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will_5198
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"Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon's Ray Rice tape is finally out"


          

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/12/16/joe-mixon-assault-video-released-oklahoma

took two years to release, but this is what earned him a redshirt season under Bob Stoops. the video was reviewed back then by Stoops, Oklahoma school president David Boren and Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione.

Stoops was on a roll that year (2014):

- Oklahoma LB Frank Shannon was suspended the season after the school conducted a sexual assault investigation against him

- Oklahoma accepted the transfer of WR Dorial Green-Beckham, who was kicked out of Missouri for knocking his girlfriend down a flight of stairs and dragging her outside by her neck (no charges filed)

- Oklahoma signed WR Dede Westbrook, who was arrested twice for domestic violence (no charges filed)

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goodness
Dec 17th 2016
1
Fire everyone. Sooner rather than later.
Dec 17th 2016
2
They all should be fired
Dec 17th 2016
3
I'm against violence, but I'm not a sexist, so I got no real beef
Dec 17th 2016
4
he followed her into the restaurant.
Dec 17th 2016
6
RE: he followed her into the restaurant.
Dec 17th 2016
7
watching this after reading the transcript of the Minn incident
Dec 17th 2016
11
It was the night he turned 18.
Dec 17th 2016
12
smh. hyperbole much?
Dec 17th 2016
15
The parking ticket also wasn't what you are hyping it to be
Dec 17th 2016
24
      enough to get suspended. great judgment again.
Dec 17th 2016
25
           Agreed. But what's the solution?
Dec 17th 2016
26
                we have to stop this cycle of non-accountability.
Dec 17th 2016
27
not gonna kill it because mixon is a fucking asshole
Dec 17th 2016
23
fuck him then
Dec 17th 2016
30
Dude fucked up, but you also can't dismiss the girls role
Dec 17th 2016
14
      Nobody cares about reasons in the court of public opinion
Dec 18th 2016
31
      you're definitely not wrong. I just wish we admitted she was criminal to...
Dec 18th 2016
32
      I agree...
Dec 18th 2016
34
the only good thing for oklahoma is that it shows
Dec 17th 2016
5
alright who's ready for some bowl games?!?!?!?!??!
Dec 17th 2016
8
right? can we get a good story at some point, sheesh.
Dec 17th 2016
17
GOTDAYUM!!! he overreacted, but he ain't got emotional tools
Dec 17th 2016
9
jesus.
Dec 17th 2016
10
Mixon asked his attorney to release it
Dec 17th 2016
13
right, it didnt come out after two years by accident
Dec 17th 2016
16
      it's been in court for two years because of the media
Dec 17th 2016
18
...and is getting far more attention than Minnesota report/situation
Dec 17th 2016
19
college sports would be cancelled if they had video of that shit
Dec 17th 2016
20
it's visceral.
Dec 17th 2016
21
oklahoma vs minnesota. only one program actually matters.
Dec 17th 2016
22
they both seem like terrible people
Dec 17th 2016
28
1st round talent, undraftable character
Dec 17th 2016
29
LOL at people in here with the she started it argument
Dec 18th 2016
33
people are human bro..
Dec 18th 2016
35
This isn't a question of wrongness. It's a question of Ray Rice-ness.
Dec 23rd 2016
42
No program can afford to kick out Dede & Joe Mixon,
Dec 19th 2016
36
Some of y'all could rationalize the Holocaust
Dec 19th 2016
37
I'm sure you were the polished & perfected adult now at 18 & a day, too.
Dec 22nd 2016
39
People lumping this in with domestic violence are idiots
Dec 22nd 2016
38
The video also shows exactly what was reported to have happened
Dec 22nd 2016
41
He's black and she's white.
Dec 24th 2016
46
Bob Stoops took a L up there, today
Dec 22nd 2016
40
police interview from 2014:
Dec 23rd 2016
43
She called him a nigga AND threw hands first.....
Dec 23rd 2016
44
Held a 25 minute Q&A presser that no national news attended
Dec 24th 2016
45
Welp. Works for me.
Dec 25th 2016
51
how was she not charged with anything, tho?
Dec 24th 2016
47
College town in Oklahoma and her face was exploded.
Dec 25th 2016
48
she should have been..
Dec 25th 2016
49
Idk maybe because ol dude Rearranged her face?
Dec 25th 2016
50
      that's kind of a problem though
Dec 25th 2016
52

Dstl1
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1. "goodness"
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2. "Fire everyone. Sooner rather than later."
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3. "They all should be fired"
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he broke her fucking jaw. that video is hard to watch.

