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Frank Longo
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"Final Four"


  

          

That... was an ending.

Definitely was a foul. Definitely was also a missed double dribble. Tough break for Auburn.

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Yup. Props to Guy for making all 3 though
Apr 06th 2019
1
For real. I also loved his post-game comments.
Apr 06th 2019
5
Terrible ending.
Apr 06th 2019
2
Bennett gets major criticism if they lose that game
Apr 06th 2019
3
This is so underappreciated by fans/writers/etc.
Apr 06th 2019
4
Y’all notice the bald ref’s running style?
Apr 06th 2019
6
Don’t why commentators were saying the foul was “controversial”
Apr 06th 2019
7
I could feel my brain calcify during the first half of the second game.
Apr 06th 2019
8
Yup, that might do it.
Apr 06th 2019
9
thanks Tech
Apr 06th 2019
10
Izzo: We had to be TOUGHER than them and we weren’t!
Apr 07th 2019
11
lol. He's the worst.
Apr 08th 2019
18
Worst final four in a long long long time
Apr 07th 2019
12
I love it. All the pre-ordained hype train teams are home
Apr 07th 2019
13
abysmal. this will be the "lost" year in tournament history
Apr 07th 2019
14
Why?
Apr 07th 2019
15
Three straight games of 60 possessions or fewer.
Apr 07th 2019
16
      Could we see a game in the 50s?
Apr 08th 2019
17
      Losing team could end up in the 40s imo.
Apr 08th 2019
19
      Good defense can be a beautiful thing
Apr 08th 2019
20
haven't a lot of these been bad in recent memory?
Apr 08th 2019
21
      Probably the worst title game in history.
Apr 08th 2019
22
      the night college basketball died.
Apr 08th 2019
24
Offense has surprisingly heated up after a predictably rough start.
Apr 08th 2019
23
Ty Jerome is soooo "cool"
Apr 08th 2019
25
He's absurdly good. I want him to go pro so badly.
Apr 08th 2019
27
Fun, intense game. F'k the haters
Apr 08th 2019
26
Yup. Aggressive and stifling defense is entertaining to me
Apr 08th 2019
29
Kenny and Charles, STFU
Apr 08th 2019
28
I love that they told both teams to *reject* their entire style.
Apr 08th 2019
30
Hunter > Culver, and Jerome > Mooney.
Apr 08th 2019
31
Clark is the ultimate "coach's player"
Apr 08th 2019
32
I'm so annoyed that he's just a freshman.
Apr 08th 2019
36
      RE: I'm so annoyed that he's just a freshman.
Apr 08th 2019
37
      What?!? I just assumed he was older
Apr 08th 2019
38
Outside of Culver how many NBA players are in this game?
Apr 08th 2019
33
Hunter is a Top 10 pick, and Jerome is a late first rounder.
Apr 08th 2019
34
Probably 3
Apr 08th 2019
35
Good no call on that flop! Led to a layup, like it should
Apr 08th 2019
39
Are you not entertained ??
Apr 08th 2019
40
Great game. Under dead
Apr 08th 2019
41
A pleasant surprise.
Apr 08th 2019
43
Another great game
Apr 08th 2019
42
Pro move by Culver against the best defender in college basketball.
Apr 08th 2019
44
gotdamn instant replay.
Apr 08th 2019
45
Especially on some horseshit like that, lol.
Apr 08th 2019
46
      explaining that rationally sounds like the dumbest shit ever
Apr 08th 2019
47
           There really needs to be a limit.
Apr 08th 2019
48
                aside from being soul-suckingly slow
Apr 08th 2019
51
                The UVA players called for the review.
Apr 08th 2019
53
                I just don't understand what's so special about the last 2 minutes.
Apr 08th 2019
52
                     Or, even easier, have a ref whose sole job is to watch the monitor.
Apr 08th 2019
54
                     Reviewing plays only in the last two minutes is nonsensical.
Apr 08th 2019
57
                          At this point I’d rather have them jump it up or shoot for it
Apr 09th 2019
62
great game*
Apr 08th 2019
49
That’s....not really the reason we have replay
Apr 08th 2019
50
Meh... Didn't ruin anything, still a great game
Apr 08th 2019
55
      It's just the culmination of an entire season of awful replay.
Apr 08th 2019
56
WAHOOWA!!!
Apr 09th 2019
58
Congrats to a true fan.
Apr 09th 2019
59
Hoo rah ray.
Apr 09th 2019
60
Congrats, I’m jealous af
Apr 09th 2019
63
VA has really been the best team in the country for 2 seasons
Apr 09th 2019
61
Just an absolutely obscene run.
Apr 09th 2019
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DJR
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1. "Yup. Props to Guy for making all 3 though"
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That’s crazy pressure.

  

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5. "For real. I also loved his post-game comments."
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He admitted he was terrified. Most kids would pretend they knew they'd make them. Nah. You don't *really* know.

I really want to hate Guy because he's so good. But he makes it hard.

