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dula dibiasi
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""i didn't. mark jackson did.""


  

          

The last three years have to have been bittersweet for Mark Jackson. On one hand, his fingerprints are all over this Warriors team that is knocking down the door on the conversation for greatest team ever. At the same time, this group of talent (sans Kevin Durant) did not really flourish until after Jackson had been fired as Warriors head coach in 2014.

Steve Kerr has received a ton of much-deserved credit for molding the Warriors into the offensive juggernaut they have become under his watch, but what makes Golden State a historically good team is its play on both ends. The Warriors finished first in offensive efficiency and second in defensive efficiency during the regular season.

When asked Tuesday how he was able to forge a great defensive team while not sacrificing anything on the other end, Kerr made sure to give the credit where it is due: Mark Jackson.

https://youtu.be/WEi-e8jdsUM

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Reporter: How did you make this such a good defensive team while keeping up the pace (offensively)?

Kerr: I didn’t. I didn’t; Mark Jackson did. Honestly. When I was in TV, I was doing Warriors games for years; every year they were one of the worst defensive teams in the league. Mark came in and made a focus of being a tough defensive-minded team.

The trade for Andrew Bogut, to me, changed the identity of the team. The year before I got here, the Warriors were the fourth-ranked defensive team in the league — already top-five. We knew what we had. We didn’t change one thing defensively. We started switching more when Draymond took over that power forward role. But for the most part, our schemes — everything — stayed the same.

We already knew they had established that defensive identity. Our job was to improve the offense — to get more movement and more flow. And that was my focus.

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And improve the offense Kerr did. He found ways to get Curry more open looks off the ball, greatly improved the offensive spacing and the flow of the offense. That’s when the Warriors truly took off. The offense was just way too stagnant under Jackson, which is a big reason they were nothing more than fringe contender in the West before Kerr took over. At the same time, Golden State isn’t the machine it is now without Jackson’s influence on the defensive end.

When Jackson took over the Warriors in 2011, the team ranked 26th in defensive efficiency. Three years later it cracked the top-five. Now, having good, versatile defenders like Green, Bogut, Klay Thompson and Andre Iguodala certainly helped, but if we’re raving about Kerr’s offense when he has Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Thompson and Green at his disposal, then we should do the same for Jackson and his defense.

As Jackson put it during the first Cavs-Warriors NBA Finals: “Steve Kerr has done an outstanding job. You’re seeing the best team in basketball today. Deserves a lot of credit. While giving him credit, there’s no need to take away credit from the past. You cannot disrespect the caterpillar and rave about the butterfly.”

https://youtu.be/KaQqnjPTzGU

Kerr would clearly agree with that sentiment.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/06/nba-finals-warriors-steve-kerr-mark-jackson-defense

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'genda Alert!!!!
Jun 06th 2017
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Classy is an old school term, but Kerr is its epitome.
Jun 06th 2017
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Incredibly humble...
Jun 06th 2017
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Respect.
Jun 07th 2017
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Kerr always gives respect to those who came before him
Jun 07th 2017
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You know what? I'm not playing nice. Fuck y'all.
Jun 07th 2017
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Only possible conclusions...
Jun 07th 2017
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That's dope
Jun 07th 2017
8
Marcus Thompson with another one
Jun 07th 2017
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So who's going to bring that up tonight?
Jun 07th 2017
10
respect
Jun 07th 2017
11

Ryan M
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1. "'genda Alert!!!!"
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obsidianchrysalis
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Tue Jun-06-17 10:01 PM

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2. "Classy is an old school term, but Kerr is its epitome."
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He didn't have to go out of his way to credit Mark. But he did and shows he's just an honorable man based upon the sense his peers have of him.

(he could be kicking kittens in the gut in his downtime but he's at least keeping it together where it counts.)

Say what you want to say about his odd rotations or that he isn't an X&O's coach, but he gets the most out of his players and I'm sure his integrity helps with that.

One of my favorite coaches in the league.

  

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Crash85
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Tue Jun-06-17 10:16 PM

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3. "Incredibly humble..."
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And I'm sure Mark Jackson appreciates it... it's hard not to, at least, wonder how Jackson feels covering these last 3 finals... I felt for him the other night when they had to cover Kerr's return and what it meant for the Warriors... This statement today by Kerr is something that most fans already knew to be true, but definitely a great thing that Kerr acknowledges it...

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Everyone here hates pop music, but loves Michael Jackson... Okay Player...

  

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4. "Respect. "
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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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mrhood75
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Wed Jun-07-17 01:21 AM

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5. "Kerr always gives respect to those who came before him"
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And who work with him. Epitome of a stand-up guy in the leader. A great leader and motivator. Hope he stays with GS forever.

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Orbit_Established
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6. "You know what? I'm not playing nice. Fuck y'all."
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Y'all called me a race baiter for YEARS for saying
ANYTHING good about Mark Jackson.

The obvious key to that team is that they are MORE than just
jumpshooters. They are a WELL ROUNDED, TOUGH and gritty
team that still defends like hell almost independent of who
is on the floor.

Jackson is why Klay is an ELITE defender. Jackson is why Steph
is a well-rounded playmaker. Jackson DRAFTED Draymond, FOUGHT
with the front office to give him minutes over Barnes.

And why did he draft Draymond? He wanted to recreate the
tough athletic frontcourt of his Pacers teams (and he DID).

I told y'all this.

And y'all either racist or coons.



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Crash85
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7. "Only possible conclusions..."
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>And y'all either racist or coons.
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Cenario
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8. "That's dope"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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bshelly
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9. "Marcus Thompson with another one"
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http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/07/thompson-how-the-warriors-became-a-defensive-juggernaut-in-10-steps/

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10. "So who's going to bring that up tonight?"
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I have to think it'll be Van Gundy since Breen is pretty much the straight man among the trio.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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legsdiamond
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11. "respect "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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