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"Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble and the road to WrestleMania"


  

          

Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post. We're also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.

  

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OKPW Prediction Series: Final Royal Rumble card and bonus questions
Jan 26th 2017
1
OKPW Prediction Series: [OK] Rumble
Jan 26th 2017
2
Just pick 1 person right?
Jan 26th 2017
3
      Correct, pick one person and if he's any of your 3 entrants you get the ...
Jan 26th 2017
4
RE: Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble and the road to WrestleMania
Jan 26th 2017
5
My Rumble pool was featured in Sports Illustrated
Jan 26th 2017
6
Ugh. So current rumors are AJ v Shane O Mac at Mania
Jan 26th 2017
7
Not the best Takeover, but I really enjoyed Nakamura/Roode
Jan 29th 2017
8
NXT has set expectations it can't live up to every time
Jan 29th 2017
9
pretty much
Jan 29th 2017
10
RE: Not the best Takeover, but I really enjoyed Nakamura/Roode
Jan 29th 2017
13
I'm very excited for tonight
Jan 29th 2017
11
RE: I'm very excited for tonight
Jan 29th 2017
12
Agree 100%. This should be great.
Jan 29th 2017
14
KO just a great-match machine.
Jan 29th 2017
15
RE: KO just a great-match machine.
Jan 29th 2017
16
Fuck I bombed on all my picks.....
Jan 29th 2017
17
^^surprise of the night
Jan 29th 2017
22
Oh look. John Cena won the title.
Jan 29th 2017
18
That was a blast tho
Jan 29th 2017
19
That was like watching someone play a wrestling video game
Jan 29th 2017
20
Well, that's an ongoing issue, the devaluation of finishers.
Jan 29th 2017
23
      yeah, and I have a hard time even paying attention to the matches now
Jan 29th 2017
24
      Yup. Know the feeling.
Jan 29th 2017
25
      Or the inability to develop 2nd and 3rd finishers. The E gives everyone ...
Jan 29th 2017
31
RE: Oh look. John Cena won the title.
Jan 29th 2017
21
Oak27 you didn't set yourself up with that Perfect 10 did you?
Jan 29th 2017
26
cmon, a little faith in your commisioner
Jan 29th 2017
27
      Just jokes, bruh
Jan 29th 2017
28
So are there no big surprises or are they saving them?
Jan 29th 2017
29
I thought there was a chance HBK would come in and kick some dudes
Jan 29th 2017
30
So Goldberg and Taker.
Jan 29th 2017
32
Roman!? Wow.
Jan 29th 2017
33
The surprises were Tye Dillinger and Jack Gallagher....smh
Jan 29th 2017
37
Lol, they really don't want people to cheer Reigns do they?
Jan 29th 2017
34
serious WHAT ARE THEY THINKING!?!?!
Jan 29th 2017
35
so, Cena vs Orton AGAIN
Jan 29th 2017
36
I doubt they follow through on that
Jan 29th 2017
38
RE: so, Cena vs Orton? Nope
Jan 29th 2017
42
Fuck Vince in the goat ass....
Jan 29th 2017
39
lol sounds like they mailed this one in.
Jan 29th 2017
40
I feel like it's always set up perfectly, but never actually finishes ri...
Jan 29th 2017
41
2017 Royal Rumble, or How To Shit The Bed And Alienate Fans
Jan 30th 2017
43
It feels like they do this every year at the RUmble
Jan 30th 2017
44
Except the Rumble results itself it was a great card top to bottom
Jan 30th 2017
45
RE: Except the Rumble results itself it was a great card top to bottom
Jan 30th 2017
47
My Mania guesses
Jan 30th 2017
46
RE: My Mania guesses
Jan 30th 2017
48
Damn of course SetHHH
Jan 30th 2017
49
My guesses right now
Jan 30th 2017
50
If we take the Chamber rumors at face value
Jan 30th 2017
51
RE: My Mania mildly possible but unlikely fever dream...
Jan 31st 2017
63
This Mania is about to be trash.
Jan 30th 2017
52
They've stopped building to Manias
Jan 30th 2017
53
      RE: I'm hoping they take the NXT route with Charlotte's handover
Feb 03rd 2017
79
           They see the money in Bayley
Feb 04th 2017
81
I dont understand how anyone could want a Cena/Taker match
Jan 30th 2017
54
He was driven to the ring
Jan 30th 2017
55
Yeah, but so was Braun and every other big man.
Jan 31st 2017
69
      Here's the cart in action. Big E is just the damn best, man
Feb 01st 2017
75
           holy fuck that's goofy looking
Feb 01st 2017
76
Word is next Mania he'll have his retirement match vs Kane
Jan 30th 2017
56
      how does Kane look these days?
Jan 30th 2017
57
           he looks in good shape
Jan 30th 2017
58
           He's actually not far off his prime IMO
Jan 30th 2017
59
                RE: He's actually not far off his prime IMO
Jan 31st 2017
60
Reigns has heel eyebrows.
Jan 31st 2017
61
Hell. Mother. Fucking. Yes.
Jan 31st 2017
62
I'm thinking a Handicap match at Mania
Jan 31st 2017
64
      "Meet your destroyer" would make me think it's just Joe/Rollins
Jan 31st 2017
65
Could we get a HHH led NXT stable?
Jan 31st 2017
66
KO, Joe, and Revival would be an incredible stable
Jan 31st 2017
67
No. No more HHH. Ok. as little HHH as possible.
Jan 31st 2017
70
      I think they need HHH as a leader, just not overbearing
Feb 01st 2017
74
Damn, my interest in Smackdown has melted down to near zero
Jan 31st 2017
68
it's not just you RE: Ambrose
Feb 01st 2017
71
      I must admit that his match with A.J. was very good this weeek
Feb 01st 2017
77
Possibly a work but Seth hurt his knee again
Feb 01st 2017
72
just read its legit, but we'll see...
Feb 01st 2017
73
Rock & Roll Express rumored for HOF. I fucking love this class
Feb 03rd 2017
78
SummerFest 1989 was the first PPV I ever watched...
Feb 04th 2017
80
RE: Ddp
Feb 12th 2017
98
The Bucks of Youth vs Broken Brilliance will actually happen
Feb 05th 2017
82
RE: The Bucks of Youth vs Broken Brilliance will actually happen
Feb 05th 2017
83
Crap
Feb 06th 2017
84
:( they took my Corbin-Taker pitch and gave it to Reigns
Feb 07th 2017
85
I'm fine with Reigns-Taker
Feb 10th 2017
87
      RE: I'm fine with Reigns-Taker
Feb 11th 2017
92
           I don't think this mixed tag is actually going to happen
Feb 11th 2017
93
OKPW Prediction Series: Elimination Chamber
Feb 10th 2017
86
Looking forward to Orton-Harper the most.
Feb 10th 2017
88
RE: Ziggla...
Feb 12th 2017
96
Rumble shook up the standings big time
Feb 10th 2017
89
      credit where it's due: the booking hasn't been predictable
Feb 10th 2017
90
           Our picks say this PPV is very predictable
Feb 12th 2017
94
                that's the downfall of these pre-Mania ppvs
Feb 12th 2017
95
TNA: Lashley vs Wolf
Feb 11th 2017
91
RE: Sensible Dinners for Show?
Feb 12th 2017
97
This show is dragging due to lack of heat.
Feb 12th 2017
99
Genuinely shocked they put the belt on Naomi....
Feb 12th 2017
100
Yes, happy for her but never saw that coming.
Feb 13th 2017
104
Technically I did pick the first two guys in the match....
Feb 12th 2017
101
RE: Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble and the road to WrestleMania
Feb 12th 2017
102
Wow really? I thought the way they worked Corbin was nice.
Feb 13th 2017
103
      same, I don't really mind a big guy being surprised with a rollup
Feb 13th 2017
106
Poor Crews...
Feb 13th 2017
105
the guy has the charisma of a wet sock
Feb 13th 2017
107
Disagree completely. Have you ever worn wet socks?
Feb 13th 2017
109
      can't argue with this logic
Feb 13th 2017
110
I actually feel worse for Dolph.
Feb 13th 2017
108
Crews is a face that NXT needs right now
Feb 13th 2017
111
You beat me to the point...
Feb 13th 2017
114
      They could probably spin him into an interesting heel from here
Feb 13th 2017
115
           I'd actually team him with Ziggler...
Feb 14th 2017
124
word. they couldn't have picked 2 more boring faces for Zigs
Feb 13th 2017
112
Agreed about Crews, but Dolph's biggest problem is still himself.
Feb 13th 2017
113
I would paint Crews in the mode of "Money' Mayweather
Feb 13th 2017
117
Teddy Long is HoF bound!
Feb 13th 2017
116
Fuck. What if SD gets a triple threat at Mania?
Feb 13th 2017
118
I think Cena will be in the Mania triple threat for sure
Feb 13th 2017
119
Word on the sheets is Cena/Nikki Vs Miz/Maryse
Feb 14th 2017
125
I doubt they'd have Cena win #17 in a Triple Threat...
Feb 13th 2017
120
      Agreed.
Feb 14th 2017
121
Bayley won this WAY too early.
Feb 14th 2017
122
I'm sure they're just gonna continue trading it amongst each other...
Feb 14th 2017
123
RE: I'm sure they're just gonna continue trading it amongst each other.....
Feb 14th 2017
129
Stupid stupid stupid booking
Feb 14th 2017
126
      Yep, can't believe they've fluffed it this bad.
Feb 14th 2017
128
      YUP
Feb 14th 2017
130
           Thing is you know Charlotte will win it back quick
Feb 14th 2017
132
The Festival of Friendship
Feb 14th 2017
127
fantastic segment
Feb 14th 2017
131
He's gotta be out til at least Fastlane
Feb 14th 2017
133
      this will make a Goldberg win much easier to swallow
Feb 14th 2017
134
           Can Goldberg be booked as a guy that needs help to win, though?
Feb 14th 2017
140
           No, particularly because that'll make Brock look terrible...
Feb 14th 2017
144
           brilliant points...
Feb 14th 2017
150
           PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!!
Feb 15th 2017
159
           good point
Feb 14th 2017
145
                Maybe Brock attacks Bill during his entrance....
Feb 14th 2017
147
                     I hope that doesn't happen...
Feb 14th 2017
151
                          he could always just headbutt a locker or something
Feb 14th 2017
152
           Am I crazy for thinking they're *not* gonna put the belt on Goldberg?
Feb 14th 2017
141
                I don't think it's necessarily a forgone conclusion
Feb 14th 2017
143
"It's art, you don't need pants!" is the most legit funny line in WWE...
Feb 14th 2017
155
      i was dying when he said that
Feb 18th 2017
169
my son is on board the Roman Reigns hate train
Feb 14th 2017
135
This is what I've been saying. Kids don't love Roman like Cena
Feb 14th 2017
137
      the funny thing is he doesnt hate anyone in wrestling
Feb 14th 2017
154
they won't but they should have Bray Wyatt go over at Mania
Feb 14th 2017
136
RE: they won't but they should have Bray Wyatt go over at Mania
Feb 14th 2017
138
I think he'll go over
Feb 14th 2017
139
You would think, but Goldberg/Lesnar doesn't need it either
Feb 14th 2017
142
      you ain't lying.
Feb 14th 2017
153
Based on the end of Elimination Chamber, I'd love to see Bray-AJ...
Feb 14th 2017
146
Is there anyone who WANTS to see an Orton title reign?
Feb 14th 2017
148
blandy don't have the passion to live up to his talent
Feb 17th 2017
163
I definitely think Bray's going over...
Feb 14th 2017
149
PLEASE con't say it
Feb 14th 2017
156
Randy Orton relinquishes title shot
Feb 14th 2017
157
Lesnar tells UFC he's done shoot-fighting
Feb 15th 2017
158
George "The Animal" Steele passed away
Feb 17th 2017
160
As did Nicole Bass
Feb 17th 2017
161
Im gonna try a new bit here: Pro Wrestling Podcast Of The Week
Feb 17th 2017
162
I have been going through wrestling podcasts like crazy
Feb 17th 2017
164
Which ones are you listening to?
Feb 17th 2017
165
      Right now I go more for interviews
Feb 17th 2017
166
RE: wonderful!
Feb 18th 2017
167
If you're looking for a fun one that rarely sticks to format
Feb 18th 2017
168
DDP in the HOF now.
Feb 20th 2017
170
I dig it.
Feb 21st 2017
174
Raw story line question
Feb 21st 2017
171
They view titles as mere props and champs can "take" a loss
Feb 21st 2017
172
I get the whole champs can lose thing
Feb 21st 2017
173
      The two go hand in hand via McMahon logic.
Feb 21st 2017
176
this really bothers me too.
Feb 21st 2017
177
      yes to all of this
Feb 22nd 2017
180
going to Smackdown tonight
Feb 21st 2017
175
Hope you both enjoyed it
Feb 22nd 2017
178
great crowd today
Feb 22nd 2017
179
      this was the impression I got
Feb 22nd 2017
181
           In So Cal we have a lot of yells that sound like boo's
Feb 22nd 2017
182
finally watched it on my DVR and Baron Corbin got screwed
Feb 23rd 2017
183
TNA Slippin...
Feb 27th 2017
184
BROTHER HUSKY!
Feb 27th 2017
185
The Raw tag division needs them so badly right now
Feb 28th 2017
186
RE: The Raw tag division needs them so badly right now
Feb 28th 2017
187
they screwed the pooch on this in the most TNA way possible
Feb 28th 2017
188
great Smackdown episode
Mar 01st 2017
189
RE: great Smackdown episode
Mar 01st 2017
190
I agree with this critique, but this angle works for the Miz
Mar 01st 2017
193
yes you're right about the Cena feuds...
Mar 01st 2017
195
I have very mixed feelings/thoughts on Orton/Wyatt
Mar 01st 2017
191
      part of me is just happy about the long-term storytelling
Mar 01st 2017
192
           I was cool with the segment...
Mar 01st 2017
194
                at a certain point you just gotta ignore all the messiness
Mar 01st 2017
196
OKPW Prediction Series: Fastlane
Mar 02nd 2017
197
question: how are we defining interference?
Mar 02nd 2017
198
distracting Bayley/Charlotte to benefit the other, physically interferin...
Mar 03rd 2017
199
After Mania can we switch to who leaves with the title?
Mar 03rd 2017
200
Correct, that's my intention.
Mar 03rd 2017
201
RE: OKPW Prediction Series: Fastlane
Mar 04th 2017
202
I see it going 10-12 minutes
Mar 04th 2017
203
Owens-Goldberg will go less than 15 but Owens isn't getting squashed...
Mar 05th 2017
215
Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet
Mar 04th 2017
204
RE: Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet
Mar 05th 2017
217
      RE: Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet
Mar 05th 2017
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           RE: Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet
Mar 05th 2017
222
TNA spoiler if anyone cares
Mar 04th 2017
205
No one has ever watched a wrestling show just to see Alberto Del Rio
Mar 04th 2017
206
lol...true statement.
Mar 04th 2017
207
As long as dumbass Jeff Jarrett is running the show it won't matter who ...
Mar 04th 2017
208
They've kinda run out of big name free agents
Mar 04th 2017
212
I haven't watched TNA since Sting was acting like the Joker
Mar 04th 2017
210
      This spoiler is from the dirt sheets. I don't even watch.
Mar 04th 2017
211
The Hardys signed with ROH
Mar 04th 2017
209
RE: The Hardys signed with ROH
Mar 05th 2017
213
Can the Hardys still work?
Mar 05th 2017
214
      yup
Mar 05th 2017
216
      RE: pretty much
Mar 05th 2017
218
           I'm assuming WWE won't run with their TNA gimmick though, right?
Mar 05th 2017
220
                RE: I'm assuming WWE won't run with their TNA gimmick though, right?
Mar 05th 2017
221
                the TNA gimmick is too over not to
Mar 05th 2017
223
Well, Joe vs. Zayn was disappointing...
Mar 05th 2017
224
Set a tone for this whole PPV so far
Mar 05th 2017
225
      This filler must mean the main event is going short...
Mar 05th 2017
227
           This is a lot of unplanned filler though
Mar 05th 2017
228
The Jinder/Rusev matches may be the worst 20 minutes in PPV history
Mar 05th 2017
226
RE: The Jinder/Rusev matches may be the worst 20 minutes in PPV history
Mar 05th 2017
229
Posted in wrong spot
Mar 05th 2017
230
Right?! That was bananas
Mar 05th 2017
231
      So bizarre
Mar 05th 2017
232
           They want it to be longer than regular Raw just because
Mar 05th 2017
234
Thank God for Neville-Gallagher. Give those two a bonus.
Mar 05th 2017
233
It's almost admirable the way they won't let up on Reigns
Mar 05th 2017
235
Say what you want about how he's booked, but Reigns can work...
Mar 05th 2017
241
So Strowman and Charlotte both lose their streaks for no reason tonight
Mar 05th 2017
236
Strowman, I guess it's cause they don't have a Mania plan for him
Mar 05th 2017
237
      Sasha heel turn has to be coming
Mar 05th 2017
238
           Yeah, they said Sasha wasn't getting anymore title shots against Charlot...
Mar 05th 2017
239
...
Mar 05th 2017
240
Well, guess I was wrong...
Mar 05th 2017
242
I guess I'm not too smart...
Mar 06th 2017
243
It benefits them a great deal in the short term.
Mar 06th 2017
244
It will do wonders for the person who takes the belt from Lesnar
Mar 06th 2017
245
anybody else annoyed by the amount of stats/facts cole was dropping?
Mar 06th 2017
246
RE: anybody else annoyed by the amount of stats/facts cole was dropping?
Mar 06th 2017
247
And since Cole is more Joe Buck than Gordon Solie, it makes sense.
Mar 06th 2017
249
allegedly Sasha was supposed to grab the ropes
Mar 07th 2017
254
Rick Rude in HOF
Mar 06th 2017
248
Hi. I'm a mark. And I love Old Man Goldberg.
Mar 06th 2017
250
Here's my biggest issue
Mar 07th 2017
251
RE: Here's my biggest issue
Mar 07th 2017
252
      Randy isnt a part timer though
Mar 07th 2017
258
           Disappearing for months at a time
Mar 07th 2017
260
                His long term absences have been due to injury
Mar 07th 2017
261
It's for the causal fan, but the casual fan says "Really? Him???"
Mar 07th 2017
253
It's great short term money but terrible long term... as usual.
Mar 07th 2017
255
I'm kinda in two minds about it...
Mar 10th 2017
267
Oh, and Jericho is offically in the GOAT pantheon to me
Mar 07th 2017
256
yup, after this past year he's solidly in the conversation
Mar 07th 2017
257
RE: Oh, and Jericho is offically in the GOAT pantheon to me
Mar 07th 2017
259
hell yes...
Mar 08th 2017
263
This last year has made me a fan.
Mar 10th 2017
265
aj with the cool fakeout on randy
Mar 07th 2017
262
RE: aj with the cool fakeout on randy
Mar 09th 2017
264
Am I being too optimistic about Naomi?
Mar 10th 2017
266
Damn you!
Mar 10th 2017
268
shout out to the fallen angel finally winning a world title
Mar 13th 2017
269
breh they STILL on this Steph/HHH mess jesus fucking christ
Mar 13th 2017
270
All that Mick/Steph stuff just to get to Aitch/Rollins
Mar 14th 2017
271
      Also about getting Foley out as GM
Mar 14th 2017
272
           true, it's just everything Mick/Steph-related...
Mar 14th 2017
273
Kurt Angle is backstage tonight. Might want to watch just in case
Mar 14th 2017
274
Awesome. Can't wait for another McMania. I love the McMahons taking cent...
Mar 14th 2017
275
RE: Ziggla
Mar 14th 2017
276
Not Phil. Phil's still a hot name.
Mar 14th 2017
277
Question: Is it safe to say that the Vince/Austin feud is the reason thi...
Mar 15th 2017
278
what do you consider new generation of fans
Mar 15th 2017
279
I would say within the last 5-10 years or so
Mar 15th 2017
280
I think they absolutely see themselves as McDraws.
Mar 15th 2017
281
Have to just concede that Mania is booked for the casual fans...
Mar 18th 2017
295
      I'm honestly surprised he's wrestling after Survivor Series
Mar 19th 2017
306
Anybody checked out these Southpaw Regional Wrestling videos on YouTube?
Mar 17th 2017
282
I just saw all 4 episodes...
Mar 17th 2017
283
Rusev...er I mean Big Bartholomew was hilarious to me
Mar 17th 2017
284
      yes! Rusev and Lana chanting USA! is hilarious...
Mar 17th 2017
285
Well i bought myself a green jacket!!
Mar 18th 2017
288
RE: Anybody checked out these Southpaw Regional Wrestling videos on YouT...
Mar 19th 2017
298
RE: Anybody checked out these Southpaw Regional Wrestling videos on YouT...
Mar 19th 2017
299
These are brilliant. LOL@Bruce Mitchell predictably acting like they're ...
Mar 19th 2017
303
      RE: These are brilliant. LOL@Bruce Mitchell predictably acting like they...
Mar 19th 2017
304
Paige porno leak with Xavier Woods / Brad Maddox
Mar 18th 2017
286
Poor Francesca 2!
Mar 18th 2017
287
Gross, let's not talk about it here
Mar 18th 2017
289
I wasn't gonna bother, but the latest leak will get her fired
Mar 18th 2017
294
      as it should. i couldnt even imagine something that ridiculous.
Mar 18th 2017
296
      Ya I saw the NXT title picture through memes unfortunately
Mar 18th 2017
297
man i'd pay a lot of money to see the locker room reaction to this
Mar 18th 2017
290
RE: man i'd pay a lot of money to see the locker room reaction to this
Mar 19th 2017
302
RE: Paige porno leak with Xavier Woods / Brad Maddox
Mar 19th 2017
300
he Paige movie is going to make them think long and hard about punishmen...
Mar 19th 2017
301
yeah the more i think about it i don't think they can fire her
Mar 20th 2017
312
what did i miss w/ mickie james?
Mar 20th 2017
316
      mickie shot a porno
Mar 20th 2017
317
Might be best for WWE to just ignore it and let it fade away
Mar 20th 2017
309
      The thing with the NXT belt will be what sinks her
Mar 20th 2017
310
           I forgot about the belt being covered in jizz lmao
Mar 20th 2017
314
Quietly NXT has really been heating up lately
Mar 18th 2017
291
My guess is Sanity vs Strong, Dilinger and Jose
Mar 18th 2017
292
true, they don't seem to know where Roddy's character is going yet
Mar 18th 2017
293
RE: Quietly NXT has really been heating up lately
Mar 19th 2017
305
      As I predicted, they're making Ohno wear a shirt
Mar 19th 2017
307
           His entire presentation is awkward and uninteresting.
Mar 19th 2017
308
                I only know Chris Hero by name but he doesn't strike me as a guy Vince'l...
Mar 20th 2017
318
                Hero is a much better name, and we already have a KO
Mar 21st 2017
322
                lol
Mar 21st 2017
323
WWE should go all-out in support of Paige and Woods.
Mar 20th 2017
311
agree with all of this
Mar 20th 2017
313
Absolutely
Mar 20th 2017
315
Just read there will be no action taken against Paige and Woods
Mar 21st 2017
328
I have ZERO INTEREST in WrestleMania
Mar 20th 2017
319
wait no way lmfao
Mar 20th 2017
320
I think it'll be middle-of-the-road for Manias
Mar 21st 2017
321
WWE has a weird way to deliver on big cards...
Mar 21st 2017
330
Bishoff is inducting DDP. Would have preferred Jake
Mar 21st 2017
324
bishoff for me is turn the channel heat...
Mar 21st 2017
331
This week's reccomendation is Vince & Meltzer on Donahue
Mar 21st 2017
325
RE: This week's reccomendation is Vince & Meltzer on Donahue
Mar 22nd 2017
340
rumored main even for wm18...*drum roll*...
Mar 21st 2017
326
I have to see how this Taker match plays out first
Mar 21st 2017
327
      maybe the fact that it's not at ss...
Mar 21st 2017
329
           Yup, other possibilities:
Mar 21st 2017
334
           I woudn't be surprised if Brock drops the belt on Raw the next night...
Mar 22nd 2017
336
           RE: I woudn't be surprised if Brock drops the belt on Raw the next night...
Mar 23rd 2017
353
           they need to dead the Reigns shit once and for all. he just aint the guy...
Mar 22nd 2017
337
have we discussed brother love's podcast?
Mar 21st 2017
332
In this very post actually
Mar 21st 2017
333
      dammit, my bad.
Mar 22nd 2017
335
Damn... Jim Ross's wife is on life support.
Mar 22nd 2017
338
RIP
Mar 22nd 2017
339
There's certain stories that just hit me hard for some reason
Mar 22nd 2017
341
      yeah same here. this sucks to hear.
Mar 23rd 2017
345
      everyone has said Jan was the sweetest woman in / around the business
Mar 23rd 2017
349
WWE in talks to buy ROH
Mar 23rd 2017
342
I see non real upside to this. This would be awful.
Mar 23rd 2017
343
No upside for a fan, lots of upside for WWE
Mar 23rd 2017
344
i would think most ROH fans...
Mar 23rd 2017
346
      I promise you, nearly every ROH fan watches WWE
Mar 23rd 2017
348
who's to know?
Mar 23rd 2017
347
      Nope. WWE is incredibly predictable.
Mar 23rd 2017
352
           Yea I mean, again man, that's all speculation
Mar 24th 2017
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                SMH. And? This entire subject is speculation...as are forums.
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                     You're certain WWE buying ROH is a disaster
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                          Psst.. That's my *opinion*, and it's based on established patterns
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                               Facts:
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                                    I see half truths and badly out of context platitudes.
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                                         we're almost saying two different things here
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                                              Since when did terms like "most likely" and "more probable" mean "defini...
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I haven't watched much ROH but what would suck about this
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RE: WWE in talks to buy ROH
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PLEASE don't let this happen
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miz and maryse clowning tf out of nikki and cena (clip)
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YOOOOO miz/maryse annihilated dbry cena and the bellas on SDLive
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      Everyone went too far last night
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      to appear as a credible foe against Cena, you SHOULD go HAM
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      I'm more upset at how far Cena goes
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           Cena's got free reign but he's not smart enough to use it right
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                Cena has gotten better at letting people get over for the most part
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      man that shit looked like real legit disdain on both sides.
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      Well put. Everyone DID go too far but Cena destroyed Maryse...
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      "the pitter-patter of little feet" line killed me
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Has Jericho ever been this over?
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RE: Has Jericho ever been this over?
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3 matches moved to pre show
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Them rope replacers are gonna be busy early
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Word is SD Women are now on the main card.
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Seems like...
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      Reigns should just squash Taker, beat his ass after, cut a heel promo
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OKPW Prediction Series: WrestleMania & BonusMania
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Thanks again for running this
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Oak27
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1. "OKPW Prediction Series: Final Royal Rumble card and bonus questions"
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Prediction sheet can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RZgRvUsyrRwPDsnlMGaeo3ymxXn0duAuyi0Soi5Urnc/edit?usp=sharing

