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"The fuck?? David Fizdale fired"
Mon Nov-27-17 04:43 PM by Dstl1

          

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he benched marc gasol last night
Nov 27th 2017
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by the comments it wasn't a personal rift?
Nov 27th 2017
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But like...so?
Nov 27th 2017
4
      I agree. idk what the thinking is here.
Nov 27th 2017
7
dont bench marc i guess.
Nov 27th 2017
3
...while Chandler Parsons is still getting checks...
Nov 27th 2017
5
Parsons coming in weekly like
Nov 27th 2017
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      LOL
Nov 27th 2017
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      lol
Nov 27th 2017
17
Some GM is going to look really smart this summer when they hire him
Nov 27th 2017
6
sheeesh......smh
Nov 27th 2017
8
not surprising y'all know black coaches have a short leash
Nov 27th 2017
9
so, what now...
Nov 27th 2017
10
They've fired 3 coaches in 6 years, they fired Lionel Hollins after a 56...
Nov 27th 2017
13
If I were the Wiz, I would fire Brooks and hire Fiz immediately.
Nov 27th 2017
14
but you got feel like he ends up in Chi
Nov 27th 2017
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Well, Pera is weird like that
Nov 27th 2017
15
Isn't Hollinger still calling the shots there?
Nov 27th 2017
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      https://img00.deviantart.net/42ad/i/2012/245/1/6/mathman_by_tpirman1982-...
Nov 28th 2017
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Lebron and the league reacts...:
Nov 27th 2017
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Well, that's just dumb.
Nov 27th 2017
20
RE: The fuck?? David Fizdale fired
Nov 27th 2017
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Hope he goes to Cleveland as an asst. Great presence.
Nov 27th 2017
22
Marc "Coach Killer" Gasol
Nov 27th 2017
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Another stupid move by the Grizzlies organization...
Nov 27th 2017
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so stupid. they need to blow it up and start over.
Nov 28th 2017
25
Start over for what?
Nov 28th 2017
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RE: so stupid. they need to blow it up and start over.
Nov 28th 2017
28
Remember when I was a "race baiter" in OKS?
Nov 28th 2017
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I DO remember that!
Nov 28th 2017
30
So we gotta pretend Marc Gasol is good enough to get coaches fired?
Nov 28th 2017
31
Are there folks that are publicly defending this as a wise move?
Nov 28th 2017
32
i'm mad i missed this reply until now. great work.
Feb 27th 2018
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Kevin O'Connor really didn't mince words with this (swipe)
Nov 29th 2017
33
Maybe they did Fiz a favor, then.
Nov 29th 2017
34
Watch him handle the Bucks in 8 months.
Nov 29th 2017
35
No mention of “advanced stats” guru Hollinger? Isn’t he...
Feb 27th 2018
42
Ummm, something's happening in Memphis
Nov 30th 2017
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Here's the article
Nov 30th 2017
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      No physical
Nov 30th 2017
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           The writer actually tweeted out a correction on that part
Nov 30th 2017
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organization's a mess. he is a good coach and i hope he gets a good gig
Dec 03rd 2017
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*perfectly spherical bead of sweat rolls down doc rivers' temple*
Dec 03rd 2017
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Woj says Mills is laying the groundwork to get Fiz out the paint
Nov 11th 2019
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LOL man....all goes back to Dolan....wont change til hes out
Nov 11th 2019
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That excuse is tired. Dolan doesn’t coach the team.
Nov 11th 2019
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I was baffled by the decision to bench Knox for Morris
Nov 11th 2019
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not surprised. i'm just going by gut feeling...
Nov 11th 2019
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For a sec I thought this was a new post.
Nov 11th 2019
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CoSign
Nov 11th 2019
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somebody gotta drug test mills
Nov 11th 2019
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can't believe they held a press conference last night
Nov 11th 2019
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I think the main reason
Nov 12th 2019
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He will geta quality gig, but damn he needs to JET!
Nov 12th 2019
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get Fiz out of that shithole he deserves better
Nov 12th 2019
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Fizz is a big reason they suck. He's garbage & you know it.
Nov 12th 2019
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      You HIGH
Nov 12th 2019
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      Yeah for sure. That roster is fucking STACKED.
Nov 12th 2019
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           Yeah this roster is cheeks
Nov 13th 2019
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C'mon Fiz ain't it. A lot of people in here doing their First Take thing...
Nov 13th 2019
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RE: C'mon Fiz ain't it. A lot of people in here doing their First Take t...
Nov 13th 2019
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1. "he benched marc gasol last night"
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2. "by the comments it wasn't a personal rift?"
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but who knows what's going on, fizdale said he was desperate so maybe he'd been hearing from the front office already

