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BrooklynWHAT
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"Zion outchea pushing a 2 time DPOY chest in for fun"


  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBvYEq8HnYA

kid looks unstoppable right out the gate. gentry got him always catching the ball on the move too.

got whatever he wanted vs Chicago too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8K0VTcSic

i know folks are still (foolishly) iffy about his jumper, but im iffy about teams being able to even force him into taking jumpers off what i seen so far.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Looks like MFers haven't realized he's lefty yet
Oct 12th 2019
1
general tournament randomness + RJ
Oct 12th 2019
2
Zion did what he did last on a team with *no shooting.*
Oct 12th 2019
3
      Top 1, you mean
Oct 18th 2019
18
      I know, I was just being polite.
Oct 18th 2019
19
      I remember this post
Jan 23rd 2020
91
How can anyone watch him and wonder about him?
Oct 12th 2019
4
Below the foul line, its like pre knee injury Larry Johnson all over aga...
Oct 13th 2019
5
larry johnson is a perfect analogy
Oct 15th 2019
11
      Except Zion is better
Oct 18th 2019
16
           Zion is the new era version.... LJ did 22 and 10 pre injury in his 2nd y...
Oct 21st 2019
45
                Pretty sure LJ was a back injury
Oct 21st 2019
46
                     RE: Pretty sure LJ was a back injury
Oct 22nd 2019
48
RE: Zion outchea pushing a 2 time DPOY chest in for fun
Oct 13th 2019
6
i love them handoffs and shovel passes they give him up top
Oct 13th 2019
7
if the league's best rim protector can't stop him at the rim
Oct 14th 2019
8
i love what they are doing to get him going, too
Oct 15th 2019
14
embiid is not going to have that shit.
Oct 18th 2019
17
Gobert? I've been saying he was overrated
Oct 14th 2019
9
Been saying he's a NBA all star since 2016, won't let up now.
Oct 14th 2019
10
i was really surprised seeing that highlight
Oct 15th 2019
12
Dude looks like Jim Brown on the basketball court
Oct 15th 2019
13
Jabari Parker got Oliver Miller arms
Oct 16th 2019
15
anyone concerned about his knee(s)...
Oct 18th 2019
20
Breaking: Woj...Zion will miss "weeks" to start the season
Oct 18th 2019
21
      ... are we surprised they're being cautious?
Oct 18th 2019
22
      who mentioned being surprised? I simply asked the room...
Oct 18th 2019
23
           If someone is concerned that a 19-year-old has a sore knee...
Oct 18th 2019
24
                agenda? There's literally no one who doesn't like him. Geez, man.
Oct 18th 2019
25
                See the two replies below though, lol.
Oct 18th 2019
28
                Is it still silly? Seems like you are running off of emotion
Oct 21st 2019
42
                     Yes, it’s still silly.
Oct 21st 2019
43
                dude if you say anything that can be remotely construed as being...
Oct 18th 2019
30
                Too bad Coach K didn’t just sit him out last year once he got hurt
Oct 19th 2019
31
                     he did, lmao
Oct 19th 2019
32
                          Sat him out for good
Oct 21st 2019
40
                               Yeah, I mean, he was medically cleared and he wanted to play.
Oct 21st 2019
44
                               Cool. Maybe the Pels should sit him for the year.
Oct 21st 2019
47
                                    Maybe? Worked for Embiid
Oct 22nd 2019
49
                                         CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER SIDEKICK GUNNER
Oct 23rd 2019
66
      this is just simple biological mechanics.
Oct 18th 2019
26
           He gotta drop the weight
Oct 18th 2019
27
                RE: He gotta drop the weight
Oct 18th 2019
29
out 6-8 weeks after surgery to repair torn right meniscus
Oct 21st 2019
33
this sux for him.
Oct 21st 2019
34
Gentry says they think it happened against the Spurs, last week
Oct 21st 2019
37
      was it when he bumped knees with someone?
Oct 21st 2019
38
           haven't seen anything that says
Oct 21st 2019
41
Well damn.
Oct 21st 2019
35
my favourite sports medicine YouTube channel called it:
Oct 21st 2019
36
his walk is all fucked up
Oct 22nd 2019
56
....and dude dropped this when it was just “soreness”
Oct 22nd 2019
58
Yeah he's good. I look at a lot of his vids too.
Oct 22nd 2019
64
Knee soreness my ass.
Oct 21st 2019
39
I'd sit him for the season
Oct 22nd 2019
50
Like Mike K should’ve??
Oct 22nd 2019
53
RE: Zion outchea pushing a 2 time DPOY chest in for fun
