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okayplayery
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"Luka Doncic better be the #1 pick next year"


          

He just gave the business to Gasol brothers and Rubio and before that to Porzingis. He's the most fundamentally sound 18-year old the Europe has ever seen. Better than Petrovic, Nowitzki, Oscar, etc.

  

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Zingis did drop 34 but dude did get the win and some late buckets
Sep 15th 2017
1
theres some real talent at the top of this draft
Sep 15th 2017
2
unless you've got a bucket deficit and you go porter
Sep 15th 2017
3
*slides Bagley into the post*
Sep 15th 2017
4
I get why. I sincerely do.
Sep 15th 2017
5
      Out of curiosity, who are your top 10 in next year's draft?
Sep 15th 2017
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           i'll give it a shot
Sep 16th 2017
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                Sexton is a nut lmao. I like that kid.
Sep 16th 2017
8
                off court quiet as a churchmouse good ass kid
Sep 16th 2017
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                Sounds about right. Kevin and/or Hami gonna slide in there somewhere tho...
Sep 17th 2017
11
                     exponential growth would have to happen
Sep 17th 2017
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                          For sure.Cal can get them there.
Sep 19th 2017
18
hope OE gets in on this
Sep 17th 2017
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Wherever he's taken, he better be really good
Sep 18th 2017
13
Question about Doncic's speed/athleticism:
Sep 19th 2017
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Kyrie
Sep 19th 2017
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      Kyrie was scouted as having average speed?
Sep 19th 2017
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           I remember average athleticism...
Sep 19th 2017
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                Find me a scouting report that says "average NBA speed."
Sep 19th 2017
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                     Kyrie is definitely not as bouncy and twitchy as other guys.
Dec 05th 2018
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                          Those are two separate things.
Dec 05th 2018
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And now Kings are mad at Joerger lol
Dec 05th 2018
20
The Suns should be even more mad
Dec 05th 2018
21
sir we are mad about everything from the top to the bottom
Dec 05th 2018
22
I still contend the Kings & Suns made the right picks.
Dec 05th 2018
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LOL
Aug 25th 2020
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He's 19 years old, averaging 13, 7, and over a block in 24 MPG.
Dec 05th 2018
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      Okafor-esque numbers
Dec 08th 2018
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before the season i was like if the mavs lose 50 its still gonna be
Dec 06th 2018
27
good gravy
Dec 08th 2018
28
yeah, that 11-0 run he put on Houston was impressive, no doubt
Dec 08th 2018
29
Joerger: "Congrats Vlade, you played yourself"
Dec 19th 2018
31
IMO he meant "us" as in "the rest of the league"
Dec 19th 2018
32
this guy...
Dec 24th 2018
33
He's what simmons could be if crooked shot crock had a jump shot.
Dec 25th 2018
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Doncic didn't do shit last night
Jan 06th 2019
35
Ben LOCKED his ass up
Jan 06th 2019
36
Don Luka
Nov 06th 2019
37
lmao, see, this is why I don't comment on overseas dudes.
Aug 25th 2020
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reply #4
Aug 25th 2020
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      Notice I didn't actually comment on Doncic.
Aug 25th 2020
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Cenario
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1. "Zingis did drop 34 but dude did get the win and some late buckets"
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he looks good.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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2. "theres some real talent at the top of this draft"
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he'll have his haters, but at least he's shown and proven vs NBA guys (albeit in international format).

Better when these guys get drafted off potential averaging 2.1 pts ppg and 1.5 rebs for FC barcelona and were told its because of how the minutes system is in Europe

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3. "unless you've got a bucket deficit and you go porter"
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the buckets doncic will create himself, and via hockey assists will make up for it even if he's not a 25ppg scorer.

special skillset.

  

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Frank Longo
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4. "*slides Bagley into the post*"
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5. "I get why. I sincerely do."
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these are, well, children, really. So we don't know who they'll be in 6 yrs.


just on what I've seen, unless something changes...

ionno if he's a cornerstone.

a lethal #2 next to a star, yep. My guy? Building block? mmmm..no.

and I say this as someone whose day in day out job for, basically the last 2 yrs is basically this.

I do my best to keep my takes as frozen and measured as I can.

  

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6. "Out of curiosity, who are your top 10 in next year's draft?"
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I honestly haven't seen enough of HS kids to say more beyond the simple "I like them" or "I'm not sure I see it next level," so I'm curious to hear expanded thoughts.

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7. "i'll give it a shot"
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caveat of "draft prognostication not really my thing" for when all this is dead ass wrong, lol.
no order off top
porter
doncic
bamba
ayton
bagley
jaren jackson jr (could be myles turner type. 17 (maybe just turned 18) legit stretch 5 type.
bridges
robert williams (havent watched him in college at all. in hs just on body and hang time he legit made me go "who is that?" even though he had almost no skill. his ascent has been cool to follow
c. sexton semi-personal bias. was put on to him way before he became a thing. i almost cant bet against him if that makes sense. 6'1" and high jumps 6'8" and seemingly better all the time. if "wanting it" was a skill he might go 1.
thats 9. you know who could be 10 for me for shits and giggles. bruce brown. miami. might be 1a in terms of wanting it. fucking DAWG. has willed himself into a guy who may play pg in the league. marcus smart-ish with the intangibles but hecoming a guy who can shoot it.


