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"I'm renouncing all rights, title and benefits as a Melo Hater. "


  

          


he just hit rock bottom. he asked to join the USA team and they said "we good"...smh.

i can't work under those conditions. how i'm supposed to make people mad when shit like this is happening FOR REAL. i wouldn't have even thought that joint up, because OF COURSE they'd take melo. so the joke wouldn't even be plausible.

but, here we are. i'm done with this.

damn.

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It’s cool, good luck to the B squad.
Aug 08th 2019
1
My guy must've really pissed somebody off. Had to have been smashing...
Aug 08th 2019
2
damb © Roscoe.
Aug 08th 2019
3
Why are they treating Melo like this?
Aug 08th 2019
4
Jeremy Lin played for like 10 teams
Aug 08th 2019
5
Lol whatt is melo gonna do in todays nba?
Aug 08th 2019
6
exactly. he hasnt shown that he does anything else well
Aug 08th 2019
8
Do his best Vince Carter impression
Aug 09th 2019
17
      Please don't make me compliment Vince Carter.
Aug 09th 2019
21
Over the last two years, Melo dropped very hard.
Aug 08th 2019
9
take this bullshit to r/nba
Aug 09th 2019
16
Never heard of it and I'm happy right here
Aug 09th 2019
20
that says how bad the cavs are and even for bad teams they want ...
Aug 10th 2019
33
He’s worse than that actually... lol
Aug 13th 2019
48
There’s been rumblings for weeks that the Warriors might sign him
Aug 08th 2019
7
Fam. It’s CARMELO.
Aug 08th 2019
11
There’s no way that last stat is true
Aug 08th 2019
12
      You're right, lol. The point still stands, but I did fuck that up.
Aug 08th 2019
14
but he is a ball stopper and also a defensive liability
Aug 09th 2019
24
Why would they take him even on a B or a C team?
Aug 08th 2019
10
Yup. And still best Latino to ever pick up a basektball. : - )
Aug 08th 2019
13
uh counting guys who played freshmen ball doesn't help your argument
Aug 09th 2019
22
      Bwhahah you maddd??? Carmelo CHANGED the one-and-done convo
Aug 10th 2019
25
           This is undeniably, indisputably true.
Aug 10th 2019
26
           Sean Miller - with 2 other trips to the championship game
Aug 10th 2019
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                Okay, fine. Without Melo, he's Thad Matta with a zone.
Aug 10th 2019
28
                     It got him over the hump, no doubt
Aug 10th 2019
30
                     LMAO! Huh? That's now how sports works, bro
Aug 11th 2019
35
                          Boeheim is the best coach Carmelo played for
Aug 11th 2019
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                               And Mr. Great Coach ain't win shit without Melo. Funny, aint it?
Aug 11th 2019
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                                    the hall of fame coach won with the hall of fame player
Aug 12th 2019
47
                                         It's a fairly basic science experiment
Aug 13th 2019
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                     Thad Matta was a better coach than Sean Miller.
Aug 13th 2019
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                          Well yeah. That's why I mentioned them in that order.
Aug 14th 2019
60
           very shortly after him they all HAD to do it.
Aug 10th 2019
32
                LOL!!! UK '12 had #1 + #2 overall picks, 4-1st ROUNDERS!!! LMAO
Aug 11th 2019
34
                     LMAO you do realize 2003 was recent enough that we saw it, right?
Aug 11th 2019
40
                          MELO IS MOST ICONIC NCAA FRESHMAN EVER!! LMAOO!!!
Aug 12th 2019
46
                               Iconic. Paradigm. Aren't these just words for people who want to
Aug 14th 2019
54
                                    Maybe! But they are true when applied to Carmel-egend
Aug 14th 2019
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I don't like it. He should definitely be on a NBA team.
Aug 08th 2019
15
its time to sign that 1 day w/ Denver/NYK and retire.
Aug 09th 2019
18
Guaranteed to get bounced by Serbia now..
Aug 09th 2019
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this whole tournament looks like like trash
Aug 09th 2019
23
Is Canada at risk of not qualifying for an Olympic basketball berth?
Aug 10th 2019
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      Yes, 2000 was the last time they qualified. Weird, right?
Aug 10th 2019
31
           They could realistically field the second best team on Earth.
Aug 11th 2019
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                They have a good coach, too (Nurse) and they just lost to Nigeria
Aug 11th 2019
41
                     Didn't they just lose Olynyk too?
Aug 11th 2019
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Yea, they look like some shit. Scrimmage or not.
Aug 15th 2019
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If he's willing to accept a lesser role, he should be on a team
Aug 11th 2019
39
I think Melo
Aug 12th 2019
43
How is that political?
Aug 13th 2019
49
It’s baffling how many people have told me this.
Aug 13th 2019
50
Less cabal, more groupthink
Aug 14th 2019
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      There is just no fit for him, basically
Aug 14th 2019
57
      thats not groupthink Erykah
Aug 15th 2019
63
The last part is the cherry on top
Aug 14th 2019
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*grabs diction dictionary* *flips to P* *finds "political"*
Aug 14th 2019
55
Worse league exit: Melo or Iverson?
Aug 12th 2019
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so far Melo because he hasnt actually gotten an exit.
Aug 12th 2019
45
Same basic thing, refusal to adapt, indifference from the league
Aug 14th 2019
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      https://images.app.goo.gl/2WmiXAd4n2978HCk7
Aug 15th 2019
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Is Melo signing with Brooklyn?
Aug 17th 2019
64
Those jab steps looking extra crisp in his workout videos. Sign him
Aug 17th 2019
65