Oct 22nd 2019
51
Shams reporting the Pelicans don’t think it’s a weight issue.
Oct 22nd 2019
52
watch the video I posted above
Oct 22nd 2019
54
RE: Shams reporting the Pelicans don’t think it’s a weight issue.
Oct 22nd 2019
55
team doctors have never been wrong. ask kevin durant.
Oct 22nd 2019
57
well, let's break these issues down.
Oct 22nd 2019
60
      yeah i aint worried about it yet
Oct 22nd 2019
62
      young buck didnt even make it to opening day.
Oct 22nd 2019
63
      LOL. How many exploding sneakers you seen before?
Oct 23rd 2019
69
           Sure. It's also reasonable to suggest that's not the case.
Oct 23rd 2019
70
6 to 8 weeks fam
Oct 22nd 2019
59
Let's name very athletic guys w/ high verticals that didn't have a knee
Oct 22nd 2019
61
really sucks for the league that he’s out
Oct 22nd 2019
65
its physics, unless dude drops weight and/or changes his game he will...
Oct 23rd 2019
67
      and is out right now with knee soreness...
Oct 23rd 2019
68
wasnt he supposed to be back by now?
Jan 01st 2020
71
they had to teach him how to walk
Jan 01st 2020
72
Team is “hopeful” for a January return
Jan 02nd 2020
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      They should only bring him back if they truly think they're a playoff te...
Jan 02nd 2020
74
           i'd sit him out regardless
Jan 02nd 2020
75
           I say they should play him.
Jan 02nd 2020
76
                Right? If he’s healthy, play him
Jan 02nd 2020
77
I think he’s supposed to play tonight
Jan 15th 2020
78
they said in a week
Jan 15th 2020
79
Here we go
Jan 22nd 2020
80
early: he looks like he hasn't played in months. shocker
Jan 22nd 2020
81
      commentators coming up with different ways to call him fat.
Jan 22nd 2020
82
           mark jackson and van gundy already saying it was a mistake to draft
Jan 22nd 2020
84
                why are they calling this game.
Jan 22nd 2020
86
not to booger mcfarland things but zion is gonna struggle with weight
Jan 22nd 2020
83
he doesn't look fat now.
Jan 22nd 2020
85
      Right. Boy is just solid.
Jan 23rd 2020
95
      Plus he's 19? 20?
Jan 24th 2020
100
Phonte killed that ESPN hype promo though!
Jan 22nd 2020
87
17 points in a couple of minutes I think he might be an ok basketball pl...
Jan 22nd 2020
88
youtube link
Jan 23rd 2020
93
I didn't know he could hit the three like that...
Jan 23rd 2020
94
      He can shoot fine. He just hasn’t needed to
Jan 23rd 2020
96
this man just came out and did some incredible shit right quick.
Jan 23rd 2020
89
Stretch 4 Zion
Jan 23rd 2020
90
man...
Jan 23rd 2020
98
I think in two years he will be closer to 260
Jan 23rd 2020
99
Why someone say he already topped Ben Simmons career 3 point record? LOL
Jan 23rd 2020
92
lol
Jan 23rd 2020
97
btw Zion has hops. this catch behind the backboard is ridiculous
Jan 31st 2020
101
thats a dope red bull ad.
Feb 01st 2020
102
hops are insane but his dexterity is otherworldly. all the minute and
Feb 01st 2020
103
anyone in here wanna re-evaluate the whole weight/injury issue?
Oct 18th 2021
104
I think Zion is gonna take his sweet-ass time.
Oct 18th 2021
105
      would you take zion over ja if the draft were held today?
Oct 27th 2021
106
           Yes.
Oct 27th 2021
107
           i respect your loyalty.
Oct 27th 2021
108
           I couldn't like Ja more if he were literally my own son
Oct 28th 2021
109
           The best ability is availability.
Oct 31st 2021
111
seriously they dont have dude working a nutritionist?
Oct 30th 2021
110
*with
Oct 31st 2021
112
RE: seriously they dont have dude working a nutritionist?
Oct 31st 2021
113
      lmao
Oct 31st 2021
114
Draymomd say he lovin it…
Oct 31st 2021
115
iono fam.
Dec 11th 2021
116
I wouldn't necessarily say that
Dec 12th 2021
117
its not just this specific injury
Dec 12th 2021
119
who’s gonna take the weight? - Gangstarr
Dec 12th 2021
118
RE: iono fam.
Dec 12th 2021
120
In all fairness, seafood etouffee is delicious.
Dec 12th 2021
121
      Man’s on the Homer tour
Dec 12th 2021
122
      this LOL
Dec 13th 2021
123
      They said his grandma lived with him until a few weeks ago
Dec 13th 2021
124
Tank
Dec 13th 2021
125
rjcc/longo yall still taking zion over ja?
Jan 08th 2022
126
Anything changed since two months ago?
Jan 08th 2022
127
      Joel and AD are elite defenders, Zion's been a train wreck defensively
Jan 11th 2022
130
Nephew said he was in New Orleans and Zions chef made them lunch
Jan 08th 2022
128
they need to be honest and admit he isn't playing this year
Jan 08th 2022
129

