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Warren Coolidge
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"Kellen Winslow Jr. trippin...."


  

          

the hell this fool on..


http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/14/kellen-winslow-jr-arrested/

Kellen Winslow Jr.
Arrested for Kidnapping and Rape
... Faces Life In Prison

4:10 PM PT -- Officials say Winslow is being charged with 9 criminal charges including kidnapping with intent to commit rape, forcible rape, forcible sodomy, burglary, indecent exposure and more.

Here are the charges in total:
-- 2 counts of kidnapping with intent to commit rape
-- 2 counts of forcible rape
-- 1 count of forcible sodomy
-- 1 count of forcible oral copulation
-- 2 counts of residential burglary
-- 1 count of indecent exposure.

If convicted on all charges, he faces LIFE in prison.
Officials tell TMZ Sports ... Winslow was arrested by the Sheriff's Major Crimes Division at 1:05 PM on Thursday.
He's being booked into custody at the Vista Detention Facility -- a county jail in San Diego.
Officials say a search warrant has been executed for Kellen's home.

Ex-NFL star Kellen Winslow Jr. was arrested in San Diego -- again ... this according to the San Diego County District Attorney.
Details surrounding the arrest are unclear but law enforcement sources tell us Winslow is facing multiple criminal charges.
We don't know if this has anything to do with his arrest last week when he was accused of breaking into a home in a mobile home park in the San Diego area. For that incident, he was arrested for felony burglary.

But moments ago, the San Diego D.A. told TMZ Sports ... "A warrant was issued this morning for Kellen Winslow II’s arrest and he was taken into custody by San Diego Sheriff’s Deputies Thursday afternoon."

"Arraignment is anticipated Friday, June 15 ... Charges will be announced at that time."
We've reached out to Kellen's camp for comment -- so far, no word back.

34-year-old Winslow played in the NFL from 2004 to 2013 -- and made the Pro Bowl in 2007 as a tight end for the Cleveland Browns.

  