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1. "It’s cool, good luck to the B squad."
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2. "My guy must've really pissed somebody off. Had to have been smashing..."
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wives or something.

DAYUM!

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3. "damb © Roscoe."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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4. "Why are they treating Melo like this?"
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Melo is at worst a sixth man for the Cavs right today. Melo is still good but the media's narrative over the years finally caught up to him.

On some Petty shit this is karma for Jeremy Lin. If Melo took a step back and let Jeremy cook years ago encouraging the Knicks to keep him Melo wouldn't be in this situation now. The narrative of Melo not willing to accept a lesser role and help develop younger teammates wouldn't exist.

Y'all gotta stop being so hard on Melo.

  

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5. "Jeremy Lin played for like 10 teams"
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Who held him back on the other 9 teams?

  

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6. "Lol whatt is melo gonna do in todays nba?"
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Hes not good enough anymore to dominate an offense so whats the point. He needed to transform into a 3 and something guy and he never did.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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8. "exactly. he hasnt shown that he does anything else well"
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17. "Do his best Vince Carter impression"
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By coming off the bench and getting buckets but most importantly be a veteran that helps younger players develop. He can easily stick around if he's willing to work harder on defense and do those things but someone needs to take a chance on him.

  

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21. "Please don't make me compliment Vince Carter."
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Vince shot better from 3 last year than Melo has done in all but one of the seasons in his entire career.

His career assist rate is better, his career turnover rate is lower. His career BPM is better, both on offense and defense. His Value Over Replacement Player, while not very good, is still better than Melo's, which is negative over his last 150 games.

Again, there's a reason beyond the "narrative" excuse that Melo isn't on a team right now. You think a team like the Magic or the Hornets couldn't use a min-salary veteran to guide the young guys? You think Bron, if he wanted, couldn't pick up the phone and get Melo on the end of the Laker bench before end of business today?

Bottom line is there are players that are better for a team construct than Melo out there, players who provide obvious bench value, like shooting or defense or rebounding or energy. Guys whose main skill is high-volume scoring don't make it past their mid-30s in the NBA very often. Once Melo's scoring efficiency started to dip, that was that.

There's no shame in that-- he was one of the best in the game at what he did during his era, and he'll be in the HOF. But I have yet to hear why Melo should be on a team other than "he was good three seasons ago." Many stars fade quickly in the NBA, Melo is one of them. And that's okay.