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1. "Looks like MFers haven't realized he's lefty yet "
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I think the league will catchup to him

He's still got greatness in his game

But I don't foresee 82 games of 5ft and in attempts

Serious question about his game

How did Duke not run the tourney?

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2. "general tournament randomness + RJ"
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>How did Duke not run the tourney?

at the end of the day that was a 2 man team and K barely got off his seat all season.

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3. "Zion did what he did last on a team with *no shooting.*"
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No shooting, as in, Zion was the best 3-point shooter on the team, lol (he actually shot a very respectable 37% from 3 in ACC play). Anyone else of consequence for Duke shot 33% or worse from 3. So teams just started throwing 3 guys in the middle against us by season's end to slow Zion, and K's response was "keep shooting 3s, gang, we'll make enough." It was... not a good strategy.

This year, Zion will be with JJ Redick, E'Twuan Moore, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, and guys like Ingram and Holiday, guys who've had good distance shooting seasons in the past who'll benefit from improved ball movement and defensive focus on the interior. He'll still be a matchup nightmare for teams, because he's too fast for NBA bigs and too strong for NBA wings. One could argue he's a Top 3 most athletic guy in the NBA from the day he steps on the court.

How that will all work in his favor will depend on how his game continues to develop, of course. But as teams adjust to him, he'll be adjusting to them. And he's one of the hardest working, highest motor guys I've seen in college in some time. I'm not concerned about his ability to be very good and stay that way.

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18. "Top 1, you mean"
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There is no better athlete than Zion right now.

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19. "I know, I was just being polite."
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>There is no better athlete than Zion right now.

As a Duke fan, I try to avoid superlatives about my dudes to seem more partial. But yeah, in this case, the superlative is correct.

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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4. "How can anyone watch him and wonder about him?"
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Look at that fast break a little more than a minute in. How it starts. How many dudes with his strength and speed and handle combination in the league?

Then look at those plays for the comeback-- how QUICK his second jump his, how skilled he is for his size on the dribble drive, how soft his touch is inside.

lmao @ Ed Davis, looking like he's 18 again when trying to face Zion, man.

Dude's unreal.

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5. "Below the foul line, its like pre knee injury Larry Johnson all over aga..."
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Super quick and super strong with a soft touch....and he can shoot from range, which LJ really couldn't do until later in his career.

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11. "larry johnson is a perfect analogy"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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16. "Except Zion is better"
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Yes, I fully remember pre injury Larry. Zion is better by a considerable margin. Zion’s gonna be doing 25 per by next year.

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45. "Zion is the new era version.... LJ did 22 and 10 pre injury in his 2nd y..."
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3rd year, knee injury and that is it. Only difference between them is LJ wasn't shooting threes until he was a Knick as the game hwas just moving in that direction.

