18. "*eats Kirby Smart crow*" In response to Reply # 0
two years in and Georgia won the SEC with a true freshman QB. going to the CFP.
Georgia might be the best job in the entire SEC, resource-wise, but have gone through some underwhelming times. he's already planting championship flags.
Tiger Woods Member since Feb 15th 2004 18387 posts
Sun Dec-03-17 12:16 AM
21. "so, now what? (Bama or TOSU???)" In response to Reply # 0
A year ago they opted for one loss Ohio State, who didn't win their conference championship, over two loss conference championship winner Penn State. Ok.
Now, these talking heads are saying Ohio State, with two losses but a conference championship, will go in over one loss Alabama?
Eager to see what happens. I don't know there's a right or wrong answer either.
24. "How is Bama not deserving?" In response to Reply # 22
They lost one game to Auburn, in Auburn. They've dominated and played great all year. Are they the only team in America that's not allowed to lose a single game??
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39. "RE: thats not really accurate. bama ended fsus season in 3 hours" In response to Reply # 34
> >> >>Ohio State had a marquee win over the Big 12 champ last >season >>on the road...bama's win over Florida State turned out to be >>meaningless. >> > >if francois doesnt go down they challenge clemson for their >half of the conference.
People are quick to dismiss the FSU win, but FSU was the classic play to the level of competition team this year , they still had a lot of talent on that team (they played Miami and Clemson tough), plus they had Francois for that game.
That said i don't care either way, but that Iowa loss tho
36. "not really advocating for Ohio State either" In response to Reply # 35
that Iowa loss is damn near unforgivable.
but I think bama's extended excellence obscures the fact that they're a different team every season. and should be judged on their own merits. the 2017 bama team has as good a case as any for the fourth spot based on 11-1, but the narrative that they "dominated all season and had one slip up on the road" isn't completely accurate to me.
then who? fuck it, UCF. undefeated and with an interim coach.
43. "Congrats to Boise. They shut us down in the second half." In response to Reply # 0
But I am still really happy with this season. What a turnaround by Tedford. I figured we'd win 5 games, max. Even though we shouldn't have dropped the UNLV game, I still consider this season to be a wild success. And we did it with a QB from the valley (Dinuba), which I love. ______________________________ http://i.imgur.com/v2ye7l2.jpg
79. "did they? or is this an epistemological fallacy also?" In response to Reply # 58
in that we are calling them the best teams *because* they won
which, coincidentally rarely happens in basketball. i dont care if someone's eyeball champions win or not. i care if everyone has an equal shot to compete, and that the winner checks off every box along the way.
remember 2 weeks ago when people said that was round 1 of the playoffs? wrll which fucking playoff allows teams to lose round 1 and then immediately jump to round 3?
55. "fuck bama, but who didn't see this coming (playoff bias/complaints)..." In response to Reply # 0
a team with two losses, one of which by 31 points in November, crying about the fact they don't get a national title shot. read out loud that would be laughable in any previous college football decade.
yeah, let's go to eight teams, and then the 3-loss teams can start crying next.
60. "Is it really that painful to deal with OSU/USC fans complaining? " In response to Reply # 55
College fans will piss and moan regardless of how absurd their case may be. Some years it just works out where there is a clear cut #1 and #2 team. Many years it doesn't. A 4 team playoff is far more preferable (in my opinion) and equitable than the old system.
Do we really want to go back to the pre BCS era when championships were just arbitrarily decided? Where one year you could have 2 undefeated teams and then somehow one teams gets the slight edge over the other for unknown reasons (PSU/Nebraska '94) and then a few years later 2 teams split the title (Michigan/Nebraska '97) or the odd choice of FSU in 2000 over Miami & Washington. I could go on. The playoff does a much better job of eliminating those legitimate complaints/controversies. No rational college football fan will look back on this season and feel it was tainted by a biased system. The 2 best teams got in. You can argue the merits of UGA and 'Bama getting in, but oh well, at least the 2 best (going by their current resume) got in and 2 damn good teams will get a chance too.
>a team with two losses, one of which by 31 points in >November, crying about the fact they don't get a national >title shot. read out loud that would be laughable in any >previous college football decade. > >yeah, let's go to eight teams, and then the 3-loss teams can >start crying next.
bama has a weak resume, but just sort of speaking to the stuff I've seen on the internet today, with the Ohio State rallying cry being "so I guess conference championships don't matter now"
no, they aren't the end-all in the CFP...since uh, 2016 Ohio State
68. "conf championships matter (or should matter) " In response to Reply # 65 Sun Dec-03-17 05:10 PM by 3xKrazy
depending on the context. it's just another metric to use and in the context of this year it should've been weighted more heavily IMO. especially when you had two top 5 teams playing in the game. sometimes we have conf championship games which are total mismatches.
like ive said if you want to put in a 2nd team from a conference they better be really fucking good and have some objective evidence to demonstrate that
77. "Yeah, I hate to see Bama back-door into the playoffs too. " In response to Reply # 61
11-1 is 11-1 I guess. Their resume does kind of suck and they played poorly down the stretch. I could see an argument for either Bama or OSU, but I wouldn't shed tears over either team being left out.
>I hate bama back-dooring their way into the playoff but >that's what they do. BCS era as well. > >I just think it's funny that Ohio State is some barometer of >outrage now, when you consider their resume and what happened >to Penn State last season.
63. "it's a question of what you find most offensive" In response to Reply # 55
3rd best team in their conference with nothing to show for themselves other than some sort of career achievement award is pretty high on the offensiveness meter. not to mention losing badly to auburn who got wrecked the following week.
you also had the committee state that there was very little separating teams 5-8...so ok, with little separation and bama stays home while other teams win a conference championship...and in OSU's case defeated an unbeaten top 4 team. seems to me that would swing things one way or the other.
with that said i dont blame anyone for not wanting to see a JT rematch vs clemson. as an OSU fan i dont even want to see that shit.
i wonder if OSU handled business in a more convincing fashion last night (as they should have) would it have changed the outcome today.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79600 posts
Sun Dec-03-17 09:43 PM
78. "RE: you already admitted its a perception game, so that means nothing" In response to Reply # 76
>where is the media blitz about how the big 10 beats up on >itself and Iowa City is a daunting place to play for any >opponent?
Lmao. You right tho... gotta sell that shit.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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