leaving out that the rest of the team is 19-20yo NOBODIES.
Nov 01st 2019
66
                               Bron carried Jeff Green and J.R. Smith to the *Finals*
Nov 01st 2019
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                               Bwhahah!!!!! You stinking liar!!! You sad!!
Nov 02nd 2019
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                                    * pats your simple ass on the head *
Nov 02nd 2019
74
I agree this season's a wash no need getting Steph beat up for nothing.....
Oct 31st 2019
33
      Different discussion but what do you propose?
Oct 31st 2019
38
           its different with max guys like Steph that you're paying $40+mil...
Nov 01st 2019
61
How long before Kerr has to take a medical leave again?
Nov 01st 2019
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you know that's coming soon
Nov 01st 2019
53
Anyone think Steph broke his hand on purpose?
Nov 01st 2019
55
lol
Nov 01st 2019
57
ROFLMAO (brought back the ROF for the old heads)
Nov 01st 2019
58
Season is a wrap. Period. Squad injured, broken hand
Nov 01st 2019
59
just announced breh out AT LEAST three months...
Nov 01st 2019
62
Yeah, he's not coming back this season
Nov 01st 2019
63
      LMAO. 10 week injury turns into a 10 month injury.
Nov 01st 2019
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           RE: LMAO. 10 week injury turns into a 10 month injury.
Nov 01st 2019
68
           He soft AF if he sits out a year
Nov 01st 2019
70
I just want Steve Kerr to finish sub .500 a few times
Nov 01st 2019
69
Tim Duncan ain't walking through that door.
Nov 04th 2019
77
lol. Can't see how Draymond resigns
Nov 04th 2019
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      you know draymond already extended right?
Nov 04th 2019
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      RE: you know draymond already extended right?
Nov 04th 2019
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      o shit - I didn't know he signed it already.
Nov 04th 2019
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      RE: o shit - I didn't know he signed it already.
Nov 04th 2019
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           Tell us more about how BI and the 1-6 Pels are the ones to watch.
Nov 05th 2019
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      oof
Nov 04th 2019
85
      LMFAO
Nov 05th 2019
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      You're still my guy but that was FILF levels of loud-but-wrong
Nov 06th 2019
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           Yea I was def wrong - and I owned it. It happens.
Nov 06th 2019
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                30 isn't old but 32-33, yeah, that's getting old for sure
Nov 06th 2019
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Young players are already stepping up and showing promise
Nov 04th 2019
80
i forget GR3 is only 25
Nov 04th 2019
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RE: So, the Warriors season is functionally over. It happens
Nov 05th 2019
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RE: So, the Warriors season is functionally over. It happens
Nov 05th 2019
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Damn Steve Kerr is coaching!
Nov 05th 2019
89
That was a good win (against a downward spiraling POR team)
Nov 05th 2019
91
      underestimated your Mad
Nov 08th 2019
103
           Sidekick Curry legacy is now ruined, KD peed on your trophies
Nov 08th 2019
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                Kinda miss when y’all didn’t care about us
Nov 09th 2019
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                     You guys are fantastic shape.
Nov 09th 2019
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                          RE: You guys are in fantastic shape.
Nov 09th 2019
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                               If it's a 2-9 team, All Stah is here to heap enormous praise.
Nov 10th 2019
111
Probably most asterisk heavy, least influential dynasty ever
Nov 06th 2019
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That young warrior team can ball.
Nov 06th 2019
97
i love paschalls attitude mayne.
Nov 07th 2019
98
welp....might just happen
Nov 08th 2019
99
haha wow they really are a bunch of front-runners
Nov 08th 2019
101
Wooooow.....pathetic. n/m
Nov 08th 2019
102
Must be nice
Nov 09th 2019
106
Dubs fans need to look at the bright side: Kerr gets a free season....
Nov 08th 2019
100
This team is something else.
Nov 08th 2019
105
More the reason it's wrong for Curry to miss the WHOLE SEASON
Nov 10th 2019
110
      Kerr coaching well, you mad as hell?
Nov 10th 2019
112

Vex_id
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1. "Have you apologized for being wrong about the Durant/Green scuffle?"
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There's still time.

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Deebot
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2. "Lol why would Curry sit the entire season with that injury"
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4. "because by the time he comes back, the hole will be to deep."
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with Cauley-Stein coming back, he, russell, and dray and whoever lights up off the bench from night to night MAY have gotten to an 8 seed.

they can't stretch that w/ steph out 6-8 weeks. the hill will be too steep to climb.

so, in the era of tanking...might as well tank if Klay ain't coming back especially. Steph keeps wear and tear off his body and the Dubs get a nice draft pick, potentially.

  

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6. "fans gonna pay that top dollar price tag at the shiny new arena"
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to watch a bunch of players they havent heard of?

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8. "the seat licenses are sold my g."
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11. "the checks are already cashed."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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26. "eh, players play"
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I could see going the Kawhi route with him and sitting him out more often, if they’re out of it.

But shutting it down for a whole season? Short of cautiously healing a major injury, it’s not ever good for a b-ball player to miss that amount of time IMO.