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46. "Pretty sure LJ was a back injury "
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48. "RE: Pretty sure LJ was a back injury "
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Yup, but same issue...playing super physical

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6. "RE: Zion outchea pushing a 2 time DPOY chest in for fun"
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He is Charles Barkley on crack

That’s how chuck was, this undersized big with a motor, able
to dribble coast to coast and dunk. No big could stop him.

  

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7. "i love them handoffs and shovel passes they give him up top"
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with a path to the rim.

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8. "if the league's best rim protector can't stop him at the rim"
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who is supposed to?

dude has ridiculous hangtime, body control and can finish with either hand.

he's going to give folks work from eight feet and in, period.

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14. "i love what they are doing to get him going, too"
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handoffs that use him like a halfback, staggered screens to get him multiple chances to receive the rock on the move, giving him paint catches and of course isos so he can attack off a pump fake or a hard first bounce.

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17. "embiid is not going to have that shit."
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9. "Gobert? I've been saying he was overrated"
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10. "Been saying he's a NBA all star since 2016, won't let up now."
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12. "i was really surprised seeing that highlight"
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Gobert was looking slow and small

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13. "Dude looks like Jim Brown on the basketball court"
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No one should bite on his fakes because he isn't settling for jumpers, like ever. Teams will make little adjustments like that but unless dudes can get all get a lot stronger overnight, he is gonna be EEEEEEEEEEEEEATING all season.

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15. "Jabari Parker got Oliver Miller arms"
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Looks like he’s been injecting creatine

Somebody should tell him that’s not the way to do it

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20. "anyone concerned about his knee(s)..."
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Woj was saying they are being cautious and this wasn't just typical preseason rest.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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21. "Breaking: Woj...Zion will miss "weeks" to start the season"
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when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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22. "... are we surprised they're being cautious?"
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If he's got some soreness, why push him right now? He's 19 in a year when they have no chance in the playoffs. Take your time with him.

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23. "who mentioned being surprised? I simply asked the room..."
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if anyone was concerned?

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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24. "If someone is concerned that a 19-year-old has a sore knee..."
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... then they've already got some Zion agenda to push, tbh.

If he ripped something major or needed a backiotomy, that'd be one thing. But a couple of weeks for knee soreness? lol, nah

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25. "agenda? There's literally no one who doesn't like him. Geez, man."
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28. "See the two replies below though, lol."
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Agendas don’t have to be “he sucks.” The agenda I always see with Zion is “he can’t play this way, he has to play this other way.” So they’re going to take a very minor soreness issue and translate it into “we know better than Zion and his coaches how Zion should play, and this proves it!” Which is, in my opinion, incredibly silly.

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42. "Is it still silly? Seems like you are running off of emotion "
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I get it.. but still, dude is huge and jumping out of the building. It’s not sustainable at his size.

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43. "Yes, it’s still silly."
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I refuse to assign a reason for back-to-back knee injuries like “it’s the physics of his body,” because I don’t understand what his body can or can’t handle, and neither does anyone else here, really.

I’m happy to re-evaluate if the shit becomes truly chronic, but seems to me people are overreacting, as they do in the 24-hour news cycle sports hot take era.

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30. "dude if you say anything that can be remotely construed as being..."
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"against" Zion people will come out the woodwork on you lol

  

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31. "Too bad Coach K didn’t just sit him out last year once he got hurt "
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32. "he did, lmao"
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Then, when he was better, Zion wanted to play, so he played.

Weird how that works!

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40. "Sat him out for good"
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But you knew what I meant.

  

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44. "Yeah, I mean, he was medically cleared and he wanted to play."
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What’s K gonna do when the player and the doctors say he’s good?

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47. "Cool. Maybe the Pels should sit him for the year. "
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Dion is who I said he was. A fucktard.

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49. "Maybe? Worked for Embiid "
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Kyrie is who I feared he was. A sidekick gunner.

  

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66. "CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER SIDEKICK GUNNER"
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The Hall of Fame got plenty of those. So...thanks.

That don’t have half-fat delusional scrubs tho.

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26. "this is just simple biological mechanics. "
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A guy with his weight, and moving explosively like a wing player, is going to do damage to his lower foundation or back.

