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Marauder21
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"Dell Demps enjoying a LOOOOONG All Star Weekend"


  

          

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1096452173532196864

New Orleans has parted ways with GM Dell Demps, league sources tell ESPN.

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this League is incredible
Feb 15th 2019
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fire sale coming?
Feb 15th 2019
2
Is he ready to coach a rebuild?
Feb 17th 2019
32
Woj with the info....
Feb 15th 2019
3
shouldve taken the deal
Feb 15th 2019
6
Yep, the lack of foresight on Demps part is hilarisad
Feb 15th 2019
11
      They have to play him. Silver threatened $100K a game
Feb 15th 2019
17
           LOL, that makes it even worse
Feb 15th 2019
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           see, I read that wasn't true...
Feb 15th 2019
19
           *shrug*
Feb 15th 2019
24
                hmm... here's what I was referring to...
Feb 15th 2019
28
                the league denied it.
Feb 17th 2019
36
           eat the fine unless they a broke ass franchise. its just ~3 mil.
Feb 15th 2019
22
                They let Cuz walk to the Warriors...you do the math.
Feb 15th 2019
25
Even as a Wolves fan, I pity NO fans and their ownership situation
Feb 15th 2019
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      Look at this shit organization
Feb 15th 2019
27
this reply yo
Feb 15th 2019
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And it's true.
Feb 15th 2019
8
the pels now realize they have played themselves
Feb 15th 2019
5
Nope, if they wanted the Lakers offer
Feb 17th 2019
31
its cute folks still think Ainge will include Tatum.
Feb 17th 2019
38
      It's cute that Laker Fans are still upset
Feb 18th 2019
41
      Also if they trade for AD in order to keep Kyrie
Feb 19th 2019
44
oh please they are not that stupid
Feb 17th 2019
37
I was legit gonna make a post about him leaving the arena...
Feb 15th 2019
7
I mean, bouncing like that on your teammates is pretty shitty.
Feb 15th 2019
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      Went to get an MRI
Feb 15th 2019
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           come on, though, AB...
Feb 15th 2019
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                Senioritis
Feb 15th 2019
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                     yeah, they both playing it wrong at the same time
Feb 15th 2019
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                     I'd argue that they were a piece away.
Feb 15th 2019
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                          Nah fam...
Feb 15th 2019
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David Stern's available
Feb 15th 2019
10
Damn demps lost. This dont really change the pels situation tho
Feb 15th 2019
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has any player ever sat out an entire year in NBA history?..
Feb 15th 2019
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Dell Demps traded Buddy Hield
Feb 16th 2019
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he make the all star team?
Feb 16th 2019
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RE: he make the all star team?
Feb 17th 2019
33
      He traded Buddy Hield for who?
Feb 17th 2019
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           For somebody that plays for the Warriors now
Feb 17th 2019
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LOL @ the time it was considered a shrewd move
Feb 17th 2019
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      when you give up assets to land a "star" then let that star walk...
Feb 18th 2019
40
           lol ol' rear-view mirror ass mf
Feb 18th 2019
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                You don't think ownership looks at it like that? This recent AD trade...
Feb 18th 2019
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Dstl1
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1. "this League is incredible"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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Dr Claw
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2. "fire sale coming?"
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cause... Alvin Gentry can coach us next season if he really wants

  

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LeroyBumpkin
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32. "Is he ready to coach a rebuild?"
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He's more of a stage 2 coach no?

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Dstl1
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3. "Woj with the info...."
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1096454015003607041

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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6. "shouldve taken the deal"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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11. "Yep, the lack of foresight on Demps part is hilarisad"
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Sure, tell the LAL to kick rocks, no doubt

But how could he not anticipate the problem of what to do with AD after you keep him?

Never made sense to play him.

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17. "They have to play him. Silver threatened $100K a game"
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for sitting him when healthy.

And the players association wouldn't have had it either.

I'm also pretty sure AD doesn't want to sit for 4 months either.

Should have just traded him.

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18. "LOL, that makes it even worse"
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Forced to play and risk injury of their most valuable asset

BRILLIANT!!!

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19. "see, I read that wasn't true..."
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about the fine. Gonna try to find it.

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24. "*shrug*"
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25954077/nba-stressed-rest-rule-100k-fine-pelicans-anthony-davis

After reviewing its rules, the league office informed the Pelicans that they would be expected to play Davis, starting with Friday night's nationally televised game against the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources said.

