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ConcreteCharlie
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"'Stros management: We're pieces of shit"


  

          

Read up on this ongoing situation from the ALCS, basically during the celebration their assistant GM approached a group of female reporters--one wearing a purple DV awareness wrist band who had been vocal on the topic--and taunted them about how "fucking happy (he was) that (they) got Osuna."

Nevermind that Osuna had just blown a fucking save and barely factored into the series. Nevermind that they took a known risk acquiring him as a distressed asset and now want to pretends to be victims of incessant nagging by those who think it's not OK to beat women. Nevermind that's a problem that goes beyond their own shitty little clubhouse--Chapman himself was also in a nasty DV incident and jettisoned as a result--and nevermind that this was totally unprovoked. Oh, and nevermind that there were numerous witnesses who told the same story. They still tried to deny it and call the SI report fake news, but then later gave some really shitty apology talking about "I'm a husband and a father" (um, those are prerequisites generally to abuse someone domestically, that you have someone at home to abuse!) and "sorry if I offended anyone" even though it was patently fucking obvious you were out to rub their nose in some unspecified thing during your toxic masculinity waste spill.

If I didn't love Altuve so much I'd be rooting for the Nats now. This is a PR disaster in waiting for the Stros, too, they are handling it about as poorly as possible.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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yeah, I mean....I didn’t want to believe it
Oct 22nd 2019
1
Nah, it's been confirmed by various other reporters now
Oct 22nd 2019
2
Your wokeness is beyond reproach
Oct 22nd 2019
3
Cool reply!
Oct 22nd 2019
4
What????
Oct 22nd 2019
7
who gives a fuck what you can't bring yourself to care about?
Oct 23rd 2019
11
It’s a wonder this dude replied thinking it’d go ok.
Oct 23rd 2019
12
      RE: It’s a wonder this dude replied thinking it’d go ok.
Oct 23rd 2019
14
You weren't in the room to witness it? LMAO
Jan 13th 2020
108
Yeah, fuck 'em.
Oct 22nd 2019
5
it kinda got lost in time but they were quite shitty as an org in ‘17
Oct 22nd 2019
6
Uh huh to all of this
Oct 22nd 2019
8
correct.
Oct 22nd 2019
9
TAKE IT BACK BIIIIIIIITCH!!!
Oct 23rd 2019
16
Why is everyones take that he was thankful for Osuna for blowing the sav...
Oct 22nd 2019
10
Multiple people confirming the incident and its context
Oct 23rd 2019
13
      I don't give a shit because I don't believe everything off one side? Lol
Oct 23rd 2019
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      do me a favor, describe the different "sides" here
Oct 23rd 2019
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      Lol btw nobody confirmed its context.....
Oct 23rd 2019
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           lol, the context is Osuna sucked that day
Oct 23rd 2019
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           Even if there were audio/video, what would it confirm?
Oct 23rd 2019
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                LOL cool let's just all be obtuse
Oct 23rd 2019
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                     We know he said it. We know who he said it to.
Oct 24th 2019
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                     it's not even an actual question of if it happened
Oct 24th 2019
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                          are the stros even denying it?
Oct 24th 2019
34
                               wellll, they definitely aren't now
Oct 24th 2019
38
                     why? there'd be losers like you making excuses
Oct 24th 2019
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If there's anyone I'd expect to be a raging misogynist shit bag
Oct 23rd 2019
15
another ring comin..Fuck the Nats...
Oct 23rd 2019
18
If they didn't leave so many MF'ers on base they'd be cruising
Oct 23rd 2019
23
We're going to beat these guys in 6 and shock the world
Oct 23rd 2019
24
no youre not
Oct 23rd 2019
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      You're right there. Probably not going 6
Oct 23rd 2019
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      ^^^^^^^
Oct 24th 2019
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      I guess it is going 6, blood
Oct 26th 2019
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      Maybe 7 though
Oct 28th 2019
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      HOWS THAT INTENSITY NIGGAS??? IS It THE SAME?
Oct 27th 2019
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           be careful before you get called “sanctimonious”
Oct 27th 2019
64
           Still there, never left
Oct 28th 2019
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           nigga you said alla dat bs..and we STILL got a rang....FOH
Oct 28th 2019
68
           Good grasp of history on your part. You know your shit.
Oct 28th 2019
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           RE: Good grasp of history on your part. You know your shit.
Oct 29th 2019
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                RE: Good grasp of history on your part. You know your shit.
Oct 30th 2019
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           Astros fans got to you huh
Oct 28th 2019
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           i mean this issue and the series are totally separate things
Oct 28th 2019
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           I meant 7
Oct 28th 2019
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                LMAO I know!!! LOL...Great outing by Stras even tho the umps
Oct 30th 2019
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      I wonder what the analytics say now
Oct 24th 2019
31
      ooowwww (c)Pete Rock
Oct 24th 2019
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      the ship be sinkin' (c) MRR
Oct 24th 2019
35
Gone (c)Kanye
Oct 24th 2019
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"but there's no proof" - Heinz
Oct 24th 2019
37
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct 24th 2019
44
or in such a slam dunk case
Oct 24th 2019
45
Dude I never denied he said it LOL
Oct 24th 2019
46
      man shut the fuck up
Oct 25th 2019
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      So instead of just saying you were wrong...
Oct 25th 2019
48
      What was I wrong about please tell me
Oct 25th 2019
50
           you got it, tough guy. I don't rock with the name-calling shit...
Oct 25th 2019
51
           Ah OK my guy jerks it to the Heritage Foundation handbook. Got it.
Oct 25th 2019
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           CHRIS HARDWICK ROOOOUUUUUTEEEEE
Oct 25th 2019
55
      OK so what context was there for him to say that to those people?
Oct 25th 2019
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      just stop posting shithead
Oct 25th 2019
54
damn beat me to it. i bet dude in his feelings about "cancel culture" no...
Oct 24th 2019
39
The Blaze editorial incoming in 5,4,3,2...
Oct 24th 2019
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guessing Manfred stepped in
Oct 24th 2019
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      my guess is that there is video and it comes off even worse than reporte...
Oct 24th 2019
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           At least an audio recording
Oct 24th 2019
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*googles pic of brandon taubman
Oct 25th 2019
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Stros mgmt: come and take it (our dignity)
Oct 25th 2019
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damn, Jeff
Oct 25th 2019
57
dig up, stupid!
Oct 25th 2019
58
Not like this
Oct 25th 2019
59
i didn’t even think it was possible to handle something this poorly
Oct 25th 2019
60
This firing didn’t make any sense at all.
Oct 26th 2019
61
what?
Oct 27th 2019
65
Are you confused or something?
Oct 28th 2019
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      you've completely missed the point
Oct 28th 2019
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           I didn’t miss anything...
Oct 28th 2019
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                You can’t be this dense... you just can’t
Oct 28th 2019
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the internet once again asks us: hilarious satire or obtuse opinion?
Oct 28th 2019
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      Stupid questions deserve a smart remark.
Oct 28th 2019
75
      What’s one more pea brain poster on here???
Oct 28th 2019
79
           Ouch. My feelings.
Oct 28th 2019
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                Get ‘em out of the way next time...
Oct 28th 2019
