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"Soooooo the Rockets might have to fire Daryl Morey"


  

          

He tweeted out support for the protests in Hong Kong and China has now severed all ties w/ the Rockets.

Here's a good summary of the weekend's events
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/10/6/20901828/daryl-morey-hong-kong-china-houston-rockets-tweet-controversy

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RE: Soooooo the Rockets might have to fire Daryl Morey
Oct 06th 2019
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45 doesn't give a shit about hk
Oct 06th 2019
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      RE: 45 doesn't give a shit about hk
Oct 06th 2019
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           like rjcc said...45 doesn't give a shit about hk
Oct 06th 2019
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                RE: like rjcc said...45 doesn't give a shit about hk
Oct 07th 2019
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                     fam do you actually look at the people you are quoting?
Oct 07th 2019
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                     RE: fam do you actually look at the people you are quoting?
Oct 07th 2019
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                     you apparently can't read
Oct 07th 2019
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this is standard corporate response to apartheid, the holocaust, etc.
Oct 06th 2019
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in a league where I imagine most of the owners do business in china
Oct 07th 2019
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meh, he walked it back within a day
Oct 07th 2019
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      well, Trump is something we can realistically do something about.
Oct 07th 2019
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           huh? What does that have to do with showing support to HK?
Oct 07th 2019
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                Just noting why the American president is more fair game than China.
Oct 07th 2019
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                     gotcha
Oct 07th 2019
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                     RE: Just noting why the American president is more fair game than China.
Oct 07th 2019
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                          you don't know shit about shit
Oct 07th 2019
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                               RE: you don't know shit about shit
Oct 07th 2019
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                                    it ain't about agreeing. you're a fucking dumbass
Oct 07th 2019
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Ugh this shit sucks
Oct 07th 2019
11
I don't think the NBA understands what is going on here.
Oct 07th 2019
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I'm 50/50 on this
Oct 07th 2019
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RE: I'm 50/50 on this
Oct 07th 2019
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did you see the owner's tweet? They're not firing him
Oct 07th 2019
25
All that grandstanding about bathrooms in Charlotte....
Oct 07th 2019
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did anybody have to go jail in china over the bathroom law?
Oct 07th 2019
24
Chinese Communist Party hardliners buy sneakers too
Oct 12th 2019
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Fuck China
Oct 07th 2019
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These pretty much sums up where America and government figures stand.
Oct 07th 2019
27
just stop b.
Oct 07th 2019
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That's interesting
Oct 07th 2019
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      RE: That's interesting
Oct 07th 2019
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Melo's Fault
Oct 07th 2019
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Prolly shoulda let some other GM handle it but fuck it, he's right
Oct 07th 2019
32
any of the people talking about China ask about Kashmir?
Oct 07th 2019
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damn, y'all don't give a fuuuuuck about kashmir forreal?
Oct 08th 2019
39
Nike and Mark Parker did the same thing to one of their Shoe Designers.
Oct 07th 2019
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and then nike went out of business, according to all of your earlier pos...
Oct 07th 2019
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This is a time when NBA stars need to stand up for social justice
Oct 07th 2019
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stand up and do what exactly?
Oct 08th 2019
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      Umm...they could like...refuse to play in China.
Oct 08th 2019
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      Stand up for human rights?
Oct 08th 2019
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           k, no plan then
Oct 08th 2019
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                lol did they need a "plan" to speak out against police brutality?
Oct 09th 2019
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                     yes, actually. they had one. and executed it.
Oct 09th 2019
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                          right. the plan was to speak their mind and not normalize brutality
Oct 09th 2019
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.
Oct 08th 2019
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so much for all that More Than an Athlete stuff
Oct 08th 2019
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Silver said My Name is Bennett and I aint in it (NBA Statement)
Oct 08th 2019
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Good, better late than never.
Oct 08th 2019
45
RE: Silver said My Name is Bennett and I aint in it (NBA Statement)
Oct 08th 2019
46
the only hope the NFL has of existing in 25 years is hiring this guy
Oct 08th 2019
49
Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.
Oct 08th 2019
47
I need to know what good Twitter ever did for anyone
Oct 08th 2019
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you can't be tweeting about shit you don't know about
Oct 08th 2019
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I was thinking about this on the way in to work
Oct 08th 2019
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don't tell people what you think about
Oct 09th 2019
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An extremely important thing to remember about Twitter
Oct 09th 2019
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      Exactly. It's an echo chamber of echo chambers
Oct 09th 2019
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           imagine being this dumb of a motherfucker
Oct 09th 2019
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Lakers/Nets have to move to a different building, dicey situation
Oct 09th 2019
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China is it's own worst enemy
Oct 09th 2019
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      RE: China is it's own worst enemy
Oct 09th 2019
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      RE: China is it's own worst enemy
Oct 10th 2019
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      RE: China is it's own worst enemy
Oct 10th 2019
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shoutout to these 6ers fans
Oct 09th 2019
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Do you know how many of the NBA's star have huge business in China?
Oct 09th 2019
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      It's quickly moving past that IMO
Oct 09th 2019
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      lmao, absolutely not. How did you think I thought this?
Oct 09th 2019
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           If Lebron loses Chinese money his great grandkids are still set for life...
Oct 09th 2019
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                but when you're mega-rich, you don't really care about that.
Oct 10th 2019
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                     being around billionaires is wild
Oct 10th 2019
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      You seem to be normalizing this though.
Oct 09th 2019
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           once again, I'm *not excusing this whatsoever.*
Oct 10th 2019
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                Understood - and I completely get what you're saying.
Oct 10th 2019
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                     I hope you're right, I really do.
Oct 10th 2019
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                     It’s not disposable income that they won’t miss
Oct 12th 2019
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                          RE: It’s not disposable income that they won’t miss
Oct 13th 2019
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45 taking shots...
Oct 09th 2019
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RE: 45 taking shots...
Oct 09th 2019
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      you'd be so much of a better person if you didn't ever say anything at a...
Oct 09th 2019
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           .
Oct 10th 2019
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Phase 1 trade deal agreed upon
Oct 13th 2019
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...
Feb 01st 2020
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Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league...
Jan 30th 2020
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because it wouldve been a bad for the league's image to fire him
Jan 30th 2020
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Technically the league couldn’t fire him but Silver could’ve...
Jan 30th 2020
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Per woj, i think he’ll survive that:
Jan 30th 2020
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RE: Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league...
Jan 30th 2020
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RE: Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league...
Jan 30th 2020
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      RE: Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league...
Jan 30th 2020
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Lol@ he fucked it up
Jan 31st 2020
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Lol@ he fucked it up
Feb 01st 2020
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he gone.
Oct 15th 2020
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he'd probably be out if that never happened
Oct 15th 2020
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The in-season trades to me showed that the writing was on the wall
Oct 15th 2020
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China: you want that billion dollar contract back?
Oct 15th 2020
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      you can both be the best league on social issues and be tone deaf on Chi...
Oct 16th 2020
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           RE: you can both be the best league on social issues and be tone deaf on...
Oct 16th 2020
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           All I want to know is why Lebron lie after Morey put
Oct 16th 2020
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           Cut the crap.
Oct 16th 2020
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           why would you write a reply to this dude?
Oct 16th 2020
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He basically out-Hollinger’d Hollinger
Oct 17th 2020
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he about to take control of the Process....
Oct 28th 2020
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lol
Oct 28th 2020
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Simmons is about to get traded, right?
Oct 28th 2020
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This would be terrific for both parties.
Oct 28th 2020
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poor Doc
Oct 28th 2020
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Cloaked
Oct 28th 2020
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so do they trade Embiid or Simmons for Harden?
Oct 28th 2020
110
In what, "Close But No" Cigars?
Oct 28th 2020
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and what does this mean for Elton Brand?
Oct 28th 2020
111