It's like he is a guard trapped in a power forward's body. I have never seen a power forward with his weight or size move the way that he does, except for Larry Johnson and Charles Barkley, and both had to deal with back injuries during their careers. For Charles, luckily, it was at the end of his career, but Larry Johnson's career was derailed by it. The point is the way that they played and moved, and the weight that they carried, was a huge force on their bodies.

This guy plays with so much applied force, he busted out of his shoe. This guy drives to the basket like a derrick rose, and even his knees couldn't deal with his explosiveness and jumping ability.

Either he is going to have to change his style of play, similar to what Johnson had to do, or drop some serious weight.

Zion is explosive as hell. Can't wait until sportscenter's sport science does a segment on his physics.


  

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27. "He gotta drop the weight"
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It'll be to his benefit in the long run
and at the same time
Work on that 15-18ft off the dribble pull up

I want him to have a long healthy career

  

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29. "RE: He gotta drop the weight"
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agreed.

Dude is such a talent, and hungry as hell.

  

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33. "out 6-8 weeks after surgery to repair torn right meniscus"
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34. "this sux for him."
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I kinda thought he had something torn coming out of college. that shoe tearing fall was just awkward.

when are they saying this supposedly happened?

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37. "Gentry says they think it happened against the Spurs, last week"
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38. "was it when he bumped knees with someone?"
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I know that happened in one of the games.

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41. "haven't seen anything that says"
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36. "my favourite sports medicine YouTube channel called it:"
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I've Never Been More Worried Watching an NBA Game | Zion Williamson Injury Risk

"The regular season is a few days away and there's already some concern surrounding New Orleans Pelicans Zion Williamson and a possible knee injury. I've never been more worried watching a player in the NBA then when Zion Williamson is on the court. The combination of an abnormal gait pattern and his body weight and playing style make me really concerned about him getting hurt."

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56. "his walk is all fucked up"
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iont know how I never noticed that

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58. "....and dude dropped this when it was just “soreness”"
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64. "Yeah he's good. I look at a lot of his vids too. "
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He did call it.

  

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39. "Knee soreness my ass. "
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People saw this a mile away, but were called haters. It has always been evident.

Rafael Nadal comes to mind. Dude was playing tennis with great aggression and power, just like Boris Becker. And people were like there is no way his career is going to survive that way, and he would end of just like Becket. Well, it started to happen, dude started to pick up injuries, and at one point was written off. It all hit in 2012, and he had to withdraw from the Olympics. He missed a lot of time from 2014-2015, and his rankings dropped.

But, in this situation, Nadal listened, and changed his way of playing, and now he is close to passing Federer for the most Grand Slams. He is more fundamental and technical now, still showing athleticism here and there.

WE have seen this over and over with so many athletes. It's not hate.

Will Williamson drop weight and balance out his playing? He must if he wants to continue and not end up like oden, bowie, roy, etc





  

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50. "I'd sit him for the season"
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53. "Like Mike K should’ve??"
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51. "RE: Zion outchea pushing a 2 time DPOY chest in for fun"
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Damn.

Zion is the third heaviest player in the league, and he is knot knee. I didn’t know that.

  

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52. "Shams reporting the Pelicans don’t think it’s a weight issue."
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Weird that their doctors and staff would disagree with some of the medical professionals in this post!

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54. "watch the video I posted above"
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It really has to do with his gait and the way he plays

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55. "RE: Shams reporting the Pelicans don’t think it’s a weight issue."
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other medical analysts are saying the same thing.

Jay Williams ( dukie!) just stated that the issues were always there with his weight and being knot knee. When he jumps and lands his knees go in, plus the weight and force compounding the issue.

If his leg form was straight, then I guess he would be able to distribute the force and weight evenly...


So weight is an issue... I would imagine the weight drop will reduce the load on being knot knee.

  

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57. "team doctors have never been wrong. ask kevin durant."
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its funny that damn near everyone predicted he would have knee issues because of his weight.

so he has knee issues in preseason and now will miss the start of the season with knee issues...but his weight has been absolutely ruled out as a factor? lol ok.

they went from being cautious with minor soreness...to ok its a lil worse but no surgery...to ok yeah we gonna need some surgery.

why trust everything they say *now*?



