Monies:
****PAYMENT IS DUE IMMEDIATELY****
Total due currently for those who haven't paid: $76
You have until 11:59pm on February 28th to pay without further penalty.
paypal for payment: emystery@yahoo.com or paypal.me/auraginboi

Missing payment:
-Theo ($4 balance...you were 2 days late)
-Shawn (not paying)
-Smerf (Kawhi Leonard)

****Late payment penalty schedule ***
Missed Oct deadline date = $4
No payment by Nov 30th = $4
No payment by Dec 31st = $4
No payment by Jan 31st = $4
No payment by Feb 28/29th = $4
No payment by Mar 31st = $4
No payment until the entire season is over = $25 total penalty

This would make the fee $85 at seasons end ($60 entry plus $25 penalty).

Gonna post this every rankings until everyone who is paying has paid.

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Rankings-
1) Ghostown DJs (Shawndme7) (40-13), 304.1, (LR=1) - Latest win streak means I can go the whole season without ranking a rookie #1. Good job Shawn! Now lose in the second round pronto.

2) Gonzo's Ghoulies (cgonz00cc)(40-13), 301.0, (2) - Impressive rookie regular season debut. 300+ average has only been accomplished once in this league (by yours truly) so a masterful job and commendation is in effect. But...don't mean a thing without that ring.

3) Washington DC Brunchers (basa20003) (36-17), 297.1, (3) - I've seen pics of Basa online (no-stalk-o)...so I made a voodoo doll that looks like him and I'm going to hex him to make tons of mistakes in his first round match up...hehehe.

4) Tribeca HiBrows (ernest +1) (36-17), 283.5, (4) - The LeBron James of Survivor. I think it's time for realignment lol

5) Virgin Island Presidents (theothursdays) (31-22), 288.1, (5) - Theo has been under the radar all season after a rocky start. I would LMAO if he actually snuck in and won it all.

6) Coney Island Bad Boys VIII (cenario) (28-25), 281.8, (7) - Rondo, Rondo, Rondo, Rondo, Rondo...if he don't ball C gonna lose to Gonzo (or Shawn or Theo).

7) Oakland Cardpullers (MrHood75) (28-25), 274.8, (6) - Man, the Black conference is shaping up to be very uninteresting. I can't even manufacture story lines. Hoods had a solid season but it all feels like they are all lambs to Ern's slaughter.

8) Stanley Forms a Wall (JBoogs) (27-26), 268.8, (8) - See Oakland.

9) Englewood GunViolence (theinfamousdvs) (26-27), 271.0, (9) - See Oakland...BUT, Englewood has the goods to scare some folx. WHY didn't I think LaVine would come back ballin'? SMH

10)Northeast DC (magilla) (30-23), 260.5, (10) - Luckiest man alive and should be playing the stock market and lottery right today. Might even luck into a conference finals bid...and the buck will stop there.

11)Chino Hills Big Ballers (ryanm) (19-34), 247.5, (14) - Still trying though practically eliminated from the playoffs. Heart of a former champ.

12)Chi.ESL Markrakanens (auragin_boi) (22-31), 271.4, (11) - L steak going, Boogie down (BRONX). Without a miracle (and there's a few hopefuls on my roster) my season ends at the first round.

13)L.A. Oatmeal Faces (TheRealBillyOcean) (17-36), 246.2, (13) - Better luck next year (lol and yes, I know RBO is making the playoffs)

14)Ozarks GOBs (ceej) (19-34), 253.2, (12) - Ceej's team committed suicide a month ago. Better luck next year.

15)Waiters Isle Rappity Raps (DJR3) (13-40), 231.1, (15) - BLNY (don't even warrant the full sentence)

16)Restown Smerf City Slamz (Merf2384) (12-41), 221.3, (16) - BLNY (and pay the damn fee already! lol)

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Playoff predictions:
As has been the case for the past 2-3 seasons, my predictions are based on the playoff compare tool: https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087

I will assume seedings based on current record and assumption of where each team finally lands.