Final Royal Rumble card:
2017 Royal Rumble Match
WWE Championship: AJ Styles (c) v. John Cena
WWE Universal Championship: Kevin Owens (c) v. Roman Reigns
WWE Raw Women’s Championship: Charlotte (c) v. Bayley
WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Rich Swann (c) v. Neville
Becky Lynch, Nikki Bella & Naomi v. Alexa Bliss, Mickie James & Natalya
WWE Raw Tag Team Championship: Cesaro & Sheamus (c) v. Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson
Sasha Banks v. Nia Jax

Bonus Questions:
1. Who will have the most eliminations in the Royal Rumble match?
2. Who will record the longest time in the ring in the Royal Rumble match?
3. Who will be in the Final Four (1 point for each correct guess)
4. What number will the winner enter at:
a) 1-15
b) 16-20
c) 21-25
d) 26-30

  

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2. "OKPW Prediction Series: [OK] Rumble"
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Those of you in the top 10 in the prediction series standings (aka who have consistently participating) are in the Rumble. The draft didn’t go well at all so I ended up nixing the picks that were made and randomizing it, with everyone getting a pick in the 1-10, 11-20 and 21-30 ranges. You can see your entrant numbers and the scoresheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DYCAAZfOap1L7_-b0rcsH98d6cPxOWIbvbwX78QPoTc/edit?usp=sharing

You’ll notice next to your name on the right there is a column for “Guess Your Entrant”. Please put a superstar’s name here and if he ends up being one of your entrant you’ll get an extra 2 points. Let me know if you have any questions. Full rules can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l_hUA8TyxKPDdQ9ayzmuYOhv9w3Hb7zab2otprerjU0/edit?usp=sharing

Rumble
1 Max_Ptah
2 magilla vanilla
3 Af-1
4 Y2Flound
5 Great1 2k7
6 KCPlayer21
7 Jimaveli
8 Selassie I God
9 pretentious_username
10 Oak27
11 Max_Ptah
12 Jimaveli
13 Y2Flound
14 KCPlayer21
15 Oak27
16 pretentious_username
17 Selassie I God
18 Af-1
19 magilla vanilla
20 Great1 2k7
21 Jimaveli
22 magilla vanilla
23 Selassie I God
24 Max_Ptah
25 pretentious_username
26 Oak27
27 Great1 2k7
28 KCPlayer21
29 Y2Flound
30 Af-1

  

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3. "Just pick 1 person right?"
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And we have 3 shots he is that number. Don't pick a guess for each of our numbers?

  

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4. "Correct, pick one person and if he's any of your 3 entrants you get the ..."
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5. "RE: Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble and the road to WrestleMania"
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>Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post. We're
>also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.

I am excited for this weekend of rasslin. I had a shot to go to San Antonio for it, but I chilled since there's real stuff going on (my pops is sick..he's doing alright but The C is what it is).

The Rumble is gonna be awesome as long as HHH doesn't come out at the end with infinite specials and murk everybody (like the last time).

They might sack up and have Balor win this thing about not announcing him at all. Safe money is on Taker tho. It ain't like he needs it to get a title shot, but going this route works out too. Or he can just show back up in February and roll his eyes at somebody and get a shot. Folks are talking about...*potential 'spoiler'*














Taker vs Reigns instead of Taker vs Cena. What do you know...both of those dudes are in title matches this Sunday...IJS.

  

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6. "My Rumble pool was featured in Sports Illustrated"
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and I am weirdly proud of that. The SI writer happens to be in my wrestling FB group that the pool was based in:

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/01/25/wwe-week-wrestling-royal-rumble-ric-flair

"I’m fortunate to be part of the famed John Baglio/Sean Wilkinson Royal Rumble pool, which is a 30-person pool with pay-outs for the Rumble winner, most eliminations, longest in the Rumble, and even a prize for the “Santino Spot” for the runner-up. This is, by far, my favorite pay per view of the year. As for predictions: Baron Corbin with most eliminations; Dolph Ziggler as the longest in the Rumble; Bill Goldberg as the runner-up; and Finn Balor as the winner."

I'm famed now guys.

  

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7. "Ugh. So current rumors are AJ v Shane O Mac at Mania"
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Blech.

Dear god please no.

NO NO NO NO NO.

NO.

JUST FUCKING NO.

Sigh.

  

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8. "Not the best Takeover, but I really enjoyed Nakamura/Roode"
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Outside of Taker these 2 may have the best entrances of all-time in the WWE. Roode is just perfect for the WWE main event scene. He already fits right in and I think he'd make a great MITB winner when called up. The delivery of his finisher was much better and brutal looking than ever before so I hope he can replicate that in the future. Not really much memorable on the rest of the card but the only complaints I'd have is about the women's match. Asuka wasn't involved enough but Nikki looked great here. Much better than at the house show I saw her at.

  

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Y2Flound
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9. "NXT has set expectations it can't live up to every time"
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I think if we saw this card last year at the Rumble we'd be amazed at how great the show is, but it didn't hold up against both Brooklyn shows, Dallas or Canada.

There was no moment or match that you'll talk about for the rest of the year, but it was overall a good card.

My biggest complaint is the end of the main event felt like a Monday Night Raw main roster cop out ending. The overselling of an injury that seemed to come from nowhere. Nakamura not just pinning Roode when he was knocked out and then care for his knee made as little sense as Sasha tapping out with 2 seconds left in the ironman match.

I think they tried to hard to not let either guy look like the loser through storyline and circumstance instead of just making them both look great through a great match like most other NXT title matches.

  

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10. "pretty much"
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they also had very little time between takeovers and were on the road for much of that time so they were scrambling to set the stories up. The standard "getting over the newer guy" matches were fine although I gotta say I'm disappointed they can't throw Tye just one big win. Perhaps they hit the reset button when his number is called at the rumble??? DIY/Authors was better than I was expecting and they didn't make DIY look bad in the loss. I think both them and Shinsuke are better chasing the titles than holding them so from a pure booking standpoint this night was a success.

  

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13. "RE: Not the best Takeover, but I really enjoyed Nakamura/Roode"
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>Outside of Taker these 2 may have the best entrances of
>all-time in the WWE. Roode is just perfect for the WWE main
>event scene. He already fits right in and I think he'd make a
>great MITB winner when called up. The delivery of his finisher
>was much better and brutal looking than ever before so I hope
>he can replicate that in the future. Not really much memorable
>on the rest of the card but the only complaints I'd have is
>about the women's match. Asuka wasn't involved enough but
>Nikki looked great here. Much better than at the house show I
>saw her at.

The Takeovers have gone from being 2 hours of supreme rasslin for rasslin nerds to being like 1.2 hours of supreme rassling for rasslin nerds.

The thing I love most is the lack of sacred cows. ANYONE can lose a match. ANYONE. Okay, okay! Asuka is an exception for now, but Ember Moon is coming for her. And Daffney's crazy lil sister was gunning pretty hard last night too. They had to almost give her the Brock treatment to get rid of her.

  

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11. "I'm very excited for tonight"
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Just look at our prediction pool, there are 6 different names listed and the final 4 is all over the place.

My biggest concern is we have all fantasy booked 1000 things we want to see and when that doesn't happen we tend to be let down. But no matter who wins tonight the build and mystery is at a level that the Rumble has not had in forever.

  

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12. "RE: I'm very excited for tonight"
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>Just look at our prediction pool, there are 6 different names
>listed and the final 4 is all over the place.
>
>My biggest concern is we have all fantasy booked 1000 things
>we want to see and when that doesn't happen we tend to be let
>down. But no matter who wins tonight the build and mystery is
>at a level that the Rumble has not had in forever.

Same here. I'm borderline amped. As long as HHH doesn't show up with infinite specials on to win again, I'm good with being wrong. I'm pretty chalky though so we'll see. Either AJ or Owens retaining would be sweet. But it is going to be HARD to have Owens retain without having Jericho win the Rumble somehow. And the whole layout of how Jericho would win could be amazingly fun. But I don't see it going down like that. Taker winning and 'picking' which belt seems like the way to go. Goldberg/Brock getting on some WM8 Hogan/Sid stuff works for me too. And of course, Strowman is gonna be handing out a Kane amount of beatdowns.

  

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Oak27
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14. "Agree 100%. This should be great."
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Buck
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15. "KO just a great-match machine."
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jimaveli
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16. "RE: KO just a great-match machine."
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>

Whenever he can Indy it up, his mind for this shit works amazingly. And it elevates the WWE main event format in the process.

Roman can add yet another good and physical outing to his resume. Hating his booking is one thing. His ring work is hoss money.

  

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17. "Fuck I bombed on all my picks....."
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We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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Oak27
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22. "^^surprise of the night"
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Buck
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18. "Oh look. John Cena won the title."
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Tiger Woods
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19. "That was a blast tho"
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20. "That was like watching someone play a wrestling video game"
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Just taking turns randomly hitting big moves and finishers, but the match won't end until you hit like 8 of them. I think I remember a long time ago they were trying to improve the AI so the video game matches were more realistic. But apparently in the real matches, they just said F it.

That match was just dumb. Fans seemed to like it and announcers hyped it like the greatest thing ever though. I checked out after like the 5th kick out that shouldn't have happened.

  

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Buck
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23. "Well, that's an ongoing issue, the devaluation of finishers."
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It ain't a finisher if it doesn't finish, IMO, but I guess that ship has sailed.

  

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DJR
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24. "yeah, and I have a hard time even paying attention to the matches now"
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I basically have the network to watch old PPVs that we couldn't afford to buy when I was a kid. I watch the new ones, and barely pay attention to most of the matches.

I usually like the women's matches best, because they make more sense and end when they should end.

I've got false finisher fatigue.

  

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Buck
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25. "Yup. Know the feeling."
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>I've got false finisher fatigue.

  

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31. "Or the inability to develop 2nd and 3rd finishers. The E gives everyone ..."
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Finisher routine and they always do it.

Sometimes the rock beat people with a spine buster and a rock bottom . Then shit popped off and he had to rock bottom and maybe a people's elbow after the bell.


That way you protect the finishers and send the fans home happy

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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21. "RE: Oh look. John Cena won the title."
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>

The match was silly good. I'm fine with it. And there's no way anyone sees these matches and thinks anything less of AJ Styles, so he's good. Indy/tna/Japan cats are blowing up something fierce in WWE nowadays.

  

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26. "Oak27 you didn't set yourself up with that Perfect 10 did you?"
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We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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27. "cmon, a little faith in your commisioner"
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28. "Just jokes, bruh"
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We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

  

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Buck
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29. "So are there no big surprises or are they saving them?"
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30. "I thought there was a chance HBK would come in and kick some dudes"
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32. "So Goldberg and Taker."
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Surprised-ish.

  

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33. "Roman!? Wow."
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It's like they try to get this kid booed.

  

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37. "The surprises were Tye Dillinger and Jack Gallagher....smh"
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I wanted an Angle appearance so bad.

There's no way they're doing Cena-Orton for the 500th time, is there?

  

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34. "Lol, they really don't want people to cheer Reigns do they?"
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Bringing him out at 30 instead of Angle, Joe, etc. even HHH was bad enough. Having him throw out Taker and Jericho? Garbage.

  

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35. "serious WHAT ARE THEY THINKING!?!?!"
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36. "so, Cena vs Orton AGAIN"
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38. "I doubt they follow through on that"
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42. "RE: so, Cena vs Orton? Nope"
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There's no way that makes the Mania card. No way.

  

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39. "Fuck Vince in the goat ass...."
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We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
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40. "lol sounds like they mailed this one in."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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41. "I feel like it's always set up perfectly, but never actually finishes ri..."
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It's like they're more worried about trolling people than just booking the finish of the Rumble right.

  

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43. "2017 Royal Rumble, or How To Shit The Bed And Alienate Fans"
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This was not good.

  

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44. "It feels like they do this every year at the RUmble"
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They get so concerned with trying to trick fans that they just don't take the easy paths to interesting stuff that people are expecting.

  

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45. "Except the Rumble results itself it was a great card top to bottom"
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Don't let the lack of surprises or desire for a good ending take away from several good title matches.

  

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47. "RE: Except the Rumble results itself it was a great card top to bottom"
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>Don't let the lack of surprises or desire for a good ending
>take away from several good title matches.

Right. Similar to the last whatever years, most of the in-ring stuff is supreme. But they have to do something with the Rumble itself. I don't know how they can keep trolling with #30/the last guy/the last 10-ish minutes. It seems like their mission is to tick folks off. Ever since they had no Daniel Bryan that time when planet earth wanted it (Rey Jr got sent out there to get booed like crazy), the Rumble endings have undermined the hell out of the work that goes into laying out a match that long with that many folks involved.

If last night was a cog in the beginnings of a 'okay, Roman is a heel. Fine.' thing, maybe it'll work out. Otherwise, it's almost not possible to see it as logical. Roman coming out at 30 is a guy who gets a million title shots getting another shot at another one on the same night where he smooth lost a title match because someone in the back said so. It sucks when a show that some of us can watch without trying to book can still make us say 'well fuck! I didn't need it to go the way I thought, but why in the hell did they do that?'. We'll see. They still have lots of ways to go with this absurdly good roster of folks and part-timers.

Other theory: maybe something else fell through? Ie: Balor couldn't get cleared? Nak should be limpin any time he's in public so him being out makes sense. Maybe Joe is getting saved for something else coming soon? Maybe Kurt really is physically off and/or WWE doesn't trust him? The visual of him, Taker, Brock, and Goldberg in the ring seems like the type of thing they'd want. And 'Seth Rollins beats up some dude and takes his spot in the rumble' was somehow not a thing they wanted as an excuse to get the HHH/Rollins thing rolling?

Oh well, enough Monday morning alt booking. If they want most folks to loathe Vince and (even Reigns even though the kid can go in the ring), we're here again.

  

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46. "My Mania guesses"
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Taker/Brock/Goldberg
Randy/Bray
Braun/Reigns
Owens/Jericho
AJ will job

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48. "RE: My Mania guesses"
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>Taker/Brock/Goldberg
>Randy/Bray
>Braun/Reigns
>Owens/Jericho
>AJ will job

That triple threat would be a good thing for all 3. Brock doesn't own any working boots at this point so he needs to be in a match that either ends quickly or he gets to lay around in between suplex fits. Taker needs hella breaks too. And Goldy is still pretty dangerous to have doing multiple moves.

Rollins/Haitch seems like a lock too.

I hope Shane gets someone other than AJ. They'd make it fun cuz Shane is silly and AJ is probabaly the actual best rassler in the world right now but I'd rather see AJ vs a 'real rassler'. AJ vs Rollins. Let HHH do the Shane thing. I wish I didn't just type that cuz now I want it.

Cena/Joe might be a thing too. Joe would be THE MAN if they put him over at Man...let me stop.

  

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49. "Damn of course SetHHH"
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Joe/Cena I could get with too - maybe he costs him the belt at Elimination Chamber....

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50. "My guesses right now"
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Orton vs Cena- It's happening
KO vs Jericho
Roman vs Taker vs Braun
Brock vs Goldberg
HHH vs Rollins
Big Show vs Shaq
Bayley vs Charlotte vs Nia - I see Sasha being gone for a bit, Bayley winning and Sasha returning heel to take on Bayley

AJ vs either Joe or Shane because there is nobody left for that match so let's hope it's Joe



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51. "If we take the Chamber rumors at face value"
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I could see a 4-way with Bray/Orton/Cena/Styles. You avoid a straight-up Cena/Orton (thank god) and there's any number of ways you can book it with alliances and whatnot. I think Taker has his triple threat with Strowman and Reigns. He'd add another element to Goldberg/Lesnar 3 but I think Reigns/Strowman could use his star power more.

  

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63. "RE: My Mania mildly possible but unlikely fever dream..."
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Brock/Goldberg. Let it be. Brock's lazy ass doesn't deserve anyone else. And keeping Goldy's dangerous ass away from dudes with WWE futures and still making him 'interesting' because of the unpredictable nature of two non-wrestling part-timer monsters. Take the liberties. It's a work.

MAYBE Taker gets added to it because SOMEONE on WWE staff up high sees pretty clearly that Taker can't go well enough to be alone with damn near any non-Styles competitor in 2017.

Yeah right...

Taker vs Reigns (no titles)

AJ vs Nak (Shane for AJ? After the year AJ has had? Child please..have Nak show up with knees ablazing). If not Nak, gimme a cleared Balor and Club stuff.

By God Rollins vs Joe('s gonna kill you). Please please please lawd please! HHH standing around with his KoF 97 dress gear trying to cheat for Joe is fine by me. I don't care if Haitch has been doing two-a-days getting ready. Eff it. Chill, Hunna. Chill.

Raw title: STROWMAN (c) vs Orton (SWERVE! Bray sits around in his hillbilly chair making faces / doing something close to nothing but different than the day before...)

US Title: Sami Zayn vs Owens vs Jericho (I'm greedy and I love Sami too much to see him not make this card after carrying lazy weekly shows in-ring and killing it on PPV all year)

SD title: Cena vs Angle (I'm greedy) (or Nak..still greedy)

IC title: Ambrose vs I don't care. At all. I have nothing. Roo Roo and Ziggla. Corbin too I guess. Yeah...that's fine. I don't care about Ambrose. It's not even Ambrose's 'fault' per se.

205 Title: Multi-man Ladder Match (gotta save 205Live somehow)

SD Women's Title: Neo Trish (c) vs Becky vs Hoss Bella

Raw Women's Title: Flair (c) vs Hugg Life vs Nia Jax. Jax gets the Brock triple threat treatment. Sasha limps out. Of course, she sells out Hugger to give Charlotte yet another PPV win and perhaps the seeds to a faction are set.

Miz vs Shane (cuz DB will never be cleared by WWE folks ageen)

Tag Team everyone on the card match cuz New Day and Certified Gs are too over to leave off. Cesaro too.

This mania can never happen cuz Vince's boyfriend has no title shot. And lawd knows Reigns needs another title shot somehow, some way (Jermaine Jackson - castle of sand loop in the background).

  

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52. "This Mania is about to be trash. "
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53. "They've stopped building to Manias"
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I think this is where the biggest issue has been the last few years. Mania used to be the event that feuds built all year towards.

KO/Jericho is really the only close thing to this of prospective matches. Maybe HHH vs Rollins but HHH has been off TV for months.

They have relied for 5+ years on bringing back a part timer like Rock or Batista to just main event Mania, or this year crammed a guy like Orton in that hasn't been striving to get there all year long. The main event used to be where HBK, Benoit, Cena at one point got the big break finally to win the big one. All year they built and built and then got there through the Rumble.

Now they start building WM feuds at the end of January and treat it like any other PPV where the feud developed for a month or two and then they fight. There's nothing special about it other than bigger names and a big arena. It's just the April PPV for whatever feud they feel like it's time to have.

AJ and Cena should have happened at Mania instead of the Rumble.
KO and Zayn should blow off their entire year of feuding
Sasha should finally be taking the belt from Charlotte at a PPV

That's what Mania is for. Even Bayley beating Charlotte for the belt at Mania is a very short term feud that could have happened at anytime, she wasn't involved until December.

  

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79. "RE: I'm hoping they take the NXT route with Charlotte's handover"
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>Sasha should finally be taking the belt from Charlotte at a
>PPV
>
>That's what Mania is for. Even Bayley beating Charlotte for
>the belt at Mania is a very short term feud that could have
>happened at anytime, she wasn't involved until December.

If they've got any sense Bayley won't have quite what it takes this time around with Charlotte... Sasha comes in and takes the belt to an all-time pop at Wrestlemania then turns heel on Raw... Bayley shouldn't get a proper look-in til Summerslam or even Survivor Series.

But they don't have any sense, so..

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81. "They see the money in Bayley"
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I don't think they've booked her well on the main roster, but you see the pop. She is over and kids are buying her merch. She is their female Cena and Vince sees it. I think she gets the giant WM rub by beating Charlotte and then we see the Sasha heel turn out of anger about it.

  

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54. "I dont understand how anyone could want a Cena/Taker match"
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I mean I just started watching again in August. Taker was one of my favorites as a kid. But good lord he looked fucking HORRIBLE out there. The old man gut and he could barely walk. The joke of the night on twitter was how the fuck was he going to be able to get down that long ass ramp in 2 minutes. There is no way he could go with Cena. Shit he was looking more like the Great Khali than Undertaker. This cant be the first time he has looked awful. It couldnt have just snuck up on him over his last break. He needs to throw in the towel.

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55. "He was driven to the ring "
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s

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69. "Yeah, but so was Braun and every other big man. "
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75. "Here's the cart in action. Big E is just the damn best, man"
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http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/wwe-royal-rumble-hustle-cart-atv-big-men/2/

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76. "holy fuck that's goofy looking"
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56. "Word is next Mania he'll have his retirement match vs Kane"
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Edit:

My bad, I misread the report.

Next Mania he'll have his retirement match vs a cane.

  

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57. "how does Kane look these days?"
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when I went to the house show in October he showed up and did a squash match against Tyler Breeze. He was able to walk normally and was still in impressive shape. The match consisted of Tyler Breeze asking for a selfie and Kane standing there silently. TB walks up slowly to take the selfie and Kane choke slammed him and pinned him. So I couldnt really tell from that. But it was entertaining.

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58. "he looks in good shape"
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i think he fixed his slight tan too so he doesn't look sickly anymore. sometimes i forget how physically imposing he is till i watch a match with him in the og kane gear. he was legit terrifying when he came in.

  

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59. "He's actually not far off his prime IMO"
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He's still in pretty good shape and can get it in from time to time.

I'm not trying to see him in a high profile mania match though.

  

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60. "RE: He's actually not far off his prime IMO"
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>He's still in pretty good shape and can get it in from time
>to time.
>
>I'm not trying to see him in a high profile mania match
>though.