  

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34. "cuz the whole franchise is a bunch of trife frontrunners"
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Thu Oct-31-19 04:12 PM by kayru99

          

the fact that this even being considered is wiiiiild.
It's one thing if it was a knee or a foot, in like January.
They still got 78 games left to play, and it's an off-hand injury
Iverson played every year with multiple stab wounds and and the gout, and BALLED and got flawed teams to the playoffs
But this dude supposedly top 5 ever, and ready to shut it down at game 5.
FOH

  

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54. "LOL right"
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Curry doesn't want to be exposed. I don't know about the entire season, but he'll milk this injury in an attempt to shift the narrative/ take the pressure off.


Remember when dudes in here were comparing him to Magic and Zeke?


After that first game I said Curry is going to get 'hurt'- but even I didn't think it would happen this fast.


soft AF

  

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Frank Longo
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3. "It's not a super strong draft class, tbh."
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There really aren't many, if any, players that scream All-Star potential like the top couple of guys in the most recent class. Most people agree that the 2021 class is the real jewel, especially because there's a possibility that HS seniors will also be eligible in that class, so you'd get the best of two classes of recruits for the price of one.

The strongest imo would be:

Anthony Edwards at Georgia, big slashing guard-- I'm sure he went to play for Crean because he imagines himself a D-Wade type. Poor man's D-Wade probably isn't a bad comparison. Well-suited for today's game imo. If I had to pin down a #1 today, he feels safest-- but a shitty season of gunning for UGA could change that of course.

Cole Anthony, UNC, scoring guard in a PG's body-- terrific handles, good playmaker, good shooter. Remains to be seen if he ends up more like Kemba or more like Austin Rivers (who definitely had Cole's level of hype in HS), but the skill is there.

LaMelo Ball, Australia-- sigh. look, the skill is definitely there if he can learn to defend and play disciplined offense. They say he's improving in terms of discipline, and if that's the case, he could be a Top 5 pick in a weak class like this. I saw so much of him in HS and a good chunk of his Lithuania tape, so I'm still skeptical, but he's a big-ass guard with good handles and passing (when he wants to). Currently a streaky shooter, but when he's hot, he can be real hot.

James Wiseman, Memphis-- would've been a stone cold lock for the #1 pick a decade ago. Big man with elite athleticism for a big. Can potentially even dissuade players when defending the perimeter. I'm not convinced he can shoot (some are), and his offense in general is a big work in progress. Needs to gain weight. We'll see.

Isaiah Stewart, Washington-- being grossly underrated imo. 6'9, good wingspan, good size, good athleticism. High motor big who can defend 4 positions with ease and can enforce in the paint, even in the pros imo. Even has some good catch-and-shoot potential, maybe not to the 3 right now, but in the mid-range. I think he's got a high floor.

RJ Hampton, Australia-- Golden State's had success with underweight light-skinned guards with good handles and a good stroke, so y'know, that's an option. Taller than Steph, but shot selection needs work, as does his full toolkit of guard finishing moves like floaters and mid-rangers, because he's so skinny. I think people are down on him right now, but he's a Top 5 talent in this class imo.

Nico Mannion, Arizona-- do I think he's an All-Star? no, not really. some size/athleticism limitations. But he's got a terrific shot, great passing and handles, and is the best pure pass-first PG in the class imo. Always plays hard, always makes the right play, and he's a red-headed goofy-looking white kid with sick game who isn't afraid to chirp at his opponents, which is always fun to watch. Probably not what GS needs with Steph still in the mix, but I'll be watching Arizona a lot this year.

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5. "i feel like Cole Anthony is the next Eric Gordon."
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Isaiah Stewart is probably the best bet along with Anthony to jump right in.

Actually GS could really use a guy like Stewart.

I like Mannion too and Steph knows him well from Steph's camp, but you still have Steph so you don't really need Nico.

  

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9. "RE: i feel like Cole Anthony is the next Eric Gordon."
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cole is the next eric gordon?

lol.

You clearly have not watched this kid play.

  

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21. "or clearly you have no idea how lauded Eric Gordon was..."
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heading into college.

  

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13. "I agree, re: Stewart."
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While it wouldn't be pure small ball, he's versatile enough that you could stick him at the 5 with Dray at the 4 and not really lose much defense along the perimeter/in switches.

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7. "Cole Anthony is not even close to being hype."
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Greg Anthony has taught him well, and what he has over Rivers and Kemba is that he is tenacious in all facets of the game. His defense and rebounding are just as masterful as his penetration, dribbling, shooting, passing and scoring.

Kemba and Rivers are straight gunners, and do not know how to run an offense.

Cole Anthony is polished and mature behind his year. There is not a single thing overrated about the kid. His personality is not conceited or over the top.

Dude is the real deal, and could possible be a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd all in one.


The word Hype shouldn't even be associated with him ...He takes the game seriously, and he should actually be in the pros. The last time I saw a kid as polished as him, and I mean just polished and mature, was Scottie Pippen. Being in college right now is actually a waste. He is that ready.

  

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10. "You: "He's a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd.""
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Also you: "Cole Anthony isn't hype."

lol

I can easily envision a world in which he's the #1 overall pick. I've seen his tape. I'm not saying the dude isn't very good. He is. He could very well end up NPOY this season. He could also, on this UNC team, end up being more of a high-volume offense guy.

I don't think there's anything wrong with exercising caution, especially with guards whose primary skill is scoring, until we see what they do in college.

