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"#gaininonus - Israel Gutierrez is (publicly) out, marrying some white gu..."


          

https://izzygutierrez.wordpress.com/2015/09/04/hello-world/

he wasn't out?

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i was 98% confirmed on dude just based on his look/speaking...
Sep 04th 2015
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damn stereotypes be winning
Sep 04th 2015
2
https://sebaspace.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/terrell_owens_01.jpg
Sep 05th 2015
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Good for him
Sep 04th 2015
3
i scolded myself before for assuming he was gay cuz of his eyebrows
Sep 04th 2015
4
like, bruhhhhhhhhh
Sep 04th 2015
5
Truth on vaca?
Sep 04th 2015
6
I saw it but I had no idea who he was, I thought he was some obscure...
Sep 04th 2015
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People knew, it just wasn't official
Sep 04th 2015
7
RE: People knew, it just wasn't official
Sep 05th 2015
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      LZ Granderson is the only dude I can think of
Sep 05th 2015
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      kevin arnovitz is gay, out, and dope at what he does.
Sep 06th 2015
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      i see granderson a fair amount, he publishes stuff still
Sep 07th 2015
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           and you don't have to see it as novel
Sep 07th 2015
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                but i'm not in here talkin about "WHY U MADE THIS POST THO HO?"
Sep 07th 2015
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                     chris broussard! I don't know why I couldn't remember that
Sep 07th 2015
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      LZ Granderson, Viv Bernstein, Kevin Arnovitz, Kate Fagan
Sep 07th 2015
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           I've never heard of Kevin Arnovitz before today and didn't recognize his
Sep 07th 2015
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                Bernstein and Fagan were notable beat writers
Sep 07th 2015
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who he play for again?
Sep 04th 2015
8
I know, right? There are plenty and some who are out.
Sep 04th 2015
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gay is regular..like blk, white whatever..UNLESS you a pro athlete
Sep 04th 2015
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      even there it is pretty regular
Sep 07th 2015
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you coulda scrolled on
Sep 05th 2015
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but..nah id rather call you out for posting some bullshit like u do othe...
Sep 07th 2015
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      except this isn't bullshit
Sep 07th 2015
21
Lol I thought he was a baseball player until I googled
Sep 07th 2015
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does being 'robin' automatically make you the bottom...
Sep 05th 2015
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batman always seemed to have real bottom tendencies but idk
Sep 05th 2015
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Good for him, hope they're happy
Sep 07th 2015
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who gives a fuck really?
Sep 07th 2015
27
I thought I was the petty champ
Sep 07th 2015
30
why u mad tho?
Sep 07th 2015
31
Does this change that he's REGULARLY the best ATH guest?
Sep 07th 2015
34

PROMO
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1. "i was 98% confirmed on dude just based on his look/speaking..."
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anyways, good for him.

always enjoy Izzy's work on ESPN (especially ATH).

  

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2. "damn stereotypes be winning"
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as far as ATH peeps (where i know dude from)
kate fagan was kind of obs
then israel
now i got pablo torre in queue

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14. "https://sebaspace.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/terrell_owens_01.jpg"
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https://sebaspace.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/terrell_owens_01.jpg

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3. "Good for him"
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And yeah, I kind of assumed he already was.

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4. "i scolded myself before for assuming he was gay cuz of his eyebrows"
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5. "like, bruhhhhhhhhh"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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6. "Truth on vaca?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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11. "I saw it but I had no idea who he was, I thought he was some obscure..."
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superlightweight boxer and the only people that would care would be Vex and O_E

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7. "People knew, it just wasn't official"
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To me in most high profile professions being gay is not a big deal and in most office settings now, too. I think it's still just a personal identity struggle and a family thing for most people. Even the moderate bigots are getting lots of "STFUs" now. Crazy how far it's come in ten years, maybe even less. I want to credit the internet and blah blah blah but the fact of the matter is that only helped the broader dynamic. All the attitudes toward homosexuality, marijuana, etc that are changing now are a result of something very basic but very powerful, and that is simply realizing that people you know and love are gay or smoke weed or whatever. It's not some boogeyman for xenophobes; these are your neighbors, co-workers, friends and relatives.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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12. "RE: People knew, it just wasn't official"
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I agree that being openly gay is in reality natural and as human as any other expression of love.

