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"D Rose shamefully trolls for sex videos; Kang exemplifies familial honor"
Wed Aug-31-16 12:47 PM by Vex_id

          

D. "Carlos Danger" Rose out here off that Tony Weiner:

https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL/status/770711022109949952/photo/1

Boy I remember when everyone on this board lauded Rose as the "quiet, throwback hard-nosed 90's" type who was going to be the next NBA 'savior', failing to realize that Walking Mt. Rushmore was right there anomalously dominating on the court, and exemplifying remarkable manhood off the court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey6cpTY10UU

Have you apologized to Lebron James yet?

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damn, that was a clean ass block
Aug 31st 2016
1
"Why you mad cuz your man is a freak bamma?" (c) Basa
Aug 31st 2016
2
lol
Aug 31st 2016
4
lmao.
Aug 31st 2016
17
I never did the comparison, but I did love the D. Rose character
Aug 31st 2016
3
This is such a weird perspective to take on the situation
Aug 31st 2016
5
This is OKP. n/m
Aug 31st 2016
7
was you able to log off?
Aug 31st 2016
18
i read this in the voice of ali g for some reason.
Sep 01st 2016
27
      lol.
Sep 01st 2016
29
      LOL
Sep 01st 2016
30
      lolol
Sep 01st 2016
34
That's what weirdos do.
Sep 12th 2016
64
not a Wiener situation, this is a chick he was actually fucking.
Aug 31st 2016
6
...with his homies
Aug 31st 2016
8
      He had a relationship with her prior to that. Actually it's probably...
Aug 31st 2016
10
           Well yeah lol
Aug 31st 2016
12
           So it's actually a lot worse than Weiner?
Aug 31st 2016
13
           Parker was found innocent and I suspect Rose will be too.
Sep 01st 2016
20
                Running a Train vs Sending a Dick Pic...I guess it depends..
Sep 01st 2016
26
                     neither one of those things is necessarily a crime.
Sep 01st 2016
32
                          Who's talking about crime? I'm talking about bad looks.
Sep 01st 2016
35
           Lol, that's not a good thing.
Aug 31st 2016
14
                Right?
Sep 01st 2016
36
lulz at those texts.
Aug 31st 2016
9
If you go through most 25y/o dudes phones you'd probably find...
Aug 31st 2016
11
      You tryin get this pipe? (c) PIPE
Aug 31st 2016
15
      shit, i got worse stuff right today...
Aug 31st 2016
16
           right, and we're talking a 25y/o with a 8-9 figure contract? They ain't....
Sep 01st 2016
21
                you getting in the truck? (c) starbury
Sep 01st 2016
22
                Basically. n/m
Sep 01st 2016
25
                these texts are mostly harmless, of course
Sep 01st 2016
23
                     RE: these texts are mostly harmless, of course
Sep 01st 2016
24
Grown ass men, worried bout another man's sex life.
Aug 31st 2016
19
if it involves rape, absolutely.
Sep 05th 2016
62
im always surprised when an nba starter gotta work to get pussy.
Sep 01st 2016
28
It's oddly comforting and depressing at the same time.
Sep 01st 2016
31
they don't, sounds like he was basically done with her and set her out.....
Sep 01st 2016
33
The nigga an MVP and all-star.
Sep 01st 2016
38
The Disturbing Details of the D. Rose Rape Case (via ThinkProgress)
Sep 01st 2016
37
Christ, everything they say is revolting.
Sep 01st 2016
39
How can you fight so hard to make sure she doesn't get anonymity?
Sep 01st 2016
40
I get why they are trying to do it (legal strategy) - but it's not worki...
Sep 02nd 2016
49
Right, I can't believe a real lawyer argued this
Sep 02nd 2016
52
Maybe bc she's LYING
Oct 21st 2016
249
whew forman/paxson really dodged this bullet.
Sep 01st 2016
42
she woke up "filled dressed"? So they raped her and put her clothes...
Sep 02nd 2016
45
Ugh.....yeah he's scum.
Sep 02nd 2016
46
wowww. just getting around to reading this. all i've seen is headlines a...
Oct 04th 2016
93
      this is a civil case.
Oct 06th 2016
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      Admittedly - I didn't understand all of the details when the story broke
Oct 06th 2016
99
           if he wins in a civil trial and is not for liable for anything???
Oct 06th 2016
100
           Have you apologized to Derrick Rose yet?
Oct 19th 2016
219
Real shit? Fuck this dude.
Sep 01st 2016
41
Derrick Rose is a living breathing piece of shit BAMMA
Sep 01st 2016
43
Absolutely.
Sep 01st 2016
44
      Did you say this about Kobe?
Oct 19th 2016
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           No.
Oct 19th 2016
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                Lol if you followed the details of this case
Oct 19th 2016
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                Admittedly I kinda stopped after awhile.
Oct 19th 2016
218
                     But that's the problem. You cant hear one side of the case
Oct 19th 2016
221
                Funny how that works.
Oct 20th 2016
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                     I followed that case a lot more closely, because I'm a Laker fan.
Oct 20th 2016
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                          ok, cool.
Oct 20th 2016
243
Yeah I agree. Fuck him.
Sep 02nd 2016
47
everything sounds horrible, like really horrible...but i'll wait to rese...
Sep 02nd 2016
48
Right, because a lot of the shit I read in that link in post #37 doesn't...
Sep 02nd 2016
50
      wait you're agreeing with me...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc...
Sep 02nd 2016
51
I'm so glad he tore all those ACL's now
Sep 02nd 2016
53
I think quietly folding it up and placing it in the trash is the move
Sep 02nd 2016
55
everything I read sounds like rape to me....
Sep 02nd 2016
54
which part specifically?
Sep 03rd 2016
58
Joe Paterno Rule in effect
Sep 02nd 2016
56
His testimony is enough for me.
Sep 02nd 2016
57
Have you seen his full testimony yet?
Sep 03rd 2016
59
But we *do* know certain things about Paterno and Rose
Sep 03rd 2016
60
      right? It's not that complicated
Sep 12th 2016
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      no, the Paterno Rule is about character judgement
Sep 16th 2016
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           ah, gotcha.
Sep 16th 2016
77
He bisexual?
Sep 04th 2016
61
more trife life (c)Mobb Deep....
Sep 12th 2016
63
Wait, he said he doesn't know what "consent" means?
Sep 16th 2016
66
No her lawyers said that.
Sep 16th 2016
67
      So they're completely fabricating a direct quote from a deposition?
Sep 16th 2016
68
           wouldn't be the first time an atty ddid that
Sep 16th 2016
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                Nope
Sep 16th 2016
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                     Sure derrick rose is an idiot that can't define the word consent
Sep 16th 2016
72
                          Why is settling not a good look?
Sep 16th 2016
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                               my pov isn't that its a bad look for the plaintiff to settle
Sep 16th 2016
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                                    Pretty much what I said here
Oct 23rd 2016
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https://theringer.com/derrick-rose-rape-case-and-nba-fandom-bfd92e771d61...
Sep 16th 2016
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its def a weird dynamic...especially being that she's going after him
Sep 16th 2016
74
      nothing weird about this being a civil suit.
Sep 16th 2016
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           well for one, i'm not saying its weird that she's suing him.
Sep 16th 2016
79
Sigh. Finally got caught up on this and it's really bad
Sep 17th 2016
80
New Deposition Clouds Derrick Rose's Trial — And His Image
Sep 17th 2016
81
No More Parties in LA (c) DRose
Sep 18th 2016
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media blitz was a dumb move.
Sep 21st 2016
83
Anyone know if derrick is in LA or Houston?
Oct 04th 2016
84
ah, houston today LA tomorrow.
Oct 04th 2016
85
Drose looking like morgan freeman in a time to kill.
Oct 04th 2016
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did you mean to say Sam Jackson? because Morgan Freeman wasn't in that
Oct 04th 2016
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      goddddamit..hopee samueel l donn't lurk
Oct 04th 2016
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      he's gonna come in on you like this:
Oct 04th 2016
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           i don't even need to click...its the news anchor scene
Oct 04th 2016
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                haha, yup n/m
Oct 04th 2016
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      c'mon, they all look alike...
Oct 07th 2016
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remember when Bulls Fans got insulted when DRose was compared to AI?
Oct 04th 2016
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"Is she gonna cry the entire time?"
Oct 06th 2016
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wait dude said that...in front of the jury????
Oct 06th 2016
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A true jury of his peers lol
Oct 06th 2016
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RE: "Is she gonna cry the entire time?"
Oct 06th 2016
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#actually it wasnt even rose's lawyer that said that
Oct 06th 2016
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      Who was it?
Oct 06th 2016
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           lawyer for his codees
Oct 07th 2016
105
I blame Reggie Rose...:
Oct 07th 2016
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Judge seriously considering mistrial due to plaintiff shenanigans
Oct 11th 2016
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"why u have me bring a bitch and u ain't fina fuck her"
Oct 11th 2016
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2 sides to every story ya know?
Oct 11th 2016
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Yeah, I poked a lil fun at him but I still feel like it's a $$ issue
Oct 11th 2016
109
its disgusting.
Oct 11th 2016
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      It really is...and they'll drag his name through the mud
Oct 12th 2016
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           damn, great point.
Oct 12th 2016
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           to quote one of my all-time favorites: "DLTI"
Oct 12th 2016
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                yup...the media is whatever...they tryna get headlines
Oct 12th 2016
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           none of this mean she wasn't raped....
Oct 12th 2016
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                A) no one is arguing that she wasn't raped
Oct 12th 2016
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                I understand that, but here's the thing about the law
Oct 12th 2016
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                     i hear what you're saying
Oct 12th 2016
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                          Who is doing this...what things from her past?
Oct 12th 2016
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                          The defense lawyers. The strap on. The IG posts.
Oct 12th 2016
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                               wasn't the dildo from the night in question? As was the texts about
Oct 12th 2016
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                          You're technically right...but it's her word vs his
Oct 12th 2016
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Because I'm a total beta cuck, bro
Oct 12th 2016
113
Did D Rose hire Mike Tyson's defense team?
Oct 11th 2016
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What are you talking about?
Oct 12th 2016
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You legit didn't read a single thing about this case.
Oct 12th 2016
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      Read plenty but keep w the name calling. Do you.
Oct 12th 2016
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           That goes without saying
Oct 12th 2016
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                It's not just the accusation, it's their testimony
Oct 12th 2016
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                     lotta these in the nba
Oct 12th 2016
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                          That's why you settle. So none of this shit is public.
Oct 12th 2016
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                               everyone knows the details about kobe case so that's a terrible example
Oct 12th 2016
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                                    haha, i went back and deleted the Kobe example, cuz yeah. Too late!
Oct 12th 2016
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                                         haha got you...on the flip you can't really provide a good example
Oct 12th 2016
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Accuser texted rose 5x between 1:40am and 2:03 prior to incident
Oct 12th 2016
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and?
Oct 12th 2016
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      when doe's lawyers were on their media blitz, they forgot to mention
Oct 12th 2016
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Detective found dead
Oct 12th 2016
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Oh boy
Oct 12th 2016
126
yeah, this shit just got real ellroy.
Oct 12th 2016
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      man, that ain't got nothing to do with nothing.
Oct 12th 2016
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           yes
Oct 12th 2016
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smh
Oct 12th 2016
129
judge rules against mistrial but will allow defense to recall doe
Oct 12th 2016
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not a good look for the accuser and her attorneys
Oct 12th 2016
139
Rose not joining the team again til trial over
Oct 12th 2016
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damn, poo was watching fresh prince he wasn't interested in homegirl
Oct 13th 2016
147
Accusers ex friend says sex was consensual...suit is ploy for cash
Oct 17th 2016
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How come no one wants to talk about the facts of the case
Oct 18th 2016
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seems like the media (and this board) aren't all that interested anymore
Oct 18th 2016
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yup, i bet if he's found liable there will be a whole lot of interest ag...
Oct 19th 2016
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Where we at right now with the Facts?
Oct 18th 2016
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pretty much sums up the facts^^^
Oct 18th 2016
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I agree with this
Oct 18th 2016
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oh, he's running trains (on girls who like to have trains ran on them)
Oct 19th 2016
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***shrugs*** did I say Rose committed a crime?
Oct 19th 2016
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      If he didn't commit a crime, why the fuck do you care?
Oct 20th 2016
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You're too old to care about dicks that aren't yours.
Oct 19th 2016
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      You can't write this ^^^^ as you swing from my dick.
Oct 19th 2016
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           Seriously: why do you care how and who he fucks in his free time?
Oct 20th 2016
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                You really wanna act THIS stupid over this issue O.E.?
Oct 21st 2016
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                     he just mad a FREAK BAMMA can't help that Stop-Snitchin King win
Oct 21st 2016
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                          It has to be that. I'm like why you care, what I screw my face up at?
Oct 21st 2016
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Tabloid culture
Oct 18th 2016
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Parts of Depo from doe's former friend played in court
Oct 19th 2016
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So roommate testified against her, friend testified against her
Oct 19th 2016
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kee keeing about rape allegations without facts is definitely way
Oct 19th 2016
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      When people in your circle testify against you, it's lights out
Oct 19th 2016
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           good point.
Oct 19th 2016
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i don't know about ya'll but i stopped believing her when she was
Oct 19th 2016
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Derrick Rose rape case may boil down to definition of consent - CBS News
Oct 19th 2016
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Not Guilty.
Oct 19th 2016
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I'll forever be a fan of drose for taking this to trial
Oct 19th 2016
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there aren't many people that could give less shits abt what others thin...
Oct 19th 2016
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What about anything he said makes you a fan of his?
Oct 19th 2016
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      have you read his deposition in full?
Oct 19th 2016
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           *Shrug* if you realy want to stick up for the shit from
Oct 19th 2016
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                Again have you read his deposition in full?
Oct 19th 2016
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Don't forget, this same woman settled out of court with Sean Kingston ye...
Oct 19th 2016
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there was a rumor before the trial started
Oct 19th 2016
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If her identity was protected
Oct 19th 2016
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It's not the same girl but doe's identity been out there for
Oct 19th 2016
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That's not the same person.
Oct 19th 2016
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Guilty.. Not guilty I don't care. I read the depositions. Dude is a sic...
Oct 19th 2016
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What depositions have you read?
Oct 19th 2016
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      My bad... The court docs/testimonies or whatever
Oct 19th 2016
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           oh ok, cool..he a freak bamma. (c) ba
Oct 19th 2016
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Have you apologized to Derrick Rose yet?
Oct 19th 2016
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probably needs it own post. Lotta dudes need to ask for forgiveness.
Oct 19th 2016
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Anybody claiming they knew it was rape, is weird
Oct 19th 2016
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people read the lawsuit, snippets from a depo released by the accuser
Oct 19th 2016
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dudes up and vanished out this post like:
Oct 19th 2016
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RE: Have you apologized to Derrick Rose yet?
Oct 19th 2016
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just saw that...
Oct 19th 2016
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lol that's actually pretty common.
Oct 19th 2016
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It is?
Oct 19th 2016
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      jurors have the ability to talk to lawyers, defendants, victims, their f...
Oct 19th 2016
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"Best wishes, cept when the Knicks play Lakers, heh heh" - Judge
Oct 19th 2016
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https://twitter.com/joelrubin/status/788850013459795968
Oct 19th 2016
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female jurors prolly wanna know whats good.
Oct 19th 2016
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not a great look. but he aint really care about optics since day 1
Oct 19th 2016
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so you're still cool with impugning him as a rapist?
Oct 20th 2016
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      Joe Paterno rule. I don't know shit about shit, and neither do you
Oct 21st 2016
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           your stance is fine. But people called him a rapist and other disgusting...
Oct 21st 2016
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           exact:
Oct 22nd 2016
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           You used a rape case to promote a basketball agenda.
Oct 23rd 2016
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           If you don't know shit about shit whats the purpose of posting that pic?
Oct 23rd 2016
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A lot of these despicable dudes need to and I've lost some
Oct 19th 2016
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      Right plus they getting on rose and his legal team for slut shaming
Oct 19th 2016
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      as someone who worked for an accused rapist and saw the toll it took
Oct 19th 2016
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      Worst part about it is it makes it worse for future rape victims.
Oct 19th 2016
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           Thats true.
Oct 19th 2016
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      basket of deplorables
Oct 19th 2016
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      I shouldn't have called him a rapist.
Oct 19th 2016
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           So you are a sad, defamatory piece of shit?
Oct 20th 2016
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                This is what owning up to mistakes is.
Oct 20th 2016
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Rape culture wins again. American justice system looks like a joke, AGAI...
Oct 19th 2016
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She LIED, she's the one who is hurting victims
Oct 19th 2016
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i'm not making a judgement of guilt.
Oct 19th 2016
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      What if the reverse happened and rose was found liable
Oct 19th 2016
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           yes. judges/jurors shouldn't be doing shit.
Oct 19th 2016
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                Because it happens every day in many cases after trials
Oct 19th 2016
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                     i don't give a fuck my g.
Oct 19th 2016
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                          Maybe if that person followed the details of the case
Oct 19th 2016
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Did it fail when the jurors got erin andrews autograph?
Oct 19th 2016
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      keep doing 5-much.
Oct 19th 2016
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           Seems the other way around to me but whatevs
Oct 19th 2016
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So apparently "Jane Doe" goes by the real name Monica los Rios?
Oct 19th 2016
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Neat
Oct 20th 2016
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so Ab's post got deleted. if you want to admit you made a mistake
Oct 20th 2016
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They deleted my post?!?! lmao wow
Oct 20th 2016
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      yeah it was kindof weird.
Oct 20th 2016
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I'm tired of playing nice with you accusatory dickheads.
Oct 20th 2016
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Co-sign
Oct 20th 2016
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Promo had the nerve to make multiple posts about rape culture
Oct 20th 2016
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i haven't responded because this thread and the rhetoric around is ugly....
Oct 21st 2016
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      Things can be alot of things if you don't know the facts.
Oct 21st 2016
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           you and i are talking on two complete different planes.
Oct 21st 2016
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                he don't care. his freak ass PG free and he happy.
Oct 21st 2016
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                you are talking about future rape victims.
Oct 21st 2016
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You aren't wrong.
Oct 20th 2016
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To follow this up...
Oct 20th 2016
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Great post...appreciate this.
Oct 20th 2016
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My man *daps you up*
Oct 20th 2016
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^^^^A NEW HOPE
Oct 20th 2016
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Dope nm.
Oct 20th 2016
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*salute*
Oct 20th 2016
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Given the fact you and Orbit_Established
Oct 21st 2016
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      i personally never understood why its so hard for people to say i
Oct 21st 2016
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Truth. BUT..no similar intensity for Trumpaglia partying off a dead cop?
Oct 20th 2016
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      I WISH y'all bammas would TRY to get me to apologize
Oct 21st 2016
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           Lmao
Oct 21st 2016
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                I'm almost afraid to ask him
Oct 21st 2016
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                I imagine it's staring at your device and wanting to spit on it.
Oct 21st 2016
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                dogg, i ain't NEVER seen these dudes caring about facts this much
Oct 21st 2016
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                     The same dudes posting about agendas turned into Christopher Darden.
Oct 21st 2016
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                          not hooping lenny...SMH
Oct 21st 2016
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thinkprogress really helping to progress society with these thought piec...
Oct 20th 2016
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lol they didn't lose the case bc rose legal team outsmarted
Oct 20th 2016
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The concept of victim blaming has been contorted in to a meaningless
Oct 21st 2016
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He get some new forehead ink?
Oct 21st 2016
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Only one person manned up and said they made a mistake?
Oct 20th 2016
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Yeah, you're not going to get me to cape for Rose
Oct 21st 2016
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no one is asking anyone to cape for Rose. I'm not even sure what
Oct 21st 2016
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Those were his words
Oct 21st 2016
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      what were his words? The snippets from his depo about consent
Oct 21st 2016
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Yet you cape for a lying a** gold digger?
Oct 21st 2016
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You're right, WE MEN
Oct 21st 2016
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      they just had group sex with the girl
Oct 21st 2016
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      Sorry, AB's post set me straight and uncucked me
Oct 21st 2016
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           i don't even know what that means
Oct 21st 2016
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                You're right
Oct 21st 2016
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                     man, just cyse your team over the bum ass knicks. that'll fix this.
Oct 21st 2016
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      I guess you get a written contract for your encounters with women huh?
Oct 21st 2016
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Oh you're just a piece of shit.
Oct 21st 2016
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Who accused Rose of being a rapist in this post?
Oct 21st 2016
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      welcome back.
Oct 21st 2016
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      Lmao
Oct 21st 2016
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           lol. y'all are really special.
Oct 21st 2016
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                Why did you dissappear when the facts of the case came out?
Oct 21st 2016
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                LOL @ 'disappear"
Oct 21st 2016
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                     Are you saying the accusations you linked were hot takes?
Oct 21st 2016
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                     he a cultured, world-traveling, loyal subject to the one true king
Oct 21st 2016
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                          Your idol sexually harassed anucha 10 years ago and you still mad
Oct 21st 2016
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                          isiah be on NBA TV smiling, doing yoga and going home to Lynn
Oct 21st 2016
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                               But you still mad tho
Oct 21st 2016
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                          lolz
Oct 24th 2016
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                     ahh the old OKS 'I'm on vacation'
Oct 21st 2016
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                You used a rape case to promote a basketball agenda.
Oct 22nd 2016
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      a guy who manned up & admitted it was wrong to cast aspersions on Rose
Oct 21st 2016
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           Incorrect, per usual. Someone apologized for calling Rose a rapist
Oct 21st 2016
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                You said incorrect and then cosigned him
Oct 23rd 2016
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                He doesn't know the definition of incorrect.
Oct 23rd 2016
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                That's what I said. Do you have an understanding of the word incorrect?
Oct 23rd 2016
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agendas, man...so powerful.
Oct 21st 2016
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It's going to be a looooooooooooong season.
Oct 21st 2016
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      not for me, dogg. i'mma make it long for people who partied in 2015
Oct 21st 2016
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The Lingering Damage Of The Derrick Rose Trial
Oct 21st 2016
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this is interesting
Oct 21st 2016
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      Writers from that side of the argument need to start defining rape.
Oct 24th 2016
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           I'm assuming she means where someone is incapacitated, doesn't
Oct 24th 2016
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           what argument?
Nov 01st 2018
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Just so we don' t have to re-hash
Nov 01st 2018
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so why are you re-hashing it, then?
Nov 01st 2018
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      Because it's a point of reference for post like these:
Nov 02nd 2018
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Dstl1
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1. "damn, that was a clean ass block"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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TheRealBillyOcean
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2. ""Why you mad cuz your man is a freak bamma?" (c) Basa"
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Every time I see Rose now, I think of that quote from one of our posts. And I laugh...laugh...and keep laughing.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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4. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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dula dibiasi
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17. "lmao."
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yeah, that's good.