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4. "I'm against violence, but I'm not a sexist, so I got no real beef"
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No one should care that it's a woman as opposed to a man. A human spits on you, lays their hands on you twice and you give 'em a quick one, *shrugs*

If he had started it or kept striking her or anything like that, I would hold him at fault, but when the person instigating the situation is doing it because they believe they can't be touched, fuck 'em.

  

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6. "he followed her into the restaurant."
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>but when the person
>instigating the situation is doing it because they believe
>they can't be touched, fuck 'em.

walks in and makes a beeline for her. whatever happened outside, he had time to think about it (notice his teammates with him didn't go in).

last month he got suspended for approaching a parking attendant after being written a ticket, ripping it up, throwing it in his face, got his car and then inched towards the attendant in drive.

over a parking ticket.

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7. "RE: he followed her into the restaurant."
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>>but when the person
>>instigating the situation is doing it because they believe
>>they can't be touched, fuck 'em.
>
>walks in and makes a beeline for her. whatever happened
>outside, he had time to think about it (notice his teammates
>with him didn't go in).
>
>last month he got suspended for approaching a parking
>attendant after being written a ticket, ripping it up,
>throwing it in his face, got his car and then inched towards
>the attendant in drive.
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>over a parking ticket.
>

So many of these dudes have forreal anger/violence issues. Channeling it through football can be one thing that saves them from acting like this more often.

I file it under 'fucking up future money' cuz dudes have to do a better job with their rough edges/issues than this. And good lawd, having that type of altercation in public too? C'mon now.

I'm not saying 'this sweet queen didn't deserve it'. I'm saying 'dudes can't get a point where they let themselves act on an impulse like this'. I'm old..there's been a gang of times where I may have actually wanted to do something like this to someone, but I didn't because something in my brain said 'naw naw naw...don't do it..think of the bad things that can come from this. They dramatically outweigh whatever you think you're going to like about hitting this person' before it got to that point.

  

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11. "watching this after reading the transcript of the Minn incident"
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make me really angry and sad to have a daughter in this world

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12. "It was the night he turned 18. "
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He has issues and the incident wasn't good, but at that age, he clearly didn't have the emotional maturity to handle that sort of confrontation in the body he had.

As for the video, the victim didn't want it released and fought to keep it sealed. The thought as to why is because her striking him first some how will harm her civil suit against Mixon. No excuses, but it's not the mass murder you are making it out to be.

Given his age, I think it may and should kill the "early enrollment" bullshit that teams use to cushion softer academic loads. He wasn't emotionally old enough to be on a college campus.

  

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15. "smh. hyperbole much?"
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>but it's not the mass murder you are making
>it out to be.

I know, I should be posting about real issues like Aleppo...

>He has issues and the incident wasn't good, but at that age,
>he clearly didn't have the emotional maturity to handle that
>sort of confrontation in the body he had.

didn't then and doesn't now. see the blowup over the parking ticket at age 20.

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24. "The parking ticket also wasn't what you are hyping it to be"
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He tore the ticket in half and tossed it at the parking attendant, one piece hit them in the face. He then put his car in drive and it rolled forward.

  

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25. "enough to get suspended. great judgment again."
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26. "Agreed. But what's the solution? "
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The industry of high school football and college recruiting hype created this kid that even his high school coach didn't really "know" much about, character or personality-wise. The only thing people knew about him is he's a great athlete and he tweeted about nothing but sports, nonstop. 50 other schools wanted him and would have discovered this about him, likely. But OU "won". So what now? What in the future?

  

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27. "we have to stop this cycle of non-accountability."
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which means not having a head coach who bristles and attacks anyone who brings up the case. it means not having Orange Bowl officials escort reporters out of press conferences who ask Mixon about the incident.

I'm mostly for rehab. but it's hard to see signs of that here. the way this was seemingly dealt with by OU was to let his lawyers control everything and have him sit out a year on scholarship. a punishment that conveniently "hid" him from the public.

if you're a head coach or school official and truly want to put these kids on a different path, then you better grant the same leniency to the 85th player on scholarship as the starting five-star running back. and we all know that doesn't happen.

there's also a point where maybe a kid continues to be a fucking asshole. and should continue his personal development outside his current program, regardless of how talented he may be. but there's different rules for different players, and that's how this circle goes unbroken from high school to college to the NFL.