With that said:
Black Conference-
Seeds
1) Tribeca (Ern)
2) NE DC (Magilla)
3) Oakland (Hood)
4) Englewood (DVS)
5) Stanley (Boogs)
6) LA (RBO)


First Round
6) LA (RBO) vs 3) Oakland (Hood)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=13&team2=16
Prediction: 3-2 Oakland in a series much closer than expected

5) Stanley (Boogs) vs 4) Englewood (DVS)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=2&team2=15
Prediction: 3-1 Englewooooooooood

Second Round
4) Englewood (DVS) vs 1) Tribeca (Ern)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=15&team2=14
Prediction: UPSET CITY BABY!!! 3-2 Englewooooooooooooood

3) Oakland (Hood) vs 2) NE DC (Magilla)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=16&team2=7
Prediction: 3-2 NE DC

Conference final
4) Englewood (DVS) vs 2) NE DC (Magilla)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=15&team2=7
Prediction: 3-2 Englewooooooooooooooood DVS makes it to the finals as a ROOKIE!

White Conference-
Seeds
1) Ghoulies (Gonzo)
2) Ghostown (Shawn)
3) DC (Basa)
4) VI (Theo)
5) Coney Isle (Dep Commish)
6) ChiESL (Commish)

The #1 seed will depend on Westbrook playing tomorrow against Clev. On top of that, even if he plays, Shawn might still lose the last game of the season to Theo while Gonzo is likely winning out. Shawn will lose best record by 1 game and if not careful with his scores over the last 5 games, might be at risk of losing highest avg also (which are both payable achievements to Gonzo should he win them, actually, he'll get them anyway as Shawn's ineligible to collect).

First Round
6) ChiESL (Commish) vs 3) DC (Basa)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=3&team2=6
Prediction: 3-1 DC

5) Coney Isle (Dep Commish) vs 4) VI (Theo)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=5&team2=10
Prediction: 3-2 VI - Jokic, Oladipo and Ben Simmons ultimately prove to be too much.

Second Round
4) VI (Theo) vs 1) Ghoulies (Gonzo)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=10&team2=1
Prediction: 3-1 VI

3) DC (Basa) vs 2) Ghostown (Shawn)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=6&team2=4
Prediction: 3-1 Ghostown

Conference Final
4) VI (Theo) vs 2) Ghostown (Shawn)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=10&team2=4
Prediction: 3-1 Ghostown

Your 2017-2018 OKP Survivor League Predicted FInals:
4) Englewood (DVS) vs 2) Ghostown (Shawn)
https://basketball.sports.ws/league/playoff_compare.x?league=180087&team1=15&team2=4
Prediction: 3-1 Ghostown

Your Predicted 2017/2018 OKP Survivor League Champions:

The Ghostown DJ's (Shawn)


Edit: And if this should happen, all the pot winnings would go to DVS as there is no clear cut runner up given the finals. LOL

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conference. lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

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But then we should put in a rule in theoff-season stating that if you play, you have to pay.

I'm not trying to be a bill collector (LABeat last season, Smerf this season). There has to be SOME payment at the start of the season and a monthly payment plan to cover the whole thing by the end of Feb.

Given Shawn's situation, I let it fly this year, plus we needed the body. We can start next seasons GM hunt earlier and have a few on deck in case someone can't return to avoid the desperation.

But having a vacant pot rollover every year...smh. Nah.

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'deserve'.

Either this year's runner up or next year's winner.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

someone is still declared a winner. If you dont pocket it, who cares. if you pocket it, $$$$$$$



im still trying to figure out what to do with Sabonis/Beas

Monroe/Birch/ and kornet though

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lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

the only fair result of shawn winning from a gambling perspective is everybody gets their money back

the people who paid gambled (not necessarily "competed") against only each other and pushed in that scenario

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Are we just hoping Shawn doesnt win?

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the people who have paid have entered $60 side bets with each other against the pot, betting on themselves to win the league. if none of us win, we all push and no one gets paid. then we all get our money back.

the competition and our "side bet" are basically 2 separate things if there is even 1 person who isnt paying.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

$60 Highest Avg, $60 best record
$240 for the runner up
$600 for the winner

^^^These will be a little different as Shawn didn't pay, a few people paid late and Smerf may or may not pay. So the runner up would get the same type of % of the actual pot (like 28%) and the rest goes to the winner.

The big pot, if won by Shawn, might be in question but the runner up still wins $$$. And if Shawn doesn't finish with best record, there's $$$ to be had. He likely has highest avg on lock unless you put up 350+ for the last 5 games and he's sub 300.

So it's not just the grand pot.

My thought is, the next highest for each of these should get the $$$, whoever has second best record if he has the best, whoever has second highest avg if he has the highest. In both cases, you'd get the money right today. LOL @ you talking yourself out of cash.

And I think if Shawn wins, whoever he beats should get the whole pot $840. It's basically saying it's an exhibition and as that team was the only one to make it legitimately, they deserve the prize.