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2. "Terrible ending. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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3. "Bennett gets major criticism if they lose that game"
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The difference between being considered a genius and a moron for a coach is such a thin line and is often out of their control. That was all on the players/refs/luck in the final seconds and it worked out in his favor.

  

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Frank Longo
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4. "This is so underappreciated by fans/writers/etc."
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>The difference between being considered a genius and a moron
>for a coach is such a thin line and is often out of their
>control.

Virginia's been so close to the Final Four before, but they've also gotten the "they'll never make it due to style of play." Same with so many other teams/coaches. It's hard to get there, much less to get that close, much less to *finish.*

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6. "Y’all notice the bald ref’s running style?"
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Lmao

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7. "Don’t why commentators were saying the foul was “controversial”"
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Was clear as hell.

And yeah it was a double dribble.

Crazy fucking ending.

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8. "I could feel my brain calcify during the first half of the second game. "
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Gave up watching it.

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9. "Yup, that might do it. "
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10. "thanks Tech"
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fuck MSU

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11. "Izzo: We had to be TOUGHER than them and we weren’t!"
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I’m so tired of this meathead cliche stuff.

  

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18. "lol. He's the worst."
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12. "Worst final four in a long long long time"
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>That... was an ending.
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>Definitely was a foul. Definitely was also a missed double
>dribble. Tough break for Auburn.

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13. "I love it. All the pre-ordained hype train teams are home "
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Texas Tech has been the best team since late January, and Virginia has been one of the best teams all year.

  

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14. "abysmal. this will be the "lost" year in tournament history"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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15. "Why?"
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16. "Three straight games of 60 possessions or fewer."
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Almost certainly fewer for Monday. Could get as low as, like, 54.

The total in Vegas is 117 for tomorrow, and I'll be taking the under. It's going to be a rock fight the likes of which we haven't seen since Butler/UConn.

I like that it's two teams that've never won before, but man, it's going to be *brutal* basketball.

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17. "Could we see a game in the 50s? "
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I know Tech and M State were throwing up some bricks.


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19. "Losing team could end up in the 40s imo."
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It’s gonna be a 55ish possession game with the two best defenses in basketball, so they’re likely to hold each other to under a point per possession.

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20. "Good defense can be a beautiful thing"
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21. "haven't a lot of these been bad in recent memory?"
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uconn/butler was an all time clunker transcending all sports

  

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22. "Probably the worst title game in history."
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>uconn/butler was an all time clunker transcending all sports

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24. "the night college basketball died."
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>uconn/butler was an all time clunker transcending all sports

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23. "Offense has surprisingly heated up after a predictably rough start."
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Can't believe the under 117.5 might not hit-- I would've taken it all the way to 110.

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25. "Ty Jerome is soooo "cool""
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Love his game, cerebral, chill, $$.

If I was a guard in another life I'd play like him. With a bit more Lift ideally

  

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27. "He's absurdly good. I want him to go pro so badly. "
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I don't want to have to face him again. He always has the knack for the big shot and the clutch decision.

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26. "Fun, intense game. F'k the haters"
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29. "Yup. Aggressive and stifling defense is entertaining to me"
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That ball has seen no parts of that lane

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28. "Kenny and Charles, STFU"
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Worst half time analyst I've heard, even from them.

Showing highlights of Clark passing up shots? Clark? That's what he does. What points are they trying to make? By now you'd think they'd know what this teams about

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30. "I love that they told both teams to *reject* their entire style. "
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Jesus Christ.

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31. "Hunter > Culver, and Jerome > Mooney."
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That's really been the whole game so far.

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32. "Clark is the ultimate "coach's player""
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The older I get the more I appreciate guys like that.

Why I got mad CB and Kenny summerjam screening him at half. He's going exactly everything your want.

  

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36. "I'm so annoyed that he's just a freshman."
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He's going to be a pest for three more years.

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37. "RE: I'm so annoyed that he's just a freshman."
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And by senior year he’ll be in mateen cleaves college god mode

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38. "What?!? I just assumed he was older"
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That's crazy. He must brainwash these kids

  

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33. "Outside of Culver how many NBA players are in this game?"
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34. "Hunter is a Top 10 pick, and Jerome is a late first rounder. "
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I'd take Hunter with the 4th or 5th pick, tbh. Nothing he can't do. I think they'll both go in this draft.

Outside of that, Kyle Guy could be a Diet Coke JJ Redick. He'll get drafted at some point, second rounder for sure imo, though he kind of feels like a guy who'd come back senior year.

Texas Tech doesn't have another pro imo. Maybe guys like Edwards or Moretti could develop under Beard over the next year or two into bench-riding guard types, but it's hard to bet on them right now. They'd have to *really* ball to get there. Great shooters and quality defenders as young college players, though.

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35. "Probably 3"
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39. "Good no call on that flop! Led to a layup, like it should "
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Stay on your damn feet and play the game.

