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mrhood75
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"Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs dies in Texas"


  

          

WTF? No cause of death has been released.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27099081/angels-pitcher-skaggs-dies-texas-team-says

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geez...this is wild similar to Darry Kile...
Jul 01st 2019
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27, wtf??
Jul 01st 2019
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"players that didnt know him were visibly shaken"
Jul 01st 2019
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Rest in peace.
Jul 02nd 2019
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RE: Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs dies in Texas
Aug 30th 2019
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This story...it's ugly.
Sep 02nd 2019
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I don't understand how he could hide that severe a problem....
Sep 02nd 2019
7
      Addicts are *insanely* good at lying and manipulating.
Sep 02nd 2019
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           Yeah, I get that. Seen it too.
Sep 02nd 2019
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An addict.....That's a shame.
Sep 02nd 2019
10
America's Whites (c)
Sep 03rd 2019
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Angels play in Texas a lot
Sep 03rd 2019
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Completely possible...but I'm not sure that makes it better
Sep 03rd 2019
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yeah, exactly, countless examples
Sep 05th 2019
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      yep countless stories of dealers who cater to athletes and celebs
Sep 06th 2019
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TSA does not care about drugs.
Sep 03rd 2019
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      Meh...assuming he transported enough opiates for the road trip...
Sep 03rd 2019
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      do you have TSA pre check?
Sep 03rd 2019
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      No...?
Sep 03rd 2019
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      I'm precheck with only a carry on almost always
Sep 03rd 2019
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           We're talking about a MLB player heading out for a week's long road trip
Sep 03rd 2019
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           He could easily carry on a bunch of pills and patches.
Sep 05th 2019
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           flying out of california is basically a free pass
Sep 03rd 2019
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           I'm guessing the weed is a small amount
Sep 03rd 2019
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                The Baffling Legal Gray Zone of Marijuana at the Airport
Sep 05th 2019
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           okay I travel for work too. Need some tips on this
Sep 06th 2019
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                Are you YT? How many syllables are in your name?
Sep 06th 2019
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                I'm brown. definitely adds to the paranoia
Sep 06th 2019
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                     Analog trees, I use to stuff a couple of grams in my deodorant
Sep 06th 2019
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                edibles are the best for traveling
Sep 06th 2019
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                     the pens also but now they have all these warnings about e-cigs
Sep 06th 2019
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      the screening for a charter is basically nothing
Sep 05th 2019
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           ...but...we can agree that that is illegal...yes?
Sep 05th 2019
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                yeah it's illegal but it's not like they can arrest him
Sep 06th 2019
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1. "geez...this is wild similar to Darry Kile..."
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passing away in his hotel room in Chicago during a series against the Cubs. RIP, young man. Damn.

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3. ""players that didnt know him were visibly shaken""
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damn man, what if he died at the field and they saw? brutal.

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Shaun Tha Don
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4. "Rest in peace."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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5. "RE: Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs dies in Texas"
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https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2019-08-30/tyler-skaggs-autopsy-report-fentanyl-oxycodone-alcohol-angels-rusty-hardin

  

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6. "This story...it's ugly."
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7. "I don't understand how he could hide that severe a problem...."
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...under the scrutiny an MLB player receives. I mean, in the old days players could get up to all kinds of things, but today? Nobody noticed?

Maybe I'm naive.

  

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8. "Addicts are *insanely* good at lying and manipulating."
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Dealt with multiple close friends. You suspect, they convince you otherwise. Then you find evidence-- they convince you that you're wrong. Ultimately you stop believing them, but an addict deep in the throes of their disease can be *incredibly* convincing. Sometimes you won't know they've relapsed-- or that they've had a serious problem at all-- until it's too late.

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9. "Yeah, I get that. Seen it too."
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Just that it seems an MLB team would have tighter controls than the rest of us experience. Guess not.

  

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10. "An addict.....That's a shame. "
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Died before he could get some help.

  

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11. "America's Whites (c)"
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The soundbite from the manager...'this changes nothing'...combined with the fact that he was taking Fentanyl and an LAA employee has been rumored to be involved

Yeah, something's really off here.

At worst, he was getting his opioids through channels associated with the club

At best, he copped through illegal channels...but it still leaves the question of how he didn't pop on urine samples...?

He died a day after they arrived in Texas for a series

...so if he was acting alone in his addiction, how did he get all of these substances through TSA...?

So many ?s, and what's been offered to date doesn't add up.