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9. "Over the last two years, Melo dropped very hard."
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In that span, he has easily the worst BPM and VORP of any player over 30. He doesn’t defend, and he doesn’t pass. If you’re hooping like crazy on offense, then that’s still of great value— but he’s not.

In order to stick in the league as a vet, he’d have to either make open 3s at a high rate, move the ball well, or play halfway decent defense. Which of those things can Melo do?

He’s had a terrific career. But some dudes just fall off hard when they fall. Melo is one of them. No shame in that. But it’s not a conspiracy or a narrative. The stats and analytics show that he’s not of value anymore.

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16. "take this bullshit to r/nba "
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20. "Never heard of it and I'm happy right here"
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Thank you for the hearfelt concern about my well-being!

  

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33. "that says how bad the cavs are and even for bad teams they want ..."
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someone with a future and some upside. what benefit is there for them to get a super old guy and give him minutes?

he's done, let's just accept it. he had a nice ride.

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48. "He’s worse than that actually... lol"
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>Melo is at worst a sixth man for the Cavs right today.

That Cavs squad is stacked right now!!!!!!!! Maybe he should go to China.


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7. "There’s been rumblings for weeks that the Warriors might sign him "
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It’s not a bad idea,’as they’ve been making scoring a priority. As long as he isn’t a ball stopper, he’d probably fit it. Shoot, with out shortage of wings, he might even have a shot at starting.

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11. "Fam. It’s CARMELO."
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>As long as he isn’t a ball stopper, he’d
>probably fit it.

Melo had Bismack Biyombo’s assist rate two years ago and Dwight Howard’s assist rate during his short stint for the Rockets. He’s averaged 1.3 APG over the past six seasons.

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12. "There’s no way that last stat is true"
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Did you mean over the last two seasons?

He played 10 games last season: most of them with Harden hurt, Paul suspended, or both.

His role in OKC wasn’t really conducive to getting assists.

He averaged 3-4 APG every season in his last 4 seasons in NY.

  

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14. "You're right, lol. The point still stands, but I did fuck that up."
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That's what I get for posting on OKP on my goddamn phone under the table during a meeting. I must've inadvertently moved the fucking Sports Reference stat slider. My bad.

The point stands, though. I mean, set aside the 1.5 APG over his last three years, one can come up with excuses for that, etc.-- but his career assist rate is atrociously low for a guy with his usage. When Antoine Walker and Ricky Davis both have *notably* higher career assist rates, that says there's a reason Melo isn't remotely known for his passing. He's a ball stopper.

Which, again, as said above, when he was at his peak, he was one of the best iso offense players in the world, and while he was never an especially good defender, he was closer to okay than terrible on D in his mid-to-late twenties. But now that his defense has declined considerably, and now that his shooting has been trending downward, he has to be able to move the ball to be considered for a vet position on a team. And that's just never been his game.

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24. "but he is a ball stopper and also a defensive liability"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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10. "Why would they take him even on a B or a C team?"
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There are a dozen or so players on Team USA, there are 450 or so players in the NBA and he can't find one roster slot. Not surprising. I think it's kind of embarrassing that he asked. They are hard up for players, sure, but not that hard up.

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13. "Yup. And still best Latino to ever pick up a basektball. : - ) "
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Best freshman ever too....NOPE Lew and them played Freshman
ball

Pioneer o yes he is

Still going to Springfield too

  

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22. "uh counting guys who played freshmen ball doesn't help your argument"
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dudes like alcindor, chamberlain and maravich are part of why the concept was eventually trashed. they were the best players in the country relegated to some halfassed JV shit.

the fact that he's better than manu and maybe oscar schmidt doesn't mean anything to anyone.

