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BrooklynWHAT
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"Roc Nation to lead NFL entertainment endeavors (Swipe)"


  

          

aka Hov is gonna do the super bowl.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27380099/roc-nation-lead-nfl-entertainment-endeavors

NEW YORK -- In a boost to the NFL's efforts around social justice, Roc Nation, the entertainment company founded by iconic rapper, businessman and activist Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter, has agreed to lead the league's endeavors in music and entertainment.

As part of the long-term partnership, Roc Nation will advise on the selection of artists for NFL tentpole events, including the Super Bowl, as well as play a key role in the production and promotion of new music. The NFL's union with Roc Nation kicks off as the league celebrates its 100th season and serves as a commitment from both parties to amplify the league's Inspire Change initiative.

Among the most important benefits to the NFL is that Roc Nation, through its position as a global entertainment leader, could enhance the Inspire Change platform in ways that the league likely would not be able to on its own. The program, which is run by the league and its players, focuses on education and economic advancement, improving police-community relations and criminal justice reform.

Carter believes Roc Nation and the NFL will accomplish big things together.

"With its global reach, the National Football League has the platform and opportunity to inspire change across the country," he said. "Roc Nation has shown that entertainment and enacting change are not mutually exclusive ideas -- instead, we unify them. This partnership is an opportunity to strengthen the fabric of communities across America."

Likewise, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is excited about the possibilities.

"Roc Nation is one of the most globally influential and impactful organizations in entertainment," Goodell said. "The NFL and Roc Nation share a vision of inspiring meaningful social change across our country. We are thrilled to partner with Roc Nation and look forward to making a difference in our communities together."

The deal calls for Roc Nation, which will also reach out to artists who are not attached to the company, to quarterback the creation and distribution of music content across multiple music and streaming services, as well as consult and collaborate on the production, promotion and marketing of live music events. A Pro Bowl community concert, original music, artists podcasts and a live visual album may be produced under the new banner. The agreement does not call for Carter to perform at the Super Bowl.

For the NFL, the potentially positive impact of Carter being willing to join forces with the league -- especially at this time -- cannot be overstated.

Despite its significant recent efforts to back players in championing social justice, the NFL still lacks credibility with many African Americans, even some who identify as being among the league's fans, because of the Colin Kaepernick situation.

During the 2016 season, the then-San Francisco 49ers quarterback knelt during the national anthem to draw attention to police brutality and systemic oppression. Since the end of that season, Kaepernick has gone unsigned. In February, Kaepernick settled a collusion grievance against the league for an undisclosed financial settlement.

Carter, who has been public in his support for Kaepernick, is among the most revered figures in the black community. Carter is also a vocal activist.

Through REFORM Alliance, a nonprofit advocacy group he founded with acclaimed hip-hop artist Meek Mill, Carter aspires to overhaul the criminal justice system by "changing the laws, policies and practices that perpetuate injustice," according to the organization's website. In a league in which the on-field workforce is almost 70% black, having Carter involved at a high level could please many players.

