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Frank Longo
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"The Luke Kennard Train is leaving the station."


  

          

We told you to get on while he was at Duke. Some still slept.

Now he's doing everything in Summer League. Scoring efficiently. Creating for others. Even playing tough defense. Kid's IQ is off the charts.

Maybe some of you can run quickly enough to hop onto the caboose before the train disappears over the horizon. But it's leaving the station. I'd start sprinting.

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nah, it's just for duke fans. not even piston fans get a piece.
Jul 02nd 2017
1
I'm glad the Twitterverse is noting his defense the last two days.
Jul 02nd 2017
2
I'm still sleep
Jul 02nd 2017
3
and nobody is chasin' it. solid pro, not a star of any kind
Jul 02nd 2017
4
5'9 no D playing John Gillon locked him when he needed a bucket
Jul 02nd 2017
5
Its the Luke Kennard Train...we ain't gotta run THAT fast.
Jul 02nd 2017
6
Purvis playing in Uraguay
Jul 02nd 2017
7
      RE: Purvis playing in Uraguay
Jul 02nd 2017
8
           don't nobody click insult-links in 2017
Jul 02nd 2017
9
Summer League.
Jul 03rd 2017
10
Poor man's Nik Stauskas
Jul 03rd 2017
11
This is like Inception level hate.
Jul 03rd 2017
12
That's how you know you've got a winner on your hands.
Jul 03rd 2017
13
      Yea this does kinda bode well for young Luke
Jul 03rd 2017
14
      nobody is calling him a bust. what are y'all calling him?
Jul 03rd 2017
15
      Check the Justivity post.
Jul 03rd 2017
17
      apparently I was right about Stauskas seeing as how the Sixers just...
Jul 03rd 2017
16
I dunno man Stauskas is hot ass garbage
Jul 03rd 2017
19
      And the same people that hyped him are hyping Kennard, coincidence?
Jul 03rd 2017
20
           Woooooooow (c) Mos Def.
Jul 05th 2017
22
           RE: And the same people that hyped him are hyping Kennard, coincidence?
Jul 05th 2017
25
           and? he sorry. oh well. i ain't cyse him coming outta school
Jul 05th 2017
30
Since we're talking summer league, I like the Orlando session.
Jul 03rd 2017
18
I dunno, he seemed kinda small
Jul 04th 2017
21
He's from Duke so naturally his trajectory is HOF.
Jul 05th 2017
23
Luke Kennard >>> Dirk Nowitzki
Jul 05th 2017
24
gotta be mad to state something this false.
Jul 05th 2017
26
There's nothing to be mad about. Just a simple observation which I'm
Jul 05th 2017
27
      proof in the pudding. i ain't call him an all-star.
Jul 05th 2017
29
Its called Longo'ing, every Dukie and every white dude is a future star.
Jul 05th 2017
28
You just made a provably false statement. That's called "ThaTruthing."
Jul 05th 2017
31
Point me to where I said Kennard is a future All-Star.
Jul 05th 2017
32
      We're supposed to be ok with Lottery Role Players?
Jul 05th 2017
33
           As I said before, I direct anyone/everyone to the Justivity post.
Jul 05th 2017
34
           I dont think that reply was for me
Jul 05th 2017
35
           So, basically he'll perform to his expectation level?
Jul 05th 2017
40
                Both his alma mater and his upward trajectory.
Jul 06th 2017
42
                     top 20 5* recruits arent expected to be early entrants?
Jul 06th 2017
43
                          mf's backpedaling like Deion Sanders lol
Jul 06th 2017
45
                          now we gotta sit here and act like people expected him to be this?
Jul 06th 2017
46
                          so then there are no expectations on anyone ever?
Jul 06th 2017
49
                               we identify the OAD, early entry candidates every.single.year
Jul 06th 2017
51
                          This might be my checkout point for a while.
Jul 06th 2017
52
           HUH?
Jul 07th 2017
60
I think Luke being drafted 12th is a reflection of the talent level
Jul 05th 2017
36
It's like this:
Jul 05th 2017
37
Ginobili wasn't a starter
Jul 05th 2017
38
you could've stopped right here, you do this every year lol...
Jul 06th 2017
53
yeah, that's a terrible nickname
Jul 10th 2017
67
Bradley to DET, so much for getting minutes
Jul 07th 2017
56
      KCP is out soon..try to keep up
Jul 07th 2017
57
      KCP will not be resigned. cmon man.
Jul 07th 2017
58
           lol, all these twitter analysts
Jul 07th 2017
59
                And now his rights are renounced
Jul 07th 2017
61
                     shit is honestly embedded into our society :(
Jul 07th 2017
63
                          WTF are ya'll talking about?
Jul 08th 2017
65
                               you seem to already know the answer to that
Jul 08th 2017
66
                               You don't need "inside info"
Jul 10th 2017
68
...
Jul 05th 2017
39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA
Jul 05th 2017
41
nice complimentary piece to Henry Ellenson thus far
Jul 06th 2017
44
No need to get on board cuz it's headed in the same direction as...
Jul 06th 2017
47
cause they play the same position?
Jul 06th 2017
48
No. Cuz Philly can't trade him. Meaning nobody wants a blossoming...
Jul 07th 2017
62
      you just dumb if you think philly can;t move him.
Jul 07th 2017
64
okafor had a good coach and a franchise with direction?
Jul 06th 2017
50
      umm...
Jul 06th 2017
54
           he ain't do shit. had a massive green light, did 13/6 on 41% at age 23
Jul 06th 2017
55
RE: The Luke Kennard Train is leaving the station.
Jul 12th 2017
69
1 pick ahead of Donovan Mitchell.
Aug 24th 2020
70
Always go with a Kentucky
Aug 24th 2020
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He did 16/3.5/4 this year.
Aug 24th 2020
72
RE: He did 16/3.5/4 this year.
Aug 24th 2020
73
1 pick ahead of Donovan
Jun 10th 2021
74
Choo choo!!..
Jun 10th 2021
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lmao
Jun 10th 2021
76
LOL!
Jun 12th 2021
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Basaglia
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1. "nah, it's just for duke fans. not even piston fans get a piece. "
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the rest of these niggas can go cyse malik monk and his broke jazz player raggedy ass fade.