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                     Comedy.
Oct 28th 2019
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      It’s neither... it’s fact!!!!
Oct 28th 2019
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           lol you cant rub ppl noses in signing a domestic abuser
Oct 28th 2019
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           Yes, he's the fall guy but he made himself the target
Oct 29th 2019
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           not being fired because they got osuna, he's been fired for his conduct
Oct 29th 2019
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Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. And fuck you, I'm out
Oct 31st 2019
90
Astros: arrogant, overrated, and laughably soft when it matters most
Oct 31st 2019
91
RE: Astros: arrogant, overrated, and laughably soft when it matters most...
Oct 31st 2019
92
Is this the angle Nats fans want?
Oct 31st 2019
93
Exactly.
Oct 31st 2019
94
nah.
Oct 31st 2019
95
Three years, 300+ wins, a World Series, two pennants.
Nov 02nd 2019
96
RE: Overrated
Nov 04th 2019
97
Funny, I don't remember any Astros fellating Trump
Nov 04th 2019
98
so the Astros are basically the Patriots of baseball?
Nov 13th 2019
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And sadly, nobody cares
Nov 13th 2019
100
Im all for stealing signs if you can figure it out
Nov 14th 2019
101
Luhnow and Hinch suspended for one year
Jan 13th 2020
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Hinch and Lunow suspended for a year...
Jan 13th 2020
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additionally...
Jan 13th 2020
104
damn
Jan 13th 2020
107
AND STILL 2017 World Champions
Jan 13th 2020
105
Theyre comin for Alex Cora too
Jan 13th 2020
106
I'm glad, but it was a narrow escape.
Jan 13th 2020
109
THEY GONE!! HINCH and Luhnow
Jan 13th 2020
110
Damn...they fired them...both...on their day off
Jan 13th 2020
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Clearly, they both need a trade...
Jan 13th 2020
112
RE: Damn...they fired them...both...on their day off
Jan 13th 2020
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      Their only saving grace could be that Manfred's report...
Jan 13th 2020
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This is what is so different about MLB....
Jan 13th 2020
115
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-used-video-replay-room-to-ste...
Jan 14th 2020
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How was there no MLB presence in these replay rooms?
Jan 14th 2020
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and Yankees and Dodgers and prolly EVERY GOT DAMN TEAM...
Jan 14th 2020
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      Using replay room to analyze signs is fine IMO
Jan 14th 2020
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Alex...out...
Jan 14th 2020
120
Just ridiculous all around man
Jan 14th 2020
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Tim Kurkjian believes Beltran might get fired
Jan 15th 2020
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gone...
Jan 16th 2020
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      fuckin Mets man
Jan 16th 2020
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           ha
Jan 16th 2020
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           lmao
Jan 16th 2020
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           Last time we were involved with a cheating-ass Astros team,
Jan 17th 2020
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So Altuve and Bergman are next
Jan 16th 2020
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It's going to really be tough to get players unless there's a smoking gu...
Jan 16th 2020
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Was it all worth it? Got damn...
Jan 16th 2020
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MVPs and World Series
Jan 16th 2020
129
Holy shit y’all...
Jan 16th 2020
130
Interesting, I wonder who this woman is. Buzzer thing seems shaky
Jan 16th 2020
132
yeah, that’s what the guys in the vid think, as well...
Jan 16th 2020
133
peter rosenberg is on a baseball radio show?
Jan 16th 2020
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      No, a sports radio show
Jan 17th 2020
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           it's probably regular shit, but I'm only tangentially aware of him
Jan 17th 2020
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I wonder if the NFL will ever acknowledge its own cheating scandal...
Feb 11th 2020
138
the latest from The Athletic pins it mostly on Beltran
Feb 11th 2020
139
That's really good
Feb 11th 2020
140
LeBatard had an mlb guy on, yesterday...
Feb 11th 2020
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here's Cody Bellinger with a flame thrower
Feb 14th 2020
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must gall Manfred
Feb 14th 2020
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RE: 'Stros management: We're pieces of shit
Feb 14th 2020
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fuck this take
Feb 14th 2020
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RE: fuck this take
Feb 14th 2020
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      Lies...:
Feb 15th 2020
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           RE: Lies...:
Feb 15th 2020
153
no
Feb 14th 2020
145
It's the price of improved technology, but that doesn't make it okay
Feb 14th 2020
147
my man (c) Lonzo
Feb 14th 2020
149
      Hardhead Kick Door Burglars
Feb 14th 2020
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           Word up my GOB brother....
Feb 14th 2020
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Baseball is scared to really go in. Just want to put it all on one team.
Feb 15th 2020
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RE: Baseball is scared to really go in. Just want to put it all on one t...
Feb 16th 2020
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these Carlos Correa quotes are golden:
Feb 15th 2020
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RE: these Carlos Correa quotes are golden:
Feb 16th 2020
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It shouldn't be this difficult to handle this situation...
Feb 16th 2020
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If they arent gonna fine players individually they should take
Feb 16th 2020
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they took draft picks for the next two years i believe
Feb 18th 2020
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      I think they took just top picks I'm saying all rounds
Feb 19th 2020
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they could do like the NFL, burn the tapes and act like it didn't happen
Feb 18th 2020
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RE: It shouldn't be this difficult to handle this situation...
Feb 18th 2020
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      then this is gonna linger for a long time. Manfred just need to take the...
Feb 18th 2020
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           They’re not taking any titles it would set a horrible precedence and.....
Feb 18th 2020
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                Okay then they players will settle it with fights and beanings.
Feb 19th 2020
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                RE: Okay then they players will settle it with fights and beanings.
Feb 19th 2020
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                     just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean...
Feb 19th 2020
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                     RE: just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean...
Feb 19th 2020
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                          who the fuck is talking about steroids....
Feb 19th 2020
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                               RE: who the fuck is talking about steroids....
Feb 19th 2020
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                     FWIW, I don't give two fux about baseball.
Feb 19th 2020
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                I'm just talking financially can you imagine the enormity of lawsuits...
Feb 20th 2020
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It's almost comical how bad Manfred and the Astros are bungling this
Feb 18th 2020
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it really is...
Feb 19th 2020
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aside from every other thing, why and or how did he end up saying that
Feb 19th 2020
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Manfred is just doing the owner's bidding
Feb 19th 2020
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      And I don't even think that they should forfeit the title.
Feb 19th 2020
177