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so does this mean the "boycott" is over?
Aug 13th 2019
1
League still trash
Aug 14th 2019
9
one of these things are not the same © Sesame Street...
Aug 13th 2019
2
its inevitable
Aug 13th 2019
3
      k.
Aug 13th 2019
5
Between Roc Nation and Klutch, shit is happenin...
Aug 13th 2019
4
I don't even fuck with Jay like that for real...
Aug 13th 2019
6
the riskiest thing for Kap to do at this point is to play
Aug 14th 2019
8
      RE: the riskiest thing for Kap to do at this point is to play
Aug 15th 2019
32
On an entertainment level, this is cool...
Aug 14th 2019
7
Does it bother anyone that Jay and Kap didn't talk?
Aug 14th 2019
10
^^^ Yep.
Aug 14th 2019
11
do we know that they didn't?
Aug 14th 2019
12
^^^
Aug 14th 2019
14
Kap's attorney said they didn't.
Aug 14th 2019
15
Eh...I kinda feel like he needed to secure their agreement first
Aug 14th 2019
13
I get that.
Aug 14th 2019
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      RE: I get that.
Aug 15th 2019
22
did kap call jay z when he took that nfl settlement money?
Aug 14th 2019
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Did Kap sing Jay Z lyrics while protesting?
Aug 15th 2019
28
nah. Only that he’s apparently lying about it
Aug 15th 2019
19
      yup, Jay worships only one God
Aug 15th 2019
27
Interesting that on this board we’re seeing it as a net positive
Aug 15th 2019
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This is the bottom line...
Aug 15th 2019
20
Jesus. Black people have such low self esteem : - (
Aug 15th 2019
21
Bout goddamn time someone said it
Aug 15th 2019
23
discounting your subject line, im pretty much on your side of the fence
Aug 15th 2019
25
They love Jay and Bey
Aug 15th 2019
29
NFL now has their black friend
Aug 16th 2019
33
^^^^
Aug 16th 2019
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yep.
Aug 16th 2019
36
THANK YOU. Jay's greedy dumbass is being used.
Aug 16th 2019
37
I'm not Black, I'm Jay-Z....
Aug 15th 2019
24
Hov better apologize to Travis Scott
Aug 15th 2019
26
He said travis shouldnt have done it bc he wasnt the headline
Aug 15th 2019
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      Imagine believing this
Aug 15th 2019
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I said no to the Superbowl, you need me, I don't need you
Aug 16th 2019
34
Latest Reports say Jay is about to get in on ownership
Aug 16th 2019
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Smh, did Jay really say “we’re passed kneeling”?
Aug 17th 2019
39
sure did. dude turned into a basic rich American.
Aug 17th 2019
40
he tried to clean it up in that tmz clip. but yeah. he said that.
Aug 17th 2019
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ThaTruth
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1. "so does this mean the "boycott" is over?"
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9. "League still trash"
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To me, the Kapernick situation was just the cherry on top of the trash heap of NFL actions that made me realize I didn't want to support it as a consumer anymore.

Roc Nation becoming involved with regards to music and culture won't address the underlying issues related to how the ownership relates to the people that perform and all of the people that pay to see the performances.

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2. "one of these things are not the same © Sesame Street..."
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>aka Hov is gonna do the super bowl. © you

or

>The agreement does not call for Carter to
>perform at the Super Bowl. © The article you just swiped.







*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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3. "its inevitable"
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if not this year then in the next 3.

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5. "k."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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4. "Between Roc Nation and Klutch, shit is happenin..."
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Karen Civil doing her thing too...

The revolution is being televised!


"..., it's a slow process
And I ain't got nothin' but time"

And then...


Geyeah, know what?
I'll make, you and your wack mans fold like bad hands
Roll like Monopoly, advance
You're coppin' me like white crystal
I gross the most at the end of the fiscal year than these niggas can wish to
The dead presidential candidate
With the sprinkles and the Presidential, ice that'll offend you
In due time when crime flees my mind
All sneak thieves and player haters can shine
But until then, I keep the trilliant cut diamonds shinin' brilliant
I'll tell you half the story; the rest, you fill it in
Long as the villain win
I spend Japan yen, attend major events
Catch me in the joints, convinced my iguanas is bitin'
J-A-Y hyphen, controllin', manipulatin'
I got a good life, man, pounds and pence
'Nough dollars make sense, while you ride the bench
Catch me swingin' for the fence
Dead presidents, ya know? Uh-huh

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6. "I don't even fuck with Jay like that for real..."
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but this is some dope shit, for them to come to him with some shit like this after he basically dissed the NFL on Apeshit:

"I said no to the Super Bowl, you need me, I don't need you
Every night we in the end zone, tell the NFL we in stadiums too"

damn, it will be interesting to see if Kap is somehow involved. I think the ship has almost sailed as far as seeing him on the field again. I feel like if we don't see him on the field this year we never will. Vick missed 2 full seasons and came back and still played at a high level, he was a few years younger.

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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8. "the riskiest thing for Kap to do at this point is to play"
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32. "RE: the riskiest thing for Kap to do at this point is to play"
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And he knows it. It won't stop the 'still not getting my chance' storyline, but dude knows he doesn't want to be out there getting hit again. And besides, I couldn't imagine the league would do much to protect him from ridiculous cheap shots from the magas / otherwise hardcore 'murikkkans in the league.

Sad thing is...it is super easy to rewrite history and leave out the part where Kaep was hurting and falling off to the point where he was barely in the league. He was backing up Blaine Gabbert on a bad Niners team.

