Pistons get: Blake, Brice, Willie Reed
Clips get: Tobias, Avery, Boban a 1st and 2nd


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That’s actually a big haul for him

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That door. And a couple others.

Otherwise, it’s going to be a looooong stretch.


Everyone was itching for them to blow it up...
word?


Like I get they never saw the conference finals,
but not sure years in the lottery is worth the
potential that you climb that hill higher this time.

Especially since history says they probably won’t.

I mean, the clippers were actually respectable.


Probably should have enjoyed that while it lasted.

All the folks who yelled blow it up... now what?

You guys got your own problem and what they are doing is essentially a carbon copy of the Lakers' "sell it off and bank on UFAs/a super team." This was not a bad trade.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

And now they are both pursuing the same plan so ...

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

lol @ a Sixers fan sticking up for the Clippers.. I guess that makes sense when you think about it...


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DJ was already gone this summer.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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It's a net cap space gain this year and significant cap space gain after next year. In the meantime, they might get some assets back for Boban and Tobias next year as well.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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hope they can get a sign-and-trade this summer?

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Both will be expiring which make them attractive...and they continue to gain more assets as they rebuild.

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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They pick up two picks here and will get junk contracts and picks for those guys.

The idea here is to tear down for a super team, I think. DJ and Lou Williams will get moved also.

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Assuming LA can resign Bradley. I really like Tobias, and he's three years younger than Blake, so him, Bradley, and two picks, one a first rounder, for Blake... is a pretty good haul tbh. Likely the first of multiple moves, all of which will likely look to include picks and/or young talent. Not sure what they could get for DJ considering he's expiring IIRC, but at this point, cut your losses, tank hard, aim for a Top 5/6 pick, and see where you are in terms of young talent next season. Depending on what they think of AB and Tobias, either resign or pocket the money to go after the next big free agent.

Pistons moved a guy they wanted out and a guy who might not've resigned after next season for Blake Griffin who still has a couple good years left to play alongside Drummond with Reggie Jackson running point. Considering the Pistons have Kennard, Johnson, and Ellenson to continue to develop/fill in additional minutes, that's a decent core in the East imo. Still not an ECF team... but maybe if they can ditch Galloway and/or Leuer they can have the money to pursue one more FA?

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with the roster shakeup now, hes absolutlely useless, but i wasnt desperate for them to move him

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DJ, Austin Rivers, Teodosic, Wesley Johnson

and obviously Lou Wills is the 6th man. but Reggie Bullock is our 6th man and hes still better than 3 of those starters

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thats a huge part of WHY they were sliding

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you brought up the record like it was a trump card, yet were too silly to think about the fact that Bradley is -7.7 per game over that stretch, while Kennard is +2.5 OR that Tobias is -6.9 and Stanley is +2.0 (he only played 6 of those games because of an injury)

dumbass

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>you brought up the record like it was a trump card, yet were
>too silly to think about the fact that Bradley is -7.7 per
>game over that stretch, while Kennard is +2.5 OR that Tobias
>is -6.9 and Stanley is +2.0 (he only played 6 of those games
>because of an injury)
>
>dumbass

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Avery and Toboas own those losses. watching it would really help here but I know thats not your thing so i tried to give it to you in your normal box score language.

dont know what else to tell you other than to catch up

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Stanley, 3 games since the trade: 18/7/3

Rwggie Bullock, 3 games since the trade: 15/3/1 on 53/54 shooting

3 wins, including Stanley bossing up on Bron in a win without Blake. SIX double digit scorers in each game.

watch a game bro, and tell me Avery and Tobias werent part of the problem.

foh

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I made it my New Year's Resolution not to engage people, here or on Twitter, that I know aren't engaging in earnest. I'm doing decently so far. Some people won't ever stop fighting or deflecting or making statements without watching games. So those people aren't really worth the time it takes to engage with them, imo. I've wasted enough of my life trying to force Ls into the hands of those who simply refuse to acknowledge reality.

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im both petty and experiencing a high rate of return on basketball fandom

being able to type all that out was its own reward. twisting a knife into someone's credibility is just butterscotch sauce.

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value then no you can’t.

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or are you too DK'd to even think about it?

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Drummond & DJ are a wash.
Blake > Tobias
Gallo > Stanley
Bradley > Whatever the Pistons got (Kennard?)
Austin & Reggie are a wash
Lou Will > Pistons 6th man

Sooooooo nah

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>Drummond & DJ are a wash.

lol no. not even close.

