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"Kyrie for I.T. and Crowder about to go down"


          

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BRUHHHHH NAH FAM
Aug 22nd 2017
1
Hmmmm that's not too bad a deal
Aug 22nd 2017
2
If it's only IT and Crowder, the value depends solely on which picks
Aug 22nd 2017
3
Dear Lord, I don't ask for much.
Aug 22nd 2017
4
it's weird the two eastern conf champs are doing this
Aug 22nd 2017
5
CLE will receive BKN 2018 1st round pick
Aug 22nd 2017
6
WOW. That's a massive get for Cleveland.
Aug 22nd 2017
9
That's the only way it makes sense
Aug 22nd 2017
10
Cava don't have enough leverage to ask for 2 picks
Aug 22nd 2017
      Who thought they had the leverage to get the Nets 1st?
Aug 22nd 2017
21
           Since like you say IT is a 1 year rental they had to give up...
Aug 22nd 2017
25
                I wouldn't say that is a certainty though
Aug 22nd 2017
35
                     You think Gilbert continues to go into repeater tax for IT?
Aug 22nd 2017
47
                          It depends on various factors though
Aug 22nd 2017
96
RE: CLE will receive BKN 2018 1st round pick
Aug 22nd 2017
36
Brace for epic board-wide cursing out in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Aug 22nd 2017
7
Cleveland apparently wants Tatum too.
Aug 22nd 2017
8
IT'S DONE. Wow.
Aug 22nd 2017
11
WOJ WENT NUCLEAR
Aug 22nd 2017
12
Shams did it first (c) Ray J
Aug 23rd 2017
128
Now we gon see, niggas....all that bullshit y'all talk. We gon see...
Aug 22nd 2017
13
he can rely on IT to score in tight games
Aug 22nd 2017
14
this is why this is a perfect trade
Aug 22nd 2017
41
You know IT lead the league in 4th quarter scoring right?
Aug 22nd 2017
56
      he had the fuckin ball, nigga.
Aug 22nd 2017
57
           Kyrie didn't?
Aug 22nd 2017
67
                ah...no. he don't have to WAIT for the ball now.
Aug 22nd 2017
68
                     Kyrie #6 FGA in NBA bro...Bron #15
Aug 22nd 2017
69
                          my nigga....fuck them stats...Bron decides who gets the ball. Period.
Aug 22nd 2017
71
                          And the stats say Lebron decided Kyrie gets the ball
Aug 22nd 2017
74
                               that's correct...BRON decided. The fuck are you missing, dude?
Aug 22nd 2017
75
                                    here's what you're missing...Kyrie will never go to another Finals
Aug 22nd 2017
76
                                    here's what you're missing: y'all ben doubting him from JUMP
Aug 22nd 2017
78
                                         some of this stuff you are seriously making up
Aug 25th 2017
310
                                    you even lose basic logic arguments
Aug 22nd 2017
77
                                         my nigga, you tried this before. eat a dick.
Aug 22nd 2017
83
                          RE: Kyrie #6 FGA in NBA bro...Bron #15
Aug 22nd 2017
82
                               see #83....and Bron shot more in the playoffs.
Aug 22nd 2017
84
                                    Then Kyrie shot an airball...
Aug 22nd 2017
92
                                         it hit rim. get your facts straight.
Aug 22nd 2017
94
                                              Kyrie went 0-3 in the last 5 minutes of game 3, 0-6 in game 5 4th quarte...
Aug 22nd 2017
99
                                              and he STILL shoulda taken them shots. now what?
Aug 22nd 2017
101
                                                   So even if hurt, he should still get the ball more and shoot more? Why?
Aug 23rd 2017
113
                                                        that dunk try on 7-2 hibbert with trash ass hops wasn't a good shot
Aug 23rd 2017
121
                                                             Better than 54 year old Kidd or JR having the ball
Aug 23rd 2017
131
                                                                  uh huh....bye. i'm good.
Aug 23rd 2017
134
                                              Lmmfao...this shit hilarious cuz it's true!
Aug 23rd 2017
103
                                              AB, they actin like i don't be sitting there taking notes during games.....
Aug 23rd 2017
114
                                                   I mean, we peeped it out 2 yrs ago
Aug 23rd 2017
116
                                                        i was so mad. madder than i was game 1 of 2015.
Aug 23rd 2017
124
                                              THE KING AND KY!
Aug 29th 2017
347
Great deal for Cavs. That pick is everything. I do think Bron dips
Aug 22nd 2017
15
Oh Cle knows as well, this deal makes that evident
Aug 22nd 2017
20
lol danny ainge
Aug 22nd 2017
16
nets pick hurts a lot. A LOT.
Aug 22nd 2017
17
Really depends how bad the other teams are.
Aug 22nd 2017
19
Is BKN slated to be THAT bad?
Aug 22nd 2017
24
if injury free nets will be closer to 10 than 1
Aug 22nd 2017
29
Dallas will surprise you then.
Aug 22nd 2017
37
i was so ready for boston to run the league after getting 2 more top pic...
Aug 22nd 2017
28
You don't think Tatum is starting?
Aug 22nd 2017
22
no. he's off the bench
Aug 22nd 2017
31
To me Tatum is gonna be like Otto years 1 and 2
Aug 22nd 2017
54
      He's way better than Otto lol
Aug 22nd 2017
59
           Yes, yes he is
Aug 23rd 2017
105
Just glad you guys didn't offer it for PG to get that deal done
Aug 22nd 2017
23
Only if it's top 2. If it's not...garbage.
Aug 22nd 2017
27
hard to say. there had to be a pick in there
Aug 30th 2017
349
Warriors in 5
Aug 22nd 2017
18
Naw Issa sweep. They gonna play mouse in the house with isaiah
Aug 22nd 2017
33
makes the east way more interesting and the dubs are human
Aug 22nd 2017
38
      nga please.. they gon pull Bron's panties to the side again in 5
Aug 23rd 2017
202
Dammit.
Aug 22nd 2017
26
Opening Night Cle vs Bos LOL
Aug 22nd 2017
30
Hot FIYAAAAH!
Aug 23rd 2017
106
Bron or Bron's greatest teamate?
Aug 22nd 2017
32
Should make for an interesting ECF.
Aug 22nd 2017
34
Not gonna happen.
Aug 23rd 2017
204
Still waiting on that long term L
Aug 22nd 2017
39
GREAT move for Cleveland
Aug 22nd 2017
40
If Bron leaves they're fucked...
Aug 22nd 2017
42
No question, but for this one season they're still strong
Aug 22nd 2017
46
But even then, they've got the pieces to rebuild
Aug 23rd 2017
118
The question will all year be: how high is that pick?
Aug 22nd 2017
44
again, if it's not top 2....WHO CARES about that pick.
Aug 22nd 2017
45
shoutout to Koby Altmann...
Aug 22nd 2017
43
Trade is good for the Wiz.
Aug 22nd 2017
48
RE: Trade is good for the Wiz.
Aug 22nd 2017
55
Your man couldn't keep a Goomba in check to win a series
Aug 22nd 2017
61
      And he also doesn't have to deal with Bradley or Crowder.
Aug 22nd 2017
70
           Nah, he'll be dealing with Jaylen Brown big ass...good luck
Aug 22nd 2017
72
                Jaylen ain't nobody - YOU
Aug 23rd 2017
107
                     he gonna be a great defender. you mad?
Aug 23rd 2017
108
                          I don't spend much time thinking about nobodies. So...no.
Aug 23rd 2017
112
OOOOH WEE I GET TO HATE THE CELTS AGAIN!
Aug 22nd 2017
49
They can't, but the Cavs would be better off trading LeBron too
Aug 22nd 2017
50
Lebron has a no trade clause
Aug 22nd 2017
51
      One more reason it wouldn't happen, but if they could
Aug 22nd 2017
53
           If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle
Aug 22nd 2017
60
the cavs will trade that pick because the pressed for bron.
Aug 22nd 2017
52
Gilbert would be a fool to do it cuz Bron ain't staying...
Aug 22nd 2017
62
GET BARFPACKS ON THE PHONE
Aug 22nd 2017
64
WOWWWWW
Aug 22nd 2017
58
games better not be close.. or Kyrie gonna bust Bron ass.. lol
Aug 22nd 2017
games better not be close.. or Kyrie gonna bust Bron ass.. lol
Aug 22nd 2017
63
Hate giving up the Nets pick but otherwise like the deal. Now fail Laker...
Aug 22nd 2017
65
Adam Silver has to love the playoffs optics in this - Bron vs Kyrie lol
Aug 22nd 2017
66
optics
Aug 23rd 2017
111
So Boston made all those moves to lose to the Cavs again?
Aug 22nd 2017
73
Dumb nigga...this is Chess. WARRIORS are REPEATING this year.
Aug 22nd 2017
80
      LULZ...why does a young legend need molding?
Aug 22nd 2017
86
           hey fake laugher...you mad
Aug 22nd 2017
88
                not in the slightest...you nervous though
Aug 22nd 2017
90
                     great. looking forward to the season. bye.
Aug 22nd 2017
91
Boston still cant stop Bron.period. Ky jus went from bride to bridesmaid
Aug 22nd 2017
79
Warriors couldn't stop Bron either. y'all gon see.
Aug 22nd 2017
81
      so young legend's goal is 3rd or 4th place? L O L
Aug 22nd 2017
89
GOTDAMMIT... This is such a heartbreaking trade
Aug 22nd 2017
85
at least you see the truth. Brooklyn gon try to win EVERY game
Aug 22nd 2017
87
RE: Brooklyn gon try to win EVERY game
Aug 22nd 2017
93
      we'll see.
Aug 22nd 2017
95
LULZ @ "the center is redundant...
Aug 23rd 2017
158
Perused thread. Love the trade. It made the right people mad.
Aug 22nd 2017
97
they so mad he ain't go to a trash team. so fuckin mad.
Aug 22nd 2017
98
      not cysing the pick, could easily be in the 8-12 range
Aug 23rd 2017
141
Wow. Everyone won.
Aug 22nd 2017
100
pretty much. both teams needed to ditch their starting PG for diff reaso...
Aug 23rd 2017
102
yeah and when that happens the team with the better situation wins
Aug 23rd 2017
190
      eh. Cleveland loses if LeBron leaves.
Aug 23rd 2017
193
      lebron leaving/kyrie staying>lebron leaving/IT staying
Aug 24th 2017
219
      you could say they'dbe better off with kyrie
Aug 23rd 2017
197
musical chairs...
Aug 23rd 2017
104
Dubs in 5
Aug 23rd 2017
203
so real
Aug 23rd 2017
109
on the hush
Aug 23rd 2017
176
back to #11. this keeps getting better
Aug 23rd 2017
110
The C's are going to run the east as soon as Bron's gone
Aug 23rd 2017
115
Kyrie 25. His youth + his ceiling has ALWAYS been his biggest asset.
Aug 23rd 2017
117
that ain't the scary part
Aug 23rd 2017
120
      AB, he shows up at every stage of this agenda. i ain't worried.
Aug 23rd 2017
122
I don't know about all that, Boston just kicked the can down the road...
Aug 23rd 2017
119
shut up...enjoy danny using y'all pick next summer.
Aug 23rd 2017
123
didn't you say earlier picks outside the top 2 don't matter? lol
Aug 23rd 2017
136
      not for finding a FRANCHISE talent. try to keep up.
Aug 23rd 2017
138
hottest of hot takes
Aug 23rd 2017
126
really? Kyverson gonna help mold Brown + Tatum into NBA starters?
Aug 23rd 2017
127
brad stevens. this ain't inept cavs coaching no more. you mad?
Aug 23rd 2017
135
      Ky's gonna love it when Brad says stop dribbling + pass Gordon the ball
Aug 23rd 2017
157
           like ky loved it when he couldn't play off ball or love was gon be #2?
Aug 23rd 2017
161
                FOH Dame got that Billboard People's Choice award in his sights
Aug 23rd 2017
164
y'all think an awful lot of Jaylen Brown lol
Aug 23rd 2017
140
      yeah...we do. looked great in summer league.
Aug 23rd 2017
143
      lol
Aug 23rd 2017
146
      hey...you poplocked about the lakers summer league guys, right?
Aug 23rd 2017
147
           actually I didn't, that's the other Laker fans on the board
Aug 23rd 2017
152
      No he didn't which is a concern
Aug 23rd 2017
188
      i think he's a capable 3rd guy who should be an elite defender
Aug 23rd 2017
149
      he can be a nice little role player but saying he, Kyrie & Tatum will be...
Aug 23rd 2017
153
      JB can do a little of everything. Surprising is his jumper. He's coming
Aug 23rd 2017
156
Hayward is not overpaid and he still getting better.
Aug 23rd 2017
191
Thoughts
Aug 23rd 2017
125
completely missed Jaylen's role
Aug 23rd 2017
130
      ^^^I'm with TJT on this
Aug 23rd 2017
Said it before the trade.
Aug 23rd 2017
129
Them and the Bucks IMO (if they make the right moves)
Aug 23rd 2017
144
      agree and with those two orgs, that's a pretty big IF
Aug 26th 2017
329
Eh. They still don't have a top 10 player.
Aug 23rd 2017
132
      also, brown and Tatum should both start
Aug 23rd 2017
133
           the starting lineup is almost definitely this
Aug 23rd 2017
148
           You gotta get both wing prospects 25 minutes per game
Aug 23rd 2017
163
           I agree. In a perimeter oriented NBA, Tatum can play the 4.
Aug 23rd 2017
150
                Right, he can't be that much worse defensively than the lesser Morris...
Aug 23rd 2017
165
How long before he requests a trade out of BOS?
Aug 23rd 2017
137
right...like Kevin Love was the 2nd option?
Aug 23rd 2017
139
lol, Hayward will not be the face of the franchise over Kyrie
Aug 23rd 2017
142
nah, Boston fans will love him in a way Cleveland never did...
Aug 23rd 2017
145
      How live will it be first time Ky has Bron on him?
Aug 23rd 2017
151
      Man...
Aug 23rd 2017
154
      Well the first game is in Clev so Ky gonna get booooed the first time lo...
Aug 23rd 2017
159
           Ky's gonna sink that 3 and cup his hand around his ear, lmao.
Aug 23rd 2017
177
      Beat me to it
Aug 23rd 2017
155
Yo the boards will explode if The Celtics don't go to
Aug 23rd 2017
160
the board will no longer exist if the cavs don't.
Aug 23rd 2017
162
      Boards gonna explode regardless bc one of em ain't making the
Aug 23rd 2017
166
      CAVS already there bro, they just waiting for their opp
Aug 23rd 2017
183
This isn't the biggest aspect to the trade obviously
Aug 23rd 2017
167
yeah Boston's going to have 4 new starters, this is basically a whole...
Aug 23rd 2017
168
Wizards only real rival is the Hawks
Aug 23rd 2017
169
But who cares because the Celts-Cav rivalry will be LIT(as the kids say)
Aug 23rd 2017
170
lol right, only person who cared about that rivalry was john wall and th...
Aug 23rd 2017
171
Don't get me wrong.
Aug 23rd 2017
173
i guess but rivalries are only as good as the stakes and the teams
Aug 23rd 2017
180
      Nigga you're a Knicks fan. If you don't go sit ya dumbass down...
Aug 23rd 2017
181
           You talking bout knicks?
Aug 24th 2017
206
There was definitely no love lost between Wall and Crowder, it will be.....
Aug 23rd 2017
174
Of course
Aug 23rd 2017
172
      Nobody gives a fuck about Ray at this point, his biggest beefs are with....
Aug 23rd 2017
189
Wall vs Kyrie will be more of a thing
Aug 23rd 2017
182
Spears reporting Cavs offered Kyrie to Dubs for Klay
Aug 23rd 2017
175
Wouldn't make any sense for GS...
Aug 23rd 2017
178
none
Aug 23rd 2017
179
I would be PISSED if that ever happened.
Aug 24th 2017
240
I still don't know why the Celtics made this trade,
Aug 23rd 2017
184
because 25, champion, battle tested that can grow with young core
Aug 23rd 2017
185
yep, plus Danny got an out...
Aug 23rd 2017
186
how about this way of thinking about it
Aug 23rd 2017
187
obviously ainge didnt believe in IT
Aug 23rd 2017
192
right, Danny's punk ass got lucky again and had the perfect deal fall...
Aug 23rd 2017
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      luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
Aug 24th 2017
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           ^^^
Aug 24th 2017
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i mean... not really.
Aug 23rd 2017
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      yeah wtf?
Aug 24th 2017
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           some ppl for whatever reason hate to give ainge his due credit.
Aug 24th 2017
263
Does this signal more clearly that Bron is leaving next year?
Aug 23rd 2017
194
Combination of the three
Aug 23rd 2017
195
pretty much how i see it as well, nothing concrete here
Aug 23rd 2017
