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Frank Longo
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"Luke Kennard: the next JJ Redick."


  

          

Since the Pistons sent away Stanley Johnson for Not Being As Good As Justise Winslow, Kennard's minutes have increased and he has made the most of them.

He's done 15.5 PPG and 3 RPG, is posting a 3.5:1 AST:TO ratio, and is shooting over 50% from 3.

Just like JJ Redick, Kennard, a deadly shooter from #TheBrotherhood with below-average NBA athleticism, has worked his ass off and been unconstrained by a coach (Doc for JJ, Dwane for Luke) who saw how Stan Van Gundy was wasting his potential. (Interesting that both of these intelligent coaches are black, yet Van Gundy's the one whose "basketball mind" has always been praised. 🤔🤔🤔)

Oh, and since the trade that increased Kennard's PT? The Pistons are 8-2.

Don't be surprised when Kennard is out there in the year 2033 scoring 16+ PPG for a playoff team just like Redick is. Dude knows exactly what his role is, plays it to perfection, and can shoot 40% from 3 for the next decade.

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RE: Luke Kennard is much more atheletic than JJ,
Mar 07th 2019
1
You think?
Aug 24th 2020
19
RE: Luke Kennard: the next JJ Redick.
Mar 07th 2019
2
Mid Mike Dunleavy....yawn
Mar 07th 2019
3
he gon be a lot better than redick
Mar 07th 2019
4
!!!
Mar 07th 2019
6
agreed
Mar 09th 2019
16
Almost forgot that he’s in the league.
Mar 07th 2019
5
I forgot Alex Len was in the league.
Mar 07th 2019
7
      He’s better than all 9 Plumtree brothers.
Mar 07th 2019
8
      he not
Mar 07th 2019
9
      Ok. 3 of them??
Mar 07th 2019
11
      Mason is notably better than Len, cmon. That's inarguable.
Mar 07th 2019
12
           Only one is playing a vital role on a top 2 seed in a harder conference
Mar 07th 2019
13
           ^^^
Mar 07th 2019
14
           Mason can hoop, fuck Alex Len. I've seen Mason hold his own
Mar 07th 2019
15
      Yeah K.D. effed up G'Town & Maryland, he was spose
Mar 07th 2019
10
      Jake Layman catching alley-oops pretty regularly now
Mar 09th 2019
18
i support your thesis, but the narrative is wrong
Mar 09th 2019
17
Another wack ass Duke player
Aug 24th 2020
20

isaaaa
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1. "RE: Luke Kennard is much more atheletic than JJ, "
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not saying you compared them on that level BTW. JJ just got drafted over Donovan Mitchell, who's basically an NBA all-star.

If not for Mitchell I think Kennard would of had less pressure from the press & Piston fans.


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ThaTruth
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19. "You think?"
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>If not for Mitchell I think Kennard would of had less pressure
>from the press & Piston fans.

  

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ThaTruth
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2. "RE: Luke Kennard: the next JJ Redick."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2616463&mesg_id=2616463&listing_type=search

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3. "Mid Mike Dunleavy....yawn"
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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Basaglia
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Thu Mar-07-19 06:09 PM

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4. "he gon be a lot better than redick"
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Frank Longo
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6. "!!!"
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He's definitely ahead of the Redick schedule, I'll give you that.

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16. "agreed"
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5. "Almost forgot that he’s in the league."
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Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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Frank Longo
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7. "I forgot Alex Len was in the league."
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Then I saw him posterized on ESPN last night.

It was the only time a NBA player from Maryland has been featured on ESPN this season, so that's something, at least!

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8. "He’s better than all 9 Plumtree brothers."
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Basaglia
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9. "he not"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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11. "Ok. 3 of them??"
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Frank Longo
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12. "Mason is notably better than Len, cmon. That's inarguable."
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Thu Mar-07-19 07:13 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

Career stats for Len (5th overall pick) and Plumlee (22nd overall pick):

PPG:
Plumlee: 8.5
Len: 7.7

RPG:
Plumlee: 6.3
Len: 6.3

APG:
Plumlee: 2.1
Len: .8 (lmao)

SPG:
Plumlee: .8
Len: .4

BPG:
Plumlee: 1
Len: 1

eFG%:
Plumlee: 57.3%
Len: 49.5%

Box Plus Minus:
Plumlee: 2.4
Len: -1.8 (for his career!)

Value Over Replacement Player:
Plumlee: 11.1
Len: .4

Win Shares:
Plumlee: 29.8
Len: 14.4

I'll give Len pure free throw percentage over Mason. Other than that, Mason is equal to or better than Len at *literally* everything.

Len's BPM, VORP, and WS numbers are actually fairly close to those of Miles, an end-of-first-rounder 5 years older than Len.

But I'll give you that Len, a Top 5 pick, is better than Marshall, an undrafted free agent. So... congrats?

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13. "Only one is playing a vital role on a top 2 seed in a harder conference"
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Plumdawg having a year and brings great energy off the bench. The other gut is only playing because ATL doesn't have anyone else.

  

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Frank Longo
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14. "^^^"
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15. "Mason can hoop, fuck Alex Len. I've seen Mason hold his own"
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with ALL NBA Olympic guys, he fit right in.


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10. "Yeah K.D. effed up G'Town & Maryland, he was spose"
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to hoop in DC or be a Terp.


>It was the only time a NBA player from Maryland has been
>featured on ESPN this season, so that's something, at least!


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18. "Jake Layman catching alley-oops pretty regularly now"
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>It was the only time a NBA player from Maryland has been
>featured on ESPN this season, so that's something, at least!

Solid minutes with Portland this year. Playing better than I ever thought he would in the league.

And if you want to talk Facebook Live, Diamond Stone dropped 15 for the Rio Grande Valley Vipers the other night...

  

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17. "i support your thesis, but the narrative is wrong"
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stanley wasnt in Luke's way, Reggie Bullock was, and to some extent Langston Galloway still is. (i dont understand the fascination SVG and Casey BOTH have with him btw. he had a nice game last night but cmon.)

somebody has to guard 3s and Stanley was the best at that. when bullock sat and galloway played instead of kennard, that aint because of stanley. bc now bruce brown gets stanley's minutes and plays next to Galloway. Kennard cant guard 3s and probably never will. Bullock can guard both tho, and always should have been starting there next to Kennard.

i understand the stanley trade (SVG loyalist id guess, plus contract year) but Reggie Bullock is an elite 3-D player and now the big 3 of Blake/Reggie/Andre is on fire (especially Andre, who will be in the HOF if this is his consistent prime).

Reggie-Kennard-Bullock-Blake-Andre

should be the starting lineup right now. (all acquired and/or developed by SVG). in my perfect world, Stanley is still on the team with the 2nd unit but at least weve gotten return on that.

finally, on Kennard himself, hes playing like this now because hes good enough to do so. i realize that sounds redundant, but this wasnt him as a player even 3 months ago. if you want to give his increased aggression and confidence to Casey i wont argue that, but it wasnt always there, even if the talent/skills were. now hes shooting with minimal delay, and showing creativity. i just hate that we had to move Bullock to bring it out. they should be playing together.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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20. "Another wack ass Duke player "
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