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25. "Bwhahah you maddd??? Carmelo CHANGED the one-and-done convo"
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Carmelo DECIDED to go to school one year, went and
WON by HIMSELF (not teaming up with 17 OTHER 5-stars
like Anthony Davis and all them dudes

He's most ICONIC Freshman in MANY DECADES and one of the
most important ever

But college don't count to y'all!?!?! BWahahahahahhsa

EVERYONE followed that model. From him to Durant to
Zion -- EVERYONE has TRIED

Melo went and DID IT

Also: NO SINGLE PLAYER has saved a legacy like Melo and
Boeheim

  

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26. "This is undeniably, indisputably true."
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>Also: NO SINGLE PLAYER has saved a legacy like Melo and
>Boeheim

Without Melo, Boeheim is Sean Miller with a zone.

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27. "Sean Miller - with 2 other trips to the championship game"
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So....not really like Sean Miller at all.

  

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28. "Okay, fine. Without Melo, he's Thad Matta with a zone."
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Point remains that for coaching legacies, there are two piles: those with a title and those without.

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30. "It got him over the hump, no doubt"
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was bound to happen, though. Should’ve happened in ‘87. Could’ve happened a few other times with some better fortune.

I can’t really think of another coach with similar accomplishments and no titles. They all got one eventually.

Boeheim’s underrated for getting the most out of his stars though. Any of the criticisms of Melo, Coleman, Billy Owens, etc that came about in the pros....nobody was saying that in college.

  

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35. "LMAO! Huh? That's now how sports works, bro"
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>was bound to happen, though. Should’ve happened in ‘87.
>Could’ve happened a few other times with some better
>fortune.

LMAO @ "it'll happen eventually"

That isn't how it works

Carmelo DID THAT FOR HIM

>I can’t really think of another coach with similar
>accomplishments and no titles. They all got one eventually.

Bwhahaha exactly. He had never won anything big

>Boeheim’s underrated for getting the most out of his stars
>though. Any of the criticisms of Melo, Coleman, Billy Owens,
>etc that came about in the pros....nobody was saying that in
>college.

Huh!?!? That isn't even a statistic. Melo was a Freshman...
Boeheim didn't *develop* shit. Melo developed his damn self.

The rest? So you're saying Boeheim recruits well? Why are we
inventing things that he's good at? LMAO

Melo SAVED his legacy. As a FRESHMAN.




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36. "Boeheim is the best coach Carmelo played for"
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>>was bound to happen, though. Should’ve happened in ‘87.
>
>>Could’ve happened a few other times with some better
>>fortune.
>
>LMAO @ "it'll happen eventually"
>
>That isn't how it works
>
>Carmelo DID THAT FOR HIM

In a sport where the champ is determined in a one and done format, I think if you put enough strong teams in the field for decades and decades, you’ll win one eventually. Often takes some luck. UConn washed Cuse twice that year. Texas knocked UConn out. I’ll take it.

>>I can’t really think of another coach with similar
>>accomplishments and no titles. They all got one eventually.
>
>Bwhahaha exactly. He had never won anything big


Take away that title....Can you think of another coach with a similar resume? Sean Miller and Thad Matta ain’t it. Great coaches like Chaney and Keady were never that close to a title. Boeheim was kinda the only guy that had won that many games, league titles, etc. and been to the championship game multiple times, without a title.


>>Boeheim’s underrated for getting the most out of his stars
>>though. Any of the criticisms of Melo, Coleman, Billy
>Owens,
>>etc that came about in the pros....nobody was saying that in
>>college.
>
>Huh!?!? That isn't even a statistic. Melo was a Freshman...
>Boeheim didn't *develop* shit. Melo developed his damn self.

I didn’t say anything about developing. Of course he didn’t “develop” Melo. Melo was an NBA player from day 1. I’m talking about coaching his teams and stars and getting the most out of them. It doesn’t have to be a statistic. It’s an observation, based on watching hundreds of thousands of games. Boeheim let Carmelo shine with no dumb shit, and the offense flowed beautifully. Sounds simple, but “offensive genius” Pringles couldn’t really figure it out because his own ego got in the way.


>The rest? So you're saying Boeheim recruits well? Why are we
>inventing things that he's good at? LMAO

He used to recruit well, yes. Not so much anymore. He still knows how to win games though.