allStah
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1. "RE: Soooooo the Rockets might have to fire Daryl Morey"
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Sun Oct-06-19 09:13 PM by allStah

          

Sheeit!

Rockets will do no such thing, nor the NBA.

With a trade war going on with China, and Trump implementing tariffs on any and everybody that goes against him?

Hell thats what trump wants ,all American businesses to remove all associations or investments with China.

If Morey were to get tired fired or forced to step down, Adam Silver would feel the wrath of the White House, since America has vehemently stated its support for Hong Kong , and for China to acknowledge the 50 year treaty that was signed from when the British gave back Hong Kong.

  

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2. "45 doesn't give a shit about hk"
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3. "RE: 45 doesn't give a shit about hk"
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Obviously you don’t keep up with politics.

Larry Kudlow the white house’s economic advisor :

“However, Kudlow said the strong U.S. support of Hong Kong's democracy protests could have a negative impact on the China trade talks.
"I do know we continue to monitor the Hong Kong freedom and democracy movement, which the U.S. supports very strongly. That could impinge the talks," Kudlow said.”


Hong Kong situation is an element for the White House to use as pressure
Point with its battle with China. All tactical.

So again if the nba were say anything against morey for supporting Hong Kong , it would be a huge shit storm for the nba ..because the entire western front supports Hong kong’s Democratic stance , and it would be seen as pro-China, which would be seen as unpatriotic and anti-democratic.



  

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4. "like rjcc said...45 doesn't give a shit about hk"
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/trump-xi-hong-kong-protests/index.html
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Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled

During a private phone call in June, President Donald Trump promised Chinese President Xi Jinping that the US would remain quiet on pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong while trade talks continued, two sources familiar with the call tell CNN.

The remarkable pledge to the Chinese leader is a dramatic departure from decades of US support for human rights in China and shows just how eager Trump is to strike a deal with Beijing as the trade war weighs on the US economy.

And like other calls with the leaders of Ukraine, Russia and Saudi Arabia, records of Trump's call with Xi were moved to a highly-classified, codeword-protected system, greatly limiting the number of administration officials who were aware of the conversation.
Trump's commitment to China had immediate and far-reaching effects throughout the US government as the President's message was sent far and wide.

In June, the State Department told then-US general counsel in Hong Kong, Kurt Tong, to cancel a planned speech on the protests in Washington because the President had promised Xi no one from the administration would talk about the issue.

Tong was also slated to speak at a Washington-based think tank in early July but the State Department asked for that event to be canceled as well. That speech was ultimately rescheduled for after Tong's scheduled retirement later that month meaning he eventually had the opportunity to speak about Hong Kong but as a former official.
The Financial Times first reported some details of the President's commitment.

At the time, reporters asked State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus if Tong was barred from making a tough speech after Trump and Xi's trade truce during the G20 summit.

"I believe that that was based off of anonymous reports, and that's not something that we ever validate here at the State Department. I don't see much truth to that," she responded.

Trump has deferred to China on the situation in Hong Kong when asked about it publicly in recent months.

"Well, something is probably happening with Hong Kong because when you look at, you know, what's going on, they've had riots for a long period of time. And I don't know what China's attitude is," Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House on August 1.

"Somebody said that at some point they're going to want to stop that. But that's between Hong Kong and that's between China, because Hong Kong is a part of China. They'll have to deal with that themselves. They don't need advice," he added.