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23. "not gonna kill it because mixon is a fucking asshole"
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>
>Given his age, I think it may and should kill the "early
>enrollment" bullshit that teams use to cushion softer academic
>loads. He wasn't emotionally old enough to be on a college
>campus.

and i don't think an extra 4-5 months in HS was going to change his course of action in that situation.

  

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30. "fuck him then"
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if it's a behavioral pattern or if he instigated the situation with the woman. If the incident started with what we saw, ie he was on the receiving end of some chick having a tirade and pushing him, I would have no problem with a physical response. Someone says something that pisses you off, you don't ever HAVE to follow them to keep the problem going, take some breaths and walk away.

  

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14. "Dude fucked up, but you also can't dismiss the girls role "
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I'm fine w Mixon being punished. He fucked all the way up. He had plenty of chances to walk away. I also think there has to be some kind of accountability for a girl who may have been throwing around racist insults then pushes and strikes a guy in the face. If you wanna play by the letter of the law she instigated the shit with criminal behavior.

It's confusing to me how we can't really acknowledge the fuckedupedness on both sides here.

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31. "Nobody cares about reasons in the court of public opinion "
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I'm "grown" and if the same thing happened to me right now today, even if not found guilty I still wouldn't catch a break. It's no different for these young folks, especially black ones.

So instead of that "well she had it coming by starting it" talk it'd be nice for them to hear "it doesn't matter what she does, the consequences are going to be significantly worse for you." Because this isn't an idealized world of fairness or right or wrong. The people, the system, and penalties all have biases that heavily skew against people that look like Joe Mixon. And Joe Mixon the asshole football player needs to learn that before he becomes Joe Mixon behind bars for some little shit that white boys wouldn't get bagged on.

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32. "you're definitely not wrong. I just wish we admitted she was criminal to..."
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34. "I agree..."
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Without knowing exactly what happened outside, the girl initiated the physical altercation inside the restaurant. I know she didn't do any significant damage, I know he should have walked away instead of hitting her, etc. That doesn't change that she initiated it.

Both should have been punished but of course Mixon deserved a much harsher punishment.
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5. "the only good thing for oklahoma is that it shows"
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(iirc)

what they've said happened.

that she struck him first, it looks like twice.

he did hit her hard as hell though

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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8. "alright who's ready for some bowl games?!?!?!?!??!"
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wake forest, minnesota and joe mixon...been a great few days of PR for cfb.

  

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17. "right? can we get a good story at some point, sheesh."
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that video was horrible. made me wish there was a big dude in his mid 20s inside that restaurant that would've checked the shit outta that teenage asshole.

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9. "GOTDAYUM!!! he overreacted, but he ain't got emotional tools"
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10. "jesus."
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13. "Mixon asked his attorney to release it"
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The entire reason the tape got out finally is due to the civil suit. The victim/plaintiff wanted the video suppressed. Not victim blaming, but you don't punch a growling tiger a few times and then get sympathy when it mauls you. He's got issues and he overreacted, but he was less than 24 hours from formerly being, legally, a child. As such, a child shouldn't be out that late in a college town.

  

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16. "right, it didnt come out after two years by accident"
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and the victim didn't want it releaed.

that said, i am not going to make excuses for him. he was dead ass wrong. when i was 18 i knew that a woman against a man was not a fair fight, that was restraint was the only option and just generally speaking would not have done what he did. most of the guys i played football with were the same way, though i do know there were a handful that didn't know better or didn't care, unfortunately. letting them slide is not the way to correct that.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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18. "it's been in court for two years because of the media"
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was fighting the city and police department over it's release. the state supreme court ruled in the media's favor this month.

and yes, the plaintiff has asked for the judge to suppress the video. but it hasn't been in a safe for two years because of her.

Mixon's attorneys are releasing it now to get ahead of it. they know it will become public record soon, so better now than right before the Sugar Bowl or during the draft process (if he declares).

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19. "...and is getting far more attention than Minnesota report/situation"
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20. "college sports would be cancelled if they had video of that shit"
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21. "it's visceral. "
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same reason people like Peter King are calling Tyreek Hill an "electric draft day steal" (hey, wonder why he lasted so late...?) but also think Ray Rice should be banished for life.

hell, the details of Mixon's case have been public record for two years. it really takes seeing it to believe it.

not to say it's more or less important than the Minnesota boycott. unfortunately college football has a lot of negative material to pull from in any given week.