  

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40. "Are you not entertained ??"
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41. "Great game. Under dead"
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43. "A pleasant surprise."
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Not for my under, mind you. But for the enjoyability of the game.

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42. "Another great game"
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44. "Pro move by Culver against the best defender in college basketball."
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Let's see what Bennett draws up.

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45. "gotdamn instant replay."
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46. "Especially on some horseshit like that, lol."
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Kyle Guy intentionally fouls Moretti, we can't review that.

The ball is knocked out, we can review that.

Virginia propels the ball out, but the tiniest skim of the pinky gives the ball to UVA.

That was a decisive moment right there. And much like the last couple of games of the tournament, everything is going UVA's way at the right time.

And I'm gonna win a lot of money on a UVA win, so I'm not even mad about the result-- it's just a disappointing way for a great game to conclude.

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47. "explaining that rationally sounds like the dumbest shit ever"
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too bad it's the truth all the time with instant replay. I knew it was going bad when everybody in the booth -- including Steratore -- were fucking memorized looking for strands of cloth that hit the ball, or an extended fingernail, or whatever the fuck you see with microscopic 4k cameras.

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48. "There really needs to be a limit."
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I'm fine with replay-- but you've got 30 seconds and the players stay on the court, so it's not a proxy timeout. If it's not obvious in 30 seconds, the call stands.

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51. "aside from being soul-suckingly slow"
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...what is the point? correcting obvious no-calls or inventing shit that suddenly pops up like staring at a fucking 3D illusion painting.

the ball was knocked out of bounds by the opposing player. it wasn't reached for, or made any crazy movement, it just grazed the possessing player's hand in normal fashion as it was knocked out of bounds...by an opposing player.

like what are we even looking for anymore? a pivot foot that moved a centimeter? instant replay is actually distorting the game itself (football is just as bad).

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53. "The UVA players called for the review."
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And I suspect they called it just to get a free timeout. They probably didn't even expect to get the ball back.

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52. "I just don't understand what's so special about the last 2 minutes."
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Like at 1:55 it matters enough to go to super slow mo to figure out an out of bounds. But not at 6:23?

They should make them all up for review, but give the refs exactly two looks or 30 seconds.

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54. "Or, even easier, have a ref whose sole job is to watch the monitor."
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That ref has 30 seconds. You don't even need to bring the other refs over or halt the game at all, really.

Granted, they'll never do that. But still.

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57. "Reviewing plays only in the last two minutes is nonsensical. "
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62. "At this point I’d rather have them jump it up or shoot for it"
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That’s how ridiculous the reviews are.

  

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49. "great game*"
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fun seeing both teams play their style and come up big at the end. Hunter went off and his match-up ability on defense is absurd. Virginia going from the disgraces of history to national champions is what the tournament is all about.

* see aforementioned rant on instant replay, which through exhaustively inefficient methods we can change the definitions of competitive sports, frame by frame

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50. "That’s....not really the reason we have replay"
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That was absurd. Ruined a great game.

  

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55. "Meh... Didn't ruin anything, still a great game"
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It was bad but honestly it wasn't like the missed double dribble Saturday. they were down 2 with 80 seconds left.

  

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56. "It's just the culmination of an entire season of awful replay."
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It obviously didn't ruin the game entirely, as it was still a tremendously exciting game.

But of course, after a season of awful officiating and even worse reviews, at an integral moment of an exciting overtime championship game, we get a combination of:

1. missed foul that isn't reviewable
2. needlessly lengthy review
3. review requesting by the leading team in a manner that feels more instigated to get a free timeout than anything else
4. call is reversed because when you frame by frame someone knocking a ball away from a guy, it may linger for a split millisecond on the tip of the finger of the guy who had the ball
5. ball taken away from the team on a fast break looking to tie... and given to the leading team who immediately turns it into a two-possession game

Just an incredible combination of basically every facet of review that every NCAA fan has bitched about all season long.

Virginia whacked the ball. Refs missed the Virginia foul. Just give the ball to Texas Tech. Play on. If you can't determine the call after 20 seconds of monitor review, move along.

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58. "WAHOOWA!!!"
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59. "Congrats to a true fan. "
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60. "Hoo rah ray."
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63. "Congrats, I’m jealous af"
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61. "VA has really been the best team in the country for 2 seasons"
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They were a combined 66-6 the last 2 yrs, 33-3 in the ACC, 33-3 out of conference. Haven't been ranked outside the top 6 since 1/8/18. Had the lowest opponents point avg for 3 yrs.

They're losses:
61-68 @ #18 WVU
60-61 OT loss at home to VT
54-74 tourney loss to UMBC
70-72 @ #1 Duke
71-81 at home to Duke
59-69 to FSU in the ACC tourney

They improved their offense just enough and games like UMBC were a lot less likely.

Good run by the Cavaliers. Also, a National title game that could have been boring was pretty exciting so there's that as well.

Congrats UVA. ACC brings home another one.

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64. "Just an absolutely obscene run."
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One of the best two-year runs I can recall.

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