DJR
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1. "yeah, I mean....I didn’t want to believe it"
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because I can’t fathom anybody being that warped and scummy. I wanted to believe what he actually said and meant was twisted and intentionally misinterpreted.

But it doesn’t seem like that’s the case at all. Despicable, really.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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2. "Nah, it's been confirmed by various other reporters now"
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Nobody here, including me (the 'Stros have been my team while the Phils have been in MLB purgatory) has an anti-Stros agenda. These are people who cover the team all the time and/or work the big national games. The Chronicle reporter just piled on to the list of witnesses. There's no gray area here. For him to single out a guy who did jack shit in the game and blurt all this out in the direction of these women and this woman in particular, nah, there is no question what his intentions were. The guy is a douche and the organization is handling it in the douchiest imaginable way. It's bad for them from a PR standpoint and a focus perspective. Punt on it, say they will investigate and discipline *after the series*. Don't make it out to seem like the press is dishonest and women are sensitive. Big-time dickhead moves here.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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3. "Your wokeness is beyond reproach"
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Tue Oct-22-19 07:21 PM by Mgmt

  

          

>Read up on this ongoing situation from the ALCS, basically
>during the celebration their assistant GM approached a group
>of female reporters--one wearing a purple DV awareness wrist
>band who had been vocal on the topic--and taunted them about
>how "fucking happy (he was) that (they) got Osuna."
>
>Nevermind that Osuna had just blown a fucking save and barely
>factored into the series. Nevermind that they took a known
>risk acquiring him as a distressed asset and now want to
>pretends to be victims of incessant nagging by those who think
>it's not OK to beat women. Nevermind that's a problem that
>goes beyond their own shitty little clubhouse--Chapman himself
>was also in a nasty DV incident and jettisoned as a
>result--and nevermind that this was totally unprovoked. Oh,
>and nevermind that there were numerous witnesses who told the
>same story. They still tried to deny it and call the SI report
>fake news, but then later gave some really shitty apology
>talking about "I'm a husband and a father" (um, those are
>prerequisites generally to abuse someone domestically, that
>you have someone at home to abuse!) and "sorry if I offended
>anyone" even though it was patently fucking obvious you were
>out to rub their nose in some unspecified thing during your
>toxic masculinity waste spill.
>
>If I didn't love Altuve so much I'd be rooting for the Nats
>now. This is a PR disaster in waiting for the Stros, too, they
>are handling it about as poorly as possible.

Its bad if true, but I cannot make myself care about this. Especially since I wasn’t in the room to witness. Ill focus my energies on impeachment and our Stros.

  

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4. "Cool reply!"
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7. "What????"
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11. "who gives a fuck what you can't bring yourself to care about?"
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12. "It’s a wonder this dude replied thinking it’d go ok. "
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14. "RE: It’s a wonder this dude replied thinking it’d go ok. "
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We lost yesterday, so there’s that. Im okay otherwise.

  

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108. "You weren't in the room to witness it? LMAO"
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Sorry guy is it like a regular thing for you to hang out in the clubhouse and is the burden of proof always firsthand experience?

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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5. "Yeah, fuck 'em."
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I wasn't going to root against this time around, but they're pretty clearly a trash organization, at least in the front office.

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6. "it kinda got lost in time but they were quite shitty as an org in ‘17"
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Between the Gurriel racist shit, making a point of getting the stadium to give Bush Sr a lengthy standing O right when he was in the midst of groping allegations, and the sanctimonious way they decided to visit the White House. But the team benefited from so many feeling post-Harvey sympathy toward the city, so it was swept aside pretty quickly.
Oh and fuck em for the “take it back” arrogant bs too. Only Altuve is keeping me from fully gulping down on a keg of haterade, I just love watching him play and do well

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8. "Uh huh to all of this"
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Astros big villains, man.

______________________________

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9. "correct."
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every club has their problem players, but the way the upper tiers of Houston management blow off everything is annoying. like the team denying a Detroit reporter from being at press conferences because Verlander didn't like him.

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16. "TAKE IT BACK BIIIIIIIITCH!!!"
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10. "Why is everyones take that he was thankful for Osuna for blowing the sav..."
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Tue Oct-22-19 11:47 PM by Heinz

  

          

That trade wasn’t well received for both teams and worked out amazingly for all parties involved. Osuna was lights out and had a 0.88whip. He’s a huge reason why the get to that game and get to the WS....thats a lot to be thankful for when the initial reactions from everyone was Osuna who? Abuser who?! As far as my reaction to what happened in the clubhouse with the reporter im going to have to wait till all the info is out because theres nothing but a report that he yelled he was thankful for a trade that worked out after being criticized over. Regardless there needs to be more context for anyone to have a reasonable conclusion on it, its pretty ridiculous to make your mind up on it otherwise. Also all those journalists, cameras and mics no footage or audio?!


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ConcreteCharlie
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13. "Multiple people confirming the incident and its context"
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That's pretty strong evidence in most cases. You can say you don't give a shit, but there isn't a lot of ambiguity here.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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17. "I don't give a shit because I don't believe everything off one side? Lol"
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Wed Oct-23-19 11:41 AM by Heinz

  

          

Laughable perspective. I'm just waiting for all info before I make a judgment....like a grown up should. Not trying to react to be "first". Btw context of the situation doesn't mean nobody believes he yelled "I'm so glad we fucking got Osuna!" I don't think anyone is denying that. Why and in what context of the situation with those 3 reporters is what I'm waiting to hear.


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22. "do me a favor, describe the different "sides" here"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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19. "Lol btw nobody confirmed its context....."
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No need to lie to make yourself look right in this conversation about it. What HAS been confirmed is that he yelled those words and the 3 reporters were 8 feet away. What I don't understand is how theres no footage, no audio, nothing. We have all seen locker room celebrations for teams after a series. Was this the quiet corner? Such a weird but not surprising situation on all ends, from reactions, to this GM, to the reporter, to the report itself. Let's just wait this out for actual information to come out. Too much "I was there but didn't hear what happened" reporting. Only other fact is that GM is mad punchable, he looks like Kendall from Succession with a beard.

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20. "lol, the context is Osuna sucked that day"
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and Taubman still said "Thank God we got that guy" repeatedly to 3 female reporters. Why single out THAT player to THOSE reporters when he sucked that day? What possible explanation is there other than Taubman was being a piece of shit?

  

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21. "Even if there were audio/video, what would it confirm?"
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That he said it. The reporters present have confirmed the context. No one is offering any alternative interpretation as to why he would shout those things at that moment at those people. You sound like one of these Trump stooges who's like "well if it didn't happen right in front of my face, I really don't know if it happened!" Please, no one is saying anyone should root against the Astros or wish them ill. Just that this guy made a dick move and they're handling it poorly.

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27. "LOL cool let's just all be obtuse "
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I would love for you to get accused of something or someone you know and see if you are on this same train of not needing any proof that it happened.

  

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28. "We know he said it. We know who he said it to."
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What's at issue here? If he had some magical circumstance that made him something other than a prick waving a wife beater's success in a bunch of women's faces, at least one of whom had been vocal about the decision to acquire him? Really I am trying to figure out what the "other side" of this story is. But actually I'm not because there is none. I also think that it's rich that you are calling someone else obtuse on this. There's no dispute as to what was said and no explanation as to why. There was only an ad hominem attack denial and then an apology walking that back. Why would the witnesses lie here? For a beat writer to come out and confirm this, that's a big and potentially risky move. I'm not sure what's unknown and why you need a recording when several people with nothing to gain (and potentially standing to lose) have backed up the report and there hasn't been a denial as to what was said. He was "backing their player?" You seriously believe that is all there was to it or that that makes it acceptable? Wow.

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30. "it's not even an actual question of if it happened"
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there were multiple people there.

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34. "are the stros even denying it?"
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they're just giving some mush-minded and marble-mouthed excuse as to why it was potentially ok, not saying he didn't say it.

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38. "wellll, they definitely aren't now"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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29. "why? there'd be losers like you making excuses"
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just because

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15. "If there's anyone I'd expect to be a raging misogynist shit bag"
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It's a guy who lets his own resume literally read, "fantasy baseball expert and investment banker".

  

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18. "another ring comin..Fuck the Nats..."
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23. "If they didn't leave so many MF'ers on base they'd be cruising"
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It hurt them some in the previous series (obviously that bases loaded bottom of the 8th coming up empty in Game 6 almost killed them) but last night it was really weak.

