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ThaTruth
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"How did 12 teams pass on Donovan Mitchell?"


          

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I don't even remember him at Louisville
Apr 23rd 2018
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pistons took stanley johnson & luke kennard over devin booker & mitchell
Apr 24th 2018
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What makes it EXTRA bad is that they had private workouts for both,
Apr 24th 2018
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their record with Reggie Jackson on the floor is very good
Apr 24th 2018
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The Knicks & Hornets probably fucked up the most,
Apr 24th 2018
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RE: The Knicks & Hornets probably fucked up the most,
Apr 24th 2018
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Kennard is good tho.
Apr 24th 2018
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they'll see. Luke will be 50-40-90 at least one season in his career
Apr 24th 2018
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on four shots per game
Apr 24th 2018
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      counts just the same.
Apr 24th 2018
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           last month of the season he took dbl digit shots 8 times
Apr 24th 2018
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                wait when did they decide to bring him back for 18-19?
Apr 24th 2018
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                he has a year left on his current deal.
Apr 24th 2018
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                stanley had his chances
Apr 24th 2018
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lolz
Apr 24th 2018
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He averaged 12/4/2.5 on 47/45/85 shooting in March and April.
Apr 24th 2018
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if donovan mitchell didnt exist Piston fans would be ecstatic
Apr 24th 2018
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He ain't DONNIE MITCHELL GOOD! LOL
Apr 24th 2018
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if the hornets drafted mitchell then clifford would've pinned him to the...
Apr 24th 2018
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^^^^
Apr 24th 2018
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Chill they ain't fit the triangle *rolls eyes*
Apr 24th 2018
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cmon man. the pistons took luke kennard.
Apr 24th 2018
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      No idea how you work out him & Mitchell and pick Kennard, LOL.
Apr 24th 2018
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He was a 6'2 shooting guard who couldn't shoot.
Apr 24th 2018
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Exactly.
Apr 24th 2018
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he definitely seems to play bigger than his size, I guess that's partly....
Apr 24th 2018
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      LOL @ Lucky.
Apr 24th 2018
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He went *up* the board, not down, man
Apr 24th 2018
6
Draymond went where he should have
Apr 24th 2018
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      agreed.
Apr 24th 2018
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      As far as a collegian he had a better career than Mitchell, cmon
Apr 24th 2018
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           True.
Apr 24th 2018
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                They also both suffered from the dreaded "undersized label"
Apr 25th 2018
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their scouts watch the same amount of games as you do.
Apr 24th 2018
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It looked like a simple two-hander, but the rim keeps on shaking.
Apr 24th 2018
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lol
Apr 25th 2018
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Technically 13 teams passed on him
Apr 24th 2018
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I'm surprised he went that high, really nothing about him in college
Apr 24th 2018
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Nobody saw this coming....
Apr 24th 2018
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Lol, the 20/20 hot trash takes are always fun
Apr 24th 2018
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9/10s of uppages on this board are precisely this, lol.
Aug 24th 2020
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the funniest part is the knicks now having Dennis Smith Jr.
Aug 24th 2020
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The thing is with young players you just don’t know and it’s funny.....
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?
Aug 24th 2020
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Hornets head coach wanted to draft him and Jordan overruled him
Aug 24th 2020
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I will take my L
Aug 24th 2020
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on paper: super athletic undersized scoring guard with not a lot of expe...
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BrooklynWHAT
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1. "I don't even remember him at Louisville"
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And UNC played them once or twice a year when he was there.

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2. "pistons took stanley johnson & luke kennard over devin booker & mitchell"
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and svg has only made the playoffs once in his 4 years.

i really dont get the hype

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3. "What makes it EXTRA bad is that they had private workouts for both,"
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ain't no way Kennard's workout was better than Mitchell's...nope


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11. "their record with Reggie Jackson on the floor is very good"
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like 60% over the last 3 years

year 1 was a wash, the last 2 have been injury filled

im not advocating an extension, but lets see how his last year goes. if they stay healthy, they'll win.

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4. "The Knicks & Hornets probably fucked up the most,"
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The Knicks passed up on Dennis Smith Jr. AND Donovan Mitchell LOL.

The Hornets drafted MALIK MONK over Donovan Mitchell, and as previously mentioned The Pisstons chose some pedestrian white boy from Duke over Donovan.



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8. "RE: The Knicks & Hornets probably fucked up the most,"
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>The Knicks passed up on Dennis Smith Jr. AND Donovan Mitchell
>LOL.

I let out a nice, deep and painful laugh watching highlights from last night's game. I saw a graphic stat on ESPN that he tied a record for getting 100+ points in his first four games as a rookie; I think Jordan was the only other player to do that.

A nice, deep and painful laugh indeed as a Knicks fan.

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10. "Kennard is good tho."
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13. "they'll see. Luke will be 50-40-90 at least one season in his career"
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18. "on four shots per game"
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19. "counts just the same. "
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21. "last month of the season he took dbl digit shots 8 times"
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and averaged 9 shots per game

in 6 of those 8 games he shot 50% or higher and for the month shot 47/42/86

AND maintained a >2:1 A:TO

I hate that SVG is gonna be coaching for his job this year. Bullock/Stanley/Kennard need to be playing 32 mpg each between the 2 wing spots, but coaching hot seats and "reliable" vets go together like PB&J

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22. "wait when did they decide to bring him back for 18-19?"
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and it's not like stan needs an excuse to bury young guys and play trash vets.