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2. "I'm glad the Twitterverse is noting his defense the last two days."
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He wasn't great or anything last year, but I tried telling folks, he was greatly improved from freshman to sophomore year, he was better than Allen and Jackson defensively last year, and frankly wasn't too far behind Matt Jones, whose defense was cysed all season based mostly on his rep from 2015. The fundamentals and IQ are there.

He improves his game consistently in every way. It should also help in the NBA that he won't be asked to do absolutely everything for his team on offense the way he had to do for Duke the first few months of the season. And he's looked strong defensively in the Summer League so far.

He'll struggle with some quicker guys, of course, but he'll make up for it elsewhere. He should be a passable defender when all is said and done-- unlikely to ever be a great defender or anything, but the liability talk has been overblown.

(By the way, to another member of Ellenson's bandwagon, he's been looking good too. A little too in love with the 3 ball, but the offense and the rebounding are so nice. I'm still a fan.)

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3. "I'm still sleep"
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4. "and nobody is chasin' it. solid pro, not a star of any kind"
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5. "5'9 no D playing John Gillon locked him when he needed a bucket"
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Nice off the ball spot up shooter/role player. He ain't THAT good.

  

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6. "Its the Luke Kennard Train...we ain't gotta run THAT fast."
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7. "Purvis playing in Uraguay"
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8. "RE: Purvis playing in Uraguay"
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9. "don't nobody click insult-links in 2017"
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10. "Summer League. "
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11. "Poor man's Nik Stauskas"
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12. "This is like Inception level hate."
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I dont know where I am.

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13. "That's how you know you've got a winner on your hands."
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When certain posters call him a bust.

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14. "Yea this does kinda bode well for young Luke "
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15. "nobody is calling him a bust. what are y'all calling him?"
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This certainly isn't a red carpet rollout for a star...this a post that you will up 6 years later when he FINALLY has a season worth talking about.

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17. "Check the Justivity post."
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And read other replies, as there *are* people in this post calling him a bust.

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16. "apparently I was right about Stauskas seeing as how the Sixers just..."
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gave your boy JJ $23mil to play in front of him.

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19. "I dunno man Stauskas is hot ass garbage"
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I figured he'd be a decent sub but he is really shitty.