196
I assume if Bron leaves, IT is not getting resigned.
Aug 23rd 2017
199
It's tough to evaluate
Aug 24th 2017
223
I think Gilbert got one of his balls back
Aug 23rd 2017
201
I'm kinda shocked how much Cleveland got.
Aug 23rd 2017
205
Nah they gave up exactly what kyrie is worth
Aug 24th 2017
207
Celtics fans are classless
Aug 24th 2017
208
idiot fans are idiots, the org's smears are disgusting
Aug 24th 2017
210
RE: Celtics fans are classless
Aug 24th 2017
211
Olynyk and Sullinger call BS
Aug 24th 2017
212
      it's one idiot
Aug 24th 2017
214
Fair trade imo, but strange trading with rivals
Aug 24th 2017
209
it is but I think it was a unique situation where both teams were in a.....
Aug 24th 2017
213
      right, plus after this season, the will be going in different directions...
Aug 24th 2017
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      Agreed
Aug 24th 2017
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      agreed
Aug 25th 2017
298
Just 4 Celtics remain from the Eastern Conference finals team...:
Aug 24th 2017
215
this is risky as hell...lol
Aug 24th 2017
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right, its rare to see an contender turn their roster over like that in ...
Aug 24th 2017
227
      Let's not get hung up on the word "contender"
Aug 24th 2017
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           no arguments about that from me...
Aug 24th 2017
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                so why are you labeling them a contender
Aug 24th 2017
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                     They had the best record in the east and played in the conference finals...
Aug 24th 2017
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                          Where does this fit in the definition?
Aug 24th 2017
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                               So I guess the Cavs weren't contenders either?
Aug 24th 2017
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                                    no one picked the Celts to win the finals
Aug 24th 2017
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                                    Nobody picked Boston to have the best record in the east but they did.
Aug 24th 2017
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                                         Best of the East doesn't equal contender
Aug 24th 2017
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                                         I think by definition it does?
Aug 24th 2017
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                                         best record in the east means best record
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              toronto would have beaten them too.
Aug 24th 2017
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                                         RE: Best of the East doesn't equal contender
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              ehh.
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              its not even the same convo
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                   all of these people were probably predicting a first round upset
Aug 24th 2017
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                                         lol, did they overachieve or were they a contender?
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              right he's contradicting himself at every turn.
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              They can be both. The Mavericks were and overachieving champion.
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                   but if the Celts overachieved last year
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                        When did I say they would "overachieve more" with the same squad?
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                             That's literally the only way for them to be better
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                                  Lol right when his logic fails, he just contradicts himself
Aug 24th 2017
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                                    bro you going in circles contradicting yourself
Aug 24th 2017
245
                                         You don't seem to understand the difference between contender...
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              they weren't a real contender tho. i think that's his point.
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              right, people would have been more shocked if Bosston won the finals
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              RE: they weren't a real contender tho. i think that's his point.
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                   lol every GM would have made the moves that danny did
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                        RE: lol every GM would have made the moves that danny did
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                             That's not what ainge did
Aug 24th 2017
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                                                             ffs, he had that security because he already proved he's a good GM
Aug 24th 2017
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                                              nah a contender is a team with a legit chance at a chip.
Aug 24th 2017
250
                                                   So the Warriors are the only "contender" in the NBA according...
Aug 24th 2017
271
                                                        I cant call it yet this year.
Aug 24th 2017
285
Sounds crazy but when you look at who left...bleh
Aug 24th 2017
218
Right? Silly ass narrative already forming.
Aug 24th 2017
220
major infusion of talent.
Aug 24th 2017
222
I don't think its a reach to say that they might have taken a step back....
Aug 24th 2017
229
      If by short term you mean October -November and long term december on
Aug 24th 2017
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      because basketball games aren't played "on paper"...
Aug 24th 2017
237
           but that doesn't explain why you expect them to have a step back?
Aug 24th 2017
241
                IT was 1 the best offensive guards in the league, AB was 1 of the best.....
Aug 24th 2017
242
                     that's actually a valid opinion/analysis.
Aug 24th 2017
246
                          I thought the statements I made were common knowledge...
Aug 24th 2017
248
                               which statement? This whole back and forth came form you talking about
Aug 24th 2017
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                                    No again you just like arguing over stupid shit. To most thinking...
Aug 24th 2017
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                                         Yeah most people expect them to play better
Aug 24th 2017
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      RE: I don't think its a reach to say that they might have taken a step b...
Aug 24th 2017
262
pretty much
Aug 24th 2017
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      Rebounding is definitely still a problem
Aug 24th 2017
235
seems like a who fucking cares statement though
Aug 24th 2017
225
an entirely acceptable cost of acquiring 2 top 20 guys.
Aug 24th 2017
226
How many players you got in your Top 20?
Aug 24th 2017
257
20.
Aug 24th 2017
258
      LMAO
Aug 24th 2017
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RE: an entirely acceptable cost of acquiring 2 top 20 guys.
Aug 24th 2017
264
      #shruggums
Aug 24th 2017
266
           RE: #shruggums
Aug 24th 2017
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           But he's playing with a coach in a system that plays to his strengths
Aug 24th 2017
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                when they play the Cavs who's going to defend Bron and IT? When they...
Aug 24th 2017
282
                Jaylen and Smart primarily.
Aug 24th 2017
289
                RE: when they play the Cavs who's going to defend Bron and IT? When they...
Aug 24th 2017
290
                LOL...how lite?? Lets set aside white privilege in here please
Aug 24th 2017
293
                     Well, he did play in the Western Conference last season
Aug 25th 2017
302
                     i agree with you except one thing
Aug 25th 2017
304
                     "JOE JOHNSON WAS BETTER IN THE PLAYOFFS THO"
Aug 25th 2017
305
                     Are you trying to say Hayward is a better defender than Crowder & AB?
Aug 25th 2017
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                          No, I'm saying he's not a poor defender
Aug 25th 2017
309
                               well STFU and stop quoting dumbass irrelevant "advanced stats"...
Aug 25th 2017
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                                    I guess stats are dumb when you can't use them to your advantage
Aug 25th 2017
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                                         Quit throwing out bogus defensive stats like he didn't have the...
Aug 25th 2017
318
                     he was utah's best player, they won 51 games and a series in the west
Aug 25th 2017
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                          ya think???
Aug 25th 2017
313
           but, it does. That is exactly what it does.
Aug 24th 2017
294
                They traded for 2 all stars, not 2 All NBA guys
Aug 25th 2017
296
                Irving has an all-NBA selection on his resume
Aug 25th 2017
312
                you don't think much of hayward. you've made that clear.
Aug 25th 2017
299
                     aka you've watched him play and looked at his actual numbers
Aug 25th 2017
314
So? That team as constructed wasn't winning a chip
Aug 24th 2017
291
      damn I never said that it was lol
Aug 25th 2017
306
Celts gonna struggle on defense....
Aug 24th 2017
267
and only 1 dude who can get his own shot on the reg
Aug 24th 2017
295
Hayward can consistently get his own shot as well
Aug 25th 2017
303
lol, what?
Aug 25th 2017
315
GH is one of the best in the league at creating his own shot
Aug 26th 2017
323
there's, like, 3 teams who will be able to score with them dude
Aug 25th 2017
300
They think a lot of Jaylen Brown...We'll see. And Smart still there.
Aug 25th 2017
301
      I wouldn't surprised if Smart starts a the 2 to have another defender on...
Aug 25th 2017
307
           It'll be Brown more than likely starting at the 2
Aug 30th 2017
348
damn i was hoping that the knicks had a good* offer for mel
Aug 24th 2017
270
Ky Finals MVP incoming, give it 2-3 years
Aug 25th 2017
297
well well well....probs with the physical
Aug 25th 2017
319
damn that would be wild if they had to go back lol
Aug 25th 2017
320
If Boston wants this deal to go through then we need more from this deal
Aug 26th 2017
321
lol, no shit that would work for you
Aug 26th 2017
324
*voids trade*
Aug 26th 2017
326
      you are the only person in the world who sees this as a Cs steal
Aug 26th 2017
327
      if the cavs want another first round pick...i hope the celts void it
Aug 27th 2017
340
           I would only add one of their own picks for 2018 or 2019.
Aug 27th 2017
342
Lol fuck no
Aug 26th 2017
325
Look at this objectively
Aug 26th 2017
328
      Lol @ Look at this objectively, followed by
Aug 26th 2017
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      Literally everyone knew about his injury
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           RE: Literally everyone knew about his injury
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                Not "throw in Brown & Tatum" serious n/m
Aug 26th 2017
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                     RE: Not "throw in Brown & Tatum" serious n/m
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                          nope...void the deal if cleveland wants either...
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                          I would not add either if I were Boston. That'd be ludicrous.
Aug 27th 2017
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                               Agreed, at best add in a much lower pick
Aug 28th 2017
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are you saying current package plus two more things?
Aug 26th 2017
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RE: If Boston wants this deal to go through then we need more from this ...
Aug 26th 2017
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TRANSLATION: Throw in Tatum or take this crippled midget back!
Aug 26th 2017
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RE: well well well....probs with the physical
Aug 26th 2017
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Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
Aug 28th 2017
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Fear the deer???!!!
Aug 26th 2017
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what would they be giving up though?
Aug 27th 2017
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Milwakee can put a deal together that could be better
Aug 28th 2017
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      Brogdon, Monroe and Jabari would be a great deal for both teams
Aug 30th 2017
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           the numbers don't match there, like, at all
Aug 30th 2017
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                Im imagining Tristan coming back
Aug 30th 2017
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cle/bos done deal. Boston throws in a 2020 2nd rd pick
Aug 30th 2017
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Well that was anti-climactic
Aug 30th 2017
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MEH, the Bucks deal was better for the team long-term.
Aug 30th 2017
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lol, you're STILL the only one who thinks this was bad for CLE n/m
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      lol I can't tell if he is kidding
Aug 31st 2017
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Good for Boston to draw the line where they did.
Aug 30th 2017
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      yeah, that was never happening.
Aug 31st 2017
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Additional 2nd rounder headed ro cle
Aug 30th 2017
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^^^ peep the new storyline about a rift with HC Lue...
Jan 03rd 2018
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everybody happy. good.
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I like him a lot, hope he prospers. Should be a great ECF
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BrooklynWHAT
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1. "BRUHHHHH NAH FAM"
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2. "Hmmmm that's not too bad a deal"
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I mean, they'd essentially end up with Wade, IT, and Crowder and lose just Kyrie who didn't want to be there anyway. For the C's it's not even a ton to get rid of and for Rie I like it. Ainges best move since...