If they don't get better situational hitting, they won't win the series. So far they've had enough base runners that it hasn't mattered, but this is going to be a tighter series between the pitching matchups and a couple real hot bats for DC.

Alvarez had a nice day at the dish yesterday and Gurriel looks like he's coming to life, too. I might consider moving Alvarez up and Brantley down, maybe swapping those lefties. If they get 3-4 guys out of Springer, Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez and Gurriel rolling at the same time, then they should be straight. They wasted an off-night from Scherzer last night though.

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24. "We're going to beat these guys in 6 and shock the world"
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25. "no youre not"
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lol

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26. "You're right there. Probably not going 6"
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33. "^^^^^^^"
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______________________________________________________________________________

"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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62. "I guess it is going 6, blood"
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66. "Maybe 7 though"
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63. "HOWS THAT INTENSITY NIGGAS??? IS It THE SAME?"
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yall niggas actin like yall been somewhere before

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64. "be careful before you get called “sanctimonious”"
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>yall niggas actin like yall been somewhere before

Great performance by the Stros. Entire lineup is back to being dangerous. No one to pitch to but...the pitcher hole

  

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67. "Still there, never left"
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I went to 3 games in my city. Damn team scored 3 runs but they still in it.

Acting like that whole franchise doesn't still have wet champagne on their uniforms from the 2017 championship. Pulling the "been there before" card doesn't work when the baseball world still remembers watching Brad Lidge's soul exit as Albert Pujols performed an exorcism from 60'6". Getting swept by a garbage White Sox team with one good hitter in the line-up. Before the Nationals were infamous for losing close divisional series, the Astros were infamous for not being in competitive ones four out of five years. You can't pull some, "Kiss the rings" Yankees shit. Franchise wise, the Nationals haven't won shit. The Astros have avoided never winning shit exactly one time. Congratulations on the tallest little person trophy.

Still one to two games to go.

  

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68. "nigga you said alla dat bs..and we STILL got a rang....FOH"
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We smell blood!! see you in H Town...

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69. "Good grasp of history on your part. You know your shit."
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Still one to two games before Astros possibly avoid never winning shit exactly two times

>I went to 3 games in my city. Damn team scored 3 runs but
>they still in it.
>
>Acting like that whole franchise doesn't still have wet
>champagne on their uniforms from the 2017 championship.
>Pulling the "been there before" card doesn't work when the
>baseball world still remembers watching Brad Lidge's soul exit
>as Albert Pujols performed an exorcism from 60'6". Getting
>swept by a garbage White Sox team with one good hitter in the
>line-up. Before the Nationals were infamous for losing close
>divisional series, the Astros were infamous for not being in
>competitive ones four out of five years. You can't pull some,
>"Kiss the rings" Yankees shit. Franchise wise, the Nationals
>haven't won shit. The Astros have avoided never winning shit
>exactly one time. Congratulations on the tallest little person
>trophy.
>
>Still one to two games to go.

  

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85. "RE: Good grasp of history on your part. You know your shit."
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>Still one to two games before Astros possibly avoid never
>winning shit exactly two times

And that would be a tip of the hat. The Astros, as constructed, might be the best team in the last ~20 years. But they'll only be remembered as such if they cover that last margin. The Nationals would go down as scrappy overachievers with a lot of talent who finally got over

  

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89. "RE: Good grasp of history on your part. You know your shit."
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Congratulations to the Nats, Nats Fans and Washington DC

>>Still one to two games before Astros possibly avoid never
>>winning shit exactly two times
>
>And that would be a tip of the hat. The Astros, as
>constructed, might be the best team in the last ~20 years. But
>they'll only be remembered as such if they cover that last
>margin. The Nationals would go down as scrappy overachievers
>with a lot of talent who finally got over

  

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71. "Astros fans got to you huh"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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74. "i mean this issue and the series are totally separate things"
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el gigante, el judio, air yordan ... these are all still my guys.

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76. "I meant 7"
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88. "LMAO I know!!! LOL...Great outing by Stras even tho the umps"
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tried to cheat yall on that tag at first..that was bullshit.... Gotta respect it...Good Luck tonite!!

ps. Soto > Harper

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31. "I wonder what the analytics say now"
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Goof

  

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32. "ooowwww (c)Pete Rock"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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35. "the ship be sinkin' (c) MRR"
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you just can't leave this many guys on base and obviously last night late in the game their pitching and defense just totally imploded.

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36. "Gone (c)Kanye"
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1187467312171016193

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37. ""but there's no proof" - Heinz"
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Astros - "there's literally tons of proof that it definitely actually happened as described."


for the thousandth time: please stop hiring yourselves as defense attorneys and investigators of claims.

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44. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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>for the thousandth time: please stop hiring yourselves as
>defense attorneys and investigators of claims.
>

I get the idea of being hesitant to join angry mobs or whatever, but it's even weirder to see dudes come out of the woodwork to defend guys they've probably never heard of till that moment.

  

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45. "or in such a slam dunk case"
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46. "Dude I never denied he said it LOL"
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What I wanted to hear was the exchange. Smh. For one side to react there has to be reason he doesn't have some domestic violence turrets LOL

But you virtue signaling ass losers too worried to show the word how you stand behind domestic violence are reasons why AMC fumbled the talking dead guy's situation LOL


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47. "man shut the fuck up"
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48. "So instead of just saying you were wrong..."
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double down and add insults?

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50. "What was I wrong about please tell me "
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LOL again you still worried about being right or wrong. Again this couldve easily and still go down the Chris Hardwic route. Who everyone jumped on from the media to the idiots like you without anyone caring or apologizing after being proven wrong. That's why I'm not quick to believe one side just because they are the victim. That's how these cases should be handled by grpwnups who have control of their feelings LOL whether it's good news or bad news I wait for the facts in any situation where anyone is accused.
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51. "you got it, tough guy. I don't rock with the name-calling shit..."
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completely voids anything you saying to me. Have a safe weekend.

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52. "Ah OK my guy jerks it to the Heritage Foundation handbook. Got it."
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"Ahhhhhh, yes! Cancel Saturday delivery in a measured maneuver to eliminate federal mail service. OMG! OMG! REDUCE DRASTICALLY SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE!!! I'M GONNA NUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!"

"Virtue signaling losers" was all I needed to hear.

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55. "CHRIS HARDWICK ROOOOUUUUUTEEEEE"
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because you know more about his situation than this one

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53. "OK so what context was there for him to say that to those people?"
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That didn't make him a sanctimonious shit bag who totally misidentified reality in every aspect of this situation?
You were asked that a bunch of times. Now you know what we all knew, the answer is none.

Also, let's be clear: This was NOTHING like the Hardwick situation, which you seem to see as some grievous injustice. It wasn't a one-sided account from the victims, it was a news report which was solid and only further solidified as *more* witnesses came forward. By the time you made your first lame ass "GOTTA HEAR BOTH SIDES" post, it was already a wrap. The organization was just desperately trying to avoid a shit storm right before the World Series. Congratulations on being the only dummy here who swallowed that tripe.

"I think like an adult." No, you think like a reactionary who deep down probably thought what he said was funny or at least acceptable.

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54. "just stop posting shithead"
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"I would love for you to get accused of something or someone you know and see if you are on this same train of not needing any proof that it happened."

there was fucking proof in the form of multiple witnesses.

just wait it out. I'm sure there will be some other abusive asshole for you to see both sides on next week.