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I wonder how long it'll take for someone to claim this is all due to CTE
Jun 14th 2018
1
he was better off beating his meat in parking lots.
Jun 14th 2018
2
He was also arrested last week in on suspicion of B&E at a trailer park
Jun 14th 2018
3
thanks Stugotz
Jun 15th 2018
5
I think this is all part of the same case
Jun 15th 2018
6
Oh I thought he was rockin' a MAGA hat. Carry on then.
Jun 14th 2018
4
RE: Kellen Winslow Jr. trippin....
Jun 15th 2018
7
wait.. elderly women? WTF is up with TE's in this league?
Jun 15th 2018
9
I don't think "may become serial rapist" is a CTE symptom
Jun 15th 2018
11
he's still on that synthetic?
Jun 15th 2018
8
yeah..he's done....
Jun 15th 2018
10
wow this is one of the most bizarre ex-athlete stories I've ever heard
Jun 18th 2018
12
i dont think soldiers get down like this
Jun 18th 2018
13
he about to sit down for a minute...
Jun 10th 2019
14
apparently he's...always been off
Jun 13th 2019
15
Um, wow. That’s... a lot.
Jun 13th 2019
16
14 years...
Mar 03rd 2021
17
feels like he won't be 'better' in 14 years. dude's brain is broken
Mar 03rd 2021
18
so should he get life? death penalty?
Mar 03rd 2021
19
Escalated that pretty quickly, eh?
Mar 03rd 2021
21
so should he get life? death penalty?
Mar 03rd 2021
20
      not sure what the penalty should be tbh. I just don't think jail fixes ...
Mar 03rd 2021
22
           that's a different conversation about a very serious issue, I just...
Mar 03rd 2021
23
                cuz this is a post about Kellen Winslow Jr? And his brain is extra broke...
Mar 03rd 2021
24
                     cuz this is a post about Kellen Winslow Jr?
Mar 03rd 2021
25
                     just a sad situation all the way around
Mar 03rd 2021
28
I thought it would be more
Mar 03rd 2021
27
Shoulda got 41 years.
Mar 04th 2021
29
      how many years should he get?
Mar 04th 2021
30
           One way trip to outer space
Mar 04th 2021
31
           A lot
Mar 04th 2021
32
           RE: how many years should he get?
Mar 07th 2021
52
Anyone else pop in because we thought it was a Warren sighting?
Mar 03rd 2021
26
Lol at ThaTruth in here trying to get us to feel sorry for a serial rapi...
Mar 06th 2021
33
is that how you see it?
Mar 06th 2021
34
      Kellen Winslow’s father was an abusive piece of shit
Mar 06th 2021
35
           Well, he was conditioned to be that way.
Mar 06th 2021
36
                many football players have CTE and have grown up in difficult circumstan...
Mar 06th 2021
37
                     every situation is different I just pointed how with this situation some...
Mar 06th 2021
38
                          Exactly.
Mar 06th 2021
39
                               Winslow Jr went after women of all ages . Not just elderly
Mar 06th 2021
40
                               RE: Winslow Jr went after women of all ages . Not just elderly
Mar 06th 2021
41
                               I’m not a mental health expert . Maybe all stah ?is that’s why I ask...
Mar 06th 2021
43
                                    "I’m not a mental health expert" you could've stopped here
Mar 06th 2021
45
                                    So he’s not responsible for his own actions ? Got it .
Mar 06th 2021
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                                         "I’m not a mental health expert" you could've stopped here
Mar 06th 2021
48
                                              Go write a letter to Kellen Winslow , I’m sure he’d love to hear fro...
Mar 06th 2021
49
                                                   "I’m not a mental health expert" you could've stopped here
Mar 06th 2021
50
                                    There is a huge contrast between Winslow and Sharper.
Mar 06th 2021
46
                               He went after women between the ages 54-86
Mar 06th 2021
42
                                    That’s what he was found guilty of
Mar 06th 2021
44
                               It's okay to show compassion for people with mental illnesses
Mar 07th 2021
51
                                    It’s not about giving someone a pass.
Mar 07th 2021
53
                                         We agree on a key point
Mar 08th 2021
56
                                              ^^another example of why OKSports is the best messageboard^^
Mar 09th 2021
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dillinjah
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1. "I wonder how long it'll take for someone to claim this is all due to CTE"
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2. "he was better off beating his meat in parking lots."
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3. "He was also arrested last week in on suspicion of B&E at a trailer park"
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He told a woman he was looking for his red dog named Clifford.

He then said he was joking and looking at potentially buying a home in the trailer park for a friend.

  

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5. "thanks Stugotz"
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6. "I think this is all part of the same case"
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4. "Oh I thought he was rockin' a MAGA hat. Carry on then."
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7. "RE: Kellen Winslow Jr. trippin...."
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So…wait…he was serial raping elderly women???


CTE or nah?

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9. "wait.. elderly women? WTF is up with TE's in this league?"
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Fri Jun-15-18 03:11 PM by legsdiamond

          

cTE

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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11. "I don't think "may become serial rapist" is a CTE symptom"
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8. "he's still on that synthetic? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Warren Coolidge
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10. "yeah..he's done...."
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raping older and elderly women....

that target parking lot situation turns out was the sign of a major problem..

crazy...

  

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12. "wow this is one of the most bizarre ex-athlete stories I've ever heard"
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13. "i dont think soldiers get down like this"
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pimp game sweet, breakin ankles and feet
cuz these hoes break they toes til they job complete

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14. "he about to sit down for a minute..."
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but, they saying he got off light, considering.

https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1138221529496465410/photo/1

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15. "apparently he's...always been off"
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/06/13/kellen-winslow-jr-ii-crimes-rape-trial-homeless-woman-elderly

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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16. "Um, wow. That’s... a lot. "
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17. "14 years..."
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30997360/ex-nfl-player-kellen-winslow-ii-gets-14-years-prison-sentence-rapes-assaults

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18. "feels like he won't be 'better' in 14 years. dude's brain is broken"
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he's just wired wrong at this point.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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19. "so should he get life? death penalty?"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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21. "Escalated that pretty quickly, eh?"
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But a question: what's your expectation of what will happen to him after 14 years, or however long he actually serves, inside?