He echoed that sentiment in a tweet on August 14.
"I know President Xi of China very well. He is a great leader who very much has the respect of his people. He is also a good man in a 'tough business.' I have ZERO doubt that if President Xi wants to quickly and humanely solve the Hong Kong problem, he can do it. Personal meeting?"

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6. "RE: like rjcc said...45 doesn't give a shit about hk"
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Dude, who do you think is finically supporting their protest, and overtly backing it?

We are. The focal point is to stop china’s global market domination by any tactic that is necessary. It’s simply a way to frustrate their government, and to exhaust their resources, no matter how small of an act it is.


It’s no different the Arab Spring, which the CIA instigated to have certain leaders who were against the dollar to be removed.


“The U.S. is not satisfied in overt oral support for Hong Kong but resorts to financial backing,” the state English-language television network, CGTN, wrote with inexact grammar in an article posted on its website and included in the ministry’s report. The article went on to argue that the endowment acted in concert with the Central Intelligence Agency “in covert actions against governments.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/world/asia/china-hong-kong-protests.amp.html

  

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7. "fam do you actually look at the people you are quoting?"
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trumps econ director and chinese state television.

both with a long history of saying shit that isnt true.

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14. "RE: fam do you actually look at the people you are quoting?"
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The point is that America and Americans strongly support the movement of Hong Kong and its fight to maintain its freedom and democratic existence, as well as other Western and Liberated countries.

And it is more of a huge negative for China, considering everything that they are dealing with in regards to the trade war and the tariffs that have hit them. China has had to make a lot of concessions during this entire ordeal, because their entire economy is highly dependent on export. And America is their largest Consumer.

I don't think negatively or positively about China, or any other country, because it all comes down to culture, systems, and the way of life of each country. We don't all live or govern the same way. It's all about what works best for the people and the country. And it's all tactical, where one country wants to be more powerful and in control than the other.

And whether our Administration is sincere about its dealing or support is neither here nor there, because what history has taught us, is that our country or any other country will side with whatever action is necessary to get the advantage.

  

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8. "you apparently can't read"
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5. "this is standard corporate response to apartheid, the holocaust, etc."
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corporations have generally been on the wrong side of history (initially) when it comes to human rights abuses.

they have to be shamed and threatened with bad pr, stockholder revolts, consumer boycotts, etc to eventually do the right thing.

s/o to morey for brining attention to it (we should include uyghur muslims being put into chinese concentration camps too). he called out an authoritarian government and they replied by doing authoritarian government things.

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9. "in a league where I imagine most of the owners do business in china"
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and one of thme now *is chinese* I'm not sure who people expected the league to side with.


even if you really did think adam silver was some great humanitarian instead of a skilled corporate cog....his only option would be to quit. it is simply not possible to set fire to that relationship, and you see how quick morey backed off.



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10. "meh, he walked it back within a day"
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>s/o to morey for brining attention to it (we should include
>uyghur muslims being put into chinese concentration camps
>too). he called out an authoritarian government and they
>replied by doing authoritarian government things.

this is all very dirty and depressing, between the owner's, NBA's and now Harden's response. Trump is fair game but I guess China is a bridge too far

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12. "well, Trump is something we can realistically do something about."
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DC won't, but in theory, DC *could.* DC can't do *shit* about China.

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15. "huh? What does that have to do with showing support to HK?"
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17. "Just noting why the American president is more fair game than China."
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It's weird to say, but the NBA doesn't need Trump as much as it needs China, because Trump is far more disposable.

Not saying it's right, obviously-- in a perfect world, of course the NBA stands up for HK. It's just... not going to happen.

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18. "gotcha"
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your "we" threw me for a bit of a loop. I lived in HK as a kid so I'm definitely more tuned in than the average person in the US, but still the speed at which the NBA machine groveled to China bummed me out

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19. "RE: Just noting why the American president is more fair game than China."
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But now they are getting backlash from Americans and American fans,
especially since we are dealing with an economical war with China.

And with how nationalistic and patriotic white Americans are, not sure the
NBA should have jumped so quickly..

  

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23. "you don't know shit about shit"
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26. "RE: you don't know shit about shit"
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We don’t have to agree. But see the responses for yourself. These are American responses. Simply hit twitter and Facebook to see them.

“Dear Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey,
I would love to continue supporting the team so long as the team holds to a few common sense ideals like, say, Democracy. Sad to see our Rockets misfire by apologizing to Communists.
Regretfully,
John E. Kostik, Watchman on the Ball”

“I remember when standing up for freedom and those fighting for it wasn’t controversial. Daryl Morey is the GM of the Houston Rockets. He tweeted out support for the people of Hong Kong. China responded to his tweet by severing all ties with the team and the NBA issued a statement distancing themselves from the tweet. Morey later deleted the tweet. NBA All-Star James Harden of the Rockets issued a statement apologizing to China. What a bunch of money hungry cowards! They should be standing with Hong Kong, not apologizing to a brutal communist government.”

“It is a rare day I agree with much in Rolling Stone magazine. However, the NBA, Houston Rockets & Tilman Fertitta
clearly chose money over the human rights of seven million people. The NBA (and basketball in general) is huge
on the mainland. But to see them do this is disgusting. Stifle an employee because his opinion might
make the government in Beijing unhappy...makes sense.”

  

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28. "it ain't about agreeing. you're a fucking dumbass"
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11. "Ugh this shit sucks"
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13. "I don't think the NBA understands what is going on here."
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You start to walk back on comments, or support movements that are against democracy and liberation, it's not going to go well.


America is a democratic state, with a strong foundation and focus on freedom ( or alleged freedom). Hong Kong is fighting for its liberation and freedom, and for the UK/China treaty to continue to be acknowledged correctly.