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39. "damn beat me to it. i bet dude in his feelings about "cancel culture" no..."
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instead of thinking "wow, i really fucked up."

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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40. "The Blaze editorial incoming in 5,4,3,2..."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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41. "guessing Manfred stepped in"
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threatening Houston to make this go away or they would lose draft picks

Houston calling the initial report a flat-out lie, then half-apologizing, then having their GM say yesterday that "who knows his *real* intent"...Astros are getting punished for their continued PR idiocy more than the initial blowback

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42. "my guess is that there is video and it comes off even worse than reporte..."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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43. "At least an audio recording"
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Thu Oct-24-19 04:33 PM by ConcreteCharlie

  

          

but frankly there does not need to be. I mean what was said has been confirmed, the context is clear and it didn't need to be any worse to be actionable.

Will is also right that their handling of this made it snowball on them. Had they taken a more direct line or taken one after the series--given the appearance of sincerity and contrition, taken up more DV causes and sent the guy to counseling/appearances--maybe they could have avoided this. Once they started jumping around like three rabbits trying to fuck a football, they sealed the guy's fate. I can't say I feel sorry for him.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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49. "*googles pic of brandon taubman"
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Damn if that ain't the poster boy for misogyny

  

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56. "Stros mgmt: come and take it (our dignity)"
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https://twitter.com/benjstrauss/status/1187863337935278080

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For the record, my teams:
MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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"Si la meuf est bien physiquement, je ne refuserai pas grand chose"

  

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57. "damn, Jeff"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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58. "dig up, stupid!"
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59. "Not like this"
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https://media.giphy.com/media/wMqw4hddRzKAU/giphy.gif

  

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60. "i didn’t even think it was possible to handle something this poorly"
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>https://twitter.com/benjstrauss/status/1187863337935278080

You already fired him and admitted you were wrong... yet you also WON’T admit you were wrong. I mean this is just bizarre.

  

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hip bopper
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61. "This firing didn’t make any sense at all."
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So you think that the Asst GM was only one happy to acquire Osuna?

The owner had to sign off on that.

  

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65. "what?"
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hip bopper
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70. "Are you confused or something?"
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72. "you've completely missed the point"
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people aren't upset that he's happy a good player is on the team, they're upset that he loudly made this point to 3 women, one of whom is very outspoken about domestic violence, and that when called out on it the Astros lied. It's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that he was trying to be a dick and make these women uncomfortable.

  

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hip bopper
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77. "I didn’t miss anything..."
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>people aren't upset that he's happy a good player is on the
>team, they're upset that he loudly made this point to 3 women,
>one of whom is very outspoken about domestic violence, and
>that when called out on it the Astros lied. It's pretty
>obvious to anyone with half a brain that he was trying to be a
>dick and make these women uncomfortable.
>

First off it’s the WS. Why was the female reporter grilling him about domestic violence in the first place? Also like I stated you don’t think that the owner wasn’t happy about getting Osuna? If the Astros didn’t do enough research before acquiring Osuna then that is the fault entire front office. Of course the owner won’t fire himself, but the buck stops with him since he is paying salaries.

  

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83. "You can’t be this dense... you just can’t"
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>First off it’s the WS. Why was the female reporter grilling
>him about domestic violence in the first place?

Dude... she wasn’t. She literally didn’t say anything to the guy. He saw 3 women and decided THAT was the time to loudly proclaim how much he loved the domestic abuser (on a night when the guy actually sucked). How have you missed that part of the story?


Also like I
>stated you don’t think that the owner wasn’t happy about
>getting Osuna?

Lol, they’re probably all pieces of shit and that still isn’t the point. This guy was the one loudly bragging about the domestic abuser to 3 women, apropos of nothing. Therefore he gets the boot.

If the Astros didn’t do enough research
>before acquiring Osuna then that is the fault entire front
>office.

Lmao, of course they knew what the guy did, no one is contending they didn’t. Have you read a single article about this or did you catch 5-8 words and decide to go off?

  

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73. "the internet once again asks us: hilarious satire or obtuse opinion?"
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i can't call it

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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75. "Stupid questions deserve a smart remark."
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> So you think that the Asst GM was only one happy to acquire Osuna?

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hip bopper
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79. "What’s one more pea brain poster on here???"
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And the sheep keep on following.

  

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81. "Ouch. My feelings."
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hip bopper
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82. "Get ‘em out of the way next time..."
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Mon Oct-28-19 10:11 PM by hip bopper

          

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84. "Comedy."
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hip bopper
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78. "It’s neither... it’s fact!!!!"
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How on earth is an Asst GM the fall guy when they made the decision the acquire him collectively. Since it comes down to the response of him being %#@$! happy that they signed him. That was the sentiment of everyone in that organization, he was the only one to speak on it.

  

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80. "lol you cant rub ppl noses in signing a domestic abuser"
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thats PR 101

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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86. "Yes, he's the fall guy but he made himself the target"
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The criticism for the original move was spread across the whole team so no individual really caught a ton of heat.

We all know the GM is ultimately responsible for personnel moves but we don't know the dynamics of discussion within the team. Who was pushing for the move and why? Who was against it? We don't really know so the blame gets diluted.

But this dude gets triggered by seeing a female reporter with a domestic violence wristband in the clubhouse.... so he basically made himself the target for all that criticism that was spread across the rest of the team and front office.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
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87. "not being fired because they got osuna, he's been fired for his conduct"
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but we've seen over many years that functional literacy rates are declining, so ...

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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90. "Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. And fuck you, I'm out"
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91. "Astros: arrogant, overrated, and laughably soft when it matters most "
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92. "RE: Astros: arrogant, overrated, and laughably soft when it matters most..."
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>
Can someone point out some examples of Astros fans acting this ugly and mean spirited? Yall are going OD with the kicking dirt.

  

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93. "Is this the angle Nats fans want?"
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I agree with CallItAnything above. The Astros are an incredibly good team. Just top to bottom excellent. My team didn't just win the World Series, so party however you like. But I think the appropriate narrative here is that this run was an incredible, wild ride that featured absolutely no structural luck in forcing the Nats to beat two historically excellent teams. Like, be incredible.

______________________________

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--Walleye's Dad

  

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94. "Exactly."
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I never understood the point of beating a good team and then calling them overrated. Doesn't that diminish the quality of the win?

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95. "nah."
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I think any Nats fan can appreciate Houston being fucking good. that lineup is stupid (where is the breather? it's like facing 3-4-5 the entire game) and their pitching can be overpowering. hell of a team.

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96. "Three years, 300+ wins, a World Series, two pennants."
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And yeah they left a ton of guys but don't forget that they PUT all those guys on. They were one big inning or hell one big at-bat from WS #2. But you do your thing, your guys won.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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97. "RE: Overrated"
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The Astros did nothing to overrate themselves. They're great and the top of that lineup is the most fearful I've ever seen. "Overrated" is in response to the notion that this team was a 'dynasty' already...pumped by sports media

as for Arrogant...yea aren't they?

as for soft in big spots...didn't Hinch look like a chicken taking Greinke out? And in not going to Cole? That team had two chances to close us out at home, wiffed spectacularly both times. Part of that is baseball, but part of that seems to be a lack of conviction when they needed it most.