Blaine Gabbert.

Side: They have Gabbert backing up Crab Legs right now. It's like Blaine is Sandman for black QBs or something.

  

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7. "On an entertainment level, this is cool..."
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That's dope that Jay is gonna have some influence on the NFL on that level.

But as far as his influence on community relations, education, reforms, etc. within the NFL, I'm not holding my breath.

  

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10. "Does it bother anyone that Jay and Kap didn't talk?"
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How do you walk in the door talking about bringing "social justice" to the NFL without talking to the player who has been fighting that war for the last two years?
How much is it worth to deliver a positive PR story for a league that is in desperate need of it? I'm very skeptical about the type of change Jay/Roc Nation are really going to be able to bring to a league of owners who just want to return to the status quo.

But hey, get that money.

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11. "^^^ Yep."
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12. "do we know that they didn't?"
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14. "^^^"
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15. "Kap's attorney said they didn't."
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"Colin Kaepernick's attorney, Mark Geragos, says despite what Jay claimed in the meeting, Kap did NOT talk to Jay-Z prior to partnering with the NFL."

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13. "Eh...I kinda feel like he needed to secure their agreement first"
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There's some residual negativity around Kaep still and bringing him to the table would just be a PR mess for the NFL at this point. Hell, Tomi Lauren is already going in on Jay because of his background, having Kaep on board before the ink dried would have just added fuel to the fire.

I like that the deal was done first. NFL's locked in, now Roc Nation can bring in anyone they want to be the influencers. They can do it with notoriety (loud) or they can do it behind the scenes. The changes have to be made, the suggestions can come from Kaep and in the end can be announced without anyone having to make a fuss about him being involved. Or, they can be made with Kaep as the front man, leading the way and pissing off all the bigots with their undies in a bunch. Though, I'm sure the NFL prefers the former.

I'm with everyone though, not sure what the NFL would be willing to do or what that would look like. Community outreach? Awareness campaigns? Legal funds for victims? Charitable donations to social justice platforms/programs?

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16. "I get that."
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To me the NFL, and the owners to a large degree, have already showed us who they are, who they support, etc. So I'm inclined to believe at this point this signing is about keeping things quiet. Or worse, something they can use to point to to save face: "Well Roc Nation is involved."

Or, they can
>be made with Kaep as the front man, leading the way and
>pissing off all the bigots with their undies in a bunch.
>Though, I'm sure the NFL prefers the former.

No way Kap is made the frontman AFTER the deal is done.
He would have been at the press conference if that was the case.
But you bring up a good point. Getting the NFL on board first was key.
While I don't have an interest in the NFL, I will be watching to see
this "social justice" in action.

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22. "RE: I get that."
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>To me the NFL, and the owners to a large degree, have already
>showed us who they are, who they support, etc. So I'm
>inclined to believe at this point this signing is about
>keeping things quiet. Or worse, something they can use to
>point to to save face: "Well Roc Nation is involved."

Anything old rich white men do to appease their mostly minority workforce is done to keep things quiet and point to it to save face. No surprises there. This deal with Roc Nation isn't like them endorsing BLM or giving the NAACP a platform. It's a 'safe' step revolved around entertainment and an established urban brand (which also happens to included an agency that represents athletes and provides branding opps).

In the end, we know why the owners/league agreed to it. That's pretty clear.

>No way Kap is made the frontman AFTER the deal is done.
>He would have been at the press conference if that was the
>case.
>But you bring up a good point. Getting the NFL on board first
>was key.
>While I don't have an interest in the NFL, I will be watching
>to see
>this "social justice" in action.

I disagree. I think he can be made the front man at any point now. And I think it places the NFL at a distinct disadvantage. Now Roc Nation can submit promos with Kaep (who might never play another NFL game again) speaking about police brutality and inequality in America. All done on behalf of the NFL. Now while I don't think that'll be the case, I wouldn't be surprised if Roc Nation doesn't involve Kaep in something at some point.

Jay's been on a different slant in the most recent yrs. 444, The Zimmerman Doc, the Kalief Browder doc, the New Meek Mil doc and some advocacy for criminal justice reform are indicators to me. I don't get the narrative that 'Jay's a capitalist above all' in today's climate. Yeah, maybe 10+ yrs ago. Man's worth a billion; I think for Jay, it's more about impact and power now.