But as Commish, I'm good with whatever the league wants to do.

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or send the money to WS so we can get some sort of upgrade for our league or priority customer service lolz.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>or send the money to WS so we can get some sort of upgrade
>for our league or priority customer service lolz.

But yea, I always assumed everything would just slide down to the next in line.

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If Shawn wins, can't reward someone who got 2nd place to take home the whole pot.

Even if Shawn loses the finals, seems like the 2nd place money should be split by the teams who lost in the Conference Finals or something.

I'd even rather give it to AB for running this.

Rolling it over to next year does allow Shawn the chance to actually claim it, but is pretty anti-climactic.

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but that isnt the problem

and now youre kinda talking about a scenario where the weaker conference champion has an inside track to the pot. shawn beats Ba or me in 6 games where both avg 300+ and then he blows out out someone from the other bracket and that guy gets paid?

cmon now

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

shawn
>beats Ba or me in 6 games where both avg 300+

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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Runner up has always gotten paid since we started a payout. The team the champ beat in their conference final might be better than the team they beat in the final but we don't arbitrarily reassign the cash then.

You beat who's in front of you. Happens one conference was stronger this year. Hell, the reigning champ is from the OTHER conference so it's not like anything is a given.

You don't want the 'what if' scenario of Shawn winning then don't hold injured players on your roster too long and stay pressed until the end...and you do it yourself.

Otherwise, we've got to have a provision. A refund is just like saying "we all played for free this year"...and we didn't.

Also rook...FYI, all 4 rounds of our playoffs are best of 5.


>but that isnt the problem
>
>and now youre kinda talking about a scenario where the weaker
>conference champion has an inside track to the pot. shawn
>beats Ba or me in 6 games where both avg 300+ and then he
>blows out out someone from the other bracket and that guy gets
>paid?
>
>cmon now
>
>

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take his ball and go home off this and a key injury lol

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

and go with the flow.

Then if his team gets healthy while he gets that 1st round bye, he has a good shot at the whole enchilada.

Rookies...talking themselves in circles since forever.

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i understand giving the runner-up the regular season money. its an aggregate and everyone had the same opportunities to score points all year.

but im just honestly not seeing another logical, mathematical, and inherently valid way to award tournament money when one guy has no skin in the game. tilting it toward being in an easier conference is not the answer. it raises everyones probability on that side of the bracket, even assuming random distribution. thats inherently not a fair bet. shawn has gambled, he knows this.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

>i understand giving the runner-up the regular season money.
>its an aggregate and everyone had the same opportunities to
>score points all year.

Word.

>but im just honestly not seeing another logical, mathematical,
>and inherently valid way to award tournament money when one
>guy has no skin in the game. tilting it toward being in an
>easier conference is not the answer. it raises everyones
>probability on that side of the bracket, even assuming random
>distribution. thats inherently not a fair bet. shawn has
>gambled, he knows this.

Well, if we actually had a way to do a '3rd place' between the conference finals losers, I guess we could go with that and they could get the runner up pot. Technically, I 'could' rig the site to get boxscores maybe (sometimes it works, sometimes it won't calculate it) to see who would win. And the GM's would have to stay active through the finals but this seems a lot more work than just letting whomever makes it to the finals decide.

What you see as a tilt, is what I see as luck of the draw. If Shawn had paid or someone else played in his spot and paid, you'd still have the same obstacle and if you lost to him, would still be a better team than most in the Black Conference but you wouldn't get no cash. Only difference here is Shawn can't get any money so whomever makes it there opposite him gets the whole pot.

Beat who's in front of you and this won't be an issue. Ultimately, you're going to have to do better than "we should all get a refund" though.

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>What you see as a tilt, is what I see as luck of the draw. If
>Shawn had paid or someone else played in his spot and paid,
>you'd still have the same obstacle

right, but as is, half the league doesnt have that obstacle because they wouldnt have to beat him no matter what happens.

>Beat who's in front of you and this won't be an issue.
>Ultimately, you're going to have to do better than "we should
>all get a refund" though.

lol this isnt a personal crusade. im just trying to find a solution

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

if thatll make you feel better

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Charity of 2nd place guys choice lol


Or we all vote collectively and send it to a charity make it even more convuluted

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

Problem solved.

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

"Let's give it to the Commish who's been our Rock for over 10yrs, deservedly" Fund.

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Take out a damn home equity LOc and ball out

I’m almost 40 and still renting with no home ownership in sight.

Fuck NYC

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

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