>Blake > Tobias

blake cant be his own teammate. i specifically left out all players involved in the trade, because ik comparing the groups of leftovers.

>Gallo > Stanley

uh, based on what? Gallo is shooting 34/24, and isnt half the defender Stanley is, so?

>Bradley > Whatever the Pistons got (Kennard?)

Blake wasnt teammates with Bradley before, still isnt. the name you are looking for here is Tyrone Wallace or Milos Teodosic or Wesley Johnson. again, im comparing holdovers.

>Austin & Reggie are a wash

haha youre still salty about that? healthy Reggie is so much better than Austin Rivers that other ppl who may not realize you have a vendetta will be really confused about that statement. even Ba thinks thats ludicrous.

>Lou Will > Pistons 6th man

i agreed. but the fact is

Drummond > DJ
Stanley > Gallinari
Kennard > Johnson/Wallace/Teodosic
Reggie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austin

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>>Drummond & DJ are a wash.
>
>lol no. not even close.
>

Not even close huh?

14.7 pts 15.1 rebs 1.4 blks 54% FG 23.7 PER

vs

11.9 pts 14.8 rebs 1.0 blk 67% FG 19.8 PER

The difference is pretty negligible.

>>Blake > Tobias
>
>blake cant be his own teammate. i specifically left out all
>players involved in the trade, because ik comparing the groups
>of leftovers.
>

Like I said before, I'm comparing the teams post trade.

>>Gallo > Stanley
>
>uh, based on what? Gallo is shooting 34/24, and isnt half the
>defender Stanley is, so?
>

Gallo is injured. Been injured all year. I'm gonna assume he's not injured for the rest of his life and plays to his average. Hence, he's a lot better than Stanley Johnson as any starting small forward in the NBA is also better than Stanley Johnson.

>>Bradley > Whatever the Pistons got (Kennard?)
>
>Blake wasnt teammates with Bradley before, still isnt. the
>name you are looking for here is Tyrone Wallace or Milos
>Teodosic or Wesley Johnson. again, im comparing holdovers.
>

Bradley is on the Clippers now. And Bradley is better. ***shrugs***

>>Austin & Reggie are a wash
>
>haha youre still salty about that? healthy Reggie is so much
>better than Austin Rivers that other ppl who may not realize
>you have a vendetta will be really confused about that
>statement. even Ba thinks thats ludicrous.
>

Salty about what? I told you Reggie wasn't that good. And surprise... surprise. He isn't. Why do you think the Pistons can't find a trade partner to take him?

You say "vendetta" like he's good... Lmao.

So let's go....

14.6 ppg, 5.5 apg, 45% fg, 16.6 PER

15.8 ppg, 3.8 apg, 42% fg, 13.1 PER

That's a wash.

>>Lou Will > Pistons 6th man
>
>i agreed. but the fact is
>
>Drummond > DJ
>Stanley > Gallinari
>Kennard > Johnson/Wallace/Teodosic
>Reggie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austin
>


So nah....

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>Not even close huh?
>
>14.7 pts 15.1 rebs 1.4 blks 54% FG 23.7 PER
>
>vs
>
>11.9 pts 14.8 rebs 1.0 blk 67% FG 19.8 PER
>
>The difference is pretty negligible.

if youre gonna list stats list em all
Drummond 3.8 apg 1.5 spg, 7.0 BPM, 3.5 VORP
Jordan 1.5 apg 0.5 spg, 1.7 BPM, 1.3 VORP

so thats more points, more rebounds, significantly more assists, significantly more blocks and steals, significant margin in +/-.

thats not a negligible difference.

>Like I said before, I'm comparing the teams post trade.


>Gallo is injured. Been injured all year. I'm gonna assume he's
>not injured for the rest of his life and plays to his average.
>Hence, he's a lot better than Stanley Johnson as any starting
>small forward in the NBA is also better than Stanley Johnson.

thats quite an assumption for a 30 year old with an ACL reconstruction in his past and a lower extremity muscle tear. ill take the defense i can count on every night

>Salty about what? I told you Reggie wasn't that good. And
>surprise... surprise. He isn't. Why do you think the Pistons
>can't find a trade partner to take him?

because injuries. obviously. also funny how Danilo Gallinari is coming back to "play to his averages" yet you ignore that in Reggie's first 108 games with the Pistons he did 18/7/4. interesting lol.