>Melo SAVED his legacy. As a FRESHMAN.
>

The title took his legacy up a notch to where he got credit for being a great coach. But he was still a great coach prior to the title. That was certified when he took a very marginally talented 1996 team to the title game.

  

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37. "And Mr. Great Coach ain't win shit without Melo. Funny, aint it? "
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Melo made him

  

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47. "the hall of fame coach won with the hall of fame player"
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That’s usually how it goes.

  

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51. "It's a fairly basic science experiment"
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Without Melo? Boeheim didn't win dookie

With FRESHMAN Melo? Boeheim wins

Kind of amazing

  

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52. "Thad Matta was a better coach than Sean Miller."
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and yes Melo saved Boeheims legacy


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60. "Well yeah. That's why I mentioned them in that order."
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He objected to the Miller comparison, so I upgraded him to Matta.

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32. "very shortly after him they all HAD to do it."
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i can't even make sense of what you're saying here.

he's the best freshman probably, at least in the convo with davis and zion and the title sets him apart there. but now you wanna talk about wilt, kareem, pistol pete, oscar, etc. nah, that doesn't pass muster.

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34. "LOL!!! UK '12 had #1 + #2 overall picks, 4-1st ROUNDERS!!! LMAO"
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Anthony Davis' team is one of the most talented
teams ever.

Carmelo took his team and WON BY HIM FUCKING SELF.
ALL. CARMELO. He's AT LEAST the most iconic IN DECADES
and one of the best ALL.TIME.

And Zion's had #1 AND 3 AND another lottery pick and
didn't win shit!! (The Jones kid is probably a late
first this year...so that's *FOUR*)

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40. "LMAO you do realize 2003 was recent enough that we saw it, right?"
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they had a good team including another first rounder. we aren't talking about the teams, we're talking about the individuals. face it, you tried to expand the discussion in a direction you shouldn't have and now you're flailing around trying to obfuscate the discussion to cover it.

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46. " MELO IS MOST ICONIC NCAA FRESHMAN EVER!! LMAOO!!!"
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CRY ALL YOU WANT!!! ITS A FACT!!!

  

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54. "Iconic. Paradigm. Aren't these just words for people who want to "
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*sound* intelligent?

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59. "Maybe! But they are true when applied to Carmel-egend"
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>*sound* intelligent?

It's true

  

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15. "I don't like it. He should definitely be on a NBA team. "
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18. "its time to sign that 1 day w/ Denver/NYK and retire."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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19. "Guaranteed to get bounced by Serbia now.. "
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Doing the USA legend dirty

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23. "this whole tournament looks like like trash"
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you've got spain getting old and still hanging on at no. 2. serbia has some depth and obviously jokic. aussies have no simmons and canada has a bunch of guys sitting. china might fare decently because of the home court thing but that is about it, their program and the south american ones have fallen off. greece has giannis but we'll see what he can do with pretty limited support. i just don't see a lot of intrigue here, which is a shame because the u.s. is pretty vulnerable with their best guys being like mitchell and tatum.

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29. "Is Canada at risk of not qualifying for an Olympic basketball berth?"
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I confess I don't exactly know how it works, but I know they haven't played in the Olympics since, what, 2000? Something like that?

Murray and Barrett are obviously hurt, but I'm pretty surprised guys like SGA, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Dillon Brooks, Brandon Clarke... didn't Chris Boucher leave too? They should be in position to easily be the deepest non-America team, but now they're reliant on guys like Khem Birch and Kevin Pangos. If they're attempting to qualify for the Olympics, you'd think more guys would compete, especially in a year where the American team will be relatively weak.

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31. "Yes, 2000 was the last time they qualified. Weird, right?"
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Two teams from the Americans will make it out of the World Cup, and seven will qualify overall in addition to the host nation. Then next year there will be a wild-card tournament to determine the final four qualifiers.

They seem to be very disorganized and their ranking is weak, 23rd!!! That's behind countries like Venezuela, Latvia, Brazil, Turkey and Ukraine. No disrespect to any of those programs--we watched the Venezuelan team in person and they played some fierce ass defense--but come on.