The league referred the Pelicans to rules put in place in 2017 that restrict teams from resting healthy players. The Pelicans, league sources said, were told that they would be subject to a fine of $100,000 per every game if Davis were benched.

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28. "hmm... here's what I was referring to..."
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https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-denies-threatening-fine-pelicans-100k-per-game-sitting-anthony-davis-234207328.html

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36. "the league denied it."
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as far as whether he should have taken the deal or not, i suspect the ownership weighed in on that. no way did they not have an opinion and no way did they allow him to act actively against their interests. i imagine he did their bidding and now they shitcanned him to bring in another set of eyes to oversee the trades talks and pending explosion of the roster. not exactly fair for him but then again he's been there for AD's whole career and they have done little of note. some shit breaks for him for sure (most guys getting hurt) but other things just didn't go well. Plus the foremost bad break (Cousins injury) didn't end up costing them that season, and then they kind of bungled the negotiations afterward. So in isolation I think Demps is being treated unfairly but in the picture it's not relevant and he had his chances over a long time.

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22. "eat the fine unless they a broke ass franchise. its just ~3 mil."
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25. "They let Cuz walk to the Warriors...you do the math."
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20. "Even as a Wolves fan, I pity NO fans and their ownership situation"
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Went from being owned by bargain basement Christian pervert George Shinn to being owned by the league to being the thing Tom Benson's family keeps forgetting they own. Last year the Saints fired a team doctor who misdiagnosed Delvin Breaux's fractured leg, but still let them work for the Pelicans. It's a basketball team owned and operated by people who think basketball is an afterthought.

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Marauder21
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27. "Look at this shit organization"
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If anything, AD was too generous to them.

https://twitter.com/davidaldridgedc/status/1096504026978545666

Make no mistake: no matter who becomes the GM in New Orleans, Mickey Loomis, the head of basketball operations for the Pelicans-and, not unimportantly, the GM of the Saints as well-has all the juice. Owner Gayle Benson trusts him and his opinion more than anyone else.

https://twitter.com/ScoutWithBryan/status/1096502751364767744

Something I just realized about this. I believe the Pelicans don’t have an MRI machine on site after football season. So while AD leaving early was brow-raising, remember: he needed to go to the hospital for it. He probably also already had a plane waiting to take him to CHA. /1

So just something to think about that makes me believe even more that this was just a “final straw” excuse they could use. If those circumstances both true (needed to leave to get an MRI/ plane waiting for him), makes him leaving far less inexplicable. /2 #Pelicans #AnthonyDavis

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4. "this reply yo"
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https://twitter.com/BruhReport/status/1096452559546376192

  

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8. "And it's true."
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Fri Feb-15-19 12:26 PM by auragin_boi

  

          

Everyone can't afford to be an a**hole in negotiations like Pop. The Spurs have multiple rings. The Pels didn't resign Cousins.

Lakers were giving them a young starting 5 and 2 first. They basically would have gotten to manage the Lakers young core until maturity while also getting a lotto pick this year.

Should have taken the deal then shipped Jrue and Niko out. Rolled out...Ball, Hart, Ingram, Randle, Zubac and Kuz for the rest of the season. Jrue could net a lotto pick by himself.

Trade Randle or Kuz over the summer for another pick/player and might have been ready to be a fringe playoff team come next season (that core won 35 games the year before).

Summer =
NO lotto pick (late top 10/early teens likely)
Jrue lotto pick return (likely similar)
Randle/Kuz pick (Top 20 likely)

And a gang of cap space.

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5. "the pels now realize they have played themselves"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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31. "Nope, if they wanted the Lakers offer"
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Demps would have been gone before the trade deadline. As a fan of a team not involved in this situation I think it's fine to me that the Pels let agent Dick(head) Paul twist in the breeze and not let him strongarm the team and dictate terms.

Tatum is better than anyone the Lakers can offer IMO and someone the Pels want. Boston is on AD's list because of his friendship with Kyrie. Ainge can nail down both players allegiances with a trade. I think it gets done.

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38. "its cute folks still think Ainge will include Tatum."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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41. "It's cute that Laker Fans are still upset"
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<-Fear Ameer

  

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44. "Also if they trade for AD in order to keep Kyrie"
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Ainge will damn sure not worry about keeping Tatum to have them both

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37. "oh please they are not that stupid"
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you guys act like demps is in some subterranean layer operating in secrecy. if WE knew about the offer, they knew about it, too, and if they wanted it, they would have insisted he take it. in fact, i suspect strongly that they were the ones who decided to reject it. as a gm you don't make this kind of call without consulting the ownership. also it isn't like they will never get a good offer for AD again, they will be flooded with offers. maybe they won't get as much from an asset management standpoint but they could get close and get a better centerpiece. we are talking about the best big or second best big in the NBA here.