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/david-fizdale-benching-marc-gasol-could-be-the-final-tipping-point-for-the-grizzlies/

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4. "But like...so?"
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Marc gets benched. That's bad, I guess. But it's been a common thing for coaches to leave the lineup that went on the run in. It ALWAYS gets questioned if it doesnt work out but no big deal if it doesn't. The Grizzlies lost some key pieces this offseason and Mike Conley has only played like half the season. They weren't expected to be great or anything.

Gasol is under contract for another couple years. What's he gonna do? He can't leave yet.

Their GM should be fired for signing Chandler Parsons for that mega deal. So stupid.

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7. "I agree. idk what the thinking is here."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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3. "dont bench marc i guess."
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5. "...while Chandler Parsons is still getting checks..."
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Not singling him out as much as the FO moves

they hand out that big contract

Gay, Rudolf and Allen gone

I mean, what did they expect this season

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11. "Parsons coming in weekly like"
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SUCH a bullshit move to fire Fizdale... deserves better.

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12. "LOL"
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17. "lol"
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6. "Some GM is going to look really smart this summer when they hire him"
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9. "not surprising y'all know black coaches have a short leash"
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10. "so, what now..."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2536937&mesg_id=2536937&listing_type=search

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13. "They've fired 3 coaches in 6 years, they fired Lionel Hollins after a 56..."
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win season(franchise record) and a trip to the conference finals which is also the furthest they have EVER been in the playoffs.

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14. "If I were the Wiz, I would fire Brooks and hire Fiz immediately."
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18. "but you got feel like he ends up in Chi"
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15. "Well, Pera is weird like that"
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then again he always seems to hire another good coach afterwards...

He did it with Hollins, who was the original Unjustly Fired Black Coach, then hired Joerger, then fired him and hired Fizdale. He just keeps finding coaches that do well.

  

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19. "Isn't Hollinger still calling the shots there?"
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16. "Lebron and the league reacts...:"
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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-reacts-along-with-the-rest-of-twitter-to-memphis-firing-of-david-fizdale/

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21. "RE: The fuck?? David Fizdale fired"
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he beat golden state like 3 times last year, this is unbelievable

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22. "Hope he goes to Cleveland as an asst. Great presence."
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23. "Marc "Coach Killer" Gasol "
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24. "Another stupid move by the Grizzlies organization..."
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fire Terry Stotts and hire Fiz.

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25. "so stupid. they need to blow it up and start over."
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trade gasol and conley

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27. "Start over for what?"
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how?
to where?
how long?

Players like Mike and Marc aren't gonna come around again unless the franchise just gets extra lucky in a draft which is historically unlikely.

  

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28. "RE: so stupid. they need to blow it up and start over."
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>trade gasol and conley


Conley's injury issues and that hefty contract he signed a year or so ago is going to make moving him a bit hard, no?

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26. "Remember when I was a "race baiter" in OKS? "
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31. "So we gotta pretend Marc Gasol is good enough to get coaches fired? "
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Is he even a Top 5 center?

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32. "Are there folks that are publicly defending this as a wise move?"
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More coverage that I've seen has been of folks scratching their collective heads over why this was done.

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43. "i'm mad i missed this reply until now. great work."
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33. "Kevin O'Connor really didn't mince words with this (swipe)"
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https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/11/28/16708888/memphis-grizzlies-david-fizdale-marc-gasol-future


Wallace might also find himself in the crosshairs if the Grizzlies continue to slide. Fizdale didn’t sign Chandler Parsons for $94 million. Fizdale didn’t add retreads like Ben McLemore and Mario Chalmers. Fizdale didn’t trade first-rounders for rentals (Ronnie Brewer, Shane Battier, and Jeff Green). Fizdale didn’t draft Kevin Love and trade him for O.J. Mayo. Fizdale didn’t draft Hasheem Thabeet, Xavier Henry, Jordan Adams, and Jarell Martin. Fizdale didn’t draft Wade Baldwin and Rade Zagorac then cut them both one year later. That was all Wallace’s doing.