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20. "And the same people that hyped him are hyping Kennard, coincidence?"
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I think not...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2462158&mesg_id=2462158&listing_type=search

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=21&topic_id=104182&mesg_id=104182&page=

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22. "Woooooooow (c) Mos Def. "
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That's pretty funny. Who would have thought that dude was going to be a star or good starter? I admit he didn't look like the dog shit he turned out to be but his ceiling was a seventh man.

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25. "RE: And the same people that hyped him are hyping Kennard, coincidence?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=21&topic_id=104182&mesg_id=104182&page=#104335

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30. "and? he sorry. oh well. i ain't cyse him coming outta school"
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18. "Since we're talking summer league, I like the Orlando session."
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21. "I dunno, he seemed kinda small"
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that is all

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23. "He's from Duke so naturally his trajectory is HOF. "
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No seriously, is there a (insert Duke player) 'going to be a future all-star' for literally every Duke player that gets drafted in the 1st round???

  

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24. "Luke Kennard >>> Dirk Nowitzki"
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>No seriously, is there a (insert Duke player) 'going to be a
>future all-star' for literally every Duke player that gets
>drafted in the 1st round???

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26. "gotta be mad to state something this false. "
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27. "There's nothing to be mad about. Just a simple observation which I'm "
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sure isn't held solely by me. We all have a tendency to be homers, Duke fans just take it to another level IMO.

  

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29. "proof in the pudding. i ain't call him an all-star. "
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in fact, i can only think of 5 or 6 duke guys i've said would be all-stars since i been on this board. out of dozens of first rounder and quite a few lottery pick, that ain't much.

jabari
kyrie
justise
oak
giles
tatum

sounds about right. so "literally every Duke player that gets drafted in the 1st round" is just you being mad.

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28. "Its called Longo'ing, every Dukie and every white dude is a future star."
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31. "You just made a provably false statement. That's called "ThaTruthing.""
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32. "Point me to where I said Kennard is a future All-Star."
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At any point anywhere on this board.

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33. "We're supposed to be ok with Lottery Role Players?"
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damn.

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34. "As I said before, I direct anyone/everyone to the Justivity post."
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I believe he's a starter on a good team and a big-moment guy. The type of player good teams need. All-around high IQ talent.

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35. "I dont think that reply was for me"
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(9) Do NOT make posts telling other players to go read your other posts.

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40. "So, basically he'll perform to his expectation level? "
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I mean, Dennis Smith Jr was picked at #9, Monk at #11, and Donovan Mitchell at #13 so it's not like he's being dismissed or forgotten. Just 1 pick after Monk tells me the NBA scouts were high on him.

I'm just wondering what prompted this post other than him playing at Duke? Like, why should I feel compelled to hop aboard a train you can't say with confidence will lead to anything great?

  

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42. "Both his alma mater and his upward trajectory."
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As I said elsewhere, he went from being someone who wasn't expected to be an early departure to a lottery pick in one season. And he's from my school. And I felt like celebrating the fact that I feel he'll continue to shine.

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43. "top 20 5* recruits arent expected to be early entrants?"
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45. "mf's backpedaling like Deion Sanders lol"
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46. "now we gotta sit here and act like people expected him to be this?"
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y'all play too many games. niggas still tryna reconcile jj redick being 33 and making 23 mil for a year's worth of services after MOST of Y'ALL thought he'd be out the league by now.

i mean, luke kennards ain't supposed to spend a couple years in the toughest conference in the country and be a lotto pick. it don't happen. theo pinson and jackson were 5 stars too.

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49. "so then there are no expectations on anyone ever?"
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cant be both. his 247 h.s. class is full of early entrants above him with a bunch below him as well.

we arent talking about someone who has significantly outperformed their assessments.

also, im not your antagonist here. i like kennard, and im glad hes a piston. but he is doing normal 5* recruit things so far, and no one can be said to have whiffed on his evaluation thus far.

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51. "we identify the OAD, early entry candidates every.single.year"
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lets look at all the five stars coming in the fall and pick who's expected to stay beyond a year.