You think the protests and boycotts against the NFL regarding Kap's kneeling was an explosive issue, this will be far greater than that. Up until know, the NBA never had to face anything of that nature. There was the Donald Sterling situation, but the NBA quickly addressed that situation, and that was more of an isolated issue, and not a global one.

Morey showing his support for people fighting for their lives, liberation and to have a democratic existence, and showing his support while living in a country that is supposed to be the symbol of freedom, and for the NBA To buckle because China is pulling its affiliations , it could be perceived that they are backing communism or a communistic country.

That would also be perceived that business ties and business affairs are more important than the welfare and well being of people.

So for Harden to come out and say or try to save face with the people of China, all while the people of Hong Kong are being physically, politically, and verbally harmed........Really speaks volumes on what is being considered as more important. And would be hypocritical, since ball players here are at home are always talking about social justice, police brutal, as well as demonstrating with tshirts, tweets, etc.







  

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16. "I'm 50/50 on this"
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I think he made a mistake and really should have known better. He must know how sensitive/paranoid China is to the situation.

On the other hand, I hope the Rockets stand by him and diffuse the situation but with strength. Not acting pussy whipped by the Chinese.

  

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20. "RE: I'm 50/50 on this"
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>I think he made a mistake and really should have known
>better. He must know how sensitive/paranoid China is to the
>situation.
>
>On the other hand, I hope the Rockets stand by him and diffuse
>the situation but with strength. Not acting pussy whipped by
>the Chinese.

So he should have held his tongue to fight for freedom, because oppressors
Of that freedom are very sensitive? Are black athletes told or should hold their tongue
when taking about police brutality because it might upset or bother law enforcement or the police force? When police officers threatened to pull police protection away from sporting events because players were speaking out against police officers regarding the Trayvon Martin issue, they weren’t told they should have held their tongue.

It seems to me that Morey has decency and humanism.

It’s shocking to see players and the nba rushing and scrambling to apologize to china
and the people of China as if they are the ones being oppressed. But hey, you gotta protect your brand and money first, right?

I might be done with the NBA after this. I mainly watch soccer and football anyway.

  

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25. "did you see the owner's tweet? They're not firing him"
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but he does business in china.

there is no "standing by him"

unless you're planning on giving up anything you have in china. their government doesn't play that shit.

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21. "All that grandstanding about bathrooms in Charlotte...."
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but when it comes to Chinese dollars, they’re not gonna rock that boat.

Silver is a pandering pussy.

  

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24. "did anybody have to go jail in china over the bathroom law?"
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because I think all they had to do was reschedule an all-star game

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80. "Chinese Communist Party hardliners buy sneakers too"
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<----- Long Live The King

  

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22. "Fuck China "
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_______________________________________________
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27. "These pretty much sums up where America and government figures stand."
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“Multiple senators including Minority Leader Chuck Schumer criticize the NBA for how it responded to Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey's pro-Hong Kong tweet.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/senators-slam-nba-for-yielding-to-china-over-morey-hong-kong-tweet.html

Elizabeth Warren:

“China is trying to use its market power to silence free speech and criticism of its conduct. In response, the NBA chose its pocketbook over its principles—and our values. We should all be speaking out in support of those protesting for their rights. “

  

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29. "just stop b."
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31. "That's interesting"
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Are those Senators going to do more than wag their twitter fingers at the NBA and China in response to what's going on with the Hong Kong situation, much less the years and years of human rights violations that have been occurring in China?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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33. "RE: That's interesting"
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I believe you already know the answer to that. It's definitely going to be something that is verbally and visually supported. We're talking about a government that does not protect the many cultures of this country that have been brutalized. Hell, Native American reservations and the people are constantly attacked and beaten by people of law enforcement, and there is not one big protest in site to protect them or any government officials talking about it.

Now I do believe some of the politicians are absolutely sincere, but are they really going to push, push the envelope? The more pressure that is on China the better from the administration stance. So you know they are going to beat that drum.

But my whole point of posting that info was how this thing was going to backfire on the NBA for immediately supporting China, and how it was going to be perceived by the American people and the American government. Especially forcing an employee to back track on statements of freedom?

Silver and the rockets so concerned about Chinese fans and businesses, he forgot about the american fans, government and business at home, where the NBA exists.

  

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30. "Melo's Fault"
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But in all seriousness
I find it hilarious that all these politicians are weighing in on how the NBA should be doing this and that when half of them are in the GOP and don't say shit about the border.

It's insane that it's come to this. I'm not a Morey fan by any stretch, but him, nor the Rockets should be the political voice for what kind of support a country should be giving towards another country's unrest, unless it's blatantly obvious.

That being said, this scene from the Wire perfectly describes how the NBA looks right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psl6E5Shrjw

And I ride for Hong Kong personally

  

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32. "Prolly shoulda let some other GM handle it but fuck it, he's right"
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That the Rockets have a strong connection to China makes it more impactful and will get it more press, so good on him. I can't see them firing him for this, dude is as entrenched as any GM right now. He's got suction, as they said on The Wire.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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34. "any of the people talking about China ask about Kashmir?"
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the NBA just wrapped up a trip to india with no mention of the human rights violations there and nobody's saying shit about it.

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39. "damn, y'all don't give a fuuuuuck about kashmir forreal?"
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35. "Nike and Mark Parker did the same thing to one of their Shoe Designers. "
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One of their shoe designers showed his support for Hong Kong, and Nike immediately pulled his line.

And eagerly stated that China is an imperative part of their business endeavors and look to do business with China for years to come.