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3. "I never did the comparison, but I did love the D. Rose character"
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I never used my fandom for D-Rose as a knock on Bron or anyone else, but I did like the way Rose went about his business publicly.

But yeah, my daughter was rocking a pair of D. Rose sneaks for basketball and I made her throw them out and bought her some new kicks.

At best he's a real grimey dude.

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5. "This is such a weird perspective to take on the situation"
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7. "This is OKP. n/m"
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18. "was you able to log off?"
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27. "i read this in the voice of ali g for some reason."
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29. "lol."
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30. "LOL "
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34. "lolol"
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64. "That's what weirdos do."
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6. "not a Wiener situation, this is a chick he was actually fucking."
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8. "...with his homies"
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Forgot that part

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10. "He had a relationship with her prior to that. Actually it's probably..."
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closer to Nate Parker than Wiener.

  

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12. "Well yeah lol"
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13. "So it's actually a lot worse than Weiner? "
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20. "Parker was found innocent and I suspect Rose will be too."
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26. "Running a Train vs Sending a Dick Pic...I guess it depends.."
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on personal preferences as to which one is worse or if any is bad at all.

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32. "neither one of those things is necessarily a crime."
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35. "Who's talking about crime? I'm talking about bad looks."
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Vex is talking about bad looks.

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14. "Lol, that's not a good thing."
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36. "Right?"
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9. "lulz at those texts."
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jeez. what a mess.

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11. "If you go through most 25y/o dudes phones you'd probably find..."
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similar stuff, I'm glad I was pretty much out of my 20's by the time texting and social media became a thing, lol

  

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15. "You tryin get this pipe? (c) PIPE"
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16. "shit, i got worse stuff right today..."
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just glad it ain't public record, lolz.