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7. "I was legit gonna make a post about him leaving the arena..."
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last night with Rich Paul after he hurt his shoulder. Apparently, ownership is PISSED.

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9. "I mean, bouncing like that on your teammates is pretty shitty."
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this entire situation sucks.

  

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12. "Went to get an MRI"
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But I suppose they could have said something. My thing is this. Either try to win every game or you should have traded him. You don't keep AD to tank and you can't sit him if he's healthy.

Demps got fired because this whole thing is stupid.

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13. "come on, though, AB..."
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get hurt, get dressed and dip out with your agent? Gentry didn't even know he was gone, lol. Shit is a bit over the top.

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15. "Senioritis"
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They aren't playing him like they normally would. The team is actively quitting when he's out there because of the circumstances.

He and they both know he's out this summer. But because Demps didn't like the trade request going public (legit) he made it personal (stupid).

Nobody is giving them a starting 5 and 2 draft picks for Davis when he can dip next summer.

Should have taken the trade. I ain't with the way Rich Paul is advising AD nor him succumbing to it, but NO bought this on themselves. They continually do the opposite of what a successful franchise should do.

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16. "yeah, they both playing it wrong at the same time"
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21. "I'd argue that they were a piece away."
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And while I would never side with an owner, the franchise at least tried to surround him with pieces. I (somewhat) understand their frustration and hesitancy with not wanting to blow it up right away.

AD is a generational talent who, in theory, should be able to compete with a core of Jrue (arguably a top-15 guy), Randle (very, very good). Niko (*was* a great fit). They just needed a wing. Otto P. or Middleton over the summer should've put them top-3 in the conference.

I don't have much sympathy for dudes situation and I'm surprised he's not catching any heat for the way he/Rich Paul have handled stuff.

>Should have taken the trade. I ain't with the way Rich Paul
>is advising AD nor him succumbing to it, but NO bought this on
>themselves. They continually do the opposite of what a
>successful franchise should do.

  

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23. "Nah fam..."
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>AD is a generational talent who, in theory, should be able to
>compete with a core of Jrue (arguably a top-15 guy), Randle
>(very, very good). Niko (*was* a great fit). They just needed
>a wing. Otto P. or Middleton over the summer should've put
>them top-3 in the conference.

In the West? Maaaaaaaybe. Warriors still better. Rockets still better. OKC still better.

And low key, the Mavs, Jazz, Kings and possibly the Suns have more overall talent and could be just as good or better in 2 seasons. Lakers are gonna look to skyrocket this summer. Uphill battle IMO.

What they should have done is re-upped Cuz at the Max, given Rondo 2-3 more seasons and filled out the roster from there.

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10. "David Stern's available"
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Fri Feb-15-19 12:31 PM by bentagain

  

          

What a shit show

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14. "Damn demps lost. This dont really change the pels situation tho"
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They still got an amazing trade chip

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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26. "has any player ever sat out an entire year in NBA history?.."
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..not injury related.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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29. "Dell Demps traded Buddy Hield "
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30. "he make the all star team?"
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d'angelo did.

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33. "RE: he make the all star team?"
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>d'angelo did.

he's better than any guard on the Pelicans not named Jrue.

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34. "He traded Buddy Hield for who?"
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Yeah... you're playing yourself.

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35. "For somebody that plays for the Warriors now"
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39. "LOL @ the time it was considered a shrewd move"
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You give to get. Hield's value was high but they got an all-star center back. Not Demps' fault he got hurt, though he did subsequently mismanage the contract talks if you hear it from Cousins

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40. "when you give up assets to land a "star" then let that star walk..."
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for nothing its an L.

Now the reality is the team actually got better when Cousins was hurt and it wasn't probably a good idea not to give him a long term deal it wasn't a good look. Boogie was a major gamble that he lost.

Long term New Orleans probably would've been better off keeping Hield and whomever that first round pick turned out to be.

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42. "lol ol' rear-view mirror ass mf"
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43. "You don't think ownership looks at it like that? This recent AD trade..."
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wasn't the only reason Demps was fired

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