1
Michael Porter Jr.

2
DeAndre Ayton

3
Mohamed Bamba

4
Wendell Carter

5
Trevon Duval

6
Collin Sexton

7
Gary Trent Jr. - MAYBE

8
Jaren Jackson

9
Kevin Knox

10
Mitchell Robinson

11
P.J. Washington - STAYING

12
Lonnie Walker

13
Brian Bowen - STAYING

14
Troy Brown Jr.

15
Brandon McCoy

16
Nick Richards

17
Billy Preston - STAYING

18
Jarred Vanderbilt

19
Jaylen Hands - STAYING

20
Nickeil Alexander-Walker - STAYING

21
John Petty - STAYING

22
Trae Young - STAYING

23
Quade Green - STAYING

24
Kris Wilkes - STAYING

25
M.J. Walker - STAYING

26
Jalek Felton - STAYING

27
Malik Williams - STAYING

28
Charles O'Bannon Jr. - STAYING

So you telling me 21-34 ranked, depending on the site, luke kennard was SUPPOSED to be gon by his second year? hell, miles bridges was SUPPOSED to leave.

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52. "This might be my checkout point for a while."
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Because I know that you and many other posters on this board understand that the college rankings are *not* made by NBA potential and that, while the Top 25 recruits (and under) with elite athleticism leave nearly every time, and these are the lion's share of the top recruits, the ones who are top recruits but who are less athletic tend to stay. I mean, I could go back and dive through the examples... but I know that you know this. And I know the others know this. (Well, most of them.)

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60. "HUH?"
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Fuck yeah you better. Most folks drafted are non-NBA players. Shit, you get a guy who can play 25 minutes for you and be productive and stay on the floor against a good offense, that motherfucker's about to make $20 million because guys like that help teams win.

  

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36. "I think Luke being drafted 12th is a reflection of the talent level"
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in this draft class

Which was my interpretation of the Cs' - 6ers trade

i.e. I don't see a superstar

I liked Luke, even though he's a dookie

love his game, maybe a Jeff Hornacek type of career...?

so put some metrics on it

ya'll always do this B$...you didn't really say anything at all

what do you project for his rookie year

I think DET shipped some guys, so he's gonna get run

...10 or more PPG...5 or more APG...?

say it with your chest (c)

I'll go on record and say this is the worst draft class since 2000.

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37. "It's like this:"
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You've got a kid who wasn't expected to be an early departure coming into Duke.

He makes a huge leap in the offseason, has the most efficient offensive season in Duke history, plays himself into the lottery.

Looks completely at ease in Summer League. Averaged something like 16 PPG, got some run handling the ball, helped alleviate concerns that he "can't defend." It's all trending upward, because he's a gym rat, a brilliant shooter, and a high-IQ guy.

I've been calling him Diet Coke Ginobili. Good player on a good team, high IQ, can do it all, will make clutch plays for good teams for years to come. I think by Year 3, something like 15-4-4 is in play if SVG gives him serious tick. I'm concerned about his immediate impact if they keep KCP, just due to sharing minutes, but if he plays, I wouldn't be shocked if he cracked double figures year one as a 20-year-old. Otherwise, it'll be a waiting game... but I don't doubt him.

I'm just excited by his trajectory. He's got a Redickesque work ethic and a more diverse skill set than Redick had. If he keeps growing and improving like Redick did, then yeah. Ginobili-lite impact. He's got a high floor and a high IQ. Hard not to be excited as a fan when watching him play.

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38. "Ginobili wasn't a starter "
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Thanks for the clarification though

Just checked DET roster

He should be able to crack that starting lineup by seasons end

If the benos, kcp and reggie bullocks of the world are ahead of him

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53. "you could've stopped right here, you do this every year lol..."
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>Looks completely at ease in Summer League. Averaged something
>like 16 PPG, got some run handling the ball, helped alleviate
>concerns that he "can't defend."

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67. "yeah, that's a terrible nickname"
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>I've been calling him Diet Coke Ginobili. Good player on a
>good team, high IQ, can do it all, will make clutch plays for
>good teams for years to come. I think by Year 3, something
>like 15-4-4 is in play if SVG gives him serious tick. I'm
>concerned about his immediate impact if they keep KCP, just
>due to sharing minutes, but if he plays, I wouldn't be shocked
>if he cracked double figures year one as a 20-year-old.
>Otherwise, it'll be a waiting game... but I don't doubt him.

Ginobili was a GREAT player, incredible passer, superb athleticism, mad genius bball IQ (for good and ill). don't really see that much of a comparison besides being white lefty 2 guards.



>I'm just excited by his trajectory. He's got a Redickesque
>work ethic and a more diverse skill set than Redick had. If he
>keeps growing and improving like Redick did, then yeah.
>Ginobili-lite impact. He's got a high floor and a high IQ.
>Hard not to be excited as a fan when watching him play.