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60. "well, let's break these issues down. "
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He had a knee sprain in college because his shoe exploded and his leg bent, not because of his gait/weight/whatever.

He had a bone bruise on his knee in the preseason because he banged knees with someone. Again, not his gait/weight/whatever.

I don't have info on his meniscus tear, when it happened this preseason. I'm not even saying Zion *doesn't* need to lose weight necessarily. Maybe, if non-contact knee injuries happen to him consistently, we'll know then.

But, until now, he hasn't had a knee injury without obvious cause. So I default to the fact that the kid is a freak. He shouldn't be able to do *any* of this, lol. But he can. So I'm not going to overreact to this, no matter what Twitter tells me, because one knee injury without obvious cause is not a big enough sample size to counter his freakness. Simple as that, really.

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62. "yeah i aint worried about it yet"
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63. "young buck didnt even make it to opening day. "
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i think overreacting is just reacting at this point lol.

especially with the escalating diagnosis. seems to be some pretty palpable uncertainty early on. it went from cautionary to corrective/remedial. 'weeks' turned into months. just looks like theres already some bit of panic/disarray in the organization.

the way he plays, the weight, the potential for accelerated degeneration of/around the knee joint once you start reshaping the cartilage/collagen, etc.

not a lot of cause for optimism fam.

even those acute contact/freak knee injuries you mentioned...they arent directly attributed to weight...but they do contribute to the general wear and tear of the knee, overcompensation of other parts, and just throwing off the ordinary equilibrium/balance/stability of such a complex/sensitive part of the body (small changes in angle/degree of range/motion can have significant effects).

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69. "LOL. How many exploding sneakers you seen before? "
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"He had a knee sprain in college because his shoe exploded and his leg bent, not because of his gait/weight/whatever."

how many exploding shoes have you seen?

it's perfectly reasonable to think that the exploding shoe
is a product of the force that he generates because of his
weight and explosiveness




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70. "Sure. It's also reasonable to suggest that's not the case."
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He was thirty seconds into a game with a brand new pair of shoes, making a move that didn't involve much force at all. It's not like he was coming down off a rebound or dunk. He was making a pretty straight forward move to the basket.

That and he's blown out one pair of shoes ever in... how many games of HS/AAU/college? He's done that same dribble into the basket a million times and blown out one pair of shoes. A brand new pair. Thirty seconds into a game.

I'm sure one can draw correlations when a shoe explodes with a freak athlete... but since he's never exploded a shoe before or since and wasn't making an especially athletic or forceful move when it exploded, I think it's very reasonable to chalk up the shoe explosion as freak as well.

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59. "6 to 8 weeks fam"
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61. "Let's name very athletic guys w/ high verticals that didn't have a knee"
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I'll start.

LeBron

  

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65. "really sucks for the league that he’s out "
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Takes a lot of the fun out of this season opening matchup.

Hopefully it’s just a blip and we’re overreacting. For example, Julius Randle (obviously not as explosive or big - but still a big man himself) had a season ending leg injury a few minutes into his first game, and he has hardly missed any time the last 4 years.

  

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67. "its physics, unless dude drops weight and/or changes his game he will..."
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not have a long career.

A good example to follow would probably be Blake Griffin who came into the league with ridiculous athleticism trying to dunk over everybody but had trouble staying healthy and had to adapt and change his game and develop a floor game and become more perimeter oriented.

  

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68. "and is out right now with knee soreness..."
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RJ said almost verbatim what you just said on Get Up, this morning. Blake is the closest we have to that body doing those things...and still, Zion is even more extreme.

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71. "wasnt he supposed to be back by now?"
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72. "they had to teach him how to walk "
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so his first game might be sometime this month if they're lucky.

  

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73. "Team is “hopeful” for a January return "
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74. "They should only bring him back if they truly think they're a playoff te..."
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I know they're second to last in the West, but they're only four games back from the 8 seed. While I don't necessarily love the idea of them pushing Zion back into the mix just to line up to get killed by the Lakeshow, I think it'd be great for getting the fans excited about the Zion era and could possibly even show free agents that they're not just tanking and fucking around, they're trying to win sooner rather than later.