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12. "RE: You: "He's a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd.""
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“Could POSSIBLY be a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd”

  

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14. "RE: You: "He's a mix of Gary Payton and Jason Kidd.""
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>Also you: "Cole Anthony isn't hype."
>
>lol
>
>I can easily envision a world in which he's the #1 overall
>pick. I've seen his tape. I'm not saying the dude isn't very
>good. He is. He could very well end up NPOY this season. He
>could also, on this UNC team, end up being more of a
>high-volume offense guy.
>
>I don't think there's anything wrong with exercising caution,
>especially with guards whose primary skill is scoring, until
>we see what they do in college.

This is true. I understand not being over the top about his potential.
It’s just that him being the son of Greg Anthony, and how knowledgeable he is about the
Game, it’s just hard not to think highly of the kid.

  

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17. "This is why I brought up Austin Rivers, tbh."
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Because, while folks may forget, Rivers was described *very* similarly to Anthony in terms of their HS output. And it certainly helped that Austin had a dad with NBA pedigree.

Austin has always been a score-first guy, even in HS-- but Cole in HS, like Austin in HS, has also occasionally shown an unwillingness to pass and a tendency to float on offense if the ball isn't in his hands. Austin embraced being a score-first guard more, because his size (6'4/6'8 wingspan) made it easier for him to project as that in the NBA than it will for Cole (I've seen a range of heights from 6'1 to 6'3 and wingspans from 6'3.5-6'5), so Cole's been working harder in HS to be more of a passing PG than Austin was... but there's no mistaking that Cole's still a shoot-first player at this juncture, even if it's to less of an extent than Austin. Both also sometimes get lost on off-ball defense at the HS level, so there's potential reason for concern there if you're a UNC fan. People may say today "Cole's a much better 3 point shooter than Austin!", but that's hindsight once again, because people forget Austin was seen as a *deadly* shooter in HS. It's hard not to see Cole's tape and see shadows of Austin's tape, imo.

Austin was considered a very real #1 pick prospect before his freshman season started and for good reason. Cole is considered the same. I think it'd be presumptuous to say an elite ball-dominant guard *won't* hit those speedbumps when going up a level... it's all going to be about his adjustments to those bumps. There have been plenty of players who have been The Guy in HS, who are pro-ready, who make the adjustment to more ball movement and more engagement off-ball easily. Others have struggled with that adjustment, Austin being a prime example. I expect Cole to be a better pro than Austin... but I think it's fair to ask "will Cole be what Austin was supposed to be or what Austin eventually became?" Until I see him play ACC caliber opponents, I'm reserving full judgment.

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16. "Didn't they say this most recent draft was 'weak' too?"
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There's always gems/guys who are better for the NBA than college. I actually think this yr's draft was pretty strong. Yes, there's no Zion (though Edwards would be supremely on the hype train had he chosen a high profile hoops school...as is he's on the Fultz/Simmons model) but I see this year being no worse than anything drafted after him...and there's some jewels in this yrs lot as I'm sure there will be next summer.

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18. "eh, not really before the college season started."
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Thu Oct-31-19 01:22 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

People projected Cam Reddish, Romeo Langford, and Nassir Little to all be NBA All-Star caliber talents-- and some would've included Bol Bol in that list. Those projections just changed after all had disappointing seasons. Then the draft became "three possible All-Stars and change."

I think, outside of Edwards and maybe Anthony, it's hard to find projected NBA All-Stars in this year's freshman class. Things could always change during the season, of course-- but nothing could possibly compare to that 2021 Draft class, really. Like, if they combined the two classes today, I think at least four guys who'll be freshmen next season would be drafted before any of this year's freshmen-- and I'm not even including the Duke player in that list, lol.

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22. "that happens when you speculate on dudes that are still in high school l..."
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24. "well... yeah. That's what scouting is."
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You look at players and try to project how they'll do at the next level. We also see plenty of juniors and seniors in college projected as "safe picks" bust in the NBA. It's all the nature of projection.

I think it's getting harder for college scouts looking at high school players because, when it comes to elite freshmen, they can't even look at what they *can* become, only what they will be for the one season they're around (though, again, this'll be fixed with the departure of OAD in a couple years). So then players get inflated because of one or two good showings (what I think happened with Nassir Little) or they get inflated based on "uniqueness" (what I think happened with Bol Bol).

I still think Cam Reddish and Romeo Langford have high ceilings as pros. You can't blame pro scouts for being skittish after shitty showings last year, but it'll be easier (somewhat) for pro scouts to scout high school players than college scouts, because pro scouts just have to try to guess where they could be in 3-4 years, whereas college scouts have a far narrower window. They could still bust, but then again, that's the game.

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96. "yeah, it's Cole Anthony vs. Anthony Edwards for #1."
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Seen one game of each, I've seen enough, lol.

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15. "#FreeDangelo"
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and that Draymond contract looks worse and worse every day...

4 years 100 mill? lmao.

dude is garbage without 3 of the greatest shooters ever lurking on the perimeter

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19. "I knew some of y'all was bandwagon fans."
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The season is never over until it's over. It's easy to root for a team when they're successful but hard when they lose.