Isn't this the same thing that China does to its own people who speak out against the government's political practices? So we are practicing their methods of governing to protect our business interest with them?


https://www.ft.com/content/845d0a8e-990b-11e9-8cfb-30c211dcd229

  

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36. "and then nike went out of business, according to all of your earlier pos..."
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you fucking idiot
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37. "This is a time when NBA stars need to stand up for social justice"
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But note how it's not particularly hip to do it in this instance. It's easier to do it when something has caught flame on a hashtag and gone viral - but it takes guts (and nuanced understanding) to stand up in defense of human rights and call out China over this - instead of just bucking to commercial interests and contracts. It reminds me of Trudeau being called out for Canada's arms trade with Saudi Arabia - and Trudeau being like "we honor our commercial contracts in this country."

Some things supersede contractual obligations - namely human life.

For those who may not know the extent of China's human rights atrocities - I'd urge you to read this:

https://www.ft.com/content/48508182-d426-11e9-8367-807ebd53ab77

There is legitimate ethnic cleansing and concentration camp activity occurring in China right now - paired with a terrifying abuse of AI and freedom of expression/press to standardize humans on some Black Mirror type stuff.
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38. "stand up and do what exactly?"
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with what capital?

suddenly it's the responsibility of players in the NBA to do what no one else in the world will, and what they definitely cannot do.

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41. "Umm...they could like...refuse to play in China."
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They are the capital here

If Morey posted that tweet while in China

He’d be in jail.

I’m sure the LAL and BKN players will be asked about the situation

That would be enough for me to stay home.

Remember that whole LiAngelo situation...?

Trumpster doesn’t get involved, he’s probably assembling iPhones at foxconn for the rest of his life

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you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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42. "Stand up for human rights?"
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NBA players have been far more socially conscious and outspoken in recent years. We've had many situations where NBA players have spoken up to protest police brutality and social inequities - so it's not as if it's breaking the paradigm to stand up and defend Morey's right to express what he expressed.

Nobody's asking for them to change geo-politics - but they have the absolute right to voice their opinion on this - and they should if so compelled.

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50. "k, no plan then"
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56. "lol did they need a "plan" to speak out against police brutality?"
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This ain't hard. Keep it simp, tho.

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67. "yes, actually. they had one. and executed it."
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you wouldn't know about that, because you're not about action. just talk.

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70. "right. the plan was to speak their mind and not normalize brutality"
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cats weren't sitting around in bunkers strategizing on how to do it - they just spoke from their heart.

>you wouldn't know about that, because you're not about
>action. just talk.

lol awwww you ok lil' RJ? What's funny is that "talk" is exactly what the NBA players were doing when they *spoke* out against police brutality. That is an action in itself which helped steer the conversation in a different and much needed direction.

c00l chat tho bro


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40. "."
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43. "so much for all that More Than an Athlete stuff"
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_______________________________________________
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44. "Silver said My Name is Bennett and I aint in it (NBA Statement)"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1181497808563658752

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45. "Good, better late than never."
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46. "RE: Silver said My Name is Bennett and I aint in it (NBA Statement)"
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He had no other choice, especially since the responses from American fans were very strong. As stated, I knew that there was no way Morey was going to be reprimanded or disciplined for his free expression regarding freedom. So I think that public statement reconciles things with american fans, because we usually forget or forgive once things are no longer a huge topic.

However, China, based on their culture, does not forgive or forget, so it'll be real interesting to see if those business ties are reestablished with the NBA.

But you gotta give credit to the NBA and Silver for stating that they stand by the freedom of expression of its athletes, and that they will not inhibit that right.

  

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49. "the only hope the NFL has of existing in 25 years is hiring this guy"
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47. "Maybe this is a blessing in disguise."
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To get totally away from doing business with China.

In response to Silver's support of Morey, Chinese State Broadcaster CCTV stated the following:

"We're strongly dissatisfied and oppose Adam Silver's claim to support Morey's right to freedom of expression," the statement read. "We believe that any remarks that challenge national sovereignty and social stability are not within the scope of freedom of speech."

CCTV has pulled all upcoming NBA games to be televised. And a lot of Chinese companies have completely severed ties.

That is just horrid on all levels, and who would want to have business ties with a Country that inhibits its own people from freedom of expression?

Billions would be lost, but the NBA will still exist like it did before, and can really establish its brand in places like Australia, South America, etc

It's insane how American Businesses who do business in China or with China have to remove their liberties and inhibit their expressions in order to maintain relations. However, Chinese companies can do business in america, buy up land and territory( especially in Cali), and have all the liberties and freedoms that americans have.

  

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48. "I need to know what good Twitter ever did for anyone"
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what substantial positive outcome has ever come from a tweet?

all it does is get people in trouble and force apologies

Serves no good purpose at all

  

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51. "you can't be tweeting about shit you don't know about"
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that's where people get fucked up

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52. "I was thinking about this on the way in to work"
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There's literally nothing good about Twitter. The world would be markedly better without it.

Instantly knowing what's happening in the world. No need.
Hearing directly from celebrities. Cancerous.
Multiple echo chambers for niche interest groups. Poisonous.

  

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54. "don't tell people what you think about"
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53. "An extremely important thing to remember about Twitter"
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is that 80% of its content is produced by only 2.2% of the US adult population.

That is a lot of attention we choose to give to an extremely small percentage of US adults.

  

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55. "Exactly. It's an echo chamber of echo chambers "
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And the tiny group of people invested in it treat it like it's some valuable bellwether of society as a whole. It's a pack of celebrities, journalists, and bots all screaming at each other.

  

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68. "imagine being this dumb of a motherfucker"
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57. "Lakers/Nets have to move to a different building, dicey situation"
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Looks like the Shanghai games might even be cancelled altogether.

Imagine being so fragile as a government that you freak out this much over a tweet.