But in the historical sense it is a big deal. I personally can't think of any high-profile sports journalist that is open, mostly because until the last five to ten years it was a burden for the gay journalist and possibly a reason to be fired or forced out.

It's also noteworthy because he is Latino and there are fewer role models / professionals who are people of color and openly gay and his sharing of his sexuality probably makes other men and women struggling with their sexuality more comfortable.

Hopefully in the next ten years we'll hear stories about men and women coming out and think of it as normal.

  

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15. "LZ Granderson is the only dude I can think of"
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and he's not around that much, or at least not that I see.

y'all can keep saying it's not a big deal, and I hope it isn't.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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18. "kevin arnovitz is gay, out, and dope at what he does."
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26. "i see granderson a fair amount, he publishes stuff still"
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not sports-related but charles blow is a gay, and an increasingly prominent NYT columnist. obviously TV people like maddow and cooper. i just dont see being gay in the news media as anything all that novel.

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29. "and you don't have to see it as novel"
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but dude is on TV pretty much every day talking about sports

even if this were only for the glorious event of the next time he's in a multibox on ESPN w/ ...whatshisname I'm blanking

I'd still post it twice.

plus, I found reading his story personally interesting.

unless we're magically getting flooded with sports reporters outing themselves, we'll probably live with one post.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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32. "but i'm not in here talkin about "WHY U MADE THIS POST THO HO?""
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just making an observation and amplifying a little

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33. "chris broussard! I don't know why I couldn't remember that"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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24. "LZ Granderson, Viv Bernstein, Kevin Arnovitz, Kate Fagan"
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Robin Roberts and Harvey Levin, while not exclusively sports reporters, have reported on sports prominently.

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25. "I've never heard of Kevin Arnovitz before today and didn't recognize his"
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name at all, I thought I knew all the ESPN basketball guys

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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28. "Bernstein and Fagan were notable beat writers"
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Fagan did the Sixers beat for a while and Bernstein was a beat reporter for the Whalers, Red Wings and did a lot of NASCAR stuff for The NYT.

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8. "who he play for again? "
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like i gives a fk about a gay reporter ...this shit isnt postworthy

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9. "I know, right? There are plenty and some who are out."
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Not really a big deal.

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10. "gay is regular..like blk, white whatever..UNLESS you a pro athlete"
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then it gets interesting...might be a story

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22. "even there it is pretty regular"
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you get the odd reactionary but most guys know gay dudes in the league and DGAF. i remember i was talking to a couple guys on the bruins about it, one was really articulate and open about it, basically said dudes' personal lives are their own and he accepts every one of his teammates. he said he knew there was gay guys in the league and that it generally wasn't an issue (this guy is now the captain of another team). another one was weird about it and oddly ESPN featured him in a poll about that exact topic. i think his quote was "it would be weird because you'd like have to shower together and stuff." so enlightened lol.

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16. "you coulda scrolled on"
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but....

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20. "but..nah id rather call you out for posting some bullshit like u do othe..."
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thanks for the advice tho mr mod..you still cool

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21. "except this isn't bullshit"
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but thanks for admitting it's really just about me

I hope you have peace and happiness in your personal life

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23. "Lol I thought he was a baseball player until I googled "
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Agreed tho

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13. "does being 'robin' automatically make you the bottom..."
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Yes, this reply IS rooted in ignorance

Congrats to them both, and alladat.

Still, for shits and giggles, batmans the top, no?

  

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17. "batman always seemed to have real bottom tendencies but idk"
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19. "Good for him, hope they're happy"
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27. "who gives a fuck really?"
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If its not a big deal, why this long ass letter then?
Really, this attention whoring gots to stop.

Newsflash: n one cares where u stick ur dick, just keep it between u & ur homie

  

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30. "I thought I was the petty champ"
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but you just got mad at someone attention whoring, by writing a post about their personal life on their personal blog.


you have the crown sir

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31. "why u mad tho?"
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34. "Does this change that he's REGULARLY the best ATH guest?"
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No?

GREAT!!

Congrats.

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