  

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20. "so should he get life? death penalty?"
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22. "not sure what the penalty should be tbh. I just don't think jail fixes ..."
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dude is a serial rapist who targeted particularly vulnerable women, and his wiring seems off. Hopefully he takes his 14 years, gets some help, and comes out a better person who doesn't rape women.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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23. "that's a different conversation about a very serious issue, I just..."
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wasn't sure why you chose to single out Kellen.

Some people have gotten more for similar crimes, some people have gotten a lot less.

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24. "cuz this is a post about Kellen Winslow Jr? And his brain is extra broke..."
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>wasn't sure why you chose to single out Kellen.

I was looking at the sentence he got, specific to his crimes, and how particularly that was gonna stop him from being a predator in 14 years. He's crimes show he's weirdly predatory, but also lacks any amount of self control... I'm just curious how he makes it back to society successfully after 14 years.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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25. "cuz this is a post about Kellen Winslow Jr? "
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>>wasn't sure why you chose to single out Kellen.'

lol

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28. "just a sad situation all the way around"
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27. "I thought it would be more"
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I hope he's able to make amends in some way.

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29. "Shoulda got 41 years."
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He’s a soldier . He’ll be ok in there

>https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30997360/ex-nfl-player-kellen-winslow-ii-gets-14-years-prison-sentence-rapes-assaults

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30. "how many years should he get?"
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https://www.the-sun.com/news/2251886/chad-wheeler-beat-girlfriend-move-hawaii-court-seattle-seahawks/

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>https://www.the-sun.com/news/2251886/chad-wheeler-beat-girlfriend-move-hawaii-court-seattle-seahawks/

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32. "A lot"
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In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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52. "RE: how many years should he get?"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2731026&mesg_id=2731026&listing_type=search#2731081

To pretend the race of the perpetrators AND the victims don't affect opinions on this is comical. If Winslow was raping homeless black women nobody would care.

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26. "Anyone else pop in because we thought it was a Warren sighting? "
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Anyone know what's up with him these days?

  

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33. "Lol at ThaTruth in here trying to get us to feel sorry for a serial rapi..."
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>the hell this fool on..
>
>
>http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/14/kellen-winslow-jr-arrested/
>
>Kellen Winslow Jr.
>Arrested for Kidnapping and Rape
>... Faces Life In Prison
>
>4:10 PM PT -- Officials say Winslow is being charged with 9
>criminal charges including kidnapping with intent to commit
>rape, forcible rape, forcible sodomy, burglary, indecent
>exposure and more.
>
>Here are the charges in total:
>-- 2 counts of kidnapping with intent to commit rape
>-- 2 counts of forcible rape
>-- 1 count of forcible sodomy
>-- 1 count of forcible oral copulation
>-- 2 counts of residential burglary
>-- 1 count of indecent exposure.
>
>If convicted on all charges, he faces LIFE in prison.
>Officials tell TMZ Sports ... Winslow was arrested by the
>Sheriff's Major Crimes Division at 1:05 PM on Thursday.
>He's being booked into custody at the Vista Detention Facility
>-- a county jail in San Diego.
>Officials say a search warrant has been executed for Kellen's
>home.
>
>Ex-NFL star Kellen Winslow Jr. was arrested in San Diego --
>again ... this according to the San Diego County District
>Attorney.
>Details surrounding the arrest are unclear but law enforcement
>sources tell us Winslow is facing multiple criminal charges.
>We don't know if this has anything to do with his arrest last
>week when he was accused of breaking into a home in a mobile
>home park in the San Diego area. For that incident, he was
>arrested for felony burglary.
>
>But moments ago, the San Diego D.A. told TMZ Sports ... "A
>warrant was issued this morning for Kellen Winslow II’s
>arrest and he was taken into custody by San Diego Sheriff’s
>Deputies Thursday afternoon."
>
>"Arraignment is anticipated Friday, June 15 ... Charges will
>be announced at that time."
>We've reached out to Kellen's camp for comment -- so far, no
>word back.
>
>34-year-old Winslow played in the NFL from 2004 to 2013 -- and
>made the Pro Bowl in 2007 as a tight end for the Cleveland
>Browns.
>
>

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34. "is that how you see it?"
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35. "Kellen Winslow’s father was an abusive piece of shit "
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Kellen Winslow Jr didn’t fall far from the tree

It seems like you’re feigning more concern for his mild prison sentence than the numerous women he raped

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36. "Well, he was conditioned to be that way."
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It’s abuse begetting abuse.