Plus they have more picks then they need and c'mon, they were putting up more for PG no?

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3. "If it's only IT and Crowder, the value depends solely on which picks "
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IT is a UFA so he's gone next season w Lebron leaving, Crowder is a solid role-player but won't move the needle for a rebuilding team.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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4. "Dear Lord, I don't ask for much."
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But if I can have Kyrie and Tatum on a Brad-coached team? I'd go to church every Sunday.

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5. "it's weird the two eastern conf champs are doing this"
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but there are clear reasons why each side would want this deal.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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6. "CLE will receive BKN 2018 1st round pick"
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https://twitter.com/mcten/status/900134744553385989

CLE will receive BKN 2018 1st round pick - unprotected - from BOS in the trade that is currently being discussed, league source tells ESPN

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9. "WOW. That's a massive get for Cleveland."
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10. "That's the only way it makes sense "
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I'd argue it only makes sense if it's that pick + another. Like I said above, IT is a 1 year rental and Crowder doesn't move the needle for a rebuild...so you have to get multiple long-term assets in exchange for a star entering his prime who is on a cost controlled deal.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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"Cava don't have enough leverage to ask for 2 picks"


          

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21. "Who thought they had the leverage to get the Nets 1st? "
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Clearly Ainge wanted Kyrie and his cost controlled deal badly. Regardless, good compromise with Zizic.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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25. "Since like you say IT is a 1 year rental they had to give up..."
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SOMETHING to sweeten the deal.

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35. "I wouldn't say that is a certainty though"
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I get the reasoning behind it but I don't know if that's the case. Either way they get a replacement, another player for their rotation and a high pick here. Pretty good haul all things considered. I think George/Bledsoe or Booker/Bledsoe were better potential hauls but those were just rumors, I don't think the other parties ever went for them.

I get this deal from Boston's perspective but it's a lot to give up to basically stabilize production. Irving is going to give them what Thomas did last year more or less, but he is more reliable to keep doing it from both a talent perspective and a consistency perspective.

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47. "You think Gilbert continues to go into repeater tax for IT?"
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Lol cmon, this one is pretty obvious. It's a 1 year rental for contention, you get good to great future assets, and then significant cap relief as you rebuild...checks all the boxes for Cleveland.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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96. "It depends on various factors though"
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LeBron or no LeBron, can they clear other contracts, etc.

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36. "RE: CLE will receive BKN 2018 1st round pick"
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>https://twitter.com/mcten/status/900134744553385989
>
>CLE will receive BKN 2018 1st round pick - unprotected - from
>BOS in the trade that is currently being discussed, league
>source tells ESPN

Wow...That's a BIG pick......Getting that for Kyrie is a coup.....

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7. "Brace for epic board-wide cursing out in 5, 4, 3, 2..."
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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8. "Cleveland apparently wants Tatum too."
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If so, I don't know if I'd do that trade if I were the Celts.

I'd be kinda iffy on including the '18 Brooklyn pick.