  

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98. "Funny, I don't remember any Astros fellating Trump"
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Funny, I don't remember any Astros fellating Trump when they won. I do however remember people citing their White House visit as one of the reasons they hate them.

Weird.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28007476/world-series-champion-nationals-celebrated-trump-white-house

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99. "so the Astros are basically the Patriots of baseball?"
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/houston-astros-accused-using-electronic-equipment-steal-pitching-signs-n1081041

  

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100. "And sadly, nobody cares"
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101. "Im all for stealing signs if you can figure it out"
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i'm not down for using electronics or even signalling per pitch to your other players, even if you didn't use electronics. That shit is pathetic. Now the Astros championship and those MVP's are less impressive. Fuck even Bregman's possible MVP for THIS year to me shouldnt even be considered. Give it to the man who deserves it, Trout.




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102. "Luhnow and Hinch suspended for one year"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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103. "Hinch and Lunow suspended for a year..."
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1216796081457111040

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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104. "additionally..."
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1216796081457111040

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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107. "damn"
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----
bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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105. "AND STILL 2017 World Champions"
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title still in tact ...fugg it

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2019 CABG Survivor

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be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

  

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106. "Theyre comin for Alex Cora too "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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109. "I'm glad, but it was a narrow escape."
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Let's face it, the NCAA would have stripped their shit. Probably the main reason the MLB didn't is that they have never done it before and they don't want to tarnish the World Series as a brand. This was pretty severe. Punishment was about what I expected, a year apiece for the guys at the helm. I wasn't sure how many picks they'd lose. This is a big penalty but it could have been even bigger.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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110. "THEY GONE!! HINCH and Luhnow"
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2019 CABG Survivor

2016 OK Survivor Champion

be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

  

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111. "Damn...they fired them...both...on their day off"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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112. "Clearly, they both need a trade..."
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113. "RE: Damn...they fired them...both...on their day off"
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They might say they're suspended or getting fired, but there's no coming back from this. All those guys, including Cora, will be "banned" from MLB.

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114. "Their only saving grace could be that Manfred's report..."
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...claims that neither knew anything about it. Which, you know, I doubt, but whatever. I'm still happy that Manfred decided that the bucks stops at the top, but it leaves it opens that everyone involved with get another job.

Since they're punishing people who don't play anymore, I'm a little surprised that they didn't bring the hammer down on Beltran, who apparently was one of the players involved.

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115. "This is what is so different about MLB...."
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The NFL caught the Patriots doing shit that was just as badd and destroyed the evidence and everyone kept their jobs. LOL.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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116. "https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-used-video-replay-room-to-ste..."
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https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-used-video-replay-room-to-steal-signs-during-2018-championship-season-per-report/

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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117. "How was there no MLB presence in these replay rooms?"
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Seems like a pretty logical thing to have

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118. "and Yankees and Dodgers and prolly EVERY GOT DAMN TEAM..."
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..was doing this shit.

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119. "Using replay room to analyze signs is fine IMO"
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Doing it in real time to then signal on each pitch is not. It's like poker, if you can catch tells on your own of opposing players to use it against them in real time cool, but if you are using cameras/electronics by someone to then relay those things to you thats fucked up.


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120. "Alex...out..."
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https://twitter.com/jcmccaffrey/status/1217241701586219009

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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121. "Just ridiculous all around man"
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Cheating, lying at the highest level, from top down.

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122. "Tim Kurkjian believes Beltran might get fired"
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123. "gone..."
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1217870847584690176

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124. "fuckin Mets man"
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the only team that could be involved in a cheating scandal and have nothing to show for it

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125. "ha"
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127. "lmao"
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135. "Last time we were involved with a cheating-ass Astros team, "
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it resulted in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZZ0w7vMz-4

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126. "So Altuve and Bergman are next "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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131. "It's going to really be tough to get players unless there's a smoking gu..."
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MLBPA will fight tooth and nail unless there is really concrete proof.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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128. "Was it all worth it? Got damn..."
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129. "MVPs and World Series"
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So probably

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130. "Holy shit y’all..."
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watch this clip. It’s cray, yesterday I was listening to LeBatard and Billy was saying how he’d read somewhere that Altuve was said to have had a device on him they notified him of certain pitches, they kinda laughed it off, but did talk about when he hit the walk off, as he was coming to home plate he yelled to his teammates do not rip off my jersey. Later in an interview when asked about he said the last time they did it, his wife was was really upset by it.

https://twitter.com/YESNetwork/status/1217917781766746114

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132. "Interesting, I wonder who this woman is. Buzzer thing seems shaky"
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I also suspect that this is a burner of an Astros player or official, or someone who left the organization.

The bulge and tape and all that shit, ehhhhhh, that seems shaky in terms of photo evidence.

But this shit is wild, man. If this does hit the fan, MLBPA will push back hard as fuck. But this will be a MAJOR issue in the next CBA, MLB will go hard to punish this kind of behavior in the future and make players accountable.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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133. "yeah, that’s what the guys in the vid think, as well..."
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this “neice” is definitely a burner account for a player. Damn, though...
https://twitter.com/RealKentMurphy/status/1217894601639505921

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134. "peter rosenberg is on a baseball radio show?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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136. "No, a sports radio show"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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137. "it's probably regular shit, but I'm only tangentially aware of him"
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so I was watching it the whole time like...why does that dude look familiar?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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138. "I wonder if the NFL will ever acknowledge its own cheating scandal..."
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https://sports.yahoo.com/report-astros-signstealing-scheme-was-one-of-the-worst-kept-secrets-in-mlb-everybody-knew-it-221700480.html

  

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139. "the latest from The Athletic pins it mostly on Beltran"
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saying Hinch was an unproven manager who'd been fired before, and there were a lot of younger players that didn't want to stand up to him.

yeah...bullshit.

oh, and I forgot Brian McCann was one of the veterans of the 2017 team. hilarious! the arbiter of baseball self-righteousness during his career shall now be known as an accomplice to the biggest cheating scandal of his generation. a big fuck off to you, good sir.

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140. "That's really good"
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>oh, and I forgot Brian McCann was one of the veterans of the
>2017 team. hilarious! the arbiter of baseball
>self-righteousness during his career shall now be known as an
>accomplice to the biggest cheating scandal of his generation.
>a big fuck off to you, good sir.

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141. "LeBatard had an mlb guy on, yesterday..."
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he was speaking on some of the details like how the Astros actually had a name for the cheating system...Codebreaker. Also said that the way that Manfred did the report, Luhnow got the brunt, even though Hinch got canned, too. There was sort of a wink and a nod that Hinch was a bit of an innocent in this, in order to ensure he would get another managing job, at some point.

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142. "here's Cody Bellinger with a flame thrower"
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https://twitter.com/i/events/1228386384978706432?s=13

it's exciting when players talk this candidly, especially when they're so obviously right

  

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148. "must gall Manfred"
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that every player in MLB has the right to publicly say he's lying sack of shit without repercussions. he knows he can't do shit to Bauer or Bellinger while every Astros player gets to skate.

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143. "RE: 'Stros management: We're pieces of shit"
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The more I think about this. The more I feel this is much ado about nothing.

Those of us in our late 30s and 40s grew up with baseball being our first love. We collected baseball cards, played little league, like every other kid. This was before basketball’s popularity influenced young black kids to move away from baseball. Before that, it was all about baseball in every community. From softball to strikeout, you had to have either a bat, glove or ball.

