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81 DUN
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"Non deserving max deals for NBA players"


  

          

Let the hating begin! There should only be a handful of guys getting max deals. Draymond Green is a nice piece and an all star but if the Hawks signed him to a max are they gonna make it past the first round. Al Horford shouldn't be getting AD money. Ben Simmons shouldn't be making LeBron money (Ben is hyped to be an all world player) There should be levels to this

  

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basically anybody not named Bron, KD, Kawhi, Giannis, AD, & Steph
Jun 18th 2019
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Russ, Harden, Lillard, Embid are 2nd or 3rd level
Jun 18th 2019
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I'm still stuck on CP3's 4/160
Jun 18th 2019
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Harrison Barnes makes 25 million. Who's making these decisions?
Jun 18th 2019
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and he declined his option
Jun 18th 2019
11
one of the most overrated
Jun 19th 2019
15
In sports or life you don't get you deserve
Jun 18th 2019
5
right but then you have a situation where Chris Paul is demanding...
Jun 18th 2019
6
I'm not mad at it personally
Jun 18th 2019
7
      I hear you but to move he’ll probably have to take a buyout and...
Jun 18th 2019
8
           Former???
Jun 18th 2019
9
Right, you're worth every cent you can get.
Jun 19th 2019
14
Harrison Barnes off rip.
Jun 18th 2019
10
*paging guru* lol...
Jun 18th 2019
12
      I hope he gets a max but I don't think hes a max player (yet)
Jun 19th 2019
16
It's a function of the soft cap, period.
Jun 19th 2019
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ThaTruth
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1. "basically anybody not named Bron, KD, Kawhi, Giannis, AD, & Steph"
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81 DUN
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2. "Russ, Harden, Lillard, Embid are 2nd or 3rd level "
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3. "I'm still stuck on CP3's 4/160"
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A never won nothing
+30Y.O.
...with a hamstring injury...

can get those numbers...I honestly can't say anyone else looking at a max doesn't deserve it

How long before we're at a tipping point where a max contract eats up so much of a team's cap...that they CAN'T sign other high profile players

The numbers some of these guys are looking at are ridiculous.

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81 DUN
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4. "Harrison Barnes makes 25 million. Who's making these decisions?"
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11. "and he declined his option "
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Someone is gonna pay more.

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15. "one of the most overrated"
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5. "In sports or life you don't get you deserve"
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... only what you have the leverage to negotiate (c) Jalen

Get your money Blk men, if a team will pay for it that's on them

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ThaTruth
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6. "right but then you have a situation where Chris Paul is demanding..."
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a trade but nobody wants him because of his contract.

At 34 you can’t expect to get max money AND be on a contender sometimes you have to make a choice. If he wanted to “ring chase” at the end of his career he should’ve taken less money lol

  

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7. "I'm not mad at it personally"
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It doesn't make the MOST sense to me for reasons you stated, but IF he can finesse that contract and somehow strongarm his way to another contender with a better fit, good for him

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ThaTruth
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8. "I hear you but to move he’ll probably have to take a buyout and..."
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as a former president of the players association I can’t see him leaving money on the table either lol

  

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9. "Former???"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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14. "Right, you're worth every cent you can get."
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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10. "Harrison Barnes off rip."
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Let me hate preemptively on whoever gives him the max.

Main thing we see after the finals loss is the beginning of the end of these short term deals to form superteams. Players sign full deals to get their money.

I'm reserving a seat here to shit on the next max deal someone gets that shouldnt get it.

Who maxes DeAngelo Russell?

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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12. "*paging guru* lol..."
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>Let me hate preemptively on whoever gives him the max.
>
>Main thing we see after the finals loss is the beginning of
>the end of these short term deals to form superteams. Players
>sign full deals to get their money.
>
>I'm reserving a seat here to shit on the next max deal someone
>gets that shouldnt get it.
>
>Who maxes DeAngelo Russell?

  

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16. "I hope he gets a max but I don't think hes a max player (yet)"
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who knows, someone will overpay


>>Let me hate preemptively on whoever gives him the max.
>>
>>Main thing we see after the finals loss is the beginning of
>>the end of these short term deals to form superteams.
>Players
>>sign full deals to get their money.
>>
>>I'm reserving a seat here to shit on the next max deal
>someone
>>gets that shouldnt get it.
>>
>>Who maxes DeAngelo Russell?
>

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13. "It's a function of the soft cap, period."
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Look at other sports like the NFL and NHL that have hard caps. The NHL put in a salary cap in 2006. Guess how many players have gotten max deals since then? Exactly zero.

They let teams spend over the cap to keep their players so that creates false maxes and because teams have to compete with that they will clear space and spend the max also.

I think there has been some correction of the market now that the salaries have gone up and there are more strata between minimum and maximum, but not all that much. I just don't think "max player" is a meaningful designation.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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