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58. "China is it's own worst enemy"
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It wants to play with the West but cries like a baby whenever it gets hurt.

  

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64. "RE: China is it's own worst enemy"
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Messi: I think Neymar regrets leaving Barca.

Messi: I miss Ronaldo and the Clasico battles.


Translation: Barca and I have played like S h i t since they left, and I can't do it by myself.


Meanwhile: Neymar is scoring winning goals for PSG and Ronaldo is simply being Ronaldo by excelling any and everywhere!



HAHA.

  

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73. "RE: China is it's own worst enemy"
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this was meant to go in the soccer thread.

  

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76. "RE: China is it's own worst enemy"
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They are moving more and more toward playing diplomacy and part of it is because of America’s weakened state. We’re going to look back at this time period as when China made its move to be our global overlords and its gonna fuckin suck.

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59. "shoutout to these 6ers fans"
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https://6abc.com/sports/sixers-fan-supporting-hong-kong-ejected-from-preseason-game/5604293/

Really think the NBA should pull out of China all together

somebody's gonna say the wrong thing while they're in China



FTR, this game was played in Philadelphia

Pennsylvania

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WTF!!!

Profits >>> People = the american way.

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60. "Do you know how many of the NBA's star have huge business in China?"
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A lot. That's how many.

Will Leitch the God tackled this this morning: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/the-nba-is-still-reeling-from-daryl-moreys-tweet.html

Terrific and brutal last paragraph: "But don’t expect James to speak up on this one. It is one thing to speak out on injustice in our country; you can actually sell more Nike shoes that way. But going after China is just bad business. What NBA players have done by speaking out on social issues in the United States has made an important difference, and it will inspire future generations of players to do the same. But the bottom line is going to come first when it comes to China. Adam Silver has found another issue in which his interests and the interests of his players absolutely align. It won’t do the people of Hong Kong any good. It might make him, and his players, look bad in the eyes of Beto O’Rourke and Ted Cruz, but they don’t buy, or make, enough shoes to matter."

The stars absolutely will not, under any circumstances, go against China. Because there's waaaay too much money to be made.

So the NBA can't go against China, because they can't go against their stars. Money talks. Unless America as a whole stops going to games/buying merch/watching games/etc over this, nothing will change. And there's a zero percent chance that happens.

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61. "It's quickly moving past that IMO"
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So you're okay with US citizens being censored...in the US?

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62. "lmao, absolutely not. How did you think I thought this?"
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>So you're okay with US citizens being censored...in the US?

I think they absolutely SHOULD speak up. Of course they should.

But they won't. Because that's corporate life. And all of the biggest names in the NBA would lose SHIT TONS of money cutting ties with China. Not just through the NBA, through their own personal endorsement deals. So they're not going to do it. Unless American consumers have as big an effect on their pocketbooks as losing Chinese support would. And that seems... really unlikely.

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63. "If Lebron loses Chinese money his great grandkids are still set for life..."
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I feel like most of the big stars that are making significant money over there still have a bunch of other revenue streams and are not going broke any time soon.

We'll see if they take a stand and literally put their money where their mouth is. Its easy to wear a hoodie or bash 45, most of the people on the far right are not big NBA fans anyway.

  

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75. "but when you're mega-rich, you don't really care about that. "
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>I feel like most of the big stars that are making significant
>money over there still have a bunch of other revenue streams
>and are not going broke any time soon.

It's not "I want to get rich and now I'm good." It's "I want to get rich, and then I want to get richer, and I want to have more money than generations of my family could ever spend."

That's just the way it tends to work. They won't stand against something that would hurt a major revenue stream.

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79. "being around billionaires is wild"
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they don't have to do anything

so they can use all of their time to do the one thing they're interested in: figure out ways to get more money.

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71. "You seem to be normalizing this though."
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Taking the position that "players are too invested in China to speak out" and basically excusing that position because well, that's just the way it is -- is not exactly an acceptable reaction to this, is it?

Also - I don't necessarily buy that LeBron and other stars aren't speaking out against China solely off commercial interests -- LeBron speaking out against police brutality did have the potential to alienate millions of customers who would otherwise buy jerseys/shoes/tickets and thus impact profitability. I don't think most Americans really understand what's actually happening in China: ethnic cleansing; concentration camps; A.I./tech abuse and mass censorship, surveillance/control of its citizenry. Naturally, it's more difficult to get a grasp on what's happening on the ground somewhere halfway across the globe.

Further, the NBA and its stars are enjoying more affluence and top-end wealth than ever. It's an opulent league and most at the top of it aren't exactly making lifestyle decisions based on frugality - so they are very much in a position to do what comes along with great wealth: whatever TF they want at any given time.

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74. "once again, I'm *not excusing this whatsoever.* "
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>Taking the position that "players are too invested in China
>to speak out" and basically excusing that position because
>well, that's just the way it is -- is not exactly an
>acceptable reaction to this, is it?

I just reeeeeeeeeeally don't think they'll speak out against China. This is me talking from a point of pessimism, not from a point of thinking they're doing the right thing.

It's just much, much easier for them to speak out about social issues that don't really hurt their pocketbooks. At the end of the day, rich people are going to rich people. I just don't think any of these mega-rich people will do the right thing until doing the wrong thing hurts their pocketbooks-- and I don't think enough Americans care about China to hurt their pocketbooks.

I think they should absolutely cut ties with China. I just feel very confident they won't, that we'll see media censorship in America about criticism of China first. Which we're already seeing. It's fucked up, and it's our reality. We should try to fight it, but I'm insanely skeptical that enough viewers give a shit.

They'd rather have the new pair of Brons. They'd rather use their phone made by a corporation friendly with China. They'd rather drive a car made by a corporation friendly with China. So much of what people use and consume come from giant businesses that love China. I struggle to find a way in which basketball lovers will go down that rabbit hole.