Support your team the same way you did when they won 73 games. My faith in the Cavs never wavered. Same way with the Lakers during Kobe's first preseason game. Man up and support the squad.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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20. "We'll be fine "
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Use this year for our young guys. See who we can continue developing

And then next year our core 3 with Looney.


The people we upset the last half decade can have their fun, for now.

  

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23. "Please walk me through the logic"
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of shelving Looney. I'm aware that he's been missing time because he's hurt, but isn't he a young cat? Why would you want to shelve him? Don't you want to kick the tires to see what you have in him?

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25. "warriors fans really talking bout tanking the entire season."
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they face a lil bit of adversity and already wanna start gaming the system.

my how the mighty hve fallen.

  

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27. "I see it more as taking a year off"
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deep playoff runs the last 5-6 years take a toll


and with Klay out anyway its better to wait to come back with our Core

  

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28. "exactly - soon as they don't have the cards stacked in their favor"
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you see how they fold, without a semblance of resistance.

Curry's injury should only have him out for 2-3 months (at most). This team still has 3 all-stars (arguably 4) - including a two-time MVP - and the talk is all about them acquiescing to failure just 4 games into the year? lol.

Imagine Bron, Kawhi or KD accepting this type of destiny? Shit is sad and is an egregious double-standard.

Curry should be able to carry his team *single-handedly* to playoff contention if he's as good as some purport - but he was getting blown out the water by 20+ points in the first few games and now people are relieved that he's injured so he can have an out?

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29. "LOL, Lebron and the Lakers shut it down LAST SEASON."
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smh.

i get it all the Steph haters trying to angle this to fit their narrative, but this is the NBA in 2019.

if the season is a wash, shut it down, try to get a lottery pick, and come back refreshed/reloaded next year.

don't try to make it more than that.

and yes, the dubs have 3 all stars still: one is out for the season, one is built to thrive off the other 3, and, let's be honest, D'Angelo is good but he's a MARGINAL All Star...if he was in the West last year he's not an All Star. shit, he's a poor mans CJ McCollum and CJ wasn't an All Star.

  

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30. "you're comparing last year's Lakers w/ the Warriors? Yikes."
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I thought this was the reigning dynasty of all ages - not a team of 19 year olds with zero all-stars outside of LeBron. Guess not.

>and yes, the dubs have 3 all stars still: one is out for the
>season, one is built to thrive off the other 3, and, let's be
>honest, D'Angelo is good but he's a MARGINAL All Star...if he
>was in the West last year he's not an All Star. shit, he's a
>poor mans CJ McCollum and CJ wasn't an All Star.

You give Bron Draymond Green, D'Angelo and the Warriors (with Klay set to return in 2020) - and he takes that team to the Finals and likely wins.

Steph? He's ready to call it a year and hope for better next season.

That's the clear difference here. It was unfair to ever elevate Curry to that kind of level - but y'all did - so now you must pay the bill.


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31. "nope."
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32. "While I agree this team should have made the playoffs"
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Even sans Klay for the year....

This is very much revisionist history. Yes, they had the KD cheat code. But they also went to 2 finals before he came, and the first one of those - nobody had pegged them being that great. I wouldn't ever say that they falter when it comes to adversity. This same team has come back from playoff deficits....they don't just FOLD. There comes a time though when it doesn't seem worth the wear and tear, and that's this year. Even 4 games in.

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35. "Exactly!"
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They have the same core in place (with D’Angelo!) this year - when everyone is healthy - which will be this year - there is no excuse for this team to not be contenders.

Yet they seem to be content with calling the season a wash after 4 games?

  

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36. "the same core???"
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Steph, Dray and ?????
like for real i dont even know who half of the niggas on this team even are.

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39. "Same star core: Steph/Klay/Dray"
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Yes you lose aged Livingston and aged Iggy - but you add D’Russell and retain Looney.

Team will and should be healthy by April - that should be motivation enough to be competitive until then - but it ain’t.
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41. "tried to sneak in that "retain Looney" huh"
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43. "lol I'm saying though -- how are Livingston/Iggy > Russell/Looney"
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or at least so markedly better that it makes all the difference?

you still got your original star core of Klay, Dray & Steph.

We're supposed to believe that ain't enough with another all-star added?

No excuses.


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44. "2 out of your 3 major core have serious injuires."
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how are you this dense? one will be out 2 months. one is out the whole year.

THE REST OF THE TEAM? Marginal NBA players all under the age of 23 who are filling the vacated roles of multi-champion vets, who barely know how to play in the league but have to suddenly shoulder the responsibility of integrating into Kerr's system and carry the Warriors to enough success in the absence of Steph and Klay to keep them CLOSE enough to the playoffs so that when Steph does come back he can push them over the hump into the playoffs (remember, Klay, though you keep talking about him, is out all year by all accounts).

just because you keep saying this stuff doesn't make it true my g.

  

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45. "Dubs have been trash to start the season with Curry healthy"
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He should only miss 6-8 weeks - this is not a major injury and not something that should sideline him for more than 10-15 games.

Are you saying that Curry can't keep his team merely competitive until Klay returns in March/April? Not a tall order for allegedly one of the greatest in the game.



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49. "yes, that too much to ask of Steph..."
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when you consider the other 'talent' on the roster.

i said what i said about all the young players and that's all true.