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21. "right, and we're talking a 25y/o with a 8-9 figure contract? They ain't...."
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playing NO games, they getting right to the point, lmao

  

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22. "you getting in the truck? (c) starbury"
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25. "Basically. n/m"
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23. "these texts are mostly harmless, of course"
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but the accusations are serious. These texts - as innocent as "typical 25 y.o." as they may be - do not paint D. Rose in the most favorable character lighting - particularly when contrasted against his previous well-manufactured public persona.

But you're a little to quick to jump up and defend alleged sex offenders bruh.

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24. "RE: these texts are mostly harmless, of course"
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>but the accusations are serious. These texts - as innocent
>as "typical 25 y.o." as they may be - do not paint D. Rose in
>the most favorable character lighting - particularly when
>contrasted against his previous well-manufactured public
>persona.
>
>But you're a little to quick to jump up and defend alleged sex
>offenders bruh.

Who else have I "defended" other that Nate Parker who was found innocent in a court of law?

  

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19. "Grown ass men, worried bout another man's sex life."
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62. "if it involves rape, absolutely."
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28. "im always surprised when an nba starter gotta work to get pussy."
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31. "It's oddly comforting and depressing at the same time."
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33. "they don't, sounds like he was basically done with her and set her out....."
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for his boys

  

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38. "The nigga an MVP and all-star."
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37. "The Disturbing Details of the D. Rose Rape Case (via ThinkProgress)"
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#Yikes

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39. "Christ, everything they say is revolting."
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40. "How can you fight so hard to make sure she doesn't get anonymity?"
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WTF is even your goal there? What possible good could that be? This is just threatening to humiliate her.

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49. "I get why they are trying to do it (legal strategy) - but it's not worki..."
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The judge is not warming up at all to their push to reveal her identity - and that's the correct judicial stance to take as it has long been established through case law that we protect the identity of a rape victim. Further, their argument is absurd on its face. They are claiming that because she posts photos on instagram in what are "sexually suggestive poses" - that she is a sexually charged public figure. Absolutely insane. Under that standard virtually every woman with an instagram account would be deemed a "public sexually charged figure." It's so absurd - and is desperate which makes their case look very flimsy.

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52. "Right, I can't believe a real lawyer argued this"
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>They are claiming that
>because she posts photos on instagram in what are "sexually
>suggestive poses" - that she is a sexually charged public
>figure. Absolutely insane. Under that standard virtually
>every woman with an instagram account would be deemed a
>"public sexually charged figure."

It's so jaw-droppingly terrible.

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249. "Maybe bc she's LYING"
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She shouldn't be able to hide behind the cloak of anonymity that's reserved for actual victims

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42. "whew forman/paxson really dodged this bullet."
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45. "she woke up "filled dressed"? So they raped her and put her clothes..."
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back on?

  

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46. "Ugh.....yeah he's scum. "
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I hope she stays anonymous too. Too many cases where names get out and the victim gets dragged through the mud. Looks like that is what's happening now. He repeatedly asked her to do some freaky things and she said no every time. I think its pretty consistent grounds for a rape charge. He's lucky its just a civil suit.

  

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93. "wowww. just getting around to reading this. all i've seen is headlines a..."
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post titles about the allegations. this is my first reading it.

that is... pretty terrible. horrible shit. and he dumb af, too.

also, i had caught, just from discussion of the case, that they were alleging she was some kinda freak / groupie jawn. but what kinda freak won't send you no videos AND turned you down on MULTIPLE occasions for the 3 and 4 way and all that.

even if she was down for whatever, it's pretty clear nowadays that you cannot be doing stuff with people that are passed out. that's pretty unambiguously rape.

but to frame her as being some kind of super freak and there's a track record and documented evidence of YOU being the freak and trying to get her to do shit she ain't want to do?

he cooked. unless one of his boys takes all the weight and plays the role of fall guy / weed carrier. even then, i imagine that being an accessory to rape is carrying some time with it, as it should. this is messed up.

and, even assuming there is some kind of shred of a way he is 'innocent', he is criminally dumb.


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95. "this is a civil case."
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99. "Admittedly - I didn't understand all of the details when the story broke"
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But after this article (and subsequent investigation) - it looks worse and worse for Rose. Even if he "wins" in court - the damage his reputation will (and likely should) take from this is irreversible.

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100. "if he wins in a civil trial and is not for liable for anything??? "
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he'll be fine assuming of course he can stay healthy and play good ball for a few good years. That's what his reputation will boil down to.

The non rape stuff is embarrassing for sure, but nobody will be thinking about him begging for sex videos in 6 months regardless.

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219. "Have you apologized to Derrick Rose yet?"
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41. "Real shit? Fuck this dude. "
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43. "Derrick Rose is a living breathing piece of shit BAMMA "
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I can't WAIT for Lebron and Kyrie to burn through these jokers in the first round. On cruise control no less.

I regret all the dumb lazy ass hater shit I ever said about Lebron. DUH. The decision was a bad idea. DUH. He's thrown a bunch of C-list teammates under the bus and tweeted several strangely cryptic messages undermining his franchise. In the end, who cares? Shit is harmless. He didn't RAPE anyone.

Throw the book at this fragile dork Derrick Rose.

(They won't.)

  

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44. "Absolutely. "
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I'll go on record saying I was wrong about Bron on a million things. The dancing was one.

Derrick Rose is a rapist piece of shit human. Fuck him.

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205. "Did you say this about Kobe?"
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>Derrick Rose is a rapist piece of shit human. Fuck him.

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206. "No."
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I could get into why with you, but does it honestly matter with this gotcha-ass reply?

TL;DR version is if you actually look into the Kobe case - the thing he seems to be guilty of more than anything is tossing a woman out like garbage after she said she didnt want to do what he wanted her to do. That's morally terrible, but it's not rape and it's not illegal. He's a bad husband, an asshole of a human, but I'm not at all convinced he's a rapist.

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212. "Lol if you followed the details of this case"
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That's pretty much what happened here. It's like you repeated the defense closing

Except that rose wasn't married, she did give into the 3 some and trains as a way of winning him back after being dumped over text, and she claimed he owed him money for a sex belt she lied about buying.
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>TL;DR version is if you actually look into the Kobe case - the
>thing he seems to be guilty of more than anything is tossing a
>woman out like garbage after she said she didnt want to do
>what he wanted her to do. That's morally terrible, but it's
>not rape and it's not illegal. He's a bad husband, an asshole
>of a human, but I'm not at all convinced he's a rapist.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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218. "Admittedly I kinda stopped after awhile."
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Kobe's a piece of shit human too, for what that's worth.

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221. "But that's the problem. You cant hear one side of the case"
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Form an opinion and then decide to stop following. I mean you can, but that's a pretty crappy thing to do.

The plaintiff played their case through the media, accused rose team of slut shaming by making legally accepted arguments in court and then folks decide to stop caring when the legal process takes it course?

Like I don't get it

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233. "Funny how that works."
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>TL;DR version is if you actually look into the Kobe case - the
>thing he seems to be guilty of more than anything is tossing a
>woman out like garbage after she said she didnt want to do
>what he wanted her to do. That's morally terrible, but it's
>not rape and it's not illegal. He's a bad husband, an asshole
>of a human, but I'm not at all convinced he's a rapist.

Kobe's case actually seems alot more troubling than that. and Kobe was arrested and charged with rape, had the case dismissed only after the accuser declined to testify in court, and reached a settlement with her on the civil case. Meanwhile Rose was not arrested, has had no criminal charges filed against him, and was cleared of all counts in the civil case as the jury found the plaintiff's account not credible. yet you were convinced Rose is a rapist but not at all convinced that Kobe is? weird.

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237. "I followed that case a lot more closely, because I'm a Laker fan."
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I didn't follow this one enough to make the judgements I did.

I stand by the fact that I don't think Kobe was guilty of much more than being an asshole, entitled human.

I don't know enough about this one and I owned up to that.

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243. "ok, cool."
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47. "Yeah I agree. Fuck him. "
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I apologize LeBron.

  

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48. "everything sounds horrible, like really horrible...but i'll wait to rese..."
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judgment till the trial bc all of this info is coming from the plaintiff's side. We haven't heard a defense yet. I would at least like to see Rose's full depo statement so we can see these snippets in context but i haven't been able to find it online.

But so far i agree with the general consensus (sans truth)...its despicable.

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50. "Right, because a lot of the shit I read in that link in post #37 doesn't..."
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add up.

  

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51. "wait you're agreeing with me...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc..."
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53. "I'm so glad he tore all those ACL's now"
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and anyone who owns or is actively wearing a D Rose jersey should go ahead and place it in the trash bin....or burn it and record it.

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55. "I think quietly folding it up and placing it in the trash is the move"
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maybe cut it up and use it as oil rags or something, but mostly just make it disappear and pretend that you never owned it.

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54. "everything I read sounds like rape to me...."
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this dude grimey as shit.

shut up already, damn

  

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58. "which part specifically?"
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56. "Joe Paterno Rule in effect"
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We don't know shit about shit, and if we cape up for either side, we could end up looking and feeling really fucking stupid.

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57. "His testimony is enough for me. "
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59. "Have you seen his full testimony yet?"
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60. "But we *do* know certain things about Paterno and Rose"
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>We don't know shit about shit, and if we cape up for either
>side, we could end up looking and feeling really fucking
>stupid.

There's no need to be neutral about Joe Paterno. We have clear-cut evidence that he enabled Sandusky's predatory actions for *decades*. Paterno could've addressed the issue and protected those kids from a known child molester/rapist - but he turned his head the other way and chose to ignore the magnitude of the situation. Sorry - you don't get the "oh we'll be quiet and neutral about this" treatment when you do that. I don't agree with denigrating him viciously now that he's in the grave - but he shouldn't be celebrated, and statues/memorials *certainly* shouldn't be erected in his honor.

As for Rose - the trial should play itself out, but there is significant fact-finding already done. He wanted to run a train on a woman who repeatedly told him she did not want to participate - and there are serious questions about whether she expressly consented to having sex with Rose and his crew the night of the incident. We don't know enough to throw him in jail and brand him a rapist - but we do know enough about his actions towards this woman to form an opinion as it pertains to character assessment.

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65. "right? It's not that complicated"
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I'm not sure on the legalities of either situation, but given the information at hand, I'm pretty sure Rose and Paterno are both gigantic shitbags who built their public persona on being kind of above it all. I'm comfortable coming to that conclusion.

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69. "no, the Paterno Rule is about character judgement"
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it uses Paterno to point out that we, as a group, probably know nothing about a public figure's true character at any time.

In short, so many of us, myself included, thought Paterno was a saint and made a lot of conclusions prior to Sandusky's crime's becoming public. As a result, a lot of us feel stupid and terrible now for making such a egregious mistake.

my way of saying, I don't know shit about this case. Maybe his testimony or some other smoking gun exists. I haven't paid enough attention to know whether that's true, so I'm not going to say a damn thing.

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77. "ah, gotcha. "
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and that's a good point.

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61. "He bisexual?"
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63. "more trife life (c)Mobb Deep...."
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http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/12/derrick-rose-nick-young-rape-case/

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66. "Wait, he said he doesn't know what "consent" means?"
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67. "No her lawyers said that."
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ya'll need to stop getting up in what these lawyers(either side) says to the media...the trial will be here soon enough. (unless rose gives in and settles)

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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68. "So they're completely fabricating a direct quote from a deposition?"
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Huge if true

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70. "wouldn't be the first time an atty ddid that"
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did you read the whole depo transcript?

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71. "Nope"
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Is there context that makes it sound less damning for him?

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72. "Sure derrick rose is an idiot that can't define the word consent"
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but testified that the woman willingly had sex with him and his friends.

All that proves is that Rose has a limited vocabulary, not that he's a rapist.

All these snippets of testimony that the plaintiff's attorney is handing the media while publicly admitting that they want to settle is not a good look for the plaintiff imo. They are clearly tryna shame ol boy into settling.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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75. "Why is settling not a good look?"
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78. "my pov isn't that its a bad look for the plaintiff to settle"
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its a bad look that they are so willing to play this through the media. They are trying to humiliate him into settling. IF rose has gone this far maintaining his innocence, seems like he's going to see it all the way through.

Plus, its a bit messed up that the plaintiff wants to keep anonymity while being willing to give interviews and embarrass Rose. If they really raped her tho, who cares, f em all.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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306. "Pretty much what I said here"
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>its a bad look that they are so willing to play this through the media. They are trying to humiliate him into settling. IF rose has gone this far maintaining his innocence, seems like he's going to see it all the way through.