As I said above, it's a shitty shitty situation that I don't think there's much America can or will do about the China problem.

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77. "Understood - and I completely get what you're saying."
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Some may call it cynical - but too often it's just been reality. Still, I think that NBA players have put their principles before pocket-books in certain situations - but this is a macro scale of that should business with China be alienated.

But as stated, the NBA is in a super privileged position because of its soaring success. There are other markets to engage with while still being absurdly profitable. At some point you have to ask yourself if it's worth the disposable profitability (that you likely won't even know is missing) to bend to a regime like China.

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78. "I hope you're right, I really do. "
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>At some
>point you have to ask yourself if it's worth the disposable
>profitability (that you likely won't even know is missing) to
>bend to a regime like China.

But since I just watched a preseason game in China and a reporter getting booted from a press conference for asking a question that could be critical of China, I am... not optimistic it changes soon, unless something wild happens.

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81. "It’s not disposable income that they won’t miss "
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from what I’ve been reading on twitter from NBA writers though.

The business in China affects the salary cap.
Maybe not Lebron, AD this summer or Giannis the next
but it affects any player on day 2 or 3 of free agency.
Sure they still making millions more than any of us
but these new short term contracts guys are taking
may be a few million less per year if the salary cap
goes down 10-15% because of less business there.

That’s nothing to sneeze at when it comes to money.
Guys in the NBA would def notice that pay cut.

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83. "RE: It’s not disposable income that they won’t miss "
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However, what a lot people don’t realize is that this issue has always
been something that the league thought and worried about going back to David Stern.

When stern presented Michael Jordan and the NBA to China, around the time the Dream Team was taking the world By storm, it was a new world for both sides. Young Chinese people got to see a sport that was very liberating and entertaining, something that had never been seen before, and the NBA got exposure to a population that was bigger than the US. As the relationship grew, Chinese players started to come into the Nba, and Yao Ming’s inclusion took the relationship and business to great heights.

However, Stern stated that China’s communistic ways and human right issues would be something that NBA would have to face at one point. The Morey tweet just sped it up. It was bound to happen.

Now the NBA can focus on other strong markets that are more in line with democracy or human rights, like Australia, New Zealand , countries in South America. I really think Australia and New Zealand are going to be the next big thing for the NBA with what the Ball boy is doing down there, and other high schoolers who don’t want to go to college going down there, as well as emerging stars like Steve Adams.

It will have a negative effect in the beginning, as monetary adjustments will have to be made, but in the end it will bring the league and players a peace of mind while still being able to make billions and growi the game.


  

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65. "45 taking shots..."
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Donald Trump chastises 'little boy' Steve Kerr, Gregg Popovich over NBA's china flap https://sports.yahoo.com/donald-trump-chastises-little-boy-steve-kerr-gregg-popovich-over-nb-as-china-flap-214434724.html

  

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66. "RE: 45 taking shots..."
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He has a point. It’s a bad hypocritical look on them.
You speak about the Dictator actions of Trump, and how
he is inhumane and goes against the practices of equality,
and possible actions of treason, but you’re silent against a
foreign government who does not care about its people,
and have killed, beaten and jailed people for speaking out
against the government.


Both of them look shook as hell.

  

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69. "you'd be so much of a better person if you didn't ever say anything at a..."
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72. "."
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82. "Phase 1 trade deal agreed upon"
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- China will buy 40 billion dollars of america’s agriculture products (soybean,etc)
- America will not increase the amount or expand tariffs
- However, current tariffs remain intact.

New tariffs were set to be implemented next week, which China could not afford. Their economy is heavily dependent on export, and with American companies pulling back on importing their products due to tariffs were killing them. They had to get a deal done ASAP.

Now will they agree to phase 2 and phase 3 ? And will china reestablish business with the NBA? October and November are going to be some very crucial months for Trump, China and the NBA.

Also it was reported that Wall Street Democrats stated that they would vote for Trump if Warren or Sanders win the democratic nomination ( both want extreme regulations against brokerage firms as well as a wealth tax). So I think China’s plan to play the waiting game for a new president went out the window with that.

  

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92. "..."
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you really don't understand the trade deal or what that is.

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84. "Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league..."
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how is he still employed?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/report-nba-salary-cap-luxury-tax-expected-to-drop-in-20202021-due-to-lower-revenue-154200141.html

  

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85. "because it wouldve been a bad for the league's image to fire him"
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over money. although he certainly should be.

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86. "Technically the league couldn’t fire him but Silver could’ve..."
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could’ve strongly suggested to the Rockets owner

  

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90. "Per woj, i think he’ll survive that:"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1222991117869887490?s=21

Now in terms of how rockets are playing this yr...different story. He’s def on the hot seat for that.

  

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87. "RE: Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league..."
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Not really. They expected a 15 percent loss ( down to 99 million)!and it only dropped from 116 mil to 113 ml. So teams were already prepared for it, and it was way less than what was expected.

Plus with Giannis and Luka being the Face of the nba like lebron, Jordan etc...they are going to make up that money in other countries.

The game in France was huge , and sooner or later a euro team will be added to the league, and an international league competition will be add to the season.

They are preparing for life without China and doing a great job at it.

  

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88. "RE: Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league..."
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>
>They are preparing for life without China and doing a great
>job at it.
>
Don't think so. All of this will be forgotten as time goes by and China as a market will not go away.
They been playing games in Europe since the 80s.

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89. "RE: Dude fucked up the salary cap for the entire league..."
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Yeah they have been playing games in Europe since the 80s...but they didn’t have big nba superstar euro players back then either. They have that now, so just like they used Yao Ming to grow the game in China. They will use players like Giannis, Luka, Sabonis to grow the game even greater.