If they don't think the playoffs are truly attainable, then just let him train this season, bring him in next year, and hope for a Top 3 pick.

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75. "i'd sit him out regardless"
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they arent a FA destination anyway. at least not for the high line talent. tank it out, get a higher draft pick and run it back next year w/ zion and ingram.

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76. "I say they should play him."
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If he's healthy, why not?

Like, is he at any more risk now to get injured than if they wait a year?
Get him out there playoffs or not. He needs playing time.

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77. "Right? If he’s healthy, play him"
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I hate this new era where no one wants to play unless they have something the play for..

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78. "I think he’s supposed to play tonight"
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79. "they said in a week"
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80. "Here we go"
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81. "early: he looks like he hasn't played in months. shocker"
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82. "commentators coming up with different ways to call him fat."
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i feel bad for dude.

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84. "mark jackson and van gundy already saying it was a mistake to draft"
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zion over ja (van gundy tried to be a lil more diplomatic about it).

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86. "why are they calling this game. "
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you don't have to pull bill walton out of mothballs, but just get someone who likes the players


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83. "not to booger mcfarland things but zion is gonna struggle with weight"
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his whole career.

injured or not.

he has that body type and its clear he isnt obsessive enough about diet to keep the pounds off during periods of lessened activity.

dudes mentality (like a lot of young cats) is prolly that he can just burn it off once he does get things rolling. but that see-sawing is gonna get harder and harder as he gets older.

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85. "he doesn't look fat now. "
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the only time he's looked doughy was at the start of summer league



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95. "Right. Boy is just solid."
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Not much flab there. And he’ll slim down even more now that he’s at full participation.

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100. "Plus he's 19? 20?"
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His body hasn't fully matured. With a full year of physical growth and NBA-level nutrition and training his body may look much different.

Some athletes are more effective carrying extra fat. Take LeBron. He went on a low-carb diet a few years ago, got really cut and looked sluggish. It wasn't until he gained about 15 pounds that he played at the level he's accustomed to.

His weight isn't going to be as much of an issue as his gait and posture.

Check out this video by Brian Stutterer (he's a YouTuber whose day job seems to be physical therapy. He breaks down his concerns about Zion's injury potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGRnMIRCtDU

  

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87. "Phonte killed that ESPN hype promo though!"
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88. "17 points in a couple of minutes I think he might be an ok basketball pl..."
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https://twitter.com/espn/status/1220208628751327232

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93. "youtube link"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHHsBsHMAiQ

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94. "I didn't know he could hit the three like that..."
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apparently the Spurs weren't aware of that either

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96. "He can shoot fine. He just hasn’t needed to"
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89. "this man just came out and did some incredible shit right quick. "
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i'ma keep praying for his knees.

but he is a singularity.


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90. "Stretch 4 Zion"
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98. "man..."
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>i'ma keep praying for his knees.
>
>but he is a singularity.

  

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99. "I think in two years he will be closer to 260"
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I'm giving him a year to enjoy baguettes and gumbo. Then he'll learn how to eat.

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92. "Why someone say he already topped Ben Simmons career 3 point record? LOL"
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97. "lol"
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101. "btw Zion has hops. this catch behind the backboard is ridiculous"
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I was watching live and I thought there was no way he'd finish it.

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1223424300708962304


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102. "thats a dope red bull ad."
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103. "hops are insane but his dexterity is otherworldly. all the minute and "
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subtle shifts he can do AFTER / DURING an explosive move is just mind-boggling.


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104. "anyone in here wanna re-evaluate the whole weight/injury issue?"
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105. "I think Zion is gonna take his sweet-ass time."
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Because the Pelicans are, right now, an absolute disaster of a roster. Some very talented players, almost none of whom mesh together well. Devonte Graham is a PG who can't create off the bounce. Jonas needs to occupy the same space on the floor as Zion. Ingram is really goddamn good, but he's most effective with the ball in his hands and would operate best on a spread-out floor so he can utilize his slashing... and, once again, they've got two post players on the floor, lol. I like a lot of their young guys, but if guys like Kira and NAW and whomever don't make a serious leap, there's a good chance the Pels are bottom 8 in the NBA. (I do like what we've seen from Trey Murphy, so that's a good sign.)