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22. "oklahoma vs minnesota. only one program actually matters."
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28. "they both seem like terrible people"
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is this kid gonna get drafted? there was this component in the ray rice case of him being washed up anyway. will mixon get a shot because hes young?

  

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29. "1st round talent, undraftable character "
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33. "LOL at people in here with the she started it argument"
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If you can't handle a shove and a light half slap (Let's stop using words like she criminially assualted, or struck him since she barely even got the slap off) from someone 1/10 your size and strength then go stay inside.

Ya'll go around cold cocking every woman who pushes you and doesn't hurt you while doing it?

Tit for Tat?
She started it?
She should be charged?

You whiny ass #Notallmen defending frail sensitivity men just can't catch a break dummies, need to ask yourself why you think getting pushed and barely touched by an open palm is means to knock somebody the fuck out in general, let alone when you're a strong athlete and she is a woman who clearly caused no physical harm to you.

If he thought they were equal actions he wouldn't have booked it so quick.

  

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35. "people are human bro.."
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in that moment if emotions beat reason you get the unfortunate result that we witnessed. No one is ok with what he did but I understand that people can have an organic spontaneous reaction to what she did. Doesn't mean he reacted properly or that he shouldn't be punished for it. It's just best if all people keep their hands to themselves.


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42. "This isn't a question of wrongness. It's a question of Ray Rice-ness. "
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Obviously he's a hoe ass nigga.

The question is he's a monster, or just a hoe ass nigga.

A hoe nigga should be able to play football, a monster should not.

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36. "No program can afford to kick out Dede & Joe Mixon,"
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that just ain't happening. That is literally your 2 best players on the team (possibly conference).

Now if they were a few years apart yes, but both at the same time is some late 90's Bowden shit.

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37. "Some of y'all could rationalize the Holocaust"
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"Oh but he didn't have the tools!"

The fuck kind of tools should he have had? Like a circular saw would've prevented the situation.

  

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39. "I'm sure you were the polished & perfected adult now at 18 & a day, too."
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People do dumb shit. Kids do dumber shit.

  

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38. "People lumping this in with domestic violence are idiots"
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A kid who committed a misdemeanor got suspended for a year. Situation handled.

Oh but there's video that offends my sensibilities! Fire everyone!

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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41. "The video also shows exactly what was reported to have happened"
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In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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46. "He's black and she's white. "
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That's the only thing that matters here.

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40. "Bob Stoops took a L up there, today"
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43. "police interview from 2014:"
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Mixon told Detective Freudiger that Molitor intentionally blew cigarette smoke in his face and teammate Mark Andrews' face outside the sandwich shop. Mixon said Molitor and Andrews exchanged words and "After that, the girl, I guess she got scared or what, she went up inside, and she went to talk to the person that I came there with (teammate David Smith), and I guess she knew him or whatever.

"So when she went inside, she was talking about how we were trying to jump her. So that's when the dude (Molitor's friend) went inside, and I followed the dude. That's when I interrupted her, and I was talking to Dave (Smith), talking about how nobody was trying to jump her, we had no problem with her, she was just being disrespectful, you know...smoking in my face and acting crazy."

"The gay dude...he called me something. He was like, 'nigger.' So then I was like, 'you got me messed up.' And then I called him a faggot. And after that, the girl, she dropped her purse, that's when she came in my face, pushed me, and then my glasses came off, and then, like, I had, like, jumped at her, like, to watch out. And then she came in my face. I put my head down. And she swung on me."

"I pretty much had a point in the store where we got into it, and I was like, you know, she being disrespectful, I felt like I should have left it alone," Mixon said. "But then once the dude called me a nigger, I mean, it pretty much got my, you know, thoughts off of the whole situation. That's when it just escalated."

According to The Oklahoman, Mixon said the racial slur was not said to him, but about him. A police interviewer called that strange, since Smith -- Mixon's teammate, friend and an African-American -- was sitting at the table.

"I mean, even though she pushed me, I didn't think she was going to hit me," Mixon said. "I was so shocked, because she hit me so hard, it felt like really like a dude hit me. And then, like, my face just started ringing. And after that, like, it was just like a reaction."