Redick is an elite NBA shooter. I know Kennard is a good shooter & has a broader skillset but he doesn't have an elite-level NBA skill.

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56. "Bradley to DET, so much for getting minutes"
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19893312/boston-celtics-trading-avery-bradley-detroit-pistons

...maybe they still try to ship him to LAL/C...or move KCP...?

but if not, looks like they're higher on Ellenson

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57. "KCP is out soon..try to keep up"
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58. "KCP will not be resigned. cmon man."
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59. "lol, all these twitter analysts "
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no need to actually no anything about the team you want to make a point about.

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61. "And now his rights are renounced"
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You straight up don't think before you type. Must be amazing, to just have like empty mindmeld with your fingers; thoughts don't appear in your head, yet you still just go typing some shit anyhow. Powerful stuff.

  

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63. "shit is honestly embedded into our society :("
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65. "WTF are ya'll talking about?"
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Yes, I posted a hypothetical situation about a team I don't follow

after drafting a guard in the 1st round

and subsequently acquiring a guard in a trade

one would assume that team would then need to move a guard from their roster

which they did

I don't see the gotcha moment here

because ya'll already heard rumblings that KCP was going to be let go

CONGRATS!!! You're all geniuses for knowing something that a person with no inside knowledge was able to deduce from the outside looking in

now...back to the point at hand

if DET moved their starting forward from last year's roster after drafting a forward last year...I stand by the statement that they must be higher on Ellenson than Luke being that it looks like they're making room for him to start

DET is still acquiring guards with Bradley and now Calloway

with my novice bball acumen compared to the experts on this board

I would deduce that Luke isn't going to get enough minutes in DET this year for this agenda to be a win

...shining in summer league or not...

he's still behind a handful of guards in the assumed rotation

and none of those guys are exactly superstars by the way...but I'll let you all keep patting yourselves on the back in here

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66. "you seem to already know the answer to that"
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>Yes, I posted about a team I don't
>follow

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68. "You don't need "inside info""
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You could have just google searched it and in literally 3-5 minutes you would have had enough info to make a far more informed post.

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39. "..."
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41. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA"
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44. "nice complimentary piece to Henry Ellenson thus far"
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Kennard can play, but ol' Hank is looking super nice (and is actually younger)

appears to have possibly been a steal

its tough to hope for too much better than those 2 in the 10-20 range

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47. "No need to get on board cuz it's headed in the same direction as..."
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Okafor's.

"Be sure to get your ticket and don't you miss it." - The Gap Band

Edit: What happened to the great slew-footed hope? Philly can't even trade him.

  

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48. "cause they play the same position?"
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or because they both will have made the all-rookie team?

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62. "No. Cuz Philly can't trade him. Meaning nobody wants a blossoming..."
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center with the stat line you gave and who is on his rookie contract. Come on, B! There's gotta be something wrong with the kid for this to be the case.

He may turn it around somewhere else but, as of now, nobody wants him.

Kennard might Danny Ferry his way to a long career but he ain't about to bring da ruckus. Not enough for there to be a train to be on.

  

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64. "you just dumb if you think philly can;t move him. "
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1. they want too much.

2. they don;t know if embiid will hold up and they want a plan b.

3. danny ferry was 30 years ago. just stop with the naming randon duke players.

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50. "okafor had a good coach and a franchise with direction?"
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must have missed that

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55. "he ain't do shit. had a massive green light, did 13/6 on 41% at age 23"
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nigga, if you don't get the fuck with this cyse.

niggas done poo-poo'd 19 year-old jah's 18/7 on 51% for two years now.

grown ass man puttin up prime omri casspi shit and we supposed to pop bottles.

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69. "RE: The Luke Kennard Train is leaving the station."
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https://www.facebook.com/ILoveBasketballTv/videos/10155494719658537/?

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70. "1 pick ahead of Donovan Mitchell."
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71. "Always go with a Kentucky"
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I think you meant Tyler Hierro.

  

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72. "He did 16/3.5/4 this year. "
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Just turned 24.

lmao @ whatever this uppage was about.

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73. "RE: He did 16/3.5/4 this year. "
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He was picked ahead of money making Mitch

  

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74. "1 pick ahead of Donovan"
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Beezo
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75. "Choo choo!!.."
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DJR
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76. "lmao"
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77. "LOL!"
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