So even if Zion was ready to go by the start of the season (as early reports suggested he would be)? If I were him, I'd be like, "... let's give me another month to get pain-free." Because the Pels FO absolutely will give him whatever he wants, and he's going to want to see if there's any reason for him to work his ass off this season.

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106. "would you take zion over ja if the draft were held today?"
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107. "Yes."
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If the draft was today, and I’m drafting based on highest upside, I’m taking Zion.
If you need me to take a player to win you a game immediately today, I’m taking Ja.

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108. "i respect your loyalty."
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109. "I couldn't like Ja more if he were literally my own son"
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I would still take Zion #1

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111. "The best ability is availability."
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110. "seriously they dont have dude working a nutritionist?"
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https://twitter.com/jay_pea619/status/1454621310340849673

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112. "*with"
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113. "RE: seriously they dont have dude working a nutritionist?"
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https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9708e1679c4838ee7b7ae46d43ea9c596b025560/c=0-240-2832-4016/local/-/media/2016/01/27/LAGroup/LafayetteLA/635895111883409761-pop2.jpg

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114. "lmao"
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115. "Draymomd say he lovin it…"
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https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1454847713120501763?s=20

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116. "iono fam."
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he officially missed more games than he has played. and hes about to miss a ton more.

looking like injuries are gonna be the story of his career. gonna be even harder with the weight issues.

  

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117. "I wouldn't necessarily say that"
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zydrunas ilgauskas had multiple foot breaks and then....ironman

KD broke his foot and it was difficult for him to come back from, but otherwise has had significant healthy stretches.


it's an injury that's difficult to get healed properly, but it's not necessarily one that just happens over and over forever

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119. "its not just this specific injury"
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but a variety of lower leg injuries piling up.

plus the type of force/explosiveness he plays with and puts on his lower body.

plus the weight gain and yoyoing.

its a dangerous cycle mayne. already playing out.

  

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118. "who’s gonna take the weight? - Gangstarr "
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120. "RE: iono fam."
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>he officially missed more games than he has played. and hes
>about to miss a ton more.
>

One thing he ain't missed is double whoppers, popeye's chicken and seafood etouffee.


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121. "In all fairness, seafood etouffee is delicious."
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122. "Man’s on the Homer tour"
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123. "this LOL"
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124. "They said his grandma lived with him until a few weeks ago"
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You know he was eating good lol. Nobody telling their granny "nah my trainer says I cant have that"


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125. "Tank"
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IDK why Ingram is even playing, unless it's to showcase for a trade partner
Roll out the No Limit tanks in N.O.
Season's a wrap.

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126. "rjcc/longo yall still taking zion over ja?"
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127. "Anything changed since two months ago?"
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Last time you asked, Zion was hurt, Ja was dope. Now, Zion’s still hurt, Ja’s still dope.

But Zion on the floor is better than Ja on the floor. Zion’s already been an All-Star.

If I was given a reason to think, like, he’ll literally never play again? Sure, you go Ja. Ja’s fucking awesome.

But big men with health issues like Joel had, like AD tends to have… are still transformative players and absurd playoff weapons when on the court.

So, yeah. Nothing’s really different. Maybe next year, I’ll change my mind. Or not. He’s still only 21. And put up 27 and 7 at age 20. *shrug*

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130. "Joel and AD are elite defenders, Zion's been a train wreck defensively "
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so far in the league. Granted he is young and been dealing with injuries to start his career so doesn't necessarily mean he can't improve on D. But even with his insane athleticism, at 6'6" he will never be the type of rim protector / defensive anchor they are, so he is not going to be a transformative two-way big man in the mold of those guys.

Now he could be an offensive force in a mold that we have really never quite seen before. But with the questions on his health already right off the bat to start his career, and with Ja taking a superstar turn right before our eyes, right today I would take Ja over him without hesitation.


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128. "Nephew said he was in New Orleans and Zions chef made them lunch"
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and now he knows why Zion aint losing weight anytime soon.. lol

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129. "they need to be honest and admit he isn't playing this year"
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cause that's damn sure what i thought when this injury was first announced w/ how NO avoided being definitive about the situation

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