This. That run as the Authority muscle killed me off on Kane for like forever.

He still should've been in the Rumble tho. I'm still mildly shocked at how Strow got thrown out. I hope he isn't getting pinned by Enzo 2 years from now (looks at poor previously monstrous Roo Roo). I know he's green and simple, but they've taken the time to build him. May as well do it.

  

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61. "Reigns has heel eyebrows. "
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>Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post. We're
>also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.

Maybe there's a plan. Or maybe not cuz someone somewhere other than just Vince loves him and the way he's booked to not sell anything for more than 5 minutes. Maybe this is all over-correction after he ate mad hate for laying in the back straight chillin during the 2016 Rumble off an injury angle only to look like the most colossal bitch ever when he came jogging back out with a full life bar until HHH SNK bossed him.

  

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62. "Hell. Mother. Fucking. Yes."
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Not sure where this goes from here.
Not at all excited for how the rest of the Mania card looks or even if this will make it to the mania card... But yeah.

I'll fucking take it.

Can't wait for this match.

  

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64. "I'm thinking a Handicap match at Mania"
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If you have Joe and Rollins go 1 on 1 and mania someone has to lose and Rollins has already had a rough year, a loss there may just send him to midcard for a while.

A Joe loss would go along with AJ losing at Mania last year, but if the storyline is that he is the chosen one of HHH then him losing his first big match at Mania makes no sense either.

2 on 1 covers for nobody wanting to see HHH wrestle every year and lets Rollins lose while looking great

  

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65. ""Meet your destroyer" would make me think it's just Joe/Rollins"
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particularly where he has no interest in joining in on the beatdown of Rollins. Either way, great angle. Actually earlier in the day I was thinking "Wait... all our fantasy booking scenarios has Joe on Smackdown. Raw could probably use him more right now."

  

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66. "Could we get a HHH led NXT stable?"
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I know that's basically the Nexus, but this is a chance to do it right.

You already have KO and Joe, add a few midcard and low level guys like Bo Dallas, or Tyler Breeze. Throw in a tag team like the Revival and you have a legit heel stable.

I say keep Finn out to be the face they feud with at the top, but this seems like an idea right there for the taking

  

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67. "KO, Joe, and Revival would be an incredible stable"
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I can't wait for the Revival to get the call-up.

  

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70. "No. No more HHH. Ok. as little HHH as possible."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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74. "I think they need HHH as a leader, just not overbearing"
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HHH brings them together, he is the one who signed them when nobody else in WWE would, gave them the opportunity others in the company didn't think they deserved etc...

I don't want him opening Raw each week as the authority, I just want him in a manager role, he gets the the opportunities and then they win

  

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68. "Damn, my interest in Smackdown has melted down to near zero"
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over the past month or two.

Went from A.J. Styles to (yawn) Cena.
The heat furnace Miz turned into *sigh* Dean Ambrose (a guy whose appeal I to this day don't understand, but I guess that's me)
A very interesting Wyatt family Tag champs have lost to American Alpha, and now Harper is a face??
And to top it off, Randy Orton is getting a title shot at Wrestlemania...

IMO all the spice that SD had has now become very bland...at least the show is only two hours long...

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71. "it's not just you RE: Ambrose"
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coming out of the Shield breakup they had a chance to turn him into a Stone Cold-esque baby face. The creative failed, the booking failed, and he didn't really take the ball and run with it either. His "I don't gaf" thing comes off more as "I don't care where this goes, I'm just along for the ride." Also his ringwork hasn't improved much if at all and is clearly the worst out of the 3.

Mostly I'm amazed his shitty tank and jeans has lasted nearly 3 years. Do they think this is an iconic look? It's distractingly boring.

  

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77. "I must admit that his match with A.J. was very good this weeek"
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>coming out of the Shield breakup they had a chance to turn
>him into a Stone Cold-esque baby face. The creative failed,
>the booking failed, and he didn't really take the ball and run
>with it either. His "I don't gaf" thing comes off more as "I
>don't care where this goes, I'm just along for the ride." Also
>his ringwork hasn't improved much if at all and is clearly the
>worst out of the 3.
>
>Mostly I'm amazed his shitty tank and jeans has lasted nearly
>3 years. Do they think this is an iconic look? It's
>distractingly boring.

but for the most part, I agree with you...he just kind of meanders through with no direction...he's not "wackjob" enough to pull it off for me. He needs to be a part of something to make him more relevant IMO.

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72. "Possibly a work but Seth hurt his knee again"
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I blame dad jeans.

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73. "just read its legit, but we'll see..."
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78. "Rock & Roll Express rumored for HOF. I fucking love this class"
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if true, that is.

Angle
DDP
Rick Rude
Beth Phoenix
Rock & Roll Express

Hopefully they add Christian to that mix.

I can't speak for anyone else but this is a geek out lineup for me personally since I hold every one of them in very high esteem.

They're all extremely significant entrants for very different reasons.

-Rude is in that 'all time most respected man's man/wrestler's wrestler' class with Hennig and Taker. Such a great promo and outside of Flair he had arguably the best work with Sting out of anyone. It's a shame his title run isn't in the Big Gold Belt lineage, but I digress. He also got some of the best work of Warriors career.

Think about that shit: This man got top quality matches out of both of the Blade Runners. His feud with Jake is one of my earliest memories. Such a memorable gimmick to boot.

-I'm an admitted DDP mark but his story is among the best. He had a HOF career but his post-wrestling body of work is one of the most noteworthy in the history of the business given that he's basically saving lives while also saving and/or extending careers. The only new star created by WCW dyring the Monday Night Wars and largely responsible for arguably one of, of not THE, best Goldberg match ever not to mention a role opposite Savage in one of the best feuds of the MNW.... and, as the story goes, Savage himself made the call to put him over clean.

He was also the first person to lay out an NWO member and played a key role in getting over the Crow sting gimmick. For some reason he's not looked at as a HOF headline caliber player but I disagree. He's got some very large feathers in his hat.

-Christian. A very influential and prominent tag team wrestler but uh... nah. that's not even the strongest selling point. Yes, for the kayfabe nature of the WWE HOF, but he's one of the best workers of his era and often spoken of as one of very best minds in the business for laying out matches. Everyone from DDP to Austin to Orton praises him to the rafters on that front.

-Beth. The Glamazon and her two girl team with Natalya was fantastic, as was her odd coupling with Santino. One of my all time favorite female wrestlers. Plus she's Mrs Edge.


  

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80. "SummerFest 1989 was the first PPV I ever watched..."
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Rude's match with Warrior was one of the show-stealers to us. Such a great and severely underrated match and the build was excellent. Rude was definitely a top tier act after that match in my eyes.

The way people like Austin and Bret talk about Rude is something else. Seemed like a class act all round.

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98. "RE: Ddp"
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I loved that dude's big WCW run. I was all over the cutter as my vote for best finisher in that era. When the aki games would drop, he'd be the first one I'd roll up on to see how many ways you could cutter someone.

And his Goldberg match was the goods.

I had no idea how old he was and how that helped ruin his wwe run. But yeah, hof easily.

>if true, that is.
>
>Angle
>DDP
>Rick Rude
>Beth Phoenix
>Rock & Roll Express
>
>Hopefully they add Christian to that mix.
>
>I can't speak for anyone else but this is a geek out lineup
>for me personally since I hold every one of them in very high
>esteem.
>
>They're all extremely significant entrants for very different
>reasons.
>
>-Rude is in that 'all time most respected man's man/wrestler's
>wrestler' class with Hennig and Taker. Such a great promo and
>outside of Flair he had arguably the best work with Sting out
>of anyone. It's a shame his title run isn't in the Big Gold
>Belt lineage, but I digress. He also got some of the best work
>of Warriors career.
>
>Think about that shit: This man got top quality matches out of
>both of the Blade Runners. His feud with Jake is one of my
>earliest memories. Such a memorable gimmick to boot.
>
>-I'm an admitted DDP mark but his story is among the best. He
>had a HOF career but his post-wrestling body of work is one of
>the most noteworthy in the history of the business given that
>he's basically saving lives while also saving and/or extending
>careers. The only new star created by WCW dyring the Monday
>Night Wars and largely responsible for arguably one of, of not
>THE, best Goldberg match ever not to mention a role opposite
>Savage in one of the best feuds of the MNW.... and, as the
>story goes, Savage himself made the call to put him over
>clean.
>
>He was also the first person to lay out an NWO member and
>played a key role in getting over the Crow sting gimmick. For
>some reason he's not looked at as a HOF headline caliber
>player but I disagree. He's got some very large feathers in
>his hat.
>
>-Christian. A very influential and prominent tag team wrestler
>but uh... nah. that's not even the strongest selling point.
>Yes, for the kayfabe nature of the WWE HOF, but he's one of
>the best workers of his era and often spoken of as one of very
>best minds in the business for laying out matches. Everyone
>from DDP to Austin to Orton praises him to the rafters on that
>front.
>
>-Beth. The Glamazon and her two girl team with Natalya was
>fantastic, as was her odd coupling with Santino. One of my all
>time favorite female wrestlers. Plus she's Mrs Edge.
>
>
>

  

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82. "The Bucks of Youth vs Broken Brilliance will actually happen"
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http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/its-official-young-bucks-will-face-matt-and-jeff-hardy-supercard-honor?utm_content=buffer7d8d0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

IT'S OFFICIAL! THE YOUNG BUCKS WILL FACE MATT AND JEFF HARDY AT SUPERCARD OF HONOR

The eyes of the wrestling world will be on the Lakeland Center on Saturday April 1 stars from around the globe converge in Central Florida for SUPERCARD OF HONOR XI. Stars from Ring of Honor, New Japan Pro-Wrestling, and CMLL will do battle throughout one of the biggest nights of hard-hitting, fast-paced, in-your-face action in Ring of Honor history!

The ROH Executive Committee has promised championships to be contended, first-time appearances from New Japan and CMLL, and is excited to announce the first round of ROH stars that have been signed to participate in the biggest Supercard of Honor, ever! Check back throughout each day next week as ROHWrestling.com celebrates Supercard of Honor Announcement Week with international participants revealed, championship matches signed, and information on how to meet all of your favorite ROH, NJPW, and CMLL stars!

Tag team wrestling has never been hotter in Ring of Honor, boasting one of the deepest rosters of teams in company history. At the top of the mountain sit the Young Bucks. The two-time ROH World Tag Team Champions have blazed a trail never before seen in wrestling, breaking rules and records along the way. Matt and Nick Jackson have used their athleticism and their vast array of influences to capture the attention of the wrestling world.

Perhaps, to their surprise, their reach crossed previously unbreached borders. Indeed, the Bucks of Youth had made their impression and their message spread far across the Hardy Compound, straight to the ears of #Broken Matt Hardy and Brother Nero!

One of the most decorated teams of all-time, Jeff and Matt Hardy have held world tag team championships in every organization in which they have been a part. The brothers used death-defying high flying and athleticism to become stars around the globe. Some even say their successes have laid the ground work for the Bucks to be able to have the success they have.

Appearing via satellite at Final Battle, Matt Hardy declared that the Hardys have been “mandated to prove they are the greatest tag team in all of time and all of space”, issuing an official challenge to “the Bucks of Youth”. In their mission to render the Bucks obsolete, the Hardys have promised to DELETE the Young Bucks!

After a recent appearance by Vanguard-1 on Ring of Honor television, the ROH World Tag Team Champions the Young Bucks have officially signed to face the Hardys at the BIGGEST Supercard of Honor ever! This dream tag team match will happen LIVE in Lakeland and will not be broadcast. The only way to see this one is to be there LIVE!

The new ROH Executive Board has been working around the clock to sign a match that few thought could happen. As ROH continues to break barriers and sign matches only dreamed of in 2017, there is only one question heading into the BIGGEST night in ROH history: Too Sweet or Delete?

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83. "RE: The Bucks of Youth vs Broken Brilliance will actually happen"
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Delete.

It's gonna be glorious but the greatest tag team in all space and time shall be victorious.

>http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/its-official-young-bucks-will-face-matt-and-jeff-hardy-supercard-honor?utm_content=buffer7d8d0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
>
>IT'S OFFICIAL! THE YOUNG BUCKS WILL FACE MATT AND JEFF HARDY
>AT SUPERCARD OF HONOR
>
>The eyes of the wrestling world will be on the Lakeland Center
>on Saturday April 1 stars from around the globe converge in
>Central Florida for SUPERCARD OF HONOR XI. Stars from Ring of
>Honor, New Japan Pro-Wrestling, and CMLL will do battle
>throughout one of the biggest nights of hard-hitting,
>fast-paced, in-your-face action in Ring of Honor history!
>
>The ROH Executive Committee has promised championships to be
>contended, first-time appearances from New Japan and CMLL, and
>is excited to announce the first round of ROH stars that have
>been signed to participate in the biggest Supercard of Honor,
>ever! Check back throughout each day next week as
>ROHWrestling.com celebrates Supercard of Honor Announcement
>Week with international participants revealed, championship
>matches signed, and information on how to meet all of your
>favorite ROH, NJPW, and CMLL stars!
>
>Tag team wrestling has never been hotter in Ring of Honor,
>boasting one of the deepest rosters of teams in company
>history. At the top of the mountain sit the Young Bucks. The
>two-time ROH World Tag Team Champions have blazed a trail
>never before seen in wrestling, breaking rules and records
>along the way. Matt and Nick Jackson have used their
>athleticism and their vast array of influences to capture the
>attention of the wrestling world.
>
>Perhaps, to their surprise, their reach crossed previously
>unbreached borders. Indeed, the Bucks of Youth had made their
>impression and their message spread far across the Hardy
>Compound, straight to the ears of #Broken Matt Hardy and
>Brother Nero!
>
>One of the most decorated teams of all-time, Jeff and Matt
>Hardy have held world tag team championships in every
>organization in which they have been a part. The brothers used
>death-defying high flying and athleticism to become stars
>around the globe. Some even say their successes have laid the
>ground work for the Bucks to be able to have the success they
>have.
>
>Appearing via satellite at Final Battle, Matt Hardy declared
>that the Hardys have been “mandated to prove they are the
>greatest tag team in all of time and all of space”, issuing
>an official challenge to “the Bucks of Youth”. In their
>mission to render the Bucks obsolete, the Hardys have promised
>to DELETE the Young Bucks!
>
>After a recent appearance by Vanguard-1 on Ring of Honor
>television, the ROH World Tag Team Champions the Young Bucks
>have officially signed to face the Hardys at the BIGGEST
>Supercard of Honor ever! This dream tag team match will happen
>LIVE in Lakeland and will not be broadcast. The only way to
>see this one is to be there LIVE!
>
>The new ROH Executive Board has been working around the clock
>to sign a match that few thought could happen. As ROH
>continues to break barriers and sign matches only dreamed of
>in 2017, there is only one question heading into the BIGGEST
>night in ROH history: Too Sweet or Delete?
>
>

  

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84. "Crap"
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Reigns had to ruin things on the first day...

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85. ":( they took my Corbin-Taker pitch and gave it to Reigns"
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I know they've called him the big dog for a minute but spit out the "my yard"
bit tonight. Taker will inevitably take note.

As long as he doesn't duck up Kane I'm good but it looks like they're gonna run with the 'big dog in the yard' aspect of my pitch.

  

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87. "I'm fine with Reigns-Taker"
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Not sure the matchup does Reigns any favors, but the only story Taker can tell is the slow-plodding match that looks brutal in spots. I'm just worried the rest of the card will be disappointing which will make an underwhelming Reigns-Taker match that much harder to swallow, especially if they put Reigns over.

  

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92. "RE: I'm fine with Reigns-Taker"
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>Not sure the matchup does Reigns any favors, but the only
>story Taker can tell is the slow-plodding match that looks
>brutal in spots. I'm just worried the rest of the card will be
>disappointing which will make an underwhelming Reigns-Taker
>match that much harder to swallow, especially if they put
>Reigns over.

I'm not scurred about Mania. It is almost a lock that it won't be as absurdly special as it could be given the roster they have available. But I figure they'll have no choice but to stumble into some good stuff. There's a lot of lemonade-making mofos on the scene so they just need to put them together.

Locks?
Raw Title: Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar
US Title: Jericho vs Owens
HHH vs A barely ready Rollins (with Joe in tow)
Shaq vs Show? Or Show vs Stro is Shaq is on dem cheetos?

Guesses not wishes:
They are going to catch hell getting everyone onto this show so I'm guessing there'll be LOTS of combo matches (3-8 entities in matches)

Taker vs Reigns. Match might be lame cuz Mark is likely done physically. Taker wins or they turn Reigns forreal.
?Orton vs Wyatt?
Styles has to get in somewhere: Smackdown title match? VS Balor for Bullet Club formation? Whut?
?Strowman vs Zayn ageen?

Cena/Nikki vs Miz/Maryse? I still kinda hate it but I get it if DB can never ever ever be cleared to get into a WWE ring even one good time. Cena makes the save somehow and the proposal jumps off after they win.

IC title combo match: Ambrose, Ziggla, Cesaro, and others
Tag Team combo match..both shows.
Charlotte w/title vs Bayley vs Jax vs Bawse
Lynch vs Alexa vs Naomi vs Mickie James

Andre Battle Royale: aka get some folks on the show. Corbin, 10, and friends.

  

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93. "I don't think this mixed tag is actually going to happen"
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>
>Cena/Nikki vs Miz/Maryse? I still kinda hate it but I get it
>if DB can never ever ever be cleared to get into a WWE ring
>even one good time. Cena makes the save somehow and the
>proposal jumps off after they win.

Vince mighta thrown it out there to test the waters, but I can't imagine they want Cena to be wasted in a mixed tag. And Miz for that matter. I'd rather he be in the IC title ladder match (that seems to be annual now). I think it'll be a straight singles match btw Cena and Miz and then find something for Nikki to do. Maybe make the SD women's title a 5-way, turn up the heat on the Natty feud, or bring up Asuka to go over on her before she takes a break.

  

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86. "OKPW Prediction Series: Elimination Chamber"
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Linkage: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RZgRvUsyrRwPDsnlMGaeo3ymxXn0duAuyi0Soi5Urnc/edit?usp=sharing

Final Card:
Elimination Chamber match for the WWE Championship: John Cena (c) vs. AJ Styles vs. Dean Ambrose vs. The Miz vs. Baron Corbin vs. Bray Wyatt
Randy Orton v. Luke Harper
Tag team turmoil match for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship: American Alpha (c) vs. Heath Slater & Rhyno vs. Breezango vs. The Usos vs. The Ascension vs. The Vaudevillains
WWE SmackDown Women's Championship: Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Naomi
Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James
Apollo Crews and Kalisto vs. Dolph Ziggler
Nikki Bella vs. Natalya

Bonus Questions:
What is the opening match of the main show?
Which team is eliminated first in the tag team turmoil match?
Which 2 men will start the Elimination Chamber match? (1 pt for each correct guess)
Who is the first person eliminated in the Elimination Chamber?
Who is the last person to enter the Elimination Chamber match?

  

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88. "Looking forward to Orton-Harper the most."
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This could be a fun card mostly because Smackdown is well-run, but I know better than to get excited for Elimination Chamber. Kinda hate the tendency to throw a bunch of tag teams in a title match just cause you didn't have proper time to set things up, but this card is all about setting up Mania and nothing more. 3 women's matches is cool but I've had no interest in Nikki/Natty and Alexa/Naomi will likely be forgettable. This Ziggler heel turn better get turned up a notch on Sunday cause so far it's been meh.

I'm optimistic on Harper. Can he squeeze into the title picture if Wyatt wins? We all know he can wrestle and he always surprises us when he touches the mic. I don't want him to become the Wyatt's weekly punching bag.

  

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96. "RE: Ziggla..."
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>This could be a fun card mostly because Smackdown is
>well-run, but I know better than to get excited for
>Elimination Chamber. Kinda hate the tendency to throw a bunch
>of tag teams in a title match just cause you didn't have
>proper time to set things up, but this card is all about
>setting up Mania and nothing more. 3 women's matches is cool
>but I've had no interest in Nikki/Natty and Alexa/Naomi will
>likely be forgettable. This Ziggler heel turn better get
>turned up a notch on Sunday cause so far it's been meh.
>
>I'm optimistic on Harper. Can he squeeze into the title
>picture if Wyatt wins? We all know he can wrestle and he
>always surprises us when he touches the mic. I don't want him
>to become the Wyatt's weekly punching bag.

Doesn't he need to a heavy? Another Big E?

His offense is basically never going to be great, and it looks at least a tad worse in this era of slightly reformed ex-indy dudes bringing all sorts of finishers and signature moves to the shows. And this era of hossery doesn't help either. So, creating an illusion that he's 'doing enough damage' to pin someone would be aided greatly by having a big/heavy/bodyguard to add-on a few classic heel shenanigans. I'm halfway hoping that it isn't Uhaaa who ends up doing it, but that's one way to go. The most hilarious one would be Corbin but I think folks out back like him too much to put him in that role.

  

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89. "Rumble shook up the standings big time"
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90. "credit where it's due: the booking hasn't been predictable"
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and the numbers show that. I thought we'd all easily be hovering about 67% by now but it's closer to 50-50 for all of us.

  

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94. "Our picks say this PPV is very predictable"
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WWE has been doing a good job of making people think one thing and sending it another, it will be interesting to see if they go down the obvious path tonight.

There are 5 matches that so far have either 100% consensus or just 1 person against the consensus pick.

  

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95. "that's the downfall of these pre-Mania ppvs"
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anyone paying attention largely knows the outcome, and that's even with both of these titles likely to change hands.

  

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91. "TNA: Lashley vs Wolf"
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>Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post. We're
>also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.

They've snuck around and had a solid series of matches over the last several months. Lashley showed a decent amount of ass for the smaller man throughout while occasionally playing the Brock-ish 'I got this' role solidly.

The ending of the last match was heavy-handed, but TNA is gonna TNA and I'm old with a crazy number of years and hours logged watching this stuff so hey.

Of course, I've only seen these matches because of Matt Hardy so that deal is still working out well for TNA. I'm ready to laugh about how this teleportation/Expedition of Gold will go. All indies should be glad to get themselves on TV even if it is TNA so I expect that some good times are available. And when Bucks of Youth go against Broken Brilliance, goodness will be upon us. Matt has lurked around and gotten himself into pretty good shape. And as broken down as he is, Jeff is still willing to Jeff it up when called upon.

  

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97. "RE: Sensible Dinners for Show?"
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https://twitter.com/WWETheBigShow/status/829756520585912322

Damn mane! Paul ain't playin. Shaq better be secretly doing squirrelly situps. I wonder if they are really still even doing that? Maybe that's gonna be a Raw one-off and Show is actually working with Strowman at Mania?

  

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99. "This show is dragging due to lack of heat."
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100. "Genuinely shocked they put the belt on Naomi...."
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104. "Yes, happy for her but never saw that coming."
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101. "Technically I did pick the first two guys in the match...."
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102. "RE: Wrestling Post: Royal Rumble and the road to WrestleMania"
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>Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post. We're
>also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.

Sometimes the obvious call is the right one. And they let him go over like an adult. That's sweet and if didn't take swerves.

I don't luv how they had Corbin go out but at least he murked Ambrose before rolling out.

  

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103. "Wow really? I thought the way they worked Corbin was nice. "
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He already laid everyone out and Miz has been talking shit for a few weeks plus he's still a rookie so I get how he'd lose his focus like that.

I know you mentioned the way he destroyed Ambrose after but I think that's the part to focus on here. I'm guessing that's gonna be the Mania IC match. I think Corbin is worth investing in and I thought they have him significant shine tonight and wisely used this match to give him a meaningful angle since he wasn't going to win.

I'm encouraged that they're inching him forward while allowing him to visit the main event scene.

  

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106. "same, I don't really mind a big guy being surprised with a rollup"
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First one eliminated but realistically that was going to be either him or Miz and he did some damage. I think they did a good job of making everyone look strong. I usually hate the chamber but this one was good.

  

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105. "Poor Crews..."
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Zero sympathy from the crowd; can't believe they were actually chanting "Thank you Ziggler" as Crews is selling a shattered ankle.

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107. "the guy has the charisma of a wet sock"
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can't blame the crowd for not caring

  

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109. "Disagree completely. Have you ever worn wet socks?"
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It feels horrible.