She sued for 21 million was willing to settle for 1 milion tho. Rose wasn't having it

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73. "https://theringer.com/derrick-rose-rape-case-and-nba-fandom-bfd92e771d61..."
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https://theringer.com/derrick-rose-rape-case-and-nba-fandom-bfd92e771d61#.53ysmwrq6

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74. "its def a weird dynamic...especially being that she's going after him"
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civilly (apparently she filed a PR after the lawsuit).

If this was a criminal case it would be so much more cut and dry.

Rose had a chance to settle this quietly so if they did rape her, he's not only a scumbag rapist, but an idiot with terrible legal representation.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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76. "nothing weird about this being a civil suit. "
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It's a civil suit because that's how monetary damages can be awarded. These types of cases often have both a criminal and civil component - but criminal charges often get dropped in high-profile cases - but civil suits persist as the standards are different and the legal remedies are also different (punitive versus monetary).

For example - O.J. was acquitted in his criminal suit and evaded punitive damage/jail-time - but was later party to a civil suit where he the plaintiffs were awarded considerable monetary damages.

I fully expect this case to settle before it gets any uglier.

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79. "well for one, i'm not saying its weird that she's suing him."
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I'm saying as a fan, its a weird dynamic bc its a civil suit and not a criminal one. IF its a criminal one and he's found guilty, he likely won't be playing in the nba. IF he's convicted civilly, he'll still be playing. At the same time, the burden of proof for civil cases is less. Its a weird dynamic for the team and fans.

Secondly in reference to the suit, the reports are that she filed a lawsuit, then filed a PR after. I'm not going to speculate on her motives or rationale, but i'm pretty sure the criminal investigation isn't going to be very fruitful unless one of these dudes incriminates themselves.

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80. "Sigh. Finally got caught up on this and it's really bad"
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Like somebody said above, Rose's testimony is revealing and awful.

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81. "New Deposition Clouds Derrick Rose's Trial — And His Image"
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http://fansided.com/2016/09/16/derrick-roses-gang-rape/

NEW DEPOSITION CLOUDS DERRICK ROSE'S TRIAL — AND HIS IMAGE

With the civil trial set to begin next month, one thing is clear: Rose should’ve settled long ago.

by Julie DiCaro

If you didn’t know Knicks guard Derrick Rose is being sued for $21 million for allegedly gang raping his ex-girlfriend, you aren’t alone.

Though the civil lawsuit alleging Rose and two friends sexually assaulted a woman Rose dated has been public for a year, it’s only garnered media attention in the last few days, after ThinkProgress’ Lindsay Gibbs outlined the allegations against the former NBA MVP. As bits of evidence and deposition testimony have leaked out, NBA fans have been shocked by claims that Rose routinely pressured his ex to engage in group sex with his friends, charges Rose freely admitted when questioned by the plaintiff’s attorneys.

The allegations made by plaintiff Jane Doe aren’t pretty. Over at The White Bronco, Dan Werly has put together a great trial primer, laying out both sides of the case and including (at least in part) many of the pleadings filed in this case, as well as the evidence each side is expected to introduce at trial. It’s worth noting that Doe is being allowed to proceed anonymously over the objections of Rose’s camp, who have sought repeatedly to use her name.

As of right now, there is no criminal case pending against Rose; all that’s on the line for him in this case is money — and his reputation. Yesterday, several journalists took part in a conference call with Doe, her attorneys, and Katherine Redmond Brown of the National Coalition Against Violent Athletes. For over 90 minutes, Doe and her team took questions from the media regarding the facts alleged in the complaint, her motivation for coming forward, and what she hopes to gain from the lawsuit. And while it’s far from clear who will ultimately prevail before a jury, there is one matter many in the legal community agree on: Derrick Rose’s attorneys should have settled this case long ago.

Back when I practiced law, one of my mantras to my clients was this: “Sometimes, all an attorney can do is limit what’s about to happen to you.”

Granted, that’s not exactly what a guy wants to hear when he’s sitting in a jail cell protesting his innocence, but it’s the cold, hard truth about the legal system and the limits of what attorneys can accomplish. Plea bargains and civil settlements are often not about right or wrong, guilt or innocence, liability or immunity. Rather, they’re about limiting the damage to both parties before it spirals out of control.

In this case, it’s hard to overstate the damage to Rose’s reputation, whether the allegations are true or false. In Chicago, Rose has always been viewed as a shy, wholesome kid who worked his way out of one of the most violent neighborhoods in the city and elevated himself to become a global superstar. But a string of salacious texts between Rose and Doe, encouraging her to engage in group sex with Rose’s friends, have more or less eviscerated that image.

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2016/09/capturerose5.jpg

The pleadings also made public texts from Rose to Doe on the night of the alleged assault:

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2016/09/CaptureRose4.jpg

Of course, nothing in these texts is illegal or even immoral, as long as consenting adults are involved. But the portrayal of Rose as constantly badgering Doe for group sex is probably one the NBA, the Knicks, and the companies Rose endorses could do without.

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2016/09/CaptureRose6.jpg

Keep in mind, these texts and deposition answers became public only as a result of the ongoing civil case. It’s difficult to understand why Rose’s attorneys didn’t take steps to dispose of the case quietly and as quickly as possible. Civil settlements are often made without an admission of liability, meaning Rose could have reached an agreement with Doe without admitting any wrongdoing.

More importantly, a quick settlement could have prevented the release of evidence that flies in the face of the image Rose has spent years cultivating. Whether Rose will be able to survive the damage done to his reputation, particularly now that the national media has taken notice of the case, remains to be seen.

More disturbing still, the statute of limitations on criminal sexual assault has not yet run in this case, meaning Rose could still be criminally charged with rape. Yet Rose’s attorneys allowed him to sit for a deposition and answer questions that speak directly to his guilt or innocence. Specifically, Rose admitted he couldn’t define “consent” as it pertains to sex:

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Rose’s deposition answers only get worse from there, particularly when asked if he had any reason to believe Doe was willing to have sex with him and two co-defendants:

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2016/09/Captureose8.jpg

Whether a jury believes Doe consented to group sex with Rose and his friends will likely determine whether Rose or Doe will prevail in the lawsuit. In fact, it’s the only issue that matters, as Rose has never denied orchestrating sex with Doe and his two companions. And it becomes much more difficult to argue that Doe actually consented on the evening in question when Rose can’t define what consent is, or why he believed Doe had given it.

Complicating matters further, it turns out Doe had filed a police report with the Los Angeles Police Department regarding the incident. To date, the LAPD has declined to file charges, but that could change any time before the statute of limitations — six years for sexual assault in California — runs out. If criminal charges are filed, anything Rose said in the course of the civil case, particularly in his deposition and trial testimony, can be used against him.

For this reason, attorneys usually instruct clients to invoke their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination if there’s even the slightest chance of a criminal case being opened. Unfortunately, Rose’s testimony — that he doesn’t know what consent is — could be exactly what L.A. County needs to file criminal charges. Moreover, if the NBA decides to investigate Rose for possible discipline, the league can now access a treasure trove of evidence regarding Rose’s behavior off the court.

Rose’s attorneys may be able to win at trial. What they can likely no longer do, however, is limit the consequences Rose potentially faces. Already, the text messages between Rose and Doe, as well as Rose’s inability to explain why his actions don’t constitute sexual assault, have started making the rounds on the internet. Rose is currently listed at number 28 on Forbes‘ list of highest-paid athletes. The companies Rose endorses — Adidas, Powerade, and Giordano’s — have yet to comment on the lawsuit, but it’s difficult to image they want their brands associated with claims of pressuring a reluctant woman into group sex, much less allegations of gang rape.

If criminal charges are even filed against Rose, his attorneys will be hard pressed to explain why they allowed this lawsuit to proceed to the point of taking testimony at depositions.

In Chicago, many fans have long believed Rose was prone to heeding bad advice from his inner circle. Surrounded by a bubble of family members and friends, the narrative during Rose’s time with the Bulls was that he lives in an alternate reality, failing to understand how his constant missteps with the press affect his relationship with the fans.

There is no more important interview than the one Derrick Rose will give on the witness stand on October 4, the day the trial on Doe’s allegations is set to begin. It’s high time Rose got some good advice. His attorneys could start by settling this case.

  

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82. "No More Parties in LA (c) DRose"
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Complicating matters further, it turns out Doe had filed a police report with the Los Angeles Police Department regarding the incident. To date, the LAPD has declined to file charges, but that could change any time before the statute of limitations — six years for sexual assault in California — runs out. If criminal charges are filed, anything Rose said in the course of the civil case, particularly in his deposition and trial testimony, can be used against him.

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83. "media blitz was a dumb move."
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Rose attorney sounds like a piece of crap tho.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2016/09/21/derrick-rose-accuser-to-be-stripped-of-anonymity-at-trial/90771618/

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A woman accusing NBA star Derrick Rose of rape cannot remain anonymous at her upcoming civil trial, a Los Angeles judge ruled.

Lawyers for the woman, who is identified in court documents as Jane Doe, argued that her privacy should be protected because she is vulnerable and she has already been harassed after her name was leaked.

U.S. District Judge Michael W. Fitzgerald said Tuesday that the law was very clear on the issue and he wouldn't close his courtroom to protect her identity. He said any decision by the news media about whether to name her is a journalistic decision.

The Associated Press typically does not identify alleged victims of sexual abuse.

The woman sued Rose last year, claiming the former MVP and two of his friends raped her in August 2013 while she was incapacitated after a night of drinking. Rose and the others deny her claims and contend they had consensual sex with her that night.

The 30-year-old college student told the AP that her family knew nothing about her involvement with Rose or the lawsuit seeking $21.5 million and she wanted to keep it that way and avoid the spotlight.

But Rose's lawyer wanted her name made public and cited interviews and a news teleconference she conducted as Jane Doe last week as a reason to use her real name.

Rose, 27, is one of the NBA's most prominent, but injury-prone, stars.

He played his first seven seasons in Chicago, winning Rookie of the Year and, in 2011, MVP honors. He is in his first season with the New York Knicks after being traded in the final year of a five-year deal with Chicago that will pay him $21.3 million.

Rose and the woman dated non-exclusively for nearly two years before the alleged rape.

Lawyers for the woman said outside court that they were disappointed she'd lose her anonymity at trial.

Attorney Waukeen McCoy said it was just another way the defense has tried to pressure her to drop the lawsuit, including an attempt to depose her parents.

It's not unheard of for a plaintiff to be granted anonymity in a sensitive matter, said attorney Doug Mirell, who is not involved in the case.

There are plenty of examples in civil and criminal law where parties or witnesses have been granted anonymity, such as the plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, witnesses in mob trials or third parties who were sexual assault victims.

It's also likely for that protection to later be challenged. In the Rose case, it wasn't as clear cut that the accuser needed to remain nameless.

"I think the finger, if not the hand, is on the side of the scale that says identify," Mirell said.

Soon after Fitzgerald ruled on the issue of the woman's identity, Rose's attorney, Mark Baute, revealed the woman's name and was warned by the judge that she would remain anonymous until trial. He had her name struck from the record.

When Baute said her name a second time, Fitzgerald issued a stern rebuke and ordered him to write an explanation of why he shouldn't be sanctioned $1,000.

"Do not test my patience," Fitzgerald said.

Baute said it was an accident.

Interest in the case has grown as the Oct. 4 trial nears, especially in light of several high-profile cases of women who say they were raped while incapacitated.

The six-month jail term for ex-Stanford swimmer Brock Turner for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman sparked a public outcry over the punishment. Bill Cosby is fighting allegations by dozens of women who say he drugged and sexually abused them.

Former NFL All-Pro safety Darren Sharper was sentenced to more than 18 years in federal prison in August after he pleaded no contest to charges he drugged and raped women in four states.

There have been no criminal charges in Rose's case. The woman went to Los Angeles police two years after the incident and so far no evidence has been forwarded to the district attorney's office for review and possible prosecution.

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84. "Anyone know if derrick is in LA or Houston?"
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today his birthday too?? smh.

Doe does not want this to go to trial, I wonder how much rose camp is offering her if anything.

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85. "ah, houston today LA tomorrow."
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86. "Drose looking like morgan freeman in a time to kill."
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This a jury of my peers?