  

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8. "Sexton is a nut lmao. I like that kid. "
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I'd punch him in the face if I had to play him though

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9. "off court quiet as a churchmouse good ass kid"
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its..bizarre.
but it works.

  

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11. "Sounds about right. Kevin and/or Hami gonna slide in there somewhere tho..."
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12. "exponential growth would have to happen"
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hami had the 40/18/64 slash @ WC.
KK ball skills seem to have plateau'd
but now they're in the big time and we'll see what competition does to em.

  

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18. "For sure.Cal can get them there. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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10. "hope OE gets in on this"
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Donkic seems like the perfect players for another Christian McCaffery MEMS agenda.

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13. "Wherever he's taken, he better be really good"
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i feel like super-hyped Euro prospects since Darko have pretty much lived up to their draft position. Gallinari, Rubio, Bargnani (no he was not a bust), Kanter have all been serviceable players. And the latest Euros are even better. Jokic, Giannis, Zingis....all gonna be perennial all-stars.

But, the way they cysing this kid right now, just giving him the #1 spot...he bet not be sorry

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14. "Question about Doncic's speed/athleticism:"
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I've seen multiple scouting sites say they have questions or concerns about how his speed/athleticism would impact his ceiling in the NBA. When was the last time a wing player with these concerns was considered for the #1 pick? Outside of James Harden, has there been a wing player picked Top 5 with these concerns who made multiple All-Star games the last, say, 15-20 years?

I'm not saying dude can't beast, and dude's IQ is clearly bonkers... I'm just pretty amazed that we're looking at multiple scouts cysing a wing prospect as the #1 overall while simultaneously wondering about his speed and athleticism at the NBA level.

(This question may be primarily for themaddfapper, lol.)

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15. "Kyrie"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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16. "Kyrie was scouted as having average speed?"
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By which scouts? And why do those scouts have jobs?

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17. "I remember average athleticism..."
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and speed when compared to guys like Rose, Russ, and Wall.

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19. "Find me a scouting report that says "average NBA speed.""
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You don't count. lol.

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23. "Kyrie is definitely not as bouncy and twitchy as other guys. "
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>You don't count. lol.

Like RBO said: Rose, Westbrook, etc.


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26. "Those are two separate things."
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I never argued he was as fast as Rose or Westbrook or Wall. But he's pretty clearly above-average fast for the NBA. Which goes back to the point I made in the first place.

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20. "And now Kings are mad at Joerger lol"
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They should be mad at Bagley for being sorry

  

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21. "The Suns should be even more mad"
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22. "sir we are mad about everything from the top to the bottom"
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of this franchse.

but it all starts with Evil Death Lord Robert Sarver, the Sith of NBA Franchises.

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24. "I still contend the Kings & Suns made the right picks. "
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38. "LOL"
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CONTEND DEEZ NUTZ!

  

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25. "He's 19 years old, averaging 13, 7, and over a block in 24 MPG."
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In what world is that sorry?

Doncic having a tremendous rookie season doesn't diminish the fact that Bagley has a great chance at being a First-Team All-Rookie this season too.

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30. "Okafor-esque numbers"
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nah, he aight tho

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27. "before the season i was like if the mavs lose 50 its still gonna be"
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more exciting to watch than anything theyve done the past 10 years


i cant believe what they are doing out there after a bit of a shakey start

even the shitty loss tonight not withstanding


im enjoying every game

  

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28. "good gravy"
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this guy is something

  

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29. "yeah, that 11-0 run he put on Houston was impressive, no doubt"
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31. "Joerger: "Congrats Vlade, you played yourself""
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https://www.sbnation.com/2018/12/17/18145582/dave-joerger-luka-doncic-comments-controversy-kings-feud-brandon-williams-vlade-divac-2018-nba-draft

  

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32. "IMO he meant "us" as in "the rest of the league""
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if vlade or williams or vivek or whatever incompetent boob is mad about this, that's just a reflection of their own insecurity. i know williams and joerger have had funk but i highly doubt he was airing it out now at that moment.

the kings are fucking trash though and hell yeah doncic should have gone no lower than 2 overall.

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33. "this guy..."
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https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1077058135729287168

  

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34. "He's what simmons could be if crooked shot crock had a jump shot."
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___________________

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35. "Doncic didn't do shit last night "
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Ben had his way with dude.

We gonna talk about him not putting any effort in on D, or was last night an aberration?

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36. "Ben LOCKED his ass up "
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37. "Don Luka"
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Don’t act friendly now

  

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39. "lmao, see, this is why I don't comment on overseas dudes."
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I genuinely *never* know if a Euro guy is a Doncic or a Vesely or a Bender. No clue.

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40. "reply #4"
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41. "Notice I didn't actually comment on Doncic. "
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Strange how that's exactly what I just said. I just noted that I think Bagley had #1 overall talent.

I asked a question about Luka's speed/athleticism, because I was genuinely curious-- note that, again, I said absolutely nothing there claiming to know anything. Because I didn't.

The last Euro I actually claimed anything about at all was Nurkic, just because he was big as shit and I heard he wasn't afraid of physical play-- that's always a good scouting report to hear about Euro bigs.

That said, again, don't ever feel nearly as comfortable about those guys as guys I've actually watched countless games for.

The two hardest guys to predict for me: Euro guys and undersized point guards. So difficult to project.

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