It’s clammy and uncomfortable and definitely elicits a strong negative response from most people who step in a puddle.

Conversely, people seem to feel absolutely nothing toward Crews.

  

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110. "can't argue with this logic"
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108. "I actually feel worse for Dolph."
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Because he’s getting fucked out of heat.

Crews has never done anything for me at all and IMO should have stayed in NXT. In fact I think he needs to go back down. I think he’d be a greater asset there and could use some time to create a character.

Because that’s the problem with Crews, there’s nothing there.
He’s strong. He smiles. He can do a backflip. He’ll defend his friends.

But that’s it. That’s about all we know. That’s not a character.

It’s not a gimmick or personality. It’s just a list of basic qualities that you would generally want any baby face to have.

Because of that Crews was about the worst opponent for Dolph right now.

Particularly in a fan culture that currently defies traditional lines of good and evil as it is, a lot of Dolph’s fans were bored of his prior shtick and just wanted to see him heat up somehow, turning him was going to get him some love anyways so having him beat down a guy who doesn’t say or do anything to make anyone care about him is a recipe for disaster for everyone involved.

Crews is such a bland, generic character that gives people no real reason to cheer or boo him and this pretty much proves it. People didn’t even really care when Corbin was whooping his ass, but Dolph still has a base who just wants to see him utilized better and that was all bad for both guys IMO.

  

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111. "Crews is a face that NXT needs right now"
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He could be a great next opponent for Roode, especially if he had been there this last year working on himself.

They got excited about him and moved him too early and right now NXT is lacking some main event faces, outside of Nak and Dillinger (Who isn't main event material) all of their biggest male stars right now are heels.

Revival, Authors of Pain, Sanity, Roode are the most interesting people in NXT and Crewes would be doing great there right now.

  

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114. "You beat me to the point..."
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I think Crews' only problem is that he came up too early, which isn't really his fault. He definitely needed more time in a developmental environment and would have been a great poster boy for NXT.

He's immensely talented so hope they'll work effectively to listen to the disastrous reaction he got and go from there.

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115. "They could probably spin him into an interesting heel from here"
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Maybe he has no real personality and can only smile and do flips and is just kinda screwed, but being a heel is much easier.

You rest him with this ankle injury for a few months and then have him come back on some Rock's first heel turn style. All I heard was Thank you Ziggler can be the new All I heard was Die Rocky Die.

Give him a serious attitude, let him power through people and I think the crowd could react

  

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124. "I'd actually team him with Ziggler..."
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Not a tag team but more of an alliance. Crews could agree with Dolph's new attitude of 'working hard and playing fair gets you nowhere especially if fans react the way they did'. Could be a good moment - have Ziggler in the ring doing his post-match beatdown to someone, Crews music hits, everyone thinks he's there to make the save but he ends up joining in.

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112. "word. they couldn't have picked 2 more boring faces for Zigs"
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Kalisto is kinda sorta close to being cared about (by the kids mostly) but Crews has no reaction from the crowd. plus Ziggler's a heel who cheated severely and still lost. i just don't get it. even with a post-match beatdown it does nobody involved any favors.

  

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113. "Agreed about Crews, but Dolph's biggest problem is still himself."
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We have never seen him be able to play anything but the smart-ass, cool heel, and hence he never gets real heel heat.

I guess, recognizing this, they're going with the dastardly, ankle-snapping-in-chair bit, but I don't know if that's gonna work either (esp. with Crews, as you wrote).

I think a better idea is to do some blurred work/shoot real life stuff, like Edge stealing Lita or Jericho punching HBK's wife, something really out of bounds, involving a real fan favorite, and just so immoral that even the smarks feel a little queasy.

Like push Shane O'Mac's wife down a flight of stairs. Or a worked domestic abuse charge with Noelle Foley. Something like that would probably do it.

  

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117. "I would paint Crews in the mode of "Money' Mayweather "
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Mayweather and Crews have similar story arcs, Floyd was painted as all American good guy, while talented did really catch on until, he adopted the Money persona. Crews seems to be in the in the same spot. I wouldn't do a straight copy the Money persona, but take elements like the cockiness and bragging. Have him go on a winning streak, call out other wrestlers and berate them berate the fans, etc.

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116. "Teddy Long is HoF bound!"
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They couldn't have waited for a year that they only inducted tag teams?

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118. "Fuck. What if SD gets a triple threat at Mania?"
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Or worse?

Just had a thought.

Since WWE has that rematch clause when the champion loses his title….
What are the odds that we get stuck with Cena coming out tomorrow and demanding his rematch at Mania and getting added to that match…
or worse…

Bray is basically 1998 Kane and Cena gets the strap back tomorrow and we get stuck with Cena-Orton Part XIVVIIX?

Clearly there are far, far more serious things to “worry” about in the world but just the thought of either scenario kinda sucks.

The plus here is I guess Maryse and Nikki had a backstage altercation at some point last night so that rumored mixed tag may well have legs.

  

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119. "I think Cena will be in the Mania triple threat for sure"
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Chasing #17 at Mania is too big of a story to not at least look at it.

  

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125. "Word on the sheets is Cena/Nikki Vs Miz/Maryse "
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Which isn't exactly fantasy booking, but I'd rather they didn't shoehorn Cena into a promising Wyatt family angle.

I'd honestly like them to go all-in with Randy/Bray... get it down the darkest possible avenues over the next however-many weeks and book it as a Heel Vs Heel for the ages... Bray goes over CLEAN with them embracing Face V Face style at the end then bringing out Luke, Rowan and Braun to reunite the Family stronger than ever.

They should run the match last and have the show close with Bray snuffing the candle >>> stream goes dead.

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120. "I doubt they'd have Cena win #17 in a Triple Threat..."
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I feel like this quickie reign for Cena was just to get #16 out of the way, then they'll build toward him winning #17 at Summerslam.

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121. "Agreed."
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Summerslam or Mania next year. They're gonna wanna build it up quite a bit. I also don't see Cena's 17th playing second fiddle on a card, which it'll have to do with Goldberg/Lesnar.

  

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122. "Bayley won this WAY too early."
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Sasha and Charlotte are the only ones who should hold that title for a while. No one else is ready.

  

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123. "I'm sure they're just gonna continue trading it amongst each other..."
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... but I agree they should've saved Bayley's win for 'Mania. Would've been an even bigger moment, especially if she did it spoiling Charlotte's PPV streak. Guessing we'll get a Triple Threat now, but I wouldn't get surprised if the belt changes hands once or twice before then.

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129. "RE: I'm sure they're just gonna continue trading it amongst each other....."
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That was a damn good match....But I doubt they let her hold that belt for long....Would have been better on a Pay Per View.....

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126. "Stupid stupid stupid booking"
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I get it, the women's title changes hands a lot. They are all so equal.

That worked well for Sasha vs Charlotte, but god damn.

Bayley's entire gimmick is built around being the underdog, no matter how hard she tries she just can't get there and the fans love her more everytime she fails. It took her years to win in NXT, she watched everyone else pass her, win the title and move on and it took a miracle with a broken hand to finally win it. It was the best wrestling story of the year.

Then she wins in what I think is her first title shot on the main roster?

I love Bayley, but fuck did they squander a great story that can never be told again. You don't get that kind of build on a 2nd title reign...save Daniel Bryan which was something special.

  

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128. "Yep, can't believe they've fluffed it this bad."
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130. "YUP"
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>I get it, the women's title changes hands a lot. They are all
>so equal.
>
>That worked well for Sasha vs Charlotte, but god damn.

People argued about that booking, and they're not 100% wrong, but the story was they're dead even as competitors and it was an effective way to tell that story. That's not the story of Charlotte vs. Bayley. As you said, she's the underdog. Where's the big mountain to climb now?

Plus I just don't think she's ready for all the mic work that comes with being champ. She's been atrocious in interviews and needs more work. Frankly I wanted Charlotte to keep it past Mania, but yeah, at least save it for then.

  

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132. "Thing is you know Charlotte will win it back quick"
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Either fast lane or Mania, so I don't get why you would waste Bayley's first reign like that.

My guess is Charlotte wins at Fast Lane and Bayley wins it at Mania ending her streak. If that is the case why not just wait for Mania for the bigger pay of?

  

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127. "The Festival of Friendship"
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Owens will be hated even more than Roman after that
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131. "fantastic segment"
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and RIP to a great heel run by Jericho. So good that he's instantly the biggest babyface on Raw.

  

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133. "He's gotta be out til at least Fastlane"
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Where he somehow helps Goldberg win. Can't wait to be there in person
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134. "this will make a Goldberg win much easier to swallow"
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140. "Can Goldberg be booked as a guy that needs help to win, though?"
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144. "No, particularly because that'll make Brock look terrible..."
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Goldberg beats the most unstoppable monster wrestling has ever seen in 90 seconds, but needs help to beat the pudgy indie dude with a dirty beard?

If the match goes longer than 30 seconds, they're gonna need to do something to justify why Owens could hang with Goldberg when Brock couldn't. Personally, I'm hoping Owens jacks Bret Hart's "steel plate under the shirt" gimmick, so Goldberg knocks himself silly attempting to surprise him with a spear right out of the gate. It wouldn't end the match, but it'd at least give Goldberg a logical reason to be fighting from behind.

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150. "brilliant points..."
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I was worried that Owens would get squashed which would subsequently lead to him taking his frustrations out on Jericho the next night. If they plan on Owens/Goldberg being an actual match then they'll need to do something to level the playing field and the steel plate thing would garner a great reaction.

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159. "PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!! "
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That's definitely an idea worth using here. I'd love to see KO with the strap at Mania.

  

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145. "good point"
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i suppose it's all about execution but i can't think of a scenario off the top of my head where he wouldn't look weak. it is goldberg after all. his clean losses are in the single digits to this day

  

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147. "Maybe Brock attacks Bill during his entrance...."
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151. "I hope that doesn't happen..."
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Only because Lesnar should realise that he gets the title match at Mania if Goldberg wins so why ruin it for himself?

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152. "he could always just headbutt a locker or something"
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141. "Am I crazy for thinking they're *not* gonna put the belt on Goldberg?"
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Everyone's treating this like it's a foregone conclusion that Owens is losing, but I kinda think they set this match up mostly as a way for Brock to get his heat back by costing Goldberg the championship, thus giving Goldberg some actual motivation for facing an opponent he's already proven multiple times that he can thoroughly dominate. Lord knows that match doesn't need to have a belt involved. It'd ultimately just mean that Brock would end up with the title anyway, and I dunno why they'd want t do that unless they want to build to a Lesnar-Finn Balor program...which, y'know, could be awesome, but still.

And if they keep Owens the champion going into Wrestlemania, and continue to play their cards right, the KO-Jericho feud could have enough heat behind it to close the show. I've been trying to think of a match that could conceivably headline and where it'd make sense to have the babyface go over, and this could be the one.

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143. "I don't think it's necessarily a forgone conclusion"
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And as I've said a million times before: they like to throw rumors out there just to swerve people, so I hope that's happening here. However it does make sense with the story they're telling and what Vince usually likes for Mania. Now that Jericho has the US title they'll still have something to fight over and I can see Vince preferring to put the universal title in the biggest match (frankly, that would put the title over more with casual fans who probably don't know KO and definitely don't know what this red title is).

  

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155. ""It's art, you don't need pants!" is the most legit funny line in WWE..."
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... since "The Rock thinks you should fire him, Vince."

The whole thing is up there with the most effective breakups in wrestling history, right alongside the Rockers and Owen "kicking Bret's leg out of his leg."

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169. "i was dying when he said that"
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And repeated it to my niece when she was talking about the naked statues at a museum.

  

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135. "my son is on board the Roman Reigns hate train "
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this morning we were watching last nights Raw while getting ready for school/work. When the Roman Reigns 2 on 1 match started he just said ughhhh I am getting so tired of Roman Reigns. Why does he always wrestle. Doesnt Mick Foley have any other wrestlers? Fast forward to the Strowman/Henry match and he is excited about this one. He loves both of them. When Roman Reigns comes out he was pissed! AWWW COME ON! NOT AGAIN! When Reigns lands those first two superman punches he yelled a bit more and told me to turn it off. When he finally gets beat up he was happy. But yeah WWE has managed to turn him from a huge Roman Reigns fan to despising him in 4 months. Great job WWE.

Also he was pissed when Reigns came out as #30 in the Rumble.

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137. "This is what I've been saying. Kids don't love Roman like Cena"
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he gets some love, but it's nowhere near the pop John had/has from the family crowd. On the other side of things, the smarks were mad about Cena but that made them watch to see him lose. When Reigns loses it's a sigh of relief, we're more just bored by him.

  

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154. "the funny thing is he doesnt hate anyone in wrestling"
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>he gets some love, but it's nowhere near the pop John had/has
>from the family crowd. On the other side of things, the smarks
>were mad about Cena but that made them watch to see him lose.
>When Reigns loses it's a sigh of relief, we're more just bored
>by him.

he likes more guys than others. He wasnt too upset that Cena lost the belt. He just said why do you give Cena the belt and have him lose it right away Vince? But there are things he likes about every wrestler. But right now Roman Reigns is on his shit list.

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136. "they won't but they should have Bray Wyatt go over at Mania"
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so many fresh programs you could have Bray in. Heel Bray vs Face AJ, Face Bray vs Heel Miz, Face Bray vs Heel Cena (WHAAA???)

  

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138. "RE: they won't but they should have Bray Wyatt go over at Mania"
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> Face Bray vs Heel Cena
>(WHAAA???)

Face Bray vs Heel Hogan
Heel Bray vs Face Jake the Snake
Tweener Bray vs Face Stone Cold

All of these are as likely.

But I do agree with you, mostly because it took Bray several years to get his first singles title and it would be pretty lame to just make him the transitional champ for a month to avoid Cena vs Orton.

  

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139. "I think he'll go over"
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I mean he better, but they have to recognize that Orton doesn't need it, right?

  

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142. "You would think, but Goldberg/Lesnar doesn't need it either"
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153. "you ain't lying."
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146. "Based on the end of Elimination Chamber, I'd love to see Bray-AJ..."
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... None of those other combos are super exciting, but then, they're better than Orton vs. basically anybody.

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148. "Is there anyone who WANTS to see an Orton title reign?"
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I was away from wrestling from 02 til last year so I missed his whole career, but he seems boring as shit
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163. "blandy don't have the passion to live up to his talent"
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that nigga clean as shit in the ring. but you can tell he's always going through the motions.

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149. "I definitely think Bray's going over..."
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Don't think we'll get two new world champs at Mania. The rumble winner is always expected to take the title so I think Bray retaining is the swerve.

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156. "PLEASE con't say it"
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i snatchyou bald makes an appearance

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157. "Randy Orton relinquishes title shot"
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He said as long as Bray is champ he will not fight for the title then kneeled in front of him. On Talking Smack Daniel Bryan announced there will be a battle royale for the #1 contender spot.

  

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158. "Lesnar tells UFC he's done shoot-fighting"
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http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/18687517/ex-ufc-champion-brock-lesnar-retires-mma-competition

  

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160. "George "The Animal" Steele passed away"
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http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2017/2/17/14649028/wwe-hall-of-famer-george-the-animal-steele-died-age-79

doesn't look like anyone posted about Chavo Sr. so here you go:

http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2017/2/11/14587380/chavo-guerrero-dies-age-68

  

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161. "As did Nicole Bass"
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162. "Im gonna try a new bit here: Pro Wrestling Podcast Of The Week"
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Disclaimer so I don’t look like *too* much of a dork:

I spend about 50 hours a week in a cubicle plus 15 hours a week commuting, so that’s why I have so much time to consume so much audio content.

Anyhow, I listen to the following pro wrestling podcasts on a weekly basis:

-Bischoff
-Ryback
-Steve Austin
-Jericho
-Booker T
-Jim Ross
-Bruce Pritchard
-PW Torch
-Meltzer & Alvarez
-Solomonster Sounds Off

The last three are more analysis/hot take/opinion based whereas the rest are more interview based.

I’m not sure which of these- if any- you guys listen to but I’ll post up at least once a week with a recommendation. Every one of these provides something worthwhile in here and everyone thankfully has a unique approach.

This week’s recommendation is actually three in one: Go back and check the last three eps of Bischoff on Wrestling. This week was a very good Gene Okerlund interview and about 40 minutes of answering emails. Gene is every bit as forward as you’d expect.

The prior two eps were with Lex Luger, which I long anticipated since Bischoff never really cared for Lex. They cover the entirety of Lex’s career across the two ep’s and it’s one of my favorite listens all year.

Future posts will have a much more focused review format. If anyone has a request for a particular podcast, let me know.

I will say my standing recommendation would be Bruce Pritchard’s “Something To Wrestle With” since much of his format zeroes in on a particular event, wrestler, or both and tell the tale behind it.

IE, he broke down Vader’s WWE run and explained why it turned out the way it did.

He also has similar eps about Rick Rude, Dibiase, Hennig and Pillman.

  

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164. "I have been going through wrestling podcasts like crazy"
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I only work 2 days a week. But that 45 minute drive each way is enough for 4 episodes a week. Wrestlers have great stories.

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165. "Which ones are you listening to?"
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You might dig the Torch. It's basically current, in depth pro-sports style analysis and perspective.

Some prefer Meltzer to Keller on this front but for my money I think the Torch offers a better, more well rounded cast of analysts with different perspectives.

That said, given your limited listening time I'd probably recommend Solomonster Sounds Off instead.

It's weekly recap of Raw & Smackdown from a life long fan with a pretty deep knowledge of the business and one of the more consistently interesting 'mail bag' segments. Dude's won like three straight podcast of the year awards and that's going against Steve Austin, The Torch, Jericho, etc. It's very fan friendly and probably my #1.

  

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166. "Right now I go more for interviews"
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So most of it is Talk Is Jericho and Stone Cold. I don't care for the analysis and breakdown shows. I mean Raw and Smackdown are 5 hours and hard enough to get through I don't want to relive them. Well not right away at least. I've done a couple that recapped older ppvs and those were fun. But shit they are long and having to listen in in 3 or 4 parts is tough.

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167. "RE: wonderful!"
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>Disclaimer so I don’t look like *too* much of a dork:
>

Good looking out! I can't imagine taking in that many podcasts with how much I dig music. And my office work involved too many people rolling into my office out of nowhere wanting/needing something, so I might catch 5 hours of listening in-office on a good week. I get about half of my transit eaten up with phone calls unfortunately.

And more of my podcast-listening revolves around fantasy football season.

I got burned out on Stone Cold and Ross but now it's clear that I need to revisit the situation. Thanks Cold.

But that Luger stuff and a Vader WWE explanation is right up my alley. I tend to dig those more than the hot take festivals where folks chase WWE around the country to complain and knitpick about them. Ie: Russo.

>I spend about 50 hours a week in a cubicle plus 15 hours a
>week commuting, so that’s why I have so much time to consume
>so much audio content.
>
>Anyhow, I listen to the following pro wrestling podcasts on a
>weekly basis:
>
>-Bischoff
>-Ryback
>-Steve Austin
>-Jericho
>-Booker T
>-Jim Ross
>-Bruce Pritchard
>-PW Torch
>-Meltzer & Alvarez
>-Solomonster Sounds Off
>
>The last three are more analysis/hot take/opinion based
>whereas the rest are more interview based.
>
>I’m not sure which of these- if any- you guys listen to but
>I’ll post up at least once a week with a recommendation.
>Every one of these provides something worthwhile in here and
>everyone thankfully has a unique approach.
>
>This week’s recommendation is actually three in one: Go back
>and check the last three eps of Bischoff on Wrestling. This
>week was a very good Gene Okerlund interview and about 40
>minutes of answering emails. Gene is every bit as forward as
>you’d expect.
>
>The prior two eps were with Lex Luger, which I long
>anticipated since Bischoff never really cared for Lex. They
>cover the entirety of Lex’s career across the two ep’s and
>it’s one of my favorite listens all year.
>
>Future posts will have a much more focused review format. If
>anyone has a request for a particular podcast, let me know.
>
>I will say my standing recommendation would be Bruce
>Pritchard’s “Something To Wrestle With” since much of
>his format zeroes in on a particular event, wrestler, or both
>and tell the tale behind it.
>
>IE, he broke down Vader’s WWE run and explained why it
>turned out the way it did.
>
>He also has similar eps about Rick Rude, Dibiase, Hennig and
>Pillman.

  

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168. "If you're looking for a fun one that rarely sticks to format"
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We Watch Wrestling is really good. Technically a weekly recap but they just talk about whatever they want to in wrestling and they're funny. I already listen to others that break down the week in wrestling so this is a welcome change of pace.

  

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170. "DDP in the HOF now."
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174. "I dig it."
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171. "Raw story line question"
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Roman Reigns beating up the tag team champs for 2 or 3 weeks in a row now. Why even give them the belts if they are just going to be beat by 1 guy? If they cant take him how am I to believe they are able to beat any tag team combo on Raw? Should have just left the straps on new day. Why wouldnt they give Reigns any other non champ team on Raw to do these handicap matches with? All of this to put Reigns over?

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172. "They view titles as mere props and champs can "take" a loss"
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This is actually a long term, ongoing motif for them. As one podcaster says, "champs are chumps". If you have a title chances are you're going to eat a fair amount of losses during your "reign".÷

Champs are often used as bit pieces in the grand scheme and titles don't mean much these days. Very few title runs are treated with any importance, up to and including KO's run with the Universal strap.

It's just a lot of nonsense.

  

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173. "I get the whole champs can lose thing"
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that doesnt bother me much. But they are getting whooped on by 1 guy. Ive only been watching recently and I see Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair taking losses every other week or so. But the 2 on 1 thing just makes them look super weak. I caught the very end of New Day's run and I dont remember them ever looking that weak and beatable.

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176. "The two go hand in hand via McMahon logic. "
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My point is that the logic employed is ultimately the same and that flawed logic permeates most areas of the company. I agree with your sentiment completely, by the way. I’m just saying this kind of bad booking is a hallmark of poorly thought out WWE logic.

I can’t recall if the New Day met that particular fate al l that often but they were downplayed in other ways. Actually, Gallows & Anderson have never really been made to look particularly strong.

They got a little shine when they teamed with Styles to beat up Cena last year but Styles was the sole benefactor there. Karl Anderson in particular has eaten a ridiculous amount of losses to the point where it made no sense to make them champs in the first place.

Even the great angle with the Nexus, while not employing the same exact scenario of two tag champs getting beaten down by a superhero babyface, ultimately yielded the same result when Cena insisted on winning that battle. This is just more of the same shit in a different hole. T

  

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177. "this really bothers me too."
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2 guys generally should almost always be able to take 1, and the tag champs should be able to take anyone.

  

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180. "yes to all of this"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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175. "going to Smackdown tonight"
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me and my son will be there. My wife wanted no parts of it this time. But he is super excited because there will be a Battle Royal. Should be fun. Also $30 a ticket cant go wrong for that price.

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178. "Hope you both enjoyed it"
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watching, they made it seem like Harper was the man - possibly moreso than AJ or Cena. How was the vibe inside the arena?

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179. "great crowd today"
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Luke was super over from the get go. I havent watched the video yet but in the beginning there were cheers mixed with Luuuuuuuke chants. So it probably sounded like boo's. But once everyone got on the same page it was more recognizable. But the crowd was definitely pro Luke. It was probably even split for Luke and AJ to win it all. But the horrible finish did not go over well in arena. First off it was obvious as fuck from any seat in the building that AJ touched first. Plus having no commentary team telling us it was a tie to help sell the finish didnt help. It was just everyone really upset. IMO the Battle Royal was pretty entertaining until the final 2. Then it just looked like they were lost.

I dont know how well the noise translated onto tv but it was LOUD in there. Its a small arena that sits probably 8k. Ive been there for playoff hockey before(Kings AHL team) it is never that loud. Not even close. I could barely hear Alexa Bliss during her promo. The Uso's promo looked amazing. But I could barely hear that. But it was a fun night.

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181. "this was the impression I got"
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>Luke was super over from the get go. I havent watched the
>video yet but in the beginning there were cheers mixed with
>Luuuuuuuke chants. So it probably sounded like boo's. But once
>everyone got on the same page it was more recognizable. But
>the crowd was definitely pro Luke. It was probably even split
>for Luke and AJ to win it all.

took me a sec, but the Luuuuuuuke did come across.