Wallace’s tenure started out beautifully when the front office took a long view in 2008 dealing Pau Gasol. But with a focus on the playoffs, their moves this decade have largely fixated on the short term. Their decisions were understandable, but it’s gotten them into trouble. They have one of the oldest cores in the NBA. Gasol, Conley, and Parsons are on the books for roughly $80 million combined annually in 2018–19 and 2019–20. They won’t have cap space until 2020, when Conley will be 33 and making $34.5 million. Conley himself has suffered numerous Achilles injuries over the past year, which currently has him sidelined. Gasol turns 33 in two months and is under two years removed from major foot surgery on his navicular bone. Parsons is basketball’s Mr. Glass.

None of their young players have shown long-term upside, aside from 2017 second-rounder Dillon Brooks, who still projects as a role player. That’s problematic because their draft-pick situation is murky. They owe a first-rounder to the Celtics (top-eight protected in 2019, top-six protected in 2020, and unprotected in 2021, should it take that long to convey) and don’t have any incoming first-rounders. Memphis’s core is old and its future is fucked.


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34. "Maybe they did Fiz a favor, then. "
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35. "Watch him handle the Bucks in 8 months."
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calling shots there?

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36. "Ummm, something's happening in Memphis"
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Maybe people who know more can school me, but doesn't this mean Pera can basically be bought out by the minority partners?

https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/936349162169356289

A buy-sell clause in the Grizzlies ownership agreement has been exercised, sources tell The Athletic. Owner Robert Pera now has a decision to make. Story posting soon.

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37. "Here's the article"
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So Pera could just buy them out and keep the whole franchise for himself. Remember when $377 million dollars could get you an NBA team?

https://theathletic.com/170989/2017/11/30/memphis-grizzlies-minority-owners-exercise-buy-sell-option-uncertainty-reeling-franchise-david-fizdale/

Exclusive: Grizzlies minority owners exercise buy-sell option, adding more uncertainty to a reeling franchise

It was not that long ago that the Memphis Grizzlies were one of the league’s shining success stories, the poster child for a bond between city and franchise with a proud core of leaders that made the playoffs an expectation.

The Grizzlies were named the most well-run franchise in North American sports by ESPN in 2013 and NBA Commissioner Adam Silver held them up as “the model of small-market success” in 2014, one year after they advanced to the Western Conference finals.

Flash forward to 2017 and this once stable and standard-setting organization is on shaky ground, and the uncertainty is only growing. When coach David Fizdale was fired this week, interim coach J.B. Bickerstaff became the fourth coach in the last six seasons, a startling level of volatility for a team that has made the playoffs for seven straight seasons.

The roster is in flux, half of the foursome that laid the groundwork for the team’s success is gone and Robert Pera’s future as lead owner of the franchise is in question.

A buy-sell provision in the ownership agreement between Pera and minority owners Steve Kaplan and Daniel Straus was exercised last week, sources told The Athletic. Both minority owners had the right to invoke the clause starting in late October, which allows one or both of them to set a new valuation for the franchise that sold for $377 million in 2012.

Pera, who is being represented by CAA in the process, will have to decide whether to buy out Kaplan and/or Straus to keep control of the team or sell his shares at the set price and remove himself from the ownership group.

The clause in the agreement, which was first reported by ESPN, was born of Pera’s tenuous acquisition of the team from previous owner Michael Heisley in 2012. During that process, the value of Pera’s technology company, Ubiquiti Networks, took a sharp plunge, forcing him to bring on Kaplan and Straus as partners with 13.5 percent equity and give a number of owners with Memphis ties, including Peyton Manning and Justin Timberlake, smaller pieces of the pie to be able to close the deal.

Pera’s first couple of seasons in Memphis were successful, with Mike Conley, Marc Gasol, Tony Allen and Zach Randolph forming the backbone of the Grizzlies’ “Grit ‘n Grind” culture that endeared the franchise to the no-nonsense people of Memphis and made them a bruising opponent for the rest of the NBA. They won a franchise-record 56 games and advanced to the Western Conference finals in 2013 and have been in the playoffs every season Pera has been in charge, no small feat for a team that missed the playoffs in 12 of its first 15 seasons in the league.