It's funny too because in other sports Canada is making a big push. Their hockey reorganization basically fueled an arms race among international developmental programs, their baseball structure is improving, their soccer program is growing and they just built a ton of new tennis facilities with a 20-year outlook toward becoming a bigger force in the sport.

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38. "They could realistically field the second best team on Earth."
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It's unreal that whatever is going on organizationally could cost them an Olympic bid.

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41. "They have a good coach, too (Nurse) and they just lost to Nigeria"
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There's plenty of blame to go around. I dunno how much the Canadian National Program deserves when I really think about it. The players aren't participating. FIBA is trying to be FIFA but there are no exemptions or scheduling considerations to accommodate all these tournaments. I do hope that both Canada and Australia qualify for the Olympics, because they are both really formidable sides.

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42. "Didn't they just lose Olynyk too? "
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I would imagine if they lost Olynyk *and* Boucher before that game, they'd probably struggle, since I also imagine Nigeria has some good size on the floor in general.

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62. "Yea, they look like some shit. Scrimmage or not."
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Lethargic, selfish play. No defense.
And they talk about Melo’s defense, smh

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39. "If he's willing to accept a lesser role, he should be on a team"
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Don't know if any team is willing to take that chance though

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43. "I think Melo"
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being pushed out of the league was more political than skill related.

Why pay a vet when you can pay a younger less skilled but hustle/scrappy player.

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49. "How is that political?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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50. "It’s baffling how many people have told me this."
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As if there’s a cabal of owners conspiring against Melo, the new Colin Kaepernick.

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53. "Less cabal, more groupthink"
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It seems the NBA has decided he can no longer contribute.. which seems kind of ludicrous considering how many teams actively tank every year.

Plus there were the rumors that Bzdelik retired from Houston bc he didn't want to deal with Carmelo again and D'Antoni had a complicated relationship with him as well.

I don't think Carmelo has THAT bad reputation but Billups comments seem to focus on a perceived lack of humility in Carmelo.

Ultimately, it makes me wonder if teams just don't want to deal with whatever baggage they perceive with him now that he can't be the man every night.

It's sad that it's playing out in public like this too. I can't quite decide whether it's a sign of hubris or humility bc it's gotta be embarrassing.

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57. "There is just no fit for him, basically"
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Good teams can't identify a specific role for him, bad teams would rather have a younger guy with some potential for the future and no team is looking at him like a box office money maker. It isn't that he's worse than every player in the NBA, but he's not a fit for any one team.

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63. "thats not groupthink Erykah"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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58. "The last part is the cherry on top"
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. Melo building basketball courts in the Favelas of Brazil is Political.

Melo speaking up against police brutality is political.

Also Melo (eventhough he is in Lebron's draft class) reminds the powers that be of the Iverson era I think.

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55. "*grabs diction dictionary* *flips to P* *finds "political"*"
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44. "Worse league exit: Melo or Iverson? "
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Cause this is what that feels like.
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45. "so far Melo because he hasnt actually gotten an exit."
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just a "nah we dont want you"

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56. "Same basic thing, refusal to adapt, indifference from the league"
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At least Iverson got a last opportunity from a Sixers team who wanted to repay his time there and was desperate to sell tickets. No one cares enough about Melo for that type of situation to come about here. From a basketball standpoint, it's pretty similar. Guys who wouldn't take a lesser role willingly and didn't adapt their games to their aging bodies. At least Iverson could sort of play in his bounce-around period, Melo looked pretty washed, but that's splitting hairs. Shouldn't take away from what either guy did during their NBA careers, like winning four scoring titles, as many steals crowns, a league MVP, going to the Finals ... and also whatever Melo did.

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61. "https://images.app.goo.gl/2WmiXAd4n2978HCk7"
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64. "Is Melo signing with Brooklyn?"
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Humble Hoodie Melo is ready for his final stint as an NBA player. He will do anything to get back in the league.

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65. "Those jab steps looking extra crisp in his workout videos. Sign him"
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