My reservation is what the NFL would agree to. The announcement doesn't give much clarity into the 'what' of the partnership.

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17. "did kap call jay z when he took that nfl settlement money?"
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28. "Did Kap sing Jay Z lyrics while protesting?"
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Jay has on Kaps jersey and aligned himself with Kaps movement.

shut up already, damn

  

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19. "nah. Only that he’s apparently lying about it"
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We been known hov is a capitalist above all and will sell out for a buck

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27. "yup, Jay worships only one God"
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18. "Interesting that on this board we’re seeing it as a net positive"
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For Jay and the black community.

On some of the other groups I’m a part of the view is flipped and folks are seeing it more as a jay selling out the community.

There’s no way to really argue one way or the other til things start to happen, but the potential for it yo ho either way is pretty big.

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20. "This is the bottom line..."
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>There’s no way to really argue one way or the other til
>things start to happen, but the potential for it yo ho either
>way is pretty big.

We don't know at this point how it's going to play out - whether Jay will use his influence for something positive or if it's just about him using the community and this situation to get paid.

  

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21. "Jesus. Black people have such low self esteem : - ( "
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This is so silly & trite, so obviously a ploy to for
the NFL to not have to deal with the Kaep problem

And y'all praising this?

Y'all have really, really, really low self esteem




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23. "Bout goddamn time someone said it"
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>
>This is so silly & trite, so obviously a ploy to for
>the NFL to not have to deal with the Kaep problem
>
>And y'all praising this?
>
>Y'all have really, really, really low self esteem

"In a boost to the NFL's efforts around social justice, Roc Nation, the entertainment company founded by iconic rapper, businessman and activist Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter, has agreed to lead the league's endeavors in music and entertainment."

- I need to know how this "boosts" efforts around social justice? By singing and dancing and rapping? Niggas have always been entertaining.



"As part of the long-term partnership, Roc Nation will advise on the selection of artists for NFL tentpole events, including the Super Bowl, as well as play a key role in the production and promotion of new music. The NFL's union with Roc Nation kicks off as the league celebrates its 100th season and serves as a commitment from both parties to amplify the league's Inspire Change initiative."
- Artists and music...social justice where???


"With its global reach, the National Football League has the platform and opportunity to inspire change across the country," he said. "Roc Nation has shown that entertainment and enacting change are not mutually exclusive ideas -- instead, we unify them. This partnership is an opportunity to strengthen the fabric of communities across America."

"Roc Nation is one of the most globally influential and impactful organizations in entertainment," Goodell said. "The NFL and Roc Nation share a vision of inspiring meaningful social change across our country. We are thrilled to partner with Roc Nation and look forward to making a difference in our communities together."

- Why so amorphous and vague about anything other than music and entertainment? What's the intent here? To make the NFL appealing to a community which is 70% of the league's players? To make white people like black music??

I'm always willing to be proven wrong, but I call bullshit right now.

  

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25. "discounting your subject line, im pretty much on your side of the fence"
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29. "They love Jay and Bey"
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This is exactly why the NFL did this.

shut up already, damn

  

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33. "NFL now has their black friend"
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35. "^^^^"
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36. "yep."
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37. "THANK YOU. Jay's greedy dumbass is being used."
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24. "I'm not Black, I'm Jay-Z...."
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This whole exchange has me thinking of a gang o Malcolm quotes. With slimy ass Goodell in the background:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/15/jay-z-roger-goodell-audio-meeting-colin-kaepernick/