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12. "Angels play in Texas a lot"
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he had his connects in cities he frequents most likely. Or if he didnt players dont go through security like we do. Chartered planes and they get a wand and thats it.

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14. "Completely possible...but I'm not sure that makes it better"
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If acting alone

You have a MLB player transporting controlled substances
or copping on the street when on the road

= should be enough to get popped

Not to mention his usage when home

= should be enough to set off alarms

my issue is, itwabm.

It feels like, they want to bury this story

it definitely has legs

but my guess is, nobody will follow up

itwabm, we'd have names, dates and times, and a criminal prosecutions.

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24. "yeah, exactly, countless examples"
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not naming names but i had a buddy who traded two zones of bud for world series tickets from a visiting player.

another cat i knew that sold yay had two players from a divisional rival hit him up as soon as they got off the plane for a game. he was the first guy they called.

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32. "yep countless stories of dealers who cater to athletes and celebs"
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once they get off a plane in their town they get a call and meet up at hotel with enough to last the trip.

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13. "TSA does not care about drugs."
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https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/medical-marijuana

"Accordingly, TSA security officers do not search for marijuana or other illegal drugs, but if any illegal substance is discovered during security screening, TSA will refer the matter to a law enforcement officer."

Opiods can look like any other legit medication, and even if they didn't - they don't care. And that's NOT counting on charter/private, etc flights.

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15. "Meh...assuming he transported enough opiates for the road trip..."
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...which then continued on to HOU...

TSA won't know what those substances are during initial screening

A bunch of pills and fentanyl patches will definitely come up on a scanner...and TSA will go through your suitcase in that example

I travel for work

They go through my suitcase everytime because part of my demo equipment looks like it could be a controlled substance on a scanner.

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16. "do you have TSA pre check?"
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>...which then continued on to HOU...
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>TSA won't know what those substances are during initial
>screening
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>A bunch of pills and fentanyl patches will definitely come up
>on a scanner...and TSA will go through your suitcase in that
>example
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>I travel for work
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>They go through my suitcase everytime because part of my demo
>equipment looks like it could be a controlled substance on a
>scanner.

  

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17. "No...?"
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I'm usually given priority by the airline

TSA precheck just moves you through the security line quicker...right?

I'm saying, a checked bag still goes through security

...in addition to whatever you pass through the scanners in your carry on...

I literally can't carry on my demo equipment

...and everytime, there's the little insert that TSA leaves behind when they go through your bag...

They may not be intentionally checking for 'drugs', but best believe if you have a bunch on shit in your suitcase...TSA is going through it.

I did sign up for Clear, but didn't need to use it enough in order to cough up subscription $$$

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18. "I'm precheck with only a carry on almost always"
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I travel a lot for work as well. I've never had my shit opened for more than having 2 laptops in a bag before.

I often bring weed. They do not care.

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19. "We're talking about a MLB player heading out for a week's long road trip"
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Are you assuming he wouldn't have luggage and that he could carry on a week's supply of opiates?

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23. "He could easily carry on a bunch of pills and patches."
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I don't count out medicine pills and vitamins when I travel, I'll just pour a bunch into a Ziploc and bring that in my backpack. No one ever cares. My buddy routinely travels with a shitload of shrooms. No one ever cares.

You'd have to have sooooooooo many pills for TSA to give a shit. Like... pounds of pills.

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20. "flying out of california is basically a free pass"
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to bring weed with you anywhere domestically

  

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21. "I'm guessing the weed is a small amount"
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You put that through the scanner, it comes up an orange color, as being organic

= they don't know what it is

if there is enough of it, say more than than the 2oz rule or whatever it is for liquids, etc...

Yeah, they're going to check.

A vape pen
a few grams
= isn't over the limit.

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22. "The Baffling Legal Gray Zone of Marijuana at the Airport"
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Just posting this for more insight

There's a line about drugs coming up on the scanner which is analogous to what I was trying to say

"One path to a bad trip: TSA X-ray scanners sometimes flag organic material, which sometimes can have the same density as explosive materials."

i.e. they're not looking for drugs, but enough of an amount of drugs looks like something they need to search the bag for

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-baffling-legal-gray-zone-of-marijuana-at-the-airport-11567589405?mod=rsswn

The contradiction between federal and local laws can feel especially confusing to travelers in states where pot has been legalized

ILLUSTRATION: ROB WILSON

By Scott McCartney
Sept. 4, 2019 5:30 am ET
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In the cloudy world of travel with marijuana, what gets dispensed in Vegas should probably get smoked in Vegas.