Draymond is an All-Star but his whole game is built off of who is around him. w/out Steph and Klay, Draymond isn't going to shine in the same light

D'Angelo isn't some generational talent. he's a very good player who shined in the weak ass Eastern Conference. now he has to go up against players like Dame Lillard and Spida Mitchell and Devin Booker and Jamal Murray EVERY NIGHT.

in this HUGE 4 game sampling (rolls eyes), yes, the Dubs were struggling with Steph. that's all attributable to having a team full of guys who've never had expectations of them on top of having to play in Kerr's system when perhaps they don't fit the system the way all the vets they lost PERFECTLY fit the Dubs system.

you're trying to compare apples and oranges. stop.

  

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50. "Ok - that's fair. Then we seem to be rating Steph similarly "
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i.e. a truly exceptional, one-of-a-kind talent and arguably the greatest sharp-shooter of all time.

But also *not* an all-time great of the stature of guys who have proven to carry the load when it matters most

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51. "okay. yes, Steph is an all-time great. easily, no question."
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is he Lebron? no.

you have to be a certain physical talent to be able to carry teams of weak players anywhere.

Lebron was/is that. Jordan was that. Shaq was that.

Steph isn't that kind of player.

that said, THIS version of the Warriors is a special kind of weak team.

  

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46. "he's dense bc Bron is missing playoffs and skipping games"
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dude is just mad as hell about it and lashing out at the Warriors

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47. "8 straight Finals."
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48. "I agree with Vex_ID somewhat in the sense that"
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it doesn't make sense for Curry to get all the accolades when everything is going well for the Warriors and for him to get none of the blame as things are starting to go sour. The dude is one the leaders of that team and is lauded as one of the better players in the league, so why is it that he doesn't shoulder some of the blame for the Warriors not performing as well as they have been in the past?

And to be clear, I'm not a LeBron stan like Vex_ID is, so I don't have an agenda axe to grind in that sense.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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72. "Also still mad at what could have been"
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Bron would have so many more rings


if it wasn't for us. Now Vex gotta keep citing "8"

  

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76. "super thankful for the Dubs. Without their historic all-time team"
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Bron wouldn't have the legacy defining moment - the most historic title in NBA history - the Cleveland '16 Title of all Titles.

That etched him forever on Mt. Rushmore as GOAT 1(a) - and counting.

Thank you, Golden State.


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37. "Oh, you’re trolling. Got it. "
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Steph healthy - this team needed to make the playoffs. Out for 2 months? Nah.

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40. "man GTFOH"
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You’re hating.

This dude loses possibly the best player in the league to FA and an injury. Then he loses possibly the best two way player in the game for a season , and now he breaks his hand , and is playing with a bunch a nobodies, so called rising star who has only had 1 season of playing at a top level, and a utility guy who can rebound and assist but cant score or shoot?

Bron has Kuzma, Ball, Ingram, and rondo last year after to being to the finals for years ..injuries settle in and they shut it down for the season!

But curry can’t do that?

Push the Fock on dude

Golden state needs to shut it down. Period. And focus on next year.

  

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42. "AI and a DPOY made the finals."
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Steph can't make the PLAYOFFS with a DPOY/all star, AND another fringe all star guy?

STEPH CURRY. The GOAT shooter. 2x MVP. etc

Okay.

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56. "^^^^"
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I can't believe how easy dudes are on Curry. Its insane.

I don't even dislike him, but folks are being straight up dishonest.


  

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60. "imagine any other all-time greats getting blown out like the dubs did "
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to start this season.
THEN getting a 6 week off-hand injury.
THEN talking about the seasons a wash after a 1-3 start.
FOOTBALL teams don't thrown in the towel after 4 games and an inury, and they only play 16 games, lol
Shit's pathetic

  

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64. "exactly - but that's their front-runner nature."
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at least the owner is pushing back against this defeatism with the "we aren't build to fold" mentality.

They would have 1 'chip without KD - and the KD 'chips were such low-degree of difficulty that now the challenge seems *immense* for them just to be competitive.

This season bout to be a worse fall-off than that Miami Wade/Shaq team that won a title and then missed the playoffs for years before being saved by Kang.


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71. "you do know Klay is coming back don't you?"
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talking like its a wrap forever because this season is done



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75. "this flip side of tossing this season in the trash..."
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is that it could be a blessing in disguise in the sense that Poole or Robinson III or someone else could use the freedom and playing time to actually turn into something for the future.

  

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66. "y'all KEEP leaving out that the rest of the team is 19-20yo NOBODIES."
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i'd like to see Bron carry that team to the playoffs since he couldn't carry the Lakers to the playoffs with all-star vets and 19-20yo SOMEBODIES.

you hate to see it.

  

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67. "Bron carried Jeff Green and J.R. Smith to the *Finals*"
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Put Steph on that '18 Cavs squad and they likely don't even make the 'offs.

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73. "Bwhahah!!!!! You stinking liar!!! You sad!!"
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>i'd like to see Bron carry that team to the playoffs since he
>couldn't carry the Lakers to the playoffs with all-star vets
>and 19-20yo SOMEBODIES.
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>you hate to see it.


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74. "* pats your simple ass on the head *"
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that's what you brought to the discussion? thank you.