But after winning at least 50 games in three straight seasons from 2012-13 to 2014-15, the injury-plagued Grizzlies slipped to 42 in 2015-16 and won 43 last year in Fizdale's only full season. They are 7-13 this season, losers of nine straight and in 12th place in the West.

Pera pulled the plug on fiery coach Lionel Hollins after that 2013 run, setting up a rollercoaster of coaching changes over the next five years. Dave Joerger spent three years at the helm, leading them to the playoffs in all three seasons and the conference semifinals in 2015. But his relationship with Pera was volatile from the start, with sources telling The Athletic that the reclusive owner considered firing him just three games into his first season. Joerger grew so displeased with the situation that he interviewed for the opening with the Minnesota Timberwolves during the summer of 2014, but wound up staying in Memphis for two more seasons.

Joerger fled for Sacramento before last season and was replaced by Fizdale, who was fired one month into his second season on the job.

Through it all, Pera has been a shadowy figure with the Grizzlies. He is almost never in Memphis to attend games, a lack of visibility that has contributed to questions about his level of involvement with the franchise and Memphis.

“I always tell him I would like to see him at more games,” Gasol told reporters on media day.

Gasol has always said he has a close relationship with Pera and speaks to him regularly. The All-Star has long been supportive of the young owner but has also acknowledged that his lack of visibility does not help the situation.

Though he was quoted in the press release announcing Fizdale's firing, his role in the decision to do so remains unclear. But the move drew sharp rebukes across the league from LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Heat head coach Erik Spoelstra, who worked with Fizdale in Miami, to Nuggets coach Michael Malone and others.

The absentee approach has led to tension between Pera and his minority owners, sources said. Kaplan tried to extricate himself from the situation a year and a half ago when he entered into negotiations with Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor to join the team as a minority partner with the intent on one day purchasing a majority stake in the franchise. But that agreement fell through, the second time Kaplan has missed out on a chance to become the lead owner of an NBA franchise. He was outbid by Tony Ressler for the Atlanta Hawks in 2015.

Straus is a New York-based healthcare magnate and the Grizzlies vice chairman.

Serving as Pera’s main consigliere in Memphis has been Joe Abadi, who carries the title of executive director but has no basketball background. He is higher on the food chain than GM Chris Wallace, who helped assemble the “Core Four” of Gasol, Allen, Conley and Randolph but has struggled since to buttress that group with the talent necessary to truly contend in the powerful Western Conference.

The Grizzlies said goodbye to the aging Randolph and Allen in the offseason, and injuries and underwhelming performances in recent drafts have hampered their ability to retool. They splurged on big contracts for Gasol and Conley, but signing Chandler Parsons, a versatile swingman with a history of knee problems, to a four-year, $94 million contract in 2016 has proven to be a huge mistake. The deal was completed without requiring a physical and contained no injury protections, according to sources, which has severely impacted the team’s salary cap situation.

The Grizzlies also do not have a first-round pick in next year’s draft thanks to an ill-advised trade for veteran journeyman Jeff Green, who is long gone from the roster.

All of it adds up to the kind of uncertainty — on the court and off — that can be difficult for a franchise to overcome, especially one in a smaller market like Memphis.

Seattle has been getting more aggressive in trying to address its arena situation to get a team to return to the city vacated when the SuperSonics left for Oklahoma City. But the Grizzlies lease at the FedEx Forum has strong protections through 2021 and the Commercial-Appeal reported that the subset of local owners in the group would be given the chance to buy the team if Pera, or any other owner, were to try to move the Grizzlies before 2027.

Since diving into the Grizzlies in 2012, Pera’s net worth has skyrocketed thanks in large part to a stock price rebound for his technology company. The value of the Grizzlies has more than doubled during his time as owner as well, and other franchises like the Houston Rockets ($2.2 billion) and the Los Angeles Clippers ($2 billion) have driven up the price tag to be an NBA owner.

It remains unknown whether he will look to retain the team or cash out and reap a financial windfall for his much smaller initial investment. The process could take months to come to a conclusion.

But for a once-stable franchise that was held up as a model for others to follow, the value of the product on the court appears to be in decline.

“We’ve been headed in a bad direction for quite some time,” Wallace told reporters on the day Fizdale was fired.

He was referring to trends he was seeing with the team in the games, but he could just as easily have been talking about the franchise as a whole.