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Marijuana tourism is booming here, as it has in Colorado, Oregon and elsewhere. But what’s allowed and what’s legal at airports and hotels can feel like a confounding set of contradictions.

Possessing limited quantities of recreational marijuana is legal in Denver and Las Vegas, but it’s illegal at the airports in those cities. Not true in Los Angeles, Boston and Seattle, where possession at the airport is allowed up to certain limits.

And what may be legal locally isn’t legal federally, or in most destination states. It’s also illegal to transport marijuana across state lines, even from one state where it’s legal to another. So the federal Transportation Security Administration is in a tough spot. TSA is supposed to be looking for things that get you killed, not high.


The Transportation Security Administration says screeners focus on finding threats to airplanes and passengers. But if they do come across marijuana in carry-on bags, they call police even in states where it’s legalized in small quantities. PHOTO: PATRICK T. FALLON/BLOOMBERG NEWS
Even advertising at the airport is tricky. The Las Vegas airport prohibits pot ads in the terminals, so dispensaries have plastered them on taxis that line up at airport doors to advertise cannabis as soon as visitors walk out.

TSA says its officers, who are administrative and can’t arrest anybody, aren’t actively engaging in joint enforcement. Screeners aren’t searching for marijuana or cannabis-infused products, TSA spokeswoman Danielle Bennett says.

There’s a big however, however. “In the event a substance that appears illegal is discovered during security screening, our officers will refer the matter to a law enforcement officer, who then follow their own procedures,” Ms. Bennett says.

One path to a bad trip: TSA X-ray scanners sometimes flag organic material, which sometimes can have the same density as explosive materials.

In states where marijuana is legal, if you’re within legal limits, you’re released. “We cannot make any arrests if they don’t violate state law,” says Perry Cooper, Sea-Tac Airport spokesman.

Some airport police agencies will confiscate your purchased weed, but others allow you to leave with it. In California, for example, if you bought it legally and are legal to possess it under California law, “airport police would not have any legal authority to prevent anyone from traveling with it,” says Rob Pedregon, spokesman for the Los Angeles Airport Police.


Amnesty boxes at entrances get frequent use at McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas, airport officials say. The deposited drugs are collected by a contractor under police supervision and destroyed. PHOTO: REGINA GARCIA CANO/ASSOCIATED PRESS
Recreational marijuana is now legal in 10 states, with Illinois also in the process of legalization. Some airports in legalized states say calls to investigate have gone up considerably. In Portland, Ore., for example, where recreational marijuana became legal four years ago, marijuana calls from TSA to Port of Portland police have jumped to 137 through July this year from 14 in all of 2014.

If a traveler is of legal age and has a legal amount and a boarding pass for a destination in Oregon, he or she may fly with marijuana. If the boarding pass is for out of state, the police ask passengers to get rid of the pot before flying.

“Very few recreational users seem to have an issue with the rules as they’ve been set forth,” says PDX airport spokeswoman Kama Simonds. “Most of the issues we have at the airport are with large, illegal quantities that suggests attempted illegal activity from criminal elements.”

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LAX says it saw an increase in referrals from TSA and from marijuana-related arrests initially after legalization, but those numbers have dropped off as people better understand the local laws. Same in Denver.

Marijuana tourism is a big deal. The Colorado Department of Revenue says marijuana sales are up to more than $1.5 billion a year, and while the bulk of sales go to the one million users in-state, an estimated 19 million visitors to Colorado bought weed there in 2017. About 60 million people go through Denver’s airport annually.

Taking legally purchased marijuana home may be more of a temptation, since consuming it when traveling can be far more difficult than people realize.


Advertising by legal marijuana dispensaries such as MedMen is banned at McCarran Airport, so pot sellers have plastered advertisements on taxi cabs that line up outside terminal doors. PHOTO: SCOTT MCCARTNEY/THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
In Las Vegas, dispensaries near the Vegas Strip report 75% to 85% of sales come from travelers, some of whom walk in straight from the airport with their luggage. But casinos prohibit all forms of marijuana, including vaping and edibles. If room cleaners find a stash, they can confiscate it. Security watching hotel lobbies sometimes stop guests with dispensary bags and seize purchases. Casinos have federal gambling licenses and don’t want federal crimes committed on their property.