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11. "IT'S DONE. Wow."
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12. "WOJ WENT NUCLEAR"
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13. "Now we gon see, niggas....all that bullshit y'all talk. We gon see..."
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I cannot WAIT to see Bron complaining about what fucking trash he's dealing with then tham games get tight and he can't depend on another scorer. CANNOT FUCKING WAIT.

cannot to see that goomba pout about not having the fuckin ball all the time. let's see how that works.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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14. "he can rely on IT to score in tight games"
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41. "this is why this is a perfect trade"
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56. "You know IT lead the league in 4th quarter scoring right?"
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57. "he had the fuckin ball, nigga. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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67. "Kyrie didn't?"
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68. "ah...no. he don't have to WAIT for the ball now. "
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let's see IT do all that 4th quarter shit with bron.

oh.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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69. "Kyrie #6 FGA in NBA bro...Bron #15"
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So if Lebron passes up the big shot you're mad but if Kyrie doesn't get the ball you're mad.

Make up your mind.

  

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71. "my nigga....fuck them stats...Bron decides who gets the ball. Period. "
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____________________________________________________


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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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74. "And the stats say Lebron decided Kyrie gets the ball "
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You really are dumb as fuck just to push your agenda huh?

  

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75. "that's correct...BRON decided. The fuck are you missing, dude? "
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when BRON *decides* IT ain't scoring all them damn points in the 4th this year, then what?

Cuz KYRIE *deciding* who gettin the ball in Boston and when he leads the league in 4th quarter scoring, then what?

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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76. "here's what you're missing...Kyrie will never go to another Finals"
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78. "here's what you're missing: y'all ben doubting him from JUMP"
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and you keep fucking losing and you don't have the fucking integrity or good sense to jump off the fucking train.

he mo williams

he not an all-star type

he won't show in the playoffs

he won't mesh with Bron

he'll be third option behind Bron and Love

then, you REALLY showed your asses and reset shit, like "But he couldn't do all that before Bron got there"

fuckin hoes.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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310. "some of this stuff you are seriously making up"
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or pulling from one-off opinions.

this exchange was a bad look in fact the whole approach to this trade has been unusual other than a couple not-so-slick attempts to lower the bar considerably for kyrie and raise it slightly for the cavs.

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77. "you even lose basic logic arguments"
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Like, you are so blinded by unhealthy stannery you can't even process facts and logical arguments.

It is really weird. It is especially weird because Kyrie is good enough that you really don't have to do all this flailing about, deflection, and goal-post moving.

Yet, you do. Every time. Without fail.

It will never not be weird how emotionally invested you are in another man's perceived success.

You can't even process facts because of it.



  

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83. "my nigga, you tried this before. eat a dick."
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you emotionally invested in my posting. THAT shit is weird to me.

and there's no fallacy in Bron decided who was doing what with the ball in the 4th, champ. trotting FGA attemps, which occur in ALL quarters, and STILL doesn't quantify touches and time of possession, was a useless exercise.

dumb ass.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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82. "RE: Kyrie #6 FGA in NBA bro...Bron #15"
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4th quarter field goal attempts:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_id=2017&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=N&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=12&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&order_by=fga

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84. "see #83....and Bron shot more in the playoffs. "
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and Bron DECIDED who did what with the ball in the 4th was never more evident than when he hogged away the lead in the last 3 minutes of game 3, when he passed to korver and short-armed jumpers on 3 straight possessions.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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92. "Then Kyrie shot an airball..."
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94. "it hit rim. get your facts straight. "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afPxnbxYfWY

"oh, let me pull up with my same lame ass tight buttcheek jumper i been showing everytime there's a tight game in the finals"

"i can do this! i'mma try again."

"oh shit...lemme calculate...who our best shooter? boo beep bop beep...oh yeah...KORVER...here kyle...OH NO!!!"

"DAMN KD CAME THROUGHT....I'm SCARED...give it to kyrie now...fuck that shit. nobody ain't blaming me for this shit"

maybe he shoulda had 4 tries, instead of a nigga coming up empty tryna outsmart muhfuckas instead of just getting a FUCKING BUCKET.

fuck outta here, dogg!

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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99. "Kyrie went 0-3 in the last 5 minutes of game 3, 0-6 in game 5 4th quarte..."
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Act like he didn't shoot that dumb ass step back 3 down 1 with 30 seconds left in game 3.

http://youtu.be/mDQ-nrH0H7E

  

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Basaglia
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101. "and he STILL shoulda taken them shots. now what? "
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and he was hurt in game 5 on a drive and came lame. wasn't effective after. but we covered that. melo shoulder mattered when he HOED up empty in the 4th MULTIPLE times against Indy in 2013, but THIS...this different.

i know.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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DJR
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113. "So even if hurt, he should still get the ball more and shoot more? Why?"
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He went 0-6. Maybe that would've been the time to pass the fuckin ball?

That stepback in game 3 wasn't a good shot either.

  

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121. "that dunk try on 7-2 hibbert with trash ass hops wasn't a good shot"
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you'll be aight.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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131. "Better than 54 year old Kidd or JR having the ball"
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Bron decided who got the ball because Bron better with the ball. They both came up short in some key spots. Better team was going to win, regardless.

  

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Basaglia
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134. "uh huh....bye. i'm good. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

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103. "Lmmfao...this shit hilarious cuz it's true! "
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114. "AB, they actin like i don't be sitting there taking notes during games....."
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i knew when bron came back, BLAME was gon be a big part of the deal. it is deadass NEVER bron fault. never.

i swear if kyrie every averaged 17 in a finals like bron dude and came up THAT small, i would seriously leave the board. i'd be disgusted. i wouldn't deserve to say a word.

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116. "I mean, we peeped it out 2 yrs ago"
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Kyrie needed to own the last 3-4 minutes of a game. Bron was supposed to do his all-around thing during that time to compliment it. Rebound, play D, pass the ball. When he did it in 2016, he held the warriors in check and Kyrie finished them off.

He completely changed the program this year cuz of KD. He took that matchup personal. But KD wasn't having it. He matched Bron play for play all game and then outplayed him at the end by making better decisions and clutch shots.

I laughed hard at your post because ALL of that happened and I was thinking exactly what you typed when it happened. I was telling the wifey Bron was shook after KD dropped a few buckets in his grill. We laughed.

Rie got his shot now man. Sit back, watch, enjoy and fight the good fight. My Bulls are tanking for Bagley/Porter so all I can do is hope Lauri looks something like Dirk and enjoy this epic drama y'all gonna have all season. lol

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124. "i was so mad. madder than i was game 1 of 2015. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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347. "THE KING AND KY!"
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afPxnbxYfWY
>
>"oh, let me pull up with my same lame ass tight buttcheek
>jumper i been showing everytime there's a tight game in the
>finals"
>
>"i can do this! i'mma try again."
>
>"oh shit...lemme calculate...who our best shooter? boo beep
>bop beep...oh yeah...KORVER...here kyle...OH NO!!!"
>
>"DAMN KD CAME THROUGHT....I'm SCARED...give it to kyrie
>now...fuck that shit. nobody ain't blaming me for this shit"
>
>maybe he shoulda had 4 tries, instead of a nigga coming up
>empty tryna outsmart muhfuckas instead of just getting a
>FUCKING BUCKET.
>
>fuck outta here, dogg!

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2552413&mesg_id=2552413&listing_type=search

^^^ couldn't stand the reign


<----- Long Live The King

  

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15. "Great deal for Cavs. That pick is everything. I do think Bron dips"
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after this year, Finals or not.

Not mad at either team.

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20. "Oh Cle knows as well, this deal makes that evident "
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Allows them to be competitive for 1 more year while getting 2 future assets and clearing their books (IT and Bron both UFA)

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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16. "lol danny ainge"
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17. "nets pick hurts a lot. A LOT."
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wow. really wish they had been able to give up the lakers/sac pick instead.

kyrie/hayward/jaylen/morris/horford

really resolves the problem next year when IT was up for a max contract but damn. damn.
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19. "Really depends how bad the other teams are."
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It's a deep deep draft.

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24. "Is BKN slated to be THAT bad?"
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I was impressed with some of their games last year.
They won't be worse than any of these teams:

Chicago
Orlando
Indiana
Dallas
Phoenix

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29. "if injury free nets will be closer to 10 than 1"
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in lottery odds --not actual lottery results

---
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icecold21
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37. "Dallas will surprise you then."
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They are WAY better than BK.

And BK is still pretty terrible.

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28. "i was so ready for boston to run the league after getting 2 more top pic..."
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in that draft. so ready.
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22. "You don't think Tatum is starting?"
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>wow. really wish they had been able to give up the lakers/sac
>pick instead.
>
>kyrie/hayward/jaylen/morris/horford
>
>really resolves the problem next year when IT was up for a max
>contract but damn. damn.

You have to give up something to get something

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31. "no. he's off the bench"
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maybe will supplant jaylen, but that year of nba play matters. by midseason he'll be getting 25-30 minutes. starter or not kinda irrelevant.

unless boston goes small and puts Tatum at the 4. but i don't think that's a smart move there.

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54. "To me Tatum is gonna be like Otto years 1 and 2"
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Will play off the bench and establish himself as a starter.

  

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59. "He's way better than Otto lol"
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________________________________________
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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105. "Yes, yes he is"
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23. "Just glad you guys didn't offer it for PG to get that deal done "
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I'm pretty positive that after a year of contending again, he re-signs there.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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L D E A

  

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Basaglia
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27. "Only if it's top 2. If it's not...garbage. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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349. "hard to say. there had to be a pick in there"
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we'll see how it all shakes out, we are talking about non-playoff teams. no idea how hard they will compete or if an injury will take them from a 30 to 20 win season or vice versa.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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18. "Warriors in 5"
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This makes the East less boring though. Cavs-Celtics in the playoffs will be a lot of fun.

  

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33. "Naw Issa sweep. They gonna play mouse in the house with isaiah"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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38. "makes the east way more interesting and the dubs are human"
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they can get injuries and/or slumps like anyone else

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202. "nga please.. they gon pull Bron's panties to the side again in 5 "
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and that mouse ain't gone do shit but get abused on D.. Even Steph gonna post his midget ass... lol
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
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26. "Dammit."
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Well, I'll always have 2016

  

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30. "Opening Night Cle vs Bos LOL"
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106. "Hot FIYAAAAH!"
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32. "Bron or Bron's greatest teamate?"
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34. "Should make for an interesting ECF."
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Not sweating it otherwise.

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204. "Not gonna happen."
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Raps will beat Celtics in the secound round.