>http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/derrick-rose-lawyers-protest-race-jurors-rape-trial-article-1.2817514

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87. "did you mean to say Sam Jackson? because Morgan Freeman wasn't in that"
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>This a jury of my peers?
>
>>http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/derrick-rose-lawyers-protest-race-jurors-rape-trial-article-1.2817514

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89. "goddddamit..hopee samueel l donn't lurk"
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90. "he's gonna come in on you like this:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdxMkQhq58g

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91. "i don't even need to click...its the news anchor scene"
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92. "haha, yup n/m"
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www.somethinginthewudder.com

https://twitter.com/nostrabombus

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103. "c'mon, they all look alike..."
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88. "remember when Bulls Fans got insulted when DRose was compared to AI?"
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well allow me to remind them I informed all of them they should only hope to be so lucky...fast forward a few years and..."apology accepted, let's move on"(c)Doc

What a shitshow this guy's career and public persona has been ever since the media was giving him brownie points for not dancing and not being Bron in 2010.

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94. ""Is she gonna cry the entire time?""
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Did Rose hire the Ayn Rand guy from Dirty Dancing to be his chief counsel?

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96. "wait dude said that...in front of the jury????"
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yikes...the defense is saying its a straight money grab, nothing more/nothing less so they are attacking relentlessly. For d rose sake, i hope she lying.

not sure how that's gonna go over with a jury that's 75% female and mostly hispanic/white

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97. "A true jury of his peers lol"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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98. "RE: "Is she gonna cry the entire time?""
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>Did Rose hire the Ayn Rand guy from Dirty Dancing to be his
>chief counsel?

LOL. It's unbelievable how horrible and archaic his legal team is.

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101. "#actually it wasnt even rose's lawyer that said that"
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is he paying for everyone's lawyer tho, idk

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105. "lawyer for his codees"
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104. "I blame Reggie Rose...:"
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"With Derrick, I knew his buddies in high school would still be his friends," said his older brother Reggie Rose, who is also Rose's manager. "His peers are his peers. The only people I was worried about was older guys. He's 22. There shouldn't be a 40-year-old man hanging out with a 22-year-old. I build a shield with those guys. If you're over 30, you shouldn't have anything in common with him unless you want something from him."
http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago/high-school/post/_/id/1111/bulls-rose-stays-close-to-his-roots

Maybe if he had 1 old head in the crew they might have said "wait guys, this might not be a good idea!"

  

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106. "Judge seriously considering mistrial due to plaintiff shenanigans"
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Plaintiff and possibly attorneys withheld 3 incriminating text message from accuser to Rose one asking why rose didn't have sex with a friend she brought for him the day of the (prior to)alleged rape and another one asking Rose to deposit money in her bank account the day of (after)the incident.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/judge-derrick-rose-rape-case-mistrial-article-1.2826896


In any event Rose' side of the story seems very believable if not more. The victim's side seems believable too...it probably will depend on who the jury relates to more or who came across more believable in court. Even if he is held liable by the jury, I don't think he's gonna suffer too much in the eye of the public. Drose testimony alone presents alot to give the alleged victim the side eye. Still a lot of trial left but we've heard from the 2 main figures.

I find it interesting that many folks that were fawning over the allegations and deposition snippets ain't really been posting since the actual trial started lol

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107. ""why u have me bring a bitch and u ain't fina fuck her""
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umm... yeesh.

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108. "2 sides to every story ya know?"
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one already played their hand through the media.

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109. "Yeah, I poked a lil fun at him but I still feel like it's a $$ issue"
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His account of things was a train and not a foursome. Also with her bringing a friend to Rose's place to smash and then him bringing his boys does look like a mutual "you have my friends, I have yours" situation.

The texts make her story look slippery. She might not have been all in for the group activity but sounds like she might be down for the 1 at a time.

She was expecting him to be a lil more generous and he prolly stiffed her = lawsuit.

But you are right...all the yuck, yuck slowed down now that some of the facts are surfacing.

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110. "its disgusting."
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>But you are right...all the yuck, yuck slowed down now that some of the facts are surfacing.

dudes were fawning over allegations man...taking 4 lines from a depo transcript like that proves something. Depo transcript talking bout 6 months ago but being presented like its talking about the night of the incident. And niggas ate it up...i'm disgusted man.

Like rose and his attorney couldn't have went to the media and held press conferences defending rose.

Even the stuff in reference to Nick Young...Rose ain't bring that up, that came up in a depo of the victim's former roommate. But that got thrown at Rose' feet. smh.

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114. "It really is...and they'll drag his name through the mud"
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over things that have SERIOUS repercussions but clamor for apologies to Bron because people doubted his ability to lead a team.

If the facts come out that ole girl is a money-grubbing-ex jumpoff, you think they gonna 'apologize to D-Rose'?

No.

It is disgusting.

Dude is into some 'extra' type sexual stuff. I'm sure a lot of people are. No reason to jump to conclusions due to that.

She claimed she wasn't into group sex...likely factual, BUT then she brought a homegirl for Rose to smash and balks when he brings homeboys? Something don't add up.

But I guess we'll see when the decision is levied.

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115. "damn, great point."
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>If the facts come out that ole girl is a money-grubbing-ex jumpoff, you think they gonna 'apologize to D-Rose'?


Without being there and knowing the facts, the response afterwards(prior to the trial) has been quite telling.

Rose' side has been pretty quiet, arguing various motions in the court...waiting for the case to go trial.

Doe's side has been engaged in public mudslinging, trying to embarrass rose into settling, while talking to the media all the while trying to remain anonymous(her right)

That was pretty telling for me personally which is why i've been strongly advocating people to stop going by the tidbits given to the media like its all the relevant information.

Its like when cops shoot and say the person had a gun. Well gee i guess that's all there is to it, huh?

smh

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144. "to quote one of my all-time favorites: "DLTI""
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"Irvin, met by camera crews as he left Cowboys Sports Cafe late Friday, told them to report the police announcement with the same fervor they reported the accusation.

"Rerun it, rewrite it, reprint it," Irvin said. "Just like you did, with the same intensity that you did--the same intensity. Don't lose the intensity. Don't lose the intensity."

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145. "yup...the media is whatever...they tryna get headlines"
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whats okp excuse?

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120. "none of this mean she wasn't raped...."
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>
>She claimed she wasn't into group sex...likely factual, BUT
>then she brought a homegirl for Rose to smash and balks when
>he brings homeboys? Something don't add up.

And what you described isn't group sex lol.

  

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123. "A) no one is arguing that she wasn't raped"
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just presenting the other side of the story since all we've had thus far is one.

B) he specifically said that "She claimed she wasn't into group sex...likely factual"

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125. "I understand that, but here's the thing about the law"
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You have to prove your case.

1) This is a civil trial...for Money
2) She didn't file this charge sooner to actually do damage to him immediately after the fact. I know the struggle victims have but 3yrs later? I dunno, seemed contrived. I mean, the statute in CA allows for her to press criminal charges given there were multiple accused but she skated on those (and a criminal trial wouldn't have had any bearing on her still going after the money, actually might have helped the civil case). And she says she told her roommate the next day that she was assaulted but never reported it? I can't call it but either she wanted to set the scene because she had a feeling he might drop her afterward or she was so traumatized she didn't feel strong enough to report it and go after him. The question then begs...why now and why ONLY for money.
3) She claims she wanted anonymity but then goes on a media tour to discuss things BEFORE the trial?
4) Leaking of 'segments' of the deposition...the ones that slant Rose's image but strengthen her case
5) Last minute (or withholding given what the defense team stated) submission of her damaging text messages (How you gonna have me bring a b*tch and you not fina f*ck her?)
6) And the 'slick' stance the prosecution took to proving that the accuser never agreed to group smashing. And the fact that Derrick agreed that she never agreed to it (honesty). But 1 at a time ain't group smashing and that's exactly what Rose said happened. So put 1 and 1 together. Rose prolly asked her to do the group thing, she said no but I tell you what, if you smash one of my friends, I'll let your friends smash and voila!


>
>>
>>She claimed she wasn't into group sex...likely factual, BUT
>>then she brought a homegirl for Rose to smash and balks when
>>he brings homeboys? Something don't add up.
>
>And what you described isn't group sex lol.

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127. "i hear what you're saying"
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And none of that means she wasn't raped. She could have had sex with 8 of his friends at one time, and that doesn't mean she wssn't raped.

I'm not saying I believe her. I've seen this play out far too many times. But I hate how whatever happened in the past is being thrown in, as if it has anything to do with what happened the night in question. Because honestly, it doesn't.

  

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128. "Who is doing this...what things from her past?"
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But I hate how whatever happened in the past is being thrown in, as if it has anything to do with what happened the night in question.

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132. "The defense lawyers. The strap on. The IG posts. "
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The textes she sent about him not fucking her friend. All that I consider the past.

We're not gonna agree on this so I'm gonna step out here.

  

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134. "wasn't the dildo from the night in question? As was the texts about"
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sex with her friend.

The IG posts were an argument in reference to her remaining anonymous not an argument in reference to rose's guilt/innocence.

And what about the stuff from rose's past that are being used in this case that don't necessarily have anything to do with that night (your argument not mine) ie the thirst videos request?

Seems like it should be a two-way street, which is all i been advocating for from jump.

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131. "You're technically right...but it's her word vs his"
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because she didn't act on it sooner. A rape kit the day after goes a looooooooooong way to prove her case.

without that, it's just him/them vs her. And no one's bringing up past stuff. The text they brought up of hers happened on the night in question. From what I've read, it leads to a mutual swap of friends and her having a bone to pick over $$$.

Now granted, alcohol is involved so consent could be in question but without a blood alcohol measure, no one can say if she wasn't showing signs of consent or not. If she was actively awake (which the new texts show she likely was) and indeed let them in (as the roommate didn't) there's some plausibility she let them have at it one at a time. I don't think she's going to win this case because her credibility has taken some major hits recently due to her repeatedly being caught in falsities.

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113. "Because I'm a total beta cuck, bro"
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111. "Did D Rose hire Mike Tyson's defense team?"
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The whole defense seems to be 'if it's late at night you know she's gotta put out'.

I can't speculate on guilt of innocence, cuz that's a fool's errand at this point, but dude should have just paid her and kept it moving if that was an option. This ain't a good look at all - even in his best case scenario he's fuckin gross.

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112. "What are you talking about?"
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Defense hasn't even presented their case yet. Lol

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117. "You legit didn't read a single thing about this case. "
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What an imbecile

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118. "Read plenty but keep w the name calling. Do you."
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There's no way this is a good look for Rose.

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119. "That goes without saying"
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Innocent or guilty, why would being accused of rape be 'a good look'?

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130. "It's not just the accusation, it's their testimony"
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It continues to make them look like shitbags and morons. Rose shoulda done the cost benefit analysis and made that payment.

They got a story and she got a story, and i have no idea which one plays better to the jury, right now.

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135. "lotta these in the nba"
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>shitbags

if he and his boys are completely innocent, he absolutely should not have settled this.

99% of the people in this world would be embarrassed if their sex lives were on full display for the world. The other 1% ain't get any.

Provided that he's done nothing illegal, he has nothing to be embarrassed about. I'd rather be known as the freak bamma than the dude that settled a rape case.

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137. "That's why you settle. So none of this shit is public."
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>I'd rather be known as the freak bamma than the dude that settled a rape case.

NDA like a muhfucker.


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138. "everyone knows the details about kobe case so that's a terrible example"
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lol

So every time someone wants to cry rape, while hiding behind rape shield laws, you open your checkbook????

Not to mention your boys not getting an opportunity to defend themselves either?

What a horrible precedent.

If the jury doesn't find him guilty Rose brand will be fine, provided he plays well. Come December, no one will be talking about him asking for fingering vids.

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140. "haha, i went back and deleted the Kobe example, cuz yeah. Too late!"
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you caught it, so touche.

Sucks for Adidas, though. They signed dude to a long extension. They're stuck with this dumb dumb for another 12 years or so. He's so dumb he don't even go first in the train they running on his groupie. His boy so dumb he testified he thought she liked him. Goddam morons.

I don't think her case looking that good. It's all he said, she said, and both sides have reason to bullshit. Both sides been caught in some inconsistencies. The key question of sobriety probably can't be answered, so they probably gonna walk and not have to pay.



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142. "haha got you...on the flip you can't really provide a good example"
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bc if there was one, we wouldn't know about it...so i get your point.

>The key question of sobriety probably can't be answered, so they probably gonna walk and not have to pay.

Right, all the evidence that might point to her favor
her burning her hand she was so drunk/out of it
any signs of forcible entry to the home/apt
any signs of force to her body
tox screen

are unavailable bc of her decisions.