  

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33. "I agree this season's a wash no need getting Steph beat up for nothing....."
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with the kind of contracts these players have today its just not smart

  

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38. "Different discussion but what do you propose?"
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Players need to get paid, and caps need to be used. I think overpaying for young talent kinda sucks but how else do you keep them?

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61. "its different with max guys like Steph that you're paying $40+mil..."
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a season guaranteed, particularly an extremely talented but smallish guard that has had injury trouble in the past. You have to protect your investment. Its just smart.

After all the wrong decisions they made with KD expect the Warriors to err on the side of caution.

  

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52. "How long before Kerr has to take a medical leave again?"
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53. "you know that's coming soon"
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55. "Anyone think Steph broke his hand on purpose? "
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57. "lol"
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58. "ROFLMAO (brought back the ROF for the old heads)"
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59. "Season is a wrap. Period. Squad injured, broken hand "
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Anybody arguing this, don’t even waste your time.


But this might be a blessing in disguise so the next young warrior star can rise up.

Glenn Robinson lll. Has been adding some nice scoring and now he has the green light to just go all out. If he can emerge as a 20 point scorer, he would be a decent replacement for Durant. So next year could be:

Curry/ Russell/ Thompson/ Green/ Willy Cauley.

And Glenn Robinson can be that scorer leading the second unit.

But that’s wishful thinking.

  

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62. "just announced breh out AT LEAST three months..."
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that would put him back at the beginning of February if everything goes perfectly.

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63. "Yeah, he's not coming back this season"
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Best case that puts him back either right before or right after the All-Star Break. Ain't much of a point at that juncture of the season. Only exception would IF Klay is somehow ready by then as well, but I really doubt that will be the case.

This season is going to be super ugly. Green, Russell, Cauley-Stein and a bunch of shooting guards. Might as well see what Poole, Evans, Paschall, and even Lee can give the team. Then retool and relaunch.

In the meantime, it's clear the stupid people are indeed saying stupid shit. Would have been lightweight disappointed otherwise.

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65. "LMAO. 10 week injury turns into a 10 month injury."
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just to save him from embarrassment. Yikes.

>In the meantime, it's clear the stupid people are indeed
>saying stupid shit.

Stupid shit like saying the KD/Green scuffle was a "non-story" and that KD would "definitely be back"?


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68. "RE: LMAO. 10 week injury turns into a 10 month injury."
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He broke is hand and had surgery on it to set the bone..


Not understanding here. He is going to be out for 3-6 months.


Sometime agendas need to be put to rest for the sake of common sense and a little bit of decency.

  

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70. "He soft AF if he sits out a year"
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Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
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69. "I just want Steve Kerr to finish sub .500 a few times"
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77. "Tim Duncan ain't walking through that door."
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I defended them to a large extent but both instincts and reality are telling me they are done as a real contender.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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78. "lol. Can't see how Draymond resigns"
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This team has been a toxic downward spiral ever since that Draymond/KD spat. The addition of KD altered the entire psyche of this team. After they got shocked in '16, their confidence took a hit and they conceded - recruiting KD. He was an absolute masterful sniper who came in and covered up any flaws the Dubs had. He was *that* good that they could just go on cruise control and turn it on when they needed to.

That dependency on KD's greatness has hurt not just their chemistry - but their psyche. KD was their killer. KD was the guy who who they leaned on in high leverage moments (2 Finals MVP performances). Without KD - their aura of invincibility is shattered. Had KD stayed with them it would've been all good, but since they only leased him for 3 years, now they gotta go back to the drawing board and try to summon old magic from '15.

Also - acting like they can just tank and get better in the draft is poor logic. The NBA has pivoted in how they adjudicate the draft - and you saw this past year that the teams who were "supposed" to get top picks actually didn't fare too well. Knicks tanked and prayed for the Zion prize - didn't get it. The draft doesn't look too deep and the notion that the Dubs can tank and acquire assets in the draft is old, tired logic that doesn't carry water in '19-'20.


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79. "you know draymond already extended right?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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81. "RE: you know draymond already extended right?"
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Lol so much to pick apart there but that was a good one

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82. "o shit - I didn't know he signed it already."
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thought it was just agreed to in principle.

I stand corrected.

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83. "RE: o shit - I didn't know he signed it already."
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LoL

You don’t watch basketball (or maybe sports in general)? It’s pretty clear.



  

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87. "Tell us more about how BI and the 1-6 Pels are the ones to watch."
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85. "oof"
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86. "LMFAO "
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92. "You're still my guy but that was FILF levels of loud-but-wrong"
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Draymond is in the fold, that's not an issue. "Recruiting KD" and his seeking them was a glove-in-hand fit. Insanely rare opportunity in the post-cap era for a team that level to be able to outright sign a player that level, could be once in a lifetime (we'll see how the next TV contract times and comes in though). I can't believe we're still even discussing that. As far as him "killing their psyche" or them growing overly dependent on him, I mean they also lost the bulk of their bench AND Klay, so I'm not really buying this speech. The tank thing, eh, if you tank properly you're still guaranteed your position+3 (e.g. team that finishes with third worst record picks sixth at worst, worst record picks fourth at worst) so the "adjudication" isn't really the issue (BTW the NBA's obsession with tanking is ridiculous, and they haven't really solved the nearly non-existent problem at all, anyway).