  

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39. "Still waiting on that long term L "
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Lol

Celtics lost

  

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40. "GREAT move for Cleveland"
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Even assuming Bron leaves, they get a likely high pick in 2018 and the chance to either build around that & IT or let IT go. All for a guy who made no secret of wanting out and it doesn't even hurt then for this year?

Great job by Dilbert's pool guy or whoever Cleveland's GM is now.

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ThaTruth
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42. "If Bron leaves they're fucked..."
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>Even assuming Bron leaves, they get a likely high pick in
>2018 and the chance to either build around that & IT or let IT
>go. All for a guy who made no secret of wanting out and it
>doesn't even hurt then for this year?
>
>Great job by Dilbert's pool guy or whoever Cleveland's GM is
>now.

It's a total rebuild at that point may as with let IT walk and trade Love

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46. "No question, but for this one season they're still strong"
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While Boston needed to get Crowder out of Brown and Tatum's way, he should be a great addition for Cleveland.

Kyrie is a better option long term for multiple reasons, but he wanted out anyway. Him and Thomas were basically on the same level last year. If Thomas is healthy and can come close to doing that again, Cleveland should still have a great chance to win the East.

Once LeBron leaves, it's a complete rebuild and they better hope Brooklyn doesn't show some life.

  

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118. "But even then, they've got the pieces to rebuild"
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All for a guy who HAD to go this year

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44. "The question will all year be: how high is that pick?"
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If it's #1? Win for Cavs.
If it's lower than, say, 7? Or if it's lower than the Celtics' highest pick? Win for Celtics.

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45. "again, if it's not top 2....WHO CARES about that pick. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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43. "shoutout to Koby Altmann..."
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the homie (c)Bomani

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48. "Trade is good for the Wiz. "
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Celtics don't have Avery, Crowder, or I.T.?

They're kinda creampuffs now.

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55. "RE: Trade is good for the Wiz. "
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Basaglia
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61. "Your man couldn't keep a Goomba in check to win a series"
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just shut up. he gettin 40+ for the whole series. Period.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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70. "And he also doesn't have to deal with Bradley or Crowder."
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He putting up 35/18/8/5 all series man. And B.B. getting 40.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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72. "Nah, he'll be dealing with Jaylen Brown big ass...good luck"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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107. "Jaylen ain't nobody - YOU "
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https://twitter.com/HotFiyaStarter/status/883383452816560128

Stop reaching.

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108. "he gonna be a great defender. you mad?"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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112. "I don't spend much time thinking about nobodies. So...no."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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49. "OOOOH WEE I GET TO HATE THE CELTS AGAIN!"
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50. "They can't, but the Cavs would be better off trading LeBron too"
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They'd of course get an amazing return even with Bron on a rental and next year should be a deep draft.

He's likely to walk for nothing and they're evidently prepared for that.

The risk is willingly trading a top 3 all time player and the guy that brought a chip to CLEVELAND(!) when there is still a chance he could stay, meanwhile facing tremendous backlash from fans and putting incredible pressure on whoever the rerun ends up being...

...but if you take the emotion out of it, it makes sense.

It would take HUGE balls by this new GM plus Gilbert would never sign off on it, so there's no way it happens outside of Bron telling the Cavs privately he's out, which he'd never do.

But imagine the assets they'd get, plus dumping Love too.

If a rebuild is looking inevitable and the odds of another chip looking slim to none in the next few years, its a logical risk to take.

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51. "Lebron has a no trade clause"
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Ball size is irrelevant

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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53. "One more reason it wouldn't happen, but if they could"
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they'd be better off

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60. "If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle"
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________________________________________
"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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52. "the cavs will trade that pick because the pressed for bron."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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62. "Gilbert would be a fool to do it cuz Bron ain't staying..."
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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64. "GET BARFPACKS ON THE PHONE"
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said it won't be looong
how bout robin lopez
we all know wade is gone

  

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58. "WOWWWWW"
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HOLYSHITTTT

  

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LegacyNS
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"games better not be close.. or Kyrie gonna bust Bron ass.. lol"


  

          


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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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63. "games better not be close.. or Kyrie gonna bust Bron ass.. lol"
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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65. "Hate giving up the Nets pick but otherwise like the deal. Now fail Laker..."
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66. "Adam Silver has to love the playoffs optics in this - Bron vs Kyrie lol"
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111. "optics"
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________________________________________
"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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73. "So Boston made all those moves to lose to the Cavs again?"
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Anyone who doesn't drift to sleep staring at his Kyrie ceiling poster knows the Cavs won this deal.

They gave up their heart & soul, Jae, and a prized "asset" for...a-slightly-more-talented-than-IT-chucker?


Oh, and I guess Hayward won't sweat any hair gel in his eyes as he watches Irving go for 40 every night.

Dude is going to f*ck around and put up lower numbers than in Utah.


LOL Ainge LOL


Where is McHale when you need him to bend over?

  

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Basaglia
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80. "Dumb nigga...this is Chess. WARRIORS are REPEATING this year. "
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When the Cavs looking at drafting fucking Nick Richard at #8 or some shit (because Brooklyn not gon be worse than like 10 teams...watch...that's what Ainge weight...Brooklyn pick or Lakers pick...East or West trash team), then we gon see.

the end game is BUILDING to compete with the Warriors. Celtics got better. Cavs made a lateral move...AT BEST....for one measly ass season, because Bron is out.

it's clear you niggas ain't considered shit and just ran up in here flapping your fuckin teeth padders. check the draft assets. boston is SET, with a 25 year-old PG that Stevens can mold and help reach another level.

oh, i know...he win't reach another level. only steph, lowry, russ, wall, IT, Conley can get better after 25.

y'all so fuckin mad.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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86. "LULZ...why does a young legend need molding?"
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Either way...

My point (and others, I'm sure) the Celts could have put together a much BETTER contender than this.

They had all these pieces...all this cap room...and blew it all on Hayward and Irving.

L O L

Who are they going to guard?


Oh wait, your goal is second place and you stan harder for a pretty good career more than anyone we have ever seen.

  

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88. "hey fake laugher...you mad"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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90. "not in the slightest...you nervous though"
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too much in the world to be mad at other than sports, dog.


But, we can all see you shook.

No hiding behind Bron now. No deflecting.


None of that.


Your man crush is the man on a legit contender now.

He was traded for someone you consider vastly inferior, correct?


So the Celts should run it. Right up until the finals. No moving your goal post.

  

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91. "great. looking forward to the season. bye. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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79. "Boston still cant stop Bron.period. Ky jus went from bride to bridesmaid"
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------------------------------------
2019 CABG Survivor

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be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

  

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81. "Warriors couldn't stop Bron either. y'all gon see. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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89. "so young legend's goal is 3rd or 4th place? L O L "
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This is what I'm saying.

You are so emotionally wrapped up in how folks perceive Kyrie, you talk straight nonsense and this board lets you get away with it.

You predicting finals right today or no?

OR


Is losing to Bron, who then loses to GSW, is a W for you?


Oh wait, you're banking on a Horford/Hayward future? hahahahaha


And you are in here big upping the GM???


Is McHale around to fold for him and I don't know about it?


Ainge just blew his summer on walking hair gel and your chucking young legend.


Unless there are other ex-Celts out there I don't know about waiting to hook this weasel up, ya'll ain't going further.

Congratulations...?

"Chess" lol lol

Enjoy your new Celts gear.

  

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85. "GOTDAMMIT... This is such a heartbreaking trade"
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WHY in the blue fuck did we have to trade Ky to Boston?

*looks at haul*

Fuck this trade because IT is a rental, that center is redundant given our roster, Crowder is cool, and that first round pick is a given who we gave up.

I'd rather have Jayson Tatum, Crowder, and the 1. We got fucked and Boston is now coming out of the east. I have zero confidence in contract year Bron doing his best to remain in Cleveland. These are the type of BS decisions your team makes when your owner is a Trump supporter.

All he had to do was keep Griff and none of this shit would've happened. Keep Griff, Ky stays, and we get PG or someone else. Instead we fire Griff, trade Ky, sign DRose, and get a bag of flashlights for Ky.

It wasn't supposed to end like this. I am not overreacting because y'all don't realize how bad Ky about to wreck shit with Brad Stevens. The criteria for Ky's success without Bron still stands.

  

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87. "at least you see the truth. Brooklyn gon try to win EVERY game"
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all these fuckin teams tanking. bulls, pacers, orlando, hawks, knicks, pistons...

that's just the east.

that pick will be low lottery.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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93. "RE: Brooklyn gon try to win EVERY game"
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except they not....they wont win hardly any...they got NOBODY...are u freaking serious?

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95. "we'll see. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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158. "LULZ @ "the center is redundant..."
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given our roster". You mean the great, Walter Tavares? Dude, they list Love, TT and Channing as centers. Why you think they were so hurt about Bogut's leg exploding...and worked out Larry Sanders??? Who gives a shit if IT is a rental? You pick up Wade sometime around January like everyone knows they will. You got Rose coming off the bench. Crowder is a big, physical wing that can hit threes. Cleveland is winning the East...stop it with this shit, man. They can now throw more dudes at Golden State...and that's what it's all about.