Which is why the so called police investigation is a smokescreen. He said/she said with zero corroborating evidence, civil suit filed before police report AND texts the day after the encounter demanding money???

lol no prosecutor touching that.

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116. "Accuser texted rose 5x between 1:40am and 2:03 prior to incident"
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but apparently she only wanted to Netflix but no chill

http://nypost.com/2016/10/10/there-are-reasons-to-doubt-the-story-of-derrick-roses-accuser/

Before calling a single witness, Rose’s lawyers have already planted seeds of doubt in the accuser’s story.

During cross-examination, she admitted to lying at least six times during her deposition or in text messages to Rose.

She also sent Rose five texts that day in August 2013 between 1:40 a.m. and 2:03 a.m., inviting him to her apartment and saying things such as “I need u” and “want u here.”

When Rose’s lawyer asked the accuser what she and Rose were going to do, she responded — in what has been described by trial-watchers as perhaps the least believable testimony to date — “Watch a movie or just to sleep, communicate or talk.”

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121. "and?"
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122. "when doe's lawyers were on their media blitz, they forgot to mention"
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that.

Do with that info what you want...if it means nothing to you, it means nothing. *kanye shrug*

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124. "Detective found dead"
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-employee-dead-whittier-20161012-snap-story.html

A Los Angeles Police Department detective who was investigating rape allegations against NBA star Derrick Rose died after being found with a gunshot wound in a Whittier home Tuesday afternoon, authorities said.

The Los Angeles County Coroner’s department on Wednesday identified her as 44-year-old Nadine Hernandez.

LAPD sources who were not authorized to speak publicly about the case confirmed that Hernandez was one of two detectives assigned to the Rose case and that she was a detective in the department’s Robbery-Homicide Division Special Assault Section. She frequently was involved in high-profile sex crime cases, authorities said.

Whittier police received a call at 2:45 p.m. Tuesday reporting an attempted suicide in the 8400 block of Via Sierra Ramal, Whittier Lt. Steve Dean said.

Hernandez was taken to PIH Health Hospital in Whittier, where she died at 3:27 p.m., according to Dean and the coroner’s department.

It was unclear whether the death was a suicide or a homicide, Dean said.

“We’re investigating it,” he said.

LAPD investigators responded to the house Tuesday, but Whittier police are conducting the investigation, authorities said.

News of the LAPD’s investigation of Rose came to light as an attorney representing the woman in a civil case against Rose and other men made a last-ditch appeal to a judge to conceal her identity.

The woman’s attorney, Brandon Anand, filed a request, in light of the LAPD’s investigation, asking U.S. District Judge Michael Fitzgerald to reconsider a decision to have the woman identified during trial.

Anand included in his request a letter from Hernandez, whom he identified as the officer investigating the case. In it, Hernandez wrote that being able to offer anonymity to people who come forward to accuse others of rape is “an invaluable investigative aid to investigators.” She added that the LAPD would continue to guard the woman’s identity throughout its investigation.

  

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126. "Oh boy"
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133. "yeah, this shit just got real ellroy."
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141. "man, that ain't got nothing to do with nothing."
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she probably got a hundred active cases. lol

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143. "yes"
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>she probably got a hundred active cases

  

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129. "smh"
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shut up already, damn

  

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136. "judge rules against mistrial but will allow defense to recall doe"
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to question about the texts. Will also inform the jury that the texts were initially withheld. That's probably a better scenario than a mistrial imo.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-derrick-rose-rape-lawsuit-mistrial-20161012-snap-story.html

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139. "not a good look for the accuser and her attorneys"
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she better have a good story ready for when she's recalled to testify.

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146. "Rose not joining the team again til trial over"
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147. "damn, poo was watching fresh prince he wasn't interested in homegirl"
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shouldn't have been funny but i couldn't stop laughing.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-derrick-rose-rape-lawsuit-mistrial-20161012-snap-story.html
Derrick Rose co-defendant testifies in civil rape trial that sex was consensual

A dramatic day in the federal civil rape trial for NBA star Derrick Rose on Wednesday saw the player’s two friends give lurid testimony about having sex with the accuser, news that an LAPD detective investigating the allegations was dead and the judge deciding against halting the trial over the sudden appearance of texts the accuser traded with Rose the night of the alleged assault.

The testimony centered on the night the accuser and a friend visited the Beverly Hills home Rose had rented in summer 2013 and the hours after when she claims she was raped, while drugged and drunk, by all three men while incapacitated in her Los Angeles apartment.

Both of Rose’s childhood friends, Ryan Allen and Randall Hampton, whom he has since hired to work for him, denied the allegations and testified that all three had consensual sex with the plaintiff in Rose’s home and her apartment.

“I couldn’t wait to come in and testify,” Allen said from the stand. “She was well aware of everything that took place.”

The Times in most cases does not name alleged victims of sexual assault.

Allen and Hampton testified that once the plaintiff and her friend arrived at the rental home, the group went to the backyard and took two or three shots of tequila by a fire pit.

Hampton testified he had sex with the plaintiff by the cabana and at one point Rose joined in.

Allen told the jury that sometime during the evening he found the plaintiff’s friend trying to seduce Rose in his bedroom.

According to Allen, the friend had walked in and disrobed. Rose, he said, was lying on his bed ignoring her while watching the “Fresh Prince of Bel-Air” on television. Allen testified that he peeked his head in to check on Rose.

“Poo, you want her in here?” Allen said he asked Rose, calling him by his childhood nickname.

“No,” Rose replied without looking away from the TV, according to Allen.

Allen said he escorted the woman out and asked why she had come to the home, he said. She couldn’t answer and said that she’d only met the plaintiff, who brought her to the home, earlier that day on Facebook, he said.

“That’s when I thought there was a problem. I don’t think this is a good situation,” Allen testified.

With Rose’s permission, he said, he called a cab for the plaintiff and the other woman and asked them to leave.

As the women waited for the cab, Allen testified, he had sex with the plaintiff.

The plaintiff, a former girlfriend of Rose’s, claims she was slipped a date-rape drug at the home and had only flashes of memory of her journey back to her apartment after 11:45 p.m.

Attorneys representing Rose and the other two defendants introduced records of phone calls and texts Wednesday that showed her exchanging messages with Rose until after 2 a.m.

Rose appeared to want her to come back to Beverly Hills. Allen said the woman agreed the group could come over if Rose was included.

Hampton and Allen testified that when they arrived with Rose at the woman’s apartment north of USC and called her, she answered and walked them in.

The men have not been charged criminally. Los Angeles police officials have said they are continuing to investigate the incident, which the woman reported in 2015.

In a grim twist on Wednesday, authorities said one of the LAPD’s lead investigators on the case, Det. Nadine Hernandez, was found dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound at a home in Whittier. The Police Department said there was no indication that the death was connected to her work and that the inquiry into Rose — who plays for the New York Knicks — and his friends would continue.

The plaintiff looked shocked when news of the detective’s death was mentioned in court early Wednesday.

U.S. District Judge Michael W. Fitzgerald rebuked the plaintiff’s attorneys over claims that they withheld from the defense three text messages the woman sent to Rose around the time of the alleged assault.

One of the woman’s lawyers, Brandon Anand, told the judge that it was a simple mistake that the texts weren’t provided sooner.

“There was no attempt to keep anything hidden,” he said.

Rose’s lawyer, Mark Baute, had said he found the previously unseen texts Friday in documents the plaintiff’s side belatedly shared.

The three texts, he said, show that the woman willingly went along with a request from Rose that she and a friend come to his house for sex. In one of the messages, sent after the two women had left Rose’s house, the plaintiff reproached Rose for refusing to have sex with her friend after she went to the trouble of arranging the rendezvous.

The judge said that the messages “could be viewed as favorable to the defense” but that the failure was not serious enough to declare a mistrial. Fitzgerald said Rose’s lawyers could still question the plaintiff about them.

The 30-year-old woman previously testified in the trial that she passed out in her bed after leaving Rose’s rented home and awoke to find him and the other men in her room assaulting her. Her lawsuit seeks $21 million.

Rose, 28, denied the woman’s allegations, portraying her as the aggressor throughout the night. He testified she agreed to have the three men come to her apartment, let them in and willingly had sex with each of them in turn.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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148. "Accusers ex friend says sex was consensual...suit is ploy for cash"
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Ex-friend of woman suing Derrick Rose in rape trial says sex was consensual, accuser is scheming for money

A former friend of the woman suing Knicks’ star Derrick Rose and two of his pals for gang raping her told jurors Friday the accuser is a scheming liar.

Gabriela Chavez testified that the woman identified as Jane Doe told her the sex she had with the trio was consensual — and she “was scheming” to get Rose’s money.

The 30-year-old victim has claimed she awoke on Aug. 27, 2013, to Rose and two other men having intercourse with her in her bedroom.

Chavez said Doe invited her to Las Vegas in September 2013 and confided that she had sex with Rose and his two friends.

“She told me she had sex with all three of them, and she was upset that Derrick was OK with it,” Chavez said in a sworn statement.

Under cross-examination, Doe’s lawyer Waukeen McCoy suggested Chavez tried to get Doe to pay her for her testimony.

“She tried to get me on her team to get money,” Chavez said. “That's why I’m on the side of the truth right now.”

McCoy asked her again to admit that she asked for money.

“Is that the best you’re going to keep doing? Keep asking the same question,” she said testily.

Chavez gave her take on why Doe filed her lawsuit under a pseudonym.

“She lies to her family all the time,” she said. “They didn’t know the lifestyle she was living in Los Angeles and she wanted to keep it that way.”

She was later asked by Rose’s lawyer Mark Baute if Doe was a pathological liar.

“Definitely,” she said.

Later in the day, Rose's lawyers called Doe back to the stand to ask her about the so-called "missing" text messages, which were the subject of a mistrial motion because her lawyers did not turn them over to the defense.

The existence of the messages was known but Friday was the first time they were seen by the jury.

In one of the texts from Aug. 26, 2013, Doe writes Rose, "She was mad at me babe why u have me bring a b---- and u aint fina f--- her."

The last text was from 10:03 p.m. on Aug. 27, after the alleged rape, in which she asked Rose again about sending money and said, "I need to give some cash to Kendra."

Doe claimed the money didn't matter. She said she was using that as an excuse to hook Rose into a texting exchange because "he wasn't responding to anything else."

Judge Michael Fitzgerald denied the mistrial motion but told the jury that the texts were not turned over.

"Ms. Doe's legal team had an obligation at various stages pre-trial to provide the texts," Judge Michael Fitzgerald said. "There were three texts that were not produced."

Later in the testimony, he said simply, "the defense did not have them when they should have had them."

The jury was also shown for the first time several raunchy texts from Doe to Rose dating from June 20, 2013.

The texts were shown to refute her testimony that she didn't normally use vulgar language in her messages.

On one of the texts, she wrote, "Dam babe U making you p---- wet."

Another said, "I'm about to take a cold a-- shower with my vibrator smdh."

Doe insisted the texts were private messages between two people "in an intimate relationship." She said Rose sent her equally x-rated texts, saying he was "horny," and wanted video of her "coming."

As for the vibrator, Doe insisted she doesn't own one. "It was like a joke because we were texting like that. I was just responding, like, in a relationship."

Doe is due back on the stand Tuesday. Fitzgerald has a draft of the jury instructions the lawyers are supposed to review by Monday. He said he expects the trial to wrap up Tuesday.

Judge has draft of jury instructions that lawyers are supposed to review and finalize with court Monday.

Meanwhile, Rose is working out three hours a day at an undisclosed $5 million training facility during the trial, Baute said.

Baute wouldn't let Rose speak to reporters or characterize how he felt about the case at this point.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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149. "How come no one wants to talk about the facts of the case"
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Serious question?

The allegations got nearly 100 posts...the actual trial with evidence and witnesses that get crossed examined and direct testimony from the parties involved...nobody wants to talk about it.

Not even the clown that made this post has been back since the trial started. What gives folks?

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150. "seems like the media (and this board) aren't all that interested anymore"
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which is not surprising since the facts contradict their previous biased and uniformed assumptions. but when agendas rule the world, this is what you get.

  

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155. "yup, i bet if he's found liable there will be a whole lot of interest ag..."
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151. "Where we at right now with the Facts?"
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My stance has always been: D-Rose is too old and too rich to be running trains. And I hope he didn't rape anybody.