>aka Hov is gonna do the super bowl.
>
>https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27380099/roc-nation-lead-nfl-entertainment-endeavors
>
>NEW YORK -- In a boost to the NFL's efforts around social
>justice, Roc Nation, the entertainment company founded by
>iconic rapper, businessman and activist Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter,
>has agreed to lead the league's endeavors in music and
>entertainment.
>
>As part of the long-term partnership, Roc Nation will advise
>on the selection of artists for NFL tentpole events, including
>the Super Bowl, as well as play a key role in the production
>and promotion of new music. The NFL's union with Roc Nation
>kicks off as the league celebrates its 100th season and serves
>as a commitment from both parties to amplify the league's
>Inspire Change initiative.
>
>Among the most important benefits to the NFL is that Roc
>Nation, through its position as a global entertainment leader,
>could enhance the Inspire Change platform in ways that the
>league likely would not be able to on its own. The program,
>which is run by the league and its players, focuses on
>education and economic advancement, improving police-community
>relations and criminal justice reform.
>
>Carter believes Roc Nation and the NFL will accomplish big
>things together.
>
>"With its global reach, the National Football League has the
>platform and opportunity to inspire change across the
>country," he said. "Roc Nation has shown that entertainment
>and enacting change are not mutually exclusive ideas --
>instead, we unify them. This partnership is an opportunity to
>strengthen the fabric of communities across America."
>
>Likewise, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is excited about the
>possibilities.
>
>"Roc Nation is one of the most globally influential and
>impactful organizations in entertainment," Goodell said. "The
>NFL and Roc Nation share a vision of inspiring meaningful
>social change across our country. We are thrilled to partner
>with Roc Nation and look forward to making a difference in our
>communities together."
>
>The deal calls for Roc Nation, which will also reach out to
>artists who are not attached to the company, to quarterback
>the creation and distribution of music content across multiple
>music and streaming services, as well as consult and
>collaborate on the production, promotion and marketing of live
>music events. A Pro Bowl community concert, original music,
>artists podcasts and a live visual album may be produced under
>the new banner. The agreement does not call for Carter to
>perform at the Super Bowl.
>
>For the NFL, the potentially positive impact of Carter being
>willing to join forces with the league -- especially at this
>time -- cannot be overstated.
>
>Despite its significant recent efforts to back players in
>championing social justice, the NFL still lacks credibility
>with many African Americans, even some who identify as being
>among the league's fans, because of the Colin Kaepernick
>situation.
>
>During the 2016 season, the then-San Francisco 49ers
>quarterback knelt during the national anthem to draw attention
>to police brutality and systemic oppression. Since the end of
>that season, Kaepernick has gone unsigned. In February,
>Kaepernick settled a collusion grievance against the league
>for an undisclosed financial settlement.
>
>Carter, who has been public in his support for Kaepernick, is
>among the most revered figures in the black community. Carter
>is also a vocal activist.
>
>Through REFORM Alliance, a nonprofit advocacy group he founded
>with acclaimed hip-hop artist Meek Mill, Carter aspires to
>overhaul the criminal justice system by "changing the laws,
>policies and practices that perpetuate injustice," according
>to the organization's website. In a league in which the
>on-field workforce is almost 70% black, having Carter involved
>at a high level could please many players.

  

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26. "Hov better apologize to Travis Scott"
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30. "He said travis shouldnt have done it bc he wasnt the headline"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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31. "Imagine believing this"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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34. "I said no to the Superbowl, you need me, I don't need you"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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38. "Latest Reports say Jay is about to get in on ownership"
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849943-tmz-jay-z-to-purchase-significant-ownership-interest-in-undisclosed-nfl-team


the plot thickens....

  

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39. "Smh, did Jay really say “we’re passed kneeling”?"
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40. "sure did. dude turned into a basic rich American."
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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41. "he tried to clean it up in that tmz clip. but yeah. he said that. "
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(he addressed it as a means to an end the 'end' being awareness of the problem, and his intents via this deal to turn the awareness into 'actionable items')

i'll give him the benefit of the reasonable doubt and posit that he sees this as a chess not checkers move. obviously he sees it as a come up for his brand and from his previous moves, it is also something that helps solidify him as a general power broker and a change agent.

i think there are two lenses through which to look at this.

what is the weighting on brand / power / justice in jay's eyes as he made this calculation. does he view all of it as 33/33/33 or 80/10/10? 20/40/40?

the second lens through which to view it is the actual results, which require time. in 1 yr, 2 yrs, 3 yrs, 5 yrs, what actually gets done?


1 yr is prolly too short of a horizon unless this shit crashes and burns.

is he getting to spend NFLs money to do real shit that is beneficial, as opposed to photo ops and feel good local stories? (the hired out, skilled slave who saves up enough money to buy his own and his family's freedom?)

or is he just getting a cut on some shit that's already going to happen.

jury's out on all that.



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