>14.6 ppg, 5.5 apg, 45% fg, 16.6 PER
>
>15.8 ppg, 3.8 apg, 42% fg, 13.1 PER

LOL thats a >25% jump. That is statistically significant, and not a "wash". Austin is almost 2 points below average and Reggie is almost 2 points above. cmon.

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>Drummond & DJ are a wash.

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At this point of his career, LeBron is going putting himself in the best position to win as many championships as possible. I don't see him going out West to a roster than may literally just have Patrick Beverly and try to win with that. If he leaves Cleveland, he's going someplace that's "one player away," not 10.

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... aren't there a fairly high number of stars that are technically free agents this year?

I agree that it almost certainly wouldn't happen, but I suspect if I'm a Clipper exec who think James may even be *remotely* interested, that would be the pitch: "we'll have the money for a new Big 3, let's find the two stars you'll win your next title with."

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Even if there are two other big name free agents out there that the Clippers could sign, building a whole roster around those three and Beverley and then expecting them to compete for a championship that very season is TALL order. Especially out West.

The Heat had the benefit of being in the East. Even the originally "big 3" on the Celtics were in the East, and they didn't completely rebuild that roster.

I doubt LeBron wants to gamble even a season of his career on "taking time to work the kinks out." If he leaves, it's gotta be for, "We can win right NOW."

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>I doubt LeBron wants to gamble even a season of his career on
>"taking time to work the kinks out." If he leaves, it's gotta
>be for, "We can win right NOW."

And where is that?

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...than the Clippers.

Or Houston (people can take pay-cuts, but it **could** happen).

And there's teams in the East that could make it work.

Personally, I don't think he's leaving Cleveland. But I'd guess if he doesn't win it all this year, he'd rather take a pay-cut than start from scratch.

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this is 25% Kennard, 25% Reggie's injury killing the offense, 50% opportunity to get 4x all-nba player

Avery's shortcomings fit into that 2nd quadrant, but its not like he "didnt work out". obviously the Pistons havent given up on this season (and that may very well pay off when Reggie's back), but given the way the dominoes fell he just wasnt helpful paired with Ish Smith.

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once Reggie went out, the wheels fell off this team. Tobias and Avery's offense included.

>this is 25% Kennard, 25% Reggie's injury killing the offense,
>50% opportunity to get 4x all-nba player
>
>Avery's shortcomings fit into that 2nd quadrant, but its not
>like he "didnt work out". obviously the Pistons havent given
>up on this season (and that may very well pay off when
>Reggie's back), but given the way the dominoes fell he just
>wasnt helpful paired with Ish Smith.
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Get something now or face the choice of losing him for nothing versus a long deal. Clippers will probably flip him now as well for the same reason, especially given that carrying salary forward doesn't seem like something they want to do.

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at the start of this season.

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boat thing in Chicago?

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Plus Hollywood. Bron got a little pull in tinsel town (trainwreck, survivors remorse, doc on his high school, the one on east side's football title team, etc.)

He wants an Oscar too lol

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>Plus Hollywood. Bron got a little pull in tinsel town
>(trainwreck, survivors remorse, doc on his high school, the
>one on east side's football title team, etc.)
>
>He wants an Oscar too lol

Bron ain’t focused on none of that shit during the season.

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If he didn't want to pay Jordan why would he pay Bron and three more all-stars?

>If he didn't want to pay Jordan why would he pay Bron and
>three more all-stars?
>
>

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I've always thought the clippers were a more sensible LA destination than the Lakers if LeBron wants to go there. why be a laker and have to spend the next 50 years standing next to kobe at events like y'all are equals.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Bron has to future proof his situation on some Vivo-Xplay-7-10-gigs-of-ra-with-512-gb of storage shit.

If it's about Chips then just cheat your way there. It worked for KD so Bron should try it.

>Bron has to future proof his situation on some
>Vivo-Xplay-7-10-gigs-of-ra-with-512-gb of storage shit.
>
>If it's about Chips then just cheat your way there. It worked
>for KD so Bron should try it.

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Because Lou and Bradley are still on expiring deals and both would be perfect on and desired by plenty of contenders. The Clippers should just do a hard rebuild, take the PR hit, and trade all four of the guys they can actually get returns for (DJ, Lou Will, Bradley, and Harris).

Still, that they got Blake's deal off the books and got this much back is pretty decent. As for Detroit, SVG may have just made a mess that'll take another half-decade to clean up. Not sure if he should be fired on the spot for this move or kept around since he's the only dude who has any idea how all that Detroit has now is supposed to work.

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I didn’t think they were going anywhere as constructed so it seemed like a good move.

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