China will not go away of course, but this situation now has the nba building to not depend on china. It’s kind of similar to Americans companies now sending their manufacturing to other countries besides China.

This disruption was a blessing in disguise, because they were going to have to face the human rights situation sooner or later. Can’t do business with a country that violates the human rights of people and not expect issues to come about. The nba kicked the can for a long time.

The nba is using the soccer model to grow the game, and they are headed in the right direction. It’s the second most global game in the world behind soccer. Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East, Australia/ New Zealand/ Latin America and the islands.

Nba will stay healthy with or without China.

  

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91. "Lol@ he fucked it up"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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93. "Lol@ he fucked it up"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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94. "he gone."
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30120824/daryl-morey-stepping-houston-rockets-gm-sources-say

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95. "he'd probably be out if that never happened"
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but he was FOR SURE fired after it did

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96. "The in-season trades to me showed that the writing was on the wall"
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It would have been an amazing bet if the Rockets had at least advanced to the WCF. But trading your third-best player when you're a five seed and have a lame-duck coach is desperate.

That he wants to 'explore his options' makes me think there may be some wink-nod agreement that he step away from the NBA for a time or that he senses his statement on Hong Kong and the fallout from that is disincentivizing teams from bringing him on. And I can't blame them. He cost the league of money and caused players and administration a lot of grief.

But his track record shows he's worthy of another job. For Houston to have the second-best record over that 13-year period, without bottoming out, is a real accomplishment.

Maybe the basketball gods were speaking by the team's relative lack of success but Morey was so fixated on the mechanics of basketball that he forgot about putting a balanced team out on the floor. He missed the spirit of the game.

He may reconsider his approach with his next job.

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97. "China: you want that billion dollar contract back?"
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That’s a Morey!

But yeah the NBA is a great platform that is dealing with social issues in the community!

  

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98. "you can both be the best league on social issues and be tone deaf on Chi..."
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of course athletes can't be on top of all the shit that's going on in the world and we shouldn't expect Kyrie or whoever to post nuanced takes on the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, but cmon China fucking sucks and we're gonna see a lot more of them imposing their way of using multi-lateralism to promote their ideology, this was just a small skirmish in the global cultural wars

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99. "RE: you can both be the best league on social issues and be tone deaf on..."
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https://youtu.be/-0UPhZk7mG0

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102. "All I want to know is why Lebron lie after Morey put"
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out that tweet. He said he didn’t know enough about China to speak on it, or address the issue. That it was foreign to him.

That was a damn lie because he said this in 2008 right before the Olympics :


“James told us he spent time over the previous year educating himself about China. He realizes that his voice is powerful and he will be heard. He has yet to sign the letter but said he will continue to speak about the conflict as the Olympics draw closer. He said he hopes the NBA Olympians will band together with a plan on how to address the situation. He spoke eloquently for 15 minutes, and insisted he didn't care about endorsements or contracts or anything but doing what he felt was right.

"At the end of the day we're talking about human rights," he said. "And people should understand that human rights and people's lives are in jeopardy. We're not talking about contracts here. We're not talking about money. We're talking about people's lives being lost and that means a lot more to me than some money or a contract."

James basically refuted what everybody had written and said about him a year ago. Maybe it's because he was criticized, maybe not. Maybe he would have come to these conclusions without Newble's letter.

But maybe Newble accomplished, finally, what he had set out to do. He got LeBron's attention and his support, if not his signature. And in a few months, James will be playing on the world's biggest court in front of the world's biggest audience. It remains to be seen what, or if, James will say then, but the stage has been set.

  

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100. "Cut the crap."
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The NBA is more than just tone deaf. The NBA had a facility in an area where the Chinese Government are holding immigrants in concentration camps, and the government is also murdering immigrants in those concentration camps.

They have since closed the facility because a US Senator put pressure on them to do so.

However, they still have facilities in China, were players have reported physical and verbal abuse by the Chinese coaches and officials that work at the facilities.

And then there is the situation with Hong Kong.

Lebron is aware of this. He was going to protest against the Chinese Government around the time the US Men’s Basketball team was competing for a gold medal in 2008 in Bejing.

He has since changed his approach, pretending he doesn’t know anything about the matter

  

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101. "why would you write a reply to this dude?"
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like, what were you hoping would happen?

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103. "He basically out-Hollinger’d Hollinger"
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104. "he about to take control of the Process...."
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105. "lol"
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106. "Simmons is about to get traded, right?"
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107. "This would be terrific for both parties."
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The Sixers have really struggled to put together a team that can shoot the ball well at a high volume-- they've done okay in terms of picking their spots the last couple of years, but not nearly at the volume necessary to de-clog the paint for Embiid and Simmons. And building a team around shooting shooting 3s has been Morey's specialty. They need guard/wing players desperately, and Morey should definitely be able to build that in short order.

And for Morey, it gets him away from the West, where the GSW dynasty stopped him from making the Finals and the LAL new dynasty would certainly seem poised to stop most teams going forward for the next couple of years, at least. The East gives him a good chance to get that "no Finals appearances" chip off his shoulder-- or, at least, a way better chance than the West.

And he'd have a roster with a couple of prime assets in Simmons and Embiid to build around. If you can get actual shooters on the floor around those two, you'd be in really good shape imo. They just haven't been able to do that yet.

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108. "poor Doc"
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109. "Cloaked"
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110. "so do they trade Embiid or Simmons for Harden?"
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112. "In what, "Close But No" Cigars? "
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built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are."

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111. "and what does this mean for Elton Brand?"
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