It’s not about having sympathy or empathy. It’s about understanding
that there are different states of mental illness, and some are brought
on by way of nature or nurture.

Plus couple that with the fact that he was a football player, which can cause
damage to the brain, intensifying his mental condition.

This isn’t something that just happened. He has been this way since he was an
adolescent, and became worse as he aged.

We are seeing a pattern here with mainly football players raping, killing and abusing
women. We see it with other athletes, but not on the same level as football players.

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37. "many football players have CTE and have grown up in difficult circumstan..."
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They didn’t become serial rapists.






>It’s abuse begetting abuse.
>
>It’s not about having sympathy or empathy. It’s about
>understanding
>that there are different states of mental illness, and some
>are brought
>on by way of nature or nurture.
>
>Plus couple that with the fact that he was a football player,
>which can cause
>damage to the brain, intensifying his mental condition.
>
>This isn’t something that just happened. He has been this
>way since he was an
>adolescent, and became worse as he aged.
>
>We are seeing a pattern here with mainly football players
>raping, killing and abusing
>women. We see it with other athletes, but not on the same
>level as football players.
>
>

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38. "every situation is different I just pointed how with this situation some..."
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people are quick to say "lock him up and throw away the key" while other current situations are basically ignored and hardly spoken about

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39. "Exactly. "
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Every person doesn’t fit in that group.

Example, Darren Sharper. He was date raping women out of power.
He didn’t have a mental illness, nor was he abused. Plus he was able
to go out with these women, so he would have eventually slept with them.
He just wanted to rape women because he could.

That’s a person who belongs in prison for life.

Kellen Winslow has a mental disorder. Teammates said all
he did was play video games and watch porn, and he developed
a fetish which tied into his already unstable mind state. He went after
senior women as old as 86 years old! Sounds like mother issues
to me.





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40. "Winslow Jr went after women of all ages . Not just elderly "
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Winslow Sr beat and abused his wife (Winslow’s mother )before divorcing her

Winslow Sr was removed from court numerous times for threatening prosecutors and random outbursts.

Would you blame that on his CTE? Or just him being an asshole ?

>Every person doesn’t fit in that group.
>
>Example, Darren Sharper. He was date raping women out of
>power.
>He didn’t have a mental illness, nor was he abused. Plus he
>was able
>to go out with these women, so he would have eventually slept
>with them.
>He just wanted to rape women because he could.
>
>That’s a person who belongs in prison for life.
>
>Kellen Winslow has a mental disorder. Teammates said all
>he did was play video games and watch porn, and he developed
>a fetish which tied into his already unstable mind state. He
>went after
>senior women as old as 86 years old! Sounds like mother
>issues
>to me.

Darren Sharper also has a mental disorder . They’re both psychos and should be kept away from society for the remainder of their years , either in a prison or a psych ward .

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41. "RE: Winslow Jr went after women of all ages . Not just elderly "
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>Would you blame that on his CTE? Or just him being an asshole
>?

have you examined his brain? are you qualified to say either way?

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43. "I’m not a mental health expert . Maybe all stah ?is that’s why I ask..."
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I’m of the belief that Kellen Winslow Jr and Darren Sharper knew what they were doing is wrong , and that they would be shielded from punishment because they’re ex NFL stars and people would be afraid to come forward.



I’m just wondering where personal responsibility comes into play for you. Or if at all ?




>
>>Would you blame that on his CTE? Or just him being an
>asshole
>>?
>
>have you examined his brain? are you qualified to say either
>way?
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45. ""I’m not a mental health expert" you could've stopped here"
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47. "So he’s not responsible for his own actions ? Got it . "
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Thanks for confirming what I was thinking .