>
>I dont know how well the noise translated onto tv but it was
>LOUD in there. Its a small arena that sits probably 8k. Ive
>been there for playoff hockey before(Kings AHL team) it is
>never that loud. Not even close. I could barely hear Alexa
>Bliss during her promo. The Uso's promo looked amazing. But I
>could barely hear that. But it was a fun night.

Haha, I thought everyone was just messing with Bliss cause I could hear her perfectly.

  

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182. "In So Cal we have a lot of yells that sound like boo's"
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Like I mentioned before the building is home to the LA Kings minor league team The Reign. Luc Robitaille is one of the best hockey players and Kings of all time. He is also our current president of business operations. He gets Luuuuuuuuc chants. Drew Doughty Kings defenseman and one of the best in the league gets Dreeeeeeeeew chants.. Shit I remember when Tyrone Lue was on the Lakers he would get Luuuuuuuuue chants whenever he touched the ball. The Dodgers have had a few players that got similar chants. Former catcher Paul LoDuca was the first that comes to mind.

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183. "finally watched it on my DVR and Baron Corbin got screwed"
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DAMN he was a beast in the Battle Royal. HE had a good 3 minute sequence where he just beat the shit out of everyone. But apparently that was during a commercial break. The commercial ended just as you see him end of days Miz. But before that he went the fuck off mashing everyone multiple times. IMO he looked stronger here than he did in the Royal Rumble. But none of it was seen. That sucks. He probably had the strongest showing out of everyone in the match but only 5000 people know it.

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184. "TNA Slippin..."
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>Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post. We're
>also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.

There's no telling how it really went down but you can't lose the dudes who are making folks watch your show. You just can't.

BUT

The glory of Matt and Jeff showing up on WWE TV talking about obsolete/delete/expedition is just too great. And there's no reason for them to not let them finish their indy stuff. Maybe they don't let the battle the bucks of youth, but who knows...

  

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185. "BROTHER HUSKY!"
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You knew I'd come! Oh joy. Watch it not happen now.

>>Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post.
>We're
>>also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.
>
>There's no telling how it really went down but you can't lose
>the dudes who are making folks watch your show. You just
>can't.
>
>BUT
>
>The glory of Matt and Jeff showing up on WWE TV talking about
>obsolete/delete/expedition is just too great. And there's no
>reason for them to not let them finish their indy stuff. Maybe
>they don't let the battle the bucks of youth, but who
>knows...

  

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186. "The Raw tag division needs them so badly right now"
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SD's isn't great but at least they give all the teams time and try to build some.

Raw is literally the New Day being too big for the tag division and the champs losing every week.

  

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187. "RE: The Raw tag division needs them so badly right now"
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>SD's isn't great but at least they give all the teams time
>and try to build some.
>
>Raw is literally the New Day being too big for the tag
>division and the champs losing every week.


They would be the perfect foils for New Day....I'm hearing the Hardy's r in negotiations ....We will see......

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188. "they screwed the pooch on this in the most TNA way possible"
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supposedly they had a verbal agreement in December then kept giving them the run around. when the Hardys finally received the contract they had added things like "give us 10% of the profits you make with other companies." also it sounds like they were late in offering a contract to drew galloway so he's leaving too. at this point TNA rumors could be exaggerations, but they're still a mess.

  

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189. "great Smackdown episode"
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the opening segment actually got me excited for this mixed tag match. Miz had a good promo and then Cena brought the fire as Miz just stood there with an uncomfortable smile.

and orton/wyatt.... holy shit. i can't even recap it. just watch.

  

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190. "RE: great Smackdown episode"
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Every Cena feud is kind of the same story now. Great promos, but someone is mad at Cena for winning so much and Cena tells them how their career isn't that good. It's fun to watch but he kind of goes a bit far in breaking kayfabe.

Also AJ better not get screwed out of a 3 way and fight Shane, it's gonna happen but why?

  

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193. "I agree with this critique, but this angle works for the Miz"
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>Every Cena feud is kind of the same story now. Great promos,
>but someone is mad at Cena for winning so much and Cena tells
>them how their career isn't that good. It's fun to watch but
>he kind of goes a bit far in breaking kayfabe.

i don't mind a babyface using the "you're a fraud/not that good" angle with Miz, cause it's true. That's the character he's deliberately played (rather than Cena burying an actually great wrestler) and he's great at selling these shots getting under his skin.

>
>Also AJ better not get screwed out of a 3 way and fight Shane,
>it's gonna happen but why?

That would be lame, but it seemed like they were kinda setting up Harper/Shane last night instead due to the poor response to a potential Shane/AJ match.

  

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195. "yes you're right about the Cena feuds..."
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They're mad at him for being on top for so long, they're mad at him for holding them down and they're mad at him for going Hollywood. What's become even more annoying is that with Ambrose, AJ and now Miz, Cena reasserts his unwavering passion for WWE all the while knowing he's going to be gone again in a month's time.

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191. "I have very mixed feelings/thoughts on Orton/Wyatt"
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In the end I can't wait to find out what the hell is going on. This was an interesting/intriguing segment to me but I suspect the way I look back on it will depend heavily on the follow up.

  

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192. "part of me is just happy about the long-term storytelling"
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this has been boiling on the WWE stove for 9 months now. they got 1 month to take it home, but last night made me VERY intrigued.

  

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194. "I was cool with the segment..."
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But mildly irritated at the notion that Randy can just walk back in to his title match. They've had a battle royal and two singles matches to crown a new number one contender so surely Randy's claim should be non-existent.

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196. "at a certain point you just gotta ignore all the messiness"
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i have no idea what their plan was 2 months ago and i'm 98% sure they've been making it up as they go along (hence the messy ending to the battle royale and the rumors that they didn't know wtf they were gonna do with that harper/styles match until it happened). sometimes they write themselves into a hole that they gotta dig themselves out of and we have to accept that. i think we gotta count our blessings on this one. the other title program could be goldberg/lesnar, so if this one features 2 or 3 top CURRENT talents in a storyline that's played out over almost a year then i'm on board. like anything wyatt-related, a lot of it won't make add up in kayfabe or reality. just keep shrugging those inconsistencies off and enjoy the ride. i'm not gonna dissect it anymore, i think this is gonna be a good one.

  

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197. "OKPW Prediction Series: Fastlane"
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Laink: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RZgRvUsyrRwPDsnlMGaeo3ymxXn0duAuyi0Soi5Urnc/edit?usp=sharing

Fastlane Card:
WWE Universal Championship: Kevin Owens (c) v. Goldberg
Roman Reigns v. Braun Strowman
Sami Zayn v. Samoa Joe
WWE Raw Women's Championship: Bayley (c) v. Charlotte
WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Neville (c) v. Jack Gallagher
WWE Raw Tag Team Championship: Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson (c) v. Enzo Amore & Big Cass
Sasha Banks v. NIa Jax
Rich Swann & Akira Tozawa v. The Brian Kendrick & Noam Dar

Bonus Questions:
1. Opening match on main card
2. Will Sasha interfere in Bayley/Charlotte match?
3. Will any match end in disqualification or countout?
4. Over/Under: Length of Owens/Goldberg, 15 minutes.

  

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198. "question: how are we defining interference?"
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If Sasha comes out and neutralizes Dana Brooke but doesn't touch Bayley or Charlotte does that count? Does someone's music hitting count as interference?

edit: also are we guessing which match will end in dq or countout or just saying yes or no?

  

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199. "distracting Bayley/Charlotte to benefit the other, physically interferin..."
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and touching one of the two women in the match.

  

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200. "After Mania can we switch to who leaves with the title?"
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So many title matches where I know 1 person is leaving with the title but don't predict them to lose by Countout or whatever happens.

I think it would be a cool change to make calling the more important part the thing that gets you the point.

  

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201. "Correct, that's my intention."
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202. "RE: OKPW Prediction Series: Fastlane"
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>Laink:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RZgRvUsyrRwPDsnlMGaeo3ymxXn0duAuyi0Soi5Urnc/edit?usp=sharing
>
>Fastlane Card:
>WWE Universal Championship: Kevin Owens (c) v. Goldberg
>Roman Reigns v. Braun Strowman
>Sami Zayn v. Samoa Joe
>WWE Raw Women's Championship: Bayley (c) v. Charlotte
>WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Neville (c) v. Jack Gallagher
>WWE Raw Tag Team Championship: Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson
>(c) v. Enzo Amore & Big Cass
>Sasha Banks v. NIa Jax
>Rich Swann & Akira Tozawa v. The Brian Kendrick & Noam Dar
>
>Bonus Questions:
>1. Opening match on main card
>2. Will Sasha interfere in Bayley/Charlotte match?
>3. Will any match end in disqualification or countout?
>4. Over/Under: Length of Owens/Goldberg, 15 minutes.

Owens is gonna stall like crazy. And he may even get some offense, but I can't see this going beyond 15. Even the glorious Hogan vs Goldberg title match went under 15. And Hogan was a stalling machine in that one. I'd be surprised if the ddp went that long.

This is a nice card. I'm gonna enjoy fo sho.

  

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203. "I see it going 10-12 minutes"
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>
>
>This is a nice card. I'm gonna enjoy

As much as I was looking forward to Rollins/Joe, Zayn/Joe could be fire.

  

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215. "Owens-Goldberg will go less than 15 but Owens isn't getting squashed..."
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That has more to do with the fact that Goldberg still hasn't had to wrestle a "real" match in, like, 15 years or whatever. I'm guessing this'll be a way of easing him back in so he can go longer with Brock.

And I still contend this match was set up as a way for Brock to get his heat back as opposed to transferring the title to Goldberg. Not sure how that's going to play out exactly, but I still feel like Owens is leaving with the title.

Also, pretty sure the DQ/countout finish will be in Reigns-Strowman. Hard to imagine them jobbing either guy going into 'Mania. I wouldn't be surprised if the match ends up getting thrown out.

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204. "Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet"
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They're expected to but he got ahead of himself and booked indie dates for like next week. Even when they release him they have a 90-day non-compete clause that would prevent it... Poor Swags.

  

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217. "RE: Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet"
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>They're expected to but he got ahead of himself and booked
>indie dates for like next week. Even when they release him
>they have a 90-day non-compete clause that would prevent it...
>Poor Swags.

That's crazy. Let dude go. Make him do the 'WWE was great...no really, it was' speech. It ain't like they want to do anything with him at this point.

  

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219. "RE: Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet"
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>
>That's crazy. Let dude go. Make him do the 'WWE was great...no
>really, it was' speech. It ain't like they want to do anything
>with him at this point.

I think the 90 day non compete is way less necessary than it used to be, but to be fair, he booked indy dates and then asked for his release.

That's basically like an NFL player negotiating a new contract with a different team then asking his team to release him. Doesn't matter if he's a bench warmer, you don't do that.

  

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222. "RE: Jack Swagger asked for his release, hasn't been granted it yet"
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>
>>
>>That's crazy. Let dude go. Make him do the 'WWE was
>great...no
>>really, it was' speech. It ain't like they want to do
>anything
>>with him at this point.
>
>I think the 90 day non compete is way less necessary than it
>used to be, but to be fair, he booked indy dates and then
>asked for his release.
>
>That's basically like an NFL player negotiating a new contract
>with a different team then asking his team to release him.
>Doesn't matter if he's a bench warmer, you don't do that.

He jumped the gun fo sho. But it's not like he's holding a spot on any tv. They could shake a finger at him, thank him for his service and cut his non-compete time by a lot cuz who GAF about swags? Let him Indy it up and see how it goes. If he blossoms, he comes back eventually anyway. Jobbing randomly once a quarter on wwe tv sux for errbody.

  

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205. "TNA spoiler if anyone cares"
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After one of the worst weeks in LOLTNA history, which is really saying something, they brought in Alberto Del Rio and put the belt on him right away. The reports sounded like it was a weird flukey win that will be reversed, but it still looks like they're hitching their wagons to him. This is a big get after losing a lot of talent, and I hope he does well there, but there's about a 3% chance this ends well. The organization is in a state of flux (but what's new) and Del Rio's life seems volatile as hell. There's a bizarre story every other week about the dude.

  

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206. "No one has ever watched a wrestling show just to see Alberto Del Rio"
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207. "lol...true statement."
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208. "As long as dumbass Jeff Jarrett is running the show it won't matter who ..."
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Anthem is just continuing to fuel the long, sordid dumpster fire by replacing one out of touch idiot with another.

If they were serious about any of this and had half a fucking clue they would have backed a Brinks truck into JR's driveway and fucking parked it there until he agreed to do whatever the fuck he chose.

Del Rio is a good get though and despite the cynicism in here he's a different guy outside the WWE bubble. He's not the "answer" but could be a sound building block.

Frankly outside of Cena or Punk or someone with that stature coming in, they need a slow build and damn good creative to get this thing off the ground. There's talk of touring again and they don't have the names to succeed with that.

The lack of good creative is the primary problem here IMO. Between that and a glossier version of third rate WCW "Saturday Night" level production values that scream "off brand" the roster is the least of their weaknesses

  

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212. "They've kinda run out of big name free agents"
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Pretty much everyone who leaves there does so on bad terms so there's no bringing back the big names they've had. After that I don't know how many people there are who a) are available and b) can truly put asses in seats/eyeballs on the screen. Their best bet would be to purge the indies, but like you said, that needs to come with great creative which won't happen. Even then, there's so much bad word-of-mouth from their entire history that they might as well scrap the brand name and start over.

>Frankly outside of Cena or Punk or someone with that stature
>coming in, they need a slow build and damn good creative to
>get this thing off the ground. There's talk of touring again
>and they don't have the names to succeed with that.

I was actually thinking the other day "What if they scrounged up a shitload of money and called up Punk?" but if Punk was frustrated by WWE management I can only imagine how frustrated he'd get there. The stories that come out of that place show a completely different level of ineptitude. Basically the last couple years of WCW repeated over and over but somehow this company just won't die.

  

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210. "I haven't watched TNA since Sting was acting like the Joker"
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And probably hadn't watched regularly and enjoyed it since "Christian's Coalition".

Is it watchable? Has it gotten any better? It always had its problems but I generally enjoyed it in the Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels days. Christian and Angle came in. Motor City Machine Guns, LAX, Robert Roode, etc. Back then I was a fan. How does the quality of the show now compare?

  

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211. "This spoiler is from the dirt sheets. I don't even watch."
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But my understanding is they had a pretty good 2016 creatively, due in part to the Hardys. They always find a way to shoot themselves in the foot. Also I believe Billy Corgan was a big driving force for the creative successes they've had and they just kicked him out.

  

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209. "The Hardys signed with ROH"
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And had a surprise match where they took the titles off the Young Bucks tonight at a show I was supposed to go to. Wow... did not see that coming.

  

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213. "RE: The Hardys signed with ROH"
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>And had a surprise match where they took the titles off the
>Young Bucks tonight at a show I was supposed to go to. Wow...
>did not see that coming.

Might be temporary / up until the day before Mania. So they could still be popping up wherever. They seem to stay finding a way to do stuff that makes sense...like getting out of TNA cuz having full reign over stuff you do is really the only good reason to be there long-term.

  

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214. "Can the Hardys still work?"
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I'm only tangentially aware of all the Broken Matt stuff, but I haven't seen them wrestle in years. Are they still good in the ring?

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216. "yup"
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Matt is over 40 and Jeff will be 40 this year but they can still go. Seems like those incidents where they were too fucked up to perform are ancient history now. They had a hell of a 2016.

  

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218. "RE: pretty much"
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>I'm only tangentially aware of all the Broken Matt stuff, but
>I haven't seen them wrestle in years. Are they still good in
>the ring?

I love the character work. It's grand, campy, and hilarious. And hell, rasslin is predetermined so I'm fine with their brand of absurdity.

In ring, they're fine enough. And they'll both occasionally take the risks that got them over in the first place. Matt especially appears to have placed some sensible dinners into his VESSEL.

I'm interested to see what they do with lights shining on them now that they're done with Impact.

  

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220. "I'm assuming WWE won't run with their TNA gimmick though, right?"
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They'll probably return as the Hardy Boyz that they were previously in WWE. Things outside the WWE umbrella don't usually exist on WWE television.

  

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221. "RE: I'm assuming WWE won't run with their TNA gimmick though, right?"
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>They'll probably return as the Hardy Boyz that they were
>previously in WWE. Things outside the WWE umbrella don't
>usually exist on WWE television.

They've adjusted to that in some cases. AJ and Joe are the greatest hits version of themselves.

Hardyz 2000 won't work. Broken Brilliance is a good time waiting to happen. There's no point if they aren't gonna be Broken.

  

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223. "the TNA gimmick is too over not to"
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and somehow TNA is the only one who didn't recognize that. people chant "DELETE" at events apropos of nothing. you gotta run with the broken brilliance.

  

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224. "Well, Joe vs. Zayn was disappointing..."
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Way too sort and basically an extended squash for Joe.

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225. "Set a tone for this whole PPV so far"
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Sasha's heat is just being destroyed every week, she needs to turn.

Now bonus matches involving Jinder Mahal?

  

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227. "This filler must mean the main event is going short..."
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Maybe Owens is getting squashed after all. LOL?

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228. "This is a lot of unplanned filler though"
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It feels like some other match got cancelled for this

  

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226. "The Jinder/Rusev matches may be the worst 20 minutes in PPV history"
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WTF is going on here?

  

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229. "RE: The Jinder/Rusev matches may be the worst 20 minutes in PPV history"
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To quote Brandon Stroud on Twitter, it almost seems like someone died backstage and they're killing time to figure out how to tell us.

For real, though, it seems like they're stalling for some reason. Like, if they were worried about the show going short or something, why not have Joe-Zayn give us workrateplaooza and go for 5 or even 10 more minutes?

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230. "Posted in wrong spot"
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231. "Right?! That was bananas"
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This card is pretty deep. They didn't need a time filler at all. I guess they're setting up Big Show/Rusev for Mania but like, that can't wait until Raw?

  

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232. "So bizarre"
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A giant pause in the PPV that had no real purpose.

People saying that means the main event is a squash, but they'd have known that already and booked the PPV better. Has to be someone being late to the show, unable to wrestle or something else.

I imagine we'll hear reports in a day

Plus now the New Day?

  

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234. "They want it to be longer than regular Raw just because"
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that's the only explanation I can come up with.

  

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233. "Thank God for Neville-Gallagher. Give those two a bonus. "
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This shit is wack for a RAW episode let alone a ppv.

Cesaro actually put out a Superstars quality match. Rusev got his ass beat by Big Show, who is being rebuilt for some reason.

At least Rusev finally got a hair cut.

Enzo & Cass still get a massive crowd pop but they're wearing thin as-is.

New Day are just kind of irritating right now.

Neville and Gallagher out in work though.

I'm mad that I'm anticipating Owens/Goldberg since I'm sure it's going to be some bullshit.

  

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235. "It's almost admirable the way they won't let up on Reigns"
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Clean victory over Braun at a minor PPV...sure why not

  

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241. "Say what you want about how he's booked, but Reigns can work..."
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He had match of the night—well, maybe Neville-Gallagher gets an extra star, but in terms of scale I give it to Reigns-Strowman—and rarely fails to deliver on a big stage, WM32 notwithstanding.

They really just need to turn him heel. As discussed in this thread, he's not pushing merch or appealing to kids to the level that they have to keep him face a la Cena, and they *really* can't expect him to get a split reaction going up against Undertaker, right?

If I'm booking Mania, I strongly imply that it's UT's last match, have Reigns go over, and when Taker's having his tears-in-the-eye, take-it-all-in farewell, have Reigns spear the shit out of him, then cut a promo on some, "Y'all hate me? Fine. Then I'm gonna destroy the one you do love" shit. And maybe he can link up with this HHH-Joe-Owens faction they seem to be building.

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236. "So Strowman and Charlotte both lose their streaks for no reason tonight"
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Great booking

  

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237. "Strowman, I guess it's cause they don't have a Mania plan for him"
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off to the battle royale. My guess is they're going to have Reigns lose to Taker and want him to look as strong as possible going in. Charlotte I can't explain at all. I just don't know what they see in Bayley as a title holder right now. The money for her is in the chase for the title, not the holding of it.

  

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238. "Sasha heel turn has to be coming"
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At this point that's the only thing to do since Bailey already beat Charlotte on PPV.

I kind of expected Sasha to beat her up tonight after the win.

  

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239. "Yeah, they said Sasha wasn't getting anymore title shots against Charlot..."
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So she's making sure Bayley has the title. I like it. It shows they remember things from beyond a few weeks ago, which you can't always count on.

  

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240. "..."
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no words.

  

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242. "Well, guess I was wrong..."
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I really thought Bayley retaining meant Owens was going over but nope.

I suppose having a championship on the line gives Goldberg-Brock some intrigue, considering Goldberg's already up on Brock 2-0 (3-0 if you include the Rumble elimination) and has nothing to prove by fighting him again, but they're really going to send Goldberg into Mania not having wrestled an actual match? Because I'm assuming *that* match is going longer than 20 seconds. It's starting to feel like they're protecting the old man for a reason.

(Also, this all but guarantees Lesnar is winning the title at WM, which leaves us with another part-time champion...unless, like, Finn Balor returns and they do the WM9 ending.)

That show was underwhelming to say the least, but while the booking seemed designed to piss off smart fans I don't think either Strowman or even Owens comes away looking too bad. Strowman still looked like a killer and kinda beat himself in the end, and the Jericho distraction preserved Owens a little bit. Besides, Jericho-Owens is molten lava right now, and while having the championship would've helped the feud more than it helps Brock-Goldberg and I don't it's hurt by having it removed.

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243. "I guess I'm not too smart..."
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because it seems that everyone saw this coming but me, but can someone explain to me the rationale behind having a dude that hasn't fought in a decade coming in off the street and obliterating your roster in seconds?

I really don't get how making your top level talent look weak as hell benefits the company...

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244. "It benefits them a great deal in the short term. "
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Long term it might not actually do all that much damage but that remains to be seen.

Short term though they've successfully built an intriguing Mania main event for most people.

  

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245. "It will do wonders for the person who takes the belt from Lesnar"
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Bring Goldberg in as essentially a God, this generation's fans say Wow Goldberg is a god, I"ve heard about it but now I see it.

Lesnar beats him and regains his momentum that he has lost from being away. People are like oh shit Lesnar stopped the god.

Someone beats Lesnar (probably Reigns) and their hope is people are like oh shit he is the new god.

The only other person that matters that Goldberg destoryed was KO and he can play the, I was being smart and going to beat Goldberg my way but Jericho ruined it card. He'll be ok in the long run.

  

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246. "anybody else annoyed by the amount of stats/facts cole was dropping?"
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before every match it seemed like there was some "so and so is undefeated in PPV title fights since so and so"

especially frustrating since every major streak they had going they killed that night for no reason. nia? beaten by a roll up by a sasha banks with hardly any momentum. braun? reigns, we know how that goes. charlotte? they already wasted bayley's big win on a random Raw why not waste charlotte's streak on a random B-level PPV.

  

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247. "RE: anybody else annoyed by the amount of stats/facts cole was dropping?"
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I loved that personally. Gives it a stronger sports feel.

My issue isn't talking about the stats themselves or the streaks ending. My issue is that those streaks weren't built up well for Nia or Braun, which means that those victories mean less for the wrestlers who broke them.

I think the Charlotte PPV streak is stupid since they had her drop the title on Raw at least twice that I can think of, which, again, denied Bayley and Sasha of the benefit of more meaningful title wins and denies Charlotte of even greater heat.

I dislike the inept, tone deaf way they utilize these streaks from a narrative standpoint, but absolutely enjoy that they use those sorts of stats in commentary and wish they took the time to develop tighter narrative consistency.

Likewise, I'm less bothered with Charlotte's streak being broke on a B show than I am with the fact that they tried to have their cake and eat it too with the aforementioned losses on Raw, thus stripping everyone involved of the inherent benefit of the full significance of that loss.

  

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249. "And since Cole is more Joe Buck than Gordon Solie, it makes sense."
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254. "allegedly Sasha was supposed to grab the ropes"
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which I kinda figured when she grabbed them to get out of the ring. I didn't mind Braun's as much. I have the feeling it's to make Reign look strong before he loses to Taker (which would get him more support than a win). Would've preferred interference there, but it's not a huge deal. Charlotte's streak ending on Fastlane after all that investment makes no sense to me, particularly when she loses on Raw practically every week.

  

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248. "Rick Rude in HOF"
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Bout fuckin' time...