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44. "She called him a nigga AND threw hands first....."
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I am in no way condoning violence against women of any kind but... the woman in the video dehumanized a student athlete then assaulted him. The young man reacted off instinct, very bad instinct mind you, and responded the best way he felt to rid himself of the situation. It's unfortunate that this happened but don't dehumanize someone then assault them then expect EVERYONE to walk away because patriarchy.

  

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45. "Held a 25 minute Q&A presser that no national news attended"
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http://m.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/ousportsextra/everything-joe-mixon-said-at-friday-s-press-conference/article_e3e8ea73-1016-5e6d-a166-f2b5843420a2.html

Updated: Friday December 23, 2016 12:01 pm
Opening statement:

"I’m here for a situation that occurred about 2 1/2 years ago. Basically, I’m just here to basically apologize to Ms Molitor. Like I said, I’m here to apologize to Ms. Molitor, I’m here to apologize to Coach Stoops, I apologize to President Boren, the AD, my teammates, most of all, my family. I let a lot of people down. I apologize to my mother.

"My mother, growing up … Growing up, my mother, she used to work hard. Single parent. Tow brothers, three sisters, 16 nieces and nephews. They all look up to me. Like I said, it’s never, never, never OK. Never, never OK to retaliate and hit a woman the way I did. And like I said, I’m here to apologize to everybody who was affected by. My mother, like I said, she worked hard, and I disappointed her, and you know, she’s my queen, and I apologize to you, mom. You mean everything to me. Family … But at this point, I’m willing to take anybody’s questions, for whoever has a question, I’m here to answer it right now."

On his decision not to transfer from OU:

"Honestly, Coach Stoops, our academic program, our coaches, our players, President Boren, they all forgave me, what I did. Some things came with it. I had some things I had to do, fulfill a couple requirements to get back, to have a second chance to get on the team. I had 100 hours of community service, I had counseling, still to this day seek it for my own benefit. Whatever I’m trying to do, they gave me an opportunity and a second chance. I’m willing to do anything I could to make myself better, as a person and player on the field."

On if he wanted to apologize earlier:

"I had a couple other, legal team, to say best to keep quiet. … It’s always best. I didn’t want to wait too long, but at the same time, I was advised to keep my mouth closed, and now I’m here to this day, still trying to apologize."

On talks with his mother:

"Honestly, I feel like that’s kind of personal for my mother’s sake. But I’m here to talk about that night. Like I said, Ms. Molitor, I apologize. If I have any chance, I ask for your forgiveness. And that’s the next question."

On the idea Molitor should apologize to him:

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"Like I said, I’m here to do what’s best for me. I felt like I had to get that off of my chest for the last 2.5 years, and that’s what I’m doing now."

On if Mixon wished the video would have come out sooner:

"Yes, I definitely wish it would have came out sooner, for the best of everybody, but at the same time, I can’t do nothing but thank Coach Stoops for the second chance he gave me. Can’t do nothing but thank President Boren and my teammates for sticking by me, doing whatever they could."

On the difficulties of his suspension:

"It was very difficult. It was tough. Honestly, it haunted me. Still haunts me to this day. I dream about it. If I could go back, I’d do whatever I could to change the outcome of that situation. Definitely would have walked or ran away and went about the situation differently. I wouldn’t have been in that situation. And now I wouldn’t be in that situation, and that’s pretty much about it."

On what he wants fans to know about how he has changed:

"At the time, like you guys know, I was 17, 18 years old. I was young. Right now, I’m 20 years old. I’ve grown up a lot over these past 2 ½, three years that I’ve been at OU. Like I said, I can’t do nothing but thank Coach Stoops for giving me a second chance and having me prove to everyone that I deserve it."

On how teammates helped him:

"Man, my teammates, my teammates, they know how much they mean to me. All the leaders, people that’s not leaders, they mean so much to me. They did everything they could, everything I ever asked for. They basically guided me, led me in the right direction, and did whatever I could, basically, to lead the way I do, on and off the field, and I try to do whatever I can just to be a leader. And that’s what our coaches teach, on and off the field, be a leader. That’s what I’m willing to do. I’ve been doing it for the past two years ever since the incident. I’m still looking to do it even more."

On what he thought when he first saw the video:

"Like I said, we’re here to talk about that night, and I apologize to Ms. Molitor again, and I apologize, I regret what happened, and I’m sorry. I don’t know how else to put it."