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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97. "Perused thread. Love the trade. It made the right people mad."
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I think there are a lot of assumptions in here about Cleveland's end of the deal. Boston got the concrete chip but they paid a pretty steep price for stability. Then again they had too many assets if anything, plus they got an extra pick that made this one potentially expendable. Overall their offseason has been great. Cleveland needed a way to get deeper and restock a future asset, they did it, also at a high price. I think they got what they needed here. Bigger picture though, Boston wins this summer because net draft picks they are even (and potentially ahead in terms of position), they got Hayward who is an even better signing than he appears IMHO and now they get a guy who can do what Thomas did last year for several years.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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98. "they so mad he ain't go to a trash team. so fuckin mad. "
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now, everybody sittin here tryna cyse a pick that's gon be colin sexton or some shit.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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141. "not cysing the pick, could easily be in the 8-12 range"
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that said if they had to make a move, given this situation, this one is OK. i wasn't really referring to you with the mad comment, but thanks for lumping yourself in.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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100. "Wow. Everyone won."
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Great trade for everyone except the other teams in the east.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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102. "pretty much. both teams needed to ditch their starting PG for diff reaso..."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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190. "yeah and when that happens the team with the better situation wins"
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sometimes we see trades where one side wins the trade in a strict sense. like they get more out of the deal, but the other team gets exactly what they need and they win the trade bigger picture.

that is probably what will happen here. if this was a fantasy trade last season, makes zero sense for boston, but IRL they solidify themselves now and going forward. they had such an accumulation of assets that they could pay a lot to tailor things to their need.

if cleveland loses IT in a year it will be a huge win for boston.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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193. "eh. Cleveland loses if LeBron leaves."
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that's their win/loss situation.

if LeBron leaves I assume they cut IT loose anyway and go into full teardown mode.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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219. "lebron leaving/kyrie staying&gt;lebron leaving/IT staying"
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the pick is a wild card, who knows if the nets will suck as bad this year and they also have some suck competition still. sixers and lakers may not tank as hard but teams like indy went into rebuilds.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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197. "you could say they'dbe better off with kyrie"
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(assuming he wanted to stay)

but a year from now, is he really pulling much extra over the (decent first rounder) pick that outweighs having crowder now

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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104. "musical chairs..."
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..lol.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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203. "Dubs in 5"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Basaglia
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109. "so real"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5meTghXog

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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176. "on the hush"
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that "mamba man" part is kinda funny

just random and outta nowhere

  

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Basaglia
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110. "back to #11. this keeps getting better"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH6I1Q-WsAA34-f.jpg:large

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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115. "The C's are going to run the east as soon as Bron's gone"
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And it might start this year.

Kyrie/Smart/Rozier
Hayward/Bird/Nader (though I'd bet Rozier is the backup PG and Smart as the back up SG)
Brown/Tatum
Morris/Yabusele
Horford/Baynes

Lakers pick, Kings pick

Lakers pick will probably be top 5-7 so they are probably going big with one of the young C's coming out unless they luck up with 1-2. That will set them up for the future well. You're probably looking at Kyrie/Hayward/Tatum/Horford/Bamba or Ayton or Bagley if they're lucky. And they 3-4 years before they have to make a hard financial decision but even then, Horford is 30+, so they'll have some wiggle room.

The Cavs on the other hand should just go all in on 2017/18 and then prepare (well) for the dumpster fire of it's aftermath.

IT/Rose
Wade (picked up after buy out)/JR/Korver
Bron/Shumpert/RJ
Love/Crowder/Jeff Green(lol)
Tristan/Zizic/Frye

This team is deeper than last years and probably get along better with Wade+Bron. They probably edge the C's in 6-7 games and lose to the Warriors in 5-6 games.

Next season:
PG?!?!?!
JR/!?!?!
Crowder/!?!??!?!
Love/?!?!?!
Tristan/Zizic

Maybe you move Tristan for picks and draft a PG in next summer's draft? My assumption is, if the BK pick is top 5 they are going big anyway.

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Basaglia
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117. "Kyrie 25. His youth + his ceiling has ALWAYS been his biggest asset. "
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big improvement better after 25...

Lowry
Steph
Conley
Wall
Russ


I could go one. Kyrie been giving ALL of them the business and already got a ring and had his championship mettle tested repeatedly and SHOWED every time.

and now he gets to be coached by a top 3 coach.

they sooooooo mad.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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120. "that ain't the scary part"
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Rie gonna hit his prime, we know. Barring injury, he coming.

The scary part to me is Tatum+Brown+Lakers pick.

If they get Bagley...maaaan, listen.

And even if they don't, the kings might still suck in 2019 so Ainge get another shot at it. Or don't let something stupid happen like NO suck, Cuz leave and they blow it up and trade Brow to the C's for future assets.

Bruh.

So first class org with keen/smart front office, top young coach (top 3 by your assertion) and tons of talent around him.

Rie got his shot. Now he gotta deliver. But you know, if he don't blow by the time he 29...they coming for you B.

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Basaglia
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122. "AB, he shows up at every stage of this agenda. i ain't worried. "
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he better than mo williams

he become a perennial all-star when MOST dudes on here said he'd make about TWO.

be became one of the best playoff performers when MOST dudes laughed and said he wasn't ready for that level.

why would i worry about how good he'll become under such a great coach?

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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119. "I don't know about all that, Boston just kicked the can down the road..."
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another year.

Instead of have to make a decision on giving a talented but flawed guard a max deal next summer they get to do it a year later. When Horford's deal is up also. They'll already have an overpaid Heyward about to turn 30. Tatum will be ready to bounce.


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123. "shut up...enjoy danny using y'all pick next summer. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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136. "didn't you say earlier picks outside the top 2 don't matter? lol"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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138. "not for finding a FRANCHISE talent. try to keep up. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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126. "hottest of hot takes"
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when Hayward is 30, the cap will have risen and horford will be a great 1 year trade option if needed. or he'll still be a valuable contributor.

but by then, hayward and horford should be options 4 and 5 on a team w/ Rie, Tatum, Brown as their core three + whoever they get with that pick.

  

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127. "really? Kyverson gonna help mold Brown + Tatum into NBA starters?"
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fuego indeed

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HOPE!
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https://vine.co/v/i7JtqEFwxDu

  

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135. "brad stevens. this ain't inept cavs coaching no more. you mad?"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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157. "Ky's gonna love it when Brad says stop dribbling + pass Gordon the ball"
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at least we can all rest easy knowing Boston fans will react coolly and calmly when Horford's numbers crater further and Stephen A. starts calling Tatum a bust cuz he can't get more than 6 shots a game.

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161. "like ky loved it when he couldn't play off ball or love was gon be #2?"
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you mad. and dame never winning anything.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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164. "FOH Dame got that Billboard People's Choice award in his sights"
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HOPE!
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https://vine.co/v/i7JtqEFwxDu

  

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140. "y'all think an awful lot of Jaylen Brown lol"
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________________________________________
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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143. "yeah...we do. looked great in summer league. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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146. "lol"
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147. "hey...you poplocked about the lakers summer league guys, right?"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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152. "actually I didn't, that's the other Laker fans on the board"
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https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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188. "No he didn't which is a concern "
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He didn't show any offensive skill expansion of his game and reverted to relying on his athleticism. It's not going to matter much in the next 2 years bc playing for Boston allows him to play to his strengths (defensive focus, transition and cutting offensively plus set jumpers) but if he's asked to expand his offensive game, he hasn't shown much in that regard.

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<--The drought is over

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149. "i think he's a capable 3rd guy who should be an elite defender"
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the defender part is pretty much a given. as long as he's not creating his own shot too often--and he wouldnt with kyrie + tatum there with him, he should be quality.

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153. "he can be a nice little role player but saying he, Kyrie & Tatum will be..."
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Boston's "big 3" with Heyward and Horford as 4th and 5th options is kind of comical lol

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156. "JB can do a little of everything. Surprising is his jumper. He's coming"
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191. "Hayward is not overpaid and he still getting better."
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To say IT and Kyrie are both "talented but flawed guards," eh, i mean it's true in a threshold sense but given the choice between the two anyone would take irving. and i say that as a guy who isn't a huge fan of his and really likes IT, nothing sentimental or agendafied there

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125. "Thoughts"
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>And it might start this year.
>
>Kyrie/Smart/Rozier
>Hayward/Bird/Nader (though I'd bet Rozier is the backup PG and
>Smart as the back up SG)
>Brown/Tatum
>Morris/Yabusele
>Horford/Baynes
The Celtics have a FORMIDABLE starting lineup. However, their bench is weak. I wouldn't start Brown over Tatum, because I think Brown's pretty garbage. At best, he'll be an athletic wing that can't do anything but drive.
The Celtics lost most of their defensive players, so I don't think they'll be as tough as they were last year.

>Lakers pick, Kings pick
>
>Lakers pick will probably be top 5-7 so they are probably
>going big with one of the young C's coming out unless they
>luck up with 1-2. That will set them up for the future well.
>You're probably looking at Kyrie/Hayward/Tatum/Horford/Bamba
>or Ayton or Bagley if they're lucky. And they 3-4 years
>before they have to make a hard financial decision but even
>then, Horford is 30+, so they'll have some wiggle room.
If that's the case and the Lakers pick is that high, then I'll concede the first point. If not, I think Boston can be challenged.


>The Cavs on the other hand should just go all in on 2017/18
>and then prepare (well) for the dumpster fire of it's
>aftermath.
The Cavs are in win now mode. There's no excuse for Lebron (especially considering if Wade signs on). Dude has IT AND Rose (who had a solid year, eff the pundits), along with Kevin Love. At the very least, the roster he has now along with Wade should push GS to 6 games in a Finals matchup.


>IT/Rose
>Wade (picked up after buy out)/JR/Korver
>Bron/Shumpert/RJ
>Love/Crowder/Jeff Green(lol)
>Tristan/Zizic/Frye
>
>This team is deeper than last years and probably get along
>better with Wade+Bron. They probably edge the C's in 6-7
>games and lose to the Warriors in 5-6 games.
Agree

>Next season:
>PG?!?!?!
>JR/!?!?!
>Crowder/!?!??!?!
>Love/?!?!?!
>Tristan/Zizic
The good part of the trade is that the team can legit blow it up and rebuild very fast, and still have the 2018 pick.

>Maybe you move Tristan for picks and draft a PG in next
>summer's draft? My assumption is, if the BK pick is top 5
>they are going big anyway.
Agreed

  

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130. "completely missed Jaylen's role"
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>The Celtics have a FORMIDABLE starting lineup. However, their
>bench is weak. I wouldn't start Brown over Tatum, because I
>think Brown's pretty garbage. At best, he'll be an athletic
>wing that can't do anything but drive.

he can defend. that's what he can do right now in a roster that just needs him to defend and drive.

>The Celtics lost most of their defensive players, so I don't
>think they'll be as tough as they were last year.

^why the brown start makes sense. Brown and Smart are their two lockdown defenders now. And the Cs generally only had two lockdown defenders on the court at any one time. That can still be the case (Rozier has potential) and Theis is a better backup defender, probably, than any other C they had last year. Plus, Rie's a bad defender, but IT is 5'8 and a bad defender.

Yabusele and Ojeyele can be defensive specialists also.



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That's Jaylen's strength right now.

And when they wanna go heavy on O, Tatum is right there behind him.