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250. "Hi. I'm a mark. And I love Old Man Goldberg."
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A) he's being booked the way people fell in love with him 20 years ago, the way he WASN'T booked on his first WWE run. Thankfully this time petty Triple H isn't around to expose Goldberg's "work rate" for the sanctity of "the business" and we can just let a Hoss be a Hoss. (Goldberg 5x more over than Triple H ever was)

B) there's something really endearing about these "just a normal Dad living the dream" promos of his. It's , by far, the most authentic thing they're putting on TV right now. Give me Reflective Dad Goldberg promos over high school football coach Cena promos any day.

Again, the last match that needs the title is this one. But I'm interested, and mostly for
This new, erm, old Goldberg

  

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251. "Here's my biggest issue"
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This entire year has been about the new era. You hear it every 2 minutes. New Era this, New Era that.

You put the new Universal title on Finn Balor who gets hurt and you put it on KO for a good run. NXT has been exciting, stars are being made left and right. Your superstar of the year is AJ styles who while not new in his career is at the peak of his game and represented a move in a new direction for the company.

Miz has risen to a new level given the opportunities

Now WM so far includes

Lesnar vs Goldberg for the Universal title
Randy Orton fighting for the World title (we know AJ is getting screwed here)
AJ vs Shane Mcmahon
Miz/Maryse vs Cena/Nikki

These are all bad uses of the people and titles involved (the SD title isn't THAT BAD). Your main event centers around a 50 year old who didn't even make his career out of WWE success defending the title after you spent a year building up a new roster?

Just such safe booking

  

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252. "RE: Here's my biggest issue"
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>This entire year has been about the new era. You hear it
>every 2 minutes. New Era this, New Era that.
>
>You put the new Universal title on Finn Balor who gets hurt
>and you put it on KO for a good run. NXT has been exciting,
>stars are being made left and right. Your superstar of the
>year is AJ styles who while not new in his career is at the
>peak of his game and represented a move in a new direction for
>the company.
>
>Miz has risen to a new level given the opportunities
>
>Now WM so far includes
>
>Lesnar vs Goldberg for the Universal title
>Randy Orton fighting for the World title (we know AJ is
>getting screwed here)
>AJ vs Shane Mcmahon
>Miz/Maryse vs Cena/Nikki

Can't forget another Undertaker appearance AND Triple H.

To let Kevin Owens hold the belt for six months just to donate it to Geezerberg in embarrassing fashion goes against all that they professed.

AJ Styles held the belt (and carried it well IMO) for months...only to give it to SuperCena for 5 minutes, who gave it to Bray, to set up a match with Part timer Orton...again, subverting the current talent in favor of memory lane.

I actually thought that Thickie James was coming back for a WM match for the belt against Alexa Bliss (and I guess it isn't too late for that to happen either).

WrestleMania has become the "McMahon and Old Timers Reunion Show"...honestly, I have more interest in Kurt Angle and Rick Rude going into the Hall than I do this card at this point.

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258. "Randy isnt a part timer though"
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but I agree with every thing else you said.

November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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260. "Disappearing for months at a time"
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to do movies and TV shows is part time IMO

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261. "His long term absences have been due to injury"
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His absences for Shooter and the couple movies he's done have generally been shorter and infrequent.

He's not a part timer. He's old guard but not part time.

  

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253. "It's for the causal fan, but the casual fan says "Really? Him???""
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"Isn't he old as dirt?" These are the most embarrassing parts of defending wrestling fandom. I can point at goofy stuff and just say "cmon, it's professional wrestling. that's part of the fun." but when they put the title on an old dude who looks exhausted after his entrance it's just embarrassing. if it was the first time in years a part-timer was so central or if it was ONLY the undertaker then it'd be easier to defend, but we go through these conversations every year "Really? HE'S still wrestling???" I have no response for that, and I'm sure it does increase short-term interest, but stuff like this HAS to be hurting them in the long run.

  

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255. "It's great short term money but terrible long term... as usual. "
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I beat this drum every year around this time....
Because they play this song every year around this time.

This is one of those stocks that make investors gobs of money early on but has a clear peak before it crashes.

Savvy investors will see it for what it is. Most will set a hard cap and get out before it peaks, forsaking a fair amount of profit in favor of the long term stability that comes with such discipline.

Greedier/riskier investors will take it to the head trying to squeeze every last cent before they get out- but they will get out.

Then you have undisciplined greed pigs and desperate/uneducated get-rich-quick types who can’t bring themselves to leap from the gravy train and crash and burn along with it.

If Vince is in the first camp, I’m fine with this. It is what it is. They’re still showcasing young talent as definitively less-than compared to aging meatheads and creating self-fulfilling prophecies each time out.

By continuing to cast young talent as lesser quantities than these glory day weekend warriors they’re ensuring that they will remain lesser quantities.

But as I said… it is what it is. They’re using Goldberg properly. I’d rather see some actual matches but this was always what worked with him and to that end, good on them for actually giving a WCW guy some balls and actually using him to his strengths.

The real question is the follow up:

-Do they get out while he’s still hot? Because that’s best for everyone. He leaves with his mystique as strong as ever, the legend clearly and irrevocably established in way that has turned him into a tier one HOF headliner. I say let him conquer the conqueror at Mania and bounce soon after. Let the gunslinger ride off into the sunset as The Man. Frankly I think Brock going down 0-3 and going berserk on the rest of the roster in response is a great look for everyone from Vince down to us, so that won’t happen.

The other alternative here is turning Reigns heel the night after Mania and obliterating Goldberg in dastardly fashion. That’s also win-win for everyone from Vince on down to us, so that won’t happen.

-Do they wait until he begins to gas out? Brock beats him and he hangs it up? I guess that’s cool. Whatever. It doesn’t really help anyone and I don’t buy the transitive property theory where The Guy beats The Beast who beat The Man suddenly elevates into the stratosphere. I also don’t think this does Goldberg or WWE any good in terms of his long term value. It doesn’t hurt terribly but it is a lesser, cheaper road to travel.

-Do they ride him into a ditch? Because these crowds are going to turn on him. The Spear/Jackhammer routine is going to start pissing people off in short order. Here’s hoping that doesn’t happen and I’m not entirely confident that this isn’t the direction.

These aren’t the only three options but I think these are the three categories that those options will probably fall under.

  

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267. "I'm kinda in two minds about it..."
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On one side, the initial match with Brock was epic - I imagine it came off exactly as Vince wanted and now he's engineered it all into this colossal main event for the title. I don't really mind it but firstly, I think they could have had at least 6/7 minutes with the KO match. Also, it all comes off as strange to me seeing as Goldberg hasn't spent more than ten minutes when you count up the time he was in the Rumble and his two single matches. At Mania, there won't be anywhere to hide and I'm curious to know how it plays out I guess. Can he actually have a match or will Lesnar F5 him in 30 seconds.

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256. "Oh, and Jericho is offically in the GOAT pantheon to me"
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Drink it in.

-Rock, Austin, Flair, Piper & Rhodes got the promo titles. Mt Rushmore shit. Jericho isn’t on that lofty level but he’s in their ballpark. Anyone who can go toe to toe with Rock and not only not get buried but dish it out and, in one memorable case, match him bar for bar, is in that ballpark.

-HBK, Flair, Angle, Eddie got ring work on lock. Mt Rushmore level.

Jericho isn’t in that short conversation but he’s in that upper echelon. He’s not just a guy who holds his own with those guy either.
He scores high marks in those two very important categories.
Character work though?

Who else is there on top of that List, maaaaaaaaaan?

Nobody.

Nobody else has reinvented themselves this many times spanning such a long stretch of time with such great success every time out.

He goes away and comes back with some new shit that inevitably gets over big. He got a fucking plant, a list, and a scarf over for crying out loud. And bedazzled light bright jacket. He got wristlocks over. He got stupid hairdos over. He got a sidekick named Ralphus over.
He arguably gave Shawn Michaels the greatest feud of his career and Shawn feuded with Bret, HHH and Undertaker.

Why? Great character work, man. That’s why.

He’s never been the top draw. That’s fine.

He’s not in that Mt Rushmore with Hulk and Austin. It’s all good, man.
Still… the totality of his career is pretty staggering when you look at it from start to finish. Add little flourishes like being the only guy on record to have something resembling a real fight with Brock Lesnar and Bill Goldberg only adds to his credentials.

The man is legit one of the greatest pro wrestlers of all time and has earned a seat at that table because he created a lane and path in such a significant way that nobody else can stake a legit claim the the top spot. It’s not merely longevity. It’s the longevity of his continued creative output and reinvention in ways very few have been able to accomplish.

Drink it in, man. Appreciate what we're seeing with him in real time while we can. In ten years I hope we see a flood of wrestlers inspired by Y....2.....J.

  

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257. "yup, after this past year he's solidly in the conversation"
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like you said, any way you attack the "Mount Rushmore" argument he doesn't quite make the cut, but as an all around performer and a character, there are few better. this run was especially genius cause he started off as a face that made dad jokes and we all groaned and couldn't wait for him to go back on tour with fozzy. NOPE! it was all a troll job to set up a brilliant heel turn.

  

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259. "RE: Oh, and Jericho is offically in the GOAT pantheon to me"
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You ain't lying.

During the late 90s, I liked him well enough but I wouldn't guess that he'd be the one damn near 20 years later. Greenberg. 1004 holds. Conspiracy theory. All wonderful.

Sadly, my money was on Eddie and, to a lesser extent, Chris Benoit. But oops...the drugs blew up Eddie's heart and there's no telling what happened with Benoit, but both of those situations are sad as all get out. I struggle watching either one of them work cuz I connect them in my mind even though they both ended 'differently'.

But yeah...Jericho gets allowed the opp to flop and keep going until it works. AKA he has a long leash. And it helps him.

IT! The list. Absurd gear and hair. He's not the only one to try stuff like that but he's THE MAN when it comes to making it go.

I remember being mad af when HHH beat him at Mania, but yeah...that stuff with Shawn was money and it's crazy to think that they basically feuded two separate times if I'm remembering it right.

I think the confidence of smaller guys now already is built on the back of guys like Jericho who came in on the backs of Piper, Savage, Flair, Bret, and Shawn.

I love that the core of the next crop of main guys are mostly coming in at around 220, so it just gives more guys opportunities to do the work and get over. And good lord..Pac, Austin Aries, Balor, and other guys are getting their piece too.

Zoomed out, I adore the roster, but I'm miffed about the future as you are based on the story you've been telling for years now. It's real, it's a problem, and I don't know if they 'get it' enough to resolve it before it screws them long term.

I DO think they're smart enough to have a clue though. The way the different shows clearly serve different audiences gives me that optimism, but the flagship show being Vince-y in a bad way during the meatiest parts of the year still scares me. I want to be happy that dudes like Owens and Styles can have multi-month runs with the title, but I can't when these dudes can't seem to be the ones with the belts when it is time for Mania. Maybe they are testing it out for the future. Maybe they'll always be chasing around some older guy or a Reigns. IE: are Daniel Bryan and Edge are gonna get cleared in 4 years HBK style and end up running the show from January through May? Kurt? Broken Hardys? Are any of those guys big enough to get that treatment besides Kurt?

>Drink it in.
>
>-Rock, Austin, Flair, Piper & Rhodes got the promo titles. Mt
>Rushmore shit. Jericho isn’t on that lofty level but he’s
>in their ballpark. Anyone who can go toe to toe with Rock and
>not only not get buried but dish it out and, in one memorable
>case, match him bar for bar, is in that ballpark.
>
>-HBK, Flair, Angle, Eddie got ring work on lock. Mt Rushmore
>level.
>
>Jericho isn’t in that short conversation but he’s in that
>upper echelon. He’s not just a guy who holds his own with
>those guy either.
>He scores high marks in those two very important categories.
>Character work though?
>
>Who else is there on top of that List, maaaaaaaaaan?
>
>Nobody.
>
>Nobody else has reinvented themselves this many times spanning
>such a long stretch of time with such great success every time
>out.
>
>He goes away and comes back with some new shit that inevitably
>gets over big. He got a fucking plant, a list, and a scarf
>over for crying out loud. And bedazzled light bright jacket.
>He got wristlocks over. He got stupid hairdos over. He got a
>sidekick named Ralphus over.
>He arguably gave Shawn Michaels the greatest feud of his
>career and Shawn feuded with Bret, HHH and Undertaker.
>
>Why? Great character work, man. That’s why.
>
>He’s never been the top draw. That’s fine.
>
>He’s not in that Mt Rushmore with Hulk and Austin. It’s
>all good, man.
>Still… the totality of his career is pretty staggering when
>you look at it from start to finish. Add little flourishes
>like being the only guy on record to have something resembling
>a real fight with Brock Lesnar and Bill Goldberg only adds to
>his credentials.
>
>The man is legit one of the greatest pro wrestlers of all time
>and has earned a seat at that table because he created a lane
>and path in such a significant way that nobody else can stake
>a legit claim the the top spot. It’s not merely longevity.
>It’s the longevity of his continued creative output and
>reinvention in ways very few have been able to accomplish.
>
>Drink it in, man. Appreciate what we're seeing with him in
>real time while we can. In ten years I hope we see a flood of
>wrestlers inspired by Y....2.....J.

  

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263. "hell yes..."
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if you take a look at his whole career arc, he goes from well respected cruiser weight to comedy guy to y2j to this zybsko type heel. he has transformed himself so well to fit w/ the times. now, he's this throwback heel that is so lacking these days.

i thought his feud w/ hbk can be put against the greatest feuds in the business. AND they're best match wasn't even part of that feud (they're match at xix in safeco is one of my favorites of all time).

  

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265. "This last year has made me a fan."
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Never quite saw him above the B-Grade level... maybe I missed some of his best moments, but ever since he came back for this stint he's been gold, Jerry, GOLD.

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262. "aj with the cool fakeout on randy"
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one of the slicker things i've seen in a match.

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264. "RE: aj with the cool fakeout on randy"
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>one of the slicker things i've seen in a match.

They got me with that one. I saw him going for it and said 'RKO' out loud. Even my wife was surprised.

Side: her reaction to Owens selling out Jericho was spot on. She knew it was coming, but the whole 'list' thing and the beatdown just made her mark it up for a minute and hate on Owens. This is because Owens and Jericho are awesome at what they do.

  

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266. "Am I being too optimistic about Naomi?"
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This "any woman up to the challenge" booking seems set up for a surprise "early" return from injury in her hometown.

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268. "Damn you!"
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That was going to be my last minute pick as the winner of the match too, haha.

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269. "shout out to the fallen angel finally winning a world title"
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easily my favorite indy-turned-tna guy back in the the 2002-2005 timeframe, really happy ROH finally showed some love to one of the forefathers of the promotion.

  

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270. "breh they STILL on this Steph/HHH mess jesus fucking christ"
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i dont watch often anymore but i thought for sure this authority thing was done.

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271. "All that Mick/Steph stuff just to get to Aitch/Rollins"
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when Aitch could've easily just walked out, talked some shit, then Rollins beats his ass.

  

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272. "Also about getting Foley out as GM"
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Not defending the segment but there are 2 points.

Lot of rumors about Angle taking over as Raw GM

  

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273. "true, it's just everything Mick/Steph-related..."
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instantly devolves into melodrama and to me it doesn't really create the heat necessary to justify it launching aitch/rollins. Foley's "start out quietly taking a beating and then ramp up into yelling" schtick is so damn old, and really if kayfabe were real all of Steph's criticisms would be valid and it'd be amazing that he still had his job.

  

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274. "Kurt Angle is backstage tonight. Might want to watch just in case"
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275. "Awesome. Can't wait for another McMania. I love the McMahons taking cent..."
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Just fucking love it.

They've successfully iced every last spark of heat Ziggler had, birth slapped all the badass off of Dean Ambrose but HEY, they did us a solid and gave us gray haired Shane O'Mac to fill these top spots two McManias in row.

Here's hoping for a Russo Special and we get a nice swerve and Shane goes out and recruits a champion to serve as his surrogate.

  

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276. "RE: Ziggla"
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>Just fucking love it.
>
>They've successfully iced every last spark of heat Ziggler
>had, birth slapped all the badass off of Dean Ambrose but HEY,
>they did us a solid and gave us gray haired Shane O'Mac to
>fill these top spots two McManias in row.
>
>Here's hoping for a Russo Special and we get a nice swerve and
>Shane goes out and recruits a champion to serve as his
>surrogate.

Every time I see Ziggla, I wish he would've left WWE. Sure, he'd prolly be in Bullet Club but at least we'd get to see what it looks like to see him in important matches regularly.

He could be Liberace like Sandow or he could be ballin like Cody. Or he could be setting himself up like AJ did. AJ got that TNA stank away from himself and opened the floodgates of TNA folks making it over to WWE. And yeah, he stepped him game up and he's a better rassler now than he ever was before.

As it stands now, he's gonna be Jack Swagger. Or Phil.

  

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277. "Not Phil. Phil's still a hot name. "
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He's just about the only guy out there that could move the needle for TNA even with their shoot creative team, at least for a while. He dipped and it was all anyone could talk about for months.

Dolph is ice cold and if he bounced we'd barely notice and wouldn't care much.

  

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278. "Question: Is it safe to say that the Vince/Austin feud is the reason thi..."
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Do you think by ALWAYS having a McMahon somewhere in a storyline they are trying to recapture Vince/Austin in some sort of way? (not entirely like it, but thinking they can move the needle...just a smidge)

I'm beginning to think that is the backlash to the Vince/Austin angle. It made them think that they are draws when they really aren't and they don't realize it yet. Maybe the new generation of fans love it, but I know some, like me, are getting tired of authority figures playing a major role in great feuds.

I'd like to know where you stand on this.

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279. "what do you consider new generation of fans"
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cause i grew up on Vince/Austin and I am SOOOOOO tired of the story centering around the McMahons.
(edit: im 25, so i imagine this crap now is still fresh to like 10-15 year olds)

hell i like Stephanie for the most part other than the fact that she all in the videos too much. at least Vince was funny as fuck. she is a fucking drag since like 2005

HHH, the less said about him the better. yall already know how i feel about him.

idk why they don't realize you can have an authority figure and not center the whole damn program around them.

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280. "I would say within the last 5-10 years or so"
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You'd be an exception since you grew up on that angle, but I'm talking about the fans who may not know the impact that angle had on the industry or even those who came aboard late in the Ruthless Aggression Era.

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281. "I think they absolutely see themselves as McDraws. "
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I think they absolutely see themselves as McDraws.

They’re like fucking OxyClean.

Someone getting over with their own ideas? Let a McMahon squash it!
Missing a McMania match for a top star? Pour some McMahon on it!

It’s Willie fucking Wonka with these guys.

Flailing ratings? A McMahon Man Can!
Thin on top heels? A McMahon WoMan Can!

On the whole it seems like McVince sees his kids as true blue draws. From everything I’ve read it seems like McVince has enveloped himself a “reality distortion field” similar to the one employed by Steve Jobs. That McEgo won’t allow him to admit defeat.

If an idea fails, he ignores it and pushes forward while justifying his choice. If something gets over without this blessing he kills it or, at most, throws us a briefly placating bone before resuming his originally awful plans.

Remember: Daniel Bryan was originally scheduled for the destruction Cena got at SS from Lesnar.

No matter what the choice or the outcome, McVince and his McEgo find a way to spin it in his favor.

When people were screaming for Daniel Bryan they talked about how he didn’t draw good quarter hours then when people shat on falling ratings he and his McMinions hit the McMedia to talk about how ratings don’t matter anymore.

It’s why McSteph and/or her McHusband tend to have either no presence or minimal presence on shows on nights that historically get lower ratings, so that they can reinsert their McSelves into the following show and claim credit for increased ratings.

I don’t think they’re trying to recapture Austin/McVince because I think, as do you, that they believe they were a greater factor for that period than they actually were. Desperate times forced the McHand at the time, but with no competition today they can gluttonously feed the McEgos without consequence. At least, that is, as long as Wall Street approves.


If they were trying to get some of that Austin/McVince McMagic they’d allow guys to heat up. Just as they wanted to emphasize that they beat Billionaire Ted and dubbuyah cee dubbuyah, they now want to emphasize that they can beat the talent because in their mind, THEY are the talent.

I think that’s part of why they emphasize older stars so much, because they can reap the benefit of people who once had leverage without yielding any new leverage. Nobody who leaves becomes a difference maker because they’re kept at a certain level.

Look at Robo Reigns: Sure he’s got the size and the look, but he just does what he’s told. He doesn’t rock the boat. He offers no resistance to Vince’s ideas. That’s as much a part of what makes him Thee Guy in Vince’s eyes as anything.

WWE is little more than an ego feeding vanity project at this point.

I think it was Ryback who said that Vince was the billionaire that would be a trillionaire if he’d just allow ideas other than his own into the mix, but he’d rather be a billionaire and do it his way. No matter what the result is or the fan reaction he finds a way to spin things to justify his choices. So in his head the McMahons are and rightly should be the centerpiece of the show.

  

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295. "Have to just concede that Mania is booked for the casual fans... "
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... and casual fans love Shane's daredevil bumps.

Of course, in this case they're wasting the best wrestler on the roster to give it to 'em, which sucks. If the program was, say, Shane vs. Luke Harper, where I'd be comfortable with the match being some crazy garbage brawl in order to give Shane those highspots, I'd be a lot cooler with it.

I'm still holding out hope that they do some last-minute angle playing off the fact that Shane nearly killed himself in front of his children last year where they convince him not to take the match, and he ends up bringing in, like, Nakamura or even Kurt Angle as his proxy. But I wouldn't put money on it.

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306. "I'm honestly surprised he's wrestling after Survivor Series"
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that was a scary moment and he will have a scarier moment at Mania just because. Is the pop really worth it at this point? I understood it last year even if I didn't think Taker should've been tied up with me, but after a year of Shane as authority which has just been aight... who wants this???

  

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282. "Anybody checked out these Southpaw Regional Wrestling videos on YouTube?"
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WWE doing a parody of southern regional wrestling territories. Pretty funny stuff.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4RFCRpp9P0

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283. "I just saw all 4 episodes..."
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These are gold! I spat out my water at "Susan... call me back".

Really funny stuff!

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284. "Rusev...er I mean Big Bartholomew was hilarious to me"
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Hell, they've done a better build up of Big Bart vs The Sea Creature than for anything for Mania, lol.

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285. "yes! Rusev and Lana chanting USA! is hilarious..."
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"Doing it for all the Southern countries". So funny.

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288. "Well i bought myself a green jacket!!"
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This might well be the best thing they've ever produced

  

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298. "RE: Anybody checked out these Southpaw Regional Wrestling videos on YouT..."
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>WWE doing a parody of southern regional wrestling
>territories. Pretty funny stuff.
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4RFCRpp9P0

It's good times. The gift of the KFC ads just keep on giving.

I can't say for sure who each and every person is but it doesn't matter. It's fun and funny. It's the best stuff Anderson and Gallows has done in wwe in a walk.

  

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299. "RE: Anybody checked out these Southpaw Regional Wrestling videos on YouT..."
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I just don't know who the Sea Creature and the Luchador wrestler is. Everyone else I figured out. Cena, Fandango, Jericho, TJ Perkins, The Ascension, Tyler Breeze, Rusev & Lana, and Gallows and Anderson. Oh and Heath Slater. The Flair KFC ads are hilarious too.

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303. "These are brilliant. LOL@Bruce Mitchell predictably acting like they're ..."
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The fact that the only thing he liked was Ric Flair's commercial is a huge tell. He doesn't seem to hate them he just went off on some tangent about what makes for a good parody and how isn't it.

I'd have respected him more of he was just honest and said "yeah I just don't like them making fun of the shit I like".

  

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304. "RE: These are brilliant. LOL@Bruce Mitchell predictably acting like they..."
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>The fact that the only thing he liked was Ric Flair's
>commercial is a huge tell. He doesn't seem to hate them he
>just went off on some tangent about what makes for a good
>parody and how isn't it.
>
>I'd have respected him more of he was just honest and said
>"yeah I just don't like them making fun of the shit I like".

Thank you again for putting us onto this rasslin podcasts. When Conrad isn't going overboard over some issue, I've enjoyed the hell out of Brother Love giving his account of how stuff went down. Of course he's gonna vouch for his stufff but it seems that he's somewhat reasonable about it at least somewhat regularly. I've listened to about 5 eps. I have skipped around. I did Vader and Mania 9 first.