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152. "pretty much sums up the facts^^^"
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153. "I agree with this "
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Facts are there is no evidence whatsoever that she was raped besides what she has said and told some. Unfortunately, there's evidence from her very own mouth that casts doubt on her rape claims as well. Plus, she's been caught lying aND her and her defense withheld critial text messages

No way a prosecutor would attempt to take this case.

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162. "oh, he's running trains (on girls who like to have trains ran on them)"
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I agree with everyone else at the bottom of this post, Rose is a little dirtier after this case but he didn't commit any crime other than hanging around with some messy folks, both in his camp and in his tangents


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198. "***shrugs*** did I say Rose committed a crime?"
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223. "If he didn't commit a crime, why the fuck do you care? "
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Why the fuck do you care about how people like to
fuck in their private time and space?

  

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168. "You're too old to care about dicks that aren't yours. "
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>My stance has always been: D-Rose is too old and too rich to
>be running trains. And I hope he didn't rape anybody.

I can't imagine giving a fuck about how someone likes to
fuck

The woman is obviously a liar

Rose stood his ground and won

Good for him.


  

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199. "You can't write this ^^^^ as you swing from my dick. "
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225. "Seriously: why do you care how and who he fucks in his free time? "
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Especially if it ain't rape?


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266. "You really wanna act THIS stupid over this issue O.E.?"
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Nobody said I care about who he fucks. That might be how you feel.

Nobody said I care how he fucks.

The fact is, I now know some shit about Derrick Rose & that invoked a response.

That response: this nigga D-Rose is nasty.

You mad?

I don't know why my response will make you mad.

If by someway I found out you were letting chicks take shits on your chest, I can't un-know that, so I'm gonna react and say, "this nigga O.E. is on some wild shit".

***shrugs***

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268. "he just mad a FREAK BAMMA can't help that Stop-Snitchin King win"
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272. "It has to be that. I'm like why you care, what I screw my face up at?"
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154. "Tabloid culture "
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I know you obviously know that, but still tip my cap to you for calling it out

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156. "Parts of Depo from doe's former friend played in court"
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http://deadspin.com/derrick-roses-accuser-questioned-about-text-messages-on-1787901719

Her testimony was followed by selections of the video deposition of Keyana Lavergne, a former roommate and coworker of Doe’s who gave text messages between her and Doe to Baller Alert. One message from Doe read:

Ok lets keep it at 90 then thats 6 months. Lol and i can even pay the whole couch off around xmas my dad gives me money not presents for xmas every year. then u just give me payment and since we finally filed against derrick we soon will be will be returning his tv and ill get us a Plasma.

Lavergne, in her deposition, said she came forward because she thought what Doe was doing was “morally wrong.” She said, “I have texts of her trying to use the situation for her gain.” She added that Doe “didn’t seem battered” or “off” at work the day after the alleged rape.

“I felt like if she felt like she had been raped, she would have told me,” Lavergne said.

The last person jurors heard from was a medical expert speaking on behalf of Doe about the PTSD she suffered afterward. Later in the afternoon, lawyers for both sides will present their closing arguments.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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157. "So roommate testified against her, friend testified against her"
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Texts incriminate her, her whole stance about all of this and her reputation has been shattered.


Soooooo...let me get this straight, I made a posts, hypothetically about D-Rose hurting his knee to drive home how rapidly that might be healed in the future and it was "in poor taste" and condemned by the masses here...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2527889&mesg_id=2527889&listing_type=search#2527910

But it's cool to call a dude a disgusting rapist without all the facts and not be admonished for it?

I think we need an apology post for the freak bamma.

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158. "kee keeing about rape allegations without facts is definitely way "
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worse.

Her lies, incriminating texts, and friends testifying against her are a bad look. Of course the all white jury could still sympathize with her versus a young rich black athlete. I'm sure they'd rather be wrong and give her Rose's money than be wrong and let them 'get away with it'. The defense played up the race issue in closing which i think was a bad idea from the way it was presented in the articles i read.

I think the biggest thing Doe's attorneys counted on was Rose and possibly his boys coming off as lacking credibility on the stand bc of the sensitive nature of the topics being discussed. But from all accounts, they seemed eager and comfortable to tell their side of the story and clear their name. They had small inconsistencies in their testimonies between each other but didn't waver on major details or consent. If they agreed on every small detail that obviously would point to overcoaching and attempting to get their story straight.

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159. "When people in your circle testify against you, it's lights out"
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AND they are presenting evidence. That text doesn't sound like a rape victim, it sounds like someone counting their money from an expected settlement because they figure they gonna win some money.

You supposedly were raped but you're plotting on Plasma TV's?

I don't buy it. At all now that both sides have come out.

-Rose a freak bamma? Check
-Rose sharing p*ss? Check
-Rose and his boys group raping a chick? I can't see it.

Like, the prosecution couldn't dig up ONE woman to call out Rose on past behavior that might show a pattern and further incriminate him?

Cosby and Trump get accusations, people come out the woodworks. This Rose accusation has been in the media for a year. No one else was violated by dude? Willing to testify to help her?

With everything presented, my verdict is not guilty/liable and I'm thinking it'll be the same in court.

She's not credible and has shown herself to be a liar. Rose told the TRUTH about her not agreeing to group smashing. Even at the risk of looking bad.

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160. "good point."
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> Rose told the TRUTH about her not agreeing to group smashing. Even at the risk of looking bad.

yeah, one of her friends called her a pathological liar and said she only wanted to remain jane doe bc her family didn't know the life she was living in LA smh.

Also interesting was that doe's atty didn't discuss the $ amount in his closing. I guess that was a smart move. After all the testimony from friends + text evidence that she was looking for a payday, it would be pretty foolish to stand there and say she deserves 20+million dollars. If the jury thinks he's liable, let them come back to that number on their own.

I think that goes to show where doe's attorneys are at on the case. if they felt they proved their case, I think they would have spent some time on the monetary damages

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161. "i don't know about ya'll but i stopped believing her when she was"
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talking about upgrading to a plasma.


What the hell she had before?

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163. "Derrick Rose rape case may boil down to definition of consent - CBS News"
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Since this incident took place in California, which has consent laws which allow for a more fluid definition of consent, Rose may have a higher threshold to overcome to prove the encounter was truly consentual.

I don't know. There have been some missteps and veiled attempts at deception by the plaintiff and her legal team, but since the bar for judgment is lower for a civil case, it wouldn't be surprising if a judgment, although less than 21M, is awarded to the plaintiff.

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By/ Crimesider Staff/ AP/ October 18, 2016, 10:42 AM

Derrick Rose rape case may boil down to definition of consent

LOS ANGELES -- Months before Derrick Rose took the stand to defend himself in thelawsuit claiming he and two buddies gang raped an ex-girlfriend while she was intoxicated, the NBA star was asked if he understood the word consent.

“No. But can you tell me?” he asked at a deposition in June.

Rose came to court last week with a much better grasp of the word that is central to the $21 million civil case, though his interpretation of the concept could still prove costly.

No one disputes Rose and his childhood friends had sex with the woman in her apartment Aug. 27, 2013. The question is whether she consented - as the men claim - or whether she was too incapacitated to do so - as the woman says.

There is no commonly accepted definition for consent, which is at the heart of a “patchwork quilt” of evolving laws on rape and sexual assault that in some cases require an affirmative agreement before sex, attorney Rebecca O’Connor said.

“It is murky and I think that’s where we’re seeing a lot states try to clear the weeds, if you will, and take this on and make it clear,” said O’Connor, a vice president at the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network. “It’s so complicated we can never just say it’s black and white.”

Rape was once defined as intercourse with force against a woman’s will, said Matt Lyon, a law professor at Lincoln Memorial University. Reform efforts in some states led to rape being defined more by the non-consent of the victim than a use of force by the perpetrator. States such as California have gone steps further in deciding consent can be withdrawn during sex and that a victim can be too incapacitated to agree to the act.

“One of the big criticisms against the modernization is the ‘he said, she said,’” Lyon said. “It’s so easy when it’s clear there was force used, but here the woman may say it was rape though there’s no physical evidence of force or that it was done against her will.”

That is the situation in the Rose case, where the woman said she blacked out and felt drugged after a night of drinking and hanging out at Rose’s Beverly Hills mansion. With no physical evidence, the case hinges as much on her credibility as that of the three men.

The woman said she went home from Rose’s, vomited, and woke up around 3 a.m. to find Rose, Ryan Allen and Randall Hampton having sex with her against her will.

Rose may have been tripped up by the word consent in his videotaped deposition, but he tried to recover at trial by defining it as both parties being in agreement. He also connected dots he felt outlined consent, including the woman’s racy texts that started 17 hours earlier saying he made her “horny.”

“Maybe she sent suggestive texts or emails, but that doesn’t prove she consented to it at the time,” said Evan Lee, a law professor at the University of California, Hastings College of Law. “A woman may be willing to have sex 23 hours in the day, but if he has sex in that 24th hour when she’s not willing, then that’s rape if he knows she doesn’t want to.”

Rose assumed consent based on their sexual history, the fact she had never denied him and because of sex acts she initiated with him and his friends at the Beverly Hills house earlier in the night, he testified. He and his friends all said the woman seemed sober and she willingly participated in sex.

The Associated Press is not naming her because it generally does not identify people who say they are victims of sexual assault.

The topic of consent and whether someone is too incapacitated to agree to sex have been part of a national discussion after allegations that Bill Cosby drugged and molested dozens of women over decades and after outrage over a six-month sentence for ex-Stanford swimmer Brock Turner, who sexually assaulted a passed-out woman.

The topic has even crossed into the presidential campaign with a recording surfacing of Republican candidate Donald Trump bragging about grabbing women’s genitalia and several women accusing him of groping them.

“People are starting to recognize that even if they didn’t fit whatever mythological circumstance people think needs to happen in order for it to be rape or sexual assault, that there is in fact that gray area where it’s still nonconsensual,” O’Connor said. “Even if you wore a skirt or you didn’t outwardly force someone off you, this may legally fall into the realm of sexual assault.”

  

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164. "Not Guilty."
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Cleared of all "charges"

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165. "I'll forever be a fan of drose for taking this to trial"
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And not simply cutting a check as many have suggested

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167. "there aren't many people that could give less shits abt what others thin..."
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about them.

all the dirty laundry aired out.

all the ridicule and hate.

all the popularity diminishing.

and all that adidas money fucked up.

dude was not letting that women get his money for (apparently) a crime he did not commit.

  

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177. "What about anything he said makes you a fan of his?"
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Like, I get this is a big day for you for whatever reason, and I do understand being relieved (as a Knicks fan) that he's not going to be suspended.

But this doesn't make anything he said in the deposition actually go away.

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178. "have you read his deposition in full?"
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What did he say that needs to go away?

I dont' about him being a knick or not or whether he got suspended or not. That's like so small on the scale of important things. If he raped the girl and went through all of this to not pay her, he's a special piece of crap.

That being said all i've been doing from the beginning of this case was telling people to wait until he's had an opportunity to defend himself before jumping to conclusions based off of allegations, court filings and media interviews from the accuser and her attorneys. Many folks ain't want to do that.

Even as the evidence and testimony came out, I told people to draw their own conclusions...i just wanted the other side out there.

And in case you missed it, i'm a fan now bc he appears to have been wrongly accused and instead of simply writing a check so that this would 'go away' as many encouraged him to do, he fought it and great embarrassment to himself and allowed him to clear him and his boys names.

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189. "*Shrug* if you realy want to stick up for the shit from"
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post #81, go ahead.

There's nothing surprising about a famous dude skating on a case like this. But I honestly don't see what there is to party over (which I'm not saying you're even doing in this post.)

Like at the very least, this is a guy who has serious trouble understanding what consent is and isn't. Maybe this will cause him to examine things like this closer, but I doubt it.

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191. "Again have you read his deposition in full?"
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Have you been following the evidence in the case...reading the daily recaps?

Bc for you to say something like this

>There's nothing surprising about a famous dude skating on a case like this.

Without knowing specific details of the trial, or evidence that was withheld from the trial that would've painted Rose in a bad light, you aren't really saying anything.

What from post 81 would you like me to address/defend?

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166. "Don't forget, this same woman settled out of court with Sean Kingston ye..."
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this same woman settled out of court with Sean Kingston years ago.

This is the real reason they wanted her name out there.

  

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169. "there was a rumor before the trial started "
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girl is apparently well known in athlete and entertainer circles.

not a smart move by derrick for fucking with her.