Smh

On top of alladat, we still don't know what those other two (especially Yabusele) are going to be. If they do ANYTHING...ugh.

Damn Danny Ainge.

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129. "Said it before the trade."
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Only Philly has a chance of catching up IMO

  

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144. "Them and the Bucks IMO (if they make the right moves)"
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But he C's have a head start on Philly and less injury concerns.

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329. "agree and with those two orgs, that's a pretty big IF"
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I do think both are going in the right direction now but the Bucks have been known to reverse course, get cheap, etc. Sixers' main concern is the health of their players

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132. "Eh. They still don't have a top 10 player."
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Top 10 players change everything. Let Giannis get a little better and Bari come back strong, and they'll be a handful for anybody.

I do agree Boston looks most likely to win the East in 2 years, and that if brown and Tatum develop, they match up as well with the Dubs as anyone.

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133. "also, brown and Tatum should both start"
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Marcus Smart's a role player and can come off the bench. Play Gordo at 2 and teach the two young bols, and you can switch everything 2-4

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148. "the starting lineup is almost definitely this"
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Rie/Brown/Hayward/Morris/Horford

or, if the other team is big

Rie/Brown/Hayward/Horford/Baynes

smart first guard off the bench, tatum first wing off the bench.

  

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163. "You gotta get both wing prospects 25 minutes per game"
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Dudes gotta play to get better. That's going to be difficult with Hayward getting 34 or so, and it's much easier to manage if you get both out there at the beginning of the game.

Me personally, I'd rather bring a vet like Morris off the bench, because their egos handle it better. If you want to switch it up in the playoffs because he gives you the best starting 5, cool, but for the regular season I'm playing the young guys

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150. "I agree. In a perimeter oriented NBA, Tatum can play the 4."
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165. "Right, he can't be that much worse defensively than the lesser Morris..."
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137. "How long before he requests a trade out of BOS?"
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Hayward and Stephens will be the face of the franchise

After going full diva in CLE, 'Rie will be the scapegoat for any wrongs

...and if he ends up sitting out big chunks of the season...

Yeah, I don't think this works out well for 'Rie in BOS

Just my opinion

Watching Bron defend him will be fun

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139. "right...like Kevin Love was the 2nd option? "
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>Hayward and Stephens will be the face of the franchise

you mad, dogg.

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142. "lol, Hayward will not be the face of the franchise over Kyrie"
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man, people really trying to spin this like it's bad for Boston after years of yelling at us to trade our picks. If he doesn't reup in a couple years you can come back and yell at me, until then this is a win.

  

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145. "nah, Boston fans will love him in a way Cleveland never did..."
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>Watching Bron defend him will be fun

like he defended Steph?

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151. "How live will it be first time Ky has Bron on him?"
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Kyrie is gonna try to All-Star Game out-dribble dude, and if he sinks that shot after all that dribbling? Boston Garden would go absolutely fucking bananas.

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159. "Well the first game is in Clev so Ky gonna get booooed the first time lo..."
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177. "Ky's gonna sink that 3 and cup his hand around his ear, lmao."
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THIS IS GONNA BE SO GOOD.

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155. "Beat me to it"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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160. "Yo the boards will explode if The Celtics don't go to"
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the EC Finals.


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162. "the board will no longer exist if the cavs don't. "
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166. "Boards gonna explode regardless bc one of em ain't making the"
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Finals.

It will explode again whether the EC Finals team wins or loses against GS.

This is great for the boards.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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183. "CAVS already there bro, they just waiting for their opp"
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167. "This isn't the biggest aspect to the trade obviously"
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but with this trade and the fact Avery Bradley isn't on the Celts anymore, does this kill the little rivalry Boston had brewing with the Wizards? I'm far to lazy to look at the Boston roster right now, but I have the feeling a good majority of the Boston players that had problems with the Wizards aren't on the roster anymore.

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168. "yeah Boston's going to have 4 new starters, this is basically a whole..."
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new team, not something you see often from a *edit* regular season conference champion. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they took a step back.

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169. "Wizards only real rival is the Hawks"
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you won't find another team as half-decent as the Wizards so content with just staying pat at every turn. They don't even seem to care that they're pseudo-close to going to the Finals. I'd bet they didn't even inquire about Paul George. They're cheap. They're uninspired. Their only competition is Atlanta for the "how well we can we appear to try hard while treading water" crown.

  

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170. "But who cares because the Celts-Cav rivalry will be LIT(as the kids say)"
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171. "lol right, only person who cared about that rivalry was john wall and th..."
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morris twin.

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173. "Don't get me wrong."
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I'm not a Wizards fan, but the little rivalry they had with the Celts provided some level of interest in the playoffs last year when things were otherwise dead and boring in the East.

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180. "i guess but rivalries are only as good as the stakes and the teams"
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so yeah they there waas dislike, but i don't think alot of people cared bc the wizards just aren't that good. People ain't tuning in bc something might pop off.

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181. "Nigga you're a Knicks fan. If you don't go sit ya dumbass down..."
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& try to convince yourself that Tim Hardaway Jr is somebody.

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206. "You talking bout knicks?"
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Lol 'you mad'exhibit A

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174. "There was definitely no love lost between Wall and Crowder, it will be....."
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interesting to see the Morris twins go at each other on contenders

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Especially if the rumors of Dwayne Wade joining the Cavaliers turn out the be true. LeBron, D-Wade, Isiah Thomas, Derrick Rose, and JR Smith to round things out. What can do wrong?

I almost wish it was possible for Ray Allen to re-join the Celtics for a veteran's minimum contract towards the end of the season just to make things completely insane. Now THAT would be lit, as the kids say.

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189. "Nobody gives a fuck about Ray at this point, his biggest beefs are with...."
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with dudes that are retired like him lol

>I almost wish it was possible for Ray Allen to re-join the
>Celtics for a veteran's minimum contract towards the end of
>the season just to make things completely insane. Now THAT
>would be lit, as the kids say.

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182. "Wall vs Kyrie will be more of a thing"
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A rivalry between them has always been overshadowed by Bib Brother Bron but I think it will now bloom since they're both the best players on their respective team and they're jockeying for near to mid-term dominance in the east.

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175. "Spears reporting Cavs offered Kyrie to Dubs for Klay "
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I don't make that trade if I'm the Warriors either.

No need to mess with a winning formula.

Kyrie is better off in Boston.

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178. "Wouldn't make any sense for GS..."
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>I don't make that trade if I'm the Warriors either.
>
>No need to mess with a winning formula.
>
>Kyrie is better off in Boston.

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179. "none"
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240. "I would be PISSED if that ever happened."
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This trade makes me sad
But that trade would make me PISSED.

anywhere but to there or Miami, FOH.

  

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184. "I still don't know why the Celtics made this trade,"
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they lost 2 starters & a lotto pick.

I guess Ainge really didn't believe in IT...but at least IT has been to the playoffs sans LeBron.



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185. "because 25, champion, battle tested that can grow with young core"
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and that pick better be top 2. or they better flip it for a star.

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186. "yep, plus Danny got an out..."
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on having to not give I.T. that bread. Dude wasn't taking no hometown discount. Any ideas of that got deaded when he showed up to the building rocking slides with a Brink's truck on them.

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187. "how about this way of thinking about it"
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Kyrie is at least as good as IT (I say better, but not important) + below market value for extra time on contract + Jae was actually a logjam starter in the way of two top 5 picks from getting their minutes and was going to be disgrunted + the Cs really couldn't re-sign IT but they will easily be able to re-sign Kyrie while he's still in his prime + Kyrie's better than IT and less likely to have a serious injury problem in the future.

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192. "obviously ainge didnt believe in IT"
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they got a better player here and they got him for a minimum of two seasons, probably longer. crowder was going to see less minutes with the arrival of hayward and tatum. ultimately he needed to go in order for salaries to match. the pick may bite them but they have been playing with house money there, two lotto picks following playoff seasons, potentially a high pick this year or the following year with the swap down this year. this is an ainge move, stockpile by dicking teams over in small deals (or making the occasional fair one, like with philly) and then turn something loose for the big prize. for them to have kyrie and hayward instead of IT and crowder? plus expand brown's role and add tatum? that's an upgrade.

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200. "right, Danny's punk ass got lucky again and had the perfect deal fall..."
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into his lap.

There was no way he was giving IT a $200+mil max deal he just had to figure out how to move the best player and heart & soul of a first place team and not have the fans completely revolt. Kyrie was the perfect solution, another similar star guard just as good if not better than IT, but 3 years younger and cost controlled for an extra year. If they believe in Jaylen and Tatum then Crowder had to go too. Cleveland was pushing hard for Tatum to be included in the deal so he had to throw in the pick as well.

So Danny was basically able to do something almost unheard of which was reboot and rebuilt a first place(but flawed) conference team on the fly. The Celtics may take small step back for a year or so but are better suited for the long haul. The consensus thinking among GM's around the league seems to be to basically punt for the next year or 2 while the Golden State juggernaut runs its course. The Boston fans will be patient because they have an exciting young player in Kyrie to go along with Heyward, the white star they've been thirsting for since Bird blew his back out 25 years.

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221. "luck is the residue of opportunity and design."
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>into his lap.

Ainge is a good GM, he has a clear but flexible approach. I don't get the backlash toward him, any other GM that could put together the big 3, hose the Nyets, make a great outside the box coaching hire and now land the top FA by a mile and an all-star point guard in the same offseason is a good GM, period.

>There was no way he was giving IT a $200+mil max deal he just
>had to figure out how to move the best player and heart & soul
>of a first place team and not have the fans completely revolt.
>Kyrie was the perfect solution, another similar star guard
>just as good if not better than IT, but 3 years younger and
>cost controlled for an extra year. If they believe in Jaylen
>and Tatum then Crowder had to go too. Cleveland was pushing
>hard for Tatum to be included in the deal so he had to throw
>in the pick as well.

Yup, exactly, where were Crowder's minutes? A 15-20 minute a night guy now with diminishing prospects in the future. I think had this deal not come up, they would have ridden out IT and probably moved him after he signed his next deal. Great timing for them for Kyrie to tell Cleveland to fuck off though, that part was certainly fortunate, and their newfound depth at the three (wouldn't have happened if they didn't trade down, which also made this pick expendable) let them match contracts without losing anything significant from their rotation.