WWE taking the time to do these segments is great. It's a great tell that they can do just about anything they want with the resources they have on hand. Of course, it makes their Raw format all the more annoying but I'm currently in the process of training myself to treat Smackdown as the base weekly show since I'm less overtly opposed to most of those eps.

  

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286. "Paige porno leak with Xavier Woods / Brad Maddox"
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it's out there..
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287. "Poor Francesca 2!"
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289. "Gross, let's not talk about it here"
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294. "I wasn't gonna bother, but the latest leak will get her fired"
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I'm sure you've all heard by now but it involves the NXT women's title and let's just say it ain't good. She's the victim here so this extra sucks, but they would fire 99% of male talent for that and I can't see it going any other way.

  

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296. "as it should. i couldnt even imagine something that ridiculous."
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297. "Ya I saw the NXT title picture through memes unfortunately"
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She was already 1 foot out the door so it'll be easy to make it a 2nd foot and you're right, it's a real shame that it'll end her career there at least for a while as a victim.

  

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290. "man i'd pay a lot of money to see the locker room reaction to this"
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302. "RE: man i'd pay a lot of money to see the locker room reaction to this"
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>

It's prolly how the other 31 NFL teams felts when they saw what happened to the saints after the bounty gate stuff. Excel lists got renamed, moved, and emptied like crazy.

Also, folks should be Matt Hardy'd up. Aka Delete! Aka Post-haste! Cuz you can't just risk having some shit out there.

Ie: if you banged Bayley off and on for 4 months 2 years ago, look at the footage and booty pics she slid you one more time then either let it go or stick it on an offline storage device. You know...a hard drive. External hard drive. And not one that's connected if you just have to keep it.

Imagine the footage a Phil or Jern could have. Even TM Dean Ambrose might have some stuff since his 'run' was more recent.

And let's not imagine all of the dirt done pre-2000. Good thing there's probably NO digital footprint of all of that stuff. Flair and nem prolly laugh until they cry and woooo when they think of all of the undocumented trim they laced in their day.

  

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300. "RE: Paige porno leak with Xavier Woods / Brad Maddox"
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>it's out there..
>*cues X-Files theme*

Woods may get shelved for a bit. It ain't like New Day has a world of things going on right now. Maybe they'll just keep on with the backstage stuff.

They can't fire Paige for this. The pr would be brutal and they know this activity isn't outrageous. And you know, HHH is married to Stephanie MeekMahan. But they certainly know when her contract is up and she won't be signed again for a good long while. Mickie James made it back so folks can make it back.

Zoomed out, young folks are gonna be fuckin. I can understand this totally. I'd think it's even more of a thing when young folks who work in their drawers are involved.

I still can't fathom taping myself fucking around with folks. I just can't. And certainly not when I work with em and we're all trying to be celebs at some level. I couldn't shake the 'what if this gets out' issue. And I don't think you need footage to remember fucking Paige in various places. And I don't think she would either.

  

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301. "he Paige movie is going to make them think long and hard about punishmen..."
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I mean that SHOULD bring some positive attention to WWE right? Do they really want to make a big fuss while they are so involved with the filming and helping out with this thing. Then to not get any of the positive attention it might bring?

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312. "yeah the more i think about it i don't think they can fire her"
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but idk how you ever put her back on TV cause wrestling crowds are assholes

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316. "what did i miss w/ mickie james?"
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*starts googling furiously*

  

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317. "mickie shot a porno"
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309. "Might be best for WWE to just ignore it and let it fade away"
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Woods shouldn't be punished AT ALL. It wasn't even stolen from his phone. He really just got caught up in the middle of this whole thing. New Days merchandise is still hot. WWE isn't going to just pull that. This ain't no Hogan shit where the N word is being thrown around either.

My guess is they'll keep him or all of New Day off tv for awhile and then let them host WM as planned.

Honestly Paige shouldn't be let go because of this either. I know they probably want her gone for other reasons and this may be the icing on the cake. She didn't release this, it was stolen. Still a very messy situation.

Why be famous and record sex shit and keep it on things connected to the internet in these times? Record that bitch and have a laptop that is never connected to the internet. Or better yet get you a hand held recorder and a bunch of high storage SD cards and lock them shits up in a safe in your home.

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310. "The thing with the NXT belt will be what sinks her"
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I’m not speaking on whether it’s right, wrong or indifferent, just that it would be the most likely reason she gets let go. She’s the clear victim in all this but there have been lingering issues with her for some time and if they let her go that picture with the NXT title will simply be the tipping point.

  

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314. "I forgot about the belt being covered in jizz lmao"
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Yeah that'll do it then. Really bad look.

On the other hand, that was done privately with no plans to ever be shown to the public, so still not really her fault.


They may get rid of her, but they can't come out and say it was for that. Almost makes me feel like they're gonna really screw her over since they'll view it as her disrespecting the title.

Homegirl knows what she likes tho lol, can't hate her for that.

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291. "Quietly NXT has really been heating up lately"
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It's nearly impossible to follow regularly wth all the content they put out, but they've retooled the roster and now the Orlando Takeover card is looking like the best one since Dallas

Bobby Rode (C) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura for the Men's championship
Asuka (C) vs. Ember Moon for the Women's championship
Authors of Pain (C) vs. Revival vs. #DIY Triple Threat Elimination match for the Tag title
Probably Sanity vs. someone
Probably a Kassisus Ohno match (formerly Chris Hero)
Probably a Roderick Strong match (would love Ohno vs. Strong)

I've also liked the development of Billie Kaye and Peyton Royce, sucks that Billie got injured. They actually showed the post-match stuff of her getting sympathy from the crowd cause everyone knew it looked bad. Really cool kayfabe-breaking moment that makes me think they see her as a face.

  

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292. "My guess is Sanity vs Strong, Dilinger and Jose"
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I'd rather not see KO vs Roddy since Toddy needs to heat up a bit. I think he'll get a run from being associated with Dilinger.

I know that last line sounds odd but the NXT crowd adores Tye.

  

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293. "true, they don't seem to know where Roddy's character is going yet"
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>I'd rather not see KO vs Roddy since Toddy needs to heat up a
>bit. I think he'll get a run from being associated with
>Dilinger.
>
>I know that last line sounds odd but the NXT crowd adores Tye.

which is fine for now btw, just pointing that out. With Ohno in they don't need a top face to replace Shinsuke anymore, so perhaps Strong fakes a teamup with Tye and then turns on him quickly. Then again, Ohno is also a good heel so they have a lot of options here.

  

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305. "RE: Quietly NXT has really been heating up lately"
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>It's nearly impossible to follow regularly wth all the
>content they put out, but they've retooled the roster and now
>the Orlando Takeover card is looking like the best one since
>Dallas
>
>Bobby Rode (C) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura for the Men's
>championship
>Asuka (C) vs. Ember Moon for the Women's championship
>Authors of Pain (C) vs. Revival vs. #DIY Triple Threat
>Elimination match for the Tag title
>Probably Sanity vs. someone
>Probably a Kassisus Ohno match (formerly Chris Hero)
>Probably a Roderick Strong match (would love Ohno vs. Strong)
>
>I've also liked the development of Billie Kaye and Peyton
>Royce, sucks that Billie got injured. They actually showed the
>post-match stuff of her getting sympathy from the crowd cause
>everyone knew it looked bad. Really cool kayfabe-breaking
>moment that makes me think they see her as a face.

I'll always watch takeovers and enjoy myself. I've been getting back in on the weekly shows too lately.

Chris Hero is a wild man to show up still fat. Of course, he can work well even at his current size. And he doesn't need to look like Lex Luger 88 to get and stay over. But hopefully they're working with him on some sensible dinners just to take that issue off the table and make the cameras have an easier time shooting his matches. And I look forward to his interactions with Cesaro. Side: I had a good time watching him vs Zach Sabre last year in Dallas. And he was probably a bit bigger then.

Roode's career validation project is my favorite part of nxt right now. This title reign is gonna make him. He's in great shape and the nuances of his ring work are...duh...glorious. He's having to 'work for it' to win these matches and I like it. I'm glad they were quick to swap out his finisher. That pumphandle joint he started out with was the worst thing going.

  

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307. "As I predicted, they're making Ohno wear a shirt"
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Although I've seen him recently on the indies and he already looks like he's trimmed down a tad. Tough to tell with the shirt on, but they will have him cut some fat if they're gonna take him seriously.

  

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308. "His entire presentation is awkward and uninteresting. "
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-Theme song is boring and generic by boring and generic standards. It doesn't really present an attitude of any kind and doesn't present anything to connect with on a character level.

-The jerseys and matching trunks and pads are just flat out lame. It's a low budget, indyriffic and b list look. Plus the name is horrendous.

-His weight is only really an issue because he's not fat/bulky in a traditional sense. His height, size and body type are all in line with Vince's preferences but he carries his weight in ways that make him a visual oddity. The man has Rikishi level cellulite in his legs for crying out loud.

He really should be on Vince's radar for a fast track but the overall presentation of him at every turn makes him a very unexciting prospect IMO and it feels like a lost opportunity for Hero, WWE, and us as fans.

  

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318. "I only know Chris Hero by name but he doesn't strike me as a guy Vince'l..."
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I don't follow the indie scene beyond reading message boards and Twitter so I've never really seen Chris Hero wrestle, but watching him against Roode from the last NXT, he didn't come across as a star-in-waiting.

Part of it is the name ("Chris Hero" is good and punchy, why couldn't they just stick with that?), part of it is the attire, but I have to say, his physique isn't really helping. It's weird, I'm not a stickler on guys having to be in "good shape" or whatever, and I certainly feel like an asshole saying this, but he wears his weight in way that's frankly off-putting. All that, combined with his age, and it's hard to imagine him getting over at the next level, or at least having a guy like Vince give him a shot.

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322. "Hero is a much better name, and we already have a KO"
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>I don't follow the indie scene beyond reading message boards
>and Twitter so I've never really seen Chris Hero wrestle, but
>watching him against Roode from the last NXT, he didn't come
>across as a star-in-waiting.
>
>Part of it is the name ("Chris Hero" is good and punchy, why
>couldn't they just stick with that?), part of it is the
>attire, but I have to say, his physique isn't really helping.
>It's weird, I'm not a stickler on guys having to be in "good
>shape" or whatever, and I certainly feel like an asshole
>saying this, but he wears his weight in way that's frankly
>off-putting. All that, combined with his age, and it's hard to
>imagine him getting over at the next level, or at least having
>a guy like Vince give him a shot.

Yeah I get it. It is off-putting and will be tough to get over but I guarantee they make him trim down this time around. Vince probably still ain't crazy about his physique but Aitch has him under his wings for now. He can seriously go though. That match wasn't the best sample. He has a devastating moveset of kicks and elbows and like Owens he's surprisingly agile for his size and has a lot of endurance.

  

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323. "lol"
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The man has Rikishi level
>cellulite in his legs for crying out loud.
>

yeah I've seen it up close, and HD won't do him any favors. The t-shirt stays until he can seriously cut down.

  

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311. "WWE should go all-out in support of Paige and Woods. "
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For all their branding efforts and leveraging causes like breast cancer to elevate their public profile, standing firmly behind their employees (FOH with that independent contractor nonsense!) would be a great PR look.

Perhaps even contributing WWE attorneys to deal with it. Issue a statement about how these are adults who are allowed to have a private life and how this is a horrible invasion of their privacy and they’d get praised to high heaven.

Don’t fire anyone, give everyone a stern lecture on the subject, and leave it be. At most hand down some sort of punishment to Paige for the bit with the belt but let everyone live.

Maddox might well be blackballed for the thing with the belt though.

  

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313. "agree with all of this"
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Yeah if anyone is a "loser" in all of this its definitely Maddox.

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315. "Absolutely"
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Can't be mad at them. Their privacy was basically stolen.

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328. "Just read there will be no action taken against Paige and Woods"
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Kinda figured since their segment kinda alluded to it by Kofi and E asking Wood was there anything he'd like to talk about.

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319. "I have ZERO INTEREST in WrestleMania"
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The lead-up on both shows has been terrible.
The matches stink on paper.
Both HHH AND Shane on the card.
...and the Undertaker...again.
Mixed tag match with SuperCena and Bella...c'mon.

Everything about this PPV is weak to me...wake me up for the Monday-after RAW

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320. "wait no way lmfao"
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>Mixed tag match with SuperCena and Bella...c'mon.
>

vince favorite pet dont get his own solo match at MANIA?

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321. "I think it'll be middle-of-the-road for Manias"
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mainly due to length. I don't know that they can knock these out of the park with such long shows anymore, but they've gotten me excited about stuff I previously didn't care about. Tbf Aitch-Rollins has lost a lot of heat (unsanctioned fight angle could be great) and I keep forgetting about Ambrose-Corbin which isn't good. KO/Jericho is the highlight storyline-wise. AJ/Shane is not ideal but AJ puts on 4-star matches minimum if given time. I think Reigns can carry Taker to an impresive match and I've gotten into Wyatt/Orton too. Goldberg/Lesnar is blah but the spectacle of it will be fun. I'm most disappointed in the Raw Women storylines but the match itself should be great. I just hope Nia doesn't slow down the action too much.

The leadup on both shows has been a huge mess though, and it seems as good as Smackdown is they always have to take a back seat on the main PPVs. The women's and tag divisions both feel lost. The former will probably get lost on this card and the latter won't even get on the card. They have a little retooling to do after Mania, and Raw always needs some work.

  

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330. "WWE has a weird way to deliver on big cards..."
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that look bleh on paper. if i remember, the lead up to wm31 (santa clara) wasn't that great either and that turned out to be one of the more memorable manias. hopefully this will be the same.

they've actually done a really good job w/ cena/miz. miz' straddling the line bet shoot and work has been very entertaining.

  

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324. "Bishoff is inducting DDP. Would have preferred Jake "
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but this is an excellent choice.

I might be more excited for this class top to bottom than any other I can remember.

  

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331. "bishoff for me is turn the channel heat..."
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i too would have liked to see jake (or even nash).

  

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325. " This week's reccomendation is Vince & Meltzer on Donahue"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxavei-2Vw

It basically plays out like an episode of Raw and, for my money, is must see/listen.

-They cover the ring boy harassment allegations as well as some very disturbing allegations against Pat Patterson.

-Vince confronts an ex-employees allegations

-Superstar Billy Graham basically makes an ass out of himself by hurling the worst allegation of the entire show before Vince crushes him and Billy moves that goalpost with the quickness. Billy also seems to imply that Vince share some blame for his own drug use.

-Bruno Sammartino has some heated words for Vince and spits some nonsense about “don’t snitch” rules after Vince asks why Graham didn’t go to the cops over one of his accusations. I don’t know about you but given what Graham said he witness, that rule absolutely doesn’t apply there and Graham looks like a spineless pile of shit.

-Billy Graham hurling a bus at Hulk when asked if he helped get young wrestlers into steroids.

-Alarmingly free use of the word “midget”
-Meltzer’s complete uselessness to the entire show.

-More goalpost moving. They tried to paint a picture of rampant abuse and harassment but when pressed on the numbers dude was like “well I know of one other person…”

-A man in the crowd seeming to pull Bruno’s card

  

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340. "RE: This week's reccomendation is Vince & Meltzer on Donahue"
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxavei-2Vw
>
>It basically plays out like an episode of Raw and, for my
>money, is must see/listen.
>
>-They cover the ring boy harassment allegations as well as
>some very disturbing allegations against Pat Patterson.
>
>-Vince confronts an ex-employees allegations
>
>-Superstar Billy Graham basically makes an ass out of himself
>by hurling the worst allegation of the entire show before
>Vince crushes him and Billy moves that goalpost with the
>quickness. Billy also seems to imply that Vince share some
>blame for his own drug use.
>
>-Bruno Sammartino has some heated words for Vince and spits
>some nonsense about “don’t snitch” rules after Vince
>asks why Graham didn’t go to the cops over one of his
>accusations. I don’t know about you but given what Graham
>said he witness, that rule absolutely doesn’t apply there
>and Graham looks like a spineless pile of shit.
>
>-Billy Graham hurling a bus at Hulk when asked if he helped
>get young wrestlers into steroids.
>
>-Alarmingly free use of the word “midget”
>-Meltzer’s complete uselessness to the entire show.
>
>-More goalpost moving. They tried to paint a picture of
>rampant abuse and harassment but when pressed on the numbers
>dude was like “well I know of one other person…”
>
>-A man in the crowd seeming to pull Bruno’s card

This sounds INSANE but believable considering the folks listed. Good looking out again, Cold. It's crazy how much wrestling content is out there nowadays. Podcasts alone could eat up mountains of time.

I still have like 15 eps of Lucha Underground to get in on (season 3).

I'm too busy simming matches since I updated my Fire Pro Wrestling Returns roster with some new edits from fpwarena. Neville is criticaling folks with the red arrow. Shinsuke is kneeing folks in all sorts of ways. Matt is Broken and Impact can't stop it. Misawa lives. Shawn still rassles. AJ styles is still AJ styles. Good times.

  

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326. "rumored main even for wm18...*drum roll*..."
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brock-reigns

*price is right fail sound*

i'm not a reigns hater, in fact i'm all for a reigns run. but the more they push him this way, the more its just not going to work. if you want this to work, have him get beatdown by taker and strowman at mania. he loses, but it's 2 on 1, he disappears off tv for at least 2 months and comes back w/ a different character. more badass shield guy that straddles the line of heel/face, less babyface "the" guy.

  

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327. "I have to see how this Taker match plays out first"
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I have a strong feeling Taker is winning this year which will make Reigns more sympathetic to fans imo. Still think the best route is to turn him heel, watch his popularity rise, and then turn him back, but this could be a loss to Taker could be a shortcut to getting him over as a face if they play it right.

Had actually assumed they would get that feud in at Summerslam till I saw that was a rumor for next Mania.

  

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329. "maybe the fact that it's not at ss..."
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as many like you thought prob points to a really long build. it's obviously set up to have roman get the strap from brock but there's no way brock keeps the belt for a whole year. thus i'm sure we'll see multiple title changes, maybe even multiple turns.

i kinda like knowing what they're building to so you can pay attention to how they think about building the story up over the year.

  

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334. "Yup, other possibilities:"
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1. If this KO/Joe/Aitch faction is real I have a tough time believing they don't grab the title and hold it for a while. Any one of them really.
2. Reigns and/or Brock could get drafted/traded to Smackdown, meaning it might be co-main event with 1 or 2 other things. It's already been rumored for Roman.

Even removing Reigns from the convo, they have to be aware that Brock is diminishing returns at this point so a year-long title run does seem unlikely when there's no shortage of guys who are ready.

  

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336. "I woudn't be surprised if Brock drops the belt on Raw the next night..."
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I keep coming back to Finn Balor, but you've got to imagine he's gonna immediately go after the Universal Title—which is rightfully his, after all—upon returning. He's already wrestled at least one house show, so you figure he's gonna pop up on the next Raw or at 'Mania or the night after. And if he goes over Brock right away, you've just made a huge superstar.

How that leads to Brock-Reigns a year from now, who knows? I just hope they don't intend on keeping the belt on Brock for a long time.

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353. "RE: I woudn't be surprised if Brock drops the belt on Raw the next night..."
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>I keep coming back to Finn Balor, but you've got to imagine
>he's gonna immediately go after the Universal Title—which is
>rightfully his, after all—upon returning. He's already
>wrestled at least one house show, so you figure he's gonna pop
>up on the next Raw or at 'Mania or the night after. And if he
>goes over Brock right away, you've just made a huge
>superstar.
>
>How that leads to Brock-Reigns a year from now, who knows? I
>just hope they don't intend on keeping the belt on Brock for a
>long time.

This is in my head now and I want it to happen. Finn or AJ both work for me. Thanks!

Okay okay!

I at least want him get set up to defend the belt the day after Mania. Having it come from Kurt is just good times in a bottle. It's too easy.

  

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337. "they need to dead the Reigns shit once and for all. he just aint the guy..."
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332. "have we discussed brother love's podcast?"
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"something to wrestle with bruce pritchard"

awesome show. very insightful. they pick a wwe related topic every week and go into really good detail. they only pick topics where bruce was involved so its all first hand info (i didn't realize how long he was involved in the wwe).

highlights for me so far were the mega powers ep and the screwjob ep. i thought i'd heard everything about the screwjob but it was really cool to hear it from bruce's pov.

shout out to the host, conrad thompson, who does a great job. he hosts a similar show w/ tony schiavone (sp?). it seems to be just as good but i've only listened to the first show thus far.

  

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333. "In this very post actually"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2592111&mesg_id=2592111&page=#2595940

  

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335. "dammit, my bad."
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338. "Damn... Jim Ross's wife is on life support. "
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Some kid rear ended her while she was riding a Vespa without a helmet and now she's got swelling on the brain.

  

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339. "RIP"
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>Some kid rear ended her while she was riding a Vespa without
>a helmet and now she's got swelling on the brain.

Rip Jan Ross. Damn shame.

Side: Ric Flair was there when Jim and Jan met because of course he was.

  

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341. "There's certain stories that just hit me hard for some reason"
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This is one of them.

I don't know Jim Ross or his family, I've never met them and while I like wrestling he isn't particularly important to me.

But like you just hear this story and you know what a good guy JR is and all that he's gone through struggle wise and knowing nothing about them as a couple I just picture this adorable sweet couple and I'm just heartbroken by the whole thing.

  

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345. "yeah same here. this sucks to hear."
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349. "everyone has said Jan was the sweetest woman in / around the business"
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Would meet you, not see you for another year
and remember your name, ask about your wife or husband
was always happy, a thoughtful and kind person to anyone she met.


sucks for JR. He played a large role in my life as a child
hearing him every week, every ppv, calling the biggest moments
in wrestling during the time I watched.

peace and prayers to him and his family.

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342. "WWE in talks to buy ROH"
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No formal deal yet but they've been in discussions since January. Word is that the weekly show would move to the network but they don't know who would stay on. Still very early and I have mixed feelings about it. I would LOVE to have the ROH archives on the network more than anything and Jay Lethal in WWE is one of the things I've been begging for. I just don't know how many brands the WWE tent can hold before things become blah. They gonna have 3 world titles again? It'll probably just die the same death ECW did.

  

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343. "I see non real upside to this. This would be awful. "
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The worst thing for the quality of the wwe product, fans of that product, wrestlers themselves and the industry as a whole is a lack of alternative options. This would remove the best of the options available in the US.

The best outcome I see is An initial infusion of talent to NXT with some members of the ROH roster with NXT but that will have diminishing returns.

  

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344. "No upside for a fan, lots of upside for WWE"
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When the indy fans have nowhere left to turn, they will quit wrestling or watch the product available to them.

  

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346. "i would think most ROH fans..."
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would end up not watching at all. totally different fan bases/products. wwe is just in the old mindset of 'let's take over all the territories'. this doesn't make sense, it's not like roh is either a threat or a funnel for talent for them.

  

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348. "I promise you, nearly every ROH fan watches WWE"
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347. "who's to know? "
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Would be premature to just guess/assume that they ruin it. Maybe they just treat it as they always have - a less polished feeder league - and view the purchase more as a means to get hours of content for the Network. Not only would the WWE run ROH shows on the Network - hours of new episodic programming- they would also acquire the ROH video vault. That would be huge for the Network. Think of everyone that's come through there and how even better they could showcase guys like Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, and Samoa Joe.

Again, I just think it's a little early to outright call this purchase an inevitable disaster. ROH stays in business and continues to spotlight raw young talent in its own unique way and WWE becomes equipped with literally weeks worth of new content.

Also, isn't there already some vague working relationship between WWE and Evolve out of the Northeast? They should put those shows on WWE Network too. PWG too. Chikara too. WWE Network could evolve into a platform to view all different kinds of wrestling from everywhere, much like UFC Fight Pass broadcasts shows form dozens of other smaller MMA leagues, BJJ tournaments, and kickboxing.

  

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352. "Nope. WWE is incredibly predictable. "
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>Would be premature to just guess/assume that they ruin it.

Why? That's not even the nature of my speculation.

Do you have a an argument for why absorbing the best stateside alternative is a good thing?

When a guy gets future endeavored from wwe, that's one less potential employer.

>Maybe they just treat it as they always have - a less polished
>feeder league - and view the purchase more as a means to get
>hours of content for the Network.

This is primarily for the tape library.

Do you think taking away another major competitor and thus, potential employer for wrestlers is good for the industry and those who participate in it?