Now, that said, on the fundamental premises here that 1) the Warriors will not win any more titles and 2) the draft will not help them win more titles, we agree, it's just two different rationales.

Mine is a lot more straightforward. All three of their big stars will be 30 or older by season's end if I am not mistaken. Klay is coming off a major injury that will surely impact him next season if not for the rest of his career (all that is also true and then some of KD had he stayed BTW). Getting a player in the draft means getting a 19-year-old kid with practically no seasoning in an average draft. I think Maledon is the only guy who could *potentially* step onto a contender and make an impact, and even that is far from a sure thing. So yeah maybe they luck out and get Wiseman, for example, but by the time he's coming into his own their stars are going to on the brink of being washed.

The Spurs got absurdly lucky with the timing of Robinson's injury; the presence of Duncan, a polished four-year player, in the draft; and with ping pong balls. Perfect storm. Nothing like that even has the possibility of happening here.

Now the only caveat here is if they pull a rabbit out of a hat trading Russell. He doesn't really fit there, they just got him for the sake of asset management to mitigate KD's departure. He won't be long for the Dubs, and if they can get a steal in return for him, they might be back in business.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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93. "Yea I was def wrong - and I owned it. It happens. "
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>Now, that said, on the fundamental premises here that 1) the
>Warriors will not win any more titles and 2) the draft will
>not help them win more titles, we agree, it's just two
>different rationales.
>
>Mine is a lot more straightforward. All three of their big
>stars will be 30 or older by season's end if I am not
>mistaken. Klay is coming off a major injury that will surely
>impact him next season if not for the rest of his career (all
>that is also true and then some of KD had he stayed BTW).

True - but I don't think 30 is exactly old. It's usually when players are right at their peak height powers (some may have already started their physical decline, but compensate for that in terms of wisdom/experience and understanding the game at a higher level).

That said, it does go to show you just how anomalous Lebron James has been. 8 straight Finals and he's right now playing at a ridiculously high level in his 17th year about to be 35. The Warriors went to 5 straight finals - and all of the core stars have had injuries and seemingly need serious rest (while still being in their late 20's!).

>Getting a player in the draft means getting a 19-year-old kid
>with practically no seasoning in an average draft. I think
>Maledon is the only guy who could *potentially* step onto a
>contender and make an impact, and even that is far from a sure
>thing. So yeah maybe they luck out and get Wiseman, for
>example, but by the time he's coming into his own their stars
>are going to on the brink of being washed.

Right - which furthers the argument that it's not a viable plan to just tank and hope for assets in the draft. I think the Warriors should have the mentality that their star core will all be healthy *this* year - and if they get into playoffs, anything can happen. That's what their championship DNA should confer to their psyche - but it doesn't seem to be happening post-KD.

>Now the only caveat here is if they pull a rabbit out of a hat
>trading Russell. He doesn't really fit there, they just got
>him for the sake of asset management to mitigate KD's
>departure. He won't be long for the Dubs, and if they can get
>a steal in return for him, they might be back in business.

Excellent point and I think one of the reasons why they acquired him. D-Russ is a legitimate asset - and when Klay comes back there's not such a pressing need for him - but another team competing for a title may very well be willing to deal for him - but it will be interesting to see what trade value he commands in the market.


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95. "30 isn't old but 32-33, yeah, that's getting old for sure"
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And hell yes LeBron doing it not only with the age but also the mileage is just insane. Not many LeBrons out there though. Most guys start to show wear and tear in their early 30s and now the Dubs are supposed to reconfigure with a bunch of guys that age? I doubt it.


As far as tanking/no tanking, well, tanking won't save them but it might help them. They have to evaluate that internally. How many young guys might shape up by playoff time? Where is Klay in terms of a return and how much can he give them if he does come back this year? If they have positive inclinations on those things, they have try to make it as a low seed and bank on pieces locking into place at the right time. If they don't, well, then tanking couldn't hurt them.


>Excellent point and I think one of the reasons why they
>acquired him. D-Russ is a legitimate asset - and when Klay
>comes back there's not such a pressing need for him - but
>another team competing for a title may very well be willing to
>deal for him - but it will be interesting to see what trade
>value he commands in the market.

He's a versatile asset because of his age and not too enormous contract (due to it being his first big deal). I think their best bet would either be to trade for a good-value contract (e.g. Brogdon, though he won't get moved) and a future (some guy who was a top 10 pick not finding minutes yet), or to just trade him for an older big to make one big push in the next two seasons or so. But we'll see what's out there for him. But yeah I don't see him in the Bay long term.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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80. "Young players are already stepping up and showing promise"
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Glenn Robinson III has really been contributing, and showing his ability to score as well as rebound and get assists.


Poole and Lee are showing signs as well. Lee is is 10/5 right now. and Poole is putting in 10 pts a game.

That's their future bench, and Paschall is 13/8.

So if you got those 4 guys able to get you 50 points off the bench as a unit.

And then you got : Curry/russell/thompson/green/ cauley stein.

That's definitely enough to be able to contend, especially with Lebron getting old.

So their future is pretty solid, and the young players have all of this year to learn and evolve.

They will be good for the next 3 years, and then depending on their positioning they'll be able to get a good draft pick.