Hotels typically levy heavy fines for smoking in rooms. The deep-cleaning fee at Mandalay Bay and Bellagio is $500 for a standard room. Car rental firms have similar policies, and smoking weed in cars remains illegal.


One legal way to smoke: get a smoking-allowed room on Airbnb or house with a private yard. (The high-end Cosmopolitan does have rooms with open-air balconies, though the hotel says consuming marijuana on terraces isn’t permitted.)

Smoking isn’t allowed in public in most places where it has been legalized, but walk on the Strip or downtown Vegas and you can stumble upon the unmistakable whiff of pot.

The Las Vegas airport has installed green amnesty boxes at the most heavily used entrances, and people do use them, says Chris Jones, airport chief marketing officer. On a recent day, the box at a taxi drop-off spot smelled. The airport has a contractor empty boxes under police supervision and destroy contents.


Planet 13’s marijuana ‘superstore’ near the Las Vegas Strip offers light shows and an 18-foot-high water feature, along with more than 70 cannabis strains. PHOTO: PLANET 13 LAS VEGAS
Dispensaries do deliver, but they can’t drop weed at Strip hotels, and they can’t be located on the Strip. They get as close as they can—Planet 13 opened a marijuana “superstore” in November about a 15-minute walk from the Encore at Wynn.

The company is already expanding, trying to become a tourist attraction with live entertainment acts and a restaurant. Executives also have an eye on building a lounge for consumption if that should become allowed. Visitors will be able to see marijuana processed and packaged, even marijuana chocolates being made.

Dispensaries offer child-resistant and smell-resistant bags. They also typically have warning signs about consumption restrictions and travel, and salespeople try to educate consumers.

“They are finding a way,” says Adam Laikin, chief marketing officer at Tryke, the parent of Reef Dispensaries, a dispensary chain. “It’s certainly easier than it has been for a lot of history.”

Write to Scott McCartney at middleseat@wsj.com

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27. "okay I travel for work too. Need some tips on this"
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where do you stash your trees?

I have a friend who hides his concentrate in his toiletry kit. But I'm flower guy and paranoid that the Xray machine gonna pick it up

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30. "I'm brown. definitely adds to the paranoia"
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31. "Analog trees, I use to stuff a couple of grams in my deodorant"
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You'd be surprised how much empty space is in a deodorant container

Hold it upside down, and turn the wheel until the deodorant stick falls out

I would wrap up a couple of grams real good...usually just press and stick saran wrap over the bag they sell them in

Then I would stuff it in the empty container, push it to the bottom, and reinsert the stick part

I figure...if a TSA agent wants to take apart my deodorant for a gram or 2...salute

Now, I just travel with a vape pen.

I did take edibles with me a few times

obviously don't need to be as clandestine with those

But, I stopped taking edibles in the air...because that shit hit me hoard one time...and it was not a pleasant flight.

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29. "edibles are the best for traveling"
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if you're feeling extra paranoid, you can buy some weed gummies and stick them in a bag with regular gummies. then you can even eat some on the flight

as far as flowers go, i haven't done it myself but a good friend of mine straight up just puts it in his bag unhidden and hasn't had any problems

  

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34. "the pens also but now they have all these warnings about e-cigs"
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overall pretty much anything you put in your checked bag, short of explosives, will get through.

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25. "the screening for a charter is basically nothing"
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once i rode a charter because a series had kind of challenging travel and they opened up the remaining three or four spots to media. they did a very perfunctory screening of carry-ons, i guess, but basically waved everyone through. no way in hell were they checking your aspirin bottle to see if it really had percocet inside or whatever.

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26. "...but...we can agree that that is illegal...yes?"
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going back to my initial reply

it was alluded to when the story first broke

...that an angels employee was implicated...

haven't heard anything on that angle since

or, about the illegal implications of his addiction

transporting across state lines...regardless...is illegal.

I want to know more about how he was obtaining these substances

and how it went undetected in a profession that regularly test its workforce for substances

so far we've been given...shrug, nothing to see here...I call bullshit.

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33. "yeah it's illegal but it's not like they can arrest him"
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as far as a team employee providing them, i think that investigation is still ongoing and i haven't heard anything definitive. i haven't been following the story all that closely.

getting painkillers and sleeping pills and shit is so easy it almost seems futile to pursue. teams are doing more to ween guys away from them, putting in routines with natural relaxants, anti-inflammatories, preventive medicine, etc. but some guys still prefer the hard stuff.

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