It's hardly premature to speculate on the way a lack of alternatives can negatively impact the industry. Much of the stale nature of the current product is due to a complete lack of major competition.

We've seen how they recreated ECW in their failed image. We've seen the stilted, overly sanitized corporate product generated in the absence of competition. What reason is there to expect them to treat ROH any different from ECW?

I can easily cite a long list of facts to validate my trepidation toward the idea. It's absolutely not too early to speculate on the potential impact of such a move.

The tape library will be great and make great fodder for DVD sets. Some of the talent acquisitions will be valuable.

After that?

I'm two years time a lot of those guys should have gone through ROH and cut their teeth there will be nothing more than cookie cutter WWE guys without the prior seasoning offered by one of the few significant alternatives.

The one positive for the industry is that this may inadvertently help other companies like PWG.

I got similar dismissals years ago when I was complaining about the emphasis given to The Rock returning because it pointed to a preference toward older stars at the expense of developing their youth.

Now, in 2017, Wrestlemania is about to be anchored by Goldberg, Brick Lesnar, the Undertaker and HHH at the top, Randy Orton just won a royal rumble and AJ styles is going to wrestle the Mighty McJunior.

WWE is very predictable. If you want to contest the validity of my speculation, by all means, but show the math. This no different than being able to tell how coaching or GM hires will impact a pro sports team. nobody "knows" until the dust settles.... But there's always plenty of information available to form an educated opinion on how things might shake out.

  

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355. "Yea I mean, again man, that's all speculation"
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I think the Network makes it a possibility that they just want more content. Could be cheaper to just buy an indie company -buy content "in bulk" - than to keep producing their own

  

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356. "SMH. And? This entire subject is speculation...as are forums."
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>I think the Network makes it a possibility that they just
>want more content.

B-b-b-but that's just speculation. Who can know, right?

The vast majority of these posts are speculative. There's literally a pool for people to speculate on the winners of every PPV card.

We speculate on where guys might wind up when they're released.
We speculate on what current booking decisions mean for the big picture.

We speculate on who Takers next Mania opponent will be.... or if each Mania match is his last.

There's literally speculation above on who Orton's Mania opponent was whether or not he would make good on his word to Bray not to face him.

In NBA/NFL threads, WE SPECULATE on where free agents are going, what coaches might get fired, who might replace them, who might get traded and why, which players are liked or disliked, the list goes on.

When movies are announced to be in development, we speculate on who might be cast in those movies, who would be good to direct and write.

We speculate on sequels and what characters might show up. We speculate on TV shows, who person X REALLY is or why they're there.

YOU are literally in here speculating on why this is under consideration. In fact, this very subject is speculation at it's core.

There's absolutely no point in dismissing and downplaying speculation for being speculation because that's a large part of what we do not just in this thread but message boards in general, particularly if you're going to offer your own speculation as a response.

Like.. either have a discussion on the merits of available information or don't.

>Could be cheaper to just buy an indie
>company -buy content "in bulk" - than to keep producing their
>own

^^^Speculation. Who can know, right?

It's cool if you don't have an actual opinion or insight on the subject but this "it's all speculation" bit is asinine.

  

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357. "You're certain WWE buying ROH is a disaster"
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And I think that's as founded as me saying maybe it won't be bad.

  

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358. "Psst.. That's my *opinion*, and it's based on established patterns"
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If you have some actual thoughts that addresses my *opinion* on the actual merits based on some sort of information, I'm all ears.

Telling me my opinion is "unfounded" is ridiculous. You act as though there's no foundation for anything I've expressed and that's 100% false.

My speculative opinion actually has quite a bit to stand on. Even those in here who might disagree with my conclusion will readily admit that I've presented several inarguably valid issues. There are facts embedded in my speculation that aren't even up for debate.

As usual you don't have anything of any substance to say.

Either have an actual conversation on the merits of the mountain of available historical information or run along.

I asked you several pointed questions that should be easy to answer. You chose to ignore them, which is fine, but illustrates that you're not interested in any actual discussion or exchange of ideas.

Which means you're basically just here to troll. If you have no interest in actual discussion on the subject, for the love of god, just KIM.

  

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359. "Facts:"
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1.
Relative to WWE or even TNA hardly anyone watches ROH consistently, largely due to the fact that their program simply isn't that accessible and needs to be sought out. The kinds of people who will seek out ROH are diehards anyway. At present, it is more difficult for ROH to recruit new fans organically. Objective fact.

2.
The WWE Network boasts a monthly subscriber amount of anywhere between 1-1.5 Million people. Should ROH weekly programming air across the WWE Network, ROH will instantaneously be more accessible to a potentially larger audience who may have been previously less inclined to watch their show or who were altogether unfamiliar with it. Simply, WWE Network could show ROH to more people and introduce ROH to more people. That's of course a good thing and an objective fact.

3.
By acquiring ROH's loaded video archives, WWE creates a win-win situation for all involved parties. WWE is equipped with not only more content, but content that is unique to its more traditional slickly-produced programming. This creates an opportunity to introduce WWE-only fans to a true alternative and, possibly also provide incentive for non-subscribers to sign up. A good thing and an objective fact.

4.
With access to all of this new video footage, WWE can now tell even more detailed stories about a lot of its its top guys. Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, Samoa Joe, Cesaro, AJ Styles, and Daniel Bryan could now all be showcased in an even more nuanced light. When El Generico inevitably debuts and feuds with Owens? Go to the old tapes. If Daniel Bryan ever comes back and talks about the years of damage he sustained even before WWE? Go to the old tapes. When CM Punk inevitably returns? When Samoa Joe competes for his first title shot? If Cesaro and Kassius Ohno ever team up? WWE will have all of this great footage that could help them tell these stories better. A good thing and an objective fact.

5.
The notion that WWE destroyed ECW is largely informed by what they did with ECW with their abysmal "relaunch" attempt. The truth is that the original ECW was on its last legs prior to its purchase and faced with a talent pool that was all but bare by that point. Paul Heyman has admittedly stated that he was not an especially organized business person and that the hopes of the company rested on their getting a new TV deal circa appx 2002 and ensuring their staying accessible to fans. There's a potential framework wherein ROH could land on WWE Network and avoid any similar scenario, wherein WWE remains hands off and the Network is simply a broadcast platform. UFC Fight Pass works on a model like the one I'm describing and it works really well. Potential to mix up their programming offerings on WWE Network and use ROH as a litmus test to showcase even more independent promotions down the road is a good thing and an objective fact.


AND...that's not to say this is all going to happen! Maybe they do just buy it and torpedo it and if that happens it would be a huge shame. But I contend that this could be a good thing that's beneficial to a lot of people - WWE, ROH, and, most importantly, the fans.

  

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360. "I see half truths and badly out of context platitudes. "
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>Relative to WWE or even TNA hardly anyone watches ROH
>consistently, largely due to the fact that their program
>simply isn't that accessible and needs to be sought out. The
>kinds of people who will seek out ROH are diehards anyway. At
>present, it is more difficult for ROH to recruit new fans
>organically. Objective fact.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about. It's an alternative that, at minimum, has provided wrestlers with another place to go for seasoning and a different way of doing things.

The objective fact here is that more places for wrestlers to work and gain experience is better than less.

The objective fact here is that more alternatives independent of WWE is better than less, regardless of how many fans they're able to attract. ROH's ability to recruit new fans or grow into something bigger has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not WWE would present a quality current version of the product.

The objective fact is WWE has mined a great deal of ROH talent, but acquiring the name doesn't mean WWE will be able to produce those types of wrestlers because WWE has their own way of doing things. New wrestlers coming to ROH would essentially be coming to WWE's Version Of ROH, not ROH.

>The WWE Network boasts a monthly subscriber amount of anywhere
>between 1-1.5 Million people. Should ROH weekly programming
>air across the WWE Network, ROH will instantaneously be more
>accessible to a potentially larger audience who may have been
>previously less inclined to watch their show or who were
>altogether unfamiliar with it. Simply, WWE Network could show
>ROH to more people and introduce ROH to more people. That's of
>course a good thing and an objective fact.

This actually isn't an objective fact at all.

The objective fact is that we don't know how WWE will present ROH OR if it will actually keep it alive as a current product at all. Again, all reports from the most respected insiders indicates that the primary motive is the tape library, not as a continued product.

I also have objective facts regarding past purchases of wrestling companies: WWE bought WCW and just folded it in. WWE bought ECW, and just folded it in. When WWE finally did "revive" ECW, it didn't resemble "ECW" at all.

So this idea that ROH will suddenly get a massive audience doesn't have a leg to stand on since the likelihood, based on readily observable past behavior, is that the WWE will keep the tape library and simply fold some of the talent into existing rosters before discarding the rest.

If ROH were revived, it's highly unlikely it would exist in it's current form so no... the notion of WWE presenting ROH to a massive audience is anything but factual. Objectively, that's a much longer shot and I've listed a much more likely scenario.

Again, this is based on readily observable history.

>3.

>By acquiring ROH's loaded video archives, WWE creates a
>win-win situation for all involved parties. WWE is equipped
>with not only more content, but content that is unique to its
>more traditional slickly-produced programming. This creates an
>opportunity to introduce WWE-only fans to a true alternative
>and, possibly also provide incentive for non-subscribers to
>sign up. A good thing and an objective fact.

Wrong again.

Fact:

Current content far and away consumes the bulk of content by Network subscribers. Even if ROH gained new fans from this that number would be minimal, and as I've already covered, if WWE retained them as a current product it would likely exist in a form that's decidedly different from ROH as we know it.

I'm not sure how you can argue that WWE would be presenting a "true alternative" when past behavior strongly suggests that they'd most likely offer a WWE version of ROH.

Could it happen? sure.
Is it likely? no.

See the difference?

>4.
>With access to all of this new video footage, WWE can now tell
>even more detailed stories about a lot of its its top guys.
>Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, Samoa Joe, Cesaro, AJ Styles, and
>Daniel Bryan could now all be showcased in an even more
>nuanced light.

Yes, and this is something I touched on in my initial reply to you.

When El Generico inevitably debuts and feuds
>with Owens? Go to the old tapes. If Daniel Bryan ever comes
>back and talks about the years of damage he sustained even
>before WWE? Go to the old tapes. When CM Punk inevitably
>returns? When Samoa Joe competes for his first title shot? If
>Cesaro and Kassius Ohno ever team up? WWE will have all of
>this great footage that could help them tell these stories
>better. A good thing and an objective fact.

Yes, one good aspect that I'd already touched on. So I'll retract "no real upside" to 'limited upside".

>5.
>The notion that WWE destroyed ECW is largely informed by what
>they did with ECW with their abysmal "relaunch" attempt. The
>truth is that the original ECW was on its last legs prior to
>its purchase and faced with a talent pool that was all but
>bare by that point.

Uh... I never said WWE "destroyed" ECW. I literally didn't say anything about that.

Paul Heyman has admittedly stated that he
>was not an especially organized business person and that the
>hopes of the company rested on their getting a new TV deal
>circa appx 2002 and ensuring their staying accessible to fans.

Thanks for the lesson but again... lol... I have no idea what this has to do with anything I've said.

Here's what I actually said:

"seen how they recreated ECW in their failed image. We've seen the stilted, overly sanitized corporate product generated in the absence of competition. What reason is there to expect them to treat ROH any different from ECW?"

I didn't say anything about WWE killing ECW. I spoke about the way WWE treated ECW as IP once they acquired it. You're off on a tangent that doesn't address what I'm talking about at all, which is that WWE's presentation of ECW was a failure.

>There's a potential framework wherein ROH could land on WWE
>Network and avoid any similar scenario, wherein WWE remains
>hands off and the Network is simply a broadcast platform.

WWE remain hands off?

Make no mistake, if ROH landed on WWE as content, WWE would absolutely NOT be hands off. Not for long, anyways. There's very little to assume that they would, but much cause to speculate that they wouldn't.

At best he'd let Paul run ROH. Vince lets Paul run NXT, yes, but as a developmental territory... which means acclimating everyone to the myriad groan-inducing corporate WWE-isms. Vince "could" let Paul- or whomever- run ROH independently without turning it into another Main Roster Prep Camp, but odds say that's unlikely.

Your only objective fact here is "it's possible". It's possible that you or I will win Powerball one day, but that's not likely.

>Fight Pass works on a model like the one I'm describing and it
>works really well.

Good for them. The fact that such a model "can" work isn't the point of contention, the notion of WWE and Vince actually broadcasting current content on their network that they have no creative control over.

Again: history supports my position on the likelihood of this happening.

That doesn't make it impossible, just improbable.

>Potential to mix up their programming
>offerings on WWE Network and use ROH as a litmus test to
>showcase even more independent promotions down the road is a
>good thing and an objective fact.

Yes... "potential" is an objective fact.

Problem is... the greater objective fact is that this is HIGHLY improbable.

Not impossible, just not likely.

>AND...that's not to say this is all going to happen! Maybe
>they do just buy it and torpedo it and if that happens it
>would be a huge shame. But I contend that this could be a good
>thing that's beneficial to a lot of people - WWE, ROH, and,
>most importantly, the fans.

Yes, if WWE completely went against their deeply ingrained tendencies, it would absolutely be a good thing.

But my speculation on what is *probable *is based on readily observable past and current tendencies. Your optimism isn't based on much other than what's technically *possible*, but that's a blank check in fantasyland.

  

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361. "we're almost saying two different things here"
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My stance is - ROH will be seen by more people, used to better support current characters, and possibly help bring more indies to the WWE Network

Your stance is - the new ROH is going to definitely suck if WWE buys it

Dude, it may suck!!!

But I am right in saying that, for better or worse, more people will see ROH one way or another - TV shows, archived videos, Superstar DVD packages...That's why I think there's positives. I'm not saying ANYTHING speculative about the WWE-owned ROH product. You're basically basing your whole stance on the WCW/ECW Invasion angle and the failed 2006 ECW and all of that definitely did blow. But let's not kid ourselves into thinking ROH is anywhere close in notoriety to WCW or ECW circa 2002. ROH is a really big indie that still runs community centers, high school gyms, and ballrooms. I think it's totally plausible that WWE just buys it and leaves it alone and cherry picks talent from it occasionally.

  

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362. "Since when did terms like "most likely" and "more probable" mean "defini..."
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>My stance is - ROH will be seen by more people, used to better
>support current characters, and possibly help bring more
>indies to the WWE Network

None of this is based on anything. You have no data, no information, no past or present tendencies to base this on.

>Your stance is - the new ROH is going to definitely suck if
>WWE buys it

NOPE. It's telling that you don't use the words I actually used. "Probably" and definitely" paint two very different pictures.

What's funny is you made a definitive statement above with no historical foundation to support it while I've made statements rooted in probabilities based on mountains of past and current tendencies.

>Dude, it may suck!!!
>
>But I am right in saying that, for better or worse, more
>people will see ROH one way or another - TV shows, archived
>videos, Superstar DVD packages...

No, you're not right at all. In order for you to be right you completely ignore the variables. When you have to ignore all the data in order to make your argument...you don't have an argument.

That's why I think there's
>positives. I'm not saying ANYTHING speculative about the
>WWE-owned ROH product.

No, because you're making definitive statements that "more people will see ROH" while completely ignoring the very real probability that the current/new version people see might not resemble ROH.

You're basically basing your whole
>stance on the WCW/ECW Invasion angle and the failed 2006 ECW
>and all of that definitely did blow.

100% false.

. But let's not kid
>ourselves into thinking ROH is anywhere close in notoriety to
>WCW or ECW circa 2002.

Uh... Yeah

Never made that argument. Keep in building strawmen though lol.

ROH is a really big indie that still
>runs community centers, high school gyms, and ballrooms.

And?

>think it's totally plausible that WWE just buys it and leaves
>it alone and cherry picks talent from it occasionally.

Cool. You have absolutely nothing to base that on but have fun with that.

  

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363. "RE: we're almost saying two different things here"
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Dog....I get what u r saying...U r on the money.....

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350. "I haven't watched much ROH but what would suck about this"
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is where do the wrestlers who leave WWE then go?

this is the biggest indie promotion out there.
guys get to go bang out some dates, get some cash,
retool their character and get some love from fans.

where do they go after WWE now? Or before WWE?

Japan? a MUCH lesser US indie establishment?

weak.

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354. "RE: WWE in talks to buy ROH"
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>No formal deal yet but they've been in discussions since
>January. Word is that the weekly show would move to the
>network but they don't know who would stay on. Still very
>early and I have mixed feelings about it. I would LOVE to have
>the ROH archives on the network more than anything and Jay
>Lethal in WWE is one of the things I've been begging for. I
>just don't know how many brands the WWE tent can hold before
>things become blah. They gonna have 3 world titles again?
>It'll probably just die the same death ECW did.

The tape library is the prize here. NXT would be grand as hell fo sho, but I'd prefer it if ROH could keep it together on their own for at least a while longer. If they go, it's PWG or bust for North America and NJPW besides that? I don't consider TNA a real option for folks to really think they're doing great cuz...well...it's TNA.

  

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364. "RE: WWE in talks to buy ROH"
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Jay Lethal in the WWE would be insanely entertaining.....

Don't know if Cena posting a pic of Jay on his Instagram means anything...But damn, that would be dope....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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365. "PLEASE don't let this happen"
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All I can see in how they bastardized the ECW name and eventually killed it. Must Vince take every strong indie from Philly and destroy them?

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351. "miz and maryse clowning tf out of nikki and cena (clip)"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BR8w9MRgq5G/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BR8xPRVg4UF/

i guess miz aint half bad. this is legit funny and its rare he cracks me up

also maryse wears the outfit better than nikki

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367. "YOOOOO miz/maryse annihilated dbry cena and the bellas on SDLive"
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they went entirely too hard lmfao. when miz came in as bryan i died.

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368. "Everyone went too far last night"
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I was so uncomfortable watching, but in the best way.

The build to this match has been incredible but I wonder what the backstage relationship is like between these 4 at this point.

  

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370. "to appear as a credible foe against Cena, you SHOULD go HAM"
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If you know he's way more ever than you'll ever be and that you're going to get squashed anyway, go for it. Shouts to the Miz

  

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371. "I'm more upset at how far Cena goes"
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He does this in every feud recently.

Of course the heel is going to go in on you about how you bury people etc...but when you go in even harder about what a disappointment they are and how after you beat them their career will be meaningless AND THEN you beat them.

I mean, they don't need that

  

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373. "Cena's got free reign but he's not smart enough to use it right "
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Ironically, for being paid $20M a movie in 2017, Rock had no ego when he got to "bigger than it all" status. I distinctly remember him laying down for Christian once during the height of E&C's run and also putting over Hurricane a few years later. He'd make fun of guys for not getting laid but not for, like, not being able to afford first class flights in real life.

Cena though is a meathead and doesn't see the forest from the trees. When Owens debuted and beat him clean, the very next night Cena did his usual high school football coach shtick about earning stripes and him beating HBK and Kurt Angle and shit. He then promptly went and beat Owens two times after. I think he's just dumb.

  

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376. "Cena has gotten better at letting people get over for the most part"
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He has continued to improve in the ring and has helped other people look good in the ring.

But on the mic, he just buries them beyond repair and while it's great and exciting to watch, I think he does legit damage to them sometimes.

  

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374. "man that shit looked like real legit disdain on both sides."
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Cena was definitely pissed and I don't blame him.

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377. "Well put. Everyone DID go too far but Cena destroyed Maryse..."
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Why he didn't give those lines to Nikki to say is beyond me but he ethered her. They shat on him for a few weeks but still... it seemed a bit vicious.

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378. "man he steamrolled maryse. that should've been nikki's job"
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but after them lil 2 lines they let nikki get in im glad they barely let her talk. she def the worst on the mic of that 4some

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375. ""the pitter-patter of little feet" line killed me"
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366. "Has Jericho ever been this over? "
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382. "RE: Has Jericho ever been this over? "
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I don't know. Maybe not. Once he got past his Jeriblow era in his first WWE run, he was pretty up there.

When he went to WWE at first, I remember being terrified that the lifts in the boots, the extra weight, and the bigger WWE ring/lights/everything was gonna eat him up and ruin him. But nope. Jericho could talk, he brought the comedy in a way that Vince probably loves, he had worker cred since he had been everywhere, and, as he's showing now, he's a borderline maestro at nuanced character work.

I may as well admit now that I wanted Benoit to go to WWE before I wanted Jericho over there. But oh man..when he interrupted The Rock and went toe to toe with him? Shiiiiiiid. Good times.

  

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369. "3 matches moved to pre show"
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Andre battle royal - What's even the point of this thing?

Crusierweight title- Why try to give a spotlight to the division?

Women's SD match- Say goodbye to any cool surprises here

  

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372. "Them rope replacers are gonna be busy early "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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381. "Word is SD Women are now on the main card."
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383. "Seems like..."
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>Andre battle royal - What's even the point of this thing?
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>Crusierweight title- Why try to give a spotlight to the
>division?
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>Women's SD match- Say goodbye to any cool surprises here

The final card is pretty solid. AKA I think there's gonna be some fun and good rasslin Sunday evening. There's so many big matches that you can easily 'forget' about a match. I talked about Mania for 30 minutes with a couple friends at lunch and we smooth forgot about Goldberg/Lesnar for the first 20.

I wish they would've saved Naomi showing up as a soft/expected surprise, but oh well.

As for 'predictability': outside of Lesnar winning, the booking could be reasonably laid out even with the 'less likely' finishes. And anyone could win those women's matches..except Bayley! She's losing fo sho, riiiiight?

If Reigns/Taker is going on last AGAIN, I can't help but think Taker is losing (AGAIN) somehow..especially if he's feeling like Danny Glover. If so, going on last is the best call cuz folks would damn near be talking in Owen voice for the rest of the show. I currently think Reigns is gonna win with some kind of shenanigans to cement the 'heel' in him. If so, it's gonna be great fun to see the reactions. WWE has to be scurred of going too heavy-handed on the heel stuff tho. Having folks think that 'they don't get it' has to be one of their greatest joys. IE: I honestly think wrestling promoters savor the moments when they can work a crowd. And I'm now firmly under the impression that Vince and them love the reactions young Roman gets.

  

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384. "Reigns should just squash Taker, beat his ass after, cut a heel promo"
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But they won't do that.

If you turned Reigns nuclear heel for one year, he'd come out on the other side like your new Rock

  

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379. "OKPW Prediction Series: WrestleMania & BonusMania"
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(I will post this again in the new thread when that is created between now and WrestleMania)

We've made it to the final event of the OKPW Prediction Series. Given it's WrestleMania, the grand daddy of them all, and because I want as many people as possible to have a chance at the glory of winning it all, there will be a total of 30 points up for grabs between the 13 matches and 17 bonus questions.

A reminder of what’s at stake: $30 to spend, but you must use it towards a WWE Shop purchase (they don’t do gift cards so I will PayPal and you will provide proof of a purchase). $30 should cover most t-shirts plus tax.

I’m not going to write out the entire card here but you can find both the WrestleMania prediction sheet as well as the “BonusMania” sheet (there are two different sheets) on the Google Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RZgRvUsyrRwPDsnlMGaeo3ymxXn0duAuyi0Soi5Urnc/edit?usp=sharing

The current standings heading into the final event:

Jimaveli 77
Oak27 76
Af-1 71
Y2Flound 68
Selassie I God 66
KCPlayer21 63
pretentious_username 62
magilla vanilla 61
Max_Ptah 57
Great1 2k7 45
Stankpalmer 26
Mole 8
im_freshhh 1

We currently have a 62% match prediction percentage, however the duel branded PPVs have proven to be tougher to call as we have only a 48% match prediction percentage. With that in mind, lets hope WrestleMania continues the trend of unpredictability.

  

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386. "Thanks again for running this"
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This has been very fun, even if I'm bad at it. I'm going to start a new post now btw.

  

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380. "Great read on Kurt Angle, where he was and where he's going..."
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https://theringer.com/kurt-angle-wrestling-wwe-tna-hall-of-fame-addiction-e0b2a3a5460c

  

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385. "RE: I wonder if it's true..."
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>Royal Rumble is this weekend so time for a fresh post. We're
>also 66 days away from WrestleMania 33.

It's not huge but I didn't want to type it into the subject line.

Jim Ross back with WWE? Announcing a match (Goldy/Lesnar) tomorrow with King? If this isn't just some April 1st shenanigans, whoa. And niiiiice.

  

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