Conley will still be out another two to three weeks with a sore left heel and Achilles tendon and Parsons is again experiencing issues with a right knee that has been surgically repaired three times.

That leaves Bickerstaff to try to pick up the pieces with a short-handed group as a daunting December schedule filled with heavyweights looms.

The long-term outlook for the franchise in Memphis is by no means assured either, until some clarity emerges in the ownership situation.

In a way, the buy-sell activation may be some of the best news the Grizzlies have had in a while. The season started under this cloud of uncertainty, with everyone knowing that the minority owners had the right to go down this road starting in late October. Deadlines spur action in the NBA, and maybe this one will lead to some much-needed answers for all involved.

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38. "No physical"
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if that's true, which i have reason to be skeptical given the history AND because that's malpractice, is damning

i said it when it happened but Fiz was definitely paying the price for FO mistakes.

  

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39. "The writer actually tweeted out a correction on that part"
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40. "organization's a mess. he is a good coach and i hope he gets a good gig"
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41. "*perfectly spherical bead of sweat rolls down doc rivers' temple*"
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44. "Woj says Mills is laying the groundwork to get Fiz out the paint"
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45. "LOL man....all goes back to Dolan....wont change til hes out"
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51. "That excuse is tired. Dolan doesn’t coach the team."
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They spend money and get players.

Fiz might suck.

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46. "I was baffled by the decision to bench Knox for Morris "
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I guess they really had high aspirations

I would've chalked this year up to letting the young guys get familiar running together

Take the Ls and collect another lottery pick

Start fresh next year

Doubt anyone would have cared or noticed

Here we are 10 games into the season, and management is disappointed?

NYK calculation, sign and start Morris = championship

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47. "not surprised. i'm just going by gut feeling..."
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but he just doesn't seem like the fit there. now, you could argue is anyone the right fit based on recent performance and how the team is run (or has been run).

but, yeah, he just...i dunno. it feels off.

  

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48. "For a sec I thought this was a new post. "
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Then I remembered this went down in Memphis 2 years ago.

What I said in #20 still very much applies here.

When the organization is rotten at the core, you get messes like this.

Shitty owners here shitty management who make shitty personnel decisions. I don't know how Fizdale could be held responsible for this team losing.

That Mills apparently thought that the team as currently constructed would contend is the funniest part.

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49. "CoSign"
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50. "somebody gotta drug test mills"
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these guys would be decent players, if they weren't all on a team with each other.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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52. "can't believe they held a press conference last night"
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sure, anyone would be disappointed, but did they actually expect this team to be good? do they think kyrie and durant signed or something?

  

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53. "I think the main reason"
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for that sideshow on Sunday after the game centered around the fact Dolan was at the game and fans both booed the team and shouted out chants to fire him. His ego was bruised and he felt the need for Mills and Perry to give that sham of a press conference.

I will say that the constant shifts in the starting line-ups by Fizdale is a bit frustrating, but given how trash the roster is, I can't get too mad in terms of blown expectations. One of the worst parts in all this of course is that the Knicks can't even tank in the hopes of getting the number on pick due to the league's changes from last season.

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56. "He will geta quality gig, but damn he needs to JET!"
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54. "get Fiz out of that shithole he deserves better"
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55. "Fizz is a big reason they suck. He's garbage & you know it."
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57. "You HIGH"
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58. "Yeah for sure. That roster is fucking STACKED. "
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61. "Yeah this roster is cheeks "
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59. "C'mon Fiz ain't it. A lot of people in here doing their First Take thing..."
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60. "RE: C'mon Fiz ain't it. A lot of people in here doing their First Take t..."
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I think he's A problem in that his roster selections and constant shifts in the starting line-ups are a bit rough, but I don't think the dude is THE problem for the Knicks right now. The roster is quite trash and I honestly don't know if a big name coach will want to take this job if Fizdale gets his pink slip given 1) how Fizdale is getting thrown under the bus 2) how garbage the roster is 3) free agents will not come to the Knicks and 4) they are going to have to deal with Dolan in some shape or fashion either directly or indirectly.


I'd love to be proven wrong in the Knicks suddenly firing Fizdale and getting some other coach that will somehow be the magical elixir to solve all the Knicks' problems, but I don't see it. The team is going to have to be patient and suffer for the short term.

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