With that being said, baseball has always romanced with cheating since it’s birth. From taking bribes, to corked bats, to greasing the ball, to using pine tar , to filing the ball, to stealing signs. And every team has done it.

Stealing signs have always been a method in baseball, and the Astros just used a better way to do it, as well as other teams. That’s what technology does. It improves the functionality or process of a particular method or device. So of course the method in how signs are stolen are going to evolve, and everything in baseball is copied to get an advantage or be on an even playing field.

Tom House, a pitcher from the 70s stated that he was using steroids frequently in the 70s and about 6 pitchers on every staff was using steroids. So you basically had a even playing field. I look at this in the same way, where teams have video tech set up to steal signs, so the Astros sure aren’t the only ones doing it.

Stealing is stealing, so you can’t say hey it’s one thing to steal signs the old fashion way but another to use video technology. The Astros found a better way to steal signs and did it better than everyone else.


  

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144. "fuck this take"
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no offense to you my man, but seriously, fuck that take.

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146. "RE: fuck this take"
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You can't really say that when Tony Larussa and the Cardinals had the same set up, and it was set up as well back in the days of Comiskey Park.

The Boston Red Sox did the same thing. They used apple watches and video replay rooms.

If I use a physical person to steal your signs, and someone else uses a form of technology, it's the same act. The first form of recording is the human brain.

So no the Astros should not be stripped for cheating BETTER than every other team. If you want to ban them from future PO appearances, then cool, to set some type of rule or understanding.

But that's about it. All this fake outrage is laughable, when the usage of PEDs is far worse,




  

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152. "Lies...:"
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>You can't really say that when Tony Larussa and the Cardinals
>had the same set up

  

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153. "RE: Lies...:"
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Sorry to break it to you. Not lies my friend.

Using video technology to steal signs goes back to the 80s, and Larussa was a major user of it.

Sorry. This has always been part of the game. But continue with the outrage


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28503160/jack-mcdowell-says-tony-la-russa-had-sign-stealing-system-white-sox-80s%3fplatform=amp

  

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145. "no"
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.

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147. "It's the price of improved technology, but that doesn't make it okay"
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The argument that because everyone has stolen signs, doing it with video makes it okay doesn't hold water.

Baseball has long tried to pass off "acceptable" versions of cheating. Like corking bat or throwing spitters is somehow more "pure" than steroids. The answer is that's always wrong.

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149. "my man (c) Lonzo"
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them mofos still couldnt hit Astros pitching...Bellinger all cryin with 17 SOs in the 17 series..

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What up man?

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151. "Word up my GOB brother...."
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Good to see you still here...

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154. "Baseball is scared to really go in. Just want to put it all on one team."
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"We had a system in the old Comiskey Park in the late 1980s," McDowell, who coaches at Queens University, told the radio station Friday. "The Gatorade sign out in center had a light; there was a toggle switch in the manager's office and camera zoomed in on the catcher.

"I'm gonna whistle-blow this now because I'm getting tired of this crap. There was that -- Tony La Russa is the one who put it in. ... He's still in the game making half a million, you know? No one is going to go after that. It's just, this stuff is getting old where they target certain guys and let other people off the hook."



  

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157. "RE: Baseball is scared to really go in. Just want to put it all on one t..."
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>
>"We had a system in the old Comiskey Park in the late 1980s,"
>McDowell, who coaches at Queens University, told the radio
>station Friday. "The Gatorade sign out in center had a light;
>there was a toggle switch in the manager's office and
>camera zoomed in on the catcher.
>
>"I'm gonna whistle-blow this now because I'm getting tired of
>this crap. There was that -- Tony La Russa is the one who put
>it in. ... He's still in the game making half a million, you
>know? No one is going to go after that. It's just, this stuff
>is getting old where they target certain guys and let other
>people off the hook."
>

Right...if you peel back the layers and really start getting at everyone about everything related to trying to steal signs and general cheating period, this becomes steroids part 2 (with a b-side of Pete Rose foaming at the mouth trying to renew his HOF discussion).

Baseball, to me, is and has been a full of shit sport. Occasionally, it is super righteous and on some Tom Jackson 'purity of the game' talk even to its own detriment. Other times, its a 'well, everyone is doing it so let us just try to not let it get out of hand'. The HOF process is held hostage by ayyhole voters who are clinging to whatever power they have by rigging votes, voting regionally and/or with obvious bias, and/or almost always making sure no one gets a unanimous bid.

This Astros thing seems more like a group of folks figuring out newer ways to perform some old cheating. It's scumbag tomfoolery of course and hopefully the worst of it can be stopped going forward, but I am uninterested in the outrage and/or the hope that they get stripped of the title.

I hope this doesn't build a bridge to some NFL QB showing up 3 years after playing like shit in a key game and saying 'Team X pretty much knew my audibles. When I said 'chicken little' they knew what it meant. I'm suing'. Well wait...I hope that when this happens, no one GAF and folks keep it moving.

  

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155. "these Carlos Correa quotes are golden:"
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On Cody Bellinger and Houston stealing the 2017 World Series:

"Cody didn’t have a good World Series. For him to be talking about us stealing that championship, don’t talk about it. You should not be talking about it. (He) should have done something about it. When you analyze the games, we won fair and square. We earned that championship."

On Bellinger saying Altuve stole the 2017 MVP and the league has lost respect for him:

"For him to go out there and say that he lost respect for a six-time All-Star, five-time Silver Slugger, MVP, Gold Glover that has been doing this for so many years — and he didn’t cheat in 2017 because he got mad at whoever was banging the trash can while he was hitting — is just straight-up disrespectful."

"So, for me, when Cody talks about respect, you’ve got to respect your peers if you want to be respected."

On why Altuve protested so much against taking his shirt off after the 2019 ALCS:

"He doesn’t want me to talk about this, but I’m going to say it, is because he’s got an unfinished tattoo on his collarbone that honestly looked terrible. It was a bad tattoo, and he didn’t want nobody to see it. He didn’t want to show it at all. That was the reason."

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156. "RE: these Carlos Correa quotes are golden:"
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funny, because according to Altuve...he told them not to do it because his wife got angry the last time they tore his jersey off.

Another golden moment. Got home the other day to my new Eastbay book. It has Alex Bregman on the cover. The caption reads “Always Earned, Never Given”. I probably laughed heartily, for a solid five minutes.

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158. "It shouldn't be this difficult to handle this situation..."
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..While I understand that MLB refuses to strip the '17 title from the Astros, their refusal to fine AND suspend everyone involved (even if it meant an entire roster) is absolutely ridiculous.

What's crazy is that they actually have the power to do it, but simply won't. They worry about setting a "bad precedent," but that's essentially what they are creating with their inaction regarding the players involved.

Every competitive sport has issues with people working to get around the rules that govern them. Hell, most people roll with the general understanding regarding cheating:

Don't. Get. Caught.

I love baseball as a competitive sport, but MLB is an absolute joke.






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159. "If they arent gonna fine players individually they should take"
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draft picks from them for 2-3 years depending on what investigations end up finding how long they have been cheating for (they should re-open investigations), but they should also have the team banned from playoffs by giving them a significant amount of losses or banning them from the playoff contention regardless of their record. 2017 and 2018 have already been proven by the investigations that they were caught cheating, not sure why the narrative coming from the Astros is that they were only cheating in 2017.