  

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84. "i forget GR3 is only 25"
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he played at UM a lifetime ago it seems

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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88. "RE: So, the Warriors season is functionally over. It happens"
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I was talking about this with one of my hoops cats over the weekend. They should tank this year. They will be a lottery pick for sure, and I believe they are one of the teams that has a shot to get Giannis in free agency.

  

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90. "RE: So, the Warriors season is functionally over. It happens"
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Man they have so many options...they can do that to.

But their young players are too good as Young players . They are going to keep them around the 8th seed. Those young cats are hungry and want to prove themselves.

The way they played last night. Im like yeah they are not going to fold

  

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89. "Damn Steve Kerr is coaching!"
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That young Golden State Team balled the Fock out!

No Russell. no curry . No green no Thompson.

You guys sure you want to fuck with them on some agenda shit?

  

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91. "That was a good win (against a downward spiraling POR team)"
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It's the kind of win you expect from a team with championship DNA.

Looks like G.S. isn't taking the poor advice here and trying to tank.

Good. They *should* be competitive this year.

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103. "underestimated your Mad"
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Even this iteration of the Warrior squad draws ire from you



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104. "Sidekick Curry legacy is now ruined, KD peed on your trophies"
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Worst dynasty, everyone is laughing at it


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107. "Kinda miss when y’all didn’t care about us "
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Can never go back to that of course. After the run we had


More money more problems.

  

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108. "You guys are fantastic shape."
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Those young players are eager and willing to be coached. They play hard every night, and once you get your stars back next year, it’s going to be something else.

  

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109. "RE: You guys are in fantastic shape."
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111. "If it's a 2-9 team, All Stah is here to heap enormous praise."
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94. "Probably most asterisk heavy, least influential dynasty ever"
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They played two halfway decent teams, and lost both
times

Every other team they faced was broken and/or terrible

Steph never got individual shine in the postseason,
leaving his legacy in jeopardy

Durant did by cried the entire time and left, and nuked
the team's reputation, is essentially exactly where he
was before he joined: an incredible player whose legacy
we still aren't sure about

Klay is the only dude with a solid, consistent reputation


Weird


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allStah
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97. "That young warrior team can ball."
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Man, warriors aint going nowhere.

Their bench next year is going to be ruthless. The score isn’t going to indicate it, but
That first half they were going at the rockets.

Kerr looks like he is having fun again coaching. Too see him standing on the sidelines is weird.


5 players in doubles figures . Burks 28/3/8
Paschall : 19/ 3/ 6

  

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Reeq
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98. "i love paschalls attitude mayne."
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he plays meannn.

kerr out here tryna get his popovich on. wouldnt surprise me if this team hung around just enough for steph to come back and slip into the playoffs.

  

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99. "welp....might just happen"
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/curry-injury-worse-than-originally-thought-could-be-out-for-season/ar-BBWtLaN?ocid=spartandhp

The Golden State Warriors could be without superstar Stephen Curry for the remainder of the season, according to Ric Bucher of Bleacher Report.

© Alonzo Adams-USA TODAY Sports
In a column describing Golden State’s fall from grace, Bucher reported a team source sharing that Curry’s “fracture was worse than originally thought.”

Curry injured his hand last Wednesday when he fell awkwardly, and it was immediately apparent that something wrong had happened. It didn’t take long for the Warriors to announce that Curry had a broken hand, and he underwent surgery to repair the damage.

The initial timeline released by the Warriors was that after three months, there would be an update. If that were to hold up, then there’s a chance Curry could return sometime in late February or March.

However, if the damage to his wrist was, in fact, worse than initially feared, it would not be surprising to see him miss the season entirely. Especially in light of the fact that the Warriors are likely looking at a lost season anyway due to this, and other, injuries.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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101. "haha wow they really are a bunch of front-runners"
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>https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/curry-injury-worse-than-originally-thought-could-be-out-for-season/ar-BBWtLaN?ocid=spartandhp
>
>The Golden State Warriors could be without superstar Stephen
>Curry for the remainder of the season, according to Ric Bucher
>of Bleacher Report.
>
>© Alonzo Adams-USA TODAY Sports
>In a column describing Golden State’s fall from grace,
>Bucher reported a team source sharing that Curry’s
>“fracture was worse than originally thought.”


LMAO!!! riiiiiggghhht


This dude is soft AF my god.

  

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102. "Wooooow.....pathetic. n/m"
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106. "Must be nice "
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Dude is being saved from having to do any heavy lifting.

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100. "Dubs fans need to look at the bright side: Kerr gets a free season...."
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To improve as a coach. He can experiment all he wants with different lineups and work on his craft. Kerr is the only coach in NBA history to lose an NBA finals series to a middle school defense.

Paschallba real one for sure. Dray gotta sit out the season so the tank can start moving.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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105. "This team is something else. "
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Played the Wolves to the wire hard.

D Russell punched them niggas in the mouth with a 52 point game.

This young ass squad might Be legit as hell by all Star break

Everybody can get their own shot, and they play fast.

  

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110. "More the reason it's wrong for Curry to miss the WHOLE SEASON"
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They have *another* All-Star

They have tons of young and talented guys

Any actual superstar comes back and tries to prove
that he can make a run with this team


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112. "Kerr coaching well, you mad as hell?"
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