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Subject: "You wanna talk about dat D, learn to take that D when it's yo turn. " Previous topic | Next topic
Basaglia
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"You wanna talk about dat D, learn to take that D when it's yo turn. "


  

          

https://stats.nba.com/players/defense/

no, you're the gay one.

BE MAD!

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4usE2RePqo
Nov 02nd 2017
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damn...good post.
Nov 02nd 2017
2
damn stevens a wizard.
Nov 02nd 2017
3
THEY DON'T LIKE IT WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN BA
Nov 02nd 2017
4
don't let him strap up on russ tomorrow. i'm partying like gronk.
Nov 02nd 2017
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      https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYIIuwwHEfULhcI/giphy.gif
Nov 02nd 2017
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           i did say strap him up, which he's never done. might give him 40 tho.
Nov 02nd 2017
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fake news lol
Nov 02nd 2017
6
No doubt, Melo is getting it done on that end
Nov 02nd 2017
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Still #2 on his own team i see...
Nov 02nd 2017
8
Ingram top 20 too. They won't address that either.
Nov 02nd 2017
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ingram is visibly the lakers best player. got into wit Tone on the 'cast
Nov 02nd 2017
10
Not trying to be dick or get into agendas, but what is Def WS?
Nov 02nd 2017
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lemme make it easy for you....he leading the league in steals.
Nov 02nd 2017
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so it's "win shares"
Nov 02nd 2017
15
Got it. Thanks.
Nov 02nd 2017
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unless you really believe Boston has 4 of the top 6 defensive players...
Nov 02nd 2017
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I think I might be more mad than the night of the Decision.
Nov 02nd 2017
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it's a looooong season, Doc.
Nov 02nd 2017
19
Is that a Wesley Pipes quote?
Nov 02nd 2017
20

Innocent Criminal
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1. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4usE2RePqo"
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Thu Nov-02-17 09:04 AM by Innocent Criminal

  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4usE2RePqo

Nah, keep pushing that 'genda man. I'm rooting for you on this one.

EDIT: Minus the flat earth thing.

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Cenario
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Thu Nov-02-17 09:18 AM

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2. "damn...good post."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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Thu Nov-02-17 09:22 AM

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3. "damn stevens a wizard."
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i havent seen them play since opening night. i gotta check them out.

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dula dibiasi
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Thu Nov-02-17 09:23 AM

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4. "THEY DON'T LIKE IT WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN BA"
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THEY BE HATIN

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Basaglia
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Thu Nov-02-17 09:27 AM

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5. "don't let him strap up on russ tomorrow. i'm partying like gronk. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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13. "https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYIIuwwHEfULhcI/giphy.gif"
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https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYIIuwwHEfULhcI/giphy.gif

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Basaglia
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14. "i did say strap him up, which he's never done. might give him 40 tho. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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6. "fake news lol"
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DJR
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Thu Nov-02-17 09:38 AM

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7. "No doubt, Melo is getting it done on that end"
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theeraser
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Thu Nov-02-17 09:40 AM

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8. "Still #2 on his own team i see..."
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Joking, don't be sensitive

  

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Frank Longo
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Thu Nov-02-17 11:39 AM

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9. "Ingram top 20 too. They won't address that either. "
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Basaglia
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Thu Nov-02-17 11:41 AM

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10. "ingram is visibly the lakers best player. got into wit Tone on the 'cast"
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i'd had enough, dogg. dare you not to laugh when you hear it.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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TheRealBillyOcean
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Thu Nov-02-17 11:46 AM

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11. "Not trying to be dick or get into agendas, but what is Def WS?"
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Like what are they calculating or looking at? Cuz I see a few of those names on the list (Tyreke Evans) and I'm confused.

I know a lot of y'all seemingly smart dudes here love the Advanced Stats, but explain this to me. You can do Off WS too while you're at it.

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Basaglia
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12. "lemme make it easy for you....he leading the league in steals. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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15. "so it's "win shares""
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everyone has a slightly different formula for these things, but the basic idea is: it's d-rating weighted by whether or not your team won and how many minutes you played.

d-rating is, basically, when you're on the court how many points does the player you're guarding score. 100 is the benchmark--below 100 is good, just above 100 is reasonable, well above 100 is bad. D-rating is probably the hardest to get right--it's strongly affected by the quality of the team's overall defense and guards get hurt compared to bigs because rebounding is a part of d-rating. it also inflates defenders who make splashy plays (steals, blocks) over ones who just deny the opponent the chance to score (good fundamentals). Still, it's better than most any other metric out there.

offensive win share and rating is the flipside of that idea. How much better than average are you when you have the ball and how much has that led to Ws.

for an example of the specific formula: https://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ratings.html



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16. "Got it. Thanks. "
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17. "unless you really believe Boston has 4 of the top 6 defensive players..."
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in the NBA its obvious that its a garbage stat.

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18. "I think I might be more mad than the night of the Decision."
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19. "it's a looooong season, Doc."
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20. "Is that a Wesley Pipes quote? "
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