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160. "they took draft picks for the next two years i believe"
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but draft picks arent as valuable in baseball because most of these guys never see the major leagues. Its not uncommon for a #1 overall pick to never play in the show or to fizzle out after a season. Especially getting late picks like the Stros were/are gonna get.

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166. "I think they took just top picks I'm saying all rounds "
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161. "they could do like the NFL, burn the tapes and act like it didn't happen"
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162. "RE: It shouldn't be this difficult to handle this situation..."
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Its not happening. This is baseball, not college. I’m with the commissioner. It’s over. It’s done. We move on.

Baseball has never taken titles away, and they are not going to suspend players for cheating the game in the manner that they cheated, when there are handful of teams and players who are cheating as well.

Ultimately they stole signs. That is the ultimate action, they just used a different method to steal signs. And stealing signs has always been in baseball, regardless of the method.

Time to move on.

  

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163. "then this is gonna linger for a long time. Manfred just need to take the..."
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it'd be over and done with.

and, the fans still got to experience the title and players too. they can still think like champs. they just won't actually be champs per the history books.

but that's too much like right and simple for baseball.

baseball sucks.

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165. "They’re not taking any titles it would set a horrible precedence and....."
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cost a fortune

  

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167. "Okay then they players will settle it with fights and beanings."
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I mean, what is the HORRIBLE PRECEDENT. OH GOD, so horrible that if you cheat you get called out and stripped of your title...yes, that is THE WORST.

FOH.

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168. "RE: Okay then they players will settle it with fights and beanings."
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Dude please. This is going on too long over some damn sign stealing.

Cats who took steroids to win titles, which is worse, faced nothing...roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez we’re both on steroids when they won titles for the Yankees.

Were titles stripped?

Hell no.

Go look at the history of baseball bro and stop complaining about this.

  

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169. "just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean..."
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this doesn't matter. Cuz actual guys who play major league baseball are fucking pissed and they are speaking about it more and more every day.

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172. "RE: just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean..."
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Players are pissed?

And I bet you a lot of those players are taking PEDs

Eric Gagne stated that when he was playing for the dodgers, 80 percent of the dodger players were juicing. FOH on all those cats.

So all those dodgers and whoever are complaining can shut up.

Doped up ass players pissed because another team cheated.

And Trout juiced up ass?

Man miss me with all the this.

It’s like the rattlesnake complaining to the cobra about using too much venom.

  

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173. "who the fuck is talking about steroids...."
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we're talking about a team who built a cheating program...so much so, that they gave it a damn name. Yes, players are pissed. Trout, Judge, Bellinger, Wood and more. You keep harping on steroids...dudes are getting banged for steroids, like PROMO said below. Talk about the shit that we know happened. When soomeone as connected as Tim Kurkijan says he''s talked to MULTIPLE players and execs and the prevailing thought is that teams have long tried to steal signs, but what the Astros did went so far beyond the pale...I will take fucking Tim Kurkijan's word over yours.

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174. "RE: who the fuck is talking about steroids...."
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Steroids use is cheating. Cheating is cheating.

And what im saying is you got cheating ass ped players complaining about players and a team cheating, when they are cheaters themselves.

You can cheat one way but not cheat another? Stop with the hypocrisy.

You got former players chiming in who got busted for PEDs talking about the Astros cheating.

  

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171. "FWIW, I don't give two fux about baseball."
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I don't follow the game. I don't watch it.

However, it's NOT going away.

Go tell the players to get over it.

Manfred fucked this up, period...and the people who do matter (players and fans) are pissed. Also, (I honestly don't remember) did they prove those guys took 'roids? I ask because even if they didn't, those players are still being punished in other ways. Also, for guys that take them now and get caught? Those guys get LOOOOOOOOOONG suspensions.

So, obviously they've done a better job punishing users. NOW, they can take this opportunity to start doing a better job of punishing cheaters.

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178. "I'm just talking financially can you imagine the enormity of lawsuits..."
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that would come forth from players, teams, fans, businesses...everyone that has a financial stake in the postseason would have a lawsuit. And some of that still may happen.

It would also put a ton of heat on Goodell and Kraft.

  

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164. "It's almost comical how bad Manfred and the Astros are bungling this"
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Manfred calls the Championship a "hunk of metal," then has to walk it back. Because devaluing the championship in the sport where you're the commissioner, is, you know, pretty fucking stupid. He also doesn't get to decide when it time for everyone to "move on." Fans and players are pissed at the Astros organization, and if you're not going to punish the players or the ownership for their actions and their attempt to Cuban B the entire thing, then you need to just sit back, let it play out, and just pray that the season presents other intriguing story lines.

As for the Astros organization, they're continuously fucking this up. The owner's attempts to downplay the whole thing were pretty fucking pathetic. And Alltuve trying to show off his collarbone tattoo as proof of anything is just lame.

The players want people to move on? Try giving a real, actual apology. At this point, they're still reading Statements of Regret off of pieces of paper.

Since Manfred gave them immunity, then there's no reason to detail EVERYTHING they did, in public, and give a sincere apology for doing it. Then maybe players and fans might start moving on. These guys are still in denial that they did anything wrong.

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170. "it really is..."
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he thought hitting Hinch and Luhnow was going to be what was hot...it wasn't. He never dreamed this would be happening...5 weeks before opening day.

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175. "aside from every other thing, why and or how did he end up saying that"
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like...absolute devotion to your iconography is the #1 rule of the commish


it's a silly thing, but it's literally your job

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176. "Manfred is just doing the owner's bidding"
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he works for them, not anybody else. and no team in major US sports is getting a title revoked. the owners don't want that as a possibility for their future malfeasance.

that said.

you're right about him bungling the whole issue. every new thing he says is dumber than his last statement ("we are going to punish anybody for throwing at the same Astros players who were not punished for actually cheating").

and everyone with the Astros should take Correa's advice and shut. the. fuck. up. you get to play this season so shut your fucking lying mouths and eat shit this summer.

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177. "And I don't even think that they should forfeit the title."
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I'm not even sure that the players should be suspended. However, I do know that the players, the front office, and the ownership need get the entire fuck outta here with the woe is me "It's time to move on" or "When will this end?" The fans and the players are pissed, and you fuckwits brought this all on yourselves.

>you're right about him bungling the whole issue. every new
>thing he says is dumber than his last statement ("we are going
>to punish anybody for throwing at the same Astros players who
>were not punished for actually cheating").

Yeah, forgot about that part. That was a bad look.

>and everyone with the Astros should take Correa's advice and
>shut. the. fuck. up. you get to play this season so shut your
>fucking lying mouths and eat shit this summer.

See, I think if they came absolutely clean, they might earn some good will. Pick a player, like Alltuve or Bregman. Have him get up there, and have them cop to EVERYTHING that happened. He doesn't even have to name all the players that were involved, just give an honest account of everything you did and how long that you did it. Say you and the entire organization is sorry, you understand why the fans and players are mad, you're aware you've tainted your legacy, and that it will never happen again. And then eat shit for the rest of 2020.

That might work. There's a reason A-Rod is still involved and baseball and guys like Clemens are still outcasts. A-Rod admitted that he used PEDs and didn't cop pleas (at least after it leaked that he failed the test that came after the initial Mitchell Report). Even if the explanation he gave was likely 200% bullshit, he didn't downplay anything.

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