On claims Molitor started the incident by blowing smoke in Mixon’s face:

"Honestly, it really don’t matter what she did that night. It’s all on me, the reason why I’m in this position right now, and I take full responsibility on what happened that night. It’s never OK to hit a woman. Never, and I will preach that to anybody. It’s never OK, and hopefully people around the world learn form my mistake, and I’m willing to teach."

On community service and counseling:

"I’m still seeking out counseling. I’ve done a well job, at least what they tell me. I appreciate them working with me. We worked a lot, and we done did everything we had to do to come this far, and I feel like from what they say, I’ve done a good job from it."

On if staying at OU helped him grow:

"Honestly, it helped me grown a lot, mentally, physically and emotionally. I learned a lot about myself over these last 2 ½ years. When times get tough, never give up on yourself. Lean on the people that’s there for you. I’m honestly grateful for my second chance. I never gave up, and just keep going from there."

On how this affect Mixon’s perception among NFL teams:

"Honestly, I’m not worried about the NFL. I’m totally committed to the team. I haven’t made a decision. I’m focused on January 2, on beating Auburn."

On incident with an OU parking attendant that led to a one-game suspension:

"First off, I made a mistake. Shouldn’t have ripped the ticket and threw it on the ground. That’s on me, and I apologize to the woman that I affected right there, and that’s it."

On if he has ever hit a woman at another time:

"No ma’am."

On how release of the video affected him:

"It’s affected me a lot. Like I said, mentally and emotionally, I can’t do nothing but thank my teammates for lifting up my spirits, just wanting me to come out and go hard for them every day. And I fell like that’s honestly how I give back to them I can only led by example on and off the field, by words, by my actions, and honestly, I’m willing to do anything for my teammates."

On response around campus:

"Honestly, I really don’t know because I really haven’t been paying attention to it. But, at the same time, just lean on the people that’s always been there for me, and that’s pretty much about it."

On what he would tell himself 2 ½ years ago:

"Honestly, I wouldn’t have been in that situation. Like I said, I regret it. Every day I got to live with it, got to sleep with it. Goes on and on. It haunts me to this day. If I could take it all back, I would. There’s no way, in that environment, period, or with a person period, a male or a female, you should get that aggressive. There’s no way you should hit a female period. Even a male. But at the end of the day, there’s no way you should hit a female, period. And I reacted wrong, and like I said, I apologize to Ms Molitor and the people it affected. The fans, her family. My family. And that’s it."

On if he was intoxicated the night of the punch:

"Sir, I don’t drink, I don’t smoke. You can ask anybody. Never did it before."

On criticisms of OU tolerating violence against women:

"Honestly, I can only speak for myself. Never got in trouble like that ever before in my life. I own up to it. There’s no way I should have ever put myself in that situation. There’s no way I should have ever retaliated like that. And basically, I’m grateful I got another opportunity to prove myself, the person I am, and just gotta get people to know me."

On if he would speak to advocacy groups in the future:

"Oh yeah, I’m definitely willing to do that. I think I got an opportunity to do that, and I’m going to seize the moment, do whatever I can to be that person, the bigger person and the man that I should be, just be that influence for young kids that’s lost out there. And really, from certain situations I was in, hopefully I can teach them the next time how to react a certain type of way. And basically like I said, teach them. But I’ll definitely be willing to talk to those kinds of groups."

More on community service:

"Just going around schools, going around little league teams, football basketball, I had some youth teams back home that I spoke to a lot. The kids just them by watching me growing up, I was so much of a role model to the, and they all looked up to me. I’m sure there was other kids around the world that looked up to me. I made a bad choice that night, and like I said, I apologize to everyone that affected. All I ask for the young kids is a second chance, to prove myself and do whatever I can to make things right."

On seeing the video again after being away from the situation:

"Like I said, I couldn’t do nothing but apologize to Ms. Molitor for my actions. I take full responsibility for it. I can’t express enough how sorry I am. I’m hoping one day I could apologize to her face to face and ask her for (her) forgiveness."

On idea incident with parking ticket shows continued anger issues:

"Like I said, it was just a frustration deal, first ticket you ever got, you know what I’m saying. I don’t know how people react, but at the end of the day, I should have just took the ticket, smiled and said thank you, and walked away."

On if he has had specific talks about becoming a spokesman against violence:

"Yes, I definitely asked around. We got things set up for me to do. And when the time is right, we’re going to go ahead, sit down, get things figured out, and I’m definitely gonna take the time throughout the day to do what I got to do to make people hear me."