  

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170. "If her identity was protected"
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how do you know this is true?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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172. "It's not the same girl but doe's identity been out there for"
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A while.

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171. "That's not the same person."
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173. "Guilty.. Not guilty I don't care. I read the depositions. Dude is a sic..."
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>D. "Carlos Danger" Rose out here off that Tony Weiner:
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>https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL/status/770711022109949952/photo/1
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>Boy I remember when everyone on this board lauded Rose as the
>"quiet, throwback hard-nosed 90's" type who was going to be
>the next NBA 'savior', failing to realize that Walking Mt.
>Rushmore was right there anomalously dominating on the court,
>and exemplifying remarkable manhood off the court.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey6cpTY10UU
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>Have you apologized to Lebron James yet?
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175. "What depositions have you read?"
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180. "My bad... The court docs/testimonies or whatever "
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I didn't say he was a rapist

Just a sick weirdo

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184. "oh ok, cool..he a freak bamma. (c) ba"
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174. "Have you apologized to Derrick Rose yet?"
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176. "probably needs it own post. Lotta dudes need to ask for forgiveness."
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179. "Anybody claiming they knew it was rape, is weird"
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i mean, he came off grimey and dumb, but there's really not a ton of actual evidence to suggest one way or the other. It's all about testimony and credibility.

Once the witheld texts came out things really went down hill for the plaintiff. Then having two former friends roll through, saying yeah she's on some bullshit, sort of sealed the deal.

In the end i don't feel like they ran a train on a passed out woman or anything, so i guess this turned out ok.


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181. "people read the lawsuit, snippets from a depo released by the accuser"
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's atty, text messages from Rose and interviews from the accuser and decided they had enough info to make an informed decision smh.

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204. "dudes up and vanished out this post like:"
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https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Ztfn3m8Glmx4plm/giphy.gif

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182. "RE: Have you apologized to Derrick Rose yet?"
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https://twitter.com/joelrubin/status/788850013459795968

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183. "just saw that..."
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186. "lol that's actually pretty common."
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190. "It is?"
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How come that one lady who vandalized the lion-killing dentist's office didn't want a picture with us after her trial?

(She wasn't on trial for that, it was over something else.)

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192. "jurors have the ability to talk to lawyers, defendants, victims, their f..."
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families, etc after a trial.

No surprise that they would do it with a celebrity involved.

http://www.foxsports.com/other/story/the-latest-jurors-hug-andrews-get-autograph-after-verdict-030716

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193. ""Best wishes, cept when the Knicks play Lakers, heh heh" - Judge"
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https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/788853671408918529

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185. "https://twitter.com/joelrubin/status/788850013459795968"
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https://twitter.com/joelrubin/status/788850013459795968

In case I'm not clear, that would be a no,

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187. "female jurors prolly wanna know whats good."
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188. "not a great look. but he aint really care about optics since day 1"
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can i just start booing him for being a Knick already?

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246. "so you're still cool with impugning him as a rapist?"
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282. "Joe Paterno rule. I don't know shit about shit, and neither do you"
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here's what we know:

1. almost all incidents of reported sexual assault are true.

2. there is a fair amount of evidence that, while not conclusive, could lead a reasonable, non biased person to believe that this case may be one of the extremely rare exceptions.

the key phrase in number 2 is "may." yeah, there's a decent chance he didn't do it, but let's not pretend we found a smoking gun here. I find myself exactly where I was at the start of this case: not knowing.

so, no, I'm not going to treat Rose as a rapist. as far as these things go, i'm pretty ok with anyone who wants to move on and pretend this never happened. What I'm not cool with is people acting like Derrick Rose conclusively won something here or throwing it back in people's face that, zomg, you chose to believe a potential sexual assault victim.

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285. "your stance is fine. But people called him a rapist and other disgusting..."
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things and then disappeared once the facts of the case came out.

That's a huuuuuuuge problem shells.


The only reason this post has some many posts bc of the stance that people took in the 1st place and then decided not to care when the facts were revealed...when all i said from day 1 is slow down this is just one side of the story...lets at least give rose an opportunity to defend himself.

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303. "exact: "
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>so, no, I'm not going to treat Rose as a rapist. as far as
>these things go, i'm pretty ok with anyone who wants to move
>on and pretend this never happened. What I'm not cool with is
>people acting like Derrick Rose conclusively won something
>here or throwing it back in people's face that, zomg, you
>chose to believe a potential sexual assault victim.

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309. "You used a rape case to promote a basketball agenda."
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Have you apologized to Derrick Rose yet?

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304. "If you don't know shit about shit whats the purpose of posting that pic?"
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>1. almost all incidents of reported sexual assault are true.

that is meaningful in the aggregate in regards to the larger issue as a societal problem. however, it doesn't really mean anything in regards to the specifics of this particular case.


>2. there is a fair amount of evidence that, while not
>conclusive, could lead a reasonable, non biased person to
>believe that this case may be one of the extremely rare
>exceptions.
>
>the key phrase in number 2 is "may." yeah, there's a decent
>chance he didn't do it, but let's not pretend we found a
>smoking gun here. I find myself exactly where I was at the
>start of this case: not knowing.
>
>so, no, I'm not going to treat Rose as a rapist. as far as
>these things go, i'm pretty ok with anyone who wants to move
>on and pretend this never happened. What I'm not cool with is
>people acting like Derrick Rose conclusively won something
>here or throwing it back in people's face that, zomg, you
>chose to believe a potential sexual assault victim.

You are treating Rose like there is a still a pretty reasonable suspicion that he is a rapist. while the case doesn't conclusively prove 100% that a rape did not occur, there is far less conclusive evidence to suggest that it did. If you want to feel some kind of way about Rose that's perfectly fine. What's not cool is people acting like there was nothing wrong with concluding that he was a rapist before all the facts of the case were known or saying that Rose being found not liable in the case is win for rape culture. And certainly not people using details from a deposition in a rape case as fodder for a basketball agenda.

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194. "A lot of these despicable dudes need to and I've lost some "
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respect for those that don't.

You read some slanted, partial testimony and just DECLARE someone a rapist?

Then ole girls friends come thru and prove she "ain't messing with no broke n*ggas" and they ghost.

DISGRACEFUL!!!

I don't care if dude likes full on orgies, swaps, swinging, gangbangs, does the Y-toosie, butterfly and footwork while running a spit roast 3 some with his closest homey...the facts say he isn't a rapist.

ALL you a**holes need to apologize. KEEP THE SAME INTENSITY!!

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Cenario
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195. "Right plus they getting on rose and his legal team for slut shaming"
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and stomping on victim's rights where it certainly appears that this woman did more damage to future rape victims than rose and his attorney's did.

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196. "as someone who worked for an accused rapist and saw the toll it took"
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on him and his family and his work (he was also famous), I appreciate anyone who takes a moment to wait for the facts to come out. my dude didn't even go to trial, it was recanted by the accuser as a ruse for public affection before that happened. I can't imagine the hardship it puts on a person to actually have to answer questions about a thing you're damn sure isn't factual for days and days, especially concerning a date that was years prior to the current date.


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Cenario
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197. "Worst part about it is it makes it worse for future rape victims."
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Assuming she lied, (and all evidence points to that she did) she makes it that much harder for another victim to come forward...especially if its a high profile celebrity as the accused.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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200. "Thats true. "
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202. "basket of deplorables"
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Ryan M
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207. "I shouldn't have called him a rapist."
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I stand by the piece of shit part though.

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224. "So you are a sad, defamatory piece of shit? "
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>I stand by the piece of shit part though.

You called a man a "rapist"

That's a horrible, deplorable piece of shit thing
to do

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236. "This is what owning up to mistakes is."
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I wouldn't expect you to recognize something you yourself have never done.

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201. "Rape culture wins again. American justice system looks like a joke, AGAI..."
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takin flicks w/ the jurors and the judge crackin jokes?

gotdamn

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203. "She LIED, she's the one who is hurting victims"
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Not like this Promo.

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208. "i'm not making a judgement of guilt."
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that's not my point.

my point is that jurors (even female ones) snappin rapsquats with the defendant and the judge making jokes in his courtroom is rape culture winning again. like, just utter disregard for the plaintiff who may or may not have been telling the truth. that's some rape culture shit. how can the plaintiff feel like they were taken seriously when the judge is making hoop jokes and the people who are supposed to take their task seriously are getting celeb photos for the 'gram after the trial?

Let's assume you're right and she's a boldface liar and was trying to cake. Now, set that aside and look at it from a woman who REALLY got raped by a celeb (assuming this woman wasn't for the sake of argument) and you see the jurors flickin' with the defendant. Now, ask yourself do think that victim is lookin' at that thinking, "I think I can get justice against my attacker?"

after all that? it's a bad look for the justice system, period.

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Cenario
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210. "What if the reverse happened and rose was found liable "
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And the jurors were hugging and comforting the victims after the verdict while she thanked them. And the judge made a joke to the victim about being able to afford her schooling now. Would you be claiming that this was unfair to rose?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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PROMO
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211. "yes. judges/jurors shouldn't be doing shit. "
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judges should prep for their next case and jurors should go home or back to work.

why is this even a hypothetical? for fucks sake.

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Cenario
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214. "Because it happens every day in many cases after trials"
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It hasn't nothing to do with rape culture bc it happens in all types of cases.

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216. "i don't give a fuck my g."
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my point stands.

if you are a victim, an actual victim, and you see someone who may have raped someone take photos with jury members and the judge is making jokes with the defendant, what gives you hope that you're going to be taken seriously - that you're going to get justice?

that's exactly rape culture.

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Cenario
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217. "Maybe if that person followed the details of the case"
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Wed Oct-19-16 07:23 PM by Cenario

  

          

They would have have had the same conclusion the jury did.

And maybe they would be more upset with does lies than what the jury did after the verdict.

Does false rape accusations fit into rape culture at all?

I mean, maybe you'd have a different opinion if you'd been following the details of this case.

But that's the problem..people talking bout stuff with knowing the facts

Been the problem from the jump and the ONLY reason I've been posting about this case as much as I have.

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209. "Did it fail when the jurors got erin andrews autograph?"
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Or when the judge wished jane doe good luck with her studies before wishing rose good luck with his career?

Did the judge have some ruling in the case that showed partiality to rose? Please share.

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213. "keep doing 5-much."
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Cenario
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215. "Seems the other way around to me but whatevs"
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I've been following the case and I think justice was served.

Rose should be celebrating for being able to clear him and his friends names. He should be thankful to the jury as well.

The jury are regular peoplease after they render a verdict. They are free to do whatever the hell they want. If there is some evidence that their verdict was rendered partially, doe is free to appeal.

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220. "So apparently "Jane Doe" goes by the real name Monica los Rios?"
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sounds like a porn star...

  

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230. "Neat"
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Cenario
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222. "so Ab's post got deleted. if you want to admit you made a mistake"
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by jumping to conclusions about Drose, feel free to do so here.

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231. "They deleted my post?!?! lmao wow"
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Thu Oct-20-16 12:28 PM by auragin_boi

  

          

I guess I could see how it's not TOTALLY sports related but we've talked about fringe things here before...

or maybe a repeat of something in this post...

but they allowed the 'apologize to LeBron' post.

Hmm...not sure how I feel about this.

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Cenario
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232. "yeah it was kindof weird."
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it def deserved its own post.

Maybe you shoulda called it the october GD post idk

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226. "I'm tired of playing nice with you accusatory dickheads. "
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You dickheads hurt women and are destructive, awful
people. You don't HELP conquer rape culture. You BUILD
it.


You SELECTIVELY blame people without knowing shit.

If you accused without knowing the facts, fuck you,
and seriously.




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227. "Co-sign"
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Cenario
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228. "Promo had the nerve to make multiple posts about rape culture "
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and didn't even know the facts of the case. Asked after the fact for a run down of the things the accuser lied about. I broke some of it down...ain't heard from him sense.

Defending yourself and your boys against false accusations of rape with truth and honesty is NOT a part of rape culture.

Discuss.

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280. "i haven't responded because this thread and the rhetoric around is ugly...."
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and i like to think some of you aren't harboring some fucked up thoughts.

yes, i did not know all the facts of the case. AGAIN (how many times do i have to say AGAIN?), the fact that she lied does not mean she wasn't raped. the fact that Rose was found not liable does not mean he did not rape her. i never called Rose a rapist (for arguin-boi who wants everyone to apologize).

THAT FUCKING SAID, this shit is still rape culture