>So Danny was basically able to do something almost unheard of
>which was reboot and rebuilt a first place(but flawed)
>conference team on the fly. The Celtics may take small step
>back for a year or so but are better suited for the long haul.
>The consensus thinking among GM's around the league seems to
>be to basically punt for the next year or 2 while the Golden
>State juggernaut runs its course. The Boston fans will be
>patient because they have an exciting young player in Kyrie to
>go along with Heyward, the white star they've been thirsting
>for since Bird blew his back out 25 years.

That's the thing, too, they managed to get two lotto picks who don't have any real pressure on them thanks to this situation and the two stars they added don't have a ton of mileage and are arguably still improving. Pretty impressive. I think Hayward is underrated if anything, he is not a Kevin Love stat-stuffer type, he is efficient and still improving because he was a relative late-comer to basketball. Irving will need to make some adjustments but he has more than enough talent to thrive here. Nobody ever accused him of a lack of confidence. The only issue I see with Boston in their bigs, giving Horford another contract would probably be a mistake and they don't have a ton of talent there. Then again they have Brown and Tatum in the fold and if both pan out they could move one for a big.

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224. "^^^"
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198. "i mean... not really."
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>they lost 2 starters & a lotto pick.

after all, they are replacing one of those guys with the guy they got back, who's younger and better.

and the other guy plays the same position as the all star that they just gave $128m, and the two guys that they took with back to back #3 picks in the last 2 drafts.

so they upgraded both of those positions, at essentially the cost of zizic and the unprotected 1st. which prolly isn't going to fall as high as some ppl seem to think it will.

ainge did give up a lot, but he's moving IT and the bklyn pick both at the peak of their respective values. this trade makes a lot of sense, for both sides.

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234. "yeah wtf?"
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they didn't "lose" IT/Bradley/Crowder, they reconfigured with Kyrie/Hayward/Tatum. Also they had gained a lotto pick (likely) with the trade down for Tatum. I still think Fultz will be better but having had IT and now having Kyrie that seems moot. It'll only really burn them if Jackson or some other guy taken below 3 turns out to be significantly better than Tatum. A+ offseason for Ainge, no way around it.

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263. "some ppl for whatever reason hate to give ainge his due credit."
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i don't deny his flaws and i've talked about them here plenty, but dude's been one of the very best execs in the L for a decade plus. inarguably.

i mean, all he did this offseason was nail the draft, nail free agency, and nail the trade market. what more do muhfuckas want?

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194. "Does this signal more clearly that Bron is leaving next year?"
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How do you read it?

1) Nothing to do with it, acquiescing Kyrie's trade demand

2) Desperate stab to get deeper and keep LeBron

3) Move looking toward the future either by cutting salary and adding a pick or losing LeBron but keeping IT

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195. "Combination of the three"
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1. Kyrie wasn't happy, so trading him before the season starts and it becomes an "issue" in the locker room was imperative.

2. Hope that adding IT and Crowder puts them in a strong position to get back to the Finals. Even if they lose, the front office and Gilbert go to 'Bron after the season is over and say, "Hey, we made it this far AGAIN but with IT instead of Irving, and we're bring in (potentially) a top 2 pick next year (Obviously they gotta hope the Nets are trash this season). Come on back and we can do this."

3. If 'Bron does decide to leave, then they still have IT's Bird rights and a potential top pick. That's something to build around.

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196. "pretty much how i see it as well, nothing concrete here"
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as far as indicating lebron's future

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199. "I assume if Bron leaves, IT is not getting resigned."
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Love and everyone else goes on the trade block.


as far as whether or not he's leaving, I don't think they know so they tried to prepare for either situation, which is really all they can do.

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223. "It's tough to evaluate"
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Ideally if LeBron left they would have had Kyrie to build around or to trade in the final year of his deal to kickstart a rebuild. I think if LeBron leaves and Thomas is still willing to re-sign, they have to sign him and then probably trade him early in the contract. They can't lose him for nothing here, especially with cap relief being kind of marginal ($12M or whatever). I don't think they can prepare but yeah if LeBron or both guys leave then I think a total teardown would be in order.

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201. "I think Gilbert got one of his balls back"
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LeBron lost a little leverage with this trade because the fear of life after LeBron is what's motivating Gilbert to pay these luxury taxes.

Now, if the Nets are as bad as expected, Gilbert has a decent contingency plan if he doesn't feel like bending to LeBron's will anymore.

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205. "I'm kinda shocked how much Cleveland got."
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I guess I just think Irving is overrated. He's never been on a winning team without Lebron. I think this is an absolute disaster for Boston. Having one of the best coaches might prevent this from completely falling apart....but their overall situation and future prospects this time last year were WAY more promising than now imo. They'll look back on this as setting the franchise back half a decade. They should have kept all the picks and set their sights on 3 to 4 years from now instead of cashing in prematurely.

Cleveland gets another year with Lebron and now is in a great position to rebuild next summer with picks and prospects and tons of cap room. My guess is this will go down as one of the most lopsided trades in the modern era. And they got this much return with no leveredge...having a player publically demand a trade usually never gets this much return.

  

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207. "Nah they gave up exactly what kyrie is worth "
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Not as good pg, fringe starter, 1st rounder.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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208. "Celtics fans are classless"
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https://t.co/TahUQgH74r

IT helped recruit Horford + Heyward and brought y'all to the brink of the ECF.

Shout out to the organization for the proper smear campaign:

https://nesn.com/2017/08/nba-rumors-some-celtics-players-werent-that-fond-of-isaiah-thomas/

  

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210. "idiot fans are idiots, the org's smears are disgusting"
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they can/should be better. regardless of its truth, no need to let that get out. dude played for the team right after his sister died. FOH.

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211. "RE: Celtics fans are classless"
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>https://t.co/TahUQgH74r
>
>IT helped recruit Horford + Heyward and brought y'all to the
>brink of the ECF.
>
>Shout out to the organization for the proper smear campaign:
>
>https://nesn.com/2017/08/nba-rumors-some-celtics-players-werent-that-fond-of-isaiah-thomas/

Evan Turner an others are saying that's BS...:
https://www.celticsblog.com/2017/8/24/16195532/evan-turner-isaiah-thomas-jae-crowder-nba-blockbuster-trade-kyrie-irving-cleveland-cavs-lebron-james

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212. "Olynyk and Sullinger call BS"
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2729195-jared-sullinger-kelly-olynyk-deny-isaiah-thomas-disliked-by-celtics-teammates


also doubt many fans are burning jerseys. They are stupid if they are, probably just one idiot going viral. He got traded ffs

  

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214. "it's one idiot"
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>also doubt many fans are burning jerseys. They are stupid if
>they are, probably just one idiot going viral. He got traded
>ffs

Boston fans are plenty classless for other reasons, but they're also sad IT is leaving.

  

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209. "Fair trade imo, but strange trading with rivals"
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Rivals as in they are currently both competing for the same thing, and nobody is rebuilding. As opposed to the Clippers-Rockets trade because the Clippers are clearly trying to rebuild for the long term.

The only way this makes sense to me is if both sides really feel like they are getting one over on the other team. I can't imagine doing a trade with a rival that you feel in your mind is a fair trade.

I think Boston won this trade, if I were to pick. I am big on Kyrie, and I also don't like giving big money to diminutive players, which I imagine Cleveland is prepared to give to Isaiah, especially if Lebron sticks around (in order to keep the unit together).
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213. "it is but I think it was a unique situation where both teams were in a....."
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tough spot and had what each other needed.

Cleveland didn't want an ugly situation to drag into the season. Kyrie made his demand AFTER other star players that were on the market like Jimmy Butler and Paul George had already been moved.

Boston was most likely going to let IT walk in free-agency next year and piss off a lot of their fans. Landing Kyrie was the perfect solution for them.

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216. "right, plus after this season, the will be going in different directions..."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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215. "Just 4 Celtics remain from the Eastern Conference finals team...:"
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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2017/08/22/just-4-celtics-remain-from-the-eastern-conference-finals-team-heres-where-the-others-are-now

Just 4 Celtics remain from the Eastern Conference finals team. Here’s where the others are now.

By John Waller August 22, 2017
The Celtics may want to play the name game — and perhaps a few icebreakers — before the start of the 2017-2018 season.

As Boston Globe reporter Adam Himmelsbach pointed out, only four players remain from the team’s Eastern Conference finals team three months ago, and 11 are now gone after Tuesday night’s blockbuster deal.

The latest trade sent Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic, and the Nets’ 2018 first-round pick to the Cavaliers for Kyrie Irving.

The deal left center-forward Al Horford, forward Jaylen Brown, and guards Marcus Smart and Terry Rozier as the only current Celtics to have experienced the Game 5 loss to Cleveland.

Here’s where the other 11 went (Zizic wasn’t on the roster):

Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder: Traded to the Cavaliers.
Avery Bradley: Traded to the Pistons.
Gerald Green: Free agent.
Jonas Jerebko: Signed with the Jazz.
Amir Johnson: Signed with the 76ers.
Jordan Mickey: Signed with the Heat.
Kelly Olynyk: Signed with the Heat.
James Young: Free agent.
Tyler Zeller: Free agent.
Demetrius Jackson: Signed a two-way contract with the Rockets.

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217. "this is risky as hell...lol"
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227. "right, its rare to see an contender turn their roster over like that in ..."
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season

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228. "Let's not get hung up on the word "contender""
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They won an emaciated East in spite of themselves and were nearly embarrassed, then summarily humbled, in the playoffs. That roster wasn't doing shit ever.

  

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231. "no arguments about that from me..."
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>They won an emaciated East in spite of themselves and were
>nearly embarrassed, then summarily humbled, in the playoffs.
>That roster wasn't doing shit ever.

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233. "so why are you labeling them a contender"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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236. "They had the best record in the east and played in the conference finals..."
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that by definition is a contender.

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238. "Where does this fit in the definition?"
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>>They won an emaciated East in spite of themselves and were
>nearly embarrassed, then summarily humbled, in the playoffs.
>That roster wasn't doing shit ever.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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239. "So I guess the Cavs weren't contenders either?"
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243. "no one picked the Celts to win the finals"
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many people picked the Cavs. This isn't difficult dude.

  

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