On Brenda Tracy’s talk at OU:

"Oh man, Brenda, she was awesome. She was awesome. She touched a lot of people on our team. It was a sad story that she went through, and I feel for her. But I can’t do nothing but thank her for her willingness to speak to us and the team and have basically whereabouts on problems around the world, because it ain’t just on campuses. It’s the world. But Brenda, she did a wonderful job, and I applaud her for that. Thank you."

On if he is bothered by the fact he will always be known for the video:

"At the end of the day, I’m just here to ask people for me to get a second chance. Like I said, I apologize again to Ms. Molitor, her family, the people I affected, the fans around the football world. I ask for your forgiveness, and hopefully I can get a second chance for you guys."

On if he wanted to apologize before:

"Yes, like I said, I actually wanted to do that but with the things going on, the cases, it just wasn’t the right time."

On if there is a timeline for an NFL decision:

"I mean, like I said, I’m really not focused on the NFL right now. I’ve got things I’ve got to do here at Oklahoma. I’ve got the team. We’ve got to prepare and get ready for this game. That’s pretty much about it."

On if what he thought of Bob Stoops’ saying Mixon’s would have been dismissed had the punch happened today instead of 2 ½ years ago:

"Honestly, I didn’t see or hear coach Stoops’ press conference. Like I said, (I’m grateful) for the second chance he gave me the first time. You know, I appreciate it and I’m doing everything I can to be a better person, a better teammate and a better citizen around campus and around the world."

On if he expected national outcry:

"Honestly, I’d say yes. And I understand why. I can only apologize to the people that it affected and I’m sorry for what happened that night. Like I said, if I could do it all over again, I would. I wouldn’t be there. I’d have left. And like I said, to Ms. Molitor, I apologize and I’m asking for your forgiveness."

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"Honestly, I’m not that type of person to just go out all the time. When people see me, they show love and I show love right back. But that’s just me. I don’t know about other people. But when people go out and make their way, they greet me and tell me how well I’m always, you know, doing the right things, how you doing, basically, you know, having that conversation. I’ve always been a people person, you know, to have a conversation with them. That’s pretty much how I go about things."

On meeting with the media last year at the Orange Bowl:

"Honestly, that sucked, um, knowing that I really couldn’t say too many things at the Orange Bowl. At the end of the day, I was young. Like I said, I still was advised to keep my mouth closed. But at the end of the day, right now, I’m here, and like I said, I apologize to Ms. Molitor."

On talks with attorneys about apologizing:

"I actually took the initiative to go to them and tell them, like, you know, there’s got to be a day where I make my apology. It’s not that I was hiding nothing. I’d been wanting to say something, but at the end of the day, I was just doing what I was asked."

When did those talks happen?

"It’s been awhile. Ever since pretty much being back in football, really."

On anger management as part of counseling:

"It’s like a mix-up, really."

On if he deserved a second chance at OU:

"Like I said, I mean, for coach Stoops, I’m grateful I got a second chance from him, my teammates, the university, the people that, you know, (are) here for me, you know, I appreciate, you know, them for giving me a second chance, and, you know, I’m just here to hope I can get a second chance from everybody else."

On what he would say to Amelia Molitor:

"Honestly, I’d really say that I really apologize. I can’t express enough how sorry I am. I really am sorry. I apologize. I mean, like I said, I can’t express enough how sorry I am, and, you know, for just everybody to forgive me."

On if he ever second-guessed staying at OU:

"Um, honestly, I did. But at the end of the day, I wasn’t gonna run from what happened. I thought it was only right to stick by coach Stoops because when he came to my parents house, he talked to me, he was gonna have me in his corner. He was going to protect me like I’m one of his. He did that to everybody. You make a commitment, you stick with it. Like I said, I’m grateful for the second chance coach Stoops gave me, and I’m trying to do everything I can to be the best person I am and the best teammate I am."

  

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51. "Welp. Works for me."
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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47. "how was she not charged with anything, tho?"
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48. "College town in Oklahoma and her face was exploded. "
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49. "she should have been.."
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he obviously deserved a more harsh penalty for the level of his reaction but she initiated a physical altercation. You just can't do that...
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50. "Idk maybe because ol dude Rearranged her face? "
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Can't imagine any PD in America charging a woman after that.

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52. "that's kind of a problem though"
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one-sided assault laws are a recipe for disaster.
In a situation like this, you should charge both or charge none.

  

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