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49. "Go write a letter to Kellen Winslow , I’m sure he’d love to hear fro..."
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50. ""I’m not a mental health expert" you could've stopped here"
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46. "There is a huge contrast between Winslow and Sharper."
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So they don’t belong in the same boat. Sharper knew what he was
doing was wrong, and had no history of abuse or mental illness.
He made calculated efforts to render women unconscious so that
he could rape them.

Winslow wasn’t right since day one. This is the same guy who said on
national TV that he was a soldier and that he was invincible. This is the same
guy whose teammates begged coaches to not assign them the same hotel
room with, because he masturbated out in the open.

This guy had unchecked social issues since day one, and should have been under
the watchful eye of a mental doctor. He was clearly out there ,and his understanding
of right and wrong was/is obviously distorted.

And not only that, his family and friends played a role in cuddling his issues. For there
to be personal responsibility, there needs to be an awareness of what responsibility is,
and awareness that one has a problem. He had and has none of that. He showed not
one single emotion in court, and relatives and friends came everyday to support him.
He probably saw it as consensual.

If someone has been programmed to be a certain way for his entire life, there not
going to know or realize anything else. He is responsible because he did those crimes,
but he isn’t solely responsible because of what he was exposed to and how his mind
was conditioned.

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42. "He went after women between the ages 54-86"
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That was the range.

He clearly has a sickness and must be addressed.

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44. "That’s what he was found guilty of "
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But younger woman stepped forward (I don’t think he was found guilty of that sexual assault though)

>That was the range.
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>He clearly has a sickness and must be addressed.

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51. "It's okay to show compassion for people with mental illnesses"
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It does seem cruel to 'punish' someone who was out of control.

I think the criminal justice system is flawed and does a poor job realizing its intention of providing safe living conditions to prevent crime from happening and holding violators accountable when laws are broken. The current conditions within prisons and jails are inhumane. And the great lengths the system goes to essentially throw people away is alarming and embarrassing. Especially given many violators aren't given a real chance of succeeding in the first place.

But bad behavior isn't justified under any circumstance, mental health condition or not.

There can't be a secure society without social boundaries. Winslow violated one and he should have his liberties withheld to allow him to sit with what he did for a very long time.

Someone having a mental health condition does not excuse or justify bad behavior. It explains it, gives a context for it. Maybe gives people a way to prevent the conditions for the wrongdoing to happen in the future.

The real question is why should Winslow be given a pass when his victims weren't? The effects of sexual trauma and assault are all-encompassing. His victims may heal, but they will never be the same. The hell Winslow lived with was passed onto MULTIPLE women. That can't be excused or tolerated.

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53. "It’s not about giving someone a pass. "
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It’s about understanding what type of retribution is needed, and there
are situations where being sentenced to prison or jail is not the
correct form or retribution. And in Winslow’s case it isn’t.

He should be sentenced to a mental institution or mental facility, where
he can receive proper treatment to combat his mental illness.
He can serve his time under the care of a mental doctors. The focal point
of punishment is to rehabilitate a human being in order for them to exist in
society, where they are not a threat to others or to themselves.

For years, his abnormal/strange behavior went unchecked by his family,
friends and employers, and it ballooned into the perverted, abusive person
that he is now. Since he was an excellent football player and making money
for others, his illness was glossed over as weirdness or just being an odd
person. Also, it’s possible that the violent nature of the sport contributed to
his behavior, as well as growing up in an abusive household.

Schizophrenia, bipolar, ptsd, personality disorders, etc, are all forms of a mental
imbalance, that leads to abnormal, and often violent behavior. That is a medical
condition that needs to be treated, and simply throwing someone in jail does not
treat the condition, which is why individuals with mental conditions who are
released from prison are often repeat offenders.








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56. "We agree on a key point"
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I see now that you're just suggesting that he get treated. And on that we agree.

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57. "^^another example of why OKSports is the best messageboard^^"
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..this entire exchange is noteworthy.

*Archived*


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