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27. "he has a year left on his current deal."
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which he had better be allowed to play out.

give him a chance with a top 9 of Reggie, Dre, Blake, Bullock, Kennard, Stanley, Ish, Tolliver, Moreland

they have been too good with Reggie on the floor to abort this imo. they were 19-14 when Reggie got hurt; if they get back to that, then maybe extension talk. if they are under .500 then just can him.

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25. "stanley had his chances"
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15. "lolz"
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26. "He averaged 12/4/2.5 on 47/45/85 shooting in March and April. "
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So of course he's good. Second-best three-point shooting rookie this season behind Tatum-- and honestly wouldn't surprise me if he ends up the best three-point shooter in the class overall longterm.

But draft revisionists are gonna do what they do: ignore what happened in college entirely, ignore why Kennard wasn't a bad pick at all, and ignore how well the lesser player is doing because the player drafted below happens to be doing much better. It's like saying "why did the Nets take Jarrett Allen over Kyle Kuzma????" Just because Kuzma had a really great rookie year doesn't mean that Allen didn't have a good one himself-- and doesn't mean that Allen wasn't the right pick there.

If you look back at rookie seasons for players picked 12th overall over the last, say, twenty years, I'd be really surprised if Kennard didn't have a Top 5 season of that group. Might even be Top 3-- only Saric and Thaddeus Young strike me as obvious choices to be above him. This rookie class just had an exceptionally deep group of terrific rookie seasons because of some very surprising first-year results from guys like Mitchell, Kuzma, Bogdanovic, and Dillon Brooks.

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28. "if donovan mitchell didnt exist Piston fans would be ecstatic"
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its a pick outside of the top 10...who gives a shit what the next guy does?

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33. "He ain't DONNIE MITCHELL GOOD! LOL "
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12. "if the hornets drafted mitchell then clifford would've pinned him to the..."
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clifford doesnt like rookies.

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23. "^^^^"
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14. "Chill they ain't fit the triangle *rolls eyes*"
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>The Knicks passed up on Dennis Smith Jr. AND Donovan Mitchell LOL.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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17. "cmon man. the pistons took luke kennard."
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34. "No idea how you work out him & Mitchell and pick Kennard, LOL. "
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5. "He was a 6'2 shooting guard who couldn't shoot."
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His shot selection was awful in college-- only shot 33% from 3 and under 40% overall against Tier A competition his sophomore year, not to mention all of the ill-advised contested mid-rangers he'd clunk in iso-- and he's undersized for conventional NBA shooting guard wisdom. Elite athlete, elite defender... but seemed more like a scrappy guard off the bench or the kind of guy who stuffs stats on a bad team more than a guy who stars for a playoff team.

Before the combine, he was expected to go in the 20s. (Source, among others: https://web.archive.org/web/20170401024051/http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/) The draft comparisons I saw at the time were, for best case scenarios, names like Avery Bradley and Eric Bledsoe-- both of whom were picked in the late teens out of college IIRC. And both of them had better college seasons than Mitchell's best.

It's really not that surprising considering what he did in college that he got picked where he did. What *is* surprising is how far he's come in such a short period of time.

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9. "Exactly."
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Just like calling for sure top 5 picks busts. NO. They were the pick at the time and ended up sucking. Guys like Mitchell and Draymond got picked where the they should have and got in the league with drive and a chip on their shoulder and out performed their draft stock and made a bunch of teams regret passing on them and a bunch of interneters revising history.

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16. "he definitely seems to play bigger than his size, I guess that's partly...."
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due to the 6-10 wingspan, plus he's just a physical guy.

I guess like Draymond he just got lucky and landed in the right situation where he had the opportunity to shine.

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35. "LOL @ Lucky. "
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6. "He went *up* the board, not down, man"
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In a world where Draymond Green went 35th overall, I wouldn't call this too much of a head-scratcher.

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7. "Draymond went where he should have"
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24. "agreed. "
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31. "As far as a collegian he had a better career than Mitchell, cmon"
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39. "They also both suffered from the dreaded "undersized label""
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But Green played big at least, I really didn't have much indication that Mitchell could do what he is doing until I actually saw him in the pros.

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20. "their scouts watch the same amount of games as you do."
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32. "It looked like a simple two-hander, but the rim keeps on shaking."
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40. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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29. "Technically 13 teams passed on him "
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30. "I'm surprised he went that high, really nothing about him in college "
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screamed lottery pick.

  

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37. "Nobody saw this coming...."
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and if they say they did they're lying..

this happens sometimes...

nobody really messed up passing on him because he wasn't showing he would ball out to this level... some guys just bubble when they hit the pros... Kuzma is another one like that...

  

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44. "9/10s of uppages on this board are precisely this, lol."
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45. "the funniest part is the knicks now having Dennis Smith Jr."
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46. "The thing is with young players you just don’t know and it’s funny....."
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when you have self-anointed experts with definitive takes on guys that are barely legal drinking age or even younger

  

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41. "?"
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42. "Hornets head coach wanted to draft him and Jordan overruled him"
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well, MJ and “management” wanted Monk over Mitchell.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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43. "I will take my L"
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had in the list of scrubby ass gunners


I've been wrong lately

About Trae too

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47. "on paper: super athletic undersized scoring guard with not a lot of expe..."
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usually doesn't work out!


dude is the exception, man

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